The Western press warns Ukraine against claims of a "great Ukrainian victory" after the completion of the RF Armed Forces exercises

The Western press warns Kiev against victorious reports. Recall that immediately after the statement by Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu about the completion of a sudden check of the combat readiness of troops in Ukraine, it was announced that "Putin was afraid of the Ukrainian army and the consolidated position of Ukraine and the West." In the Ukrainian media, a number of speakers decided that this was a “great Ukrainian victory”.

Meanwhile, in the US media, commenting on the statements about the withdrawal of Russian units and formations from the western regions to the points of permanent deployment, about the completion of the RF Armed Forces exercises, they declare “Moscow's cunning”. The next "cunning moves of Putin" appear.

Thus, the American columnist J. Trevithick writes the following:

Russia says it is reducing forces near Ukraine's borders, but we know that not all will be withdrawn. Regardless of whether Russia actually fulfills its announced plans, some of the forces centered around Ukraine will not go anywhere.

Where did the American observer get such "knowledge", he does not say. At the same time, the West continues to pretend that they do not notice the obvious fact: Russian troops are on Russian territory - and they can move along it as much as they like.

In the American press:

The exact size and scope of the Russian troop build-up near Ukraine remains unclear. The Russian Defense Ministry said that it is more than 10 servicemen, 000 warships and 40 pieces of equipment. And the videos demonstrate the full range of capabilities involving forces on land, in the air and in the Black Sea.

J. Trevithick writes that if Russia withdraws ground troops and airborne units from the western borders, then "the naval and air force components will remain." Also, the American observer writes about the transformation of the 56th Guards Airborne Forces and its "Crimean basing."

Thus, they make it clear to Ukraine that it shouted about "victory" before the directives came from overseas partners.

Comments

[mojohed2012]

But after all, these screams and dances on the body of an unkilled bear were already assumed by everyone at VO.
And give the racing propagandists any reason to mock others!

[Insurgent]

The Western press warns Ukraine against claims of a "great Ukrainian victory" after the completion of the RF Armed Forces exercises

Surprisingly, in the West they know (and understand) the Ukrainian proverb better - “ Don't say "Gop", don't jump over "Than on the outskirts itself ...

[max702]

Wait, who have they been fighting with for 7 years ?? Russia again did not come to the war ..

[svp67]

Quote: max702

Wait, who have they been fighting with for 7 years ??

With Russia, just not the one that is beyond the border line, but the one that is within itself ...

[businessv]

Quote: svp67

With Russia, just not the one that is beyond the border line, but the one that is within itself ...

Subtly noticed, bravo!

[Overlock]

Quote: mojohed2012

And give the racing propagandists any reason to mock others!

This is their job! Information war is called

[Xnumx vis]

Warn, do not warn .. Svidotabaki will howl triumphantly striped ... They were scared to bloody diarrhea .. And suddenly the diarrhea was over!

[sergey32]

Zheglov knew about Ukraine.

[figwam]

Quote: 30 vis

And suddenly the diarrhea was over!

Let it continue.

[Labrador]

"Great Ukrainian victory"

What is the victory? Shit on a throat and not choke?

[aszzz888]

Thus, they make it clear to Ukraine that it shouted about "victory" before the directives came from overseas partners.

And when, and where did the Ukronazis win?

[Insurgent]

Quote: aszzz888

And when, and where did the Ukronazis win?

In their opinion - in sports.

An information and propaganda campaign on the outskirts of the "humanization" of the Nazi-fall Shukhevych.

[aszzz888]

Insurgent
Today, 07: 49

... only if a point?

[Revolver]

Quote: Insurgent

Opensource projects Athlete. Showed outstanding results in shooting at civilians. Set a record for running from the NKVD. But in the end he did not escape a well-deserved punishment. And Lyashok took an example from him, but more and more in his mouth.

[Ross xnumx]

Thus, they make it clear to Ukraine that it shouted about "victory" before the directives came from overseas partners.

Thus, Ukraine is made clear that no one will “harness” for it and get “snotty” from the “invincible and legendary, who knew the joy of victories in battles (the bitterness of defeat - too)” the brave “members and circles” of NATO do not intend. And to the question: "Why, actually?", The defendants answer that they are a Vietnamese monetary unit ("I - su").
And the point is not at all about some Ukronazis, but the fact that there are fewer and fewer people in the world who want to fight for the ideas of decayed corpses, which themselves did not achieve ANYTHING during their lifetime !!!

