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Ukraine lifted a Bayraktar TB2 UAV into the air and sent it to the borders of Crimea

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The Ukrainian press confirms the information that the Ukrainian Armed Forces raised a Turkish-made Bayraktar TB2 reconnaissance drone into the air and sent it to the borders of Crimea. In particular, it is indicated that the Bayraktar TB2 of the Ukrainian armed forces flew to the air borders of the Crimean peninsula.


Simultaneously with the Ukrainian Turkish-made drone near the airspace of the Crimea, there is a strategic radio-technical reconnaissance aircraft of the British Air Force RC-135W.

Earlier, the American strategic drones Global Hawk also approached the borders of Crimea. At the same time, it was reported that one of them for some time lost contact with the control base after approaching the borders of the LPR.

The UAV Bayraktar UAV, as reported by the Ukrainian media, including Defense Express, took off from the airfield in the city of Starokonstantinov, Khmelnytsky region. If this is true, then it turns out that the control of the "Bayraktar" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was transferred between ground stations. Indeed, according to the Turkish manufacturer Bayraktarov, the UAV's control radius from the ground station does not exceed 150 km, which is much less than the distance from Starokonstantinov to the Crimean borders. Whether the Ukrainian UAV could be controlled by the British RC-135W is still an open question. At least, nothing was previously known about such management.

It is noted that Bayraktar TB2 moved at an altitude of about 6 thousand meters with a maximum speed of about 230 km / h.

Earlier it was reported about the approach of a drone to Crimea, which was moving towards the Black Sea from Israel.
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  1. Invoce
    Invoce April 26 2021 16: 46
    +50
    Air defense zones and frequencies are probed. Ukrainians are already openly provoking Russia ... like a corrupt girl under the "protection" of pimps
    1. The comment was deleted.
      1. Clear
        Clear April 26 2021 18: 04
        +40
        Quote: xorek
        And sobyom, such a howl will rise

        You might think they sang lullabies to us before.

        hi
        1. xorek
          xorek April 26 2021 18: 41
          0
          Quote: Clear
          Quote: xorek
          And sobyom, such a howl will rise

          You might think they sang lullabies to us before.

          hi

          Yes, Yasnaya does not care about their barking, but their owners will begin to growl, well, you know how it happens .. hi
          1. Poseidon Neptun
            Poseidon Neptun April 27 2021 10: 56
            +2
            They have been roaring since 1917. Charge, growl and shut up. No one wants to die for nothing.
          2. VladBel
            VladBel April 27 2021 17: 44
            -2
            If a person is called an aggressor every day, he can shoot, at least into the air, and absolutely without casualties.
        2. Ruslan Sulima
          Ruslan Sulima April 26 2021 19: 38
          +3
          You might think they sang lullabies to us before.

          I fully support!
          And about
          Yes, they do not care about their barking Clear, but their owners will start to growl, well, you know how it happens

          So they never stop growling, they even bite ...
        3. SSR
          SSR April 26 2021 20: 44
          +9
          Quote: Clear
          Quote: xorek
          And sobyom, such a howl will rise

          You might think they sang lullabies to us before.

          hi

          Imha.
          This is the current shantrapa who actually declared war on the Russian Federation.
          That's the way it should be, put, freeze and plant over-praised bayraktar.
          PS.
          For stoned UAV adepts.
          UAVs, in fact, were not used against a serious enemy possessing not only air defense back and forth, but a full range of means.
          1. Kaman
            Kaman April 26 2021 22: 52
            -24%
            Are the S-300, Pantsir and Tor-M2 not serious air defense systems? All this was in service with the Armenians and was carried out by the Bayraktar and Harup.
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 April 27 2021 06: 37
              +4
              Armor? Torah m2?) With 300?))) Have you carried it out?))) With 300, even an ancient modification in general for other purposes) but about the first two it's funny to read) how can you endure something that is not?)))
              1. Kaman
                Kaman April 27 2021 08: 13
                -9
                Have you seen the video how the Harup hits the Tor M2, and then Bayraktar finishes him?
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 April 27 2021 08: 18
                  +21
                  Aaa) is this the one who drove into boxing?))) Forgot about him) well, I can also pile Valuev while he sleeps)))
                  1. lopvlad
                    lopvlad April 27 2021 17: 03
                    +4
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    is this the one who drove into the box?


                    if he had stopped by then he would have been able to fight back, otherwise he was stupidly standing in a closed box. They burn the equipment in the warehouse and then talk about its inefficiency.
          2. Poseidon Neptun
            Poseidon Neptun April 27 2021 10: 58
            +5
            It is logical! And then the myth of Bayraktar's invincibility will disperse like morning fog.
          3. xorek
            xorek April 27 2021 19: 19
            -2
            Quote: SSR
            For stoned UAV adepts.
            UAVs, in fact, were not used against a serious enemy possessing not only air defense back and forth, but a full range of means.

