"Moat instead of barriers": In Ukraine, they talked about the arrangement of the border with Russia

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The Yatsenyuk Wall or European Wall project has failed; instead of a network of fortifications on the border with Russia, an anti-tank ditch has been dug. This was told by the Head of the State Border Service of Ukraine Serhiy Deineko.

Kiev's widely publicized project for the construction of a fence line on the Russian border "Wall" has sunk into oblivion. Over the entire period of its existence, and the well-known Arseniy Yatsenyuk started it, it was possible to dig 400 km of an anti-tank ditch, install 100 km of a metal fence and wind 70 km of barbed wire. 2 billion Ukrainian hryvnias were spent on all this. The work is "completed" in the Kharkov region, in Chernigov they have just begun, and in Sumy they have not even begun.



Daineko admitted that there is no wall that would “protect” Ukraine from “aggressive Russia”. According to him, there are no funds for the completion, the government intends to allocate "only" 338 million hryvnias, so the help of sponsors is needed, who could pay at least for the purchase of barbed wire.

Recall that an ambitious project for the construction of protective structures on the border with Russia in 2014 was presented by the Prime Minister of Ukraine Yatsenyuk. Then it was announced that the Wall project with a length of 2 thousand kilometers would be implemented within 6 months, however, the allocated funds were plundered, and the completion date was postponed first to 2018, then to 2019 and then to 2021.

In the spring of 2020, Kiev announced that due to lack of funding, the completion of construction was postponed to 2025.
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  1. +14
    5 May 2021 18: 09
    But that is the wall. Only in depth.
    1. +25
      5 May 2021 18: 16
      Yes, this is called negative wall height. laughing
      1. +30
        5 May 2021 18: 22
        Have you built a wall underground? Suddenly they want to dig a tunnel, and there is a wall. Here it is.
      2. +15
        5 May 2021 20: 49
        Quote: Pilot
        Yes, this is called negative wall height. laughing

        And, how else, if they got the cerebral cortex from the oak ...
      3. +12
        5 May 2021 23: 26
        this is called negative wall height. laughing

        This is called competently signed acts of hidden works) Ukrainians can, they dug the sea ...
        1. +7
          5 May 2021 23: 32
          Here I was podzadolbali moderators VO ... Why change a Ukrainian to a Ukrainian? Was it a Ukrainian who killed my aunt and niece, or a Ukrainian? You will decide there ...
          1. +6
            5 May 2021 23: 35
            )))) (y to p
            Zadolbali! y to p
          2. 0
            6 May 2021 11: 56
            Quote: Ruslan Sulima
            Here I was podzadolbali moderators VO ... Why change a Ukrainian to a Ukrainian? Was it a Ukrainian who killed my aunt and niece, or a Ukrainian? You will decide there ...

            In fact, it is, a Ukrainian killed a Ukrainian, only one of them is a little more Ukrainian.))
    2. Cat
      +12
      5 May 2021 18: 23
      But that is the wall. Only in depth.

      This is true, but it is not so convenient to paint it in a bright color.
      1. +22
        5 May 2021 18: 33
        The wall is so great that it suddenly surfaced in Miami in the form of 24 villas. Wall-villa. Here it is. Arseny is building capital.
        .Former Prime Minister of Ukraine purchased 24 expensive villas in the American city of Miami. This is reported by the Ukrainian edition "Observer" with reference to the blogger Oleg Torgalo.
        The blogger himself, in his statements, refers to his friend who works in the real estate industry. The blogger called the received information "iron" and promised to conduct a journalistic investigation of this fact.
        “He told me about our hero of the Maidan - Arseniy Yatsenyuk. He, it turns out, recently flew to Miami and purchased 24 objects at prices ranging from one to five million dollars each, ”Torgalo said. It is reported by Rambler.


