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There is something wrong with democracy in France if the military tries to defend it

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Emmanuel Macron has received the third letter from the security forces in the past few weeks. First, a message to the French president was sent by retired military personnel, including representatives of the generals. Then active servicemen joined them. The third letter is addressed to Macron by retired officers and generals of the police and gendarmerie.


All the security officials in their messages to the head of state point to the need for urgent action so that France does not plunge into chaos. In particular, it was noted that France is more and more differentiated by nationality and confession. Newcomers try to live not according to French laws, but according to the principles to which they are accustomed in their countries. In a number of cities in France, real enclaves of resistance to local authorities are being created. Even armed police officers are afraid to look there.

The military and police, addressing the President of France, point out that freedom cannot exist without security.
Mikhail Leontyev speaks about this in the program "However". According to him, when the military stands up to defend democracy, it is clear that not everything is in order with this democracy.

At the moment, Emmanuel Macron actually did not react in any way to the letters that retired and active security officials send to him. And if there was a reaction from the Elysee Palace, it was more about attempts to present those who appeal to the president as opponents of the "democratic system" - those who "hatch plans for a coup d'etat."

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  1. Proton
    Proton 17 May 2021 13: 59
    +5
    Now on VO video with Leontyev will be uploaded?
    Survived ...
    1. credo
      credo 17 May 2021 14: 12
      +5
      Quote: Proton
      Now on VO video with Leontyev will be uploaded?
      Survived ...

      Whats wrong with that? In Russia, democracy, and as Peskov said to Chubais's statement about hatred of the USSR - "Has the right to express his opinion."
      1. Proton
        Proton 17 May 2021 14: 23
        +7
        I'm more than sure - pay this and similar "nightingales" 3 kopecks more and they will begin to find fault with anyone with the same mimic wrinkles, beautifully wrinkling their forehead and puffing out their cheeks.
        These are cassic speaking heads that have neither their own opinion, nor their own name, and even less conscience.
        1. credo
          credo 17 May 2021 14: 36
          +11
          Quote: Proton
          I'm more than sure - pay this and similar "nightingales" 3 kopecks more and they will begin to find fault with anyone with the same mimic wrinkles, beautifully wrinkling their forehead and puffing out their cheeks.
          These are cassic speaking heads that have neither their own opinion, nor their own name, and even less conscience.

          I disagree. Leontyev's programs are copyrighted, i.e. his own and his opinion has long been in line with state interests. So what.

          On the other hand, if someone does not like him, then you can always look at the passages of Nevzorov or Sobchak. The alternative is so-so, if for me, but someone is very happy about it.

          And then there is the newspaper Pravda, the mouthpiece of the Communist Party, with its own point of view on what is happening in the country and the world.

          So full pluralism. Read what you want.
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 17 May 2021 15: 14
            +4
            There is something wrong with democracy in France if the military tries to defend it
            The military and police, addressing the President of France, point out that freedom cannot exist without security.

            And what is so WRONG and WRONG that the French military wrote to their French President Macron in the 1st letterthat the Military Council under the leadership of the Chief of Staff of the French Armed Forces tolerast (from the word "tolerance") François Lecointre decided to dismiss the generals ?!

            Regarding politics.
            The military and the armed forces of the country should not be indifferent to which France they defend. Homeland as a country for the Armed Forces - together with their French people - is ONE for all ages! And states in history in their country on French soil come and go - and at the same time, states can change in history - and both in favor and to the detriment of the indigenous people, i.e. the native French themselves

            The national interests of their native French should be in the first place in the French Armed Forces to defend their Fatherland and their Motherland in comparison with the newcomers!
            Foreigners should not come to a foreign country, as to "a foreign monastery with its own Charter"!

            The head of staff of the French Armed Forces, François Lecointre, must be dismissed if he does not understand this. or if he himself is corruptly serving not the national interests of France, but foreign globalists.
            1. credo
              credo 17 May 2021 15: 23
              +1
              Quote: Tatiana
              ... Foreigners should not come to a foreign country, as to a "foreign monastery with its own Charter" ...!

              This primarily applies to France itself, therefore, in order not to have the situation that is now brewing in France, it is France that must first of all not create it in foreign states, destroying the latter.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 17 May 2021 15: 55
                +2
                Quote: credo
                France should first of all not create it in foreign states, destroying the latter.