            That's right! Usually they expect a serious conflict and when this "swarm" is raised .. Then negative wink The main thing is to withstand and not burn our capabilities. hi
    2. Vladislav_2
      Vladislav_2 April 26 2021 17: 22
      -8
      apart from the frequencies of "krasukha and or" Divnomorye-U ", they are not capable of more yes
      1. IL-18
        IL-18 April 26 2021 22: 07
        +9
        It is necessary to agree with the Turks about any signal encodings there. We land the Ukrainian Batsraktars at our place. The Turks are selling it back to them in exchange for what was lost, like a new one, profits in total.
        Although, someone in Ukraine might guess. Then the profit of the Russian-Turkish holding will fall by a third. We'll have to share.
    3. Clear
      Clear April 26 2021 18: 03
      +15
      Quote: Invoce
      as a corrupt girl under the "protection" of pimps

      And what else remains to be done by the spiteful and powerless, in relation to Russia, the descendants of the former concentration camp guards.
      1. xorek
        xorek April 26 2021 18: 44
        +6
        Quote: Clear
        Quote: Invoce
        as a corrupt girl under the "protection" of pimps

        And what else remains to be done by the spiteful and powerless, in relation to Russia, the descendants of the former concentration camp guards.

        These grandchildren now rule, the Westerners have fled to Kiev, they are tired of grazing goats and collecting strawberries from the gentlemen .. There’s no way to knock them out now, and even merged with the Jews with money .. They complement each other and are united by terrible Russophobia!
      2. Vladislav_2
        Vladislav_2 April 26 2021 19: 25
        0
        "corrupt"!? .... I don't know what kind of "leadership and or brain" you decided to "spoil" my post! .... the point is that electronic warfare systems jam any approach of drones in their designated territory! .. .... what are YOU thinking ..... I h \ h
    4. hirurg
      hirurg April 26 2021 20: 48
      +3
      The terrible thing Bayraktar. Ugh mother tired already.
      They fall no worse than the American ones.
  2. skif8013
    skif8013 April 26 2021 16: 49
    +3
    They put it off slowly. But they can even play before, ours will land this bird.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 26 2021 16: 53
      +3
      Quote: skif8013
      They put it off slowly. But they can even play before, ours will land this bird.

      Such a convenient moment. Will it be a pity if they don't try?
      1. Stepan S
        Stepan S April 27 2021 16: 54
        +2
        The case is not very convenient, since a British radio-technical reconnaissance plane is circling there. Maybe a special drone was sent to provoke our electronic warfare to turn on, to study the characteristics.
    2. Ural resident
      Ural resident April 26 2021 16: 59
      +12
      Quote: skif8013
      They put it off slowly. But they can even play before, ours will land this bird.

      It makes sense to land everything at once, when it starts, and if only one - then it will only teach the enemy.
      1. xorek
        xorek April 26 2021 17: 13
        0
        Quote: A resident of the Urals
        Quote: skif8013
        They put it off slowly. But they can even play before, ours will land this bird.

        It makes sense to land everything at once, when it starts, and if only one - then it will only teach the enemy.

        Think correctly that is why we are constantly provoked by single UAVs ..
    3. venik
      venik April 26 2021 20: 54
      +10
      Quote: skif8013
      They put it off slowly. But they can even play before, ours will land this bird.

      ========
      Oh, it seems to me that the guys looked at this bird, like a "dormant" cat diligently portraying a drowsy state, glancing with a half-closed eyes at the brave little mouse, leaning out of the mink, expecting that he will cross the "red line" ......
      1. xorek
        xorek April 27 2021 19: 23
        -1
        Quote: venik
        Quote: skif8013
        They put it off slowly. But they can even play before, ours will land this bird.

        ========
        Oh, it seems to me that the guys looked at this bird, like a "dormant" cat diligently portraying a drowsy state, glancing with a half-closed eyes at the brave little mouse, leaning out of the mink, expecting that he will cross the "red line" ......

        In Syria, the same thing happens .. Keep silent and watch.! hi
    4. Stepan S
      Stepan S April 27 2021 16: 57
      +1
      The electronic warfare of the Black Sea Fleet has "landed" many UAVs of the Ukrainian military. At first they were picked up to see what was there, and then they even stopped picking them up.
  3. Zotov1981
    Zotov1981 April 26 2021 16: 53
    +5
    To be honest, I did not think that the Turks would sell drones to the Ukrainians. However, Motor Sich will make engines for Turkish turntables, as it turned out today. Hand washes hand, however ...
    1. APASUS
      APASUS April 26 2021 17: 08
      +2
      Quote: Zotov1981
      To be honest, I did not think that the Turks would sell drones to the Ukrainians. However, Motor Sich will make engines for Turkish turntables, as it turned out today. Hand washes hand, however ..

      What kind of trade relations will the Turks choose, with China or with Ukraine, if the Chinese take Motor Sich seriously?
      1. Zotov1981
        Zotov1981 April 26 2021 17: 15
        0
        Quote: APASUS
        This is still a grandmother said for two!


