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Don't rush to bury us ...

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Well, I don't even know when these two stunned guys will do something decently! Not poisoned, not shot, unexploded people and warehouses all over Europe, this Navalny ... Alive and almost healthy ...


And here's another failure of Petrov and Va ... Well, yes, Boshirov. Although, indeed, Vasechkin and Petrov worked cooler and more efficiently in their time.

Well, you understand what this is about, right?


For several days in a row, the attention of certain media was riveted on the Omsk Minister of Health Murakhovsky, who disappeared in the Omsk forests.

By chance and his own perseverance, Murakhovsky came out of the forest. Himself. And that's great. The fact that he found himself, testifies to a sufficient share of perseverance, and, as they say, such energy for good goals.

In general - we congratulate the minister, God grant him health and work to save lives with the same perseverance as he saved his. Well done.

Now let's talk a little about something else. About what was happening in some media. And there was a rampant of such suspicion and strange conclusions that it was just right for colleagues from REN-TV to cuddle up to the screens of monitors and read, gaining experience.


What happened anyway? Well, a doctor went hunting. At some point I decided to go around the swamp, and then it turned out that he was not a hunter so-so. The ATV plunged into another swamp, there is usually no connection in the taiga, so Murakhovsky went where, in his opinion, it is. Yes, instead of 6,5 km I walked 45, but in the end I came out to the people.

Private in general история... If not for one nuance: Murakhovsky worked in the same ill-fated Omsk BSMP-1, where the slightly green Navalny was brought.

This is where it all started ...

Gentlemen, employees of "Dozhd", "Echo", "Meduza", "Versiy", "Svoboda" and other publications rushed to dig. And they dug so that they could easily get to the bottom of the Inca gold. On the other side, through the center of the Earth.

And the conclusions were about the same.

Murakhovsky's wife does not comment and is in a very nervous state. This is suspicious.

Murakhovsky's deputy, Kalinichenko, who sent Navalny to Germany, quit. Also very suspicious.

Anesthesiologist Maksimishin, who took part in Navalny's resuscitation, suddenly died of a heart attack. In February. This was considered a very suspicious death.

And in March, another doctor of BSMP-1, Rustam Agishev, died. He headed the department of traumatology and orthopedics, had nothing to do with Navalny from the word "absolutely" and all coincidences and suspicions were based on the fact that Agishev worked in this ill-fated hospital.

But a very suspicious death. The headlines that covered the publications were from the region “The second death of a doctor in the Omsk hospital”, “The ex-head doctor of the hospital where Navalny was lying disappeared in Omsk, two doctors of this hospital had died earlier. What's happening?" etc.

Boshirov and Petrova could not find a week. And this is perhaps the most suspicious thing about this case. Apparently, our brave couple stuck out in the woods near Omsk, feeding bears and waiting for Murakhovsky.

Everything is so suspicious, right?


And now Murakhovsky disappears into a dense forest. And the flight of fantasies begins in full. Despite the fact that people saw him leave, people were aware that he had planted an ATV somewhere in a swamp and would continue on foot.

And the versions, assumptions, attempts to link the work of Murakhovsky to the chief physician of BSMP-1 began, when Navalny was being treated there. In general, everything looked quite delusional, up to the statements that "the doctors knew too much." And that death was not ordinary. And Murakhovsky got lost in the forest for a reason.

The standard set, however. In addition to the absence of BP in the workplace.

And when Alexander Grigorievich independently went out to people, for some reason those who yesterday so intensely exaggerated guesses around his sudden disappearance were not at all happy about this fact.

It would seem that a man came out, everything is fine. No, it's not good. But what about the version? Guesses? Intrigue? Accusations of the authorities?

No, the group of thugs, which from ambush shot through the tire of the ATV, and then fed Murakhovsky to the bears, did not come to that. Obviously, they did not have time. Another couple of days, and something like that would have been given out on the mountain. Witnesses would see an unmarked helicopter, or a couple of very suspiciously familiar people in camouflage ...

In short, something would have come up.

The main thing here is to properly merge and link with the desire of the authorities to silence doctors who knew something like that.

Indeed, in general, by and large, today no one cares about Navalny. No matter how he gets out in the colony, he is really of no interest to anyone. And the most that could attract a little attention is these scandalous materials.

And here is such a bummer.

Murakhovsky simply (and quite reasonably) decided to bypass the peat bog, along which the main group rode on a swamp vehicle. True, this did not save him and the ATV, but everything else worked out pretty well.

It should be bad only for those who based their accusatory materials on this case. True, it was not at all clear who should be blamed. But what our opposition media have heaped up is enough to think hard for those who blindly believe "those who write the truth."

And yet, do not rush to bury us. Anything happens in this life. Of course, today many regret that Murakhovsky spoiled their materials, but why was there such a hurry?

As the late Mikhail Zhvanetsky said, "More careful, more thorough."


Therefore, as a result, I would like to voice the following questions:

1. Isn't it time comrades Boshirov and Petrov to be disciplined and reprimanded with a warning about incomplete official compliance? Something too they have a lot of punctures in their work.

2. Who taught topography to bears? Why did the troika stagger in a circle within a radius of a kilometer from Murakhovsky's ATV, unable to identify itself on the map?

3. Bears also need a reprimand. It is clear that there was nothing in the square with communication, but who allowed to leave the search square without a corresponding order? What liberties?

4. There was no connection ... Probably, it is necessary to declare gratitude to the boars from the 39th separate radio engineering brigade of special purpose. To discourage the bears.

But in general, we must admit that even in this situation, everything turned out pretty well. At least, what many media have plunged into can be a lesson for others who want to moan loudly with and without reason.