[Overlock]

Quote: ROSS 42

Thus, Ukraine is made clear that no one will “harness” for it and get “snotty” from the “invincible and legendary, who knew the joy of victories in battles (the bitterness of defeat - too)” the brave “members and circles” of NATO do not intend to.

What for? By yourself! USA loses
any option will not turn out to be

[rocket757]

The Western press warns Ukraine against claims of a "great Ukrainian victory" after the completion of the RF Armed Forces exercises

... So this is for internal use, it is necessary to stimulate the skakuas with something. Outside, they are supported by all the same ... they do not need any arguments, proofs, because common sense is absent there by definition.

[cniza]

Let them shout what they want and to whom they want, we have said many times, we are doing our planned work ...

[taiga2018]

They say they feel that the republics are recognized by Russia, in my opinion, for the first time, Putin said the republics several times without adding "self-proclaimed" or even more "unrecognized", and this is not just a bell ...

[Achilles]

Quote: taiga2018

They say they feel that the republics are recognized by Russia, in my opinion, for the first time, Putin said the republics several times without adding "self-proclaimed" or even more "unrecognized", and this is not just a bell ...

I noticed it too, and it's not just that, it's a hint

[Pereira]

I made a reservation. It happens to everyone?

[Nikon O'Conor]

A rather large staff of "speechwriters" is working on VV's words, but Biden can make a reservation, Psaki, and Putin's words are analyzed in great detail in all countries and draw conclusions.

[Pereira]

HSP again? Do you still believe? I thought all the HSP witnesses had already died. Some from hunger, some from old age, some from vodka.

[Nikon O'Conor]

HSP

Excuse me, but did not understand what you mean?

[Pereira]

HPP - Putin's Cunning Plan. Have you not heard?
Everything that happens in our country is only at first glance nonsense, theft and crime. This is actually a disguise. There is such a cunning plan, after the implementation of which we will all wake up rich and happy. You just have to wait a bit and vote correctly in the elections.

[Nikon O'Conor]

Oh, yes, I heard it somewhere. No, I'm not talking about that. The current position of the Russian Federation in the world, is far from the same as in the 90s, in the West they are well aware of this, Therefore, all its "hints" are very seriously analyzed. Because he is not a temporary worker, like theirs (he came and after 4 years already another), but it seems to the end (his end or the end of Russia), it does not matter whether we like it or not. Just take it for granted. Tsars, then general secretaries ruled to the grave. Personally, I think this is the right approach. After all, stealing and merging is much worse for the country.

[Pereira]

This approach has the right to be.
But there is one subtlety. Bench for spare. If he dies tomorrow, who will replace it? I am not considering exotic options such as Shoigu or Kadyr. The kings had heirs, who were trained from childhood.
Can you name a couple of indiscriminate personalities of the all-Russian scale, without children abroad, who is able to take power and not disgrace themselves? Who has he trained to replace in 20 years?
Only one surname comes to mind, and even that Grudinin.
No matter how everything collapsed overnight, like the power of Alexander the Great simply from the fact that the king died.

[shinobi]

Do you remind you how VVP itself came to power? Who knew him at all? So, a "former" KGB agent in Sobchak's retinue. Putin is the "face" of the "junta" of military and security officials who made the Bene drunk an offer he could not refuse .The next president after Putin is before our eyes, but we do not see him and do not notice him yet. When Putin leaves the Kremlin, and in the case of "juntas" it is only with feet forward, we will be presented with him. Or when the junta decides that it is time, himself he will not be allowed to leave. Own GDP has already tried to dump, it is clear that he was tired and age, but he was simply not given. And the figure of Medvedev is frankly weak. And the actor is worthless.
PS: The entourage makes the king.