        The Turkish grandmother not only said, but already managed to sign the contract: https: //topwar.ru/182405-ukraina-budet-postavljat-dvigateli-dlja-tureckih-udarnyh-vertoletov-atak-ii.html
        1. APASUS
          APASUS April 27 2021 08: 44
          +3
          Quote: Zotov1981
          The Turkish grandmother not only said, but already managed to sign the contract: https: //topwar.ru/182405-ukraina-budet-postavljat-dvigateli-dlja-tureckih-udarnyh-vertoletov-atak-ii.html

          Do you hear for the first time how the West throws its "partners" with agreements?
          The International Affairs Commission under the French Senate made a report on the reasons that influenced the decision of Paris not to transfer the Mistral helicopter carriers to Russia. The parliamentarians said that this was due to external pressure from NATO.
    2. KCA
      KCA April 26 2021 19: 46
      +4
      It was smooth on paper, but they forgot about the ravines, what engines for the turntables will they do? TV3-117? How to pair them with Turkish helicopters? And mechanics, and electronics, and the fuel system, and even the exhaust, well, and kerosene, I think, ours is a little different from the NATA standards, should we collect Turkish turbines? At least 3 years will pass from the moment of receipt of the documentation to serial production, and this is under ideal conditions, three pieces a year to begin with, but in reality it will take about six years, and it’s not a fact that there will be no emergency with fireworks in the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
      1. not main
        not main April 27 2021 00: 01
        +1
        Quote: KCA
        How to pair them with Turkish helicopters?

        Here is the "key". Many compatibility issues can be solved, but create a MAIN REDUCER? IMPOSSIBLE! At least in these terms, and given that all the gearboxes were made on the territory of the RSFSR, this is simply not possible!
  4. jaroff
    jaroff April 26 2021 16: 54
    +12
    When the UAV flies in automatic mode along the programmed route, it does not care where the ground control point is. The range from the control point to the drone is important when manual control by the operator is required.
    1. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 26 2021 16: 58
      +1
      And if he suppresses all the electronics.
      1. boris epstein
        boris epstein April 26 2021 17: 05
        +1
        Or try to take control and plant on your territory.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon April 26 2021 17: 12
          +3
          Let's hope that the algorithm for controlling the "bayrakters" has already been studied by our air defense
          1. Stas Sv
            Stas Sv April 26 2021 18: 21
            -1
            I'm wondering how modern electronics would react at the Bouquet, Fasol and Lilac-D stations? As far as I know, even the phones were jammed - not the ones that are now, but those wired ones ...
      2. Beby
        Beby April 26 2021 17: 14
        +1
        Quote: Piramidon
        And if he suppresses all the electronics.

        And if he suppress the entire electronics, then (regardless of the distance from the control point) the UAV will fall from heaven to earth or into the water! And by the way, it will collapse quickly enough.
        1. alexmach
          alexmach April 26 2021 18: 01
          +1
          one difficulty - in order to "suppress" all the electronics, the "crush" must be delivered directly to the device itself.
      3. Pandiurin
        Pandiurin April 28 2021 20: 24
        +1
        Quote: Piramidon
        And if he suppresses all the electronics.


        This is done easily, you first need to catch the enemy UAV, place it inside a large microwave,
        it is advisable to open all technological hatches, one minute of operation at full power and all electronics are guaranteed to be "suppressed" (burnt out).

        Have you ever thought about working with your home microwave?

        The shielding is reversed, the magnetron is shielded. But if you talk on your mobile 10 cm from the microwave (0,8 KW), then not only will the mobile phone not burn out, but even the connection will not be interrupted.

        If the UAV is immediately designed with the expectation that there should be resistance to electromagnetic interference, then fairly simple and well-known methods can make it protected from burning out or "suppression". Electromagnetic interference in the industry has long been known as a way to deal with them.

        There is a communication channel that can be influenced, but there are also some nuances.

        You also need to take into account the electromagnetic beam is not a "spoke" (as opposed to a laser) but a diverging cone.
        Therefore, the power is attenuated in proportion to the SQUARE of the distance.
  5. OgnennyiKotik
    OgnennyiKotik April 26 2021 16: 57
    -2
    Indeed, according to the Turkish manufacturer Bayraktarov, the control radius of the UAV from the ground station does not exceed 150 km, which is much less than the distance from Starokonstantinov to the Crimean borders.

    1. The control range of the bayraktar from the ground launcher is 300 km. It turned out during the war for Karabakh.
    2. The TB-2S version has satellite communication and radar. In addition, a more advanced Turkish engine and optics.

    Rumors that more advanced versions of the bayraktar were delivered have been circulating for a long time.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder April 26 2021 18: 13
      -2
      Rumors that more advanced versions of the bayraktar were delivered have been circulating for a long time
      and if the modules of the ground-based MCC were simply transferred on board the 135th, they are still testing a solution - "head-on", for the future version of modernization and a possible offer to the arms market, when working with NATO partners (Turkey) and with applicants in the same place (Ukraine ), not a lot of equipment and in terms of mass it is quite possible to make, or just broadcasting telemetry and a control channel through this board !?
      1. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik April 26 2021 18: 22
        0
        It's pointless. You are a techie, how many times have you heard about “just” do it? At 135th everything is counted up to kilograms and amperes. Need to redesign. For what? What would a British plane fly Turkish and Ukrainian Bayraktar? The logic gap is obvious.