                This is capitalism, as such, with its inherent property of intensive expansion of its hegemony to colonized countries!
                And it is not necessary at the same time on the issue of foreign migration policy in France absolutize only ONE side of migration policy - i.e. acceptance into their country of foreign so-called. "labor" migrants and all kinds of "refugees" from the war at home. Among them there are just a lot of so-called "economic" refugees - people in their countries are not at all poor.

                The "resettlement" of peoples is also a very profitable business for some, as well as an instrument of passive (imperceptibly, without weapons) CAPTURE of foreign territories with the REPLACEMENT of the local population by FOREIGNERS with a foreign national culture.

                All this is a CONSCIOUS policy of globalists like Soros and those who stand behind him - the Rothschilds and others - to DESTROY national states, as such, in the same Europe.

                Exactly the same foreign migration policy takes place in the government of the Russian Federation !!! It is explained by a fake argument about the need to INCREASE the birth rate.
                And in fact, the fewer foreign "labor" migrants in Russia, the more native Russians will be born, since the families of native Russians will have work with normal - not dumped newcomers on the domestic labor market - earnings.
                1. credo
                  credo 17 May 2021 16: 25
                  +1
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  This is capitalism, as such, with its inherent property of intensive expansion of its hegemony to colonized countries!

                  Then why worry about France and the French, if there is a universal word that explains the essence of all problems, namely "capitalism".

                  But then what claims can there be against the Arabs and Muslims in general, when they saw how the French pilots, together with other NATO countries, turned into dust a quite prosperous African country, Libya, and destroyed the values ​​there.

                  Now the Arabs can tell the French in the same way - Dear, monsieur, why are you so worried about France, you bombed my house in Libya (Mali, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria), so I will do the same with your house in France.
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 17 May 2021 16: 43
                    +1
                    Quote: credo
                    Now the Arabs can tell the French in the same way - Dear, monsieur, why are you so worried about France, you bombed my house in Libya (Mali, Afghanistan, Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria), so I will do the same with your house in France.

                    Everything is true, but this is only ONE side of the coin!
                    And on the other side of the coin, it is impossible not to notice the EXTERNAL Anglo-Saxon ADMINISTRATION of both France and the Russian Federation!
                    For example, Russia is not at war with the former Soviet republics of Central Asia and Transcaucasia, but a similar migration threat, as in France, comes from there and not only from there.

                    In general, it makes no difference why foreign migrants appeared in the country in the receiving countries - even in France, even in Russia - it is important that they are there and their number is steadily growing, while the number of the indigenous population is falling.
                    1. dauria
                      dauria 18 May 2021 10: 50
                      0
                      In general, it makes no difference why foreign migrants appeared in the country


                      Hmm. You see, Tatiana ... if you eliminate the real the reason, you get a "woman's revolt" in "civilized" countries.
                      First, the "aliens" are beneficial to the capitalists, there is no getting away from this. Get a Muscovite to knit reinforcement at a construction site for pouring.
                      Second, it is not customary for "newcomers" to treat a woman as an equal. Moreover, to ask her whether she wants children or not. And this is not only from the "wild" Afghans (there it is generally buying another working cattle or a car for prestige). Just look at the attitude of a man to a woman in an Azerbaijani family. You are unlikely to agree to be a silent servant.
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 18 May 2021 12: 39
                        0
                        Quote: dauria
                        Get a Muscovite to knit reinforcement at a construction site for pouring.

                        Before the collapse of the USSR and the introduction in the Russian Federation of the bluff manipulative ideology of the American Milton Friedman about the alleged existence of the so-called. "free" and "clean" market of capital, goods and LABOR FORCE with its monetarism for everyone (the pursuit of their own profits), the national home market was protected for the indigenous population. There were even films about the high-rise builders. These were the highly paid professions in the country.

                        Unprotected domestic labor marketAs such, it is not just Russia's pro-Western capitalists who benefit. It beneficial to foreign "labor" migrants themselves and is aimed at the GEOPOLITICAL destruction of Russia.

                        Not everyone understands this, even when I quote the corresponding political and economic comparative calculation.
                        It should be noted that Our would-be communists, with their interpretation of the false understanding of the "PROLETARIAN internationalism" of the classics of metalwork, are also bringing in considerable conciliation with this destructive migration policy to the Russian Federation, to the detriment of the sovereignty of our country. Sometimes they metaphysically demand that foreign "labor" migrants be paid as much as Russians, without taking into account the cost of living in the Russian Federation and in their country of origin.

                        I even argued with one of such grief of the Communists-Leninists and showed how the cost of living in various countries affects the well-being of the population and the birth rate in the light of modern migration policy.

