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For the umpteenth time: do not hand over the currency, gentlemen

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For the umpteenth time: do not hand over the currency, gentlemen

Back there - but under control?



Sometimes you wonder how "big" business works in sync with the authorities in Russia. Moreover, it is not great in the sense of scale and social benefit, but in how much influence it has on the “rules of the game”. They may change as early as July 1, 2021 - a rate that is extremely rare for Russian lawmaking.

The fanfare has not yet sounded and the time has not come for deep analysis based on the presidential message, as the business community has received a new cause for applause. More precisely, not the entire business community, but only that part of it, which, according to all laws, must earn currency for the country through exports.

Based on that very date - July 1, the Ministry of Finance submitted for public discussion a bill that allows exporters to keep foreign exchange earnings in foreign accounts, bypassing domestic authorized banks.

This step is quite consistent after three years ago exporters (all, mind you) were given the right not to return foreign exchange earnings to the country. On one condition - it had to be backed up by the available possibilities to settle accounts with counterparties in the same place - abroad.

Now, as we can see, nothing needs to be reinforced (Foreign exchange controls are not for everyone).

Time for discussion, you see, is just barely enough, and who will be against such a "monetary freedom"? If only the stubborn members of the Communist Party faction, but we have long been accustomed to them when considering real "business proposals", in general, do not pay attention.

Such an old innovation


An innovation from somewhere in the 90s, when the complete currency freedom introduced on the wave of reforms became one of the reasons for a complete financial collapse. Yes, the authors have repeatedly disputed the very fact of a complete default in Russia, calling it a semi-default or, as Oleg Deripaska has now suggested, a quasi-default. This does not change the essence of the matter.


After August 1998, the government of Yevgeny Primakov and specifically the currency and export control service of the EEC needed titanic efforts to establish elementary order in the movement of dollars, Deutschemarks and all kinds of pounds and francs across the borders of Russia. And there and back.

Then, as you know, the EEC successfully went into oblivion, apparently, from an excess of powers - after all, President Yeltsin managed to make the service the coordinator of seven specialized departments at once, right up to the Central Bank, where at that time Viktor Gerashchenko was in charge, who surprised everyone by the fact that he did not the account is nothing against the omnipotence of the EEC.

However, why be surprised - the then Bank of Russia, unlike the current one, did not engage in very patriotic games with currency at all. Well, now a sigh of relief from those who are still “offended for the power” can only be caused by one provision of the bill - it does not concern all exporters, but only non-raw materials.

Law enforcement officers are asked not to worry


But excuse me, this, again, does not change the essence of the matter, since the export of raw materials is already under the strictest control that is only possible in our time. But under non-resource exports all potentially and really dubious operations are just disguised.

Finance Minister Siluanov did not make a reference to the President's message, where the fatherly concern for exporters was voiced not so straightforwardly. But he, representing a liberal, right down to the liver, legal initiative, did not hesitate to praise our long-suffering export business.

What are at least such passages worth:

"Repatriation (foreign exchange earnings - VO) and unnecessary requirements for foreign accounts hinder the entry of Russian business into foreign markets and do not contribute to the growth of non-resource exports."


Source: https://silaedinstva.ru

Or even more liberal:

"The current currency legislation significantly increases the transaction costs of companies, and in some cases leads to the illegal payment of fines."

Well, finally, now even to us, implacable skeptics, who believe that currency needs an eye and an eye, everything is clear.

It is even understandable why the state "gradually", according to Minister Siluanov, but very, very consistently follows the path of liberalizing foreign exchange earnings. The minister, looking back at the message of the head of state, decided to clarify something.

For example, that it will soon be possible to replenish foreign accounts for the transferred goods, information, work performed, services rendered and the results of intellectual activity. With the latter, in general, everything is great - you can earn even on the exclusive rights to them.

That is, if earlier numerous, in fact, Russian patents were sold mostly clandestinely, now the process, as they say, will go on, and it will go quite legally. All of the above will only need to be supported by foreign trade agreements concluded with non-residents.

Recall that a little less than three years ago, fines were canceled for non-repatriation (sorry for the clumsy term) currencies (Monetary paradise for offshore companies). Now on the agenda is the almost complete abolition of the repatriation of foreign exchange earnings. Although only in the non-resource sector.