        How many kilometers from the launch airfield to the Crimea? (I'm sitting on the phone) If it is much more than 300 km then option 2, if less or a little more then 1st.
        1. Intruder
          Intruder April 26 2021 18: 41
          -2
          How many kilometers from the launch airfield to the Crimea? (I'm sitting on the phone) If it is much more than 300 km then option 2, if less or a little more then 1st.
          If from the base, in the city of Starokonstantinov, Khmelnitsky region, then more than 300 km., With a margin to the LDNR-border, plus the terrain for confident telemetry receptions in flight at such a distance! But still, why and for what to drive just like that, RC-135W is still an interesting question !? Or they studied on live bait what the Rushen tried to do an attack such as: GPS spoofing, for the Hawk's navigation system and "hammer" the control channels, putting it into an autonomous flight mode for returning and controlling when attacking in flight !? Or, the drone was a shock carrying "gifts", and 135 simply monitored the spectrum and "wrote" signatures, although this is already very messy for RTR! ??? belay
          PS Although the elements of versatility in deployment and upgrade testing are not entirely bad for NATO partners, it is such a simple idea for those who have or are about to buy 135 versions!
          1. OgnennyiKotik
            OgnennyiKotik April 26 2021 18: 50
            +1
            Maybe they worked for live bait, Bayraktar forced himself to react, the electronic warfare aircraft analyzed the means used. Maybe everyone flew in parallel with their own task.
            Guessing is pointless.
            The main infa is that Ukraine has a more advanced version of Bayraktar than previously thought.
            1. Intruder
              Intruder April 26 2021 21: 53
              -1
              Guessing is pointless.
              The main infa is that Ukraine has a more advanced version of Bayraktar than previously thought.
              Well, 90% on VO, this is what they do in the comments !? And others, read and study public opinion on duty ... probably, but this is not accurate !? bully
              About another model, this is the most interesting for the weeks of this, after the attack of the "Hawk" and the flight of U-2, by the way, you can see an old bird what they carry inside raises many questions from inquisitive minds!
              1. OgnennyiKotik
                OgnennyiKotik April 26 2021 23: 00
                0
                Everything is clear.

                This is Bayraktar TB-2S. They put it recently, at the beginning of April. Experiencing.
                Equipment from Turkish companies:
                New CATS optics and MIlSAR radar
                Satcom satellite communication system
                New TUSAS TEI PD-170 engine

                1. Intruder
                  Intruder April 27 2021 10: 37
                  -2
                  Everything is clear.
                  Colleague, your course is very straightforward, there will be a slightly curvilinear flight path, it's just so simple and straight on the map, but in real air traffic, the course is not laid in a straight line ... No offense !? drinks
                  1. OgnennyiKotik
                    OgnennyiKotik April 27 2021 10: 39
                    -2
                    Naturally, I was interested in direct radio visibility. She's gone. Accordingly, communication via satellite, even theoretical direct radio communication, is impossible.
                    1. Intruder
                      Intruder April 27 2021 10: 54
                      -2
                      Accordingly, communication via satellite, even theoretical direct radio communication is impossible.
                      At 600 km, theoretically and practically, in the HF band only, with tropospheric reflection, if !? But slowly (for data even in the burst mode of a digital radio network line) and not always reliable, in those latitudes!
                      At one of the past works, they finished off at 1 km., On a dispute with colleagues from the Far Eastern region of Russia on the radio, though the speed there was awful and there was a lot of noise in the background spectrum ...
                      1. Intruder
                        Intruder April 27 2021 11: 14
                        -2
                        and even now, long-range enthusiasts (even in the Russian Federation) are already raising their drones by 8 km., and by one and a half hundred km (my personal record, up to 80 km., was back in 2016)., in a home workshop custom assemblies are assembled: at 1200/1300 MHz., with a radio booster up to 10 W., plus telemetry on a narrow beam is hung at 900/433 MHz, like this:
  6. shurik
    shurik April 26 2021 17: 05
    +6
    moved to the Black Sea from Israel.

