President Putin: Our Armed Forces are the heirs of the Victory soldiers

Events dedicated to the 76th anniversary of Victory in the Great Patriotic War are being held in the Russian capital. Before the start of the military parade in honor of this significant date, Vladimir Putin addressed the veterans, active military personnel and all Russians.

The head of state noted that the Victory in the Great Patriotic War was obtained at a huge price. At the same time, the Soviet people for a long period acted against the Nazis virtually alone.

Vladimir Putin stressed that the courage and heroism of the Soviet soldier and the Soviet people made it possible to defeat fascism.

The President of the Russian Federation emphasized that, despite the past 80 years since the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, there are those who are ready to translate destructive ideas into reality.

There is no forgiveness and excuse for those who are again hatching aggressive plans.

According to the president, story requires lessons to be learned.

Many ideas of Nazism, including the delusional idea of ​​exclusivity, are again trying to make it relevant.

Vladimir Putin noted that we are talking not only about international terrorism, but also about the missing punishers.

President of Russia:

Our Armed Forces are the heirs of the soldiers of Victory.

Putin:

Glory to the victorious people! Happy Holidays! Happy Victory Day!

General of the Army Oleg Salyukov is in command of the parade on Red Square. The first in the square were cadets and pupils of various educational institutions, including the Suvorov schools and cadet corps.

President of Tajikistan Emomali Rahmon is present at the Victory Parade in Moscow as a guest.

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[pexotinec]

This parade is the death of NATO and the sha!
The only country that, to the detriment of itself and its people, is trying to make peace on the planet is Russia.

[xorek]

Many ideas of Nazism, including the delusional idea of ​​exclusivity, are again trying to make it relevant.

To the point and here they are constantly trying to humiliate us that we ...
Happy holiday muzhiks of Victory and resilience of the Soviet people, now Russia!
As I remember, they asked one veteran intelligence officer, directly .. And the current generation, how can your generation rise in the event of an invasion? ..
The veteran thought for a minute and firmly said .. They can, they will work at the right time gene of memory, blood .. Just like we did at that time. It's hard to explain ..
This is how things are going in our country .. Nobody is forgotten, Nothing is forgotten.!

[Nikon O'Conor]

Happy Holidays to all the winners and their descendants !!!
Today's holiday was greatly overshadowed by the behavior of the authorities of Orenburg.
On the central square, stands were assembled for only 3 thousand people, they fenced off the square with fences and the police let them go to the concert and parade ONLY BY INVITATION !!!!
The rest of the "ordinary" residents did not see either the parade or the concert, they didn’t even hear it. They turned our common holiday into a get-together for the "elite". Shame. Previously, the parade went from the Eternal Flame to the central square (several kilometers), but now it is ... What a shame, thousands of people walked around the square, but they could neither pass (they didn’t let them in) nor see anything ...
I apologize, but I will copy my comments on branches with a similar theme, I want as many people as possible to know about this sad event.
Tomorrow (today I will not darken the holiday) I will call my uncle in Moscow - let him tell Putin how citizens in Orenburg were divided into friends and foes.
My grandfather, one of the first, drove into Berlin on the T-34 - WITHOUT an invitation !!! Today I could not honor his memory, probably because I am not a member of United Russia ...
Beasts, shameful beasts ...

[aglet]

“Today's holiday has been greatly overshadowed by the behavior of the authorities of the city of Orenburg.
On the central square, stands were assembled for only 3 thousand people, they fenced off the square with fences and the police allowed them to the concert and parade ONLY BY INVITATION !!!! "
Believe it or not, it's the same in Moscow. national holiday of Victory privatized by the cooperative lake

[Nikon O'Conor]

Well, Moscow is a huge city, Krasnaya cannot accommodate everyone, but everyone can see the entrance to the square and the exit of equipment, greet the soldiers ...
In our country, everything was closed, purely on the square, purely for our own people, he had to work and pay taxes, the rest was not for him ...

[aglet]

"In our country, everything happened closed, cleanly in the square, purely for our own people."
do you think it was different in Moscow?
"Well, Moscow is a huge city"
and there are more "own" ones. one bear, which collapsed on the podium, is worth a lot

[Nikon O'Conor]

It's just that it has always been that way in Moscow. And here anyone could come and see and even walk in a column after the troops ... Now we have become second-class people ... Accept the replenishment of Muscovites in your ranks))

[Nikon O'Conor]

a crowd of minus players flew in)) What was it and the minuses of the pedros will not change the opinion of the people))

[venik]

Quote: xorek

To the point and here they are constantly trying to humiliate us that we ...
Happy holiday muzhiks of Victory and resilience of the Soviet people, now Russia!

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ALL - Happy Victory Day! This is OUR Holiday! Celebration of WINNERS! Our Fathers, Grandfathers, Great-grandfathers!
They - WINNERS! And we are their descendants!

[Civil]

1. Not "heirs", but descendants. The inheritance has been successfully privatized.
2. Cossack front box ... survived, have already forgotten about the Cossack units in the Wehrmacht and SS.
3. And what kind of continuity can we talk about - Lenin's Mausoleum was shyly covered.

[Svarog]

Quote: Civil

3. And what kind of continuity can we talk about - Lenin's Mausoleum was shyly covered.

A nation dies when it becomes a population. And it becomes a population when it forgets its history. F. Abramov (1920-1983)
Any denial of the past, any indiscriminate denial of it is evil and delusion. S.L. Frank (1877-1950)
Blessed is he who honors ancestors with a pure heart. J.W. Goethe (1749-1832)

[Machito]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: Civil

3. And what kind of continuity can we talk about - Lenin's Mausoleum was shyly covered.

A nation dies when it becomes a population. And it becomes a population when it forgets its history. F. Abramov (1920-1983)
Any denial of the past, any indiscriminate denial of it is evil and delusion. S.L. Frank (1877-1950)
Blessed is he who honors ancestors with a pure heart. J.W. Goethe (1749-1832)

Volodya, Happy Victory Day !!!
Let's go without politics today. Let's remember the grandfathers and Generalissimo Stalin.