        On November 30, Yatsenyuk appealed to Western countries with a request not to "abandon Ukraine." He also stated about insufficient funding for the European Wall project - a wall on the border with Russia. According to the authors' plan, in the event of an offensive by the Russian army, the fortification system will stop the aggression.
        Earlier, a number of Ukrainian media outlets reported that the former head of the Ukrainian government moved with his family to the United States. As stated in the publications, the politician bought a house in Washington. It is reported by Rambler.
        https://news.rambler.ru/world/35440851-nash-geroy-maydana-yatsenyuk-kupil-24-villy-v-ssha/
        1. +4
          5 May 2021 18: 43
          The wall is so big that it suddenly surfaced in Miami in the form of 24 villas.
          This is how Ukraine gives birth to the scientific world new discoveries suitable for a Nobel Prize)) - the sizes are tamed in direct proportion to the number of Senya Yaytsenyukh's villas. wassat
          1. +4
            5 May 2021 18: 47
            Quote: Pilot
            The wall is so big that it suddenly surfaced in Miami in the form of 24 villas.
            This is how Ukraine gives birth to the scientific world new discoveries suitable for a Nobel Prize)) - the length and height are tamed in direct proportion to the number of Senya Yaytsenyukh's villas. wassat


            So now they are shouting that Russia is about to begin to attack. Ze needs to start building a second line of defense - a new underground wall, probably with access to villas somewhere in Goa (the main Indian resort).
        2. 0
          6 May 2021 00: 31
          well, this is the same as an oval one about the thieves of money from the Russians, he told-where-who and what
      2. 0
        6 May 2021 01: 27
        Quote: Gato
        But that is the wall. Only in depth.

        This is true, but it is not so convenient to paint it in a bright color.

        The entire wall is painted in zhovto-blakytny, all 2000 km and on top of the painting there are also forks applied with a gold stencil, every 2 meters. Can not see?
        Duck this is part of the hidden, you can even use the term "secret" or "underground" work.
      3. +1
        6 May 2021 02: 46
        The next step will be filling the ditch with water and launching piranhas there))))
      4. +1
        6 May 2021 09: 18
        But that is the wall. Only in depth.

        This is true, but it is not so convenient to paint it in a bright color.

        But loot can be collected forever for paint.
    3. +4
      5 May 2021 18: 30
      Quote: Gray-haired Zinnik
      But that is the wall. Only in depth.

      You wanted to say 404s deep in your brain? There is such a wall that even the brain has already ousted
      1. +15
        5 May 2021 19: 04
        Quote: Pete Mitchell
        Quote: Gray-haired Zinnik
        But that is the wall. Only in depth.

        You wanted to say 404s deep in your brain? There is such a wall that even the brain has already ousted

        There is a suggestion that this ditch should be buried, because he dug without the proper hatred of the Hressor, and then dig again, but with hatred am
        1. +5
          5 May 2021 19: 12
          Quote: Terenin
          There is a suggestion that this ditch should be buried, because he dug without the proper hatred of the Hressor, and then dig again, but with hatred

          Why is it dug out so "wavy"? Was a drunken hedgehog digging? Well, just like the traffic police carry out a strip in the center with white paint.
          1. +5
            5 May 2021 19: 25
            Quote: Egoza
            Why is it dug out so "wavy"?

            And, this hatred of the aggressor wavyly changed to the need to earn money in Russia.
          2. +8
            5 May 2021 19: 37
            Quote: Egoza
            Why is it dug out so "wavy"?

            Probably worried, shobe confuse the check and more km came out ..))))
            1. +6
              5 May 2021 19: 50
              Quote: xorek
              Probably worried, shobe confuse the check and more km came out.

              More, if only in the vertical plane laughing It is Americans and Westerners who are fighting corruption in country 404, and for the country itself, 404 is like a way of life. Bunny Yauenyuk out of Florida is broadcasting ...
            2. Cat
              +2
              5 May 2021 20: 56
              and more km left

              Exactly! The more zigzags, the longer the border. And the longer the border is, the larger the territory. The geometry is fellow
            3. +11
              5 May 2021 20: 56
              Quote: xorek
              Quote: Egoza
              Why is it dug out so "wavy"?

              Probably worried, shobe confuse the check and more km came out ..))))

          3. +2
            5 May 2021 19: 57
            So the diggers were paid for each running meter. So they scurried squiggles.
          4. 0
            5 May 2021 20: 39
            Quote: Egoza
            Why is it dug out so "wavy"? Was a drunken hedgehog digging?

