Terms of withdrawal from the combat composition of the fleet of the last "Shark"

2 May 2021 110

Project 941UM Akula strategic nuclear submarine cruiser "Dmitry Donskoy" fleet another three to four years. It is reported by RIA News with reference to a source in the shipbuilding industry.

According to the source, the last "Akula", which is in the combat composition of the fleet, will serve until the full depletion of nuclear fuel, which will take 3-4 years. After that, a decision will be made on the final withdrawal of the submarine from service. Rebooting of the reactor with the corresponding repair work is not planned.

As the commander-in-chief of the Russian Navy Nikolai Evmenov said earlier, after the laying of two new APRKSNs of the Borey-A project, one of which will be named Dmitry Donskoy, the last Akula will remain just a numbered submarine TK-208 and will be used for weapons testing.

Thus, the words of another source in the defense industry are confirmed, who at the beginning of this year announced that the Dmitry Donskoy submarine missile carrier would serve for about another five years and would be decommissioned. The restoration of the submarine was called too costly and impractical.

The TK-208 Dmitry Donskoy heavy nuclear-powered missile submarine strategic submarine is the lead in a series of six Project 941 Akula submarines. Laid down at Sevmash on June 17, 1976, launched on September 23, 1980, commissioned on December 29, 1981. Today it is the largest submarine in the world and the last "Shark" in the combat strength of the Russian Navy. Three "Sharks" were disposed of not without "help" from the United States, two more are in reserve.

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RUSLAN

+14

2 May 2021 19: 55

Maybe you should leave at least one as a museum ???
1. Doccor18
  
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  2 May 2021 20: 00
  
  I do not know how about a tanker, but they simply have to make a museum out of one such boat. Memory for decades. This will never happen again.
  1. Barberry25
    
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    2 May 2021 20: 49
    
    well, maybe they'll put it on the joke, and on occasion, to the museum
    1. K-36
      
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      3 May 2021 01: 21
      
      Quote: Barberry25
      well, maybe they'll put it on the joke, and on occasion, to the museum
      
      As a friendly cartoon: can you tell me which museum you can go to "put"an exhibit of this size?
      1. Doccor18
        
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        3 May 2021 05: 47
        
        Yes, even to St. Petersburg. She, I remember, herself came there for the parade.
        Isn't there really 200 meters near the pier in our country for such a miracle of Soviet design thought ..?
      2. Barberry25
        
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        3 May 2021 09: 46
        
        to the Hermitage ...
  2. garri-lin
    
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    3 May 2021 00: 23
    
    The classic Orlan has already been written off the other day. Although the museum would have turned out to be excellent. And the Sharks will be written off in the same way. Unfortunately. There is no strength in the country to establish a normal patriotic education.
    1. Doccor18
      
      +4
      
      3 May 2021 05: 51
      
      Quote: garri-lin
      The classic Orlan has already been written off the other day. Although the museum would have turned out to be excellent.
      
      I absolutely agree.
      Quote: garri-lin
      There is no strength in the country to establish a normal patriotic education.
      
      Unfortunately, I agree with you again ...
    2. Petro_tut
      
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      3 May 2021 09: 44
      
      There is no strength in the country to establish a normal patriotic education.
      
      Dear colleague, Patriotism is not a populist phenomenon implanted from the top, it is a deep feeling that arises when interacting with your land on which you live and which you understand, and all attempts to impose it from the top will be smashed against the modern negative realities of society
      1. garri-lin
        
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        3 May 2021 10: 14
        
        It is precisely for unity with the earth, with roots, with ancestors that museums are needed. History lessons. Local for each region. A good example of living history. The museum is an element. Vvzhny.
2. xorek
  
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  2 May 2021 21: 27
  
  Quote: RUSLAN
  Maybe you should leave at least one as a museum ???
  