[Svarog]

Quote: Bearded

Volodya, Happy Victory Day !!!
Let's go without politics today. Let's remember the grandfathers and Generalissimo Stalin.

Bearded Man Happy Holidays!
Of course .. let's listen to music ..

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Svarog

A nation dies when it becomes a population. And it becomes a population when it forgets its history. F. Abramov (1920-1983)
Any denial of the past, any indiscriminate denial of it is evil and delusion. S.L. Frank (1877-1950)
Blessed is he who honors ancestors with a pure heart. J.W. Goethe (1749-1832)

That's right.

[Tochilka]

Covering the Mausoleum at the Parade with plywood is such a tradition of a young country that rises without swinging and with a jerk from its knees. Sarcasm if that. Our business is to Remember the Feat of our heroic Grandfathers and Great-Grandfathers!

[Sergej1972]

Have you heard anything about the Cossack units of the Red Army? And about the Kuban Cossacks at the 1945 Victory Parade?

[Thunderbolt]

Quote: Civil

... Cossack front box ... survived, have already forgotten about the Cossack units in the Wehrmacht and SS.

Learn a little about the history of our glorious army.
Kuban Cossacks at the Victory Parade on June 24, 1945

[Center]

[Civil]

Learn a little about the history of our glorious army.

https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%B7%D0%B0%D1%87%D0%B8%D0%B9_%D1%81%D1%82%D0%B0%D0%BD
There was even an SS Cossack division.
However, in 1945 there were also political reasons. But do you agree to cover the mausoleum with plywood?

[Thunderbolt]

What are you talking about, otherwise I didn't know And you mean the Soviet 1 Guards. KMG heard the thread ...

Quote: Civil

There was even an SS Cossack division.

[Pushkar]

Quote: Thunderbolt

What are you talking about, otherwise I did not know And you about the Soviet 1 Guards. KMG heard a thread

This mechanized horse group was formed in October 1944. The Cossacks were there - the cat wept. But the Cossack Stan as part of the Wehrmacht operated since October 1942 and consisted ONLY of the Cossacks.

[SERGE ANT]

This Parade can be endlessly watched and proud!Happy Victory Day !!!

[Thunderbolt]

Happy Victory Day !!!

[Dart2027]

Quote: Civil

Azach's front box ... survived, have already forgotten about the Cossack units in the Wehrmacht and SS.

Are you doing well with your memory? Let's read, well, at least Wikipedia.

By a decree of the Central Executive Committee of the USSR of April 20, 1936, restrictions on the service of the Cossacks in the units of the Red Army were lifted.
The 10th Territorial Cavalry North Caucasian Division was renamed into the 10th Terek-Stavropol Territorial Cossack Division,
The 12th Territorial Cavalry Division, stationed in the Kuban, was renamed the 12th Kuban Territorial Cossack Division,
The 4th Cavalry Leningrad Red Banner Division named after Comrade Voroshilov was renamed the 4th Don Cossack Red Banner Division named after K.E. Voroshilov,
The 6th Cavalry Chongarskaya Red Banner named after Comrade Budyonny was renamed into the 6th Kuban-Tersk Cossack Red Banner Division named after I. S.M.Budyonny.
The 13th Don Territorial Cossack Division was also formed on the Don, and the Kuban Cossacks served in the 72nd Cavalry Division, 9th Plastun Rifle Division, 17th Cossack Cavalry Corps (later renamed the 4th Guards Kuban Cavalry Corps ), the Orenburg Cossacks served in the 11th (89th), then the 8th Guards Rivne Order of Lenin, the Order of Suvorov of the Cossack cavalry division and the Cossack militia division in Chelyabinsk.
In 1936, the dress uniform for the Cossack units was approved. In this uniform, the Cossacks walked at the Victory Parade on June 24, 1945. The first parade as part of the Red Army with the participation of Cossack units was to take place on May 1, 1936. However, for various reasons, the participation in the military parade of the Cossacks was canceled. Only on May 1, 1937, the Cossack units of the Red Army marched through a military parade across Red Square after years of state rejection. The special Cossack uniform was canceled by order of the People's Commissar of Defense of the USSR No. 005 dated February 1, 1941.
With the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, the Cossack units, both regular, as part of the Red Army, and volunteer ones, took an active part in hostilities against the German troops. In most cases, the newly formed Cossack units, volunteer Cossack hundreds, were poorly armed; as a rule, Cossacks with cold weapons and collective farm horses came to the detachments. Such units were created in the fall of 1941 following the example of the experience of the First World War, for which they were popularly called "Wild Divisions".
Since 1943, the Cossack cavalry divisions and tank units were united, in connection with which the mechanized cavalry groups were formed. Horses were used to a greater extent for organizing fast movement; in battle, the Cossacks were involved as infantry. Plastun divisions were also formed from the Kuban and Terek Cossacks. From among the Cossacks, 262 cavalrymen received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, 7 cavalry corps and 17 cavalry divisions received guards ranks. [8]
After the war
At the end of the war, the Red Army had 7 guards cavalry corps and 1 "just" cavalry corps. Two of them were Cossack - 4th Guards Cavalry Kuban Cossack Corps and 5th Guards Cavalry Don Cossack Corps:

[kubkaz13]

Have you forgotten in 1945 too? Smart guy, before you speak, read how many Cossacks became Heroes of the USSR during the war. Seven cavalry corps, 17 cavalry Cossack divisions were only awarded the title of Guards. And you humiliate their feat because of some Krasnovites, who were mostly emigrants and had nothing to do with the USSR. In the ROA, there were no Cossacks under a million, so what? To humiliate the feat of tens of millions of Russians because of this? You are not right.