            Yes.
          5. 0
            6 May 2021 00: 34
            the traffic police have not been around for 20 years and they are not at all marking the roads, they only straddle the roads and do not take any part in their maintenance and arrangement
    4. +5
      5 May 2021 18: 52
      Yes, don't care. Sofa warriors from the supreme zrada and all sorts of ministries (I suspect that the defense ministries) have no idea about the existence of fencing machines, pontoons, etc. They also do not know that the Soviet army (then red) even before the Second World War had the means to overcome any obstacles, incl. water. If they think that they will hide behind the Dnieper as a master across the ocean, then let them remember the landing on the Kuril Islands in 1945. For the Airborne Forces, I generally keep quiet, they are just infantry.
    5. +22
      5 May 2021 18: 57
      Oh svidomye and laughter and sin with you .. Well, as children are straight! laughing soldier

      Again, the cut allocated by the State Department ... Maybe send a photo to the Pentagon?
      This is 15 meters, and there are more ..))) Dig more, do not overstrain the main thing. laughing crying
      1. +10
        5 May 2021 19: 27
        Quote: xorek
        Oh svidomye and laughter and sin with you .. Well, as children are straight! laughing soldier

        Again, the cut allocated by the State Department ... Maybe send a photo to the Pentagon?
        This is 15 meters, and there are more ..))) Dig more, do not overstrain the main thing. laughing crying

        Vitaly, ask for dividends. They, next year, will budget the width of the ditch in accordance with your photo.
        1. +6
          5 May 2021 19: 30
          Quote: Terenin
          Vitaly, next year they will budget the width of the ditch in accordance with your photo.

          I burned them Gennady, oh, I can smell it .. laughing bully
    6. +10
      5 May 2021 19: 01
      the project "Wall" with a length of 2 thousand kilometers will be implemented within 6 months, however, the allocated funds were plundered,

      Please do not breach on Ukraine, stop in a country happily moving towards civilization, theft is not acceptable, especially the sacred hryvnia ...
      Well, if so ... trochie-trochie feel
      1. +5
        5 May 2021 19: 33
        Quote: Terenin
        Well, if so ... trochie-trochie

        Purely for sebe, trocha and no one will notice ... For sho? bully Eh farmers
    7. +4
      5 May 2021 19: 40
      Quote: Gray-haired Cinnik
      But that is the wall. Only in depth

      I saw a video on the network how the T-72 jumps such a ditch in an instant. This whole scam was meant to be cut. The protection is absolutely ghostly ...
    8. +2
      6 May 2021 10: 41
      If there is an anti-tank ditch in the photo, then this is not even funny. recourse
    9. 0
      7 May 2021 00: 27
      Homeless line laughing
  2. +6
    5 May 2021 18: 12
    No wonder. This is Ukraine. It's not even Zimbabwe.
    1. +4
      5 May 2021 18: 40
      Don't hurt Zimbabwe. But let them have more work. A completely useless and distracting tool.
      1. +1
        5 May 2021 20: 07
        Quote: 210ox
        Don't hurt Zimbabwe. But let them have more work. A completely useless and distracting tool.

        Dima prYuvet! Why are you distracting cabbage soup? Do they like borscht? wink
    2. +3
      6 May 2021 00: 13
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      No wonder. This is Ukraine. It's not even Zimbabwe.
      Let's remember about Zimbabwe ...
      zimbabwe money
      money zimbabwe
      Every resident of Zimbabwe dollar billionaire ...
      zimbabwe money bread
      $ 100 Zimbabwe ...
  3. +1
    5 May 2021 18: 15
    due to lack of funding, the completion of construction was postponed to 2025.

    There, first, on the "Great Budivnytsvo" project, they will raise money (roads, monuments, etc.), but by 2025 they will reach the wall. recourse
  4. +16
    5 May 2021 18: 16
    In the photo "Yatsenyuk's Wall". I would like to see their anti-tank ditch.
    well, it's just an appendage to what was written by the carrier.
    1. +1
      5 May 2021 21: 55
      Greetings!
      Interesting competitions. Directly looked with pleasure.
      hi
      Thanks for the video.
      1. Cat
        +4
        6 May 2021 00: 58
        Likewise! I always believed that shishiga is second only to a helicopter in cross-country ability.
  5. Cat
    +9
    5 May 2021 18: 16
    "European shaft" failed

    Nice pun.
    But the barbed wire must be used plastic - steel will be taken away for scrap metal, they will not disdain.
    1. +3
      5 May 2021 18: 21
      Presumably, with such a moat, somewhere there appeared a mountain that was not marked on the map, which also shifts the earth's axis.
    2. +1
      5 May 2021 19: 15
      Quote: Gato
      But the barbed wire must be used plastic - steel will be taken away for scrap metal, they will not disdain.