Although, most likely, it is unlikely. That's the way they do it. Shower and fight again. But there is nothing to be done about it, we live in such times.
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  2. parusnik
    parusnik 15 May 2021 15: 21
    +8
    Where to laugh? Why am I asking, here they talk about the media, about the anxiety of some, some people, I honestly forgot not whom, but I don’t know anyone. Salt, what? For those who know the situation, people, it will be funny. Although over what? One got lost in the forest, others died ..
    1. Alexander Seklitsky
      Alexander Seklitsky 15 May 2021 15: 41
      +11
      I sympathize ... it's hard to live without a sense of humor
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 15 May 2021 16: 23
        +12
        Why? Some jokes are very funny, about galoshes, about which there is no money, but you have to hold on, about space, sometimes very funny, I laughed a lot when my mother's pension was increased by two dollars, not only to her, of course. liberal and other media, maybe he laughed.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 16 May 2021 07: 53
          -1
          I totally agree. This rotten humor is already pretty boring. And in general, it has been wildly annoying lately. Against the background of all this trash, what is going on in the country and in the world. But for some reason the author decided that we should have fun from this cheap urapatriotic opus. No, of course, whining constantly is also not the case. But this kind of turbidity has already been replicated beyond the bounds.
        2. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 16 May 2021 11: 04
          +10
          hi It seems to me, Alexey, different people have different lives. Therefore, there are different reasons for laughing. For example, about galoshes. Here is my mother, very often our RED TRIANGLE (which made these galoshes), destroyed by capaclysm, recalls that the sole was wonderful (she wore these galoshes as a child). Says the following --- Soviet slippers were waterproof. And the modern Chinese, having the appearance of a rubber sole, are water-permeable. That's what they did! And other countries do about the same. Italian is better, a little bit .... And the prices!
          Namely, in the laboratories of the RED TRIANGLE, work was being carried out to create synthetic rubber, or gutta-percha. In 1932, the plant began to produce synthetic rubber. The authors are inventors --- B.V. S. V. BYZOV LEBEDEV.
          The RED TRIANGLE plant is one of the oldest Russian enterprises. Now this is an abandoned place - the windows are broken, the buildings are abandoned ... several small shoe companies somehow exist ...
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 16 May 2021 11: 10
            +7
            I will continue. 34 buildings have become an abandoned part of the plant (the figure is inaccurate) There is no control over these buildings. Looting is flourishing, with the marauders getting 3 antique water tanks and a cast-iron spiral staircase and much more. There is a threat of collapse of some buildings due to looters. And some of the buildings have already collapsed.
            1. Mikhalych 70
              Mikhalych 70 16 May 2021 17: 08
              +3
              Was there. Horror! And under the Soviet regime, all this worked, the access control was ... And the enterprise gave the products "to the mountain".
              1. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 16 May 2021 19: 02
                +5
                There, after all, research was carried out. New grades of rubber for a wide variety of purposes. The fact that our people created artificial rubber before the Second World War helped a lot. The workers had a "social package," as they say now. How many people were out of work. After all, this is not the only "abandonment", unfortunately.
                1. depressant
                  depressant 16 May 2021 21: 10
                  +3
                  Dima, you have mentioned remarkable facts about the plant. I didn’t know, now I’ll know. Thank you! Hmm, here's your galoshes ...
                  1. Reptiloid
                    Reptiloid 16 May 2021 21: 57
                    0
                    Now the network is glitches. I could write more. For example, that it is the oldest enterprise in St. Petersburg, since 1860 For example, more. The plant had a Palace of Culture, I once mentioned about it. This is a large building, built at the turn of the century, 5 or 6 floors, there were a lot of all kinds of activities for the factory workers.
                    Well at least they didn’t do the abandonment there. There is such a way - as if the building is awaiting restoration or a thorough renovation. ..... but in fact it is destroyed. And then ---- ah! I almost didn’t wait, !!
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 16 May 2021 22: 50
                      +1
                      Dima, there is a resource on Zen.
                      It is about the old buildings of St. Petersburg. I watched one report, they promise constant sequels. Come across, I'll watch. Luxurious doors, a luxurious entrance, and a back door ... These same buildings have back doors and courtyards-wells for servants. And there - monstrous garbage dumps on all floors, defiled walls and the same courtyard. Tajiks and homeless people live on the floors. Needless to say, some interjections! But these buildings, they are relics, artifacts, jewels!
                      1. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 17 May 2021 05: 34
                        +1
                        hi good morning, Lyudmila Yakovlevna! Is it possible at least what address? After all, for work, I do not go to all areas ...
                      2. depressant
                        depressant 17 May 2021 07: 22
                        +4
                        I didn’t remember the address of that house, but after talking with you I got back to this site in Zen. Now they told about the death of the pre-revolutionary weaving factory "Red Banner".

                        The resource is called "Non-tourist guide"
                      3. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 17 May 2021 16: 09
                        +1
                        It is precisely about this factory that I know a lot, because I often visit the Petrogradskaya side, my older relatives lived nearby. It is on Krasniy Kursant Street. There are also classrooms of the Military Space Academy named after V.I. AF Mozhaisky. Earlier, before the Revolution, in these buildings, there was a military school too. (I can't say for sure, it changed often, but I know that Mendeleev taught there) The factory served it.
                        I know that under the USSR the work at the factory was in 3 shifts. It was considered a giant of the knitwear industry. The factory gave registration to those who came from other cities. Many wanted to come to Leningrad, but there were restrictions.
                        I will not talk about how and when it was closed and stolen. Sad story.
                      4. depressant
                        depressant 17 May 2021 17: 47
                        +4
                        Dima, good evening! )))
                        The Krasnoye Znamya factory produced a huge amount of products in demand by the population, which are now supplied by China. Chinese workers got jobs for this, the Russians lost them. That's the problem. And not only. The strategic security of the country, which has sharply reduced the range of consumer goods due to the destruction of tens of thousands of enterprises, also falls sharply. As if the war went through our territory.
                      5. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 17 May 2021 18: 25
                        +1
                        Tights, stockings, socks, for babies - all kinds of clothes, I can't remember anything else ...... Where did the equipment go ---- everything was sold, apparently illegally. There are those who saw it all. Just before all the destruction, they bought some new machines abroad. And the female workers were happy about it. Many cried later ....... And where are the people from the hostels? I do not know.
                      6. depressant
                        depressant 17 May 2021 20: 17
                        +1
                        This cruelty to people and the liquidation of quite capable enterprises with a wide internal market for their products is evidence of the absolute inhumanity of those who broke the Union. In my understanding, they are not people. I don't see human devil.
                      7. Reptiloid
                        Reptiloid 18 May 2021 06: 58
                        +1
                        Yes, Lyudmila Yakovlevna! It was from you that I learned the words of Chubais about the destruction of Soviet enterprises. How many people were thrown into the street without explanation. So, for example, those visitors who built the dam here. I know that they were not given food coupons even when they appeared ...
              2. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 17 May 2021 16: 22
                +1
                Thank you Lyudmila Yakovlevna for the information. Now everything is very clean on Petrorradka, those buildings are painted on the outside, according to the brickwork. Double-glazed windows in the windows, everything is well maintained. And what is hidden behind this?
                Do you know how it was in the 90s? I will tell. But not right now. There are many seasons of the series BROKEN LAMP STREETS. The first season was filmed in the Kirovsky district. But most of the others, later - just on the Petrograd side. Not far. Somewhere I can be footage with the street of the Red Cadet
                ... ..... On Krestovsky Island, (such a beautiful place,) the factory had hostels and something else. Broke. There is very expensive housing now.
              3. depressant
                depressant 17 May 2021 17: 52
                +2
                Dima, you can't see it from the outside. The people who took the picture went inside the building, the façade of which was diligently painted. And the black staircase, which by its architecture could have been a front staircase in an elite new model, is in an ugly state, like the courtyard. I am still amazed - how is that? This is St. Petersburg!
              4. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 17 May 2021 18: 18
                +2
                ....... this is St. Petersburg ....
                ... This is capaclysm. There, in that program, perhaps you will learn about the property and about the architectural monument. I will not talk about it yet.
              5. depressant
                depressant 17 May 2021 18: 20
                +1
                Did I understand correctly, Dima, that you are studying the material? ))))
              6. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 18 May 2021 16: 53
                +1
                The topic of the Nevsky District is very interesting. I didn't read it on purpose. However, I know that at the beginning of the last century it was an area, and all or not ,? Or was the area designated differently? The topic is very interesting. In pre-revolutionary times a revolutionary movement was formed there. Various factories were covered by it ........ It is necessary to read ... There are a lot of interesting things you can learn ...
              7. depressant
                depressant 18 May 2021 17: 39
                +1
                That's how you will become a local historian, Dima! If you still had the opportunity to travel around Lenlblasta, at least in the immediate vicinity of St. Petersburg, you would see how many palaces the nouveau riche built, and not just, but according to the projects of Italian architects, with the involvement of Italian masters, which floors are laid from different types of trees, marble, mirrors, gilding, silk wallpaper ...
                How they want to turn back time - in the era of Nicholas II. Forgetting where this era drove. Into the ipatievsky basement.
              8. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 18 May 2021 21: 02
                +1
                I saw something, Lyudmila Yakovlevna. I am traveling in the immediate vicinity. You see, how many museums, memorable places ... ... Just interesting. And there is a different nature ... And there are buildings of rich people in a modern style, made of glass and concrete, it happens that they are very interesting
              9. depressant
                depressant 18 May 2021 21: 10
                +1
                Well, what is made of glass and concrete can be seen from the road. New builds in the form of palaces are hidden in the depths of the estates. Hmmm ...
              10. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 18 May 2021 21: 19
                +1
                Another thing is interesting - the presence of what was previously called services .... So in my opinion? Some auxiliary buildings. Here you think about the number of servants. ....
                I thought about the Ipatiev house .... There are EBN Slavs. .I wonder what they don't remember him lol destruction of the Ipatiev house.
              11. depressant
                depressant 18 May 2021 21: 27
                +1
                Did Yeltsin destroy it? Honestly, I didn't know about Yeltsin. And in general I found out quite recently that the house was destroyed. I remember wondering why? Or it was already useless to look for logic there.
              12. Reptiloid
                Reptiloid 18 May 2021 21: 41
                +1
                The tablet spoils everything for me now ..... I doubt that I will be able to write ...
                Yes, the Ipatiev house was destroyed in the fall of 1977. Under Yeltsin, it was he who gave this order. If you write to a search engine ---Yeltsin destroyed the Ipatiev house - you can find out interesting things ..... Respectfully yours, Lyudmila Yakovlevna.
  • Mikhalych 70
    Mikhalych 70 17 May 2021 20: 26
    +2
    A living recent example: "Nevskaya Manufactory". I found myself in the circle of "human beings". And there is no shopping center, here, and ... To paraphrase the Darkest One, "- She burned out."
  • Kisa
    Kisa 15 May 2021 17: 33
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    Quote: Alexander Seklitsky
    without a sense of humor