                        The calculations can be viewed in detail at "VO" in my comments to the article "National issue and migration" dated April 15, 2021: April 15, 2021 -15: 46 and 16:09
                        I just won't repeat myself. Anyone who is fundamentally interested in this issue will certainly look at the calculations and find out why migrant workers go to the Russian Federation to work even illegally, already in the trunks.

                        Nikolay Rybnikov - Merry march of installers. Jul 15. 2020 year


                        Yuri Krupnov, Chairman of the Development Movement, Chairman of the Supervisory Board of the Institute of Demography, Migration and Regional Development, in the program "Guest Workers. The History of All-Russian Deception" on the NTV channel (September 30, 2011).
      2. Intruder
        Intruder 17 May 2021 14: 58
        +2
        In Russia, democracy, and as Peskov said to Chubais's statement about hatred of the USSR - "Has the right to express his opinion"
        , rightly respected member of the Russian scientific elite, the author of many programs for turning budgets of any level into nano-zeros on the accounts of subsidiaries!
    2. credo
      credo 17 May 2021 14: 21
      +4
      Quote: Proton
      Now on VO video with Leontyev will be uploaded?
      Survived ...

      In general, on the topic of the article.
      I’m still waiting for the Negroes with Arabs inhabiting France to write a similar letter to Emmanuel demanding that the French military and police be held accountable for their anti-liberal and undemocratic statements about those very Negroes and Arabs.

      While the French military bombed the countries of Africa and Asia, carrying "democratic values" in the form of bombs, shells and bullets for the local aborigines under the wings of aircraft, France was happy with everything, and as soon as the African and Asian aborigines moved to France, a groan rose such that we are in Russia every day we hear a discussion about France's "plight" in domestic life. Does it make sense to condemn this?
      1. Proton
        Proton 17 May 2021 14: 25
        0
        I agree! France is a vivid example of the proverb about a speck, an eye and a log.
      2. Vasilenko Vladimir
        Vasilenko Vladimir 17 May 2021 14: 41
        +2
        Quote: credo
        While the French military bombed the countries of Africa and Asia, carrying "democratic values" in the form of bombs under the wings of aircraft ...

        Well, if we ignore it, pity for the inhabitants of Asia and Africa, then the French military are 100% right, the republic is moving with leaps and bounds towards a large internal massacre
        1. credo
          credo 17 May 2021 15: 00
          -3
          Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
          Quote: credo
          While the French military bombed the countries of Africa and Asia, carrying "democratic values" in the form of bombs under the wings of aircraft ...

          Well, if we ignore it, pity for the inhabitants of Asia and Africa, then the French military are 100% right, the republic is moving with leaps and bounds towards a large internal massacre

          I doubt it will happen.
          Everything will be similar to the "epic" about the yellow vests. The most violent will be sent to their historical homeland, and the rest will be gagged.

          Some Russian citizens take French events on this topic too close to their hearts, but the French themselves will act quite harshly in relations with emigrants, if they decide to rage in real, and that is indicative of no "democratic" media or "civilized" country in the world will condemn this behavior of the French.

          It makes no sense to us on this topic. The French have a long and rich experience in pacifying the disobedient.
          1. Vasilenko Vladimir
            Vasilenko Vladimir 17 May 2021 15: 17
            -2
            Quote: credo
            The most violent will be sent to their historical homeland

            and where is the historical homeland of the French?
      3. Intruder
        Intruder 17 May 2021 15: 00
        -1
        While the French military bombed the countries of Africa and Asia, carrying "democratic values" in the form of bombs, shells and bullets for the local aborigines under the wings of aircraft, France was happy with everything, and as soon as the African and Asian aborigines moved to France, a groan rose such that we are in Russia every day we hear a discussion about France's "plight" in domestic life. Does it make sense to condemn this?
        Hmm, it is necessary to help France, through the passage of Russian tourists, such as those ... ichtamnets with the capture of Paris, grandfather Suvorov, already did this ... laughing good
        1. credo
          credo 17 May 2021 15: 03
          +2
          Quote: Intruder
          Hmm, it is necessary to help France, through the passage of Russian tourists, such as those ... ichtamnets with the capture of Paris, grandfather Suvorov, already did this ...