      You are wrong! They took it apart into the gardens in order to mark the border with neighbors.
    3. 0
      5 May 2021 19: 18
      By the way, by the way, such things are not accepted well, the volume is large and the weight is so-so.
      1. Cat
        0
        5 May 2021 20: 49
        By the way, by the way, such things are not accepted well, the volume is large and the weight is so-so.

        Here! I was not mistaken - a knowledgeable person confirms.
  6. +1
    5 May 2021 18: 17
    Sponsors, ay.
    In my opinion, there are no willing ones even among the Ukrainians themselves.
    1. Cat
      +3
      5 May 2021 18: 28
      We need to introduce a tax on fences. Built 3 meters of fence in the garden - build 1 meter on the border. Wow, the wall will be: with glaciers, sunflowers and cats on top. The aggressor will be moved and go around.
      1. +6
        5 May 2021 19: 09
        Quote: Gato
        We need to introduce a tax on fences. Built 3 meters of fence in the garden - build 1 meter on the border. Wow, the wall will be: with glaciers, sunflowers and cats on top. The aggressor will be moved and go around.

        While there, on the contrary, all the frontier gardens of residents are fenced with eggnets.
        1. Cat
          +2
          5 May 2021 20: 32
          While there is the opposite

          Yes, I did not take into account the local mentality. Then the moat is the right decision, it is harder to pull it away in the gardens. Although .. black soil fellow
  7. +1
    5 May 2021 18: 22
    Well, what do you want Yatsenyuk said, Yatsenyuk did. He is already in America, according to this scheme, a wall on the border with Mexico. As it seems to me, the wall there is in the same condition, that's what "specialist" means.
  8. +5
    5 May 2021 18: 26
    Build faster. And then the recruits are crawling, so at least they will be an obstacle.
  9. 0
    5 May 2021 18: 33
    instead of a network of fortifications on the border with Russia, an anti-tank ditch was dug
    I would not be surprised if the land that was dug was sold to Europe
  10. wow
    +6
    5 May 2021 18: 33
    Let them dig further. There will be where to pull them off, you just have to dig in.
  11. nnm
    +2
    5 May 2021 18: 34
    An excellent option for "cutting" budget money. And the main thing is that everything is patriotic. And you can then fly to Miami to live like Yatsenyuk
  12. KCA
    +3
    5 May 2021 18: 37
    IMR-2 is scary in anger, I wonder how long it will be stopped by the anti-tank ditch?
    1. KCA
      +3
      5 May 2021 19: 25
      Like this:
    2. Cat
      +4
      5 May 2021 20: 45
      for how long will the anti-tank ditch stop it?

      And he is not digging for IMR-2, but to observe the racial purity of Svidomo Brovkov. So it will be harder for them to interbreed with the Occupant Balls. wassat
  13. +3
    5 May 2021 18: 42
    Yaytsenyukh drank everything for a long time and was like that) I thought everything was safely forgotten, but no, the laurels do not give rest to the followers.
    1. +2
      5 May 2021 19: 18
      Quote: Victor Tsenin
      Yaytsenyukh drank everything for a long time and was like that) I thought everything was safely forgotten, but no, the laurels do not give rest to the followers.

      So all the time "The Wedding in Malinovka" is watched! And immortal: "This is mine, this is back to mine, I have not deprived myself?"
      1. +1
        6 May 2021 02: 00
        That's for me.
        It's for you again.
        It's back to you.
        This is all the time for you.
        What are you grabbing?
        What are you grabbing?
        No, I don't wear that style.
        I have not deprived myself?
        Honestly?
  14. +8
    5 May 2021 19: 08
    Where did we get this problem now?
    Right! Of the very Belovezhsky agreements signed by Yeltsin, which is now adored and revered in Russia, they compare with Peter the Great in terms of the "reforms" carried out.
    But in the objective history of Russia, Yeltsin will remain a traitor and tyrant who made statements to a drunken head "Swallow sovereignty as much as you can digest."
    It is from those treacherous agreements, from that vicious policy that this problem with Ukraine emerged!
    If we want to really solve it, then we must give due assessment to Boris Yeltsin and his activities at all levels. If Khrushchev in terms of Crimea illegally changed the administrative boundaries of the RSFSR, then Yeltsin simply drank the Crimea! After the signing of the Belovezhsky agreement.