    ?? What is it like?
  7. nnm
    nnm April 26 2021 17: 07
    +2
    It looks like they are working out the interaction / transfer of control with the United States and Britain (screen from the original article):
    1. nnm
      nnm April 26 2021 17: 13
      +3
      TV2 - top track:

      Then, the transponder was turned off.
      1. ANB
        ANB April 26 2021 17: 48
        +2
        Zrada.
        It turns out that Crimea was recognized as Russian.
        For according to all "international laws" Ukrainians can fly over Crimea. And NATO was offered to fly. And then just around and that's it. :)
        1. Aurelius
          Aurelius April 26 2021 20: 20
          0
          Afraid of losing an expensive toy
      2. Dimka75
        Dimka75 April 26 2021 19: 43
        0
        TV2 - top track:

        you can see the route Nikolaev, Kherson, Nov. Kakhovka.
        There is a polygon in Aleshki. Sand 20x20 km. The APU is always training there. And what does the "border of the Crimea" have to do with it?
  8. Vlad Pervovich
    Vlad Pervovich April 26 2021 17: 11
    0
    why not knock down
    1. aslanismaili611
      aslanismaili611 April 26 2021 22: 24
      -6
      Quote: Vlad Pervovich
      why not knock down

      A lot of questions have accumulated in Russia, which as if there is no one to answer. And they try not to ask unnecessary questions. And why ask, if at the very top, as in the last years of the newly-minted dear Ilyich, they want to see and hear only positive things! About 20 years ago there, in high offices, they were afraid of only one "brand look" Sama! How many of us 7 years ago could imagine a war with Ukraine even in a bad dream ?! And today, does anyone here call Ukraine Ukraine ?! Everywhere you look, rabid propaganda. And the state TV channels have been turned into a circus. 20 years ago, when I was leaving Russia, I was happy to think that finally the one whom we all were waiting for came, and finally Russia found itself. Everyone pretends that everything is okay in the Danish kingdom. Society has turned into an amorphous crowd, morals fall like .... like ... well, like my rating, after each, in the opinion of the highly respected Administration of VO, inappropriate post. Sorry, I'm not myself today. I am angry today, Armenia is offended at us, does not want to trade with us. Drink 150 Ararat. Villains! Well, nothing, somewhere here I have steal, after all, popped Russian vodka. Oh yeah ... Well, good night everyone!
  9. DominickS
    DominickS April 26 2021 17: 16
    +1
    And British shit is right there. In order to probe the operating modes, apparently, if the device is taken for escort.
  10. Piramidon
    Piramidon April 26 2021 17: 18
    0
    Ukraine lifted UAV Bayraktar TB2 into the air
    How's that joke?
    - raise aviation !!!
    - Raise all aviation? But one pilot is sick, the second plane is out of order.
    -Lift up first!
  11. Baron pardus
    Baron pardus April 26 2021 17: 34
    0
    Over YOUR territory. It is over their own (and this does NOT include the DPR and LPR), Bandera can do whatever they want. But at the slightest violation of the air border, shoot down their UAVs mercilessly. Firstly - damage to the enemy without losing human lives, and without losing Bandera lives, secondly, practicing tactics to combat UAVs, thirdly, free training of air defense / electronic warfare calculations for real objects. Thirdly, a subtle hint to the Turks who have lost their scent that their UAVs are not a wunderwaffe. The fact that the Turks have learned to make good clones of pistols and rifles (and this is really so great their shooting range) does not mean that they have become a superpower.

    It would be very nice if several such UAVs "accidentally" fell on the territory of the Russian Federation or DPR / LPR. International incident. And whether they fell or they were dropped sAvsem is another question.
    Imagine that CUBA has started to launch its drones towards the US borders. Or is there Syria starting to launch its drones to the borders of Israel? What do you think the US / Israel would do with these drones? And do it accordingly. Why is Russia (or China, or Belarus, or Hungary) worse than the United States? International LAW applies to ALL.
    1. Volodin
      Volodin April 26 2021 17: 40
      +1
      Quote: Baron Pardus
      Over YOUR territory. It is over their own (and this does NOT include the DPR and LPR), Bandera can do whatever they want.

