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The femme fatale of the house of the Romanovs. Bride and groom

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The femme fatale of the house of the Romanovs. Bride and groom
Nicholas II and Alexandra Feodorovna, 1908


In this article, we will talk a little about the last Russian empress, Alexandra Feodorovna, who was equally unloved in all strata of society and played a significant role in the collapse of the monarchy. First, let us briefly describe the state of affairs in our country on the eve of the accession to the throne of Nicholas II and during his reign.

On the eve


At the turn of the XNUMXth and XNUMXth centuries, internal contradictions became more and more noticeable in the Russian Empire. The split in society was growing. The middle class were few and far between. National wealth was distributed extremely unevenly and clearly unfairly. Economic growth practically did not affect the well-being of the bulk of the country's population - peasants and workers, and did not in any way improve their quality of life.

Russia, "lost" by the liberals and monarchists, even on the eve of the First World War was a poor and backward country. The bulk of the funds received from the export of grain, metal, timber and other goods remained in foreign banks and was spent on maintaining a high (European) standard of living for aristocrats, capitalists, financiers and stock market speculators. So, in 1907, the income from the sale of grain abroad amounted to a huge amount of 431 million rubles. Of these, 180 million were spent on luxury goods. Another 140 million settled in foreign banks or remained in restaurants, casinos and brothels in Paris, Nice, Baden-Baden and other expensive and "fun" cities. But only 58 million rubles were invested in the Russian industry.

It is not surprising that Russia not only did not catch up with the then industrialized countries, but, on the contrary, lagged behind them more and more. Let's look at the data on the annual per capita national income of Russia in comparison with the USA and Germany. If in 1861 it was 16% of the American and 40% of the German, then in 1913 it was 11,5% and 32%, respectively.

In terms of GDP per capita, Russia lagged behind the United States 9,5 times (in industrial production - 21 times), from Great Britain - 4,5 times, from Canada - 4 times, from Germany - 3,5 times. In 1913, the share of Russia in global production was only 1,72% (the share of the United States - 20%, Great Britain - 18%, Germany - 9%, France - 7,2%).

The economy was growing, of course. But in terms of the rate of its development, Russia lagged more and more behind its competitors. And therefore the American economist A. Gershenkron was absolutely wrong, arguing:

"Judging by the pace of equipping industry in the early years of the reign of Nicholas II, Russia would undoubtedly - without the establishment of a communist regime - have already overtaken the United States."

French historian Marc Ferro, with merciless irony, calls this thesis of the American

"Proof born of the imagination."

And it is difficult to expect objectivity from Alexander Gershenkron - a native of a wealthy Odessa family, who at the age of 16 fled with his father from Russia to the territory of Romania.

Pre-revolutionary Russia also could not boast of the standard of living of the overwhelming majority of its citizens. On the eve of World War I, it was 3,7 times lower than in Germany and 5,5 times lower than in the United States.

In a 1906 study, Academician Tarkhanov showed that in comparable prices, the average Russian peasant then consumed products 5 times less than an English farmer (20,44 rubles and 101,25 rubles a year, respectively). The professor of medicine Emil Dillon, who worked at various universities in Russia from 1877 to 1914, spoke about life in the Russian countryside:

"The Russian farmer goes to bed at six or five o'clock in the winter because they can not spend money on the purchase of kerosene for lamps. He has no meat, eggs, butter, milk, often no cabbage, he lives mainly on black bread and potatoes. Does it live? He is starving to death because of their insufficient numbers. ”

General V.I. Gurko, who commanded the Western Front from March 31 to May 5, 1917, was arrested by the Provisional Government in August 1917 and expelled from Russia in October of the same year, was a staunch monarchist. And he later argued that 40% of pre-revolutionary Russian conscripts tried meat, butter and sugar for the first time in their lives only when they got into the army.

However, the central authorities refused to recognize the problem of national poverty and did not even try to somehow solve it. Alexander III on one of the reports of the famine that broke out in Russian villages in 1891-1892. wrote:

“We have no hungry people. We have people affected by crop failure. "

At the same time, speculators were making huge profits by exporting grain from Russia, the prices of which were higher abroad. The volume of its export was such that on the railways leading to the seaports, congestions of trains with grain formed.

Many people know the "prediction" of Otto Richter, Adjutant General of Alexander III, who, answering the emperor's question about the state of affairs in Russia, said:

“Imagine, sir, a boiler in which gases are boiling. And around there are special caring people with hammers and diligently riveting the smallest holes. But one day the gases will pull out such a piece that it will be impossible to rivet it. "


O.B. Richter

This warning was not heard by the emperor. Alexander III also laid an additional portion of "explosives" in the foundation of the empire he led, abandoning the traditional alliance with Germany and entering into an alliance with recent opponents - France and Great Britain, whose leaders would soon betray his son.

Meanwhile, Russia and Germany had no grounds for confrontation. Since the Napoleonic Wars, the Germans have been desperate Russophiles. And until the outbreak of the First World War, German generals, when meeting with the Russian emperor, considered it their duty to kiss his hand.

Some researchers explain this strange step of Alexander III by the influence of his wife, the Danish princess Dagmar, who took the name of Maria Feodorovna in Russia. She hated Germany and the Germans because of the annexation by this country of Schleswig and Holstein, previously owned by Denmark (following the Austro-Prussian-Danish War of 1864). Others point to the dependence of the Russian economy on French loans.

But Alexander III was so sure of the well-being of the empire he was leaving that, dying, he confidently declared to his wife and children: "Be calm."

However, outside the royal palace, the true state of affairs was not a secret.

The inevitability of social upheaval and change became obvious even for people far from politics. Some waited for them with delight and impatience, others with fear and hatred. Georgy Plekhanov wrote in an obituary dedicated to Alexander III that during his reign the emperor "sowed the wind" for thirteen years and

"Nicholas II will have to prevent the storm from breaking out."

And this is the forecast of the famous Russian historian V.O. Klyuchevsky:

"The (Romanov) dynasty will not live to see its political death, ... will die out earlier ... No, it will cease to be needed and will be driven out."

And it was in these conditions that Nicholas II came to the imperial throne of Russia.

It is perhaps impossible to imagine a more unsuccessful candidate. His inability to adequately govern the vast country very soon became apparent to everyone.

General M.I.Dragomirov, who taught tactics to Nicholas II, said this about his student:

"He is fit to sit on the throne, but incapable of standing at the head of Russia."

French historian Marc Ferro states:

"Nicholas II was brought up as a prince, but not taught what a tsar should be able to do."

The state needed either a reformer who was ready to enter into dialogue with society and give up a significant part of its powers, becoming a constitutional monarch. Or - a strong and charismatic leader, capable of carrying out painful “modernization from above” with an “iron hand” - both of the country and of society. Both of these paths are extremely dangerous. Moreover, radical reforms are often perceived by society more negatively than an outright dictatorship. An authoritarian leader can be popular and support in society; reformers are not liked anywhere, ever. But inaction in a crisis situation is much more destructive and dangerous than radical reforms and a dictatorship.

Nicholas II did not have the talents of a politician and administrator. Being a weak and subject to the influence of others, he nevertheless tried to rule the state without changing anything in it. At the same time, despite the circumstances, he managed to marry for love. And this marriage became a misfortune for himself, and for the Romanov dynasty, and for the empire.

Alice of Hesse and Darmstadt


The woman who became the last Russian empress and entered history under the name of Alexandra Feodorovna, was born on June 6, 1872 in Darmstadt.


Princess Alix of Hesse, 1874

Her father was the Grand Duke of Hesse-Darmstadt Ludwig, her mother was the daughter of Queen Victoria of Great Britain - Alice.

In this 1876 family photo, Alix stands in the center, and to her left we see her sister Ellie, who in the future will become the Russian Grand Duchess Elizaveta Fedorovna.


The Hessian family in 1876

The princess had five names given to her in honor of her mother and four aunts: Victoria Alix Helena Louise Beatrice von Hessen und bei Rhein. Nicholas II often called her Alix - something in between the names Alice and Alexander.


Queen Victoria with her daughter Beatrice (standing behind), granddaughter Victoria of Hesse-Darmstadt and great-granddaughter Alice

When the brother of the future empress, Frederick, died of bleeding, it became clear that the women of the Hesse family had received genes for an incurable disease at that time - hemophilia from Queen Victoria. Alice was 5 years old at the time. And a year later, in 1878, her mother and sister Mary died of diphtheria. All toys and books were taken away from Alice and burned. These misfortunes made a very heavy impression on the formerly cheerful girl and greatly influenced her character.

Now, with the consent of her father, Queen Victoria took care of Alice's upbringing (his other children, daughter Ella and son Ernie, also went to Britain). They were settled at Osborne House Castle on the Isle of Wight. Here they were taught mathematics, history, geography, foreign languages, music, drawing, horse riding and gardening.

Even then, Alice was known as a closed and unsociable girl who tried to avoid the company of strangers, official court events and even balls. This greatly upset Queen Victoria, who had her own plans for the future of her granddaughter. These traits of Alice's character were aggravated after the departure of Ellie's sister (Elisabeth Alexandra Luise Alice von Hessen-Darmstadt und bei Rhein) to Russia. This princess was married to Grand Duke Sergei Alexandrovich (brother of Emperor Alexander III) and went down in history under the name of Elizabeth Feodorovna.


Grand Duchess Elizabeth Feodorovna, photo 1891

Alice's older sister was unhappy in marriage, although she carefully concealed it. According to V. Obninsky, a member of the State Duma, a homosexual husband (one of the main culprits of the tragedy on Khodynskoye field) is a "dry, unpleasant person" who wore "sharp signs of the vice that ate him, made the family life of his wife, Elizabeth Fedorovna, unbearable." ... She had no children ("Life" explains this with a vow of chastity, which the Grand Duke and the princess allegedly made before marriage).

But, unlike her younger sister, Elizaveta Fedorovna managed to earn the love of the Russian people. And on February 2, 1905, I. Kalyaev refused to attempt on the life of the Grand Duke, seeing that his wife and nephews were sitting in the carriage with him (the terrorist act was carried out 2 days later). Later, Elizaveta Fedorovna asked for a pardon for her husband's murderer.

Alice attended the older sister's wedding. Here a 12-year-old girl first saw her future husband, Nikolai, who was 16 at the time. But another meeting became fateful. In 1889, when Alice once again visited Russia - at the invitation of her sister and her husband, and spent 6 weeks in our country. Nikolai, who had managed to fall in love with her during this time, turned to his parents with a request to allow him to marry the princess, but was refused.

This marriage was absolutely not interesting and did not need Russia from a dynastic point of view, since the Romanovs had already become related with her house (we remember the marriage of Ellie and Prince Sergei Alexandrovich).

I must say that Nikolai and Alisa were, though distant, but relatives: on the father's side, Alice was Nikolai's fourth cousin, and on the maternal side, his second cousin. But in royal families, such a relationship was considered perfectly acceptable. Much more important was the fact that Alexander III and Maria Feodorovna were Alice's godparents. It was this circumstance that made her marriage to Nicholas illegal from the point of view of the Church.