    PS

    This wall will not break the age-old connection between the Ukrainian and Russian peoples. And in fact, one nation that was divided in 1992. Before that, there was one story for a thousand years.
    1. 0
      6 May 2021 01: 13
      Well, some people did not dissociate themselves from this crime, despite the words about "the largest geopolitical catastrophe." Feudalism, however, is a very vulnerable structure at the time of the departure of the suzerain. This will surely affect the Kiev, Minsk, and even the Moscow perdents.
      1. -1
        6 May 2021 02: 02
        Well, after all, in Ukraine, the turnover of power in the person of the president works. But in Russia and Belarus it has not been working for a long time. They became reclusive monarchs. The media loyal to them made icons of them for their own people.
        1. +2
          6 May 2021 02: 10
          You know, it’s better to let this turnover continue to work in Ukraine. And let Russia continue to rot.
  15. +1
    5 May 2021 19: 13
    Maginot Line.
    1. 0
      6 May 2021 08: 57
      How have the French offended you?
  16. +1
    5 May 2021 19: 14
    The project "Yatsenyuk's Wall" or "European Wall" failed. This was told by the Head of the State Border Service of Ukraine Serhiy Deyneko.

    This Sergey Deyneko knows nothing about political economics, the wall fell through - Yaytsenyuk rose.
  17. +4
    5 May 2021 19: 18
    The deeper the ditch, the less chances the RF missiles have to fly over it!
  18. +1
    5 May 2021 19: 19
    project "Wall", slowly turns, turns slowly to the project "BABLO".
  19. +1
    5 May 2021 19: 20
    Moat instead of barriers ": In Ukraine, they talked about the arrangement of the border with Russia
    ... The rabbit was ... a cunning rabbit, he got everyone, but more than once.
  20. 0
    5 May 2021 19: 26
    Neither the Yankee-Trump nor several of the Presses of the country U. wassat
  21. +2
    5 May 2021 19: 28
    The wall fell through the ground with shame. Here comes the moat laughing
  22. +1
    5 May 2021 19: 29
    Yes. This separation is costly for all of us. Instead of one army, 15 armies with a nationalist orientation. The liberals laugh at how we fed the Warsaw Pact. Now it will be much more expensive for us. And not only for us, all who were dreams in one bundle.
  23. +1
    5 May 2021 19: 42
    The "Great Ukrainian Wicker" was replaced with an equally great ditch. I suggest pouring water and running alligators.
    1. +3
      5 May 2021 19: 51
      Better to run the Nazis there. In concrete fins.
      1. 0
        5 May 2021 19: 55
        laughing Alligators and I are in favor.
  24. +1
    5 May 2021 19: 46
    And if the anti-tank ditch is still filled with shit, which in the Ukraine was called in the head of any big guy, then the tanks will definitely be afraid of this obstacle even more ...
  25. +1
    5 May 2021 19: 50
    Sema started working on the fence. Now that's who's in the ditch. There are no words.
  26. +1
    5 May 2021 20: 02
    What do you, colleague, prefer from cognac?
    From cognac, I prefer vodka.
    An excellent choice! ..
    For some reason, such a thought came. When viewing a photo. request
  27. 0
    5 May 2021 20: 09
    Let the flawed take on the costs of equipping the border ...
    It is reasonable!
  28. 0
    5 May 2021 20: 30
    2 billion Ukrainian hryvnias were spent on all this.