[Pushkar]

Quote: kubkaz13

In the ROA, there were no Cossacks under a million, so what? To humiliate the feat of tens of millions of Russians

Well, forget, the USSR is a multinational country. And Moscow was defended by Siberians and Asians. And the Vlasovites and Krasnov's Cossacks were hanged and jailed, do not forget about it.

[kubkaz13]

Quote: Pushkar

Quote: kubkaz13

In the ROA, there were no Cossacks under a million, so what? To humiliate the feat of tens of millions of Russians

Well, forget, the USSR is a multinational country. And Moscow was defended by Siberians and Asians. And the Vlasovites and Krasnov's Cossacks were hanged and jailed, do not forget about it.

Nobody is forgotten, nothing is forgotten. I have a grandmother from Krasnoyarsk, my maiden name is Boykova. Who is she, not Russian? She lost four brothers and her father in the war, and there are millions of such "non-Russians" from Siberia. Nobody belittles the feat of the peoples of the entire USSR in Victory, but 5.7 million Russians killed out of 8.6 million total losses speak for themselves. Like Stalin's toast on May 9th. And about the fate of all evil spirits, it should be so. I didn't understand, to be honest, what relation the mention of this has to the words I wrote.

[aglet]

"And what kind of continuity can we talk about - Lenin's Mausoleum was shyly covered."
in fact, and the continuity-20 (?) is already covering up

[aglet]

"in that and the continuity-20 (?) years are already covering up"
I do not understand the number of minuses - do not cover 20 years? that is, I was wrong and Putin is on the podium of the mausoleum?

[Sotskiy]

Quote: Civil

And what kind of continuity can we talk about - Lenin's Mausoleum was shyly covered.

Many ideas of Nazism, including the delusional idea of ​​exclusivity, are again trying to make it relevant.

The President of the Russian Federation said for the 16th time covering the Lenin mausoleum with plywood, to which the very banners of the defeated parts of Nazi Europe were thrown.

[forester1971]

2. Cossack front box ... survived, have already forgotten about the Cossack units in the Wehrmacht and SS.

In order not to write, to put it mildly, strange comments - here is information for general development about the Cossack units in the Red Army:
“With the beginning of the Great Patriotic War, the Cossack units, both regular, in the Red Army, and volunteer, took an active part in hostilities against the German troops.
Since 1943, the Cossack cavalry divisions and tank units were united, in connection with which the mechanized cavalry groups were formed. Horses were used to a greater extent for organizing fast movement; in battle, the Cossacks were involved as infantry. Plastun divisions were also formed from the Kuban and Terek Cossacks. Among the Cossacks, 262 cavalrymen received the title of Hero of the Soviet Union, 7 cavalry corps and 17 cavalry divisions received guards ranks. The triumph of the Cossack Guard was the Victory Parade in Moscow on June 24, 1945. For courage and heroism shown in the struggle against the German fascist invaders, about 100 thousand Cossack cavalrymen were awarded orders and medals. "

[xorek]

Quote: pexotinec

This parade is the death of NATO and the sha!
The only country that, to the detriment of itself and its people, is trying to make peace on the planet is Russia.

Lieber minus you And I agree with you
Everything is so and let the bastards tear and toss .. Our cause is just!

[Alexander Romanov]

All with Victory Day!
And a little from the parallel reality of the mad house Ukraine.
The Second World War for Ukraine began on September 1, 1939 with the attack of Nazi Germany on Poland. On this day, German military aircraft bombed Lviv and other cities. On September 17, the Soviet Union became a participant in World War II on the side of Germany.
From the bark

[WILL]

Greetings to Alexander! Which Skin gave you a minus?
All friends with the HOLIDAY! Well, let the "enemies" drown in their own bile.
Hurray ... Happy Victory Day !!!

[Alexander Romanov]

Hi Aleksey! But somehow it doesn't matter who puts the minuses there, I have "admirers!"

[WILL]

Quote: Alexander Romanov

Hi Aleksey! But somehow it doesn't matter who puts the minuses there, I have "admirers!"

Sasha, this is a sublimation of "impotence" say "scary" but press "ONONISMO" on the minus ... litter anonymously - that's the thing
Happy Holidays Buddy

[Alexander Romanov]

Quote: ANIMAL

ONONISMO.

All of them in a different topic in the comments were noted, led by Tatra
Mutually Alexey, Happy Victory Day
A "ONONISMO"., My condolences

[Irokez]

This is our holiday and our victory.

[MrFYGY]

Was the Mausoleum covered with cardboard again? Yes, Soviet flags in abundance?

[xorek]

Quote: MrFYGY

Was the Mausoleum covered with cardboard again? Yes, Soviet flags in abundance?

They are afraid of red flags and the history of the heroic Soviet Union! They have nothing to overshadow it
Malakhov's program about "Brezhnev's stagnation" There, such a howl began, well, as you understood ..
And suddenly Brezhnev's granddaughter gets up (she was silent before) and says
My grandfather built so many things that you can't even plunder until now.
And she left the studio !!! But she's right .. Well done !

[Ross xnumx]

I just have no right to cast a shadow on the great triumph of our people, but I will not be silent either:

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President Putin: Our Armed Forces - heirs of the soldiers of Victory

I.V. Stalin stood (!!!) on the podium of the Mausoleum, expressing his respect for the passing troops:

Before the heirs of the soldiers of Victory, the head of the country should not sit among those who forged this Victory.

