Soviet tanks of the pre-war period and the Great Patriotic War: three-turret T-28

When talking about Soviet tanks during the Great Patriotic War, the T-34 is most often considered. Today it is perceived as one of the main symbols of victory. T-34s stand on pedestals in various cities of our country. And in some countries, these tanks are still used at all.

But not the T-34 alone.

In 1933, the Soviet industry launched the production of medium three-turret T-28 tanks. This production continued until the beginning of the war. At the same time, during the Second World War, the "28th" tanks were actively used on various fronts. That is why the tank is referred to both the pre-war period and the period of the Second World War.

The 25-ton combat vehicle was driven by a 450-horsepower engine. Thus, the specific power of the T-28 was about 18 hp. per ton. This allowed the tank to reach speeds of over 40 km / h on the highway.

The three turrets of the tank made it possible to fire both in one and in different directions, from the available weapons.

The main gun of the T-28 is the 76-mm KT-28 tank gun designed by I. Makhanov. In total, the Soviet industry produced more than 12 of these tank guns, which had a rate of fire of up to 700 rounds per minute.

About the characteristics that distinguished the T-28 tank, its combat use is described in the story on the Starina YouTube channel:

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[SaLaR]

Fiery raid T-28 across Minsk ...

[alex neym_2]

I watched a video on this episode: I was delighted that the Germans did not remove him from the street - a mechanic, a participant in the liberation of Minsk found him that way

[dik]

Uh-huh. Only here the tank is no longer on the aerial survey of Minsk in the spring of 1944. This is not to mention that there was only one tank there and it was not a T-28.

But the tank was not removed for a very long time, the T-34 stood there for about 2 years.

[Vovk]

Uuuuu, wait begins !!!

Fiery raid T-28 across Minsk ...

And also there was a similar raid on the T-34 in the same Minsk!

A damaged T-34 trying to break through Minsk, already occupied by the Germans. Summer 1941

The same tank, the car was adapted by the Germans for a road sign

[SaLaR]

I read a book about the fiery T-28 as a child ... I was struck by the courage of the crew ..

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2015 Military Review.

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[Sling cutter]

Quote: SaLaR

I read a book about the fiery T-28 as a child ... I was struck by the courage of the crew ..

There was another one like this
T-35 is a five-turret tank of the Red Army.

here he is

But there is also here, on the most expensive medal for a soldier!

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[svp67]

Quote: Stroporez

There was another one like this

But at the headquarters of the Central Military District of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation there is such a bas-relief ... as you want, understand it.

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Quote: svp67

But at the headquarters of the Central Military District of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation there is such a bas-relief ... as you want, understand it.

Mdyaya, an interesting plot.

[dik]

That's why it happened. Fictions are clearly imprinted in memory, and real heroes are forgotten

The raid actually took place, but on a T-34 tank. And we will never know the names of the heroes

At about the same time, two T-34 tanks and one KV-1 made a similar raid in the city of Slonim. The KV-1 broke down on the outskirts, and its crew managed to escape, and both T-34s were hit in the city, the crews died, as did the unknown heroes of the Minsk T-34. But we will remember the storyteller Malko, who contrived to roll a memoir on this subject.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: dik

The raid actually took place, but on a T-34 tank. And we will never know the names of the heroes

In general, can you imagine the Heroic raids of Soviet tankers in the first year of the war? Where is every counterattack, every resistance, every frontal blow, and even more so platoon raids or single tanks somewhere deep into the advancing enemy troops, with the rest of the fuel, just get there and with a limit of 5-10 rounds per crew? These are, initially, fallen Heroes! Some burned and went head-on at once, others fired back to the last, and still others blew up cars due to the lack of ammunition and fuel.
In general, everything that moved and fired was thrown into battle.

[dik]

I didn't quite understand what you wanted to say. How strange you imagine the war: raids with single tanks behind the lines of the advancing enemy. Difficult to comment

[Sling cutter]

Quote: dik

How strange you imagine the war: raids with single tanks behind the lines of the advancing enemy.