    How to deceive the deceived by deceit! We are waiting for the second series!
  29. amr
    -1
    5 May 2021 20: 31
    Quote: sabakina
    In the photo "Yatsenyuk's Wall". I would like to see their anti-tank ditch.
    well, it's just an appendage to what was written by the carrier.

    still gaz66 won!))
  30. +2
    5 May 2021 20: 33
    If the photo is related to the text, then it is not a wall and a ditch that can be seen on it, but a fence with a ditch ...
    1. +5
      5 May 2021 20: 41
      What country, so is the moat.
  31. +1
    5 May 2021 21: 18
    In parallel news there was information about the allocation of funds for the repair of aircraft engines. There are doubts that the same results should be expected as with the wall. Although, frankly speaking, we are not all right with the targeted spending of funds. All national projects are a continuous feeding trough for all interested, as "Guarantor" keeps repeating about it.
  32. 0
    5 May 2021 21: 18
    well, that's so impudent and cynical to wash the grandmother, it must be able to
  33. 0
    5 May 2021 21: 29
    they would have had more such initiatives.
  34. 0
    5 May 2021 21: 40
    These fools have nothing else to do. They never get it that all of Ukraine is the wall between Europe and Russia, beneficial only to the United States.
  35. +1
    5 May 2021 21: 46
    China built the wall in 3! century BC, the total length is 21 thousand km! which is half a diameter of the earth. But she didn't even save the Chinese. If someone needed it, the tricolor would have been over the Rada for a long time
  36. 0
    5 May 2021 21: 52
    The main thing now is not to tell the press where the grid is and where the ditch is) suddenly the tanks will actually climb into the ditches when the rest of the border, even without a thorn))
  37. 0
    5 May 2021 22: 40
    And that Ukrainians are not such suckers? And we still feel sorry for them, we say that these are not people, but individuals u laughing yes
  38. -1
    5 May 2021 22: 58
    Verifier:
    - Behind the plan, the crocodiles are guilty. De stink?
    Subordinate:
    - So it stinks, not frosty.
    - And vi scho?
    - So they decided to substitute for pigs.
    - And de pigs?
    - So why don't you eat fat ...
  39. 0
    5 May 2021 23: 47
    Quote: OrangeBigg
    The wall is so great that it suddenly surfaced in Miami in the form of 24 villas. Wall-villa. Here it is. Arseny is building capital.
    .Former Prime Minister of Ukraine purchased 24 expensive villas in the American city of Miami. This is reported by the Ukrainian edition "Observer" with reference to the blogger Oleg Torgalo.
    The blogger himself, in his statements, refers to his friend who works in the real estate industry. The blogger called the received information "iron" and promised to conduct a journalistic investigation of this fact.
    “He told me about our hero of the Maidan - Arseniy Yatsenyuk. He, it turns out, recently flew to Miami and purchased 24 objects at prices ranging from one to five million dollars each, ”Torgalo said. It is reported by Rambler.


    On November 30, Yatsenyuk appealed to Western countries with a request not to "abandon Ukraine." He also stated about insufficient funding for the European Wall project - a wall on the border with Russia. According to the authors' plan, in the event of an offensive by the Russian army, the fortification system will stop the aggression.
    Earlier, a number of Ukrainian media outlets reported that the former head of the Ukrainian government moved with his family to the United States. As stated in the publications, the politician bought a house in Washington. It is reported by Rambler.
    https://news.rambler.ru/world/35440851-nash-geroy-maydana-yatsenyuk-kupil-24-villy-v-ssha/

    There was already in history, and relatively recently, one rampart - "Eastern Wall", one Austrian artist pinned great hopes on it.
    And it was done throughout the Prussian Feng Shui and the rules of fortification.
    How it all ended, I think, there is no need to explain. laughing
  40. +4
    6 May 2021 00: 10
    And someday, an ordinary Russian soldier will write on the building glad ... satisfied with the ruins. I do not incite hatred between nations. But it is obvious that we didn’t start the conflict. Because where is Ukraine going ... I'm already ashamed to be Ukrainian, although what is there to lie, I am a half-Odessa Jew by my father
    How many children and people did they destroy with their shelling in Donbas? They need coal so much ... It is needed by those Rockefellers and others who unleashed World War II. To whom Kennedy was not appropriate and 2 happened ... when our division was raised to full combat readiness (I could hardly distinguish the encryption request not believing what is happening). the hero city of Clear, where one of the most combat-ready voivods stands. The head of the secretariat of the military registration and enlistment office at that time ... Should I say that I was scared? Crap looking at the falling towers
    1. -4
      6 May 2021 02: 52
      But they wrote a phrase that could not be understood otherwise than intervention. Ukraine attacked Russia? When? Russia claims that it has never fought a war with Ukraine. But it turns out you disagree with her. Is your dad still alive? If so, I have questions for him about your upbringing. I can show you a map created under the auspices of the UN, where the distribution of peaceful victims is far from only on one side of the line of demarcation of troops and on the opposite side it is not at all small either. I do not condone this from any side. And therefore you are not making excuses with only one? Did your dad or Odessa mentality teach you this? Rockefeller was a villain and an employee of the Nazis, but he did not start WWII. Did your dad teach you conspiracy theories? I doubt it. And while I was looking at the falling towers on the Internet at work, I said, albeit excitedly, but nothing more - this was to be expected, we warned about this more than once. wink
      1. +3
        6 May 2021 05: 05
        Quote: ironic
        Rockefeller was a villain and an employee of the Nazis, but he did not start WWII.