[Sergej1972]

At first they stood. When Putin saw that the veterans were also standing next to him, he invited them to sit down. They didn't sit down until the president sat down. This was also seen in the report.

[aglet]

"When Putin saw that the veterans stood next to him, he invited them to sit down."
childish excuse. otherwise they were not instructed before

[Incvizitor]

Today he didn’t shake the hands of the representatives of the branches of the armed forces, he just said and went.

[Irokez]

It's strange how you write yourself "I have no right to cast a shadow on the great celebration" and yet you quit. Isn't it a shame, otherwise we can be profitable?
As for the mausoleum, this is not an unambiguous story and attitude towards the one who at one time blew up the country and threw it into the abyss of a civil war and threw an intensively developing state several decades ago. And only thanks to Stalin and his comrades-in-arms, as well as the rest of the people, managed to catch up and bend the enemies.
You need to understand the events and situation at different times of your life and not blindly believe in some dogmas and the merits of some personalities of the past. How many people have so many opinions and your opinion is not the truth for everyone, you need to understand others as well.
Yes, you are not the only one on this site who, in one way or another, throw up a negative that at one time (at the time of events) was probably correct and logical, but today, under pressure from enemies, it probably seems to some that we are the founders of war and allies of fascism. But how subtly all this is served and dripped onto the brains. You yourself can analyze at least a little what the guys are writing?

[aglet]

"And only thanks to Stalin and his associates"
who received the victory parade in 45 and the parade of fortitude in 41st from the podium of Lenin's mausoleum, standing in front of a great people and a great army, and not sitting like today's dwarfs

[Irokez]

Quote: aglet

like today's dwarfs

And Stalin, that he was of great stature? You then insult Stalin and even Lenin with a short stature, it is not good to use double standards.

[Ross xnumx]

Smooth out your mohawk with an iron.
I'm not used to being poked by unfamiliar citizens. You will poke your guarantor when you meet.

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Quote: Irokez

As for the mausoleum, this is not an unambiguous story and attitude towards the one who at one time blew up the country and threw it into the abyss of a civil war and threw an intensively developing state several decades ago.

It is not your business to talk about the Mausoleum, from which the IVS addressed the soldiers who were leaving for the front and where the country's political leadership stood watching the victory parade. It is not your right to judge “right” and “wrong”. People who were not bourgeois defended in war And it's worth reminding you:

As for the negativity thrown onto the site, it is not our fault that you perceive the facts so painfully. Maybe you don't like them? So here's to you:

- You just hate everything Russian!
You simply call Russian all that thieves' and hypocritical abomination that I hate!

How hard it is for you, Chaldeans and pop-lizators:

The hardest thing now is for the "popoliz": after all, this damned social distance of 1,5 meters must be observed.

[Irokez]

Quote: ROSS 42

I'm not used to being "poked"

It's strange, during the revolution, everything to each other "poked" and called comrades, ignoring the master's and barin's "You"... And it is strange when I to "YOU" on "You", for some reason "YOU" (master) does not like it. Be honest to the end, who are YOU Mr. ROSS?

[Irokez]

And then Mr. ROSS (strange, why not in Russian - Ross or Russ).
Judging by the history of the past 100 years about what is good and what is bad for the Russians is complete stupidity, for the history of Russians, Slavs and their ancestors is much deeper and broader. And the land was collected not by the Bolsheviks and Lenin, but by other heroes and rulers of the great country and Empire.
Yes, the Bolsheviks with Lenin are part of history, but what positive or negative? That is the question for a Russian person or a Slav, because after the revolution even the word Russia was somehow not very often used and the word Russian was tried to be replaced by Soviet, trying to forget the originality and power of the Russian civilization (yes, yes, civilization), which periodically replaced the so-called " exceptional "," partners "or" brothers "who sat on their heads. And to hate such a people with such a rich history and history of continuous wars and the struggle for survival for the whole world from the complete enslavement of the colonialists is simply a sin and betrayal. Those who do not know their history go to extinction.
And who would say that I do not like and hate Russians, Russian or Slavic. Look at the enemy in the mirror. And Zadornov should not be attached to his posts - a monument should be erected to him in defense of Russians, not Soviet ones.

[Pushkar]

Quote: Irokez

As for the mausoleum, this is not an unambiguous story and attitude towards the one who at one time blew up the country and threw it into the abyss of civil war and threw the intensively developing state several decades ago

The beautiful and mighty Soviet Union was born by itself and began to grow by leaps and bounds. But on a dark moonless night, the bastard Lenin crept up and planted the bomb that went off now on Mount VVP. But seriously, Lenin and his party recreated a single state (destroyed by the Romanovs) from independent states already by that time. Who does not believe, try it now.

[Irokez]

Quote: Pushkar

But seriously, Lenin and his party recreated a single state (collapsed by the Romanovs) from independent states already by that time

What nonsense.
At the time of Romanov, there was one state, Russia, and now, what is left of it and the Bolsheviks planted this bomb, who gave allotments to even the smallest nations, and even at the expense of the territory of Russia itself, but they did not think about the Cossacks nationality (after all, too, as it were, a community of people) ( or intentionally forgotten).
It was the revolution that dropped the state of Russia and already at that time some territories belonging to Russia were separated and lost.
There is no need to rewrite history, otherwise it will turn out to read "YOU" (also just in case on YOU) that Stalin started the Second World War.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Pushkar

But the bastard Lenin crept up on a dark moonless night and planted the bomb,

Here is the question of organizing the parade. More precisely, a few questions:

[knn54]

The Armed Forces of the Baltic States are the heirs of the "Forest Brothers" and the Waffen SS.

