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"Big mistake and stupidity": a Polish officer reacted to the publicly available data on the construction of intelligence centers near the borders of the Russian Federation and Belarus

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Polish observer Lukasz Maziewski writes in the O2 edition about the reaction of servicemen to the publicly available information about the construction of military facilities near the borders of Belarus and Russia. The publication notes that the military drew attention to how plans to create such an object of the Polish army appeared on the network a few months ago.


What objects are we talking about?

According to the latest data, these are military facilities, the creation of which is envisaged by the following program of the Ministry of Defense of Poland: "Construction of a combat position with accompanying infrastructure for the needs of the Center for Recognition and Support of Electronic Warfare in the city of Grojec and in the Eastern Voivodeships."

Maciej Matysiak, former deputy head of the Polish Military Counterintelligence Service, now an expert at the Stratpoints Foundation:

It turns out that we are openly talking about the creation of intelligence centers, about a military station for electronic monitoring and wiretapping. This (discussion of information in an open mode) should be excluded.

It is noted that local officials themselves posted publicly the data on the creation of a center for electronic intelligence and wiretapping of military communications in Grojec and on the eastern borders of Poland.

In particular, it is noted that for the facilities of such a center, sites have been prepared in the direction of Ruzhan-Bialystok and Ruzhan-Olshtyn (in the first case, it is a few tens of kilometers from the Belarusian border), in the second - not far from the border with Russia (Kaliningrad direction).




Information about the plans for such a construction was posted on the website of the regional administration of infrastructure in Olsztyn.

Lukasz Maziewski, referring to Polish experts, writes that, among other things, a rather detailed work plan with the numbers of plots for construction was presented in the public domain.

From the material:

A potential adversary could have learned from the documentation details such as the distances between buildings and their location, as well as the location of floodlights and outdoor cameras on the fence.

There is also a commentary by a Polish counterintelligence officer:

On this occasion, I have only one word - stupidity. This is a big mistake. How could such data be published in the public domain?

Now in Poland they are calling for punishment of those guilty of publishing data on intelligence centers in the open access.
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Polish Ministry of Defense
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  1. skif8013
    skif8013 11 May 2021 09: 57
    +3
    A chatterbox is a find for a spy) Probably our specialists irradiated them, so they turned in, flogged)
    1. novel66
      novel66 11 May 2021 10: 07
      +19
      again they ????
      1. skif8013
        skif8013 11 May 2021 10: 14
        +3
        Class. Pleased)
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 11 May 2021 12: 28
          +7
          the appearance in the public domain of information about the construction of military facilities near the borders of Belarus and Russia. The publication notes that the military drew attention to how plans to create such an object of the Polish army appeared on the network a few months ago.

          In fact, the official "Great" Poland, without hiding, has long been preparing for a new war with Russia and Belarus. And with Ukraine too.

          And "Drang nach Octen!" - i.e. the aspiration of the "great noble" Polish lords to the East and the re-establishment of the Commonwealth "from Mozha to Mozha" have long been on the agenda of the Polish Nazis. Ever since the time of Pilsudski.

          Burning Poles in Hell - that's for sure!
          1. mojohed2012
            mojohed2012 11 May 2021 13: 13
            +1
            And burn hotter!
            And the centers are the primary targets at the beginning of the war!
            Whose equipment will be put there? Polish? And Poland is the leader of the electronic warfare systems? Or maybe friends from Asashay will sit there, which is more likely!
            Poland is a bargaining chip. The concentration of troops and the creation of storage bases for equipment with equipment / jump airfields is an attempt by the United States to use non-strategic methods to provide the first disarming strike against us or to minimize our strike potential.
            Oh well...
          2. Murrr 27
            Murrr 27 11 May 2021 22: 22
            +2
            Dreams of restoring Pshekia "From Mozha to Mozha" have been running among the convolutions of Pshetsky's brains since they profiled the "Grand Duchy of Lithuania" because of their show-offs, that is, for 200+ years. And all these years, they think that all European countries are asleep and dreaming about how they enter the European War for the restoration of Greater Poland. But, since for a long time already "steam in the beep (show-off) came out" - of course nothing happens, and it will not work. And Pilsudski was just worried - "What will happen to Poland when I die." It was not in vain that he worried, he knew pshek firsthand.
            By the way, another "charming" property of those who enjoy an inferiority complex (due to real inferiority) is that it is very easy to motivate them to betray (which we saw in the 80s on the example of Solidarity ... yes, now this is no longer believe it - and after all, then Poland had a strong shipbuilding industry)
            And it is not in vain that our damned Western "friends" have relied on Poland - they have not deceived their expectations psheki.
          3. PROVINCIAL
            PROVINCIAL 12 May 2021 09: 54
            -1
            Poland can build and have anything on its territory. As is Russia. Your comment is inappropriate.
            1. Tatyana
              Tatyana 12 May 2021 11: 03
              +1
              Quote: PROVINCIAL
              Poland can build and have anything on its territory. As is Russia. Your comment is inappropriate.