And it will not affect only agreements that provide loans in foreign currency, as well as foreign trade agreements, within the framework of which advance payments were made to non-residents in foreign currency. The clause is not according to Freud, and, in general, very few people can get in the way. Only if they are new to foreign trade, no one invites them there.

On the other hand, they are clearly ready to invite experienced launderers who are ready for a reasonable fee to re-register almost any “raw material” transaction under a foreign trade agreement for the sale abroad of domestic products of the most, that is, deep processing. The same oil or the same gas.
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  1. Terenin
    Terenin April 29 2021 18: 05
    +22
    do not hand over currency, gentlemen
    I won't. Because I don't have it! request
    1. SERGE ANT
      SERGE ANT April 29 2021 18: 11
      +21
      Unfortunately, I also do not have foreign currency in my stash ... It's a shame, because people said buy as much as you can, when the American ruble cost 30 rubles ... I could not carve out extra money from the budget (due to their absence) neither then, nor even more so now ...
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins April 29 2021 18: 28
        +9
        And I, again, regret that in due time I did not buy these "candy wrappers", as some "analysts" call it, more than I have now. And there was an opportunity, and the expenses were moderate - no, he took and spent everything in his "relatives" ...
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 29 2021 19: 02
          +10
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          And I, again, regret

          And I regret that I didn't buy the cue ball in 2011, I could easily take a hundred. Eh, I would like to know in advance ...
          1. Xnumx vis
            Xnumx vis April 29 2021 19: 34
            +5
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            And I, again, regret

            And I regret that I didn't buy the cue ball in 2011, I could easily take a hundred. Eh, I would like to know in advance ...

            "If I knew the buy-in, I would live in Sochi" drinks
            1. vladimirvn
              vladimirvn April 29 2021 20: 11
              +5
              I live in Sochi without a buyout. I got it by accident. To live here, you need to work hard
            2. antivirus
              antivirus April 29 2021 20: 12
              +2
              - another option - to know where to lay the straw - would have thrown 3 sheaves of it on the bank of the Kolyma river.
          2. garri-lin
            garri-lin April 29 2021 20: 52
            +1
            It's easy to take. It's hard to save. The cue ball is a rolling piece.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 April 29 2021 21: 13
              +1
              No problem now. Then yes, there were difficulties. But one casual acquaintance on the cue ball got up and drove off to permanent residence in Spain.
              1. garri-lin
                garri-lin April 29 2021 23: 21
                +3
                From the year you specified, it was possible to adequately save the cue ball only on a special flashcard. Which at that time was expensive. Much more expensive than 100 cue ball. Or on sites with constant activity. In the form of translations.
    2. 210ox
      210ox April 29 2021 18: 14
      +5
      So we are on the planet (Splash) We have been sitting on wooden ones for a long time .. As for the currency, this is to those from another planet ...
      1. businessv
        businessv April 30 2021 00: 23
        +1
        Quote: 210ox
        We have been sitting on wooden ones for a long time .. As for currency, this is for those from another planet ...
        Here is what a Russian scientist-economist, Doctor of Economics, Professor Valentin Katasonov wrote about the attitude to the currency of our leadership, and most importantly - the sums.
        In total, the total withdrawal of capital from Russia in the form of a net outflow of private capital through legal channels (fixed by the balance of payments), through illegal channels (not reflected in the balance of payments) over the not very long history of the existence of the Russian Federation can be estimated in the range of 1,7-2,0, $ 2009 trillion. In the last twelve years alone (2020-505,7), the net outflow of investment income amounted to $ XNUMX billion. The most surprising thing is that the main supporter of maintaining the full liberalization of cross-border capital movement is the President of the Russian Federation, Vladimir Putin.
        Below he gives the reasons for his claim. Who cares: https://svpressa.ru/economy/article/296683/
        1. Hagen
          Hagen April 30 2021 06: 33
          +2
          Quote: businessv
          Russian scientist-economist, Doctor of Economics, Professor Valentin Katasonov.