          Let them clean up this mess themselves, we have enough of our own to do.
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 17 May 2021 15: 08
            0
            Let them clean up this mess themselves, we have enough of our own to do.
            Hmm, somehow it turns out one-sided !? then why support one proud president in a small-Arab republic for so many years ..., covering his "poor" buttocks, at the expense of poor Russians with one of the lowest living standards in Eurasia, or nurture a local well-fed oligarchy with the genetic habits of gopov in the district , in the south-east of the neighboring country! ??? request
            1. credo
              credo 17 May 2021 15: 17
              -1
              Quote: Intruder
              Hmm, somehow it turns out one-sided !?

              This is politics, not one-sidedness. Syria and Ukraine do not have a colonial history, so it's stupid to compare the incomparable.
              1. Intruder
                Intruder 17 May 2021 15: 39
                0
                Syria and Ukraine do not have a colonial history, so it's stupid to compare the incomparable.
                just the same, do not have ... hmm, a very bold statement! What is colonial history for you ... ??? To continue the conversation, first I will ask ... and then not to return to this already!
                1. Intruder
                  Intruder 17 May 2021 15: 44
                  0
                  in Syria:
                  In the 3rd millennium BC. e. on the territory of Syria there was a Semitic city-state of Ebla, which was part of the circle of the Sumerian-Akkadian civilization. One of the brightest eras of its early history was the X-VIII centuries BC. e., when, after the campaigns of conquest of the kings Rizon I and Tab-Rimmon, the city of Damascus became the center of the powerful Aramaic kingdom, which soon became the hegemon of all of Syria. In 739 BC. e. Assyrian troops managed to take Arpad (Syria). In 738 BC. e. they also captured 19 more Syrian cities. Under these conditions, the Syrian rulers forgot about their strife and rallied around the new Damascus king Rizon II, Alexander the Great after the battle of Issus moved to Syria, instead of pursuing Darius. Parmenion captured the entire convoy of the Persian army in Damascus, and Alexander himself occupied Phenicia. Thus, Syria in 332 BC. e. became part of the Macedonian kingdom. In 635 A.D. e. Syria was devastated and then conquered by the Arabs, after which a significant part of the Aramaic population was converted to Islam. In 660-750, when Damascus served as the residence of the Caliphs, the prosperity of Syria began to rise again, but with the decline of the Damascus Caliphate, the country became impoverished. In 1260, the decaying Ayyubid state was invaded by the Mongols under the leadership of Hulagu Khan, who took possession of Aleppo and Damascus, but was stopped by the Mamluk forces led by Sultan Qutuz in the battle of Ain Jalut in northern Palestine. Syria was under Egyptian rule until it was conquered in 1517 by the Ottoman Sultan Selim I. Under the Ottomans, Syria was divided into 4 provinces headed by governors who were directly subordinate to the Istanbul administration. During the First World War, the Arabs (mainly from the Hejaz), together with the British, participated in the liberation of Syria from the Ottomans. When the Arab army, led by Faisal ibn Hussein, entered Damascus in October 1918, it was greeted as a liberator. In 1920, France received a mandate to govern Syria in San Remo and began an offensive from the coast to the east with its 60-strong army. Soon the French entered Damascus and expelled Faisal with his 8-strong army.
                  On April 17, 1946, Syria gained complete independence from France. In 1958, Syria tried to unite with Egypt and the United Arab Republic was formed. In 1973, Hafez al-Assad became the head of the republic.
                  and this is not the colonial history of SAR !?
    3. RealPilot
      RealPilot 17 May 2021 15: 05
      -1
      Democracy...
      Their whole democracy was an advertising sign for gullible popuas. White and not so much.

      We were also shown a DEMO version of this "most progressive system". Well, we rattled with beads from pretentious "brands", and then we thought about the price of this banquet, but at whose expense it was! They counted and wept.

      Now let's take a look at these migrants who came to France for a better life. The most radical are children in the second generation who could not find themselves. A society of equal opportunities, that is, democratic with human rights, was not created.
      Well, the newcomers from the zones of local conflicts (unleashed, by the way, by the hands of France, too) are not ready to integrate at all - they just have nothing to do, the fairy tale turned out to be a lie ... And their life at home is destroyed, there is nowhere to return. Plus there is combat experience, and it can come in handy in a crisis situation.
      Earlier people came from the colonies to work, tried to join the society of the metropolis. It was welcome, profitable and prestigious.

      Accordingly, from disappointment in a new model of life for them, they return to their usual one. And this leads to the formation of enclaves, in an increasingly hostile environment.

