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PRC Press: A big fight awaits those pushing Russia and China to unite against themselves

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Global Times, a major Chinese newspaper, publishes material that examines the emerging tendency of the collective West and its satellites to present Russia and China as a "global evil", a "threat to world civilization." Chinese journalists draw attention to the increasingly active US interference in the internal affairs of a number of countries, including China. Washington repeatedly raises issues of Hong Kong, Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region, Taiwan, disputed islands in the South and East China Seas.


It is noted that instead of tackling its own problems, Washington constantly encourages those who consider themselves its allies - the countries of Europe, Australia, Japan, finding targets for them at least for information attacks.

The Chinese media have noted the double standards of the United States, pointing out that Secretary of State Anthony Blinken does not consider the situation in the world a "second cold war".

They (the United States) declare that they intend to defend the world order in accordance with international law. But they use international law only in cases where it is beneficial to the United States itself. As soon as something is found in this right that runs counter to American interests, it is quickly forgotten.

It is noted that the Big Seven, which has long ceased to express the interests of the majority of the planet's inhabitants, exhibits behavior that is more like a diktat. In particular, the G7 summit once again raised the question of how to "confront the challenges posed by Russia and China."

Global Times:

The United States and its allies persist in dividing the world, creating hotbeds of confrontation. They are forcibly enforcing a world order in which there is no place for China and Russia, but only for American hegemony.

Chinese authors write that they are forced to warn the United States that they are "playing with fire":

And you cannot succeed in such a game.

It is noted that the United States is doing everything it can to unite Moscow and Beijing against itself.

From an article in the PRC press:

The potentials of China and Russia are so great that a big fight and a real nightmare awaits those who push them to unite against themselves.

At the same time, it is added that China and Russia in the new stories have not yet entered into a full-fledged military alliance. But anything can happen against the backdrop of escalating the situation by Washington.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 9 May 2021 08: 23
    +4
    They are pushing ...
    The Yankees themselves will dig a hole!
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 9 May 2021 09: 14
      +9
      Quote: Victor_B
      They are pushing ...

      There is an opinion that the United States, by its behavior, is pushing us into the arms of China. This is not true. The United States is struggling to cling to Russia and China, so as not to merge into the toilet of history, like the Roman Empire. Nothing will come of it. The United States has been sentenced definitively and is not subject to appeal.
      1. sevtrash
        sevtrash 9 May 2021 09: 34
        -12%
        Quote: Boris55
        There is an opinion that the United States, by its behavior, is pushing us into the arms of China. This is not true. The United States is struggling to cling to Russia and China, so as not to merge into the toilet of history, like the Roman Empire. Nothing will come of it. The United States has been sentenced definitively and is not subject to appeal.

        It is the United States that is now the most powerful country militarily and technologically. In research, too, by the way, fundamental, which is extremely important. The Chinese can move them in the future. But, the Americans have already realized the threat and have already begun to act. Or maybe the United States can do everything or almost everything, and no law has been written for them, they themselves write these laws on the go. On the example of Russia, one can see how and what can be done with a country that poses a threat to the United States and does not want to fall under the United States.
        There is a nuance - yes, the United States is now a world gendarme who does what and how he wants for himself and for himself. But if China becomes such a gendarme, will it be better? I doubt it.
        1. Snail N9
          Snail N9 9 May 2021 09: 43
          -4
          The adherents of the "conspiracy theory" have an alternative version of what is happening. According to their theory, China was chosen by the world's shadow government to create and test new methods of management and control of human society. Russia is being pushed into the "embrace" of China precisely so that a rapid restructuring of society according to the "Chinese" (and in fact, the "shadow world government") model can take place in Russia. I don’t know how likely such a version may be, but given the future of humanity, based on agglomerations, announced from the highest tribunes of the world elite, everything can be, it’s very likely that everything is developing in this direction ...
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 9 May 2021 13: 19
            +1
            Quote: Snail N9
            According to their theory, China was chosen by the world's shadow government to create and test new methods of management and control of human society. Russia is being pushed into the "embrace" of China precisely so that a rapid restructuring of society according to the "Chinese" (and in fact, the "shadow world government") model takes place in Russia. I don't know how likely such a version can be, but given the future of humanity based on agglomerations, voiced from the highest tribunes of the world elite, everything can be

            Unlikely. It is only true that the existing world order is undergoing a serious reformation, during which the unipolar world will become a thing of the past with the shift of the center of the world economy to the Asia-Pacific region. Mattresses, like "world fixers", believing in their exclusivity based on weapons and the dictatorship of the dollar, took the burden beyond their strength, and therefore there were forces in the world who want to get rid of this "tutelage" and try to explain to the "hegemon" what is needed play according to the same rules that everyone understands, or he will be kicked out of the game. Yesterday, China began testing the use of the digital yuan, which greatly upset the mattresses.
          2. venik
            venik 9 May 2021 19: 34
            -3
            Quote: Snail N9
            According to their theory, China was chosen by the world's shadow government to create and test new methods of management and control of human society.