        Yes, yes, we know the official version of the "civilized" public: "WWII started the USSR by signing the Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact, and all the rest are white and fluffy."
        1. -1
          9 May 2021 15: 03
          The Molotov-Ribbentrop Pact certainly contributed to the war, but the pact itself does not fire.
      2. 0
        7 May 2021 01: 35
        My father defended the Avgan people, but I was not lucky to find the Chechen one. died in 2006. But we didn’t protect marijuana there. And Grandfather was wounded in the skull in Kwantun and survived. Our troops never stood .... Yes, Chechnya is a mournful mess ... but how is the murder of children in Donbas better ???
        1. 0
          7 May 2021 01: 40
          When I watch Beslan ... yes PPC So that Basayev in the next world So that his pigs ... But I have 2 = e already on my account.
        2. 0
          10 May 2021 12: 52
          Maybe he thought he was defending the Afghan people, but the people do not think so after a million killed. Who defended marijuana there?
          I sympathize with your grandfather. But the defeat of the Kwantung Army was a political, not a military, necessary step. The same as dropping the atomic bomb on Hiroshima. And your grandfather carried out the order. It's clear business.
          The killing of civilians is nowhere better. In Syria too. And there are peaceful casualties in Donbas on both sides of the demarcation line. I have already laid out a map of the distribution of such victims on the forum.
  41. -2
    6 May 2021 02: 25
    Damn, we built a system against Gaza twice for 3 years with the availability of funding and it cost 3 lard shekels and twice. And then 2 thousand km in six months and 2 lard hryvnia? Well, I probably don't understand something.
  42. 0
    6 May 2021 03: 52
    The anti-tank ditch-trench version, judging by the width and depth, is a miracle of the UKRALIN fortification thought ..
  43. 0
    6 May 2021 04: 43
    And here not everything, like people, tried to breed "rabbits" for the construction of barriers, but in fact they were all raised by the rabbit Arseny !!!
  44. ***
    "Dig, don't build!" ...
    ***
  45. wow
    0
    6 May 2021 11: 21
    "Yaytsenyuk" offered Trump assistance in building a wall on the border with MAEXICA !!! ??? Poor Americans, if they dock with h.h.l.a.m. and ...!
  46. 0
    6 May 2021 11: 32
    Well, in digging they are connoisseurs and eats experience.
    Black Sea Vikopali. :)
  47. 0
    6 May 2021 13: 22
    Quote: Garm
    How have the French offended you?

    Barlev's line Do you like it more?
  48. 0
    6 May 2021 15: 48
    2 billion hryvnia. $ 72 million. 400 kilometers. 180 American money (13500 rubles) per meter of ditch. Well, the prices at the local diggers.
  49. 0
    6 May 2021 16: 08
    I propose to dig up the "sea" on the border with Russia.
  50. 0
    6 May 2021 17: 04
    Enough already to spread and discuss nonsense from the mentally ill neighbors. Not if someone is interested in me on the drum.
  51. +1
    6 May 2021 19: 19
    Once the Ukrainians dig a ditch as deep as the Black Sea, it will be difficult for our sweet couple to cross.
    1. 0
      6 May 2021 20: 15
      Quote: Berkut752
      Once the Ukrainians dig a ditch as deep as the Black Sea, it will be difficult for our sweet couple to cross.


      They will be replaced by mounted Buryat divers.
  52. 0
    7 May 2021 11: 34
    Did you remember to let the crocodiles into the ditch?