Alexander III then said to his son:

"You are very young, there is still time for marriage, and, besides, remember the following: you are the heir to the Russian throne, you are engaged to Russia, and we still have time to find a wife."

The union of Nicholas and Helena Louise Henriette of Orleans from the Bourbon dynasty was considered much more promising then. This marriage was supposed to strengthen relations with a new ally - France.


Elena Orleansky

This girl was beautiful, intelligent, well-educated, knew how to please people. The Washington Post reported that Elena was

"The embodiment of women's health and beauty, a graceful athlete and a charming polyglot."

But Nikolai at that time dreamed of marriage to Alice. That, however, did not prevent him from finding "consolation" in the bed of the ballerina Matilda Kshesinskaya, whom her contemporaries called "the mistress of the Romanovs' house."


Matilda Kshesinskaya

By modern standards, this woman can hardly be called a beauty. A pretty, but unremarkable and expressionless face, short legs. Currently, the optimal height for a ballerina is 170 cm, and the optimal weight is determined by the formula: height minus 122. That is, with an ideal height of 170 cm, a modern ballerina should weigh 48 kg. Kshesinskaya, with a height of 153 cm, never weighed less than 50 kg. The surviving dresses of Matilda correspond to modern sizes 42-44.

The relationship between Kshesinskaya and the Tsarevich lasted from 1890 to 1894. Then Nikolai personally took Matilda to the palace of his cousin Sergei Mikhailovich, literally passing her from hand to hand. This Grand Duke in 1905 became the head of the Main Artillery Directorate and a member of the State Defense Council. It was he who at that time was in charge of all the military purchases of the empire.

Quickly finding her bearings, Kshesinskaya acquired shares in the famous Putilovsky plant, in fact becoming its co-owner - along with Putilov himself and the banker Vyshegradsky. After that, contracts for the manufacture of artillery pieces for the Russian army were invariably given not to the best Krupp enterprises in the world, but to the French firm of Schneider, a former partner of the Putilov factory. According to many researchers, arming the Russian army with less powerful and effective weapons played a large role in the failures on the fronts of the First World War.

Then Matilda passed to the Grand Duke Andrei Vladimirovich, who was 6 years younger than her. From him she gave birth to a son, Vladimir, who received the surname Krasinsky. But the boy got his middle name (Sergeevich) from the ballerina's previous lover, and therefore the ill-wishers called him "the son of two fathers."

Without breaking with the Grand Duke Andrei, Kshesinskaya (who was already over 40 years old) began an affair with a young and beautiful ballet dancer Pyotr Vladimirov.


Peter Vladimirov

As a result, in early 1914, the Grand Duke had to fight a rootless dancer in a duel in Paris. This fight ended in favor of the aristocrat. Local witches joked that “the Grand Duke was left with a nose, and the dancer was left without a nose” (plastic surgery had to be done). Subsequently, Vladimirov became Nijinsky's successor in the troupe of S. Diaghilev, then taught in the USA. In 1921, Andrei Vladimirovich entered into a legal marriage with his old mistress. They say that on the eve of emigration from Russia, Kshesinskaya said:

“My close relationship with the old government was easy for me: it consisted of only one person. And what am I going to do now, when the new government - the Soviet of Workers 'and Soldiers' Deputies - consists of 2000 people ?! "

But back to Alice of Hesse.

Her famous grandmother, Queen Victoria, also opposed marriage with the heir to the Russian throne. She intended to marry her off to Prince Edward of Wales. Thus, this German princess had a real chance to become Queen of Great Britain.

Finally, in Russia it was known about Alice's poor health. In addition to the fact that the princess was a carrier of genes for incurable hemophilia at that time (with a high degree of probability this could be assumed after the death of her brother), she constantly complained of pain in the joints and lower back. Because of this, even before marriage, she sometimes could not walk (and even during weddings, the newly-made spouse had to be taken out for walks in a wheelchair). We see one such family outing in this photograph taken in May 1913.


And this is an excerpt from a letter from Nicholas II to his mother, written in March 1899:

“Alix, on the whole, feels well, but cannot walk, because the pain begins right away; she rides through the halls in armchairs. "

Think about these words: a woman who has not yet turned 27 “feels good”, only she cannot walk herself! What state was she in when she was ill?

Also, Alice was prone to depression, prone to hysteria and psychopathy. Some believe that the problems with mobility of the young princess and by no means the elderly empress were not organic, but psychogenic.

The maid of honor and close friend of the Empress Anna Vyrubova recalled that Alexandra Feodorovna's hands often turned blue, while she began to choke. Many consider this to be symptoms of hysteria, and not of some serious illness.

On January 11, 1910, Nicholas II's sister Ksenia Alexandrovna writes that the Empress is worried about “severe pains in her heart, and she is very weak. They say that it is on a nervous lining. "

Former Minister of Public Education Ivan Tolstoy describes Alexandra Fedorovna in February 1913:

"The young empress in a chair, in a haggard pose, all red as a peony, with almost crazy eyes."

By the way, she also smoked.

The only person who wanted the marriage of Nikolai and Alice was the princess's sister, Ellie (Elizaveta Fedorovna), but no one paid attention to her opinion. It seemed that the marriage between Tsarevich Nicholas and Alice of Hesse was impossible, but all the calculations and layouts were confused by the serious illness of Alexander III.

Realizing that his days were coming to an end, the emperor, wanting to secure the future of the dynasty, agreed to the marriage of his son with a German princess. And this was a truly fatal decision. Already on October 10, 1894, Alice hastily arrived in Livadia. In Russia, by the way, one of her titles was immediately changed by the people: and the Darmstadt princess turned into "Daromshmat".

On October 20, Emperor Alexander III died, and on October 21, Princess Alice, who had been known until then as a zealous Protestant, converted to Orthodoxy.


Alice of Hesse-Darmstadt and Tsarevich Nikolai Alexandrovich, 1894

In the next article we will continue the story about Alice of Hesse, who, having married Nicholas II, became the Russian Empress Alexandra Feodorovna.

To be continued ...
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  1. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 1 May 2021 06: 26
    +7
    Probably the only good thing the Empress did for history was "put her hand" to the birth of the snack "Nikolashka")))
    Who does not know - a circle of lemon, half sprinkled with coffee, half with sugar.
    Alix forbade the emperor to drink and he was honored to pee cognac from a glass in a glass holder (like seagulls), and to have a snack with this set from the tea table!)))
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 1 May 2021 07: 35
      +8
      Who does not know - a circle of lemon, half sprinkled with coffee, half with sugar.
      And not cocoa and powdered sugar?
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 1 May 2021 08: 32
        +5
        I read about the option I pointed out. But you yourself understand - this is a long-standing affair, and no one has canceled the "damaged phone" yet)))
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 1 May 2021 09: 51
          +6
          hi Absolutely no complaints laughing Everyone claims in his own way, and not fundamentally, the main thing is that he at least had a bite. laughing
    2. bandabas
      bandabas 1 May 2021 09: 26
      +4
      Of course it's understandable - a typo, but probably "drink brandy" smile ... Although you can be honored for everything lol .
  2. Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 May 2021 06: 34
    +11
    First thanks to the author for the article! Valery touched upon the sore corn of many members of the forum, to the word "somehow" one-sided. Cutting off with a plane only negative features, statements of contemporaries and rumors. And I am writing this, a man who more than once or twice criticized Nicholas II and Alexander III.
    We have a popular saying “The husband is the head, and the wife is the neck. Where will he turn there and carry him. "
    If you were looking for fatal women in the house of the Romanovs, you had to start with the sister of Fyodor and Peter Alekseevich. Whether Maria Fedorovna guided the Germans, the answer is unequivocal yes. Whether she could influence her spouse - of course. Then we got what we got, but when asked who is the best of the emperors of the Russian Empire, I will answer Alexander III. Whom I respect for his personal qualities, he is not an adulterer like his father, not a tyrant like a great-grandfather, is unusually simple, modest in everyday life and, most importantly, did not fight.
    Could he have pulled Russia to the top, without political reforms? I am afraid it is not. But he formed the preconditions for a chance, alas, the "notorious chance" was missed by his son. Would there have been a revolution if Alexander lived another twenty years? I think so, but not during his lifetime. Whether we fought with Germany, the answer is unequivocal - yes. But only during World War II.
    Alexander the Peacemaker was not very simple, he had some kind of "peasant's grip", in his gut he felt when to break with force, and when he would step aside. You can't take such a show-off and a pinch of "allied" debt. Unlike his son, there was in Alexander III, something from the great-uncle of the "Byzantine", which suggests that having received a slap in the face from the Japanese mikado, he would not have gone to the "world" until he cut off all the Japanese wishes to the very Faberge. He could let down a grudge against him, but he never let down a grudge against his power.
    Good day everyone, happy holiday!
    1. VLR
      1 May 2021 06: 53
      +10
      Alexander III and his personality are, of course, a topic for a separate article. Here's an interesting point. All of this emperor is called "the most Russian tsar." But, if we look at him with an open mind, we will see a typical ... German (!): Such an average respectable burgher with all the advantages and disadvantages inherent in this type of people on the Russian throne. But at the same time, despite the blood, he was hostile to Germany.
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 May 2021 15: 10
        +2
        Quote: VlR
        But, if we look at him with an open mind, we will see a typical ... German (!): Such an average respectable burgher with all the advantages and disadvantages inherent in this type of people on the Russian throne.