      The "territory" of the Banderaites is an underground "khovanka" in the forest. That's their whole territory ...
      1. Baron pardus
        Baron pardus April 26 2021 17: 50
        +1
        You are not right. The territory of each Bandera member is a little (10 times) less than a dugout ... Okay, you understand me. But the territory of the modern country named after Bandera is, so far, according to international law, THEIR territory (I hope that only for now). Above it, they have the right to do what they want. International law is such a thing. Even if their basic airplane buzzes 100m from the border, but from their side - their right. As well as the right of Russia INSIDE its country to move several dozen divisions as they want. But as soon as a UAV (or not a UAV) violates the border by at least 500m, any, ANY country has the right to shoot down everything that violated the border. Once again, what would the United States do with a Cuban UAV that would violate the US border? What would little Israel do with a Jordanian UAV, if it had crossed the border. What CHINA would do with a Japanese, or even an American UAV, cross the border of China. This is how you should do it. And whether such a UAV is armed or not - it does not matter. There is a fact - the UAV is an intruder. There is a potential for such a UAV to carry weapons of mass destruction (chemical or bacteriological weapons), and there is no need for other excuses to shoot down a UAV.
        1. Intruder
          Intruder April 26 2021 18: 08
          -1
          There is a potential for such a UAV to carry weapons of mass destruction (chemical or bacteriological weapons), and there is no need for other excuses to shoot down a UAV.
          Well ... you scare people completely belay , still nuclear tactical to the heap !? laughing Why and who should get involved with this, there problems will begin immediately, the Security Council will blow up, and has the right to "roll in" the embargo - and this is not a very funny situation for any small country and not very ..., plus commissions will increase by an order of magnitude in the affected territory ... yes
          1. Baron pardus
            Baron pardus April 26 2021 18: 31
            -2
            I say what Israel said at the time. That even the smallest aircraft can be used as a carrier of both chemical and bacteriological weapons, and it is necessary to treat every little thing flying up to the border just like that. It may not be possible to hang a tactical nuclear bomb on this Turkish Bayraktar, (although he will raise it), but containers / cassettes with strains of the Bubonic plague or something else of interest are easy. What is interesting about bacteriological weapons is that if you spray strains of something wildly disgusting over enemy territory to prove that it was you who sprayed it, it is very difficult. This is not a piece of a CD with the stamp "Boeing integrated defense. Made in USA". There are no stamps on viruses. And the Security Council will always, ALWAYS do what the US tells him - whoever dines a girl, dances her And sanctions, sanctions can be cut at any moment, and the US does not need reasons. They will turn it on when they deem it necessary, and they will not ask anyone.
            1. Intruder
              Intruder April 26 2021 18: 52
              -2
              but containers / cassettes with strains of the Bubonic plague or something else of interest - easily. What is interesting about bacteriological weapons is that if you spray strains of something wildly disgusting over enemy territory to prove that it was you who sprayed it, it is very difficult
              flight of imagination, why would an ancient plague, Covid-19 a new mutogenic stamp, or just fill up the air and the surface with anthrax, the air and the surface, it will be more challenging ... And about the "girl" from the Security Council, well, while her NATO partners are dancing, I agree here, such is life in foreign policy ...
            2. Pandiurin
              Pandiurin April 28 2021 21: 42
              -1
              Quote: Baron Pardus
              ... And the Security Council will always, ALWAYS do what the United States tells him - whoever dines on a girl, dances her And the sanctions ...


              How hard it must be to live with such a mess in your head. Why the Security Council is the girl who dances USA. In fact, it includes several countries, including Russia and China.
              But this is probably secret information, Tolya is dealing with drones flying over the territory of other states and containers with bacteriological weapons are falling from them.

              And you have not thought, well, supposing ... what would happen if such a drone fell on someone else's territory and there were containers on it ...
              All this will be documented and there will be direct evidence. Anyone who gave such an order to apply it will be sentenced to hanging, if not an international court then the country against which it was applied. And they will hang after all ...
              1. Baron pardus
                Baron pardus April 29 2021 00: 44
                -1
                There is one word in your theory - IF. You see, but this IF may not manifest itself for many decades. It is still not known 100% why the cruiser Maine exploded, and why the "treacherous" Spain turned out to be unprepared for war and the "unjustly attacked USA" were prepared for it. IF ... When the Germans sent "Luitisania" to the bottom, the whole world believed that "peaceful" Luitisania transported nothing but peaceful passengers. And then only later did the British themselves say "don't go there, there is ammunition" ... IF ... The Americans howled about how their "peaceful" destroyer attacked Vietnamese boats in the Gulf of Tonkin for no reason, and "the world community, led by The UN "rebelled ... And only recently the CIA, with downcast eyes, said that there was no attack ... Here's your IF ... With the correct planning of the operation, your notorious" IF "is practically excluded.
                By the way, about the fact that "IRAQ has weapons of mass destruction and he is a threat" was a fake, you do not need to say, and that the shaking of the test tube in the UN Security Council was nothing more than a cheap farce and a fake, and IF it was discovered, the Americans would have been disgraced, but what they were NOT detected forgeries (as well as weapons of mass destruction). But this is your notorious IF did not work.
                So what about China and Russia in the Security Council? Do you think China will fit in for Russia? Shas, will China fit into a country where those whom the Chinese consider the founders and teachers of their country are doused with slop? Do you think that Russia alone can do a lot? The USSR could, but now you have a completely different country, completely different people, a completely different elite, and most importantly, a completely different Leader. By the way, the Americans give MUCH more dough at the UN. Yes, whoever dines the girl and dances. Therefore, all these your indignations and IF it is from the series "spherical horse in a vacuum". The Luitizania, the Tonkin Gulf incident, the destruction of Iraq, the seizure of Grenada, these were all fakes and provocations on which your “If” didn't work. How many things do we still not know?
                For example, the rise of Hitler to power, and the people who surrounded him? Hitler's turn to the USSR, leaving the unfinished England in the rear, and this despite the fact that, unlike in 1812, the USSR did not trade with England. And he traded with Germany ... Hess's "Escape". Behavior of "Neutrals". Accidental (or not) departure of the newest aircraft carriers from Pearl Harbor just before the attack. The murder of the German ambassador to France, when the murderer was carefully guarded by the Germans and eliminated only in 1945. Yes, there are a lot of all sorts of interesting operations on which your notorious IF did not work.
                First, the drone must be shot down. Then prove that it was run from a neighboring country and not, for example, from some kind of "accidentally" flying past a "peaceful" liner. Or "accidentally" swam closer to the "peaceful" trawler. Suppose the drone can be identified, but it is impossible to prove who bought it. The black market for weapons is quite real, and it is not difficult to buy a drone there. On the containers themselves, in huge letters, "Made in Ukraine for the glory of Bandera" will not be stamped. Moreover, you can use old containers, be they Soviet, or even French ... PROVE that that is also necessary.
                Thirdly, understand that RUSSIA has NO allies, and NOBODY can fit in for it. from the word ALL. China will remain silent, and the rest will say as they are told by their overlord - the United States.
                And in this there is nothing "creepy, and horrible" just the US is doing what it thinks is necessary FOR ITSELF, others do not care. The opinion of "progressive mankind" does not care for them, and it is formulated relatively easily. Remind you of the farce at the UN with the test tube shaking? Or is it the madness of the "deadly virus" with a death rate of 0.15%? And that this year the flu, and tonsillitis and bronchitis have disappeared somewhere, only COVID has simply evaporated and disappeared everywhere.
                Your "IF" even if (yeah, taftology) works, then only after a while. Did Iraq help a lot that they did not find weapons of mass destruction? The country was rolled into a pancake. It helped the Germans a lot that the British confessed that Luitisania did transport ammunition? Not. Did not help. The Vietnamese were helped a lot that the CIA, with downcast eyes, declared that "There was no dog, Mr. Major, I dare to report I bit myself" (Yaroslav Hasek).? By the way, there are still a LOT of questions and ambiguities regarding 9/11.
                So this is your IF - a dubious consolation ... For example, for the Iraqis or the Vietnamese, and here and there it worked, though after a while, but it doesn't make it easier for them.