    Well, humor is so-so. the dude was found and the other two doctors had enough condrats - already positive
    1. Alexander Seklitsky
      Alexander Seklitsky 16 May 2021 07: 15
      +2
      So it is not this fact that is mocked, but how our libershiza took advantage of it. I have already come across arguments in the style of "The Kremlin is removing witnesses", where, in all seriousness, they built versions of the cleansing of "all who are in the subject."
      1. IS-80_RVGK2
        IS-80_RVGK2 16 May 2021 07: 57
        -3
        Aren't you tired of this endless series of struggling with Libshiza yet? The patriots still cannot overcome it, although nowadays there is a bunch of patriots at every corner for five kopecks. Don't you think they make a fool of you with this theater of wrestling? And there are no patriots or liberals by and large, but there are people who make money by deceiving other people.
      2. Kisa
        Kisa 16 May 2021 16: 14
        +1
        Quote: Alexander Seklitsky
        "everyone in the subject"

        I am not campaigning for anyone, but my contradictory life experience tells anyone not to believe either one or that. It's a shame when they hold for cattle. Regarding this plot, it reminds me of associations with Rodchenkov a couple of years ago, when he fled, and all his deputies have had such a scar during the year with mycardic heart attacks ...
        here, nevertheless, do not mock the author of the article, but figure out why everyone took up arms
        1. Alexander Seklitsky
          Alexander Seklitsky 16 May 2021 18: 49
          -2
          That is, you admit the idea that "Petrov and Boshirov" is in business? Only the plan failed laughing
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 15 May 2021 15: 28
    -1
    I don’t know, I haven’t seen that.
    Maybe the author invented everything? for the length of the article then?
    1. lucul
      lucul 15 May 2021 15: 38
      +2
      Maybe the author invented everything?

      Invented that Murakhovsky himself came out of the forest? I understand, belief in oppo. Media is akin to religious belief)))
      1. Maks1995
        Maks1995 15 May 2021 15: 52
        +2
        What came out, I heard out of my ear. But all sorts of echoes - the first time I come across ...
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 15 May 2021 16: 24
          +6
          Come on) all the tapes, all sorts of Zen, bloggers got bored so they were tortured to block
        2. Podvodnik
          Podvodnik 15 May 2021 16: 48
          +5
          first time I come across ...


          Karaulov on his YouTube channel raised this conspiracy topic, listen!
    2. 210ox
      210ox 15 May 2021 15: 51
      +9
      The novel recalled that it had long gone rotten. Some kind of Medusa, rain and co. And the most terrible length is oblivion.
      1. Maks1995
        Maks1995 15 May 2021 15: 53
        +3
        Yes. If you don't know what to write about, scold the State Department and the liberals in general terms ...
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 15 May 2021 16: 25
          +4
          And who scolds them?) They simply and frankly laugh at them
          1. Maks1995
            Maks1995 15 May 2021 16: 44
            -3
            And you can laugh too. The trouble is that almost everyone laughs stupidly and unfunny. For show and self-promotion
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 15 May 2021 17: 01
              +2
              Or just because it's funny)
  • out of habit
    out of habit 15 May 2021 15: 28
    +2
    First-hand humor, sucked out of the finger. (It is necessary more carefully, more carefully.)
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 15 May 2021 15: 38
    +5
    Murakhov's doctor is not a real one, the Herods have changed! belay
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 15 May 2021 15: 56
    +11
    Don't rush to bury us ...

    What is this essay? Who is Murakhovsky?
    Novel! You, forgive me for the review, from one word: "the shadow cast by the horseradish on other plants"!
    Do you think that people are only interested in those who treated A. Navalny and what is their health? I will voice one thought for you. Navalny himself voluntarily arrived in Russia. I myself chose the method of defense in court. He himself received a verdict from our Russian justice - the most correct justice in the world.
    Petrov ...Vasechkin... Boshirov ... Yes, even though Petrov-Vodkin himself on a red horse ...
    Do you know that the situation in the country is so “explosive” that, for example, the murder of children in Kazan worries society much more. And we absolutely do not care how the hero of labor, Mr. Rotenberg, will dispose of his palace near Gelendzhik and how many billions of dollars Potanin will spend on eliminating the consequences of an environmental disaster, and how much he will give his wife in court for divorce. We should have time to collect 150 rubles for a girl for a single drug ... hi
    1. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 15 May 2021 16: 07
      +5
      Quote: ROSS 42
      he himself voluntarily arrived in Russia. I myself chose the method of defense in court. Received the sentence myself

      No, not myself.
      He was very strongly advised.
      Those who are now talking about his suffering from the stands of all European parliaments and declaring us sanctions.
      Quote: ROSS 42
      Do you think that people are only interested in those who treated A. Navalny and what is their health?
      since publications with "bright faces" write about it, it means they hope that yes.
      Quote: ROSS 42
      for example, the killing of children in Kazan worries society much more.

      Since Europe does not discuss this at its summits, it means that some wrong society is worried about it.
      For example, I would not be surprised that we will soon be announced sanctions for the fact that this shooter was somehow wrongly arrested.
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 15 May 2021 16: 46
      +6
      L.O. Utesov, during one of his concerts in Odessa, did the following: after finishing the final song, waved his hand, said: the concert is over, let's go home and left the stage, the whole audience followed him to the exit. The next year, there in Odessa, Utyosov repeated his joke, but the people did not fall for it. Perplexed, he was standing at the theater. A boy came up to him and said: Uncle Lenya, last year's joke in Odessa is no longer a joke. So this article. Pysy. Could be just write that, as they say in Odessa, last year's joke is no longer a joke. But gentlemen with a sense of humor would have swooped in and called them Bandera and Ukrainian. laughing
    3. depressant
      depressant 16 May 2021 21: 20
      +4
      Yuri Vasilievich, I support you!
      Do you think that people are only interested in those who treated A. Navalny and what is their health?

      I looked through the article on its publication and was surprised. It's like finding a small piece of cheese that has dried to stone hardness in the refrigerator. It seems to be a value, but there is no longer. I did not expect this from such an Author.
      But it often happens that an article is just an excuse for talking to the point.
      I'll go on reading the comments, maybe I'll find something interesting.
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 16 May 2021 21: 45
        +1
        Lyudmila Yakovlevna! hi I am satisfied with the article. At least in normal language about different situations. I didn't even know about doctors. What came to me? Just from the iron is not distributed, what analyzes at the bulk, what mri, but about urine or hernia. How much time has passed since they started talking about poisoning, and all the discussions continue ....... I remembered about the ancient fortune telling by the insides. The priests laid out these insides and discussed --- what conclusion to draw .. laughing .. somehow reminded
        1. depressant
          depressant 16 May 2021 22: 13
          +1
          Dima, on "Publicist" about Navalny, the roar was like a herd of zombies or ghouls crawled out of the forest - screaming and roaring, shaking in epilepsy. Finally calmed down, so here this fool got lost! What a gift ... And then there was an article: they say, the operatives stopped him, took him aside and told him what to say about Navalny and told him to stomp in the forest along the 45 km highway, that is, until he had enough strength.
          Meanwhile, there are a lot of cases when people wander through the forest - the road is here, next to it, and they spend weeks running through the thicket, barely finding them alive. As if the Goblin is circling them. I'm reading about "Liza Alert". Hence the expression "lost in three pines".
        2. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 16 May 2021 22: 23
          0
          Before, people did not talk about illness. Neither about Lenin, nor about Andropov, for example, immediately everyone is interested. sad for example, if a small child in diapers has done what, parents say to everyone --- ah! He put it on! It's about the same thing ...
    4. your1970
      your1970 17 May 2021 12: 22
      0
      Quote: ROSS 42
      how many billions of dollars Potanin will spend on eliminating the consequences of an environmental disaster