      Therefore, the French will have to solve this problem. Their pledge of survival and salvation is in the hands of the security forces, because first you need to put things in order: count and rewrite everyone, confiscate weapons, imprison a criminal element, execute or deport ... Well, then think about the future!
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  2. Anachoret
    Anachoret 17 May 2021 14: 11
    +1
    3rd letter is scary, because 4th letter may come for it belay

    If Macron and his bunch of globalists do not have time to erode the national integrity of France, a valuable furry animal may lie in wait for him already in the quite tangible future)) from the "grateful indigenous" French))
    1. 210ox
      210ox 17 May 2021 14: 25
      -2
      Come on. These letters are like the latest Chinese warnings. And the Arabs have long become native Frenchmen there, and the national integrity of France has long been eroded. And the Arctic fox from the grateful French ??? Yes, the maximum they are able to ride these trances in the elections. It is the Arabs, Asians and Africans who can put the country in a pose.
  3. Million
    Million 17 May 2021 14: 21
    +2
    Tolerance is evil!
    Russia needs to be more careful when letting foreigners into the country; they have become strangers to us, despite some common past.
  4. Alien From
    Alien From 17 May 2021 14: 21
    +2
    The next letter will be with powder .......
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 17 May 2021 14: 55
      +2
      The next letter will be with powder .......
      with Newbie ... laughing
  5. Xlor
    Xlor 17 May 2021 14: 26
    0
    Black Mark...
  6. Kushka
    Kushka 17 May 2021 14: 42
    +1
    Sure sure. French generals are the most
    fighters for democracy, the highest standard.
    They chased old De Gaulle with bombs to the last.
    It was a shame for them for Algeria and Morocco.
  7. Intruder
    Intruder 17 May 2021 14: 54
    +1
    All the security officials in their messages to the head of state point to the need for urgent action so that France does not plunge into chaos.
    the last decade of the 18th century, almost 10 years of the Civil War and the full arrival of that very fur-bearing animal - a scribe, in those territories, then one cunning military Bonaparto, took up the creation of the Empire and that was already .., you can see the history goes in spirals, in the French Republic !!!
  8. Mikhalych 70
    Mikhalych 70 17 May 2021 20: 23
    0
    They would give the St. Petersburg riot police the command "face", and, as they say, three days))) there would be no such enclaves))). They would teach the French to "work on the territory." In general, if there are such enclaves, it means that someone needs it. In the same Fifth Republic. And it is not shameful for French cones to take tribute from Arabia just as it is for St. Petersburg, Moscow, etc. according to the list of cities in the Russian Federation.
  9. Aleksandr97
    Aleksandr97 17 May 2021 22: 33
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    But someone "grew" and "populated" the enclaves bully ! Yellow vests have been demanding something since 2018 !!! wassat
    It is symptomatic that there is a series of Appeals !!!, it means that something is upset and Normal reports through their channels and the adoption of appropriate decisions do not pass! And to resign ...
    For Macron and the ruling "elites," the moment of truth or the politician's whirlwind will rock the boat to the last French revolution, or there will be a return to classical government without neoliberal ideas and the stifling of external controlled chaos, which creates a precedent for privatization in the center of Europe on a new level.
  10. iouris
    iouris 17 May 2021 23: 52
    -1
    The bourgeois democracy of France began with the plunder of Europe and Russia, with the genocide of the population in the Vendée, with massive repressions, with the invention of the guillotine. Russia saved France three times, and for this the entire XX century was a debtor to the French nation, the rentier nation. Remember how non-remembering Russians Ivan wrote on air bombs in Syria "For Paris!" So, no more these nonsense.
  11. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 18 May 2021 09: 35
    0
    So with democracy in the United States - the founder of this false religion (democracy), it is also not so. And for a long time. There, too, the military writes against Bidon and the Democrats, who seized power as a result of falsifications and manipulation by BLM, antifa and other radicals. Right now, Bidon is catching up with emigrants to the country, who will vote for him and the Democrats in the next elections. Republicans did not let them in and expelled them ... In the EU, such a situation has a tolerant government of all, and the allowed lawlessness of those who have come in large numbers infuriates everyone.
  12. nikvic46
    nikvic46 18 May 2021 15: 52
    +1
    In fact, the military opposed the interests of business and bureaucracy. If everything is clear with business, then bureaucracy flourishes with a large flow of migrants. And of course corruption. What do they do in this case? They are looking for an external enemy.
  13. isv000
    isv000 19 May 2021 14: 08
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    It seems we can see the sixth republic ...