  It is unlikely .. There is a secret technology, they will cut it .. Or maybe I will upgrade again!
  Well, another naughty near the shores of the United States will lead, etc. .. They will stick to bastards
rocket757

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2 May 2021 20: 00

the last "Shark" will remain just a numbered submarine TK-208 and will be used for testing weapons
... This is also a SERVICE. And dangerous and difficult.
1. xorek
  
  +1
  
  2 May 2021 21: 33
  
  Quote: rocket757
  This is also a SERVICE. And dangerous and difficult.
  
  Victor agrees! And the devil is not their brother ..
  
  This is how we live and dive anywhere in the world .. !!
  1. YOU
    
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    2 May 2021 22: 36
    
    This boat had a sauna and pool. And they poured it with salt water at sub-zero temperatures. In particular, when surfacing at the North Pole. The guys told and showed a film about life on this boat. Very interesting. It would be better to leave it as a museum.
Castro Ruiz

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2 May 2021 20: 03

Will leave the last water carrier as museums khotelos bi but rather it will be cut into metal.
Nikolay Ivanov_5

+1

2 May 2021 20: 04

Recently, the Chinese in vain, perhaps, built the largest submarine "Sun Tzu" ??? Maybe the time has not yet come for the giants of the World Ocean ???
tralflot1832

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2 May 2021 20: 12
How huge she is!
1. Saxahorse
  
  +5
  
  2 May 2021 20: 29
  
  An underwater battleship however!
Alexander Kopychev

+9

2 May 2021 20: 23

Farewell "Sharks of Steel".
UVB

+10

2 May 2021 20: 36

One thing is not clear - the oldest APRKSN is still in service, and much newer ones are scrapped. What were you guided by when making decisions on the decommissioning of new ships?
Barberry25

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2 May 2021 20: 47

well ... on the one hand, it's a pity ... but on the other ... you need to count and look ... how much will the capital cost with modernization for anti-ship missiles ..
1. Dangerous
  
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  2 May 2021 22: 47
  
  What's the point of modernizing it? It was only good with an ICBM. If cruise missiles are put on it, then only if the barmaley are chased across the desert in peacetime. With its size and noise in a military environment, it will quickly be found and destroyed.
  1. Barberry25
    
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    2 May 2021 23: 10
    
    Well, for a number of operations it will do .. the Americans use Ohio .. + the current anti-ship missiles work at a range of about 1 km, Well, suppose that the Zircons are still finished to 000 .. although I doubt .. the main reason is what is the restrictions on the VPU. .And if you put a large TLU? Still, the difference is 1 meters + there are no restrictions on the diameter ... you can easily make an anti-ship missile with a range of 500-4 km. by order, he can drown the entire AUG, without even endangering himself .. Although under such a carrier I see more Dolphins ..
  2. Grits
    
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    3 May 2021 15: 27
    
    Quote: Dangerous
    What's the point of modernizing it? It was only good with an ICBM. If cruise missiles are put on it, then only if the barmaleevs are chased across the desert in peacetime. With its size and noise in a military situation, it will be quickly found and destroyed.
    
    If our leadership has no thoughts to use it even as a carrier of "Caliber", then it can be directed to other purposes. For example, it can be used as a kind of floating base in the Arctic. After all, this is a whole village with its own autonomous power supply. If the space for missile silos and equipment for weapons is cleared, then a habitable living module for hundreds of people is ready.
Moonsund

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2 May 2021 21: 04

Say our farewell cry
Harsh marine thread,
And do not rush into the sky with a seagull
Him from the navy chest.
Goodbye, goodbye, mainland!
You lead us a smile.
We will not see each other soon ...
And what lies ahead? ...
AC130 Gunship

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2 May 2021 21: 09

They made the Amers nervous. But it was a long time ago. As far as I understand, this boat has not been sailing to BD for many years. New missiles are tested on it, it is used exclusively as a test bed. Once these missiles are placed on the OBD, the test bed will no longer be needed.
1. Piramidon
  
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  3 May 2021 00: 13
  
  Quote: AC130 Ganship
  Once these missiles are placed on the OBD, the test bed will no longer be needed.
  