        Valery, let me disagree with you.
        If we compare Alexander with his cousin Wilhelm, then a number of features can be considered German at a stretch. However, they are closer to the Slavic, even bourgeois-merchant style. Alexander is a kind of bear on the Russian throne, deceptively straightforward with character.
        An example is typical. I am writing from memory, I can embellish it a little. The Russian sovereign is at the station waiting for his cousin Wilhelm. Two meters tall, wide in bone - a bear-bear. In a shabby shirt, more than once or twice a darned wife, breeches and worn out countries. A retinue snakes in the distance. A train approaches, a small, puny Kaiser runs out of the train, in a ceremonial winter uniform, with a sword and huge jackboots, modestly holding his sore hand. Sovereigns in a nutshell greet each other in German. Here Alexander throws "chilly, my greatcoat" into nowhere. Two adjutants get down for the Emperor's greatcoat! Guess who beat them and brought the overcoat? Kaiser Wilhelm.
        I don't know about the historicity of the episode. I listened to Vivatenko.
        1. VLR
          1 May 2021 15: 33
          +5
          Speech about "burgher" character traits - the same notorious and uncharacteristic for Russian monarchs "tight-fisted" and thriftiness - in all respects. Striving to strengthen discipline at all levels. Even his closest relatives tried not to be impudent very much (and under the weak-willed Nicholas II they began to "compensate for the lost profit"). Atypically modest behavior for Russian emperors in personal life and the absence of numerous intrigues on the side, which all the Romanovs were "glorious", starting with Peter I. Here are both Catherines, for nothing that non-Russians (the first is not clear who, the second is a purebred German) so annealed that from the budget lumps flew in all directions.
          As for the anecdote about Wilhelm, everything is simple here: the Kaiser did not understand what was happening and why Alexander III suddenly began to break the excellent interstate relations that had been building for decades. And he desperately tried to please the Russian emperor in the hope that he would come to his senses and return to the reasonable policy of his predecessors.
          1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
            Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 May 2021 15: 46
            +2
            Gee, I consider myself a Russian - more than tight-fisted and thrifty. The working people in the outback are all like that, their souls are only for plowing.
            Intrigues, - Alexander Alexandrovich apparently saw enough of the parent, who "played too much".
            By the way, Alexander was an avid fisherman, he loved a dashing ride, he could boo and throw dust in his eyes. In my opinion, a purely Russian type of behavior. Although you are right Russian blood in it was minuscule.
            1. Korsar4
              Korsar4 1 May 2021 17: 25
              +6
              It's not just that. Even the verdict is "Miser - not stupid",
              Moreover, this has nothing to do with closeness and openness.
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 1 May 2021 19: 22
                +5
                Uh-huh. "In the kulak economy, and the bull's tail is a rope."
                1. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 1 May 2021 19: 25
                  +2
                  Yes. Therefore, Khlestakov's servant disposes to himself: "And the rope will come in handy on the road."
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 1 May 2021 19: 59
                    +6
                    But what about the breadth of the Russian soul? "Everything is in the trash! We live alone !!!"
                    1. Korsar4
                      Korsar4 1 May 2021 21: 34
                      +2
                      And this is combined.

                      “If you love - so without reason.
                      Kohl to threaten - so in earnest "(c).

                      И
                      “I took it from my own, I took it from the poor.
                      He was known as a Kashchei-muzhik "(c).
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 1 May 2021 21: 42
                        +1
                        "Little by little, but the further into the forest,
                        The closer the ax
                        Walked on earth without touching heaven
                        Executioner and thief,
                        Everyone was given exactly from birth,
                        Laughter and tears
                        You just know - choose your craft,
                        As it happened "(C)
                      2. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 1 May 2021 21: 46
                        +3
                        “Everyone chooses for himself.
                        Shield and armor. Staff and patches "(c).
                      3. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 1 May 2021 21: 57
                        +3
                        "How many years have passed, the wires are buzzing about the same
                        The planes are waiting for the same
                        A girl with eyes made of the bluest ice
                        Melting under machine gun fire
                        Someone has to melt

                        Dawn is coming
                        No exit
                        Turn the key and fly
                        You need to write
                        Into someone's notebook
                        With blood, like in the subway:
                        No way out "(s)
                      4. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 1 May 2021 22: 06
                        +3
                        “I am looking for a way out of the gate.
                        But, it is not. There is only an entrance.
                        And that is not the same ”(c).
                      5. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 1 May 2021 22: 18
                        +4
                        "Is this shelter bad, dear Gluck,
                        Compared to spending the night in an open field? "(C)
                      6. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 2 May 2021 02: 05
                        +2
                        "As the autumn wind whistles" (c).
                      7. depressant
                        depressant 2 May 2021 10: 43
                        +1
                        "Only then will you understand my poetry
                        When you spend the night in the field "(c).
                      8. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 2 May 2021 11: 05
                        +4
                        Basho has one of his favorites.

                        Christ is Risen!
                      9. depressant
                        depressant 2 May 2021 11: 10
                        +3
                        Truly risen!
                        "It's time for the May rains.
                        Like the sea shines with lights -
                        Lanterns of night watchmen "(c).
                      10. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 2 May 2021 11: 53
                        +2
                        “They told me that this road
                        It will lead me to the Ocean of Death ”(c).
                      11. depressant
                        depressant 2 May 2021 12: 15
                        +2
                        "and I turned back,
                        Since then, crooked, deaf roundabout paths stretch in front of me. "
                        Akiko Yosano, cowardice tank,
                        used by the Strugatsky brothers in the novel "A Billion Years Before the End of the World."
                      12. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 2 May 2021 12: 18
                        +2
                        Yes. My favorite is at the Strugatskys.
                      13. depressant
                        depressant 2 May 2021 13: 26
                        +2
                        There was a movie. With a non-professional actor. Called, if my memory serves me, "Days of the Eclipse." In restructuring. Based on the. And the book ... The atmosphere in the midst of the Soviet technical intelligentsia is remarkably reproduced. Very close so far.
                      14. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 2 May 2021 15: 25
                        +1
                        How many things can be distracting.

                        “We disguise in all ways
                        His lack of will, weakness, cowardice, laziness ”(c).
                      15. depressant
                        depressant 2 May 2021 15: 43
                        +2
                        Yes, "Faust" ...
                        We drape in every way
                        His lack of will, cowardice, weakness, laziness.
                        The burden serves as a screen of compassion,
                        And conscience, and any rubbish.
                        Then all the excuses, all the excuses,
                        To make a commotion in my soul.
                        Now this is a house, then children, then a wife,
                        Now the fear of poison, then the fear of arson,
                        But only nonsense, but a false alarm,
                        But fiction, but imaginary guilt.


                        What a god I am! I know my appearance.
                        I'm a blind worm, I'm nature's stepson
                        Which swallows dust before itself
                        And dies under the foot of a pedestrian.

                        There are people who have not read Faust.
                      16. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 2 May 2021 15: 46
                        +2
                        One of the heights of human thought.

                        Power is in every word.

                        "And then, then they call the spirit of the times -
                        There is a spirit of professors, and their concepts,
                        Which these gentlemen, inappropriate,
                        They give out for true antiquity ”(c).
                      17. depressant
                        depressant 2 May 2021 15: 52
                        +2
                        About people like Goethe - Basho:
                        Stork's nest in the wind.
                        And below it - beyond the storm -
                        Cherry has a calm color.
                      18. Korsar4
                        Korsar4 2 May 2021 15: 56
                        +2
                        “How His speech is calm and soft.
                        We get along without spoiling our relationship with Him ”(c).
                      19. depressant
                        depressant 2 May 2021 16: 47
                        +2
                        "The old man has a beautiful feature
                        So human to think about the devil. "
                2. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 2 May 2021 17: 09
                  +3
                  There are people who have not even read "Hamlet" ...
                3. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 2 May 2021 18: 02
                  +2
                  It happens.
                  There are many anecdotes on this topic.
                4. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 2 May 2021 18: 06
                  +1
                  Alas, they passed me by.
                5. Korsar4
                  Korsar4 2 May 2021 18: 46
                  +2
                  Surely I've heard: "Chukchi is not a reader, Chukchi is a writer" and "Why are you bothering me with your gang?"
  3. Offliner
    Offliner 5 May 2021 03: 35
    +1
    Not in Eclipse? Sorry for my education.
  4. depressant
    depressant 5 May 2021 09: 08
    0
    Dear colleague, if we are talking about the same thing, then this is Sokurov's film "Days of the Eclipse". The non-professional actor I spoke about is Ananishnov. In the film, he was made blond to emphasize that he is Russian. Guided by the "subtle instinct of an artist", Sokurov showed that the USSR was on the verge of collapse, it, in fact, no longer exists, and showed why this is so. The film was broadcast on central television. For those who were able to understand the allegory, the impression was terrible. It's one thing - your own vague feelings, another - when the official authority says to you "Yes, it is so! Give up hope, coming out!"
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 1 May 2021 19: 33
    +3
    excellent interstate relations, were broken under his papa, in December 1877.
    Thank you, Valery!
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 1 May 2021 16: 09
    0
    "breeches and worn out countries", probably boots?
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 1 May 2021 16: 33
    0
    Valery, "in spite of blood, hostile to Germany", you have forgotten that there is a social environment. so-called: "Mowgli effect" He was human by birth, but he was raised by a wolf family. By the way, the cases that the child was raised by animals are known to science, once I read that the wolves raised the girls, "Mowgli".
    Why not assume that the social environment where Alexander grew up was anti-German?
    1. Senior seaman
      Senior seaman 3 May 2021 11: 36
      +1
      Quote: Astra wild2
      Why not assume that the social environment where Alexander grew up was anti-German?

      Why would you? Quite pro-German ... just in 1871, a united and strong German Empire appeared on the site of a scattered conglomerate of German principalities, kingdoms and other electors. And political interests have changed dramatically.
  • bandabas
    bandabas 1 May 2021 11: 49
    +4
    The article is not bad. But the same English relatives could easily take the whole Romanov family after the October Revolution. They didn't do it. Homo homini lupus est. And it was not casual.
    1. igor67
      igor67 1 May 2021 20: 06
      +4
      cousins ​​Nikolay 2 and Georg5
      Quote: bandabas
      The article is not bad. But the same English relatives could easily take the whole Romanov family after the October Revolution. They didn't do it. Homo homini lupus est. And it was not casual.
      1. bandabas
        bandabas 1 May 2021 23: 20
        +1
        What I'm talking about. They didn't need it. We just passed it.
  • vladcub
    vladcub 1 May 2021 12: 34
    +7
    Namesake, happy holiday.
    About the slap in the face. There is a double-edged sword: 1) to avenge humiliation and all that.
    2)) unrest began in Ingushetia, and here the question arises: what is more necessary to continue the war or stop the unrest?
    He himself said that Alexander 3: "felt when to break with force, and when to step aside." So it's not a fact that Alexander III decided that it was necessary: ​​"to fight to the bitter end"
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 May 2021 15: 26
      +5
      Quote: vladcub
      He himself said that Alexander 3: "felt when to break with force, and when to step aside." So it's not a fact that Alexander III decided that it was necessary: ​​"to fight to the bitter end"


      Hello, Vlad! Alexander I made peace with Napoleon three times, but then he finished him off anyway.
      Alexander III, perhaps because of an even greater fraction of German blood, was much more stubborn than his predecessor.
      So the monologue about the "king of Kamchadals" could play with different colors. On the other hand, I think you too, I am sure that Alexander would not have brought the country to the handle and revolution. At the very least, he could not have been involved in the concession section of Korea. He put on the interests of his relatives "from the big bell tower", and did not tolerate resentment for the state.
  • ecolog
    ecolog 1 May 2021 14: 09
    +13
    What are these prerequisites? He covered the main problems of the country under the rug. A good decent man - perhaps. A great ruler who understands what and how to do with the country and has the will to conduct them and select the cadres who are able to embody this - alas, no. Daddy tried to carry out reforms. One step forward, two steps back, but I tried - daddy was killed. Conclusion - to hell with reforms, only reaction. Moreover, Niki foisted on the "best" reactionary educator - Pobedonostsev. That is, the inheritance left to his son is not the best.
    Nicky only followed in the wake of his father's policy - no reforms.
    In the Russian-Japanese, at best, I would not get involved. It was already a new type of war, when logistics and railway throughput decide. And there were problems with that. All the same, the theater of operations for Russia was at the devil's horns, and at the Japanese behind the fence.
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 1 May 2021 19: 38
      +2
      Swept the main problems of the country under the rug
      Exactly! I froze the situation "until better times."
  • Looking for
    Looking for 1 May 2021 15: 41
    +1
    what is this "sore spot" of "many !!!" members of the forum ???????
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 May 2021 15: 54
      +5
      Quote: Seeker
      what is this "sore spot" of "many !!!" members of the forum ???????