              And you suggest that Russia simply notices the preparation of the "great" Polish compradors of Warsaw on the territory of Poland itself for the upcoming PROXY war between the US / Pentagon and Russia in favor of the national interests of the USA, Great Britain ... and not react to it in any way? Then you are very much mistaken!

              Now Washington has not just declared the Cold War on Russia, but the United States is preparing its satellites - including Poland - for the Hot (with the use of lethal weapons) PROXY war with Russia (i.e. not on the territory of the United States itself, but on the territory of others countries, including Poland).

              Russia should speak OPEN about this and PREVENT the Poles about a RESPONSE strike, so that the Poles do not pretend to be an allegedly "innocent victim" allegedly from Russian "aggression." Russians will never again feel sorry for and revive the Poles and Poland.

              The condemning and explanatory response of Russia to the actions of the Polish Armed Forces is nothing more than the use by Russia of the so-called. "soft power" to prevent a Hot War with Poland, for example.
              But Poland owes too much money to the US State Department for it to stop.

              It is the post-socialist bourgeois Poland that is the AGGRESSOR - the Polish terrorist-Nazi state - in the colonial harness of serving the Anglo-Saxons: the United States and Great Britain - as it was in WWI, and in WWII, and now.

              For which Leshim do you advocate (whitewash) Poland and the United States? Why do you personally need this?
              1. PROVINCIAL
                PROVINCIAL 13 May 2021 10: 07
                0
                Let's be honest with ourselves. Any state on its territory does what it wants, right? What a howl rises in foreign media when Russia conducts exercises on its territory. The same howl rises among the urapatriots "this is our land, what we want is what we do." So what kind of double standards do we ourselves apply? Poland a state? Placed on their own land? What questions? Or am I wrong? Let's be consistent in the media. Cognitive dissonance may occur to the inexperienced reader.
                PS There are government agencies capable of calculating and giving an adequate answer.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 13 May 2021 10: 50
                  0
                  Quote: PROVINCIAL
                  Let's be honest with ourselves.
                  Here we go!
                  Any state on its territory does what it wants, right? What a howl rises in foreign media when Russia conducts exercises on its territory. The same howl rises among the urapatriots "this is our land, what we want is what we do." So what kind of double standards do we ourselves apply? Poland a state? Placed on their own land? What questions? Or am I wrong?
                  Of course you are wrong. Namely.

                  You consider the causal relationship and the development of events in this matter as a metaphysician in philosophy. For you, both Poland and the Russian Federation are simply IDENTICAL logical concepts of "state" abstracted from the internal content - and nothing more. But from the standpoint of the dialectical-materialist method, this is not at all the case. These states have internal substantive logical differences - and at the same time, Russia does not allow any DOUBLE STANDARDS!
                  DOUBLE standards are just manipulations in Poland and in the collective West. Namely.

                  There is a serious dialectical and geopolitical difference between Poland and the Russian Federation!
                  Russia has no territorial claims to Poland - and is deploying its DEFENSE troops on its territory. And Poland has territorial claims to its eastern neighbors - and is deploying NATO OFFENSIVE troops on its territory under the leadership of the Pentagon and in the hegemonic geopolitical interests of the United States.