      They have already paid the fine ...
      "Almost the entire amount - ₽145 billion - went to the federal budget, another ₽684 million was sent to the Norilsk budget. The company refused to appeal against the court's decision to pay the fine" ...
  • Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 15 May 2021 16: 00
    +4
    where many media have plunged can be a lesson for others

    No, it can't.
    For this is how the overwhelming majority of the so-called. news resources on the Internet.
    Somewhere they heard / read something and instantly went to publication, so if not the first, then in the first hundred. Otherwise, you will drown under thousands of the same, unhurried Yandex.
    What kind of checks are there, stupidly there is no time, and 99% of the technical capabilities, the staff are scanty.
    Now, if for each post in the news, each such author paid at least a fine, not to mention criminal liability, then the number of those wishing to publish fakes and just fantasies would have diminished.
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 15 May 2021 16: 29
    +13
    ... there is usually no connection in the taiga, so Murakhovsky went where, in his opinion, it is. Yes, instead of 6,5 km I covered 45, ...
    Why did it pass 45, but because
    Mentally undeveloped person
    What would a normally mentally and intellectually developed person do? Correctly, I would go BACK, that is, BACK in the footsteps of my ATV, this is 6,5 - six and a half kilometers, six thousand five hundred meters - thirteen thousand steps, this is about 2,5 hours, I know I walked through the taiga. But this one Mentally undeveloped person Passed 45 kilometers, FORTY-FIVE !!! ... And this person who cannot even compare white with soft is the Minister of Health of the Omsk Region !!! In reality, Navlny's lawyers asked Murakhovsky for directions. laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 15 May 2021 16: 49
      +2
      Quote: Fitter65
      Correctly would go BACK, that is, BACK in the tracks of his ATV

      If they were visible. The terrain there is apparently swampy, so it's not a fact that they were.
      1. Fitter65
        Fitter65 16 May 2021 01: 56
        +2
        Quote: Dart2027
        Quote: Fitter65
        Correctly would go BACK, that is, BACK in the tracks of his ATV

        If they were visible. The terrain there is apparently swampy, so it's not a fact that they were.

        Yeah, right at once everything was tightened and overgrown. Why make people laugh, it would be okay to walk on foot, you can still understand. and in a swampy area, the track will remain anyway ...
      2. Toucan
        Toucan 16 May 2021 12: 25
        +1
        If you had ever walked through a swamp or mari at least once in your life, you would not have written this. Quadric 100% leaves traces on wet vegetation that are clearly visible for at least a couple of months.
    2. Podvodnik
      Podvodnik 15 May 2021 17: 03
      +9
      ... What would a normally mentally and intellectually developed person do?


      I don’t know who and what, but I personally take a navigator, a compass and a scanned piece of a map apart from a knife with a basket to the forest for mushrooms. Although I have known the area and landmarks for a long time. You can get lost in three pines. Several times I helped my "fellow" hobbyists with the question "where is the train platform / gardening / road ...."
      In the most extreme case, you can use your smartphone. Applications with sea maps. And a telephone connection is not needed for this. "ZhPS" and so it works.
      Apparently, the usual carelessness that almost led to a tragedy.
    3. ghby
      ghby 17 May 2021 10: 47
      0
      Quote: Fitter65
      Correctly, I would go BACK, that is, BACK in the footsteps of my ATV, this is 6,5 - six and a half kilometers, six thousand five hundred meters - thirteen thousand steps, this is about 2,5 hours, I know I walked through the taiga.

      who walked knows and is guided. Step aside to the city and hello. He's urban. Somehow they sent me: there is one and a half kilometers along the path (last year's) to the hut. I said they took my hand and you see. ))) I never saw a path there. I'm the same city and in similar places only with a guide.
  • hhurik
    hhurik 15 May 2021 16: 45
    +1
    We must add a new song
  • Catfish
    Catfish 15 May 2021 16: 46
    +3
    And here's another failure of Petrov and Va ... Well, yes, Boshirov.

    The last photo of our national heroes before leaving for the operation to catch Comrade Murakhovsky. The minister was found, but their current whereabouts are still unknown. This leads to certain thoughts. laughing

    1. depressant
      depressant 16 May 2021 21: 36
      +1
      By the way, yes! wassat )))

      But for some reason it seems to me that since they were so large, they live with quiet mice in the place of their former work and write reports on how they managed to give a political shade to uncomplicated operational actions.
      1. Catfish
        Catfish 16 May 2021 21: 54
        +1
        ... how they managed to give a political flavor to uncomplicated operational actions.


        You can't drink professionalism! laughing

        Good evening, Lyudmila. smile
        1. depressant
          depressant 16 May 2021 22: 21
          +1
          Good evening, Kostya! hi )))
          I read slowly IN. The authors are cautious, shifting the throwing of critical charges onto the commentators, and they are also cautious, so as not to offend persons. Or is it just me? laughing )))
          1. Catfish
            Catfish 16 May 2021 23: 10
            +1
            Yes, in general, not everyone is cautious, especially in the comments, the situation in the country is already getting to everyone on the sly.
            I liked the comments on the article "Convoy battles in the Gulf of Riga", it would seem that there is no politics there, but still.))
            1. depressant
              depressant 16 May 2021 23: 26
              +2
              I'll have to look)))
              And you have no idea how it all got tired!
              A month ago, I installed two new meters of hot and cold water, both have already flowed along the joints with pipes, tomorrow I will have to go to the housing office, the plumbers are clumsy, a lot of money has been paid. Nobody knows how to do anything, just to take money. The same minor officials, also recently encountered. I'm really pissed.
              1. Catfish
                Catfish 16 May 2021 23: 47
                +1
                At one time, the issue was solved simply: a whip for plumbers, a camera for an official, a tower for the one who is taller. The Russian land was crumbling.
                1. depressant
                  depressant 17 May 2021 00: 35
                  +3
                  You know, Kostya, for all my gentleness and extreme caution in assessing drastic measures, now and then, here and there, on this occasion, or on another proposed, I seem to quietly reach a state in which I also want to shout: " Yes, you shoot them already, damn it! All these crooked hands! " And then I think, so this is what happens - all in a row? For with correctly grown hands on my life path there was only one person - my father, an officer who knew how to fill the foundation, make windows, doors, cinder blocks, rafters, beams, stairs, block the roof, taught me to knead concrete, plaster, and we together with him, in fact, together they rebuilt their two-story house. The one that I once had in a past life. And these are nobody and nothing in life, and there is no way to call them, and there are plumbers, officials ... And then, strangled by anger, I began to think. After all, I, too, may seem clumsy to someone. Its walls were never finished, the kitchen, which had been flooded many times by the neighbors, was a shabby collapse. Well, how is there someone else besides me who thinks so and shouts like that? Like, all the inept - to the wall! And he will point a finger at me. Under the new housing law is eligible. Well, if so, then so be it. Only I do not pass off my ineptitude, or rather, illness and fatigue from life, as a professional skill and I don’t take money from anyone.
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 17 May 2021 01: 12
                    +1
                    Yes, you will not be envied, with your mood. Sometimes it also rolls over me, but very rarely, after all, after several operations, I turned into a "clumsy" - I cannot, this cannot be done, but life goes on and I am grateful to her that I live, I can see my children, chat with friends, although this now happens, unfortunately, not so often. And next to my beloved woman, with whom we are not tired of each other, despite the years passed. Probably, it's easier for me than for you. Yes, and somehow I try not to dwell on all the minuses of this life, they are not worth it. smile
                2. your1970
                  your1970 17 May 2021 12: 34
                  0
                  Quote: Sea Cat
                  At one time, the issue was solved simply: a whip for plumbers, a camera for an official, a tower for the one who is taller. The Russian land was crumbling.