          Do you want to recall the regalia of economists of the 90s, who carried out "shock therapy"? After all, they were all doctors, professors, academicians too. Each has a bunch of "works" and textbooks. How do you like the fruits of their practice? They are all, of course, smart and talented economists, while they are writing something. But the real withdrawal of the subject of the Federation, the Kurgan region, for example, from recipients to donors, the same Katasonov is not torn. Why? Because writing "justifications" is easier than implementing them.
          1. businessv
            businessv April 30 2021 10: 59
            +1
            Quote: Hagen
            Do you want to recall the regalia of economists of the 90s, who carried out "shock therapy"? After all, they were all doctors, professors, academicians too.

            Why talk about scientific degrees obtained in the Union? Why talk about people who have no idea about capital? Their task was not to preserve the state and its system, but to destroy it, helping those who govern it today! And then, there were only a few who understood where the process was going, but could in no way influence it. Today, one of these is the former presidential adviser on economy questions, Doctor of Economics. Sciences, Professor S.Yu. Glazyev. Who listened to him and why did he leave? He said real things, but today they look unattractive and the president does not like.
            Because writing "justifications" is easier than implementing them.
            And who will allow changing the system today? Where is Platoshkin today? Grudinin? Or do you think that those who are at the helm of the country today can voluntarily hand it over ?! It's funny! And then, you, too, in your post did not write about what, in your opinion, we can change, how and with the help of what, Katasonov talks about this everywhere and everywhere. It is possible to put things in order in money circulation and stop the robbery of the country within a year. Then the regions will come to life. I am talking about today, and you are trying to assess the past and turn the discussion into a different direction. It has been appreciated for a long time and judging by your feedback, you like EBNTsentr. I don’t. If, in your opinion, there is an economist in our country who has real proposals as of today, I am waiting for a link to the proposals, if not, there is no need to discuss this further.
            1. Hagen
              Hagen April 30 2021 16: 46
              0
              Quote: businessv
              It has been appreciated for a long time and judging by your feedback, you like EBNTsentr

              I do not quite understand the logical connections from which you could gather this inference. And this gives me reason to doubt that you understand what you are talking about.
              Quote: businessv
              And then, you, too, in your post did not write about what, in your opinion, we can change, how and with the help of what, Katasonov talks about this everywhere.

              And I am not trying to pretend that in the theory of the country's economy I can give impeccable advice. But I am sure that a theory, supported by practice of the appropriate level, is more trustworthy than simply, just told everywhere and everywhere.
              Quote: businessv
              Why talk about scientific degrees obtained in the Union?

              Katasonov, by the way, defended his doctoral dissertation in 1991, to the Soviet Higher Attestation Commission. But you take his opinion into account ... Glazyev defended himself in 1986 and 1990. One thing unites them - they are theorists. And Gaidar was given to steer when he was a doctor .... That's what I mean. But you obviously did not understand this simple idea. It happens.
              1. businessv
                businessv April 30 2021 18: 11
                0
                Quote: Hagen
                Katasonov, by the way, defended his doctoral dissertation in 1991, to the Soviet Higher Attestation Commission. But you take his opinion into account ... Glazyev defended himself in 1986 and 1990. One thing unites them - they are theorists. And Gaidar was given to steer when he was a doctor .... That's what I mean. But you obviously did not understand this simple idea. It happens.
                I perfectly understood your post and you. Were you interested in what topics were defended by the people you write about? For example, I know for sure. Gaidar proposed completely different measures and was subordinated to completely different people. Everyone knows how it ended. And again you are trying to get off the topic and blurt out the questions I have asked you. I insist on the previous sentence.
                If, in your opinion, there is an economist in our country who has real proposals as of today, I am waiting for a link to the proposals, if not, there is no need to discuss this further.
                And please do not write to me more on this topic, please!
                1. Hagen
                  Hagen April 30 2021 18: 53
                  0
                  Quote: businessv
                  Gaidar proposed completely different measures and was subordinated to completely different people.

                  A person at this level must carry out the ideas in which he believes. If he is broken, like a girl, and forced to do what is contrary to his ideas, then he must leave. Gaidar did not do this. In addition, Gaidar headed the financial and economic block in the government. Those. he did not work alone, but with a whole team of like him "doctors of science". So he was subordinate to the one who trusted in his, Gadara, ideas.
                  You ask, to whom would I entrust the country's economy? I do not know such a surname, I know whoever I would trust. I would not trust those who have not really achieved anything in a commensurate practice.
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 April 29 2021 18: 52
      +2
      Quote: Terenin
      Because I don't have it!

