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"Without Ukraine, Russia cannot become a world power": the Western press appreciated the deployment of Russian troops

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The increase in the contingent of Russian troops on the western borders of the country, caused by the conduct of the exercises, attracts close attention of the Western press. Basically, the publications replicate the statements of American and European politicians, trying to give them an "analytical" shell.


Expansion will begin from Ukraine


ASPI Strategist, positioning itself as an expert center, did not remain aloof from this process. The author of one of the materials tried to find the background of Russia's military activity on the borders of Ukraine.

According to him, in 2014, the support of the United States, provided by the Independent, helped to stop the "green men". Therefore, it cost only the "capture" of 7% of the territory. Instead of acquiring new territories, Moscow received huge expenses necessary to maintain Crimea and Donbass - "economically devastated and cut off from the world economy." However, the Russian authorities cannot stop there.

Without Ukraine, Russia cannot become a world power, and this is precisely the goal of Russian President Vladimir Putin

- the author believes, assessing the deployment of Russian troops.

According to him, the seizure of the square is only a prologue to the further expansion of the Kremlin.

If Russia now conquered Ukraine, Poland would be next in line

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He explains that for 250 of the last 300 years, this country was also part of the Russian Empire:

The independence that Poland and Ukraine gained with America's Cold War victory remains a lasting testament to US superiority.




All forces on China


However, as the author notes, the new head of the White House, Joseph Biden, distances himself from both of these states. In the case of Andrzej Duda, this neglect could be justified by "the four-year admiration of the Polish leader for Donald Trump." But the situation with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky looks symptomatic: he greeted Biden's victory in the elections with euphoria, but he waited two months for the call, and then at a critical moment in the deployment of Russian troops near his borders.

Another article by ASPI Strategist explains the turn of US foreign policy, but from a different angle - when analyzing the reasons that prompted the withdrawal of the American military from Afghanistan. According to the author, the change in landmarks is caused by a sharp shift in Washington's emphasis on the Asia-Pacific direction:

US attention has shifted to an urgent fight with China.


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  1. newcomer
    newcomer April 19 2021 00: 26
    +22
    Oh, every insect imagines itself as an "analyst". How stupid and straightforward "historical parallels" are there. Well, straight, stick here and Finland_ and the complete picture of the "analytical genius". laughing
    1. letinant
      letinant April 19 2021 01: 26
      +9
      Brzezinski read a lot. In fact, the Americans themselves did not consider him a strong analyst.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter April 19 2021 01: 42
        +9
        Quote: letinant
        Brzezinski read a lot. In fact, the Americans themselves did not consider him a strong analyst.

        Bzhe is still disgusting, but before him a certain Bismarck argued that “The power of Russia can be undermined only by the separation of Ukraine from it ... it is necessary not only to tear away, but also to oppose Ukraine to Russia. To do this, you just need to find and nurture traitors among the elite and, with their help, change the self-consciousness of one part of the great people to such an extent that they will hate everything Russian, hate their kind, without realizing it. Everything else is a matter of time. "
        1. Olgovich
          Olgovich April 19 2021 06: 15
          +17
          Quote: Stroporez
          Bismarck argued that “The power of Russia can be undermined only by the separation of Ukraine from it ... it is necessary not only to tear away, but also to oppose Ukraine

          Nonsense. Bismarck did not say this never.

          Here is what the Germans themselves write about it:
          DW: “There is no evidence - no notes of the chancellor himself, no minutes of his speeches, no draft letters, no memoirs of his contemporaries, which would mention something like that”,
          DW: Bismarck could not speak these phrases, because he simply did not know the word "Ukraine"
          1. bayard
            bayard April 19 2021 21: 29
            -2
            Quote: Olgovich
            because he simply did not know the word "Ukraine"