[Nikon O'Conor]

Bene drunk

You shouldn't be so. Of course, as a leader, he frankly did not pull, But the situation was awful, the country was dying out, Jewish bankers were in power, he simply could not do anything, he did not have a team, and after a tough political decision they could simply shoot him. He could not implement anything concrete. Wouldn't give it. But there is also something to respect him. For example, when he (it seems) was flying to Germany, he did not want to sign an agreement on complete nuclear disarmament of the Russian Federation, but he could not do anything about it. He found the only possible way out. Stupidly got drunk on the plane, flew in, went out to piss on the plane's landing gear (when there was a toilet in the cabin) showed the whole world in which out he was and then flew away. The contract was not signed. Yes, he covered himself with shame, but only himself.

[shinobi]

And who prevented Bene from reaching an agreement in quiet with the military? With the same Grachev? No. He tried to reign in one, and immediately put him in his place. I saw this phenomenon live on a tank climbing, accidentally passing through Moscow then turned out to be a leader to me extremely disliked.

[Nikon O'Conor]

Well, I could ... But the army at that time was a weak support. The army, which everyone was afraid of, was crushed, destroyed in especially brutal ways, and who? ..... Grachev would not have supported him, since he himself was aiming at supreme.

[shinobi]

Weak? It depends. Veterans of the Afghan and the first Chechen in any way supported him. That actually happened, but later. When the very existence of Russia was at stake. And Benya was "asked" to vacate his post, because he was already a full scribe.

[Nikon O'Conor]

The kings had heirs, who were trained from childhood.

Yes, there is a problem with this.
Well, besides Shoigu, I see another one, I don't remember his last name, he is like a minister of industry, such a hoarse, far from old and quite concrete person. Nowhere does it really shine, but does its job. This is so, at a glance.

[Lech from Android.]

Well, of course ... Zelensky stopped the Russian aggressors by his appearance in Donbass ... he even made an offer to Putin about a meeting on the fields of Donbass, Putin was scared and wants negotiations in Moscow.
Here Shoigu so successfully announced the completion of the exercises near the borders of Ukraine and the withdrawal of troops into the depths of Russia.
Unambiguously, from all the irons of housewives in the Square will broadcast the news about the great victory of Ukraine over Russia.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: Lech from Android.

about the great victory of Ukraine over Russia.

Oooh! You have not heard how Saakashvili whipped, how he drove the Russians away from Tbilisi !!!! This is where the talent of the actor disappeared.

[Pereira]

He did, he didn't, and Georgia was not cleaned out. Now there is the US foothold forever.

[dauria]

He did, he didn't, and Georgia was not cleaned out. Now there is the US foothold forever.

So it is the same with Ukraine. The current situation suits both the United States and the Ukrainian authorities. Creeping into NATO. Time works for them. And the DPR is on their side. So whatever one may say, they did not lose.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Unambiguously, from all the irons of housewives in the Square will broadcast the news about the great victory of Ukraine over Russia.

That sho there yakas "Victory" ... "Remogha"- oce (it) moon (sounds)

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Zelensky stopped the Russian aggressors with one of his

An armored bun.

[Konstantin Gogolev]

it is more than 10 military personnel
Well, yes, a little over 10.000.

[tralflot1832]

No, you can't convince them. They themselves figured out that their end was coming, then they figured out that it wouldn’t come thanks to them. This is not so important, but the Ukrainian problem with the deployment of troops near the borders has not been resolved. DPR and LPR. I hope Peskov's words: And we will provide other assistance.

[Prisoner]

Useless. These fools were delayed in development at the level of a street snotty little boy, stupid and aggressive. To whom it is impossible to realize that the uncle did not beat him only because it is not good for uncles with jerks to get involved in fights. But to punish if it goes beyond it is easy. So let them swagger. Let's laugh heartily.

[prior]

There was a case of shooting from the Caspian with Calibers in Syria.
In Kiev, they do not even keep in mind that a salvo of only the Caspian flotilla can leave Ukraine without a single bridge across the Dnieper. And then what?!
They are all waiting for tanks. But most likely they will not wait.
There is also the Baltic and Black Sea Fleets, and the Northern Fleet will probably reach out if they are connected.
And the garish lads will sit in the trenches with the Javelins, waiting for the tanks until the very surrender.
I don't even remember about aviation and Iskander. The coordinates of the armament depots of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, airfields, petrol storages are well known.
So let them celebrate Peremogu. They all have such peremogs that in Ilovaisk, in Debaltseve, in the Maidan ...