[Potomac]

Well, yes, it was there that more than 30 representatives of the Baltic countries became heroes of the USSR during the Second World War.

[aglet]

"Well, yes, it is there that there are more than 30 representatives of the Baltic countries."
if we take it by percentage, it was minuscule, there were only a few real heroes, the rest was propaganda, or the Dnieper heroes

[Pushkar]

Quote: Potomac

Well, yes, it was there that more than 30 representatives of the Baltic countries became heroes of the USSR during the Second World War.

The same Marita Melnikaite is Russian by mother.

[tralflot1832]

Happy national holiday Victory Day! I always remember at what cost our people got it! We were very pleased with the names of the units participating in the parade. Europe needs to study geography by their names, and draw conclusions! Happy Victory Day again!

[Storog dvornik]

The might, the strength of the military iron, pardon the military pensioner
"Militarism" in all its glory, the eye rejoices as in childhood ...
BUT...
Leader and defender of everything "Russian Orthodox" - VVP,
told the bourgeois version of the Second World War, and as usual not
said that he won the bloodiest war of the twentieth century -
the Soviet people, and the Soviet government headed by
Generalissimo Joseph Stalin, and Marshal of Victory
Lavrentiy Beria ...
As in previous years, the Mausoleum was closed with plywood,
standard-bearers and proudly carried the flag across Red Square
the hanged general / traitor Vlasov, in front of the Banner
Victories of the Soviet people in the fight against German Nazism ...
My father is a front-line soldier, he will turn over in the grave again ...
Forgive me dad ... Happy Victory Day!

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Storog Dvornik

flag
the hanged general / traitor Vlasov

ROA, among other things, was armed with PPSh-41 and DP-27.
Are you proposing to consider these samples of Soviet weapons Vlasov?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

Are you proposing to consider these samples of Soviet weapons Vlasov?

Everything is fine with your head, or like here:

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At one time, various evil spirits enjoyed using the AK-47. Mikhail Timofeevich Kalashnikov always lamented about this. Maybe precisely because he could be considered the creator of mass weapons for terrorists and various bandits.
This is a simple analogy to your reasoning.

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But I can only offer you one thing. A rhetorical question. Can you answer what would have happened to someone who would have proposed holding the Victory Parade in 1965 in exactly this style and with a draped Mausoleum?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Can you explain the fierce hatred for the Russian tricolor by something other than the fact that it is not the flag of the Soviet Union? Or do you think that this is enough to hate the tricolor and call it Vlasov?

[Pushkar]

The ROA of the traitor-general Vlasov fought under this flag, and therefore we call it Vlasov. However, the time of my generation is coming to an end, and you young people don't seem to care.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

How many tsarist officers and soldiers died defending Soviet Russia in the Civil War and the Great Patriotic War?
Did they say: "I swore an oath not to this country"?
Did they say that the Red Banner is not their flag?

[Storog dvornik]

Military service in the USSR is an honorable duty of a citizen to protect the Soviet people ...
The current Armed Forces, whatever one may say, protect the property of private shareholders from Gazprom, Transneft, etc.

Modern historians claim that up to 80% of the officers served in the spacecraft and fought with the separatists under the name of the "White Movement" who were trying to tear Russia apart, with the help of the ANTANTA invaders ...

"Tsarist" officers ended in February 1917 when Nicholas No. 2 voluntarily resigned (having previously sent the gold reserve to England) and became a citizen of Romanov Nikolai Alexandrovich ...

English uniform
Shoulder strap french
Japanese tobacco,
Omsk ruler.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Modern historians claim that up to 80% of the officers served in the spacecraft and fought with the separatists under the name of the "White Movement" who were trying to tear Russia apart, with the help of the ANTANTA invaders ...

Do not understand. 80% served in the KA - Red Army, right? - and they fought the separatists? That is, they fought with themselves?
And in more detail, please, about the officers who ended in 1917. About Vasilevsky, for example.

[Pushkar]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Quote: Storog Dvornik

flag
the hanged general / traitor Vlasov

ROA, among other things, was armed with PPSh-41 and DP-27.
Are you proposing to consider these samples of Soviet weapons Vlasov?

Nemchura also fought on the T-34. It is important - for what and under what banners they fought.

[Pushkar]

Quote: Storog Dvornik

Forgive me dad ... Happy Victory Day!

Happy Victory Day, brother! The truth will triumph anyway.

[Lars971a]

[quoteLeader and defender of everything "Russian Orthodox" - GDP,
told the bourgeois version of the Second World War, and as usual not
said that he won the bloodiest war of the twentieth century -
the Soviet people, and the Soviet government headed by
Generalissimo Joseph Stalin, and Marshal of Victory
Lavrentiy Beria ...] [/ quote] Thank you for the truth ...........................!

[Incvizitor]

There is no forgiveness and excuse for those who are again hatching aggressive plans.

This is what the UN should say more often to the henchmen of Western fascism.

[Tagan]

Quote: Storog Dvornik

The might, the strength of the military iron, pardon the military pensioner
"Militarism" in all its glory, the eye rejoices as in childhood ...
BUT...
Leader and defender of everything "Russian Orthodox" - VVP,
told the bourgeois version of the Second World War, and as usual not
said that he won the bloodiest war of the twentieth century -
the Soviet people, and the Soviet government headed by
Generalissimo Joseph Stalin, and Marshal of Victory
Lavrentiy Beria ...
As in previous years, the Mausoleum was closed with plywood,
standard-bearers and proudly carried the flag across Red Square
the hanged general / traitor Vlasov, in front of the Banner
Victories of the Soviet people in the fight against German Nazism ...
My father is a front-line soldier, he will turn over in the grave again ...
Sorry dad ...