            Bismarck in his years worked a lot in the field of ambassador in St. Petersburg from Prussia and therefore knew the Russian Empire well. The one that knew the word Ukraine \ UkrAina. I knew that this was a borderland, where the Russian population for a long time vegetated under the yoke of the Polish invaders ... and partly even Turkey. And that during the period of the new development of these empty lands, they were settled not only by the transfer of serfs from indigenous Russia, but also by German colonists, immigrants from the Czech Republic, the Balkans (Greeks, Serbs, etc.) ... and carriers of infection, it was not difficult. Moreover, the lands of Little Russia and New Russia were in the Pale of Settlement.
            And whether it was Bismarck who said it, or it was invented in the Austrian General Staff - this is the third thing.
            The main thing is that such work has been carried out since the time of the traitors T. Shevchenko, L. Ukrainka and other "kamenyarov" ... And precisely - by the Austrian General Staff. It was for Austrian money that their libels and "artistic" feces were published ... They were published ON THE TERRITORY of the Austrian Empire.
            And Bismarck, of course, could be credited.
            It was he, by the way, who always dissuaded the Germans from enmity, and even more so from war with Russia. And these words of his are definitely not the fiction of the Austrians.
            1. Olgovich
              Olgovich April 20 2021 06: 44
              -1
              Quote: bayard
              Bismarck in his years worked a lot in the field of the ambassador in St. Petersburg from Prussia and therefore knew the Russian Empire well. The one that the word Ukraine \ UkrAina knew

              but the Germans did not find a single mention of him, neither in reports, nor in letters, anywhere.
              1. bayard
                bayard April 20 2021 06: 58
                +3
                Quote: bayard
                And whether it was Bismarck who said it, or it was invented in the Austrian General Staff - this is the third thing.
                The main thing is that such work has been carried out since the time of the traitors T. Shevchenko, L. Ukrainka and other "kamenyarov" ... And precisely - by the Austrian General Staff. It was for Austrian money that their libels and "artistic" feces were published ... They were published ON THE TERRITORY of the Austrian Empire.
                And Bismarck, of course, could be credited.

                This plan is really attributed to Bismarck, but the fact of the matter is that it was he - Bismarck CATEGORALLY did not advise the Germans to ever fight the Russians. So there really is a discrepancy among the counterfeiters. And the goal is obvious and even voiced more than once - in no case to prevent the union of Russia and Germany. For this will be a completely self-sufficient union. And the power will surpass the English Saxons.
                It is for this that they - the Angles, did everything so that the Russians and the Germans exterminated each other in the two bloodiest wars.
                But in the Austrian General Staff there was such a plan - that's for sure.
                It is precisely to create conditions (invented language, "history", "literature" lol ) and the separation of the primordial Russian lands (which had the bitter experience of Polish rule) - "Ukraine" from the native Russia.
                And for the "authority" and diversion - let the cartoon about Bismarck.
                It's good that the Germans rummaged through the archives, otherwise it would be complete stupidity.
      2. Overlock
        Overlock April 19 2021 11: 11
        +27
        Quote: letinant
        In fact, the Americans themselves did not consider him a strong analyst.

        Illiterate! Have not read, but everyone is doing according to his theory.
        1. letinant
          letinant April 19 2021 11: 40
          +1
          Quote: Overlock
          Quote: letinant
          In fact, the Americans themselves did not consider him a strong analyst.

          Illiterate! Have not read, but everyone is doing according to his theory.

          I disagree with you if they did it according to Brzezinski. Long ago would have been accepted into the EU and NATO. The essence of their policy is to make us more problems on our borders. Need to explain why?
          1. Overlock
            Overlock April 19 2021 11: 50
            +25
            Quote: letinant
            I disagree with you if they did it according to Brzezinski. I would have long been accepted into the EU and NATO.

            Do you want everything at once? This does not happen, but the trend is important and the yardstick is the final result
          2. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov April 19 2021 20: 39
            0
            Freaky this American author. Like most Westerners. "Without Ukraine, Russia cannot become a world power." Russia already world power and without all the former republics! But with them it will be even stronger! Joining the Russian Federation of Belarus and Ukraine will dramatically increase the authority of Russia and set an example for others. But this - for some reason - does not happen ...
  2. hrych
    hrych April 19 2021 00: 30
    +15
    “Without Ukraine, Russia cannot become a world power” is a stupid stereotype of the West. So the Russian Federation and so the world power, even burst.
    1. apro
      apro April 19 2021 05: 07
      -5
      Quote: hrych
      So the Russian Federation and so the world power, even burst

      There is no need to crack, but to determine by what parameters it would be interesting, otherwise all the greatness will be the merit of the great ancestors, and from the achievements of the Russian Federation is the pouring of sewage on the great ancestors and the systematic destruction of their heritage together with the population.
      1. Katanikotael
        Katanikotael April 19 2021 05: 29
        -2
        Update the manual, Russia has been declared the main threat to the entire Western world, China is still in third place.
        1. apro
          apro April 19 2021 05: 32
          -5
          Quote: Katanikotael
          Update the manual, Russia has been declared the main threat to the entire Western world,

          Yes, you INTO?!?!? So that the West is reinforced with resources taken from its own people?
        2. Overlock
          Overlock April 19 2021 11: 12
          +21
          Quote: Katanikotael
          Russia has been declared the main threat to the entire Western world, China is still in third place.