                  Oha .. Then we looked around ourselves, and where is everyone ???? !!!!
                  For example, none of the leaders of the security agencies - the Cheka / OGPU / NKVD / MGB - retired and died a natural death ... And what? The result - The glorious KGB slept through the collapse of the USSR ...

                  And yes, already now we have a lot of vacancies in the field for which there are no people ...
                  The people do not want to work under the threat of the camera for some reason ...
                  The vacancy of the chief architect of the district has been hanging for 2 years already, the department of land use and property - 2 specialists - a year vacant ..
                  1. Catfish
                    Catfish 17 May 2021 13: 18
                    0
                    And yes, already now we have a lot of vacancies in the field for which there are no people ...


                    Hello, Sergey. hi Where is such a "sweet life"? smile

                    In our country, for example, none of the leaders of the security agencies - the Cheka / OGPU / NKVD / MGB - retired and died a natural death.


                    Besides Lawrence, I can't remember anyone. We were dying from various diseases before the deadline, yes, because this is the job. laughing

                    And that the country was pumped - that's for sure.
                    1. your1970
                      your1970 17 May 2021 18: 54
                      0
                      Peters / Unshlikht / Yagoda / Yezhov / Merkulov / Beria / Abakumov - 9 grams each

                      Ogoltsov - miraculously jumped out, deprived of everything: "By the decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR on June 8, 1959, he was deprived of the rank of lieutenant general" as having discredited himself during his work in the bodies ... and unworthy in this regard to the high rank of general. "

                      Kruglov - everything is very muddy with death, deprived of everything: "In 1959 he was deprived of his general's pension and evicted from an elite apartment, and on June 6, 1960, he was expelled from the party for" involvement in political repression. "

                      Quote: Sea Cat
                      Hello, Sergey. Where is such a "sweet life"?
                      - Trans-Volga
                      1. Catfish
                        Catfish 17 May 2021 18: 58
                        0
                        Thank you. I was referring precisely to the chairmen of this "office".
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 15 May 2021 16: 55
    -2
    Isn't it time comrades Boshirov and Petrov to be disciplined and reprimanded with a warning about incomplete official compliance? Something too they have a lot of punctures in their work.

    Why a lot? There was a warehouse in the Czech Republic with 152 mm shells and there is no warehouse, there was a warehouse in the Ukraine and there is no warehouse.
    It can be assumed that the doctor was really lost for a reason, and those who were the first to shout about the next victim knew that there would be a victim, but ... The doctor suddenly turned out to be alive. And what they did there in Omsk - this is unlikely to tell us.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 15 May 2021 17: 02
    +4
    When there are no sensations / scandals, they are invented, attracting facts / events by the ears.
  • Double major
    Double major 15 May 2021 17: 16
    +3
    The topic of the application of the Novice against the doctor is not disclosed ...
  • pytar
    pytar 15 May 2021 17: 26
    -1
    I was convinced that the etching of the Skripals was a notion / not very successful / of British intelligence. So I thought, right up to the appearance of these two characters at Simonyan! It was a real failure! In every way! It would be better if they didn't show at all!

    After this disastrous trick, few people in the world had doubts that these guys really did what they were accused of. And then the invented next "feats" for Petrov and Bashirov do not look like! yes
    In that sense, it becomes clear tactics of rus-media, to turn these stories into a comic parody! lol For domestic consumption, probably the best approach. hi
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 15 May 2021 18: 54
      +3
      Yes, have you seen them ??? ¿
      1. pytar
        pytar 15 May 2021 19: 15
        -1
        I would not have seen them, but now they themselves were highlighted by Simonyan! lol The whole world saw, it was hard not to notice them ... bully
    2. Phil77
      Phil77 15 May 2021 18: 55
      +2
      There are no them at all !!!!!
      1. pytar
        pytar 15 May 2021 19: 18
        -5
        Yes? They appeared, recited poorly taught remarks and were no longer shown! And rightly so, otherwise they are clearly no actors. lol
        1. Fitter65
          Fitter65 16 May 2021 02: 01
          +4
          Quote: pytar
          otherwise they are clearly no actors.

          Well, compared to the secret services of Great Britain and the Czech Republic, they are great actors.
          1. pytar
            pytar 16 May 2021 10: 44
            0
            Well, compared to the secret services of Great Britain and the Czech Republic, they are great actors.

            Judging by the results, duo Petrov & Bashirov very mediocre actors. They learned how to blow up - I put a peter, to poison - a three, but as actors - a poor! They had to take at least an initial acting course before going out to the public! lol
            1. Fitter65
              Fitter65 16 May 2021 12: 01
              +2
              Quote: pytar
              Judging by the results, the duo Petrov & Bashirov are very mediocre actors. They learned how to blow up - I put a peter, to poison - a three, but as actors - a poor! They had to take at least an initial acting course before going out to the public!
              Judging by the results, then you in Europe should learn to think at least at the level of a Russian first-grader. And then such a Novice show was arranged, it's funny to watch. It's the same with explosions ...
              1. pytar
                pytar 16 May 2021 13: 56
                -2
                Judging by the results, then you in Europe should learn to think at least at the level of a Russian first-grader.

                I think it's more important not to stay at the level of a first grader! lol And I wish you this! hi
                1. Fitter65
                  Fitter65 16 May 2021 15: 07
                  0
                  Quote: pytar
                  I think it's more important not to stay at the level of a first grader! And I wish you this!

                  With your proofs at the level of "Haili Likli" (from the English highly likely - "highly likely", "very likely", "most likely"), you do not even reach the level of our first-graders. hi
                  1. pytar
                    pytar 16 May 2021 16: 09
                    -2
                    With your proofs at the level of "Haili Likli" (from the English highly likely - "highly likely", "very likely", "most likely"), you do not even reach the level of our first-graders.

                    The funniest thing about the case is that it was the disastrous TV antics of our P&B characters that finally convinced everyone that highly likely, and there is the truth (true). laughing What remains to be done? As another famous actor says "understood and forgiven". lol Apparently in special schools it is necessary to teach a course on acting.
                    About the level of people of your lifestyle, pious believers in the mantra "this is not us", I will refrain from defining, but to observe the rules of the site. hi
                    1. Dart2027
                      Dart2027 16 May 2021 16: 48
                      0
                      Quote: pytar
                      The funniest thing about the case is that

                      it is forbidden for intelligence officers (all over the world) to light up on the camera. So if they were scouts, they would not have given any interviews.
                      1. pytar
                        pytar 16 May 2021 18: 49
                        -1
                        intelligence officers (all over the world) are not allowed to light on the camera. So that (1) be they scoutsthen (2) they would not give any interview.

                        From (1) follows (2), but from (2) does not follow (1)! laughing But, there is a minor detail! P&B have lit up before! Came on TV with this comic version of the spiers after they were uncovered! A spy is revealed, already out of the game. He failed, he can be told fairy tales. bully
                      2. Dart2027
                        Dart2027 16 May 2021 19: 03
                        0
                        Quote: pytar
                        P&B have lit up before!

                        Before that, there were some muddy photographs, don't understand who.
                      3. pytar
                        pytar 16 May 2021 19: 53
                        -1
                        Before that, there were some muddy photographs, don't understand who.

                        You obviously did not look closely at the interview with Simonyan. Our P. and B. confirmed that it was they, but allegedly "they were walking for a tourist", there are really interesting spiers there! laughing
                      4. Fitter65
                        Fitter65 17 May 2021 01: 00
                        0
                        Quote: pytar
                        You obviously did not look closely at the interview with Simonyan. Our P. and B. confirmed that it was they, but allegedly "they were walking for a tourist", there are really interesting spiers there!