      To awaken dashingly the antagonism of "communists" and "monarchists", were you born immortal? Good luck then!!!
      1. depressant
        depressant 1 May 2021 18: 09
        +7
        Hello Konstantin! Hello colleagues!)))
        The article is long, you can see a lot in it. It’s like two parts. The first briefly tells how Nicholas II brought Russia to the revolution, the techniques used for this are given. In particular,
        The bulk of the funds received from the export of grain, metal, timber and other goods remained in foreign banks and was spent on maintaining a high (European) standard of living for aristocrats, capitalists, financiers and stock market speculators.

        So, I can congratulate everyone: exactly the same permissive law is currently being hastily adopted by the State Duma, or has already been adopted. Exporters' proceeds will now remain entirely abroad, and it will be impossible to collect tax from it to the state treasury. Export duties only. So everything will go for export, including any agricultural products that used to reach stores, but now will go for export. In parentheses, I note that a similar "export" last year was already organized by the Stavropol Territory. We are looking forward to the fall shortage of sugar and sunflower oil, or fabulous prices for these products, as well as, possibly, cards. The public is worried about this, but the information that has always reached that public after the fact makes its excitement legally punishable. Therefore, it will worry and calm down. The government and some unnamed people exactly reproduce the policy of the last Russian tsar, which became clear a couple of years ago. I wonder what the purpose is?
        And all the other indicators of the destructive internal policy of Tsar Nicholas, given as a percentage, we have already discussed on the forums to other articles, all this is familiar to me, everything is shown by the respected Author correctly.
        I'm going to read the article further, about Kshessinskaya, who has set her teeth on edge, and Alix's quirks)))
        1. Korsar4
          Korsar4 2 May 2021 11: 57
          +2
          As for the export of round timber and even sawn timber, a ban is now being proposed.

          This is a blow to the timber industry. By itself, processing within the country will not be created. And we will easily lose the markets.

          About cards in the fall - is this a serious forecast?
          1. depressant
            depressant 2 May 2021 13: 22
            +1
            The government is racking its brains over this. Considered as an option. If producers steal the bulk of their products abroad, and the wild rise in the price of leftovers causes widespread discontent, then yes. Nobody is going to impose protective duties on export.
  • Senior seaman
    Senior seaman 3 May 2021 11: 31
    +1
    Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
    who is the best of the emperors of the Russian Empire - I will answer Alexander III.

    The taste and color of the felt-tip pen are different, but as for me to my father, or rather to the frames he placed, Nikolai owes the failure of the first half of his reign. Judge for yourself, "Khodynka", as the respected author quite rightly remarked, is in many respects "merit" of Sergey Alexandrovich's VK. And who put this figure at the head of the second capital of the Empire?
    The negative influence on the affairs of the fleet of General-Admiral Alexei Alexandrovich VK has long been a proverb. And who put him in charge of the naval department?
    And finally, it is difficult to overestimate the damage done to our army by the Minister of War Vannovsky.

    There were, of course, positive moments, a long peace, the development of industry, the Russian-French alliance (I just value it very highly) and some others, but here's the overall result, I'm afraid not in favor of the Peacemaker.
  • Antidote
    Antidote 1 May 2021 06: 48
    +9
    The spiral of history can be traced
    1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
      Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 May 2021 15: 51
      +1
      Quote: Antidote
      The spiral of history can be traced

      Perhaps not even a spiral, but a curve. Catherine the Great is a reformer and revolutionary at heart! Paul is a traditionalist. Alexander is a supporter of the constitution, Nikolai is a conservative, Alexander II is a liberator, Alexander III is a retrograde, well, Nicholas II is breaking this system. Essentially neither fish nor meat.
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 1 May 2021 19: 41
        +2
        Sine wave.
        1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
          Kote Pan Kokhanka 1 May 2021 20: 16
          +3
          Quote: 3x3zsave
          Sine wave.

          Anton agree!
          1. Richard
            Richard 1 May 2021 20: 49
            +7
            Here is an interesting photo
            Queen Victoria and her kin. Coburg, April 1894. Next to the queen sits her daughter Vicki with her granddaughter Feo. Charlotte, Feo's mother, stands to the right of the center, third to the right of her uncle the Prince of Wales (he is in a white jacket). To the left of Queen Victoria is her grandson Kaiser Wilhelm II, directly behind them is Tsarevich Nikolai Alexandrovich and his bride, nee Alice of Hesse-Darmstadt
            1. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 1 May 2021 21: 26
              +2
              And then, from around the corner, Kaliayev comes out! wassat
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 1 May 2021 07: 14
    +18
    as if about today.
    The bulk of the funds received from the export of grain, metal, timber and other goods remained in foreign banks and was spent on maintaining a high (European) standard of living for aristocrats, capitalists, financiers and stock market speculators.
    1. Richard
      Richard 1 May 2021 20: 55
      +5
      One more thing
      In the uniform of the Life Guard of Her Majesty's Ulan Regiment. From November 14, 1894 to March 4, 1917, Alexandra Feodorovna was the chief of the regiment
  • north 2
    north 2 1 May 2021 07: 37
    +2
    I had to hear from the lips of my respected historian Professor Pyzhikov, the Kingdom of Heaven to him, that when Yusupov reported to Maria Fedorovna that Rasputin had been killed, Maria Fedorovna, the mother of Nicholas II, said that it would be better for her ..., referring to Alexandra Fedorovna, the wife of Nicholas II ..
    1. Hantengri
      Hantengri 1 May 2021 10: 19
      +5
      Pyzhikov, there was also a storyteller.
    2. vladcub
      vladcub 1 May 2021 13: 38
      +6
      "she said that it would be better for her" although I do not have a high opinion of Pyzhykov, but here you can believe: Maria Feodorovna had the same sympathy for her daughter-in-law as a dog had for a stick.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 1 May 2021 07: 39
    +5
    Yesterday is like today
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 1 May 2021 08: 17
    +9
    Good story. Thank you. Sometimes, setting out historical facts, the author gives a lot of himself. Here it is not. But nevertheless, yesterday I came across a venerable historian who said, "Few people know about 1812. Few people know how Russian intelligence cleverly lured French troops into the depths of Russia ..". What an astute intelligence we had !!! She already foresaw both Borodino and the surrender of Moscow and the victory of Russia. True, the losses will be among the personnel and the civilian population, it’s a trifle. Such a "historian" fantasizes for himself, and even makes a fool of others. Thanks again to the author.
    1. Astra wild2
      Astra wild2 1 May 2021 16: 02
      +1
      "there was shrewd intelligence" - this is still a trifle, but in: "April 1812" the men knew that Napoleon would be in Moscow it would be cooler
  • knn54
    knn54 1 May 2021 08: 40
    +5
    The author is a plus. I would like to add that for the good of the country, the Emperor must, alas, marry not for love, but for a WEIGHTED calculation.
    The U-turn from Germany to the Anglo-French coalition was a STRATEGIC mistake of the emperor.
    The murder of Ivan the Terrible, Peter III, Paul is on the account of the British.
    During the Crimean War, Germany did not support the coalition.
    In the 19th century, someone from the British said that for the UK the last day would be the union of Germany, Russia and Japan.
    It remained to "play off" Japan and RI ...
    1. depressant
      depressant 2 May 2021 07: 55
      +3
      I would like to add that for the good of the country, the Emperor must, alas, marry not for love, but according to a WEIGHTED calculation.


      Colleague, you have submitted such an idea! ))))
      Putin is divorced, Queen Elizabeth is a widow. All international problems were solved instantly! Maybe Putin really should get married to Elizabeth? wassat
      1. Korsar4
        Korsar4 2 May 2021 15: 48
        +2
        Presented a marriage contract.
        And the carve-up of jointly acquired property.

        It's good if Scotland is for us.
        And if the Kemsky volost - to them?

        I am afraid of lawyers.
        1. depressant
          depressant 2 May 2021 16: 43
          +1
          So you are not taking up the organization of matchmaking?
          1. Korsar4
            Korsar4 2 May 2021 17: 03
            +1
            Not. No experience, no international certification.
            I only watched The Marriage of Balzaminov.
            1. depressant
              depressant 2 May 2021 18: 07
              +3
              "The Marriage of Balzaminov" - a textbook. The method of enclosing a reluctant groom into the marriage stall is a classic of the genre.
              1. Korsar4
                Korsar4 2 May 2021 18: 48
                +2
                Ostrovsky is generally a textbook. Often impartial.
                1. depressant
                  depressant 2 May 2021 19: 06
                  +1
                  Impartial ... But they looked and are watching. This is how it is adjiku. But they ate and eat.
                  1. Korsar4
                    Korsar4 2 May 2021 19: 15
                    +1
                    And adjika, and mustard, and horseradish - nowhere without them.
      2. Offliner
        Offliner 5 May 2021 03: 56
        +2
        Yes Yes. Ivan the Terrible did not grow together with Elizabeth, let's see, let's look at, well, you get the idea.
        1. depressant
          depressant 5 May 2021 10: 02
          +1
          Understood. The groom is experienced, fills his own worth. England - for a dowry, and the Kemsky volost - no, no! ))))
  • Operator
    Operator 1 May 2021 09: 26
    +9
    The problem was not in the hysterical-depressive character of Alisa Gessenskaya, but in the dementia (oligophrenia) of Nikolai Romanov.