And for this you read the reports of the staff officers and notice where they record the resistance of such Soviet groups and units, Podgornov V.V.
TANK RIDE INTO Enemy Rear

On July 14, 1941, I was urgently summoned to the commander of my tank battalion, Major Szeged.

The entire material part of the 5th tank regiment, which retained its ammunition, left over from continuous battles with the Nazis from the city of Ostrov to the area of ​​Saltsy, was consolidated into one tank company. The composition of this combined group was of different caliber: three KB tanks, one T-28 tank, four BT tanks and one tank that miraculously survived, the T-26.

The command of such a consolidated group was entrusted to me. Our reconnaissance established a large concentration of enemy troops and rear services in the area of ​​the town of Porokhov. Large convoys of vehicles moved from the town of Po-rokhov to the area of ​​the town of Saltsy, where the German tank division "Viking" was concentrated.

At this time, stubborn deterrent battles were fought by our units west of the city of Saltsy in the area of ​​two villages on the Shelon River.

An order was received to break through to the opposite side of the Shelon River, go to the Porokhovskoye Highway and disrupt the approach of the enemy's rear.

From July 14 to July 15, our rifle units, together with the sappers, recaptured the bridge over the Shelon River from the Germans and established themselves on a small bridgehead on the opposite bank of the Shelon River, which they had to hold firmly until the tanks returned from the raid. On the evening of June 14, we agreed with the major, the commander of a rifle regiment and Art. lieutenant, commander of a sapper company about the time of passage of our tanks and the signal of interaction.

At 2 hours 30 minutes on July 15, 1941, we reached their initial positions. The task was given to the tank crews - once again they clarified the situation, the line of defense of their troops and the enemy's firing points, and an order was given to move. The commander of the 5th tank regiment, Major Lenyuchev and Major Szegeda, wishing us success, said goodbye to us and stayed at the command post of the commander of the rifle regiment. With them I had to keep in direct contact and inform about the course of the battles and the results of the raid.

At 3 hours 15 minutes we went on the attack. We went across the bridge to the opposite bank of the Shelon River and met with stubborn resistance from the Germans, who were entrenched on the opposite bank, who opened artillery, mortar and machine-gun fire at us.

Covering myself with rugged terrain, trees and bushes, placing light tanks in cover, I ordered to support fire from the spot and accompany the attacks of heavy tanks, moving from cover to cover, moving from cover to cover. Three KB tanks and one T-28 tank rushed into the attack to suppress the firing points and, first of all, anti-tank guns.

There were at least 2 anti-tank guns against each KB tank. A fierce battle broke out. The Germans, like an angry beast, fired at the anti-tank guns until the tank approached closely. Anti-tank guns were positioned in pairs. On the radio, an order was given to each heavy tank on an independent combat course to accelerate the attack to suppress, first of all, anti-tank firing points. With my tank, increasing the speed and firing on the move, I entered into single combat with two anti-tank guns on the right flank. These guns fired continuous direct fire at my tank and did not stop until they approached them at a distance of 20-25 meters. There was a deafening rumble in the tank from thermite shells hitting the armor - blanks, in the place of impact of which from the armor inside the tank, clouds of armor scale sparks flared up. But they could not penetrate the formidable armor of the KB tank. True, they jammed the tower for me with a blank, and it could not rotate.

But, running into them with the tracks of a tank, they suppressed these two guns in turn.

Having defeated 7 anti-tank guns and jointly suppressed the mortar and machine-gun points of the Nazis by the whole group of tanks, the entire tank group broke through and then went to the edge of the forest to the Porokhovskoye highway, placing the tanks in cover. It was necessary to clarify the combat effectiveness of tanks, damage, the presence of ammunition and fuel in the vehicles. The most joyful thing was that although the heavy tanks took over all the fire, but, according to the reports of Lieutenant Kubarev, Lieutenant Samarsky and Jr. Lieutenant Ivanovsky, who commanded heavy tanks and attached to each of them in support of light tanks, did not appear to be seriously damaged. Having eliminated minor, so-called malfunctions, all the vehicles [turned out to be] capable of performing further combat missions.