          If about a manual, then confirm with the original text. In Biden's speech, Russia is mentioned 6 times, and China is mentioned much more.
          1. Katanikotael
            Katanikotael April 19 2021 13: 04
            -1
            Oh yes, I was wrong, China is in second place ...
            https://www.nato.int/nato_static_fl2014/assets/pdf/2020/12/pdf/201201-Reflection-Group-Final-Report-Uni.pdf
            Biden says a lot of things in his speeches, often forgets, so referring to him is just that ...
      2. Hlavaty
        Hlavaty April 19 2021 12: 11
        +1
        Quote: apro
        It is not necessary to crack. But it would be interesting to determine by what parameters.

        Indeed, it would be very interesting. Especially the comparison of the US, EU, China and RF markets. And which manufacturers dominate these markets.
        Or, for example, such a question: should a world power have its own automobile industry, and not an assembly of foreign cars.
        Even remembering about microelectronics is somehow inconvenient.
    2. Andrei Nikolaevich
      Andrei Nikolaevich April 19 2021 05: 15
      -2
      This nonsense about "" not becoming a world power "has been repeated for more than one generation. Without Ukraine, we will definitely achieve more. Too expensive" friendship "turns out, for us.
      1. apro
        apro April 19 2021 05: 25
        -6
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        Too expensive "friendship" turns out, for us.

        Are you worried about the lordly loot Andrei Nikolaevich ??? commendable. Commendable.
        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
        Without Ukraine, we will definitely achieve more.

        This is excellently said. Of course, you can take more from the territory of the Russian Federation. And drag it away than from the territory of Ukraine ...
        1. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich April 19 2021 05: 55
          +1
          Which vocational school you were taught to communicate like that?
          1. apro
            apro April 19 2021 06: 32
            0
            Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
            This is you from which vocational school

            Andrey Nikolaevich Your comments on this topic do not contain the real state of affairs not in Ukraine, not in the Russian Federation, and speculation and rhetoric are not reality.
            1. Andrei Nikolaevich
              Andrei Nikolaevich April 19 2021 07: 27
              -1
              You are deeply mistaken.
              1. apro
                apro April 19 2021 09: 47
                +4
                Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                You are deeply mistaken.

                The fact that the Russian Federation is a world power? There is no such data. In the fact that the division of our people is a blessing ??? Yes, I am sure that this is a blessing for the bourgeoisie.
                1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                  Andrei Nikolaevich April 19 2021 10: 27
                  -2
                  Where did you see "our peoples"? Ukraine is a foreign state. With its own domestic and foreign policy. Do not believe me? .. Look at the results of the elections to the Verkhovna Rada. The pro-Russian party did not score even 15 percent. Here's an objective picture. Stop believing in "miracles." Build on real results. And there is no need to drag in some kind of "bourgeois".
                  1. apro
                    apro April 19 2021 10: 38
                    +3
                    Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                    Where did you see "our peoples"?

                    Not ours, but our people.
                    Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                    Ukraine is a foreign state.

                    And here you are for one thing with the Western soothsayers. And you agree with the division of our people.
                    Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                    Look at the results of the elections to the parliament.

                    It is enough for me to look at the Russian elections.
                    Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                    And there is no need to drag in some kind of "bourgeois".

                    Not some of those who have the power of money, who are ready to shed blood for the sake of profit, sow grief, and who are vitally interested in the enmity and split of our people.
                    1. Andrei Nikolaevich
                      Andrei Nikolaevich April 19 2021 10: 42
                      -1
                      I see that there is no point in talking to you. My advice to you: imagine for a moment that you are not at a party meeting with the eternal phrases "bourgeois", "our peoples", etc., etc.
                      Live Reality.
                      1. apro
                        apro April 19 2021 10: 46
                        +2
                        Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
                        Live Reality