                        Yes, in an interview with Simonyan, they showed how they smeared the door handles with the Novice, sprinkled the driveways to the house, watered the nearby lawns with Novichok ... As the hero of one Soviet film said, you need to eat.
                      5. pytar
                        pytar 17 May 2021 08: 59
                        0
                        Yes, in an interview with Simonyan, they showed how they smeared the door handles with the Novice, sprinkled the driveways to the house, watered the nearby lawns with Novichok ... As the hero of one Soviet film said, you need to eat.

                        Have you already had a snack? bully So listen! Do you think P&B are regular idle tourists? Why flatly refuse to accept that there is a special service in Russia, performing physical elimination of enemies, traitors and other operations on the territory of other countries? Here Israel, USA, GB operate in this way all over the world! You will say about the Skripals "Who are they, who are they interested in ?!"... But VVP itself in one of the interviews, when asked "what cannot be forgiven", answered "betrayal"! Why do you think that the explosions in warehouses in the Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Ukraine have no connection with these services? Indeed, from the point of view of the then situation, for the Russian Federation very good. was it important to reduce to the maximum the combat potential of the Ukrainian army, to limit the supply of ammunition for it? Everything is logical, and mind you, I do not deny the right of the Russian Federation to hold such special events! To war as to war! On an unusual war, like this! hi
                      6. your1970
                        your1970 17 May 2021 12: 39
                        0
                        Quote: pytar
                        Have you already had a snack? So listen! According to your P&B ordinary idle tourists?

                        No, damn it, the Terminators are iron !!!!
                        Otherwise, the first ones who would have died from the Newbie would have been a bottle in which Allegedly was kept by the Newbie and which the British showed - FACTORY (!!!!) leaky (!!!!).
                        Do you understand? They themselves would have had enough in the first place - even BEFORE England
                      7. pytar
                        pytar 17 May 2021 16: 10
                        0
                        Otherwise, the first ones who would have died from the Novice would be they are the bottle in which the Novice was kept and which the British showed - FACTORY (!!!!) leaky (!!!!).

                        Sergey, you obviously do not know! Ninna Ricci's Premier Jour bottle on display to the police is not the original "rookie" bottle. British law enforcement called it a "specially adapted" fake, demo!
                        And the one in which the "Novice" was, is stored in a special hermetic chamber with the rest of the evidence. It only looks like the Premier Jour, it is a special purpose device. There and a specific nebulizer, aerosol gets to the point.
                        I remember in the 80s our special services used an umbrella firing micro-granules with poison. With such a device was killed dissident Georgy Markov, in London. Now this umbrella is in the museum, the history has long been publicly known. In general, there are a huge number of special-purpose devices that are used by special services. hi
                      8. your1970
                        your1970 17 May 2021 18: 58
                        -1
                        the difference between an umbrella prick and SPRAYER !!! - like heaven and earth.
                        It is primitively simple to apply a solid poison to the point, to spray a poisonous substance without at least gas mask - nonsense...
                      9. pytar
                        pytar 17 May 2021 19: 52
                        0
                        The Question Umbrella is a miniature air gun that fires a microscopic platinum ball from ricin channels. The device was made by the Soviet KGB. Georgy Markov felt a slight prick, but did not pay attention, which cost him his life.
                        As for the methods of using different types of "beginner", there are a lot of them. There is no need to spray, then it will not get into the air. A micro-droplet with a thick consistency from the dispenser is enough, it sticks like honey to the surface. If the manipulation continues for several minutes and if basic safety rules are followed, the risk to the agent is minimal.
                      10. your1970
                        your1970 17 May 2021 20: 41
                        -1
                        Quote: pytar
                        If the manipulation continues for several minutes and if basic safety rules are followed, the risk to the agent is minimal.
                        -chemical warfare agent + a few minutes= minimal risk ???? Are you serious ??? okay, God bless him ...
                        The bottle with the traces of the Novice is dragged around the planes by Navalny's employees - strangely enough, there are no corpses ...
                        Or the "creepy and terrible Novice" is safe at the level of poison for cockroaches - don't take gloves plus in your mouth / rinse your eyes - if you get it ???
                      11. pytar
                        pytar 17 May 2021 21: 08
                        0
                        Here you have to endure a whole lecture. laughing But if you were really interested, I have no doubt you would have learned a lot more. As I understand it, you do not want to know, because the conclusion is not made on the knowledge base, they contradict those that you like best. Okay. Closed the topic.
                      12. your1970
                        your1970 17 May 2021 22: 47
                        -1
                        The mediocre special services made a mediocre poison that did not kill anyone, which is detected easily enough and does not disintegrate in the body (in Julia it did not decompose in 18 days), and for this they sent two mediocrities who could not even smear the door handle - without being lit ???
                        well, if you want so - as much as you like ... believe ... your will ...

                        In Salisbury, apparently everyone who lies down on the bench is immediately examined for chemical warfare agents ... it's obvious, what drugs / booze / heart attacks are - only Newbie, exclusively ...
                        but in Amesbury - for some reason treated victims of drug addiction ... they treated them for a long time, several days ...

                        And yet, traces of the Novice were found in two places visited by the Skripals - this can only mean one thing - that the dosage of the poison was crazy by volume. Otherwise, the traces would simply not have been found, they would have simply been wiped out in a few days by the cleaners, waiters and visitors. Where else, by the way, are corpses from these places?

                        The will is yours, but if they were drunk with the usual purgen lol lol - the probability of death would be much higher than from the "Novichok" BOV

                        ZY
                        Well, if Skripal had interfered with the Russian Federation in some way, he would have sat further, without any pardon ... all the way ... he still had a lot to sit ...
                      13. pytar
                        pytar 18 May 2021 09: 40
                        0
                        Novice-based drugs are very effective, but extremely difficult to accurately dose. You bet more, the obyekt will die, but traces will remain for more time than necessary. You put less, there will be no trace, but there is no guarantee that the object will die. Moreover, there is no way to calculate in advance the optimal dose for a particular person. Look for information about this substance, or rather, it is a whole group of substances. You will learn a lot of interesting things, and perhaps understand how it fits in with what happened in recent years.
                      14. your1970
                        your1970 18 May 2021 10: 29
                        -1
                        You yourself do you hear ????
                        Quote: pytar
                        You bet more, the obyekt will die, but traces will remain for more time than necessary.

                        Quote: your1970
                        does not disintegrate in the body (Yulia did not decompose in 18 days),

                        18 (!!!!!!!) days the poison was fixed in the body !!!! But at the same time the victim is alive !!!!
                        Quote: pytar
                        You put less, there will be no trace, but there is no guarantee that the object will die.

                        Here either / or - either there is little poison / the victim is alive / the poison is not recorded, or there is a lot of poison / the victim is dead / the poison is recorded.
                        The victim is alive with a large amount of poison - nonsense ...
                        Z. Y.
                        Purgen would clearly be more reliable
                      15. pytar
                        pytar 18 May 2021 10: 45
                        0
                        I can hear myself perfectly, but you are not reading carefully! laughing
                        Moreover, it is not how to pre-calculate the optimal dose for a particular person.

                        The problem of a beginner is that the body of different people reacts very differently. There are very good videos and articles on the topic. It would be wiser than arguing. bully
                      16. your1970
                        your1970 18 May 2021 15: 15
                        -1
                        To argue with you is really pointless on this issue. You have decided everything for yourself, to give you any facts - it's no use wasting time ...
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 17 May 2021 20: 05
    0
    Quote: pytar
    ours P. and B. confirmed that it was they

    That is, before this interview, their faces were unknown.
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 17 May 2021 00: 53
    0
    Quote: pytar
    As for the level of people of your lifestyle, religiously believers in the mantra "this is not us", I will refrain from defining, but to observe the rules of the site

    I will also refrain from defining the intellectually level of development of people of your lifestyle, who piously believe in the mantra - "they are", but only to observe the rules of the site. hi
    1. pytar
      pytar 17 May 2021 09: 03
      0
      I will also refrain from defining the intellectually level of development of people of your lifestyle, religiously believers in the mantra - "they are"

      You are doing the right thing! Because I am for the difference from you, I do not just believe, but I turn on the logic! yes
    2. Fitter65
      Fitter65 17 May 2021 12: 21
      0
      Quote: pytar
      Because I am for the difference from you, I do not just believe, but I turn on the logic!