  And missiles will no longer be developed and tested?
D16

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2 May 2021 21: 13

Great picture.
Pavel57

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2 May 2021 21: 43

Quote: Bashkirkhan
There is no need to build such huge submarines. The project was very controversial from the very beginning. The formula "efficiency-cost" has won. While 667BDRM is "cost-effectiveness". The 941 had no chance of surviving after the collapse of the USSR. They didn't survive.
2 reactors for 20 missiles are ineffective.
1. YOU
  
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  2 May 2021 22: 48
  
  Everything is so, everything is so. But she could also shoot straight from the base. And the rockets are unique. And the design. I can tell right away that it is similar to landing boats. But they didn’t build this real project. And it was not for nothing that the Americans were in a hurry about the cut. But it's still sad. I am for the museum.
2. Grits
  
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  3 May 2021 15: 29
  
  Quote: Pavel57
  2 reactors for 20 missiles are ineffective
  
  Do you think there are fewer reactors on BDRM or Borea?
Babermetis

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2 May 2021 22: 15

40 years!!! This is the power of production technology!
1. ironic
  
  0
  
  2 May 2021 22: 47
  
  Ohio will last about 50. They were designed for 42.
hohohol

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2 May 2021 22: 51

And it would not be bad for her to surface off the coast of America and parade there along the entire coast. Let the audience freeze in anxious and delighted trepidation.
1. ironic
  
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  3 May 2021 00: 25
  
  They will simply be drowned for violating territorial waters. They did not negotiate with the RF Ministry of Defense for a direct telephone in Russian.
opuonmed

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2 May 2021 22: 54

maybe something can be done with her? research there or excursions there, etc.
1. YOU
  
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  2 May 2021 23: 13
  
  No, it's not too big. The design is unique, several cases are durable. And around a lightweight body. And it fills with water. And one way or another, this water has to be transported. And this is an empty load and too much cost.
  Quote: opuonmed
  maybe something can be done with her? research there or excursions there, etc.
  
  And then a super hotel will not work there, its own specifics, and what a rich man will go to sit in locked under water.
  1. 3danimal
    
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    3 May 2021 02: 17
    
    and what a rich man would go to sit in a lock under water.
    
    Why Submarine Life Sucks
    https://youtu.be/TkOO8qQ26bE
  2. region58
    
    0
    
    4 May 2021 00: 18
    
    Quote: YOU
    And around a lightweight body. And it fills with water. And one way or another, this water has to be transported.
    
    So it is with any submarine that has a light and durable hull. The light body is not sealed, there is water between the bodies.
2. Piramidon
  
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  3 May 2021 00: 15
  
  Quote: opuonmed
  maybe something can be done with her? research there or excursions there, etc.
  
  A cruise ship.
Osipov9391

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2 May 2021 23: 56

The destruction of the Sharks was purely political and not financial or technical. This is confirmed by the fact that this very old boat from the entire series was chosen as a platform for testing the Bulava. And the rest of the younger ships of this project were quickly withdrawn from the fleet and cut. Moreover, they were cut with the money of the USA and Canada, which were allocated in the 2000s.
An ideal battery could be obtained, carrying up to a hundred or more cruise missiles - 6 pieces in each silo. And such a boat could hold at gunpoint all NATO bases in the north.
The betrayal of the political elite, theft and corruption have done their job. The Americans, unlike us, will NEVER go to or will not fulfill any contract with us, which they consider unprofitable for themselves.
And so it happened. The first "Ohio" was remade for the carriers of the 154 "Tomahawks". And they didn’t cut it like we did it "Sharks". Moreover, the threat to us from these converted Ohio SSGNs has not diminished.
When disposing of "Sharks" (we will also add the theft of Western money allocated for this), tens of kilograms of precious metals, tens of tons of nickel, titanium, copper, aluminum scrap, hundreds and thousands of tons of good steel were recovered.
All this was plundered and stolen. Of course, the yacht oligarchs received additional ones.
1. YOU
  