                Correctly planned operation and this "if", even if it works, works in 5-10 years, when no one cares anymore.
  12. cniza
    cniza April 26 2021 17: 38
    +4
    Simultaneously with the Ukrainian Turkish-made drone near the airspace of the Crimea, there is a strategic radio-technical reconnaissance aircraft of the British Air Force RC-135W.


    It looks like trying to probe the air defense system ...
  13. Light
    Light April 26 2021 17: 40
    +1
    I agree with the general opinion, obviously the dill provoked our air defense and electronic warfare systems so that the Anglo-Saxons could probe them.
  14. tlauicol
    tlauicol April 26 2021 17: 43
    -4
    Here on TV they showed how Bayraktar would be shot down with the Lancet. Funny good
    1. alexmach
      alexmach April 26 2021 18: 04
      +2
      What's so funny? A relatively inexpensive ammunition with a decent range and sufficient maneuverability for such a target.
      1. tlauicol
        tlauicol April 26 2021 18: 25
        -3
        Quote: alexmach
        What's so funny? A relatively inexpensive ammunition with a decent range and sufficient maneuverability for such a target.

        there is no speed / height. next to Bayraktar he is a pregnant turtle. And they dashingly rubbed along the central channels, as he beats them in a dive at 300 km / h. soldier So for this you first need to catch up. And even climb to the height yes
        1. alexmach
          alexmach April 26 2021 18: 35
          +1
          really. Bayraktar will not catch up.
          1. tlauicol
            tlauicol April 26 2021 18: 58
            -2
            Quote: alexmach
            really. Bayraktar will not catch up.

            But the dude who sells drones on the TV set up so handsome! Will go far ... at the expense of the state
  15. International Observer
    International Observer April 26 2021 17: 53
    +1
    Ukraine lifted a Bayraktar TB2 UAV into the air and sent it to the borders of Crimea

    ... It's time to end the history of modern Ukraine.
  16. Intruder
    Intruder April 26 2021 18: 04
    -3
    controlled by a British RC-135W - still an open question
    In general, they could mount the ground complex separately on the 135th volume, for the task with the "Ottoman bird", there is everything for this that is necessary - this is not a separate carrier to create, nevertheless!
  17. Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima April 26 2021 18: 33
    -2
    The cartoon was recalled when only "Goodbye Earth!" heard, but did not think about access codes ...
    Eh, I can't find this moment)
  18. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer April 26 2021 19: 15
    0
    "Bayraktars" are based in Starokonstantinov, together with "Su - 24". One has already been safely ditched))))
  19. hohohol
    hohohol April 26 2021 19: 37
    +1
    Apparently they expected us to jam Bayraktar, it was not for nothing that the British RC-135W dangled there.
  20. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets April 26 2021 19: 43
    +1
    yes knock down the shit and let the new ones buy
  21. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev April 26 2021 20: 26
    0
    Will you write about every action of the APU?
  22. Black lotos
    Black lotos April 26 2021 21: 44
    -2
    At the same time, it was reported that one of them for some time lost contact with the control base after approaching the borders of the LPR.