                  Bourgeois Poland with its "great noble" paranoid Polish-Nazi idea of ​​reviving its Rzeczpospolita "from Mozha to Mozha" is precisely an AGGRESSOR! The instigator of a new WAR!
                  In other words, as Pilsudski's Poland was, according to Churchill, "the hyena of Europe", since WWI, it has remained so!
                  1. PROVINCIAL
                    PROVINCIAL 14 May 2021 09: 57
                    0
                    I respect your opinion. But there is no need to play with words. Incitement of interethnic hatred, although veiled, does not lead to good. There are specially trained people whose competence is to develop counteraction against unfriendly actions of a number of countries. My message is not to whip up hysteria and hatred of other nations in the media (which includes the Internet). I can analyze information from different sources, and I perfectly understand the essence of the ongoing processes))
                    1. Tatyana
                      Tatyana 14 May 2021 11: 56
                      0
                      Quote: PROVINCIAL
                      I can analyze information from different sources, and I perfectly understand the essence of the ongoing processes))
                      It depends on which method to analyze the information. The methods of thinking in the history of philosophy are very different. Namely.

                      If you, for example, need to manipulate society in someone's interests, then they usually use the metaphysical method - it is akin to idealism, i.e. akin to absolutizing (protruding) something in the form of materialistically and historically unchanging. In metaphysics, it is precisely the metaphysical identity in time that operates, when the concept of a phenomenon in nature and society is always invariable in time, i.e. at all times it is equal to oneself: "a" = "a". In other words, the metaphysical method presupposes in the analysis of phenomena the omissions of various factors, the discreteness of cause-and-effect relationships, which are not comprehensively taken into account, but are explained by subjectively idealistically different interpreters in their favor. Hence the obsolete necessity of the concept of God in theology, as well as Hegel's "Absolute Idea", etc.
                      As a result of metaphysical thinking, your interpretation of facts in your analysis becomes limited, and therefore erroneous, not reliable. At the same time, your analysis cannot be recommended and accepted as a guide to action to defend Russia's national interests. Although it seems correct to you yourself.
                      But for the bourgeois Poles to manipulate public opinion in favor of their revanchist ideas of the revival of the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth, such a metaphysical analysis is extremely beneficial. Because of what I don't even think that you are Russian or Russian.

                      The dialectical-materialistic method is another matter. This is the most perfect method of cognition and thinking in modern philosophy. In diamat there is precisely dialectical identity, when the phenomenon of "a" in time is not equal to itself "a".
                      Unfortunately, since 1986, dialectical studies have ceased to be properly studied, and topics for a thesis for obtaining academic degrees using the dialectical-materialist method were even forbidden "from above" to be issued to applicants for defense. And now diamat has become a "CLOSED scientific technology" for the "uninitiated". Moreover, I did not meet nowadays professors who would have mastered the dialectical-materialistic method in practice with a sign of SKILL in its use.

                      In general, it's like in mathematics. You can know as much as you want about mathematical rules and theorems, but if you do not apply them in practice to solve problems, then your mathematics. knowledge will be simply dead for use - it will turn into an empty educational formality in the form of the crusts of a graduation diploma - and nothing more.
                      Knowledge is when the basic information on a scientific discipline is fixed by the practical solution of typical problems up to obtaining the SKILL of its independent creative use in life.

                      Further, I will not bore you with what I think about the restructuring of Soviet education in the USSR / Russia according to Soros, starting in 1986 ..
                      1. PROVINCIAL
                        PROVINCIAL 15 May 2021 14: 55
                        0
                        Blurred the comment. Not everyone understands your idea. It's not a good idea to hammer a comment in scientific terms. We (I hope)) understand your idea. Do you think the real education system is not perfect? Why?
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    2. Terrible_L.
      Terrible_L. 11 May 2021 10: 35
      +2
      Quote: skif8013
      A chatterbox is a find for a spy) Probably our specialists irradiated them, so they turned over, nоrole)

      Few n visibleоrole of
      1. Alex777
        Alex777 11 May 2021 13: 27
        +3
        The Poles are well aware of what they want for such "centers", they cry, prick, but continue to eat cacti. bully
    3. bk0010
      bk0010 11 May 2021 20: 10
      +2
      Come on, because ours don't know. As for "the distance between buildings and their location, as well as the location of searchlights and external cameras on the fence," Bashirov and Petrov will still have to go to measure with Petrov: you never know what the Poles could mess up with in the documentation.
    4. RealPilot
      RealPilot 11 May 2021 23: 07
      0
      Well, here they have "democracy", and "glasnost", and "open society" with official state purchases!