[tralflot1832]

So it seems that one division was left in the camps, so that they looked sideways to the east with caution.

[Ru_Na]

Well, that's it, Russia has completed the exercises, now the "formidable" Ukrainian wars will crawl out from behind the bushes and start screaming about their "peremoge"!

[Holuay T.O]

Yes, I do not understand why the 56th glorified brigade should be squeezed to the regiment? CHO IT IS IMPOSSIBLE TO CHANGE THE BRIGADE IN THE CRIMEA?

[Revolver]

Yes they have all the time peremoga... Which then it turns out that zrada. In short hack.

[Overlock]

They make it clear to Ukraine that it shouted about "victory" before the directives came from overseas partners.

They love this business! Bouncers, in a word

[rotmistr60]

"Putin was afraid of the Ukrainian army and the consolidated position of Ukraine and the West"

Here are the ones on! They did not have time to run back across Europe asking for help and intercession and simultaneously changing diapers for their elite, when she came herself. Correctly, the Western press is trying to cool the Ukrainian ardor and joyful screams, which is very strange for the Western media, but only this is like peas against a wall.

[iouris]

"To warn Ukraine" is already ridiculous. The overwhelming majority are not even able to understand what happened, and those who understand are not able to admit. Of course, the trousers will stretch out, and they will begin to trumpet about the victory: "Europa has been stolen."

[Insurgent]

Quote: iouris

the trousers will stretch out, and they will begin to trumpet about the victory: "Europa was kidnapped".

And there it is wider - the planet Earth, the galaxy, the universe ...

[cniza]

Thus, they make it clear to Ukraine that it shouted about "victory" before the directives came from overseas partners.

Confused themselves ...

[tatarin1972]

Almost all the high command of the Armed Forces of Ukraine graduated from the universities of the USSR and Russia. What did they start drinking and smoking after gaining independence ?! Or brains swam with fat ?! I'm not talking about politicians, they are not sane at all. The ex-president sleeps with a barrel on the bedside table, are there normal people left?

[Nord11]

The victorious screams are designed for internal consumption, because when there is nothing to boast about, you need to invent a reason for this ..

[Ulrich]

I, as an outside reader, do not understand how the author of this article from 2 quotes of some J. Trevithick sucked it "Thus, Ukraine is given to understand that it shouted about the" victory "before the directives came from overseas partners."?

[Dmitry10SPb]

I didn't quite understand why my comment was deleted. For the opinion of the Western press, an article was issued by a freelance author of an Internet portal about cars and equipment. A scam, however.

[Vdi73]

It has long been necessary to recognize the republics within the borders of 2014 and not fool them not Russia as a whole. And they once tied their hands in Minsk, 1,2, XNUMX, only, long ago this hemorrhoid in the form of a banderlogy would not have existed, but now everything is more complicated.

[Dmitry10SPb]

Have you tried to think? What will the EU and the US retaliate with? And the next one from them? It is difficult to think, but it is necessary. Think.

[Vdi73]

What are the steps of the EU and the US? There will be no worse relations and sanctions, just a lot of real estate and families of high-ranking Russian "patriots" in the West.

[tank64rus]

They left, but promised to return.

[Barberry25]

there are a couple of important points:
1) Russia has shown that it can quickly transfer forces to the conflict zone, and exercises are the best way to consolidate skills.
2) Not all forces were withdrawn.
For a snack: the withdrawal of troops is connected with the most important agreements, I think that the Armed Forces of Ukraine will now hide plans for a spring-summer attack on the LPNR for a long time ..

[petrol cutter]

"The Western press warns Ukraine against making statements about a" great Ukrainian victory "after the completion of the RF Armed Forces exercises"
Yeah. I tend to agree with this.
Ours flew so fiercely (just like the last time). Never flew like this before ...
Today, only the helicopter pilots have calmed down.
Now, behind the clouds, the propeller-driven group cuts circles. Judging by the distant hum of the engines.

[Nord11]

After the appearance of Russian troops in Crimea and at its borders, Ukraine rushed to complain to the EU and the United States, and now, after the return of troops to their places of permanent deployment, even without having time to remove the trousers, they are trumpeting about their next change. Funny and pathetic ..