      Why not? Can't postpone the stash, or do you believe the ruble more?
    4. RealPilot
      RealPilot April 29 2021 21: 43
      +2
      Here the question is very interesting.
      In the next news, for example, the European Parliament proposes to disconnect Russia from SWIFT. This is not the first time such threats have been heard.

      What does this mean in practice? Stopping money transfers in dollars and euros. Since all non-cash (!) Payments go through correspondent banks, which, bypassing the swift and due to sanctions, will stop making transactions. That is, the funds in the accounts will seem to be, but they will freeze. Everyone in Russia.

      But the money in foreign accounts will not suffer, since the sanctions are already individual, not collective ... I see this as one of the countermeasures. And if you need funds to Russia bypassing swift - conversion to yuan or something else, but from foreign accounts ...
    5. Clear
      Clear April 29 2021 22: 25
      +2
      Quote: Terenin
      do not hand over currency, gentlemen
      I won't. Because I don't have it! request

      Money spoils a man. Therefore, there must be a woman nearby - to remove damage love
  2. nikvic46
    nikvic46 April 29 2021 18: 30
    +5
    I have never heard that these guys who left came to a foreign country for an empty deposit. This is investment, but not in our direction.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 April 29 2021 18: 36
    +5
    Sometimes you wonder how "big" business works in sync with the authorities in Russia. Moreover, it is not at all great in the sense of scale and social benefit, but in how much influence it has on the "rules of the game"
    ... That’s not surprising at all !!! This is the power of the rich and only for the rich.
    This is how it itself will not dissolve!
  4. Khibiny Plastun
    Khibiny Plastun April 29 2021 18: 41
    +14
    Well, who would have doubted? And taxes will be paid honestly? Who will now check how many resources have been sold. We are waiting for a new increase in taxes and tariffs for cattle. And the dissatisfied VaffenSS, ugh, then the bish will calm down the National Guard. The main thing is to be patient before the elections.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 April 29 2021 19: 03
      +5
      Quote: Khibiny Plastun
      The main thing is to be patient before the elections.

      And win them remotely! All the same, Grandmaster Uncle Vova! wassat
      1. Khibiny Plastun
        Khibiny Plastun April 29 2021 19: 57
        +3
        It doesn't matter how they vote, the main thing is how they think.
      2. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets April 29 2021 20: 19
        +7
        hi
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        All the same, Grandmaster Uncle Vova!

        More like a thimble. More precisely, a grandmaster among thimblers. The administration already "asks" us to take part in online voting for elections in United Russia. As I understand it, the platform for online voting is being tested.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 April 29 2021 20: 20
          +2
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          The administration already "asks" us to take part in online voting for elections in United Russia.

          I also received an offer for public services.
          Hello Alexey. hi
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 29 2021 19: 46
      +8
      Quote: Khibiny Plastun
      The main thing is to be patient before the elections.

      By the time of the elections (it may be so), except for United Russia, there will be no one left on the ballots.
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      And win them remotely! All the same, Grandmaster Uncle Vova!

      They also thought about Ostap Bender that he was a grandmaster. But it turned out that he only knew the move e2-e4 ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 April 29 2021 20: 03
        0
        Quote: ROSS 42
        They also thought about Ostap Bender that he was a grandmaster. But it turned out that he only knew the move e2-e4 ...

        So he won, remember? wink
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx April 29 2021 20: 05
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          So he won, remember?

          Frankly speaking, I don’t remember. But there is a video:
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 April 29 2021 20: 15
            -1
            "The horse does not walk like that" - laughing
            As for the "won", the memory failed ..... repeat
  5. Basarev
    Basarev April 29 2021 19: 06
    -1
    Is the ruble really needed when the country is so tight, I would say - all-embracing, depends on the currency? In my opinion, it will be much easier to switch to direct exchange and throw out this useless gasket. Or you can go even further - Zimbabwe threw away its statrillion candy wrappers and switched to the dollar, a great trick.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova April 30 2021 12: 38
      +4
      rubles can be printed and who will print dollars ??))))
  6. nnm
    nnm April 29 2021 19: 29
    +1
    Recall that a little less than three years ago, fines were canceled for non-repatriation (sorry for the clumsy term) currencies (Monetary paradise for offshore companies).