            =========
            Alas! You are not right! The situation here is much more complicated! Although at one time the Soviet Union (more precisely, the RSFSR) was chosen as an "experiment" ...
            Alas! with the RSFSR, the "shadow elites" (read - transnational elites) - did not work out ... "Pope Stalin" (gaining strength) - sent them "to hell" ....
            Well, then ... Then there was a country (USSR), which stubbornly did not want to obey the "globalists" ...
            Then RF like heir THE USSR.....
            Hence all these "sanctions", accusations of "non-compliance" .... and so on. and so on ...... Either they do not like the "social system", then the "communist ideology" - "across the throat" .... Or the state "ambitions" of Russia .......
        2. Boris55
          Boris55 9 May 2021 09: 49
          -6
          Quote: sevtrash
          The United States is now the most powerful country militarily and technologically.

          The USSR had an "invincible and legendary army that knew the joy of victories", but the USSR was not destroyed by nuclear bombs. The same is happening now in the United States.

          Quote: sevtrash
          On the example of Russia, one can see how and what can be done with a country that poses a threat to the United States and does not want to fall under the United States.

          The country elite of the United States does not have global knowledge and therefore they cannot and will not succeed in anything. Peace already has ceased to be unipolar - and this is a fact. The power control center of the World from the USA is transferred to China. The "brains" remain in the UK for the time being - Iran is not yet ready to take on their role. Iran failed to cope with ISIS, Turkey failed to cleanse the Armenians, the future place of the occult center instead of the Vatican, and much more. Russia by its actions opposes and defends its place by right on the Olympus of World Power. We are already one of the control centers of the World.

          But if China becomes such a gendarme, will it be better?

          Russia as Canada? Not.
          Globalization according to the Western scenario, whoever is not under us is against us, has failed. Globalization is going on according to the principle of all equals among equals.
        3. businessv
          businessv 9 May 2021 22: 47
          +3
          Quote: sevtrash
          But if China becomes such a gendarme, will it be better? I doubt it.
          Do not hesitate, it will not! The mentality is not the same. Today, only one country in the world is trying to impose its will and its way of life on all other countries, but if you carefully remember all the milestones in the history of this country, then only a completely indifferent hair will not stand on end from what they did to the indigenous people and brought into the country slaves. The United States, apart from printing money, unleashing another color revolution and foreign trade, can do nothing! Scary because. This is the only country that interferes with the natural course of evolution on a global scale, so there is only one conclusion: it should not exist. smile
    2. xorek
      xorek 9 May 2021 10: 32
      -2
      The potentials of China and Russia are so great that a big fight and a real nightmare awaits those who push them to unite against themselves.

      Yes, we in Russia know this and it is good that China understands this too !!!
      Alone they will destroy us and very cunningly.
      We need to go out into Space together, everything will be decided there .. Your money, our technologies and the devil will not be a brother to us !!!!
  2. sevtrash
    sevtrash 9 May 2021 08: 35
    -3
    Russia doesn't have much of a choice. Betting on China is unlikely to work, the Chinese are on their own, this is normal, every man for himself, like everywhere else. They will not agree to some kind of strategic friendship, with anyone, probably, they are on their own and above everyone else. It seems more profitable to bet on the United States from all sides, but not an option either - for this you need to give and surrender everything, or rather, the American does not need Russia in the form in which it is, even now, under all sorts of sanctions and accusations, they lead to disintegration of Russia. It remains to balance between those and these, and this does not work, to put it mildly.
    1. Pessimist22
      Pessimist22 9 May 2021 08: 50
      +9
      Bet on the USA? What nonsense is this? An agreement with them is not worth the paper on which it is written, and the Chinese never forget anything and never forgive anything.
      1. sevtrash
        sevtrash 9 May 2021 09: 00
        -2
        Quote: Pessimist22
        Bet on the USA? What nonsense is this? A contract with them is not worth the paper on which it is written, and the Chinese never forget anything and never sell anything.