                        Good for you, Andrei Nikolaevich. Today's real life makes you happy. And do not worry about the future of your children. We found ourselves in this reality. Good luck.
                      2. Andrei Nikolaevich
                        Andrei Nikolaevich April 19 2021 10: 49
                        +2
                        Why am I not worried? I am very worried. Learn. I bring up. Thank God, they are sensible. Lucky. And I wish your children health and happiness.
    3. New Year day
      New Year day April 19 2021 09: 19
      -6
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Without Ukraine, we will definitely achieve more

      What about the engines for frigates and helicopters? laughing During the years of Nezalezhnosti "Motor Sich" has put 14 engines on stream, and how much are you?
      1. FrankyStein
        FrankyStein April 19 2021 11: 37
        +4
        Who built the motors? Who raised the entire industry and science? Ukrainians? wassat Selyuk by themselves would never have created anything like this, even in theory. These productions were needed by Russia, and not by any skakuas, and were built at the will of Russia, for Russia. They could have been placed on its territory, if the scoop had not pleased any "brothers" and had not placed them in all sorts of exotic places, like Tashkent and Kuevs, which now boast of what they did not create and could not create in principle.
    4. Overlock
      Overlock April 19 2021 11: 10
      +17
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Without Ukraine, we will definitely achieve more.

      What are the successes in 20 years? Or are you all dreaming?
  3. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis April 19 2021 07: 29
    +3
    Quote: hrych
    “Without Ukraine, Russia cannot become a world power” is a stupid stereotype of the West. So the Russian Federation and so the world power, even burst.

    But you must agree that together with Ukraine, Belarus, Russia will be an order of magnitude stronger! Naturally, the ukriya is now plundered and will pull back ... But. everything is solvable.
  4. ramzay21
    ramzay21 April 19 2021 21: 00
    +2
    So the Russian Federation and so the world power, even burst.

    Modern Russia is not a superpower like the USA or China, or like the USSR was. The economy of the Russian Federation is at the level of South Korea and much smaller than the economies of Japan, Germany and France, and this is the reality and the result of the struggle of our government with our own country over the past 30 years.
  • tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 April 19 2021 00: 36
    +8
    Yes, they got it with this dead American of Polish descent. Without Ukraine, we are no one! Since the age of 14, it seems like we are not living badly? We are drawing a red line for the west, we have deployed 8 armies on the western borders, of which 3 are tank. Who will go to fight against us, an average European, who is all in credits, but he needs it. "everything is gone," credit and credit are different from the European
    A loan of hundreds of thousands of euros, and they know how to count as we do. Arabs, refugees did not accept the values ​​of gay Europe and do not want not only to be cannon fodder, but also to work. In addition to refugees, he also drew a coyote, Even in the standard for many, in Finland the police arrest protestors. Tomorrow begins the working week, let's see! Putin VV would still be silent until the video of the summit On climate warming. I like it when he is silent.
    1. HAM
      HAM April 19 2021 01: 11
      +1
      Here, just when he is silent, some can and write ...
    2. Overlock
      Overlock April 19 2021 11: 31
      +22
      Quote: tralflot1832
      We have been living well since 14 years old? We are drawing a red line for the west, we have 8 armies deployed on the western frontiers, of which 3 are tank armies.

      Are these achievements? Better tell us about a domestic phone or TV
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 April 19 2021 11: 35
        -1
        I can tell you about my house on the northern coast of the Black Sea, and this is not the country.
        1. Overlock
          Overlock April 19 2021 11: 51
          +22
          Quote: tralflot1832
          I can tell you about my house on the northern coast of the Black Sea, and this is not the country.

          Maybe in the east?
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 April 19 2021 11: 55
            +1
            I know where north and south are, I don’t confuse the west with the east, it’s not in vain that I spent most of my life at sea, and now I use the results of my labor, which is what I wish for you.
            1. Overlock
              Overlock April 19 2021 11: 58
              +21
              Quote: tralflot1832
              Where is north and south, I know, west and east do not confuse

              I have no doubt, but the house is in Sochi! Or did you buy another one in Crimea?
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 April 19 2021 12: 01
                -2
                I'm not the captain, only enough for Sochi!
    3. hydrox
      hydrox April 19 2021 18: 25
      +1
      He will not be able to remain silent until the virtual summit, he has a Message from the Fed tomorrow. To the meeting: and, moreover, to hang a dozen of the striped ambassador with a pendulum, who did not want to fly away from M-you.
      Maybe it made sense to send him to the States via near space without a spacesuit?
      Starved! laughing
  • Andrey Grad
    Andrey Grad April 19 2021 00: 51
    0
    Just the opposite. The outskirts of Russia, White Russia, the Baltic States are primordially Russian land, with the majority of the Russian population, which is now occupied by the West. Having become a world power, Russia will return its territories.
  • Konstantin Gogolev
    Konstantin Gogolev April 19 2021 01: 03
    0
    I thought very deeply about the words of this "expert" and I can say the following ...
    "Thanks for the video - though not fresh." I did not notice anything else interesting and new).
  • lopvlad
    lopvlad April 19 2021 01: 23
    +2
    Without Ukraine, Russia cannot become a world power