      And what exactly did they want? They fled from totalitarianism and the evil gebni ... And now they are crying.
  2. novel66
    novel66 11 May 2021 10: 06
    +3
    Enough to make intelligence secret !!! lol
    1. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 11 May 2021 10: 13
      0
      Roma hi Right ! And (price list) the rate of secrets is published on the site Sovsekretno.ru
      1. novel66
        novel66 11 May 2021 10: 15
        +2
        Oh Volodya, hello! hi Effective !!
      2. Captain45
        Captain45 11 May 2021 12: 45
        0
        Quote: Uncle Lee
        Roma Right! And (price list) the rate of secrets to be published on the site Sovsekretno.ru

        You will laugh, but yesterday I read an article about the official website of the SVR (Russian Foreign Intelligence Service). So on the site there is a small button, after clicking on which a proposal appears in English to go to the site (the address is indicated) on the Darknet and report information about threats directed at the Russian Federation, or other information of interest to the SVR. When accessing this site, information is automatically encrypted, transmitted only to the addressee.
        1. dedusik
          dedusik 11 May 2021 14: 21
          0
          Yes, there is a link from the very foundation of the site
          Report Information hi
  3. Ros 56
    Ros 56 11 May 2021 10: 08
    +1
    Some are stupid, and some are information for thinking about counteraction. bully
    1. PN
      PN 11 May 2021 13: 09
      +1
      As a countermeasure along the borders to create mined nuclear burial grounds. Sykotno they will start walking past them to visit us.
      1. Ros 56
        Ros 56 11 May 2021 13: 42
        0
        So you will have to go there past them. Or nothing? Let's say on vacation or on business.
        1. PN
          PN 11 May 2021 13: 54
          0
          Nothing, as long as it is sealed and airtight in peacetime.
  4. Soldatov V.
    Soldatov V. 11 May 2021 10: 39
    -1
    Unfortunately or fortunately, this happens everywhere, in all the armies of the world. Bragging, taking on fright in words is a modern information war. The main thing is that the army (ours) soberly evaluates all this chatter.
  5. APASUS
    APASUS 11 May 2021 11: 42
    +3
    You might think that such a construction can be hidden? And they were engaged in sorting information from the media back in the days of the USSR, a common practice
  6. mikh-korsakov
    mikh-korsakov 11 May 2021 13: 59
    +1
    I read it and it became clear that the local gentry decided to boast of the noble gentry. that we, they say. at the forefront of the fight against Mordor. But two questions arose. Why spotlights? And I realized that this is just in case, so that if something happens to spot Petrov and Boshirov at night - there are many churches in the same area. so it is likely. Well done, Panov!
  7. Turist1996
    Turist1996 11 May 2021 20: 48
    0
    This time neither Petrov nor Boshirov will be accused of anything, or what ?!
    Well, you give, psheki, such a trend has been arranged! And you yourself turn on the "reverse"!
    Oh, exactly! I didn’t understand that in those objects "there will already be bombs! With a" little thing "and charged with" anti-naval "disputes !!!
  8. Anachoret
    Anachoret 12 May 2021 12: 15
    -1
    And these "Polish" journalists, in passing, do not advertise sports nutrition in their article? ))

  9. zenion
    zenion 12 May 2021 17: 26
    +2
    It was again these two spies who inadvertently gave out top-secret information. They cannot work secretly, somewhere in a pub they have drunk pictures and information. They do harm behind the cordon. It is not enough for them that they blow up factories, poison the people and livestock, have connections with the saucers, and they cannot keep their mouths shut.
  10. Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 13 May 2021 09: 20
    +2
    As if it's difficult to keep track of, especially when military installations are contracted by civilian firms.
    Yes, even the objects of the Spetsstroy of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation are not difficult to track from satellites.

    At one time, in one bourgeois car satellite alarm, there was a map indicating the zones where GPS signals and cellular communications were jammed - miraculously, the "dead zones" coincided with the objects of the Ministry of Defense, and special services ... here's the secrecy (apparently Polichinel).
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 13 May 2021 09: 40
      +1
      here's the secrecy (apparently Polichinel)

      At one time, all our "secret" cities by inertia from the 40s were absent on civil maps, which greatly helped to define them as secret in the era of spy satellites. The stupid zeal of our intelligence services only helped.
  11. AC130 Ganship
    AC130 Ganship 13 May 2021 15: 17
    0
    No one has revealed any military secrets here. I served in the 80s in the USSR in a similar unit. Even then, officers showed us American magazines with satellite photos as our shift went to our site at the BD. It is (theoretically) something there in Iran or Montana under the basalt mountain, you can hide something like Zkp. And in an open field ...