        For the Chinese, only they themselves exist, everything and everything else is below them and their interests. An alliance with Russia is not profitable for them, they receive gigantic money from trade with the West and will do everything (well, almost) to preserve it. Why do they need a relationship with an outcast country? They only need a demonstration of the possibility of deeper ties with Russia, as a demonstration of the threat of such an event for the United States, nothing more.
        1. mark2
          mark2 9 May 2021 10: 03
          +5
          Everyone has already understood that you are drowning for friendship with the West and their flagship, the United States. USA is cool, USA is a dream, USA is something, USA is behold! Aliluya ... Nothing from the past and what is happening teaches you.
          But....
          I do not understand the supporters of friendship with China either.
          Both those and others behave like Cheburashkas looking for friends.
          Russia is not looking for friendship with China, but it does not work with the West, and thank God. Only trade relations should be conducted with everyone. Sell ​​what they take, buy what they need. That's all.
          And everyone who lobbies for closer relations with certain countries or blocs should be removed from the leadership altogether, because they have already sold out and took an advance of 10 pieces of silver.
          1. sevtrash
            sevtrash 9 May 2021 14: 08
            0
            Quote: mark2
            Everyone has already understood that you are drowning for friendship with the West and their flagship, the United States. USA is cool, USA is a dream, USA is something, USA is behold! Aliluya ... Nothing from the past and what is happening teaches you.

            And in the past there was the death of the USSR, a great country, a potential leader of the world. And where is she? Destroyed, with the participation of an external enemy and with the participation (or indifference) of the Soviet authorities, which turned into mediocre careerists-bureaucrats and / or bribe-takers. What about today? There has probably never been such a wave of bribe-takers in Russia. Police, militia, senators, governors ... The special services are racing with the Ministry of Internal Affairs and the prosecutor's office to protect business. Power efficiency? - lost everything we can. The country is under sanctions and under persecution. Is this the result of an adequate policy? - but more like an elephant in a china shop. The authorities are not up to this, however, interest, palaces are more interested in them. They have lost the fight for Ukraine ineptly, they are losing for Belarus, they find nothing better than to stand in the position of the offended, proud, unbroken. And the people, the country, its economy and development suffer. These, from above, have stolen for their entire lives and for descendants up to the 10th tribe, and the first will sell Russia when they realize that they cannot continue to rule.
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    2. ammunition
      ammunition 9 May 2021 09: 35
      +5
      Quote: sevtrash
      Russia doesn't have much of a choice. Betting on China is unlikely to work, the Chinese are on their own,

      There is objective circumstances that are stronger than any intentions and opinions, likes and dislikes.
      1) Russia and China are objectively pressed against each other. The face of Russia (as well as a spear and a sword)
      facing west for centuries .. to Europe, because it is dangerous to turn to Europe backwards. For centuries, the face of China has been turned to the Southeast, since it is from the Southeast to China that the only way for both trade and aggression.
      2) Always .. Russia and China, without even wanting to, unwittingly helped each other. Before World War II, China distracted Japan, which got stuck in China.
      3) Over the past 500 years of neighboring China, we have not had a single war with China (minor incidents do not count).
  3. Mountain shooter
    Mountain shooter 9 May 2021 08: 39
    +2
    A military alliance with the PRC? The terrible nightmare of Washington ... The cowboys are getting on. True, the symbiosis of the United States and China with a huge trade turnover raises some doubts. How can they fight when every US store is full of Chinese goods?
    1. samarin1969
      samarin1969 9 May 2021 09: 11
      +1
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      How can they fight when every US store is full of Chinese goods?