    previously invented nonsense, and continue to replicate!
    Even on other sources, they guessed to look at the trackers .. He returned to the base a long time ago. He did not lose anything, except that in the fevered brains of the patriots cheers.
    Why replicate not even a duck, but a dummy? To continue the holy work of blind faith, hurray for the patriots?
    Raise the "second Khibiny"?
  23. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General April 26 2021 22: 31
    0
    Ukraine lifted a Bayraktar TB2 UAV into the air and sent it to the borders of Crimea


    Well done, it's just as easy to send and lose))
  24. Caltar
    Caltar April 27 2021 00: 16
    0
    Why is it so weak, only one state drone was "frightened"?
    We must all, well, at least a couple, "land" and see what they have for the filling inside and immediately the sky will become clear. Especially from the neighbors, they will blow off the dust once a week and be glad that the equipment is intact.
    1. Alex Kozyrev
      Alex Kozyrev April 27 2021 06: 50
      0
      Are waiting. When it flies in. Although, even I have already come up with a couple of variks. Probably, any gamer-strategist will give a head start)))
  25. Alexander Terentyev
    Alexander Terentyev April 27 2021 01: 36
    0
    This goose must be shot down! It is not necessary to shoot - just fly the fighter nearby in supersonic mode - the UAV will fall down on its own.
    1. Semyonich from the Urals
      Semyonich from the Urals April 27 2021 05: 26
      -2
      That's right ... Get off the couch, sit down at the fighter plane and fly on the supersonic to bring down Bayraktars
      1. Lavr75
        Lavr75 April 27 2021 06: 03
        -1
        Bayraktar is very well destroyed from a helicopter. Cannon armament. The target is not maneuverable, not fast. But he did not violate the boundaries !!!
        1. Konnick
          Konnick April 27 2021 06: 46
          -2
          Bayraktar is very well destroyed from a helicopter. Cannon armament. The target is not maneuverable, not fast. But he did not violate the boundaries !!!

          Uh-huh. The ceiling at Mi -28 is 5 km, at Bayraktar is 8 km. As you were missed in Karabakh, as an adviser.
          1. Lavr75
            Lavr75 April 27 2021 07: 06
            -2
            Obviously, I got excited about the cannon. But the Mi-28 has long been hung up by the R-74M. Although it depends on the modification of the turntable.
          2. Lavr75
            Lavr75 April 27 2021 07: 38
            -2
            And did the Russian Federation take part there? Or does Armenia have our Mi-28, Ka-52 in service?
        2. Alex Kozyrev
          Alex Kozyrev April 27 2021 06: 48
          0
          I always read and regret. "Borders were not violated"
        3. Semyonich from the Urals
          Semyonich from the Urals April 27 2021 07: 04
          -6
          Actually, that's what we're talking about ..
          Not that they didn't break it, but they didn't even fly up to her ..
          But the stink in the comments ...
      2. Alex Kozyrev
        Alex Kozyrev April 27 2021 06: 55
        0
        And what do you think is not real? I don't think they can withstand an acoustic shock. But here the problem is aiming. There seems to be a little bit to make it work
  26. Lavr75
    Lavr75 April 27 2021 06: 01
    -1
    And if it, UAV, 1L222 "Avtobaza" intercept and put us. What will be the consequences? Failure of the control system. Or take them to our territory and shoot them to such and such a mother. It seems that MQ-5 was intercepted seven years ago and put in jail. I could be wrong.
    1. Semyonich from the Urals
      Semyonich from the Urals April 27 2021 07: 06
      -6
      Or just calm down. What do you care about an aircraft that flies through the territory of Ukraine?
  27. alex-sherbakov48
    alex-sherbakov48 April 27 2021 06: 09
    -1
    We must plant this Bayraktar !!!
  28. Alex Kozyrev
    Alex Kozyrev April 27 2021 06: 46
    0
    I have the audacity to ask. SO WHAT? Raised. As raised, and will be lowered
  29. Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn April 27 2021 08: 02
    0
    Ukraine lifted a Bayraktar TB2 UAV into the air and sent it to the borders of Crimea

    Sofa Special Forces - Fire !!! soldier
  30. Maxxcc
    Maxxcc April 27 2021 08: 28
    0
    And why did they raise the howl?
    RF conducts exercises on its territory. Ukraine is doing the same. Or is it different?
  31. Yuri Smolyanov
    Yuri Smolyanov April 27 2021 09: 46
    0
    And where are our glorious electronic countermeasures ?! It was necessary to immediately deprive this drone of control and send it to kiss the ground. And so with everyone, so that Ukraine does not disdain to irritate its peace-loving Russian neighbor ...
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  32. Last centurion
    Last centurion April 27 2021 12: 41
    +1
    Are they not afraid that it will fall due to the loss of control?
  33. Oleg133
    Oleg133 April 28 2021 10: 01
    0
    Quote: Poseidon Neptun
    They have been roaring since 1917.

    1856
  34. Protos
    Protos April 28 2021 17: 07
    +1
    Quote: Invoce
    as a corrupt girl under the "protection" of pimps

    According to the local language - Sher Khan's poviya lol