    Russia is a world power and no power will tolerate the existence of a hostile gadyushnik in its underbelly. As for the value of today's Ukraine as a state for Russia, it is zero.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter April 19 2021 02: 04
      -11%
      Quote: lopvlad
      As for the value of today's Ukraine as a state for Russia, it is zero.

      Well, yes, only Bismarck bequeathed, “The power of Russia can be undermined only by the separation of Ukraine from her ... it is necessary not only to tear away, but also to oppose Ukraine to Russia. To do this, you only need to find and nurture traitors among the elite and with their help change the self-consciousness of one part of the great people to such an extent that they will hate everything Russian, hate their kind, without realizing it. Everything else is a matter of time. "
      Tinplate as a prophecy .....
      1. Alex Justice
        Alex Justice April 19 2021 11: 49
        +3
        I doubt that Bismarck knew what Ukraine was. There was no Ukraine then.
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 19 2021 03: 22
      -3
      Quote: lopvlad
      As for the value of today's Ukraine as a state for Russia, it is zero.

      This statehood was originally bogus. An artificial unification of the lands of the Russian Empire and some kind of Zaporozhye Sich. This is all today and responds to us with various quirks.
      To put a horseradish on all this and act in the interests of strengthening their own statehood, not contradicting the will of the peoples.
  • Egor53
    Egor53 April 19 2021 01: 59
    +1
    Russia and without any Ukraine is a world superpower. And in speed, most of today's Ukraine will become part of Russia. Ukronazism must be destroyed, as we once destroyed German Nazism. And we will do it.
    1. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx April 19 2021 03: 34
      -8
      Quote: Egor53
      Russia and without any Ukraine is a world superpower.

      Yes, yes, yes ... Direct superpower ambitions:

      And this is two years ago:

      And finally, this year:

      The spirit of a superpower is directly felt ... It is bursting with pride for ... Like that peasant whom the woman sent for the tree:

      lol
      1. Achilles
        Achilles April 19 2021 08: 36
        0
        Quote: ROSS 42
        Yes, yes, yes ... Direct superpower ambitions:
         Show / Hide text

        And this is two years ago:
         Show / Hide text

        And finally, this year:
         Show / Hide text

        The spirit of a superpower is directly felt ... It is bursting with pride for ... Like that peasant whom the woman sent for the tree:

        Everything that you have demonstrated is available in the United States and in larger quantities, and this is not an indicator
    2. New Year day
      New Year day April 19 2021 09: 21
      +1
      Quote: Egor53
      And we will do it.

      Self-conceit is off scale laughing
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  • Ilya Alekseychik
    Ilya Alekseychik April 19 2021 03: 44
    -5
    Bismarck was three times right, because he knew Russian history and geography well. If Russia does not own the entire territory from Altai to the Carpathians, then sooner or later it risks losing its granary in the North Caucasus. Nothing personal.
  • apro
    apro April 19 2021 04: 37
    +1
    Russia, Ukraine, Belarus, one people. one state.
    The comments on the article perfectly show. That the West managed to split our people. Squeals of the urapatriots which Ukrainians and Belarusians are not good. What a good Russian master. And what not good masters they have. Today there is no goal of reuniting our people. There is a goal to optimize the population size. There is. the goal is to enslave even more economically and rob ultimately. and this is the work of several Western partners of the Russian bar. and themselves.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty April 19 2021 04: 52
    +3
    We will simply correct the historical mistake, the creation of the Ukrainian non-state, at the expense of the Russian lands. Let us return the land back, and let Europe take these Ukrainians for itself.
  • Vasyan1971
    Vasyan1971 April 19 2021 04: 58
    +3
    If Russia now conquered Ukraine, Poland would be next in line

    Ah ah ah, why did you forget to fasten the Tribaltika, analyte?wassat
    1. hydrox
      hydrox April 19 2021 18: 34
      0
      Quote: Vasyan1971
      and why did I forget to fasten the Tribaltika?