    PS There is an audio recording of the voice of Alexander III on a gramophone record on the Internet - he spoke Russian with a "Guards" (German-French) accent and constructed phrases incorrectly (like a foreigner).
    His sons and daughters spoke with enthusiasm about their Danish grandfather and grandmother, they visited them every summer, where they closely contacted cousins ​​and second cousins ​​from the royal houses of Germany, Britain, etc.
    These cousins ​​will enthusiastically throw alien peoples into the PMA meat grinder, and will also refuse to save the family of one of their own after the overthrow of Nikolai Romanov from the throne of the Russian Empire.
    1. Olddetractor
      Olddetractor 1 May 2021 11: 34
      0
      The problem was not in the hysterical-depressive nature of Alisa Gessenskaya, but in the dementia (oligophrenia) of Nikolai Romanov

      And also in the fact that Dagmar did not fulfill her vow to her husband.
    2. ecolog
      ecolog 1 May 2021 14: 19
      +3
      Pure pragmatism. It was important for the British to keep Russia in the war and they did not want to anger the Provisional Government by accepting the Romanovs. Britain was also worn out by the war and did not want to take responsibility. Moreover, the king decided little there, after all, the monarchy is constitutional.
      The same Kaiser quietly moved to the Netherlands and no one hovered.
  • Force multiplier
    Force multiplier 1 May 2021 10: 38
    .
    Alexander III, involved in the murder of his father, entered into an alliance with the enemies of Russia for personal gain (power), and put RI on the rails leading to the abyss. The rest is already a consequence, Nicholas could not prevent the fall of the empire, even if he was three times brilliant
    1. Hantengri
      Hantengri 1 May 2021 12: 52
      +11
      Quote: Force Multiplier

      Alexander III, involved in the murder of his father, having entered into an alliance with the enemies of Russia for personal gain (power),

      Oh how! It turns out that Alexander III ordered his papa to the People's Will ... lol They themselves did not want to, they said: "How is it possible, the Sovereign of our Emperor, to overpower for anything! It's a sin!" , and he to them: "Bring down, guys, otherwise the end is me. I, after all, sold out to the enemies of Russia and if daddy does not finish, they will not forgive me for this. And on the throne to sit on the throne is passion like a hunt! So, do not hesitate, I will slobber immeasurably, just soak the goat! " wassat
      1. 3x3zsave
        3x3zsave 1 May 2021 19: 46
        +2
        Bravo, Igor! good
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 1 May 2021 10: 40
    -9
    Surprisingly WRONG one-sided propaganda article:
    gurko: 40% of pre-revolutionary Russian conscripts tried meat, butter and gakhar for the first time in their lives, only when they got into the army.

    no one can cite the source of this nonsense.

    And who could eat what when, it can be seen even by the deceitful statistics:


    In 1916. in Tomsk province only 9,2% of households were without cows and horses. 59,7% of farms had 3 or more horses; 43,1% of farms had 3 or more cows. Altai: horseless farms 6,5%, cowless 6,8%; on the other hand, 34,1% of farms had 4 or more horses; 33,4% had 3 or more cows.

    Blessed 1913 consumption of meat and other food, clothing, housing in cities, the next regime was able to (after the "heroic" "battles" for bread and garlic) catch up only after 40 (forty) years - see Report of the Central Statistical Administration of the USSR in 1955, and in the "blessed" year of built socialism 1937 people ate and starved to death-see Istmat, which has not been in Russia for a long time since the 19th century
    Russia not only did not catch up with the industrialized countries at that time, but, on the contrary, lagged behind them more and more.
    On the eve of the revolution, the country's national income amounted to 16,4 billion rubles (7,4% of the global total). According to this indicator, the Russian Empire ranked fourth after the United States, Germany and the British Empire. In terms of the growth rate of national income, the Russian Empire was ahead of Germany, France, England - see. Brasol and Gregory.

    The share of Russia in world industry in 1913, according to various estimates, from 5,3% (fifth in the world)-cm. RAS up to 12,73% (third place in the world) see Bolotin-i this share ROSLA and caught up with Europe, and France and England fell.

    As for the collected dirty gossip about the Empress, they characterize their collectors more than Alexandra Feodorovna, an exemplary mother, loving wife, heroic surgical nurse of WWI, and a martyr.

    Nikolai and Alexandra loved each other, sincerely and tenderly (their correspondence is a whole long-term romance of lovers) all their lives, in marriage they gave birth to beautiful children and comprehended such happiness in family life, which is not given to everyone:


    Beauty and harmony.
    1. Operator
      Operator 1 May 2021 11: 39
      +9
      A psychopath and an oligophrenic - that's more correct.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 1 May 2021 13: 23
        -4
        Quote: Operator
        A psychopath and an oligophrenic - that's more correct.

        psychopaths and oligophrenics all the time "find" among normal people, "theirs".
      2. kyznets
        kyznets 3 May 2021 06: 27
        -1
        It is surprising that these inscriptions on the fence get so many advantages. Aren't you disgusted with putting pluses for empty and deceitful insults?
        1. Operator
          Operator 3 May 2021 10: 48
          0
          Have you read the article or "have not read, but I condemn"?
          1. kyznets
            kyznets 3 May 2021 13: 18
            0
            Exactly, that I carefully read the "article", as you called IT. Demagoguery, lies and manipulation of numbers, which, moreover, have not been confirmed by anything. In addition to this article, I read a lot on this topic. And even among the openly hostile read on this topic, this article sucks - a list of very old and deceitful cliches. Fu Fu Fu! Intake creativity. Please read the primary sources - documents, memoirs of ALL (if possible) participants and witnesses. You will learn a lot of new things for yourself and about the past and the present. Do you succeed? "I read it on the Internet and I condemn it"! And there is a huge amount of information on this topic. Including charges dropped and not confirmed by investigators of the interim government against the royal family and their relatives and friends. In the army they told us - teach materiel. At the institute they told us - read the primary sources.
          2. kyznets
            kyznets 3 May 2021 13: 32
            -1
            I read THIS very carefully. I've read enough on this topic to say that this article sucks and sucks creativity, compared to what the opponents of the royal family wrote on this topic. Read primary sources, both statistical and evidence. Honor the witnesses not only of those who killed and slandered, but also those who tried to defend the honor and truth of the imperial family. You get it "I read it on the Internet and I condemn it"! Well, do not eat what they throw at your feet. Choose the food yourself, judge it yourself. Understand the issue, and then judge. Well, this article is not a "decent product", not even a surrogate. So, slop.
          3. kyznets
            kyznets 3 May 2021 13: 37
            -2
            I read THIS very carefully. I've read enough on this topic to say that this article sucks and sucks creativity, compared to what the opponents of the royal family wrote on this topic. Read primary sources, both statistical and evidence. Honor the witnesses not only of those who killed and slandered, but also those who tried to defend the honor and truth of the imperial family. You get it "I read it on the Internet and I condemn it"! Well, do not eat what they throw at your feet. Choose the food yourself, judge it yourself. Understand the issue, and then judge. Well, this article is not a "decent product", not even a surrogate. So, slop.
          4. kyznets
            kyznets 3 May 2021 14: 07
            -2
            I read THIS very carefully. I've read enough on this topic to say that this article sucks and sucks creativity, compared to what the opponents of the royal family wrote on this topic. Read primary sources, both statistical and evidence. Honor the witnesses not only of those who killed and slandered, but also those who tried to defend the honor and truth of the imperial family. You get it "I read it on the Internet and I condemn it"! Well, do not eat what they throw at your feet. Choose the food yourself, judge it yourself. Understand the issue, and then judge. Well, this article is not a "decent product", not even a surrogate. So, slop.
    2. Zug
      Zug 1 May 2021 14: 47
      +10
      Well, yes, well, yes, the "Whipped Generation" ate bread and milk from the belly, and seized lard. What kind of "hungry years" with wild mortality in the late 19th century and early 20th century were there. They washed their faces with milk and rubbed their faces with butter. to do, to earn extra money, it can be seen for hours from Pavel Bure.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 2 May 2021 07: 39
        -3
        Quote: Zug
        Well, yes, well, yes, the "Whipped Generation" ate bread and milk from the belly, and seized lard. What kind of "hungry years" with wild mortality in the late 19th century and early 20th century were there. They washed their faces with milk and rubbed their faces with butter. to do, to earn extra money, it can be seen for hours from Pavel Bure.

        nudge louder, and at the same time teach the NUMBERS of the Soviet (those deliberately false) statisticians who still had to admit that they ate and dressed in Russia better and to eat, as in 1913, the Russian people could again only after many decades.

        The wild starvation mortality in our country in the middle of the 20th century in the center of Europe in peacetime is generally unattainable by anyone and never in the history of the world at that time-hack this FACT on your forehead.
        and in Russia this has never happened in modern times.:

        special information from the secret-political department of the OGPU
        TSA FSB of the Russian Federation. F. 2. Op. 11. D. 42. L. 74, 75, 76, 77, 78. The original.

        VOLODAR DISTRICT. In the village of Rudoye, having left 3 young children at home, I **** left the village. Having absolutely no food, by agreement with the elder sister, a 9-year-old boy killed a 3-year-old girl (sister), after which they cut off her head and eat corpse meat raw.
        CHERNYAKHOVSKY DISTRICT. In the village of Andreev, poor Zh *** died due to malnutrition. 11-year-old boy - with a knife he opened the belly of the deceased father, took out the insides and prepared them to cook.
        VINNYTSIA REGION ...

        In the village of Pinkovka, poor collective farmer K ***, 50 years old, killed his two daughters, 7 and 9 years old, whose meat he ate for food
        etc..


        thousands of such documents
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich 2 May 2021 07: 43
          -2
          All Orthodox, happy Easter:

          Christ is Risen!.

          And the Russian Empress Alexandra Feodorovna with her children addresses the Orthodox with Easter greetings

          :
        2. Zug
          Zug 2 May 2021 07: 54
          +3
          You list the "Holodomors" (the word is some kind of Solzhenichensky) in Russia, say from the 19th century, and who ate whom from time to time? Or count the number of riots and uprisings in the villages? Maybe under tsarism they took a step towards improving agrarian activity? There was famine in the USSR, but at that time it had a finite. Under tsarism there was no end. Maybe the tsar made a strategic supply of bread? You read the diary of the king's brother's wife when she first came to a country mansion on vacation and saw the life of the peasants, her impressions of this. It's a revelation; everyone is wearing horses, pigs, greasy faces; men have beards in milk and vodka at the same time; kids eat blanch around the clock ... winked
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 2 May 2021 08: 06
            -3
            Quote: Zug
            You list the "Holodomors" (the word is some kind of Solzhenichensky) in Russia, say from the 19th century, and who ate whom from time to time?

            well list come on, dear, and do not forget, yes, that the 19th century is NOT the 20th!

            And about the cannibalism of the 19th century - facts on the table, lover of lies!
            Quote: Zug
            Maybe under tsarism they took a step towards improving agrarian activity? There was famine in the USSR, but at that time it had a finite. Under tsarism there was no end. Maybe the tsar made a strategic supply of bread?

            Yes, you are simply illiterate: Russia had a system of fighting hunger in the form of imperial food capital, jobs, community and charity.

            That is why there were no starvation deaths after 1892.

            In the ussr in the twentieth century hunger = CONSTANT 20s, 30,40s. The years of Soviet starvation mortality in PEACE: 1921,22,23,24,25,26,30,32,33,36,37,46,47.

            Hack those years on your forehead.
            1. Zug
              Zug 2 May 2021 10: 30
              +1
              I will not list here to you, a descendant of lovers of French buns, dispossessed and exiled all the "delights" of tsarism and life under this system. I will ask you, the storyteller, one question. How, having 85 percent of the population of the peasantry under the tsar, these same masses were able to strangle the lovers buns and their henchmen, whites, fourteen invading countries, having planted all of them on leather lances. Having what you describe there, they rose as one wiping greasy, contented faces, went well fed, fattened against their beloved benefactors and managed to clean them all? Fourteen countries were walking around Russia, white armies, they washed and buried everyone? Probably because they were tired of bending humps for 14 hours in factories and in the field without leaving sheaves of children to give birth. revolution, no wars. Especially hunger. By the way, the tsar introduced the provisional reconnaissance)))
              1. Olgovich
                Olgovich 2 May 2021 12: 45
                -4
                Quote: Zug
                I will not list here for you, a descendant of lovers of French buns, dispossessed and exiled all the "charms" of tsarism and life under this system.