      You and logic are not compatible things. Just read about the use of chemical warfare agents, in particular about the same newbie, about how he is used, how long he can hold out in the open air. And how people without gas masks and chemical suits went and used him against Skripal. Skripal is also hard to read about how he ended up in the UK.
      In 2006, he was convicted in Russia for high treason in the form of espionage for the British special services and was stripped of his military rank. Since 2010, after a pardon and an exchange of imprisoned spies between Russia and the United States, he has been living in Great Britain, where he received citizenship, while retaining Russian citizenship.
      For 4 years in the zone, anything could have happened to him, without any of your illogical poisoning, why pull the donkey by the ears when the rabbit was there?
      Quote: pytar
      Here Israel, USA, GB operate in this way all over the world!

      Well, the whole world knows this, and so what? They want by hook or by crook to drag Russia into their club of bandits-lawless people, but everything somehow turns out to be crooked - the word does not come out at all. And if the countries you cited are engaged in bezpridelschinoy all over the world, it does not mean that Russia is also bezpredelit. So let's not insult our country with your dirty and baseless speculations. As there will be proofs, write right away. And at the expense of explosions in warehouses that belonged to a citizen of Bulgaria, the question is from the other side. It is possible that these explosions destroyed evidence of the sale of weapons to terrorist organizations operating around the world. After all, as we know in recent years, various terrorist groups have acquired a very large number of weapons, which were sold by Bulgarian "businessmen". About how Ukrainian lads sell weapons right and wrong. only the lazy didn’t read. So there is nothing to blame on the mirror, if the face is crooked ...
    3. pytar
      pytar 17 May 2021 14: 22
      +1
      You and logic are not compatible things.

      Said the person does not understand the very concept of LOGIC! laughing
      the same newbie, about how it is applied, how long it can hold out in the open air. And how people went and used without gas masks and chemical suits ..

      A newcomer is a whole group of organophosphates. Different actions, different uses. As he seemed in the World Bank, the whole world became aware, almost to the smallest details. bully
      For 4 years in the zone, anything could have happened to him, without any of your illogical poisoning, why pull the donkey by the ears when the rabbit was there?

      The authorities of the Russian Federation bear direct responsibility for the convict while he is in the zone. Therefore, it is not allowed there. And in a foreign country, yours seems to be useless ... Very convenient, you still deny it!
      And if the countries you cited are engaged in bezpridelschinoy all over the world, it does not mean that Russia is also bezpredelit.

      Alexander, the intelligence services of all countries are conducting special operations! Do you seriously believe that the Russians are an exception?
      So let's not insult our country with your dirty and baseless speculations.

      Alexey, not a single gram of offense! Quite the opposite, I see that after the crisis in the 90s, Russia. the secret service has been restored and are working! Of course, this is a delicate, vague matter, there are no failures, but no one is perfect!
      As there will be proofs, write right away.

      The evidence is public, it's up to you what to believe.
      And at the expense of explosions in warehouses that belonged to a citizen of Bulgaria, the question is from the other side.

      Ooooh, I despise this citizen with all my heart! negative Gebrev, an extremely controversial personality, does not command any respect!
    4. Fitter65
      Fitter65 17 May 2021 14: 55
      0
      Quote: pytar
      A newcomer is a whole group of organophosphates. Different actions, different uses. As he seemed in the World Bank, the whole world became aware, almost to the smallest details.

      "Novichok" (eng. Novichok, Novichok agent) - a family of organofluorophosphorus nitrogen-organic toxic agents of nerve action. Developed as chemical warfare agents in the USSR and Russia from the early 1970s to the early 1990s], as well as, for research purposes, in several NATO countries
      How did the "newbie" end up in the UK? For "research purposes" it was produced at the Military Chemical Laboratory in Salisbury, where Skripal lived.
      Quote: pytar
      The authorities of the Russian Federation bear direct responsibility for the convict while he is in the zone. Therefore, it is not allowed there. And in a foreign country, yours seems to be useless ... Very convenient, you still deny it!
      An accident with a convict in the zone - at best, they will scold the head of the detachment. It is quieter and easier than running around in a gas mask and chemical kit and smearing with a "newbie" handles, doors and benches in the vicinity. By the way, as there is not a single CCTV camera. not a single passer-by tracked the "saboteurs" in the OZK?
      Quote: pytar
      Ooooh, I despise this citizen with all my heart! Gebrev, an extremely controversial personality, does not command any respect!

      Well, I personally don't care about your likes and dislikes, just like you do my opinion about Skripal.
      Quote: pytar
      The evidence is public, it's up to you what to believe.

      There is no public evidence, not a single one. Except for unfounded accusations. What level of intelligence do you need to have in order to believe that the Combat Poisoning Substance can be transported in a perfume bottle? Although even in the EU there are relatively adequate people.
      Milos Zeman: Warehouses in Vrbetica could explode due to an attempt to hide the lack of ammunition
      The Spanish National Court of Justice has closed an investigation into Russian interference in the activities of separatists from Catalonia. Writes about this edition of El Diario.
    5. pytar
      pytar 17 May 2021 16: 19
      +1
      You know, I have no intention of convincing you. Recently, a friend told me about one of her colleagues. She accepts the goods, makes a list and put signatures on each page. Wrong in quantities, it happens, no one is without sins. But when the disassembly began, she says - "Yes, I accepted the goods, yes, I wrote the list, but the signatures are not mine and where the mistakes are, I did not write." Since no one else is involved with this, they also did an examination - it turned out that everything was written and she definitely did the signatures! Oh no! Keeps on repeating - "signatures are not mine and mistakes are not mine!" laughing
    6. Fitter65
      Fitter65 18 May 2021 00: 00
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      And what has the product and signatures to do with it? you do not confuse warm with white. It's one thing to announce and it's another to show evidence. Just tell me how they could use a chemical warfare agent without personal protective equipment? I don’t need to persuade me, I need clear proofs, and not this tradeswoman of yours, “Yes, everyone in the world does that”, “Putin said that traitors are not forgiven” ... Not evidence, but golimous bullshit ... By the way, how and with explosions. One of the accused, the roofing felts drove past the hotel where they settled, the "saboteurs", the roofing felts stopped. But not a single confirmation that he met with them. or the fact that they were at the facility, or near it, and not 30-40 km from ... Such normal evidence. On the other hand, what you want with such an approach can be attributed to them now - the same Fokushima. Russia borders on Japan, and Petrov and Bashirov were just in Russia at that time - a fact? Fact! What other proof do you need? The explosion in Lebanon is also they. Lebanon where is located on planet Earth! Petrov and Bashirov at that time were on the same planet? Definitely on earth! Here you have proven their guilt in the explosion in Lebanon. The only assassination of Kennedy cannot be attributed to them, at that moment there were no 1000% of them on the planet ...
    7. pytar
      pytar 18 May 2021 09: 21
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      And what does the product and signature have to do with it?

      In the similarity of mentality in people who deny the obvious things.
      It's one thing to announce and it's another to show evidence.

      So everything is! You may not be happy with it, usually the perpetrators always deny everything.
      Just tell me how they could use a chemical warfare agent without personal protective equipment?