    Clauses 4, 5, Article 15.25 of the Administrative Code
  7. nnm
    nnm April 29 2021 19: 33
    +3
    Since Russian patents were sold mostly clandestinely, now the process, as they say, will go, and it will go quite legally.

    1. Flatter us very much
    2. What's wrong with getting out of the shadows? This means receiving taxes.
    3. Clause 1.1 of Article 309 of the Tax Code has not been canceled - 20% as an agent will immediately go to the budget (and earlier, as you write yourself, everything went underground). In almost all 80+ agreements on the avoidance of double taxation, the territory of sale will be recognized by the Russian Federation. For offshore companies - the general rule of clause 1.1 of article 309.
    Apparently, you are somewhat (for about 16 months you missed the novels in NK). And they are being introduced in parallel with the simplification of currency control and are only getting tougher. For now the Ministry of Finance performs this function through the Federal Tax Service, and not the Central Bank.
    4. But electronic payments, yes - this is a problem now. This term was introduced in the law on shaft control, but not in the instructions. And such transactions have completely dropped out of the total control (but they are taken into account in the Tax Code).
    1. nnm
      nnm April 29 2021 19: 48
      +7
      5. What happened with currency control about 3 years ago - you will not wish the enemy. I don’t know if you have come across him personally in practice - this is just a complete mockery - often for confirmation by customs (and this is interconnected), you had to submit data in an analogue of the program's customs. Not to mention that the limit was only $ 50.
      6. For those wishing to finally withdraw their proceeds abroad - there have never been any problems - there are options from investments to real estate. Foreign exchange control performed a completely different function than not allowing the withdrawal of proceeds - it kept it from leaving the tax jurisdiction. Now it is done by tax control and no worse.
      7. I will make a reservation - the obligatory sale of currency is an exclusively brief historical question and is introduced during the economic crisis. you can enter it in at least 1 day.
      8.
      ready for a reasonable fee to re-register almost any "raw" transaction under a foreign trade agreement
      we read NK, colleagues! This does not work at all (sorry, I am not writing articles this time).
      Sincerely, colleagues! hi (not sarcasm).
      PS I wrote on the road, that's why it's a little messy, but I think, since we speak the same language, we should understand the essence.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 29 2021 19: 57
      0
      Quote: nnm
      2. What's wrong with getting out of the shadows? This means receiving taxes.

      Receiving taxes? Life has not yet explained to you where and what the Russians' taxes are spent on? After 1:08
      [media = https: //www.youtube.com/watch? v = xmwlhtLHPsY & t = 211s]
      What they just did NOT do with personal income tax and a progressive scale of taxation, and they could ALWAYS hide in the shadows. Fuck knows, where did the fiscal tax authorities go?
      1. nnm
        nnm April 29 2021 19: 59
        +5
        Colleague, I perfectly understand your indignation and more than agree with you, but a different issue is being discussed in a specific topic.
        As for your post - the shadow economy is indeed greatly shrinking in the Russian Federation, the problem lies elsewhere - in the low efficiency of budget spending.
        And income is now easy to track. And this is done.
        Let me explain - now it makes little sense to simply "launder" money by withdrawing it into cash, for example, through an individual entrepreneur. It's a penny and you still get taxed. The Federal Tax Service closes completely gray schemes very quickly.
        The problem is different - we will transfer the asphalt (conditionally) through our offices a hundred times, withdraw the money to Rosnano (conditionally), and then legally drown them in useless, but their companies - tens, hundreds of billions will go to their companies. Moreover, they will leave more than legally. That is, the question is not in gray schemes, but in efficiency.
        1. Cheerock
          Cheerock April 29 2021 22: 06
          -1
          It would seem - who cares - where are other people's earned money, if taxes are paid from them? But no! )))
          1. dauria
            dauria April 30 2021 12: 47
            +1
            where are other people's earned money, if taxes are paid from them?