Forgot to get drunk? This is at the expense of the "Vlasov flag".
Shit, and then asks for forgiveness.

[paul3390]

What does noneshnyaya RF have to do with that great Victory ?? After all, Soviet citizens fought to the death precisely so that such as it is now - would never exist .. And should we, having pissed off the victorious country itself, the Soviet Union - to arrange celebrations in honor of its achievements? The parade under the Vlasov tricolor in front of the bashfully boarded-up Mausoleum is just a frank mockery of the memory of those who spared neither strength nor life itself for the sake of that Victory.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Vasia

Another defecated, relieved?

Some, for some reason, at the sight of the Russian tricolor, develop the same unbearable diarrhea as the liberals at the mention of the Ninth of May.

[Pushkar]

And what great victories have been won under the tricolor? What does it have to do with May 9?

[Vasia]

Here is a girl who told me well (just a few of my comments in italics):

They are throwing idiotic, deceitful demotivators, like this one, where at the Victory Parade on June 24, 1945, along with enemy banners and standards, the Russian tricolor is thrown onto the platform near the Mausoleum. I do not want to post this abomination here at all, so you can view it at the link. After a short search, I managed to find where the legs of these demotivators grow from, which are rapidly spreading on the Internet, just like in Vysotsky's song, stupid rumors are spread across the minds of toothless old women, so bloggers, someone from ignorance of history, who deliberately spread all sorts of nonsense on the internet. The beginning of this was laid by the "paintings" of the Angarsk artist with a sick imagination, Nikolai Mikhailovich Terekhov, whose provocative goal, apparently, has only one, trampling in the mud and humiliation of the symbols of Russian statehood, Article 329 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation, which provides for imprisonment for up to one year, probably his does not bother at all (strangely, this criminal article never bothers the site administration and many VO commentators).
......
The Russian tricolor, like the Andreevsky flag, was used by everyone during the Second World War. So, what is next? Why should we pay attention to this mold that has defiled our symbolism?

Anton Ivanovich Denikin said most eloquently about this mold in 1941:
"By cooperating with the Nazis, Krasnov confirmed that he does not like Russians. Russians, Russia - like a non-Russian Cossack with all his independence ... Now there is no red army, now there is no white army, but there is only one army - the Russian one, and it will win!"

The white-blue-red flag and the double-headed eagle are the main historical symbols of Russia and the Russian people. I respect the Soviet flag and Soviet symbols, but the Flag of Russia is dear to me, I grew up under this flag, it means a lot to me. All the flags of Russia, and the White-Blue-Red Tricolor, and the Andreevsky, and the Red Serpasto-Hammer, and even the Black-Yellow-White flag, these are all our flags and you cannot belittle their role in the history of Russia and, moreover, give each of them to be torn apart by all sorts of enemies. The Russian flag has long been a tricolor, and the leeches that illegally sucked on it during the Second World War, as well as on the Andreevsky, and to the Black-Yellow-White flags, died long ago and fell off. So, as we can see, the myth of the "Vlasov flag", which is already tired of the order, is apparently spread only by those who do not like it for various reasons, either provocateurs, or simply stupid people who do not know history. It's time to put an end to this!

Author: Irena Platova

https://cccp2.mirtesen.ru/blog/43062902617/Novaya-mifologiya:-Rossiyskiy-flag---eto-vlasovskiy-flag-Razobla

[Pushkar]

Denikin asked Truman (in writing!) To drop an atomic bomb on the USSR. The conscience of the nation is good.

[Vasia]

The conscience of the nation is good.

You yourself defined it that way. Not me.

[paul3390]

Not. It will feel better when we press liberal scum like you to the nail. And we will restore our great Motherland - the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics.

[From Tomsk]

For you, Banderaites, this day has never been a holiday.

[Storog dvornik]

You understand, but the locals do not understand what war and death are ..
Death for the Motherland .. this is one thing ...
Death under contract is not at all the same ...
The ancient truth of all mercenaries is easy to kill for loot, and dying is creepy ...

[XXXIII]

Soldiers of victory for us!

[aglet]

"Soldiers of victory for us!"
how many of you are left?

[XXXIII]

Quote: aglet

"Soldiers of victory for us!"
how many of you are left?

There are about a lot of uranium warheads, enough for everyone!

[aglet]

in addition to uranium warheads, you need to have iron eggs, and this is not visible

[XXXIII]

Quote: aglet

in addition to uranium warheads, you need to have iron eggs, and this is not visible

You speak like a schoolboy, orders to strike are not only taken by the commander in emergency situations.

[aglet]

"You speak like a schoolboy, orders to strike are not only the commander-in-chief"
and who, gref? or miller? Well, yes, well, yes, Sechin, without fail.
that's why he is called the commander-in-chief, because it is he who makes the decision. not Volodin, not Matvienko, but Putin

[XXXIII]

Quote: aglet

"You speak like a schoolboy, orders to strike are not only the commander-in-chief"
and who, gref? or miller? Well, yes, well, yes, Sechin, without fail.
that's why he is called the commander-in-chief, because it is he who makes the decision. not Volodin, not Matvienko, but Putin

Do they somehow relate to the military?

[aglet]

"Do they somehow relate to the military?"
while military decisions are made by the supreme commander

[Konnick]

And where did the shoigu go?

[aglet]

"All this resembles the Time before the change of Ages"
brezhnev, three days before his death, the parade on November 7 survived

[VORON538]

All of you are waiting, you will not wait, it was already, such "zapremeny" galloped - you jumped the USSR. This time, you will not wait!