      And what is not a reason for war? Eliminate a competitor in the domestic market. To do this, the United States will only need to draw the PRC into a local long-term conflict.
      A real alliance between the Russian Federation and the PRC is unrealistic for the same reasons as the alliance with Iran.
      "If the cowboy orders, who will refuse him ..." laughing
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 9 May 2021 10: 19
        +1
        Quote: samarin1969
        And what is not a reason for war? Eliminate a competitor in the domestic market

        And who will be able to replace such a lot of goods at once? At first, stores in the US will be empty. Until the "rolling ball" ... is it really possible to quickly expand production? The years will go by. China has a huge domestic market. SEA - there is also more than a billion. It will be easier for him.
  4. Thrifty
    Thrifty 9 May 2021 09: 01
    -4
    China is as much an enemy to us as the United States, only more insidious, cunning, prudent, resourceful, arrogant! They massively hack (break into) our defense enterprises and companies, steal all information, infect archives with viruses, or destroy them. CDB "Rubin" and "Gidropribor" hacked by their hackers, for example, recently. And, that's just what is known!
    1. sevtrash
      sevtrash 9 May 2021 09: 08
      +2
      Quote: Thrifty
      China is as much an enemy to us as the United States, only more insidious, cunning, prudent, resourceful, arrogant! They massively hack (break into) our defense enterprises and companies, steal all information, infect archives with viruses, or destroy them. CDB "Rubin" and "Gidropribor" hacked by their hackers, for example, recently. And, that's just what is known!

      They steal from everyone. But almost everyone who can do this, of course. Industrial espionage has been around for a very long time. Silk, for example.
      1. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 9 May 2021 10: 22
        0
        Quote: sevtrash
        Silk, for example.

        And tea? It was generally a long-term operation, with wars and the landing of an entire country "on drugs"! Theft of planting material and the removal of workers who worked on the plantations ...
    2. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 9 May 2021 10: 26
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      They massively hack (break into) our defense enterprises and companies, steal all information, infect archives with viruses, or destroy them. CDB "Rubin" and "Gidropribor" hacked by their hackers, for example, recently. And, that's just what is known

      But in a number of industries this does not give much. What I know not by hearsay. GTE. Until now, they have not really mastered it. Although even a license in the 90s was sold to them for engines from "dryers".
      1. sevtrash
        sevtrash 9 May 2021 17: 34
        -1
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        But in a number of industries this does not give much. What I know not by hearsay. GTE. Until now, they have not really mastered it. Although even a license in the 90s was sold to them for engines from "dryers".

        And engines were copied in the Soviet Union. Now the Chinese are doing it. Given their logistical resources, they will soon learn to make them themselves.
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 9 May 2021 18: 02
          0
          Quote: sevtrash

          And engines were copied in the Soviet Union. Now the Chinese are doing it. Given their logistical resources, they will soon learn to make them themselves.

          For more than 20 years, and still nothing. Despite the material and technical resources.
          1. sevtrash
            sevtrash 9 May 2021 22: 02
            0
            Quote: Mountain Shooter
            For more than 20 years, and still nothing. Despite the material and technical resources.

            20 years is not that long. Al31 was made bigger. It depends on what and how to count more. They make engines, but not at the highest level. They make spaceships, stealth fighters, nuclear submarines, aircraft carriers, intercontinental missiles, and whatnot. Their material and technical resources are almost limitless, so they will do it.
    3. ANB
      ANB 10 May 2021 23: 48
      +1
      ... CDB "Rubin" and "Gidropribor" hacked by their hackers as an example,

      Take care of elementary security and hire an intelligent administrator in these offices is not destiny?
      The schoolchildren will endure them and the Chinese are not needed. They do not know how to use the Internet - cut it off ... completely.
      We received a letter with malicious attachments - I receive several of them a day. And I don't open it.
  5. SKVichyakow
    SKVichyakow 9 May 2021 09: 24
    +2
    The United States must be fought with their same methods. The question of the Indians, the Mexican territories seized by the USA, slavery, for which they should not kneel, but crawl in front of them, etc. Why are we ashamed? They will not have time for us.
  6. O. Bender
    O. Bender 9 May 2021 09: 29
    +2
    It seems to me that the United States is trying on the teeth of the possibility of rapprochement between Russia and China, no more. Tracking Beijing's reaction to what is happening around Russia, it is quite clearly possible to determine how China is able to be an ally of Russia. In my opinion, we need to consider the Chinese at best neutral, and at the maximum they are the first in line to go to Siberia and the Far East under the guise of snatching their piece of the pie. Russia does not have a single geopolitical ally. We will not consider Belarus, Kazakhstan, these are not strategic partners, but rather fellow travelers who can get off the train for a number of reasons. And yet I agree with sevtrash, China itself and Russia has only one choice, to confront the enemy alone. It has long been clear without a powerful and mobile economy, without a motivated population to withstand it is extremely difficult. The state of production, the ability to quickly implement the principle of Everything for the front, everything for victory, raise some doubts, and the lack of ideological education in the last two generations raises anxiety for motivation to resist the external enemy. We are the new generation 50+, well, maybe 45+, we won't last long. And we will be worthy of our grandfathers and great-grandfathers, all with the Victory Day!
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 9 May 2021 22: 22
      +3
      Quote: O. Bender
      It seems to me that the United States is trying on the teeth of the possibility of rapprochement between Russia and China, no more. Tracking Beijing's reaction to what is happening around Russia, it is quite clearly possible to determine how China is able to be an ally of Russia. In my opinion, we need to consider the Chinese at best neutral, and at the maximum they are the first in line to go to Siberia and the Far East under the guise of snatching their piece of the pie. Russia has no geopolitical ally. We will not consider Belarus, Kazakhstan, these are not strategic partners, but rather fellow travelers who can get off the train for a number of reasons.