                Why have you been silent for so long? Did he pick out, pick out the "facts" of cannibalism, but didn't he? lol
                You are not the first, NOBODY could find in the history of Russia in the 19-20 centuries the nightmare of the sample 1921,22,32,33,46,47 is all purely yours.

                You're just embarrassed.
                .
                Quote: Zug
                these same masses were able to strangle

                hack on the forehead: 5% of the population took part in the GW, 95% escaped at home.

                And if you apply the methods of the Bolsheviks (hostages of family members, circular responsibility, blackmail by hunger, your power all food was taken over and p), then you would "God Save the Tsar" sang with inspiration day and night.

                List, yes, "battles", "fronts" with the Americans, the Franks, yeah.

                and hack to the forehead: it was ANTANTA who defeated the German invaders and destroyed YOUR treacherous Brest-Litovsk peace and liberated Russia from them, she also ordered the Japanese to leave the Far East and left herself.
                Quote: Zug
                14 hours at the factories and in the field without leaving the sheaves of children to give birth

                you read the DOCUMENTS of the Istmath, how the CHILDREN of the peasants worked day and night on collective farms and were crippled in adult work.

                By the way, these children were enrolled in the collective farm automatically, without consent, as the children of serfs became serfs. And they had corvee and rent and taxes, many times more than the king's
                1. Zug
                  Zug 2 May 2021 13: 27
                  +2
                  The Red Army, under the leadership of smart, talented leaders, defeated the intervention, hunger, concluded the Brest and Tart Treaty, which saved Russia from complete occupation, then returning everything that had to be given through the fault of the tsar who got involved in WWI (this is a consequence of Brest) I thought that he was the result of the Dardanelles and the Bosphorus will give? Hard labor, torture, the death penalty, abolished by the Bolsheviks, are about the achievements of the New System. Yes, I agree. The children did not have rest homes, sanatoriums and children's gardens like a tsar. There was hunger, but I don’t hear from you that he was the results of the tsarist surplus appropriation system, WWI, civil war unleashed by the whites, drought. Terror, which was also declared by whites in the occupied territories in the spring of 18 of the year and by the Czech White Corps. 50 thousand walked, cut, killed the Russian population (well, you really have left. I didn’t fight with them). Cross yourself ... I don’t know where. You don’t have a head. Born again, nothing will help you. The Soviets liquidated, not immediately, illiteracy, introduced a number of laws that under tsarism did not even dream of. You just have when they took away what was acquired on the humps and bones of the peasants, who bent humps on you for centuries. But not all of you to ride on their humps, it's time to ride on yours, and ride, I think to glory. Who in Paris then don't have their holes sold the worms went to feed
      2. Offliner
        Offliner 5 May 2021 04: 07
        +1
        Yes, what is there. Any peasant son carried Faberge eggs. With the mark of the master, kanesh.
    3. Zug
      Zug 1 May 2021 14: 59
      +10
      The peasants would have lived as you rub in here: no one would have taken up a rifle - In mass quantities. Everyone would have lived happily, like a tsarist chita, they would have eaten white bread, fed pigs with black bread, and stored gingerbread by the cheeks. in 25 years humps would not bend, why? Bread will be born on its own, no one takes it away, no one pushes it over the hill. But for some reason it is inconsistent. Europe robbed the colonies and lived well. Russia had no colonies, therefore the tsar robbed the peasants.
      1. Mother Theresa
        Mother Theresa 1 May 2021 22: 41
        -2
        Some for the rifle, and some for the bleed. And others in the 90s just sat at the TVs when the USSR was falling apart. So think about the reasons for the people's anger or apathy.
        1. Zug
          Zug 2 May 2021 07: 21
          +2
          You do not compare white with black. 90 and 1917. Those who were comfortable using the cutoffs grabbed onto it, and in the 20s and 30s the replacement for the landowners grew. Fists with podkulachniki.
          1. Mother Theresa
            Mother Theresa 2 May 2021 17: 12
            -1
            Yes, yes, I've already heard “You don’t understand, this is different!”.
          2. Offliner
            Offliner 5 May 2021 04: 15
            +1
            Did the communists come up with the term "kulak"? And I thought that Dostoevsky used in "Brothers ..." in the most negative sense as an established term.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 1 May 2021 11: 18
    -9
    On contemporary By standards, this woman can hardly be called a beauty. A pretty, but unremarkable and expressionless face, short legs. Currently, the optimal height for a ballerina is 170 cm, and the optimal weight is determined by the formula: height minus 122. That is, with an ideal height of 170 cm, a modern ballerina should weigh 48 kg. Kshesinskaya, with a height of 153 cm, never weighed less than 50 kg.

    even today the growth of most ballerinas is 160 cm, weight is no more than 50 kg.

    And the SRT years ago, the growth of people was less than today, although today's Ekaterina Maksimova is only 4 cm higher than Kshesinskaya.

    You can look at the photographs of the performances of Kshesinskaya and the troupe of the Mariinsky Theater - and who is there higher than her?

    And she was, the PRIMA of the Mariinsky Theater and the Russian ballet (the first Russian ballerina with 32 fouettés in a row!), Such a beauty, a clever woman and a mistress (see her mansion):

    1. Hantengri
      Hantengri 1 May 2021 13: 25
      +16
      Quote: Olgovich
      And there was she, the PRIMA of the Mariinsky Theater and the Russian ballet (the first Russian ballerina with 32 fouettés in a row!)

      Judging by how the members of the royal family "stuck" on her, she succeeded in "fouette" not only on stage ... lol
      Quote: Olgovich
      clever and mistress (see her mansion):

      Such a modest little house ...

      I wonder how much it cost Mothe, if you count in the "fouette"? laughing
      1. Offliner
        Offliner 5 May 2021 04: 22
        +2
        Admiral Krylov (well, Kapitsa's grandfather) answered with the lips of a cabman in his memoirs. True, obscene.
    2. Astra wild2
      Astra wild2 1 May 2021 15: 48
      +4
      "she was the PRIMA of the Mariinsky and Russian ballet" Olgovich, I know that Matilda Kshisinskaya was a wonderful ballerina, but in fairness
      How do you think: the directorate of the Mariinsky Theater did not know that she was the favorite of the emperor and in k, but if she knew what she would do? I doubt that anyone would dare not to give her the main party. They would have been lucidly explained that Kshisinskaya is dearer to the sovereign than dignified idlers and guess at once their reaction
      1. VLR
        1 May 2021 16: 03
        +9
        Quite right. Kshesinskaya, as a ballerina, was not loved by the great Marius Petipa himself, but he was forced to personally stage dances for her. Matilda, by the way, became complex because of her short legs, and began to arbitrarily shorten the pack to open them. The director of the imperial theaters, Volkonsky, fined her and fired. After that, no one dared to criticize Matilda. And to deny her something - too. She wanted, for example, to dance in Drigo's ballet "Pearl" - she had to write a separate part for her.
  • Trilobite Master
    Trilobite Master 1 May 2021 12: 33
    +14
    In general, I agree with the author's assessment of the personalities of Alexander III, Nicholas II and Alexandra.
    They are very short-sighted, prone to retrograde, and Nikolai is still weak to the point of foolishness.
    The "economic" part of the article also does not arouse much criticism. Everything was really very deplorable. You can choose any numbers - "specialists" who provide certain data, often mutually exclusive, complete - choose whom to believe. I personally don’t believe anyone, but I’m convinced that if everything were fine, the revolution would not end. And once it was over, then it was not good.
    Article plus, thanks to the author.
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 1 May 2021 13: 52
      -5
      Quote: Trilobite Master
      I personally don’t believe anyone, but I’m convinced that if everything were fine, the revolution would not end. And once it was over, then it was not good.

      everything was so terrible that the level of consumption of food, clothing, gorzhitsa, grain yield 1913 years, the revolutionaries reached only 40 years later, through incredible sacrifices, fierce battles for bread and battles for the udder (report of the Central Statistical Administration of the USSR 1955).

      but, in the end, they still lost all these battles: the regime with the world's largest arable land, I had to buy abroad ... grain, meat, oil, etc., but they left a THIRD of their harvest ... under the snow and losses
      1. Trilobite Master
        Trilobite Master 1 May 2021 15: 35
        +16
        I have already expressed my attitude towards numbers. I have seen different, giving diametrically opposite results. It takes time and desire to figure out which of them are closer to the truth. I have neither one nor the other for this. By the way, I don’t see your desire either. You BELIEVE only those numbers that fit into your picture of the world.
        If everything had been so good in 1913, the Bolsheviks would hardly have come to power in 1917. And if everything was so bad under the Bolsheviks, why did it not end with a new revolution?
        In fact, there is only one answer - the people lived better under the Bolsheviks than under the tsar. The people were happier. Maybe they ate less, I don't know, but the people were happier and satisfied with their leadership, they loved and proud of their country. In 1941-45. the people fought for their country - the Soviet country, the USSR, just as they did not think to fight in 1914-18. for the Russian Empire, and 1944-45. no one ran from the front like in 1917-18.
        And the numbers ... the numbers are crafty. I don’t know where you get them from and it’s not even interesting to me. I just clearly see that they either lie directly or do not reflect reality, because history, historical events such as the wars lost by the Russian Empire, a series of revolutions and a civil war could not have happened in a prosperous state.
        Therefore, the last Romanovs, who led the country to such a terrible period in its history, plunging it into many years of turmoil, are disgusting and disgusting characters for me, and the Bolsheviks who brought it out of this period are worthy of respect and good memory. And I don't care how much my grandparents ate compared to my great-grandmothers and great-grandfathers. I know from their words that at that time they were happy and proud of their country, their people and their government, that they worked, and whether their parents were proud - I doubt.
        So come to terms with the inevitable and finally understand that the people recognized the power of the Bolsheviks as the party that most fully represented their interests, that under the rule of the latter, the country achieved progress unprecedented for tsarist Russia, always lagging behind everyone in everything except luxury nobles and the wealth of the church.
        1. Mike_E
          Mike_E 1 May 2021 20: 52
          -3
          As you read the Heart of a Dog, you burn with fiery love for these beautiful Shvonders, who raised the country to unimaginable heights ...
          As you look at the polls or Rosstat data, you will be imbued with love for Yasnoye.
          In this beautiful country of victorious Bolsheviks, you look at happy citizens swimming to the last steamers from Sevastopol ...
          1. Sugar Honeyovich
            Sugar Honeyovich 2 May 2021 06: 17
            +4
            The main idea of ​​"Heart of a Dog": The Preobrazhenskys created the Sharikovs with the assistance of the Bormentals. The role of the Shvonders is secondary. yes
          2. Trilobite Master
            Trilobite Master 2 May 2021 11: 38
            +7
            Have you read Bulgakov? Ay, well done!
            I believe that now you need to read Zoshchenko and a complete and objective understanding of Soviet reality is guaranteed to you. Good luck.
            1. Mike_E
              Mike_E 4 May 2021 15: 43
              -1
              Nuuu, I thought that such an educated person would be able to offer a more interesting alternative.
              In general, I was very much surprised by VO from the point of view of a fairly large number of smart and educated people who experience phantom pains as a parody of the socialist state, which was the USSR in its entire short history.
              And the number of Stalinists was horrifying ...
              1. Trilobite Master
                Trilobite Master 4 May 2021 16: 50
                +1
                Quote: Mike_E
                a more interesting alternative.