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  3 May 2021 00: 13
  
  Everything is correct until they were afloat and the newest of the built SSBNs, contain 6 pieces, since there is already a series, it is not so expensive. It is not very efficient to transport water, but the reactor must be recharged more than once a month or even a year. And they carried a very serious potential. After everything has been cut and the rest has rotted, for the sake of one boat it may really make no sense. Let effective managers deal with this. Although they do not have any special "faith". But cut the newest boats first. And leave the oldest afloat. This is outright betrayal. And for some reason no conclusions are drawn. I mean "personalities". Full amnesty.
  1. Osipov9391
    
    0
    
    3 May 2021 02: 29
    
    Yes, because everyone was in the share and these people are close to the president. Ivanovs, Serdyukovs and the like. They put in the army and the navy, as a rule, like themselves.
2. 3danimal
  
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  3 May 2021 02: 12
  
  The first "Ohio" was remade under the carriers of the 154 "Tomahawks". And they didn’t cut it like we did it "Sharks".
  
  In Russia, there were no Tomahawks and money for these alterations.
  The United States organized loans that were spent on paying salaries to public sector employees in the worst years.
  Moreover, the threat to us from these converted Ohio SSGNs has not diminished.
  
  There are no restrictions on "conventional" nuclear submarines.
  Whoever can build and maintain as much as he can.
  We haven't caught up with Portugal (despite the promises) ..
  1. Osipov9391
    
    0
    
    3 May 2021 02: 27
    
    How was it not? There is RK-55 "Granat", there are long-range aviation missile launchers. They are easy to remake.
    And special modifications are not required - a "revolver" fixed for 6 missiles, for example, is placed in the mine. And the electronics on the boat is being finalized - BIUS.
    1. 3danimal
      
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      3 May 2021 03: 54
      
      There is RK-55 "Pomegranate"
      
      Only in the nuclear version, it was developed for this warhead.
      The accuracy was not enough to use a conventional warhead.
      It was necessary to make a new rocket on its basis. What happened - Caliber.
      there are long-range aviation CDs. They are easy to remake.
      
      Yeah, tell me what else is cheap.
      Salaries have to be paid, the work routes were blocked. Everything has its time.
      The Kh-55 had only a nuclear warhead. Here again the question of insufficient accuracy for a non-nuclear warhead.
      http://militaryrussia.ru/blog/topic-702.html
      
      Accuracy (KVO), Kh-55 up to 100m, Kh-55M / Kh-555 - up to 20m.
      
      What is it about. Small for 400kg high-explosive warhead, but suitable for 200-300 kT
      
      For comparison: Tomahawk block II (1986) gave KVO 10-20 m, block III (1993) - up to 10 m.
nnm

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3 May 2021 00: 11

Our era, damn it, is leaving ... if only the coming stage was not worse. Thanks to our ancestors for such a shield and a sword in our hands.
1. STORM 12
  
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  3 May 2021 00: 18
  
  systematically destroy the legacy of the PEOPLE
  1. nnm
    
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    3 May 2021 00: 25
    
    Not everything that we can withstand can withstand metal, microcircuits, wiring ...
    One must be able to part with the past. But you also need to be able to create the future. I do not know how it is accepted among the Moremans, but I would simply take off my cap in front of the boat, which kept them at depth. I really don't know how they do it ...
2. Vadim237
  
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  3 May 2021 00: 25
  
  There are Boreas in return.
  1. nnm
    
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    3 May 2021 00: 28
    
    This is already different .... I think, for the crews, the boat is like a child, like a part of you. And this is never to be forgotten. They will be both more modern and newer ... but each of them will forever remain your being, your soul ..
    But it’s me, the land one ... and I don’t understand those who have been autonomous on it for dozens, hundreds of days ..
    Therefore, you just need to honor her in the last (unfortunately, not extreme) campaign.
    I have the honor, Mrs. "Shark" .... "Raise the flag and jack !!! (I don't know if this command sounds right in the navy).
YOU