[VORON538]

You are a resident of Belarus! Isn't Putin the president of Belarus? It is not for you to argue, supporter of zmagars, about Russia and its rulers!

[Tagan]

Quote: paul3390

What does noneshnyaya RF have to do with that great Victory ?? After all, Soviet citizens fought to the death precisely so that such as it is now - would never exist .. And should we, having pissed off the victorious country itself, the Soviet Union - to arrange celebrations in honor of its achievements? The parade under the Vlasov tricolor in front of the bashfully boarded-up Mausoleum is just a frank mockery of the memory of those who spared neither strength nor life itself for the sake of that Victory.

Reflections of a pseudo-communist who just recently promised to hang those who were unwanted on the trees.

[aglet]

"Reflections of a Pseudo-Communist"
that is, do you agree with him (disagree)?

[aglet]

"this is just a frank mockery of the memory of those who spared no effort or life itself"
"Reflections of a Pseudo-Communist"
you will not believe, the war was won mainly by the communists

[VORON538]

Can you share reliable data on the number of members of the Communist Party who fought against the Nazis? At the same time, share the data on how many of these party members are now "building capitalism" in Russia. I mean, my grandfather was not a member, but he fought, sergeant. Batya was not, that's probably why we have no Maybachs, no factories! And my grandfather fought not for the Communists, but for his and your Motherland, like the majority! And he went to the front as a volunteer.

[aglet]

"Can you share reliable data on the number of members of the Communist Party who fought against the Nazis?"
there were significantly more of them than members from united Russia. and they are building capitalism. and what complaints to me? Yes, I did not fight, and I was not a member of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and there is no Maybach either, but what does this have to do with it? and there were 8 million communists in the war. how many died - you can look for yourself

[Pushkar]

Quote: VORON538

Can you share reliable data on the number of members of the Communist Party who fought against the Nazis?

During the Great Patriotic War, more than 1,5 million communists were sent to the active army, a significant number acted as part of partisan detachments and underground organizations in the occupied territory. Despite the losses, during the war, the number of the party increased by 1,6 million people.

[Tagan]

Quote: aglet

"Reflections of a Pseudo-Communist"
that is, do you agree with him (disagree)?

In general, I am for the fact that various evil spirits do not rot this great holiday with their ideas.

[aglet]

"In general, I am for the fact that various evil spirits do not rot this great holiday with their ideas"
that's not rubbish. sometimes it's better to chew

[Million]

Why did the Supreme Commander receive the Parade while sitting?
Not knowing the Charter or disrespecting?
Old and sick Brezhnev always stood ...

[flicker]

All those who are with us:
Happy Great Victory Day!

[Tagan]

Quote: aglet

"In general, I am for the fact that various evil spirits do not rot this great holiday with their ideas"
that's not rubbish. sometimes it's better to chew

And sometimes it's not bad to think (you have nothing, unfortunately). You, eccentric, wipe the sniffs before you poke them.
Interestingly, the unity of liberals and pseudo-communists.)))

[aglet]

"How interesting, the union of liberals and pseudo-communists"
What class do you belong to? too, interesting

[egor1712]

Happy Victory Day!

[Tagan]

Quote: aglet

"this is just a frank mockery of the memory of those who spared no effort or life itself"
"Reflections of a Pseudo-Communist"
you will not believe, the war was won mainly by the communists

Are communist and pseudo-communist synonymous for you?

[aglet]

"Are a communist and a pseudo-communist synonymous for you?"
do you even know that word?

[Alexga]

Victory came to every house in a different way. To our house like this https://youtu.be/vOiYLh-7kVA. This is my father's last story of how the war ended for him. Alas, 4 years since he was gone. I congratulate everyone on our Victory Day!

[Radical]

Quote: Irokez

Quote: aglet

like today's dwarfs

And Stalin, that he was of great stature? You then insult Stalin and even Lenin with a short stature, it is not good to use double standards.

A dwarf is a figure of speech that determines the inner content of a character, and not his physical parameters. This is probably what Axelbant had in mind.

[aglet]

"A dwarf is a figure of speech that defines the inner content of a character,"
that's what I meant. but they do not know that

[Niko]

Show-off anywhere. And when will you provide the veterans with apartments? Or is it just at the cemetery? The real estate itself has been bought all over the world, and the grandfathers are still in queues for apartments ... BUT WE SPEAK BEAUTIFUL

[Tagan]

Quote: aglet

"Are a communist and a pseudo-communist synonymous for you?"
do you even know that word?

You see how much is new for you in one day. And both words are incomprehensible, right?
Remember one thing, "literate": your verbiage with your mind does not intersect in any way. And then, as a person who makes a lot of spelling and punctuation mistakes, your sarcasm fits like a cow's saddle.

[aglet]

"And then, as a person who makes a lot of spelling and punctuation mistakes, your sarcasm fits like a cow's saddle."
well, well, and can you even prove it? and how are sarcasm and spelling related? maybe you know these two words too?

[Tagan]

Quote: Storog Dvornik

You shit with your not clever post ... a little upset ...
Explaining for the victims of the exam ...
TRICOLOR is the flag of the traitor Vlasov, the chevrons of his army as an example ... And the Red Flag is the Banner of Victory, everyone knows this ...
Ferstein? (in German)
Didn't you understand the kid? (In Russian)

Did you understand anything yourself?
First, I would have learned to express myself in Russian. Polyglot, damn it)))
Listen, you, a victim of fan attacks, the Russian tricolor has more than 300 years of history.

[aglet]

"Listen, you, a victim of fan attacks, the Russian tricolor has more than 300 years of history."
but who would argue, this is the flag of the Russian merchant fleet, and it is 300 years old. but what does it have to do with the victory over Germany? And what does the Russian Federation have to do with the victory of the USSR over the Third Reich, which took place 46 years before the Russian Federation declared itself?