      Can you list China's allies at a glance? There are probably as many of them as in Russia, in the sense of two - the army and the navy. China will not climb into Siberia, because it is absolutely not interested in the fall of Russia, because it understands perfectly well that it will be he who will be the next target for the United States. At the same time, the PRC perfectly understands that all the necessary resources (even in the event of a blockade from the sea) and safe routes for transshipment of goods in the direction of Europe are located in Russia, and therefore in the matter of resisting the pressure of mattresses and their sixes, Beijing can only count on to Russia. I will not say that we have unlimited friendship with the PRC, but at this stage of time both they and we are interested in maintaining each other as allies guaranteeing each other support in opposing the "hegemon", which, incidentally, was announced at the last press conference of the foreign ministers RF and DPRK through the mouth of Wang Yi - "Russia and China will coordinate joint efforts to counter the aggressive policy of the United States."
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 9 May 2021 09: 32
    0
    Washington constantly encourages those who consider themselves its allies - the countries of Europe, Australia, Japan, finding targets for them at least for information attacks.

    All kinds of tobaccos, and in fact many non-states in non-territories, have become promotions of the ideas of merikatosny. And the result of a possible military alliance with the PRC will affect everyone. And along the way - it will not seem to anyone. angry
  8. Antokha
    Antokha 9 May 2021 09: 54
    0
    If you conclude a military alliance with China, it would be worthwhile to write in it in plain text that the countries do not have and will not have territorial claims against each other within the framework of today's borders.
  9. Errr
    Errr 9 May 2021 09: 55
    +2
    Well what can I say? Anyway, it's better than the brothers, which is in the photo below, I won't be able to express the essence of what is happening.
    Who are you friends against?
    Arkady and Boris Strugatsky,
    Lame Destiny, 1982.
  10. Rash
    Rash 9 May 2021 10: 12
    0
    This is our mentality. Help your neighbor, drive the distant ones. BUT be on your own. We do not need someone else's, but we will not give our own.
    SGA - let's go.
    China - yes, we will help.
  11. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 9 May 2021 10: 14
    -2
    There can be only one topic for negotiations, Putin Mukhamor. Russia, the United States and China. They will even give us the land, with all the Nazis, just so that we can join the United States against China. will jar from the name of the islands and straits, the Severnaya Zemlya archipelago. We will take it without any American conditions, and we will be friends with China against the Sherkhan and Tobak.
    1. Yura
      Yura 9 May 2021 11: 06
      +1
      Quote: tralflot1832
      And they won't even vyakut when we move the Natsiks to the Severnaya Zemlya.

      Only we do not need all of these from the word in general, to Europe, the USA, Canada, with kicks, some under, and the execution of the sentence, to allow the relatives and parents of those whom they have lost.
  12. faterdom
    faterdom 9 May 2021 11: 57
    0
    Quote: sevtrash
    It is the United States that is now the most powerful country militarily and technologically.

    So we believe. And we know that it is the main country, and we remember that the burning of people in Odessa or the current scandal with the Czech Republic is their work, like the "Arab Spring".
    Therefore, we warn you strictly: we will not hit on the passport, which they always slip us with a fake, but on the sly redhead ... face, so we will call it.
    So that later there will be no offense, but better, we advise you not to bring it to this, but quietly shrink to your well-deserved, not desired appetites.
  13. Normal ok
    Normal ok 9 May 2021 23: 52
    +2
    The Chinese are fighting for global supremacy. And, for them, Russia is just a source of cheap raw materials. Alas..
  14. ustal1951
    ustal1951 14 May 2021 18: 57
    0
    Pindoras are showing off ...