                I’m even at a loss what other fiction could I advise you to study history ... I’m afraid there’s nothing to interrupt the images of Sharikov and Shvonder.
                As for phantom pains, I personally do not experience them and I can’t count myself as a Stalinist. It's just that Soviet times and Stalin are part of our history, as integral as any other. It will not be possible to return and repeat it, and it is not necessary, it is not even worth trying. But remember - it's worth it, because we had a lot of achievements during this period, moreover, in all branches of human activity - from sports to science and culture.
                In some way they lagged behind the rest of the world, in some way they were ahead. And Shvonders and Sharikovs were everywhere at all times.
                1. Mike_E
                  Mike_E 4 May 2021 23: 46
                  -1
                  Perfect as always (first part of answer). I love your sarcasm. As for achievements, yes, in all areas from murder (here, however, Mr. Hess, still took the palm) to space flight. Great and Terrible. And this is almost always the case. What Great (Shpakovsky my sincere respect for interesting cycles) you will not take, so he cuts windows up to his head in blood. Shvonderov (Sharikov, due to genetics, could not stop chasing cats) in certain periods of history, nevertheless, is much more.
                  1. Trilobite Master
                    Trilobite Master 5 May 2021 10: 09
                    0
                    Here the question runs into an eternal dilemma: what is better for a person - to build a cosmodrome in the open icy steppe with a bare bottom and a hungry belly, or to eat hearty, drink hard and sleep sweetly at home behind an oak door with three bolts.
                    And this observation of yours regarding the "bloodiness" of all the great is explained simply - great things can be done only by a large number of people. To do this, they need to be organized, united and directed. And those who interfere (remember the proverbs about the black sheep and the fly in the ointment) must either be isolated or destroyed, otherwise it will simply not work to move the masses in the right direction.
                    As for sarcasm, I'm not the first. Back in the XNUMXth century. Some clever guy who cites examples from Dostoevsky's work in his scientific work on psychology was told that using such techniques is the same as trying to milk painted cows. Shvonders, Melekhovs, Bolkonsky, Raskolnikovs, Bazarovs, etc. - just the fruits of the invention of their authors, nothing more.
        2. Mother Theresa
          Mother Theresa 1 May 2021 22: 44
          -5
          So come to terms with the inevitable and finally understand that the people recognized the power of the democrats and United Russia, as the party that most fully represented their interests, that progress was made under the rule of the latter. Well, further in the text.
          1. Trilobite Master
            Trilobite Master 2 May 2021 11: 41
            +6
            I admitted - perhaps. So far, no one can seriously suggest anything better.
            But progress, even remotely resembling progress under Soviet rule, is more difficult with that. I don't see any progress.
            1. Mother Theresa
              Mother Theresa 4 May 2021 12: 28
              0
              As a result, the appeal to the people does not make sense. And I don't see the rest, I don't like to hang around with purely personal preferences.
        3. Olgovich
          Olgovich 2 May 2021 07: 15
          -3
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          You BELIEVE only those numbers that fit into your picture of the world.

          I BELIEVED for over 30 years false fables the previous regime, with which he fed us, without giving a single letter of alternative. It all turned out to be a heinous lie.
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          If everything had been so good in 1913, the Bolsheviks would hardly have come to power in 1917. And if everything was so bad under the Bolsheviks, why did it not end with a new revolution?

          There was the worst in the history of the WORLD WAR and the associated hardships, hardships and hardships. Stabbing in the back at such a time is impossible.

          Remember how many hundreds of thousands were shot in MIRNOE, millions were exiled and imprisoned, how many thousands of political processes over the course of tens of years, how much freedom of speech and thought people had to understand the reason for the non-revolution. IN WHICH country was it?
          In no capitalist itself, nothing like it-think, finally!

          Do not forget that the Bolsheviks never held elections - they were so afraid of the people ..
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          In fact, there is only one answer - the people lived better under the Bolsheviks than under the tsar. The people were happier. Maybe they ate less, I don't know, but the people were happier and satisfied with their leadership, they loved and proud of their country

          unfounded statement-FACTS speak of the opposite-ate less (and promised and lied that we eat more), no elections, no freedom of speech, life, parties, conscience, movement, there was NOTHING.
          A NAKED owl man came and NAKED left this life, leaving the children NOTHING. And what is happiness? Glory in ORANIA ...! and death ...! by order from above?
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          In 1941-45. the people fought for their country - the Soviet country, the USSR, just as they did not think to fight in 1914-18. for the Russian Empire, and 1944-45. no one ran from the front like in 1917-18.

          the people fought for the FATHERLAND, as in a thousand years before in hundreds of wars, when there was no smell of advice.

          In WWI, he also defended it and did not run to the Volga, but stood on the land of the invaders in Avengria in 1917.
          And find out that there were more conscientious deserters and prisoners in the Second World War than in WWI in Russia.
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          And the numbers ... the numbers are crafty. I don’t know where you get them from and it’s not even interesting to me. I just clearly see that they either lie directly or do not reflect reality, because history, historical events such as the wars lost by the Russian Empire, a series of revolutions and a civil war could not have happened in a prosperous state.

          you just believe. It's funny. ALL countries pass through the specified by you
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          Therefore, the last Romanovs, who led the country to such a terrible period in its history, plunging it into many years of turmoil, are disgusting and disgusting characters for me, and the Bolsheviks who brought it out of this period are worthy of respect and good memory.

          just FACTS, under the Romanovs, Russia became the largest country in the world with the fastest growing people, the second in the world, under the Bolsheviks, it shrank to the borders of the 17th century with a dying, old, drinking, cracked population.
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          And I don't care how much my grandparents ate compared to great-grandmothers and great-grandfathers. I know from their words that at that time they were happy and proud of their country, their people and their government, that they worked, and whether their parents were proud - I doubt.

          proud of their countrybut not by the party regime. And NOBODY stood up for him IN 1991, why, eh?
          Quote: Trilobite Master
          So come to terms with the inevitable and finally understand that the people recognized the power of the Bolsheviks as the party that most fully represented their interests, that under the rule of the latter, the country achieved progress unprecedented for tsarist Russia, always lagging behind everyone in everything except luxury nobles and the wealth of the church.

          come to terms with the reality-Bolsheviks NO, disappeared like a black shadow, a moment that flashed in the thousand-year history of Russia and hack to death on your forehead: NOBODY, NEVER, ANYWHERE did not choose them, did not entrust them ANYTHING, never recognized and the rotten disappeared by themselves with complete indifference of the people - you in incl.
          1. Trilobite Master
            Trilobite Master 2 May 2021 12: 32
            +6
            Quote: Olgovich
            There was the worst world war in history

            The worst thing was under the Bolsheviks, in the forties. And the Bolsheviks managed to withstand and win.
            As for the Romanovs, it was necessary to be able to run the country in such a way that being in the camp of the winners, to be the losers in the end.
            With regard to political processes and repressions - it was the same in the countries of "victorious democracies", only against the communists. The authorities must be able to defend themselves and the authorities were able to be Bolsheviks. At the same time, political repressions and persecutions, for example, in the Republic of Ingushetia also took place, but they were carried out in the interests of the minority - the privileged estates, while in the Soviet state they were carried out in the interests of the majority - the working population.
            Quote: Olgovich
            Do not forget that the Bolsheviks never held elections - they were so afraid of the people ..

            We weren't afraid. Elections were held at all levels of government. And the way they were carried out - so it is everywhere. Elections are generally a profanation, at all times and in all corners of the planet. And in such a huge state as ours, and in general there is nothing to talk about. In some Czech Republic or Finland, direct elections can still give positive results - there voters know their nominees personally, but not in Russia.
            Quote: Olgovich
            the people fought for the FATHERLAND, as in a thousand years before in hundreds of wars, when there was no smell of advice.

            The people fought for only the second time in their history. The first time this was in 1812. Before that, squads, regiments, armies fought, swearing allegiance to the ruler personally. And they fought for his personal interests, which did not always coincide with the interests of the people. For example, as it was in the First World War.
            And in the Second World War it was the people who fought, and not for some abstract "fatherland", but for a specific "socialist fatherland", for the Soviet government and personally for its head - for Stalin. He fought and won.
            Quote: Olgovich
            under the Bolsheviks, shrank to the borders of the 17th century

            What do you mean by this? THE USSR?
            Quote: Olgovich
            come to terms with reality - there are NO Bolsheviks,

            I do not need to put up with her, I know that very well. There is neither the USSR, nor the Russian Empire, nor the Moscow principality - this is all history. Someday the Russian Federation will also disappear, something else will appear in its place, and it will also go down in history. I do not regret the USSR either, I am not nostalgic, although I am proud, unlike you, of the Soviet past of my country, as well as of the imperial, tsarist or princely ones.
            There were setbacks in the Soviet period, but there were also tremendous successes, and it is to the Soviet period that we owe the fact that for the first time in our history we acquired the status of a superpower on a planetary scale, the words of whose leaders were listened with trepidation in all corners of the globe. Not before, not after in its history, my country has never risen to such a height to which the communists raised it.
            You want to smear this bright period of our common history with mud, defame and consign to oblivion, although why you, positioning yourself as a patriot, need it, I absolutely do not understand.
            1. Liam
              Liam 2 May 2021 12: 46
              -8
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              At the same time, political repressions and persecutions, for example, in the Republic of Ingushetia also took place, but they were carried out in the interests of the minority - the privileged estates, while in the Soviet state they were carried out in the interests of the majority - the working population.