Security and surveillance of the highway was posted. Immediately, the tanks began to eliminate the damage, replace the damaged machine-gun barrels and optical devices from the spare parts. On my tank, the crew wedged the turret, swinging and knocking out a steel blank that had welded into the armor of the tank's hull and turret with a sledgehammer.

Suddenly, in the direction of the patrol along the highway, we heard two shots. I immediately sent two people with assault rifles to the rescue (since in each tank the crew was armed with an assault rifle to defend the crew during the recovery or evacuation of the tank and for the tank guard service).

It turned out that the sentinel station, who had lain down by the side of the road. Sergeant Shaposhnikov killed a motorcyclist driving on the highway. The motorcycle, dumped into the ditch, turned out to be serviceable, BMW brand without a sidecar, and in the motorcycle's bag there was only Russian vodka. So we got hold of the first trophy in this raid - a German motorcycle. As a result of the breakthrough to the highway, 7 pieces of anti-tank guns, 2 mortar batteries and 6 pieces of machine-gun bunker points were destroyed. We did not take into account the losses of enemy manpower. But we still could not rejoice at this, since we had a big and main task ahead of us ... "

[yehat2]

in those days, there were few experienced tankers and often newcomers planned the battle as if it were deciding the whole war, so the tanks often simply disappeared after the breakthrough.
People did not understand how important it is not only to have a fight, but also to be ready to continue tomorrow.

[dik]

Nobody here bothers that the T-34 in the photo is in the SAME PLACE where, according to legend, the T-28 was allegedly shot down?

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Quote: dik

Nobody here bothers that the T-34 in the photo is in the SAME PLACE where, according to legend, the T-28 was allegedly shot down?

And here everything is simply impossible. A tank with a burned-out crew is brought to our plant from the front line! The crew is buried near the checkpoints of the plant, and the tank is repaired and sent to the front! What is not clear or do you have questions?
this is what we have now

The plant killed by Putinism is the killed era. The tank stood on a pedestal, like a monument to the fallen tankers. And it was from there that we were pioneers, saying "Always ready", after the line to the pioneer camp, first by buses, then by train, and loading suitcases into the backs and walking on foot with songs to the camp! )) Great times! But it was in this camp that we found another real tank in the swamp!

but this, approximately much later, was put on a pedestal

Then they put 34, an old 41st year, boiled-overcooked, then with another turret, then they spat, put 34-85, but the natives said that we, they say, did not repair this tank and went into battle with the remaining weapons of the tankers ... And I can't know who melted those rarities. I know for sure that although the Plant was destroyed to the ground by Putinism, the local young people still come to lay flowers.

[dik]

What does your plant have to do with it?

I mean that there are several hundred photos of the wrecked T-34, and there is not a single photo of the T-28, which allegedly stood the entire occupation IN THE SAME PLACE.

[dik]

Is it just like that with the crew and they bring it? And it is imperative to bury near the entrance?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: dik

Is it just like that with the crew and they bring it? And it is imperative to bury near the entrance?

The fighting went 5-7 km from the plant and all the damaged tanks that could be pulled from the front, incl. trophy, immediately sent to the plant. Here is one tank and dragged with the dead crew, so the workers and buried the tankers next to the checkpoints. On the territory of the plant itself, there was also a monument with a real burial.

[lwxx]

Crisis of the genre? Https: //topwar.ru/97607-3-iyulya-1941-goda-minsk-odin-tank-t-28-protiv-fashistov.html

[Vovk]

The saddest thing is that now there are only 5 T-28s left, 3 in the Museums near Finland, 2 in Russia - one in the museum, the second on the move ("Rearguard" restoration workshop), but assembled from different T-28 ...

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Several photographs from the Museum of Military Glory of the Urals (Verkhnyaya Pyshma).

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Kote pane Kohanka

Several photographs from the Museum of Military Glory of the Urals (Verkhnyaya Pyshma).