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3 May 2021 01: 04

I don’t know, maybe I’m not quite right. But as far as I know so far only a boat of this type was able to fire off at once with all the ammunition of 20 ballistic missiles. True from the surface. But as far as I know, no one has ever done anything like this either before or after, not from underwater, not surfaced. This type of boat is the only one that has confirmed this in practice.
K-36

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3 May 2021 01: 14

Quote: Artavazdych
Whenever the earth's axis is flipped 180 °. Then we have the bottom, and in Antarctica the top.

Uv. namesake, as it is difficult for me to understand you. In school (still Soviet), I was taught that the Earth's axis (passing through the North and South Poles) remains, as it were, unshakable, and the Earth rotates around this axis exactly 24 hours a day. And so that this axis "flips 180 degrees", I did not hear this in the classroom ... However, now a lot of things have changed in school programs, maybe I'm already outdated
STORM 12

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3 May 2021 01: 33

Quote: nnm
Not everything that we can withstand can withstand metal, microcircuits, wiring ...
One must be able to part with the past. But you also need to be able to create the future. I do not know how it is accepted among the Moremans, but I would simply take off my cap in front of the boat, which kept them at depth. I really don't know how they do it ...

be able to melt with what? with the pinnacle of underwater carblasting ...
st2st

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3 May 2021 02: 12

And when will the creatures in the Kremlin answer for the death of the Kursk? She did not "drown," as one acting president said. Every tragedy has names and titles
viktor_ui

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3 May 2021 08: 38

Candelabra interfere with bad dancers (like they can't find a worthy use except for sawing needles ... the most offensive thing is that such a product, not just to recreate it again - to further develop the theme of the gut of the new optimizers ... the legacy of the USSR is fading into oblivion. Burn on ... sad.
1. Adimius38
  
  0
  
  3 May 2021 12: 00
  
  Unfortunately, they laugh at us and get 80% in the elections.
Adimius38

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3 May 2021 11: 59

In fact, the well-known formula comes into play (NO funds) is too costly and impractical.) When our fleet and new hulls were cut on needles in the 90s or fused to ferrous metal in third countries, this was exactly what they explained to the common people. And little has changed since that time .... A wonderful 941 project that can still be used for various projects, they just try to cut and saw it, spending billions of budget funds on it.
petrol cutter

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3 May 2021 16: 12

Sorry. Very sorry.
People built / tried ...
Not surprised, though. Need to say...
1. petrol cutter
  
  0
  
  3 May 2021 18: 38
  
  Titanium is cut at once! For example, gas.
  But it is being cooked ...
  
  Yes, on such machines ... With such a degree of responsibility ...
  Are the professionals still alive? ..
  Our professionals - x-rays for the forty-fifth time pass ...
  And it would seem very experienced welded.
  And there, our welded ones have nothing to do. With such successes ...
Old26

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3 May 2021 17: 29

Quote: Paranoid50
Is not a fact. At least one, but they will leave it as a museum - SUCH ships should not just disappear.

They shouldn't, Alexander, but they disappear. About 40 years ago in the "Technology of Youth" magazine there was an article about maritime museums, more precisely, about ships-museums. And even then it was said that we had lost a whole layer of marine equipment. In fact, only two EMNIP surface warships are museum ships. These are "Aurora" and "Mikhail Kutuzov", and the latter can hardly be called a full-fledged museum. Unfortunately, museum ships are too expensive and not every country can afford to maintain such ships. Here it is necessary to make a museum similar to the state one in the waters of New York and put such a museum on a separate line in the balance of the state. Everything else is UNREAL. Any city WILL NOT PULL a full-fledged museum ship. After all, it is necessary not only to rebuild and repair it, but also to maintain certain mechanisms in working order. Alas, it is not given to us to see not "Lazarev" in the form of a ship-museum, and "Shark" too

Quote: xorek
Our "Shark" will still serve the Motherland! You bury her early "gentlemen" ..