            Ask the United States what they care about other people's dollars ... laughing There is no economy without politics. Or to put it simply, "Politics is a concentrated expression of economics." The interests of the country do not always coincide with the wishes of its inhabitants.
            1. Cheerock
              Cheerock April 30 2021 14: 21
              0
              Quote: dauria
              where are other people's earned money, if taxes are paid from them?

              Ask the United States what they care about other people's dollars ... laughing There is no economy without politics. Or to put it simply, "Politics is a concentrated expression of economics." The interests of the country do not always coincide with the wishes of its inhabitants.

              The grass is green and the sun is yellow. But this has nothing to do with the fact that a person or company that honestly earned profit and paid taxes from it will now have the right to keep their money and "turnover" where, in the opinion of the owner of the funds, it will be more convenient and safer. This is their honestly earned money, now they will have the right to store it wherever they want. That's all.
              1. dauria
                dauria April 30 2021 18: 37
                +1
                This is their honestly earned money, now they will have the right to store it wherever they want.


                Where they are allowed by those in power. This is really "green grass". And that's all.
                The state can overnight take away not only "honestly earned", but also life. Not just like that, "out of harm". And for the state itself to survive. Do you want it differently - to the taiga according to the Lykovs scenario. There, no state will interfere, keep your earnings where and how you want.
  8. I do not care
    I do not care April 29 2021 20: 03
    -1
    I just don't understand why such a prosperous country like ours needs currency at all.
    the word of our President is not covered by any cut paper.
    We all remember his theses in May. Many of the few have experienced them.
    Housing with a salary of 2500 dollars was distributed, although it is extremely uneven. Sechin and Rottenberg could not evaluate it, due to insignificance. The rest are not given by status. Or they do not feel their benefits. Well, nafig, like, correct capitalism has not yet gained strength in our country.
    I'm just wondering, when everyone will be ordered to smear the same with petroleum jelly, who from VO will wear panties on her?
  9. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek April 29 2021 20: 43
    -1
    As long as the currency, the only means of accumulation of citizens
    1. garri-lin
      garri-lin April 29 2021 20: 58
      0
      And this is bad. Gold would be ideal. But alas, the law is stupidly written. Gold is a commodity. The Buy-Sell Difference is illogical.
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek April 29 2021 21: 13
        0
        The Russian Federation has many resources for this ...... angle, iron, oil, gas .......
        1. garri-lin
          garri-lin April 29 2021 23: 16
          +3
          Gas as an accumulation of citizens? Original.
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek April 30 2021 06: 47
            0
            Gas futures ..... for some volume.
            1. garri-lin
              garri-lin April 30 2021 09: 57
              +1
              Gold bars from 1 gram to 1 kg are much more reliable.
              1. Zaurbek
                Zaurbek April 30 2021 10: 00
                0
                Yes, but ....
                1. Storage ...
                2. When buying and selling, the state will take 100%
                1. garri-lin
                  garri-lin April 30 2021 10: 03
                  0
                  Gold storage? The average Russian will allow himself a maximum handful. For a rainy day. The main thing is not to talk and not to attract attention.
                  In India, home storage in precious metals is quite well developed. Including jewelry.
      2. nnm
        nnm April 30 2021 07: 44
        0
        Why? Any citizen can easily open an account in precious metals, even in multimetals in one basket.
        That is, the principle is as follows - you buy precious metals at the current exchange rate, and then your investments are adjusted to the dynamics of prices for precious metals on the market. Upon sale, it is converted into currency at the current exchange rate. So you can, at least gold, at least buy platinum for yourself in almost any bank.
        1. garri-lin
          garri-lin April 30 2021 09: 59
          0
          Will it be real gold that will be in the bank or will it be another financial bubble?
          1. Zaurbek
            Zaurbek April 30 2021 10: 01
            0
            That's right .... but it's better than ruble savings
            1. garri-lin
              garri-lin April 30 2021 10: 05
              0
              I honestly didn’t know. I’ll need to read it.
          2. nnm
            nnm April 30 2021 10: 38
            0
            You can buy ingots from 1gr. up to 1kg. on sale, mostly.
            You can, as you wrote above, open an account.
  10. Cossack 471
    Cossack 471 April 29 2021 21: 11
    +2
    The ruble is backed by 2500 tons of gold and billions of accumulated foreign exchange reserves. resources of the country and behaves like a "candy wrapper" of some African country I especially like the statement "currency speculators have brought down the ruble exchange rate" Show me these speculators. which are capable of bringing down the monetary unit of not the most impoverished country! Isn't it the central bank itself?
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek April 29 2021 21: 13
      +1
      How is it backed up?
      1. Victor Tsenin
        Victor Tsenin April 29 2021 22: 38
        -1
        It was said above-precious metal, and the tonnage is understated at times, exciting to the reserves of the Russian Federation, Zaurbek.
        1. Zaurbek
          Zaurbek April 30 2021 06: 48
          0
          Currencies have long been detached from money ..... there is some other relationship between gold and the country's currency
          1. Victor Tsenin
            Victor Tsenin April 30 2021 10: 27
            0
            Is this some kind of dissonance, currency is not money or money is currency?
            And I will additionally clarify something else, what is this?
  11. Victor Tsenin
    Victor Tsenin April 29 2021 22: 36
    +1
    Gentlemen, we are living in the era of capitalism, right now Aeroflot shares have fallen due to the well-known epidemic, if you buy at least these shares you can raise much more from the offers of banksters. We cannot change the system right now, but we can use it. Use, this is not an advertisement. And the word of the Lord jars me. There was a case when I was younger, I worked at the Universiade, everyone was deceived there, but not me, I got what was due. You can't change the system yet, use it and get rich, that's what I'm talking about.)
    1. nnm
      nnm April 30 2021 07: 51
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      Moreover, not only the shares of Russian companies are available, but practically all foreign ones (just remember to sign a tax non-resident form). Plus, the economy can cyclically buy stocks at their "bottom" about once every 10 years.
      But this is advisable only for medium and long-term investment. But in reality, most of our fellow citizens simply cannot afford it, to our great regret.
      1. Victor Tsenin
        Victor Tsenin April 30 2021 10: 30
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        Well, how to say, having conditionally invested 10K rubles in the shares of the notorious shipbuilding company Zvezda, I personally raised 1300 rubles in early March in a couple of minutes in the morning while I was driving to work. Just one example.
        But about cycles is no longer so fundamental, you see all this instability, which gives more opportunities from the other side)
  12. Lynx2000
    Lynx2000 April 30 2021 00: 02
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    After August 1998, the government of Yevgeny Primakov, and specifically the currency and export control service - VEC, needed titanic efforts to establish elementary order in the movement of dollars, Deutschemarks and all sorts of different pounds and francs across the borders of Russia. And there and back.