      Same substance / novices whole group neg. substances / can be used in different ways. If it is like a combat one, it must be sprayed with an aerosol to cover large areas. Then the really needed LEDs. And if you need a point, then you just need to stick a drop, for example, on the door. That's enough for a special bottle, gloves, a mask. The consistency of the substance with this application is honey-like, sticky, not volatile. The agent will not get on the skin, he will not exhale it.
      I will give a simple example from a conventional herbicide! Glyphosate - used against weeds. The substance is very dangerous for humans! Applying it squarely, I use a knapsack sprinkler to spray with an aerosol. I put on a protective raincoat, put on a mask, glasses, gloves. The consistency of the joint is diluted, volatile.
      But when I want to destroy a specific bush, so as not to affect the neighboring ones, I only put on gloves, take a brush and lightly brush a few leaves from a jar. That's it, the bush is ready, the others are intact! Elementary! bully
      "Putin said that traitors are not forgiven" ... By the way, as with the explosions. One of the accused, the roofing felts drove past the hotel where they settled, the "saboteurs", the roofing felts stopped ...

      Are there any motives? There is! Were these gentlemen around the place of events and during the events? There were! With fake passports! Are they identified? Yes! Besides, they themselves disgraced themselves on TV later! By the way, one of the people involved in the persecution of Gebrev was captured on surveillance cameras at the moment when he was smearing the door of the victim's car. The questionnaire agent managed to retreat to the Russian Federation literally an hour before the police followed in their footsteps!
      Such normal evidence.

      The evidence is quite normal! In Russia, on the basis of such, a foreign agent / if he did not have time to escape / would definitely go to jail! Everything else you write is lyrics, an attempt to blur situations. And for some reason in the world, few people believe you. And so at home, of course, you can tell fairy tales, like "the earth is flat." lol
    8. Fitter65
      Fitter65 18 May 2021 12: 10
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      Quote: pytar
      By the way, one of the people involved in the persecution of Gebrev was captured on surveillance cameras at the moment when he was smearing the door of the victim's car.

      Cool, was the agent at least dressed in the OZK? Or, too, gloves, a cloak and a mask? For you in Europe. maybe normal, for us in Russia not. Once again I explain if the death of Skripal was needed, he could 365 X4 in the zone would be bent, options. from choking on a cookie, to falling down the stairs ...
      The Bulgarian Prosecutor's Office released the names of three Russian citizens accused of poisoning Bulgarian businessman Emilian Gebrev
      Ha ha ha, we take more Great Britain and it turns out that"The haberdasher and the Cardinal are power!" with you in Russia soon and there will be no one to work, all the special agents of the GRU will be. laughing laughing laughing ,
      Quote: pytar
      Were these gentlemen around the place of events and during the events? There were!

      So I say that they rushed to Fokushima, and in Lebanon they too. About the Czechs with explosions in their factories that occur every six months or a year, even ashamed to speak. And your land has long been flat, like Russia is to blame for everything ..
      Quote: pytar
      So everything is! You may not be happy with it, usually the perpetrators always deny everything.
      You can then lead this useless in all respects chatter as much as you want, only once again with your proofs just to go to the impetus. In Europe, this may be enough, because there is a very strong "presumption of innocence", the main thing is to appoint the guilty one, and let him prove his innocence ... By the way, all the agents of the GRU, agents of the GRU. And in Russia there is a GRU and no, but there is
      The Main Directorate of the General Staff of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation is the foreign intelligence body of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation and the central intelligence body of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation;
  • aries2200
    aries2200 15 May 2021 17: 47
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    perfectly put the propagandists of Goebbels .... more often so in the toilet with the head of the crap liberals !!!
  • Alsur
    Alsur 15 May 2021 18: 35
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    Quote: parusnik
    Where to laugh? Why am I asking, here they talk about the media, about the anxiety of some, some people, I honestly forgot not whom, but I don’t know anyone. Salt, what? For those who know the situation, people, it will be funny. Although over what? One got lost in the forest, others died ..

    The fact that some are ready to blame for all sins without reason, just out of duty. Not biased journalists would have waited for at least news of the fate of the lost. If he died, then you need to wait for the results of the conclusion about death, and only then it would be possible to build some kind of theory.
    And here the accusation of all sins at once and irrevocably. Who then will believe these media about the situation with Navalny?
    Don't you understand the message of the article.
    1. pytar
      pytar 18 May 2021 14: 48
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      Cool, was the agent at least dressed in the OZK? Or, too, gloves, a cloak and a mask? For you in Europe. maybe normal, for us in Russia not.

      Gloves, glasses, hat, small handbag over the shoulder. It is quite normal, except for the gloves that he put on when entering Subtitle. garage. Identified as Denis Sergeev with the pseudonym Sergei Fedotov. Came to BG 4 days before the poisoning, left on the day Gebrev got into a coma in the hospital.
      I have already said about the Skripals. A question of responsibility, absolutely and unmistakably.
      Ha-ha-ha ... with you in Russia soon and there will be no one to work, everyone will be in the special agents of the GRU.

      Ha ha ha, in view of your succession of failures, maybe it will! laughing By the way, not in the subject, but at the parade this year you only had Berdimugamedov! 15 years ago, if I am not mistaken, there were more than 60 foreign delegations! This says a lot!
      So I say that they rushed to Fokushima, and in Lebanon they too. About Czechs with explosions ... And your land is flat for a long time, like Russia is to blame for everything ..

      Yes, you can say whatever you want, but the Earth will not become flat anyway! laughing
      You can do this useless in all respects chatter as much as you like ...

      Okay, I confess! laughing By and large, this dialogue was purely informative. Interesting from the point of view of psychology. Be healthy! All the best to you, Alexey! hi
  • Phil77
    Phil77 15 May 2021 18: 52
    -3
    What nonsense! Who are you to bury us? What are you? Generation recall? Who are you? Purely in life? It's interesting! And in general, finish in life, friend.! It is different for everyone! Et, okay?
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 15 May 2021 19: 05
      -3
      I mean faith, but in general, don't touch faith! Absolutely and forever! No need. Nobody. Is that clear?
  • Sfurei
    Sfurei 15 May 2021 21: 16
    +1
    Roman, thanks, amused. It is necessary to sometimes troll the seekers of conspiracies against humanity (Navalny), otherwise they will become arrogant))))
  • bandabas
    bandabas 15 May 2021 21: 17
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    More ksyusha, nyusha, oli and fili to the appendage. And, a gathering of the government, the SovFed and the State Duma. Full compress!
  • bk0010
    bk0010 15 May 2021 22: 32
    +2
    The doctor came out of the forest, but the witnesses in the Hillary case did not come to life ...
  • Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 15 May 2021 23: 34
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    Does someone bury you? ..
    If not, then my flaw ...
    Tell me, when do you want to give your soul to God? Come to us ... But I can't guarantee that your guys with yellow-blue stripes won't overwhelm you ...
  • Nadrub
    Nadrub 16 May 2021 07: 46
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    Well, screeching from nothing is the key point of the current media :))
    Aaaa !!!
    You will fall right now, gasp, do not believe urgently lightning, etc.
    You must somehow hook an individual who is chewing a sandwich in the morning :)))
    Market competition, who yells louder is more noticeable.
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  • BAI
    BAI 16 May 2021 12: 56
    +1
    Isn't it time comrades Boshirov and Petrov to be disciplined and reprimanded with a warning about incomplete official compliance? Something too they have a lot of punctures in their work.

    And I would give orders. Everywhere they have time. Some of both the GRU and the Foreign Intelligence are being puffed up.
  • Oberleutnant
    Oberleutnant 16 May 2021 16: 59
    +1
    Novel! Great article with a lot of humor. In Germany, they immediately took up this case and immediately fell silent a day later. Greetings from Germany!
  • magdama
    magdama 20 May 2021 10: 07
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    It is interesting to watch you from Siberia, guys, Muscovites. No Motherland, no Fatherland, no President, no Moscow region, no Crimea, no Siberia ... one COMP. And on your computer - the whole world ... but no one is waiting for you there. Your Motherland - Russia is waiting for you. Think life is ONE, there won't be another.