Nifigase, are they really there? And on the move?
A real RESPECT that we have saved !!!

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: Stroporez

Nifigase, are they really there? And on the move?
A real RESPECT that we have saved !!!

Probably it would be more accurate not to save it, but to create it anew. When restoring "twenty-eighth" in the course went parts from two cars found in the swamps.
"Thirty-fifth" has only two original towers out of five. And all this from swamps, river beds and pedestals, which were bought as unnecessary as scrap metal.
So among the exhibits there are those that were bought for a "box of cognac" and for whitewashed "money", but the bulk was restored by the golden hands of the factory workers !!!
Regards, Vlad!

[Timofey Astakhov]

five, three, two and 5, 3, 2. Without "th" and so on. Write correctly

[ermak124.0]

It has long been necessary to make a feature film about the Minsk raid on the T-28. But only without the liberal gag.

[Sergey Sfiedu]

And with a patriotic gag. Posts above too lazy to read?

[ermak124.0]

I was interested in your opinion?

[alex neym_2]

Already filmed, albeit short.

[dik]

There was no T-28 raid in Minsk. This is Malko's invention. I assume that it is based on a real raid of the T-34 tank of unknown heroes. Perhaps he heard about him from someone, and decided to ascribe to himself, this explains some of the coincidences with the real story. Then no one knew that the Internet would appear and many secrets would become apparent.

The film, by the way, was filmed a long time ago, still in black and white. It is called "Black Birch". it is certainly not about the raid itself, but it starts with it. There, the Germans knock out the T-34 (its role is played by the T-34-85) in Minsk, but the main character still escapes and then in two episodes his story is told.

[Nikolaevich I]

On the basis of the T-28, a wheeled-tracked version of the T-29 was also developed ... Before the Second World War, the T-29 was going to be produced ... it was supposed to go into service with the Red Army ... alas, it did not "grow together"! (there is a version that the rejection of the T-29 is associated with the arrest, as an "enemy of the people", Zeitz, the head of the T-29 development ...)

[dik]

The refusal is due to the fact that the concept of a tracked-wheeled mover has exhausted itself.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: dik

The refusal is due to the fact that the concept of a tracked-wheeled mover has exhausted itself.

There is also a different opinion ... about: "has exhausted itself" ... Even in the 50-60s of the last century, "wheeled-tracked" armored vehicles were developed ... for example, projects 911 and 19 ... As for the T-29, experts noted the complexity of operation and the lack of reliability of the T-29 wheeled-caterpillar propulsion device, but also noted the high speed. with which the T-29 could move on the roads and the prospects for increasing the range, which was not unimportant for the military of the Red Army ... We must also take into account the fact that then the tracks had an insufficient resource (service life) ... There was no technical conclusion that work on the T-29 is stopped due to the fact that the wheeled-tracked propulsion unit has exhausted itself ...

[dik]

There can be any opinion, but the complete absence of wheeled-tracked tanks after BT in all countries of the world speaks for itself.

Actually, the very appearance of the wheeled-tracked concept is due mainly to the problem of operational mobility due to the unreliability of the tracked belts. After its decision, the question disappeared by itself.

And a special "technical conclusion" is not needed. After the appearance of the T-34, the military did not need a wheel drive. All the same, he has much more disadvantages than advantages.

[Nikolaevich I]

The main "thesis" of my commentary was: the T-28 existed not only in tracked, but also in wheeled-tracked versions ... (T-29)! And that's it! But there was no task to "organize" a dispute on the topic: which is worse, which is better ... and why, after all, the T-29 did not go into production! For this it was necessary to "organize" the theme; but there was no time ... if there was, then it was lost ...

[Vladimir]

4/5 of all surviving T-28s remained as trophies in Finland. A good help for the almost tankless amusing army of our neighbors.

[ermak124.0]

Yeahhh? Really?

[Timofey Astakhov]

and what is wrong with you, forgive me, if the initially declared goals of this operation were not even close to being fulfilled?