    I remember earlier (and now too) criminal liability was provided for the failure to return foreign exchange earnings from abroad. Moreover, at the beginning of the XNUMXs, the article of the Criminal Code of the RSFSR was working.
    We worked with regional offices for currency control. Then, an enterprise-resident of the Russian Federation (regardless of export / import operations, for commodity group goods, final products, services), it was necessary to obtain permission to open an account in a foreign bank or a foreign branch. For a foreign trade transaction, a transaction passport was opened, registered with the EEC, then banks were obliged to deal with such control. Under the terms, a foreign currency account was opened in a Russian bank, and residents, upon receipt of foreign currency earnings, were required to transfer part of the currency into rubles. The term for the return (receipt of foreign exchange earnings) of funds for products shipped abroad should not exceed 90 days, otherwise, there would be responsibility, administrative, then criminal.
    On the other hand, they are clearly ready to invite experienced launderers who are ready for a reasonable fee to re-register almost any “raw material” transaction under a foreign trade agreement for the sale abroad of domestic products of the most, that is, deep processing. The same oil or the same gas.

    I didn't understand the wording. If he "understood" the article correctly, foreign trade transactions for the sale of raw materials do not fall under foreign exchange control. Is the sale of finished products abroad not subject to such liberalization? Why disguise a "commodity" deal as a sale of finished goods?
  13. 123456789
    123456789 April 30 2021 06: 45
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    Look back goodbye and here she is
    Alien land underfoot
    Either birds are flying migratory
    Either rats flee from the ship
  14. APASUS
    APASUS April 30 2021 12: 39
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    Our authorities would be so worried about all sorts of "Colonels Zakharchenko" as worried about the dollar