[Prjanik]

I look at the comments, the very shortcomings that were mentioned today, so infuriates the Victory Day that they can't eat straight and spoil our holiday. The jerk constantly climbs and carries nonsense about the Vlasov tricolor type [B] [/ b]

[Tagan]

Quote: aglet

"Listen, you, a victim of fan attacks, the Russian tricolor has more than 300 years of history."
but who would argue, this is the flag of the Russian merchant fleet, and it is 300 years old. but what does it have to do with the victory over Germany? And what does the Russian Federation have to do with the victory of the USSR over the Third Reich, which took place 46 years before the Russian Federation declared itself?

So the victory took place in 46 years. And RF has nothing to do (?) Well, okay! Then why should Vlasov fly, at least following this logic? If it is present at all.
As for whether RF is relevant or not. And what, people - citizens of the USSR no longer lived when the Russian Federation emerged? Veterans, their children and grandchildren. Places of battles, graves. Or did the Russian Federation arise somewhere else and with completely different people than in the USSR? In addition, the Russian Federation is the successor to the USSR.

[aglet]

"RF is the successor of the USSR."
only territorially. the bourgeois capitalist state cannot be the successor and heir of the socialist one. accordingly, all the victories and achievements of the ussr can in no way be victories of the russian federation. rf lives like a parasite on the corpse of the ussr, gradually eating it

[Tagan]

Quote: aglet

"And then, as a person who makes a lot of spelling and punctuation mistakes, your sarcasm fits like a cow's saddle."
well, well, and can you even prove it? and how are sarcasm and spelling related? maybe you know these two words too?

Prove what? Your illiteracy? You mean, your writings are not yours at all?))) You don't have to go far. Read yourself for this day.
At the expense of the connection of sarcasm and spelling. That things are so bad? Not able to keep track of your own pens? Do we forget what we are writing? Okay. If you yourself are illiterate (after all, you have trouble not only with spelling and punctuation, but also with the understanding of word formations, as it turned out), then trying to convict someone else of this is extremely stupid. Not sure, of course, what will come to you.

[aglet]

"You mean, your writings are not yours at all?))) You don't have to go far. Read yourself for this day."
well, that is, are these all your arguments? I hope this word is familiar to you?
"At the expense of the connection of sarcasm and spelling" for you, there is only one connection - these are words whose meaning you do not understand. "On account" speaks well of this. but in general, I'm tired of you. learn Russian, history, beginnings of logic, and then try to discuss with people

[Constanty]

Congratulations on Victory Day from Poland.
Nazism was the greatest threat to all Slavs, and your ancestors defeated it. Thank you

[yasvet]

HAPPY OUR FOLK VICTORY DAY!
Today in Leningrad (St. Petersburg), a clear, fine day turned out to be, as if to order). All sores are receding to the tenth plane.) By tradition, we were a family at the "Bayonet" on a trip to the city from the Pulkovo Heights. And what is remarkable, among all people There are a lot of children of ages, which means that no matter how bile the enemies are, and now, and every next year, people will remember this day. By the right of memory, this is OUR VICTORY!
I am glad and proud for our 200 tankers and Marines from Sputnik. Keep it up!

[Hiller]

Our Parade, our Victory, blowing all the enemies of size 56. "..shob I saw you at the coffin in white slippers." This is my answer to all ill-wishers.

[Tagan]

Quote: aglet

"You mean, your writings are not yours at all?))) You don't have to go far. Read yourself for this day."
well, that is, are these all your arguments? I hope this word is familiar to you?
"At the expense of the connection of sarcasm and spelling" for you, there is only one connection - these are words whose meaning you do not understand. "On account" speaks well of this. but in general, I'm tired of you. learn Russian, history, beginnings of logic, and then try to discuss with people

Arguments are not enough for you, ignoramus? I understand when a person messed up in a hurry. But when he constantly sculpts punctuation marks, wherever he pleases and unnecessarily, along the way making a number of mistakes, well, it's a shame, especially when he imagines himself to be literate))) if you blind your scribble by the volume of dictation and count all the mistakes, then there will be no more earn.
At the expense of logic, you would not stutter at all, humanitarian. Your attempts to mislead someone with your stories in the presence of intelligence at the stage of conception do not stand up to criticism. You have long been lit up in this regard)))

[Tagan]

Quote: aglet

"RF is the successor of the USSR."
only territorially. the bourgeois capitalist state cannot be the successor and heir of the socialist one. accordingly, all the victories and achievements of the ussr can in no way be victories of the russian federation. rf lives like a parasite on the corpse of the ussr, gradually eating it

Your high-flown speeches at the moment do not make any sense and look stupid. What are you babbling about knowledge of history? Well, if you are such an expert, you should be aware that the continuity is documented. In addition, the Russian Federation paid off the debts of the USSR. For the rest, it's even a pity to waste time on you, because he is impenetrable in his stupidity.
Come on)))

[Yuriy71]

The next time you get to Berlin - no painting on the Reichstag - just Demolish, sprinkle the earth with salt so that the grass does not grow and make a dump!

[demo]

President of Russia:

Our Armed Forces are the heirs of the soldiers of Victory.
Since when have descendants not showing portraits of their ancestors?
Since when have the graves of those who forged victory, led by the Supreme Commander-in-Chief, have been fenced off from the participants in the current parade with plywood shields?
Yes ... Putin has completely beguiled the coast.
Or do speechwriters suffer from stupidity?
I could carry any nonsense, but to say this, against the background of actions - this is already a diagnosis.