She is already dead, although still in working order. Moreover, if the "Dmitry Donskoy" is laid down on May 9, then the numbered experimental boat will go into oblivion in a few years. Rather, even one of the 667BDRMs to be written off in the future will be converted into an experimental boat. So walk her until she runs out of fuel. And it hasn't been heard lately that "Dmitry Donskoy" has appeared somewhere. The Bulava tests have been completed - there is no new submarine missile yet.

Quote: RealPilot
Yes, sorry for the boat!
Could be converted into a carrier of "calibers" or "zircons". I remember these conversations.
The arsenal would have turned out to be a noble one, to the fear and envy of many underdogs ...

The conversations were exclusively in the media and the internet. Converting the boat into a KR carrier at the cost of EMNIP would be like 2,5 "Boreas". Besides, the situation turns out to be strange. When we talk about aircraft carriers, the main argument of AB's opponents is the following: Are we going to fight overseas with someone "? But when they talk about boats carrying the Kyrgyz Republic, for some reason they forget about this argument? Send Sharks from the Kyrgyz Republic to the coast. The United States should send them “for slaughter.” And against whom should they be used “overseas?” Against Yemen or Chad?

Quote: Doccor18
Yes, even to St. Petersburg. I remember she herself came there to the parade

She came to Kronstadt, not to St. Petersburg ...
Pavel57

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4 May 2021 10: 49

Quote: Gritsa
Quote: Pavel57
2 reactors for 20 missiles are ineffective

Do you think there are fewer reactors on BDRM or Borea?

"AKULA" - 2 water-moderated nuclear reactors OK-650VV, 190 MW each.
"BOREY" - OK-650V 190 MW.
Your truth is here - "DOLPHIN" - 2 reactors VM-4SG with a total capacity of 180 MW (older and less powerful).
Pavel57

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4 May 2021 10: 53

Quote: Old26
The conversations were exclusively in the media and the internet. Converting the boat into a KR carrier at the cost of EMNIP would be like 2,5 "Boreas". Besides, the situation turns out to be strange. When we talk about aircraft carriers, the main argument of AB's opponents is the following: Are we going to fight overseas with someone "? But when they talk about boats carrying the Kyrgyz Republic, for some reason they forget about this argument? Send Sharks from the Kyrgyz Republic to the coast. The United States should send them “for slaughter.” And against whom should they be used “overseas?” Against Yemen or Chad?

Perhaps the ships-arsenals make sense, but the alteration of the boat and such an arsenal is long, expensive, it is not clear under what type of conflict, and again the question of the stability of such a component of the weapon in the conditions of a weak fleet as a whole.
Pavel57

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4 May 2021 11: 13

Quote: YOU
Everything is so, everything is so. But she could also shoot straight from the base

It's a good idea to shut down one of the reactors and not go far out to sea. Don't dive deep. Like a swimming pool. Savings while maintaining punching power.
svoit

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6 May 2021 19: 03

Maintaining technical readiness requires money, some systems have already been defecting and extending the resource for five years already, but ... it's a pity, of course, there are pleasant memories of climbing it
Diverter

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6 May 2021 22: 04

I was unlucky, or vice versa, now I don’t know whether to become a Moreman. But in this case, I would suggest converting all the remaining boats of the project into the carriers of Caliber. And in non-nuclear equipment.
And the main task would be to patrol along the mattress stand and geyropa. Moreover, the patrolling is not secretive but, as it were, careless or something. The head of some Spain or Portugal, receiving every day a report from his Navy about the presence of a Shark with missiles at the border, which are ready to fly into the bedroom window, would think very hard about relations with the Russian Federation.
Well, as an option