      He did not forget: in the Baltics the water is bad everywhere and drinking this water down to democracy causes genetic brain-thinning - Poland has seen this for 40 years, the rest of the Tribalta have seen it for 30 years, and the Vikings since 34. laughing
  • Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 19 2021 05: 30
    -3
    If Bismarck had seen the current state of Ukraine - unemployment, lack of economy, debts, he would have said quite the opposite.
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 April 19 2021 07: 01
    0
    On April 21, many thoughts of our President will be voiced. And before that it is not worth guessing.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 19 2021 08: 03
    0
    "Without Ukraine, Russia cannot become a world power": the Western press appreciated the deployment of Russian troops
    We can say that it is complete nonsense !!! But not to confirm, not refuted will not work.
    You can give it to FAITH! but still, everything remains very difficult.
    1. cniza
      cniza April 19 2021 09: 02
      +1
      Good time! hi

      This is a hackneyed stamp of one well-known Russophobe and no more ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 19 2021 09: 22
        0
        Welcome soldier
        The fact that all sorts of different people say is intended for those who are not stuck in the mind, this is understandable.
        But, a worm of doubt to plant some, they can.
        Now we have a period of some instability of consciousness, there is NO STATE IDEOLOGY, and this is harmful for any country, and in a period when there is a riot in society, it is dangerous.
        We have many problems in many directions !!! The problem of educating the younger generation really exists and it is dangerous.
        Foreign bales bale where the situation is especially unstable !!!
        And we, perhaps, that moo, but DO NOT CALIFY !!! This is impossible, we, the country, can lose too much.
        1. cniza
          cniza April 19 2021 09: 29
          +1
          Yes, now there is a struggle for young people and we need to work here, but what about Ukraine? she will not run away, there may be chaos soon ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 19 2021 09: 45
            0
            Everyone knows that young people are our future ... mistakes in educating citizens can lead to disaster.
            1. cniza
              cniza April 19 2021 09: 49
              +1
              Therefore, the United States is hitting the most vulnerable part, and for now we are prospering ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 19 2021 10: 12
                0
                The question is ... why is nothing being done? Who benefits from it?
                1. cniza
                  cniza April 19 2021 11: 56
                  +1
                  Two points:
                  - will dissolve by itself;
                  - misunderstanding in this matter.
                  I don't want to believe in premeditation, but indifference may be present ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 April 19 2021 11: 58
                    0
                    Quote: cniza
                    I don't want to believe in premeditation

                    And I don’t want to believe, and even less want to be convinced of this .. on my own skin, for example !!!
                    1. cniza
                      cniza April 19 2021 12: 03
                      +1
                      Yes, but indifference is even worse ...
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 April 19 2021 12: 29
                        0
                        Indifference or confidence in hopelessness ???
                        Neither one nor the other did anyone good.
    2. New Year day
      New Year day April 19 2021 09: 23
      -1
      Quote: rocket757
      You can give it to FAITH!

      Why on faith? Shipbuilding, engine building - not an indicator?
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 19 2021 09: 44
        0
        We have a lot of problems and all of them need to be solved. The decision of some is already a question of preserving the state, preserving the nation and ...
        The position of those who say that our main problem is close to me is .... everything very much depends on the SYSTEM, which controls all processes in the state! Whatever you call them, now it depends on the leadership, the government, the ruling elite ..... if confusion starts there, a grounded struggle for power, the country will be very bad.
        I don't love them all very much ... if I put it that way, but I have to admit that EVERYTHING depends on them now.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day April 19 2021 10: 06
          -1
          Quote: rocket757
          The position of those who say that our main problem is close to me is .... everything very much depends on the SYSTEM, which controls all processes in the state!

          I totally agree! And I must admit that this system does not work for the people.
          Quote: rocket757
          if confusion starts there,

          It cannot but be! Even in the Central Committee of the CPSU it was like that, under Stalin it was. In nature, young lions either kill or drive out the old leader from the pack, and only among people ...
          Quote: rocket757
          EVERYTHING now depends on them.

          But this is a DISADVANTAGE when nothing depends on us. Doesn't it depend in which case? - When the "herd" and the Leader decides everything for him! Alas!
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 19 2021 10: 20
            +2
            It is strange to look at a "herd" ... not like rams, one and the same, but ready to go where they lead ...
            1. New Year day
              New Year day April 19 2021 10: 43
              -1
              Quote: rocket757
              It is strange to look at a "herd" ... not like rams, one and the same, but ready to go where they lead ...