              An interesting and informative dispute between two crystal bakers. One is an Imperets, the second is a Product of the dictatorship of the proletariat. They are worthy of each other.
              1. Trilobite Master
                Trilobite Master 2 May 2021 13: 07
                +9
                You are a strange person - you seem to like it when they send you. Well, if you like it - if you please.
                Come on ...
                1. Liam
                  Liam 2 May 2021 13: 12
                  -8
                  Impertsi, red and yellow, are fragile and easily injured. The lack of upbringing and education, coupled with the ineradicable complex of the provincial, left indelible imprints on their bright foreheads)
                  1. Trilobite Master
                    Trilobite Master 2 May 2021 15: 17
                    +7
                    Well, this is only in relation to you. laughing
                    You see, in my deep conviction, you do not deserve any other attitude - either ignore you, or send you straight to an erotic tour on foot, instead of "hello", because your manner of communicating and your unsuccessful attempts to seem like something significant does not cause me personally nothing but disgust and condescending contempt.
                    If my previous comment seemed rude to you, accept my apologies, this is solely due to the fact that I tried to express my attitude towards you as briefly as possible, since I do not want to waste time on you at all.
                    For this I conclude our fruitful communication and I will go wash my hands. hi
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 2 May 2021 17: 18
                      -6
                      Again logoroidically justify yourself)

                      By the way, in this dispute, too, the crunch of the opponent's rolls is much more reasoned. And you, as always, have a hysterical stream of rather incoherent words)
            2. Olgovich
              Olgovich 2 May 2021 13: 36
              -3
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              The worst thing was under the Bolsheviks, in the forties.

              in 1914-18 it was exactly the most terrible one.

              And survived in the Second World War, our COUNTRY, like a thousand years before.

              Or did the Bolsheviks at Borodino, Krasny, Poltava, Molodi, Shipka, Izmail, Kulikovo field celebrate? Not? How did Russia manage without them? I can't even believe ... lol
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              As for the Romanovs, it was necessary to be able to run the country in such a way that being in the camp of the winners, to be the losers in the end.

              you will remember, finally, FACT -Antanta, where Russia is the main participant -WIN.

              And lost PMV - power servants of the German occupation unselected Bolsheviks, while NOBODY in the world and in the country of Brest recognized only yours and the invaders (your company is good, yes)
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              With regard to political processes and repressions - it was the same in the countries of "victorious democracies", only against the communists. The authorities must be able to defend themselves and the authorities were able to be Bolsheviks.

              you do not twist, as on, but answer head-on: where, in which country in PEACEFUL time you were shot in a year 640 thousand of their fellow citizens, robbed and exiled millions NOT condemnedx peasants (600 thou dead) in the north (exiled a MILLION children!), millions of uncondemned repr. peoples, threw many millions into the camps, convicted 11 million for truancy, where the term "socially dangerous .. CHILDREN" was used, where they shot the prime minister in peacetime, 75% of the Central Committee, the entire Politburo, dozens of people's commissars, deputies, etc. .? Let's!
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              We weren't afraid. Elections were held at all levels of government. And the way they were carried out is so everywhere

              empty lying TALK. For you, as an example, the freest elections in the world are in the US, where your people gave a ride. Therefore, we were AFRAID of your elections to the point of screeching, and there never was one, even in the form of a farce with fake parties and candidates
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              The people fought for only the second time in their history. The first time this was in 1812. Before that, squads, regiments, armies fought, swearing allegiance to the ruler personally.

              you would go to school, and you will learn a lot of interesting things: about the Russian-Turkish, Russian-Swedish, Russian-Polish and other wars, about Poltava, Sinop, defense
              Sevastopol, about Russian Heroes - Suvorov, Nakhimov, Istomin, Cat, Daria of Sevastopol, etc.
              You missed a lot of interesting things in life - it's not clear how you live ...
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              And in the Second World War it was the people who fought and not for some abstract "fatherland", but for a specific "socialist fatherland", for Soviet power

              fought for the Fatherland, and when it was needed for the power in 1991, NOBODY stood up - it's just a FACT
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              What do you mean by this? THE USSR?

              this is the TOTAL of your power
              Quote: Trilobite Master
              stories have acquired the status of a superpower on a planetary scale,

              why superpowers? For food? By clothes? Housing? For cars? By queues for EVERYTHING? Freedom? According to information? By the availability of the world? Not?

              And for WHAT does a person live? To twist the cast iron? And how is he wearing his sock? And how did Pravda replace the meat with taste? Yes?

              And yes, superpowers do not live only a couple of decades and do not end in peacetime, having empty shelves and coupons for cowards in their assets, yes.
              1. Trilobite Master
                Trilobite Master 2 May 2021 15: 27
                +4
                Something you are overexcited, it seems to me.
                Pull yourself together and re-read what you heaped up. Honestly, I do not even want to deal with this mountain of unrelated facts, a significant part of which is simply not true, and the rest is sheer emotions. You twisted it - you and figure it out. Understand - write.
                1. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 2 May 2021 15: 54
                  -4
                  .
                  Quote: Trilobite Master
                  Honestly, I do not even want to deal with this mountain of unrelated facts, a significant part of which is simply not true, and the rest is sheer emotions.

                  specific clear answers have been given to your statements.

                  asked to answer specific questions. You are not able to answer (obviously there is nothing).

                  And "not true" is true, which the mausoleums carefully (bashfully and with fear for what they did) hid.

                  When you figure it out, then, apparently, you will answer.

                  Good luck!
  • vladcub
    vladcub 1 May 2021 13: 12
    +7
    "not expressive face, short legs" Valery, perhaps you like long-legged ones, but for me short ones are better. It might have hit it, but the short ones were the hottest.
    1. Zug
      Zug 1 May 2021 15: 15
      +1
      not-pralno. as you bend her-legs are short, she herself is like a bun! and well her ... well, in general, you understand wink
      1. Astra wild2
        Astra wild2 1 May 2021 17: 03
        +2
        Lieutenant Zug, do not forget that women are also present on the site
        1. Zug
          Zug 1 May 2021 18: 00
          0
          Well ... it's from pleasant memories winked
      2. vladcub
        vladcub 1 May 2021 17: 25
        0
        Like this
  • vladcub
    vladcub 1 May 2021 14: 24
    0
    Comrades, happy holidays.
    “I tried to set the state down without changing anything in it” because of harm, but what could a henpecked man do?
    If he was going to change something, and his mother prompted him, the wife would eat baldness to annoy her mother-in-law.
  • nickname7
    nickname7 1 May 2021 15: 02
    +8
    The dynasty was brought to a sad end by the fact that in 1762 Peter III issued the Manifesto "On the granting of liberty and freedom to all Russian nobility" from that moment on, history itself began the countdown to the fall of the monarchy.
    Feudalism is a normal system for its time in which the nobles faithfully served the country consuming for the service of the GDP, but having ceased to serve, they continued to consume the GDP and were reborn into parasites and figuratively speaking began to "devour the body of the Republic of Ingushetia" of course this process went smoothly, many nobles still served under Nicholas 2, there are no complaints about them, but the general situation was deplorable, the parasitic drones collected rent and corvee and squandered them, and the people were kept in a bestial state. Neither Lenin, as the monarchists believe, but the noblemen's drones led to the revolution. The monarchy is based on feudalism, but the latter has degenerated.
    In the countries of Europe, the feudal lords were overthrown by the bourgeois - these are merchants, bankers, merchants, these countries went the industrial way.
    Interestingly, in England, they solved the issue of drones, they were ruined, a large annual payment for the estate was introduced there and you need to either rob the Papuans or earn money. RI was devoured by parasites and collapsed.
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 1 May 2021 15: 33
    +2
    Colleagues, everyone on the 1st of May.
    Valery, to be honest: I am surprised by your material, after Merlin and immediately "Hessian fly".
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 1 May 2021 16: 55
    +1
    "they say it is on a nervous lining" at the end of 19, science drew attention to psychology, the name consists of two Greek words: "soul" and "science." Then it was fashionable to explain all diseases by nerves. It is better to read about this in: "Socio-psychological dictionary" - "behaviorism"
  • Astra wild2
    Astra wild2 1 May 2021 17: 18
    +5
    "Seeing that his wife and nephews are in the carriage with him" actually has nothing to do with "the love of Russian people", besides, he is not Russian by nationality, he just did not raise his hand against a woman and children. He told Savinkov something like this that you cannot kill a woman and children.
  • faterdom
    faterdom 1 May 2021 22: 26
    +2
    How Nikolai looks like Medvedev in face, and brains, it seems the same.
    Just mysticism.
    So, given the great desire of Medvedev to stand for Post # 1, I would apply here the philosophical principle of logical induction - also, apparently, it’s not a pity, if anything, to lose the country ... in the name of our chimeras.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 2 May 2021 14: 16
    -1
    I can't get used to the new rules for finding news. I made an interesting observation for myself. The director chose the right person for the role of Nicholas II, suggesting it to Anatoly Romashin:

    For the rest, the topic of the kings that led the empire to collapse does not interest me.
  • kyznets
    kyznets 3 May 2021 06: 14
    -2
    A completely false and empty article. It is unpleasant to read frank demagogy and quotes from Masonic and Trotskyist-Bolshevik propaganda. Compare the industry of absolutely agrarian Russia with industrial Germany and America, despite the fact that they worked at the limit of their capabilities, and Russia was just beginning its industrial growth. About the emperor and empress, in general, is an openly offensive and unsubstantiated lie. And most importantly, it is not a shame to publish what the Masonic publications had already printed before the February 1917 coup, and the yellow press, which was paid for by the British and German intelligence services. The Empress went with her husband and children all the way to the end, did not leave him, leaving to stay with relatives in London. And what is characteristic, they did not abandon either her, or the emperor and her entourage. They also went to the end, under the bullets of the Red Army soldiers of the Chekists. Well, who would go to death for such an emperor, empress and their children, as they are described in this Masonic article? But among them were not only the prince, and the nobles, there were peasants, ordinary people. Well, ain't it a shame to distort the numbers, juggle, throw newspaper lies on the family of the last emperor of Russia? But they repeat it over and over again. Because it is beneficial to Great Britain, with its monarchy, which betrayed the imperial family and took possession of its deposits in London banks, with the same financial interests, it is beneficial to America and the European states. How they all rejoiced at the death of the Royal Passion-Bearers. And our Russians have been picking up all this for more than a hundred years and repeating it. Well, after all, there are figures, there are memories not only of members of the provisional government and Trotskyites-Chekists who tried to justify themselves by slandering, but also those who survived and survived to the end, and those who guarded the imperial family. They regularly changed the guard, because he supported and began to sympathize with the guarded. Therefore, Latvians and foreigners were the last to be put on guard. Read the memoirs of witnesses, documents, figures, before condemning. The imperial family is not strangers to us Russians. These are our ancestors, relatives in flesh and blood, through the communion of the Holy Mysteries of Christ, like all Orthodox saints. They pray for us and for our Motherland.
    1. Olgovich
      Olgovich 3 May 2021 11: 20
      0
      Quote: kyznets
      A completely false and empty article. It is unpleasant to read frank demagogy and quotes from Masonic and Trotskyist-Bolshevik propaganda.

      Exactly!

      The Imperial Chancellor of Germany von Bethmann-Hollweg, on the eve of WWI, said about the main reason for WWI and the need for its immediate start:
      «The future belongs to RUSSIA , which keeps growing and growing and which presses on us more and more, like some kind of dark spirit. "


      This is true about the development of Russia
  • CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz 3 May 2021 20: 34
    +1
    Reading the beginning of the article, the description of the RI is quite suitable for the modern Russian Federation.