              Where to go? The drivers! You only think about not falling into the abyss first
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 April 19 2021 11: 18
                +1
                The situation with the "drivers" can be assessed in different ways ... because they constantly, if not completely, fought off the herd, they wander in the wrong direction, a certain number of "lambs" ... the "driver" does not pay much attention to them. For various reasons, of course ... and those are the reasons!
  • cniza
    cniza April 19 2021 09: 01
    +3
    The independence that Poland and Ukraine gained with America's Cold War victory remains a lasting testament to US superiority.


    We defeated ourselves, and you didn't even understand anything ...
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor April 19 2021 11: 42
    0
    All the empires that held this territory collapsed, the Swedes, the Psheki Germans, the Union did not need it for nothing.
  • Financier
    Financier April 19 2021 16: 20
    +7
    Without Ukraine, Russia cannot become a world power

    laughing Russia is already a world power.
  • Decimalegio
    Decimalegio April 19 2021 20: 50
    +2
    Stop chatting, invade Ukraine and let's get it over with. Since I signed up, the News and Opinions sections have been repeating the same thing over and over again, after a while it gets boring. Take the first step.
    1. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk April 20 2021 19: 36
      0
      Quote: Decimalegio
      Stop chatting, invade Ukraine and let's get it over with.

      Why do we need this? The time will come and Ukraine itself will come running into our arms.
      1. Decimalegio
        Decimalegio April 20 2021 19: 41
        +1
        So shut up and wait, but no more articles. I understand that waiting for a fight is better than a real fight, but these constant articles are unbearable.
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk April 20 2021 19: 46
          0
          Quote: Decimalegio
          So shut up and wait

          I don’t understand, but what’s so rude? request
          Quote: Decimalegio
          but no more articles.

          So I don’t write them. fool
          Besides, I am an ardent opponent of the war with Ukraine.
          1. Decimalegio
            Decimalegio April 20 2021 20: 58
            +1
            I'm sorry, but the translator sometimes simplifies what I write in Italian, I was not going to show rudeness. Hope you translated well.
            1. Krasnoyarsk
              Krasnoyarsk April 20 2021 21: 28
              0
              Quote: Decimalegio
              I'm sorry, but the translator sometimes simplifies what I write in Italian, I was not going to show rudeness. Hope you translated well.

              What makes you think that I speak Italian?
              1. Decimalegio
                Decimalegio April 20 2021 21: 32
                +1
                ....... I hope the translator translates well
                1. Krasnoyarsk
                  Krasnoyarsk April 20 2021 21: 36
                  0
                  Quote: Decimalegio
                  ....... I hope the translator translates well

                  As practice has shown - not very much
                  1. Decimalegio
                    Decimalegio April 20 2021 21: 40
                    +1
                    now we understand each other ............ at least I hope
                    1. Krasnoyarsk
                      Krasnoyarsk April 20 2021 21: 49
                      +1
                      Quote: Decimalegio
                      now we understand each other ............ at least I hope

                      Yes of course. hi
  • Basarev
    Basarev April 19 2021 21: 01
    0
    If the West and the United States personally are so important to the fight against China, then this should not quarrel with Russia. It could become a very valuable ally, especially considering that only with Russia's participation will the economic gap in favor of the West become significant.
  • Radikal
    Radikal April 19 2021 21: 08
    +1
    Quote: rocket757
    We have a lot of problems and all of them need to be solved ...

    What do you think, after the end of the Second World War, the USSR had fewer or more problems than the Russian Federation? At least the same first satellite in the world, after how many years was it launched and the country restored? lol
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed April 19 2021 22: 46
    0
    people and resources have what ishe needs ?????? a wish !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
  • Krasnoyarsk
    Krasnoyarsk April 20 2021 19: 33
    0
    [/ quote] If Russia now conquered Ukraine, Poland would be next in line [quote]

    Well, what's in their heads? And these are analysts? And they also want someone to pay attention to this "analytics"? Rzhunimagu.
  • Cuba
    Cuba April 21 2021 06: 23
    0
    God forbid us to raise Ukraine at the expense of the Russian people !!!
  • Tramp
    Tramp 18 May 2021 15: 10
    0
    Well, if we can’t, then we need to join Ukraine.