Multipurpose fighter Su-30SM crashed in Kazakhstan

The Kazakh Air Force has lost the Su-30SM multipurpose fighter. According to the press service of the Kazakh military department, the plane crashed in the Karaganda region.

According to information received from the Kazakh military, the incident occurred during a training flight. The crash occurred during the approach of a fighter to land at the airfield of the aviation training center in the city of Balkhash, Karaganda region.

The crew managed to eject, both pilots are alive, nothing threatens their lives. Currently, they are under the supervision of doctors.

The reasons for the crash have not yet been established, a special commission has been created to investigate the crash site.

The multipurpose Su-30SM have been in service with the Kazakh Air Force since 2015. Earlier it was reported that the Ministry of Defense of Kazakhstan plans to purchase a total of 36 Su-30SM aircraft.

Su-30SM is a Russian-made multipurpose fighter. The aircraft belongs to the 4 ++ generation. The main task is to gain air supremacy. Able to perform assigned tasks regardless of weather conditions and time of day. In addition to air targets, it can effectively engage ground targets, as well as conduct reconnaissance and transmit data on intended targets to other aircraft of the group.

Comments

[OgnennyiKotik]

The crew managed to eject, both pilots are alive, nothing threatens their lives. Currently, they are under the supervision of doctors.

This is the main thing. The fighter is a pity, of course, but the plane doesn't crash unless it's flying.

[NIKN]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

but the plane doesn't crash unless it's flying.

This is true. I think all the information has been preserved about the technique (SOC) will understand the reasons.

[Emil Azeri]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

The crew managed to eject, both pilots are alive, nothing threatens their lives. Currently, they are under the supervision of doctors.

This is the main thing. The fighter is a pity, of course, but the plane doesn't crash unless it's flying.

It is true that the main thing was left alive. I will not say about an accident, because any plane can crash, but simply about the choice of Kazakhstan.
I'm wondering if there is such a thing that a CSTO member is obliged to buy fighters only in Russia? Judging by the CM version, it is very similar to this.
Otherwise, they would buy from developed countries, such as the United States or Europe, and the aircraft there are much more technologically advanced, and weapons for them, not to mention additional on-board systems, etc., and there are no restrictions on the sale of such weapons to Kazakhstan. Secondly, the country in the CIS is the second in terms of "pumping" oil, that is, the state has a lot of money.
On the downside, of course, do not care, the truth has always been disliked here. But with the SU-30, the Kazakhs were very wrong, with their money. Or they are simply afraid of Russia to "escalate" in order to take fighters from someone else. Kmk second option is closer to the truth, or a combination of both reasons.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Su-30SM is an excellent fighter, one of the best in its class. Ideal for Kazakhstan. Advantages of the Soviet school of aircraft construction + Western (mainly French) avionics. CSTO members can buy weapons from anyone. What they are doing.
Kazakhstan buys weapons and equipment very carefully.

[Emil Azeri]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Kazakhstan buys weapons and equipment very carefully.

Are you seriously?)
Ships (RTOs) Russian - analogues in European countries are more technologically advanced and preferable, T-72 B3 tanks, aircraft, and much more. I understand when there are embargoes and restrictions from the west, but here everything is open to them, even the entire Chinese market.
Only a strike UAV was bought from China, a WingLong of some kind, and that was only because then Russia did not have Orion or any other strike UAV.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Absolutely. Weapons and equipment are not bought due to the fact that they are "super duper". The purchase is made for reasons of economic, political, theater of operations, military threats, military doctrine, etc.
Kazakhstan buy weapons and equipment from Russia, China, Turkey, South Africa, USA, Italy, etc.

[Emil Azeri]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Weapons and equipment are not bought due to the fact that they are super

OK, thanks.
And a plus for you.

[Kasym]

Emil Azeri, the United States even "imposed" its equipment and weapons on us, as in its time on Tashkent ... But "Your weapons are too expensive for us." The National Academy of Sciences also announced a strategy on this issue. "In the far abroad, only what is not produced in the CIS." For example. S-295, UAV, etc.
And one more important point. We buy at domestic Russian prices. The first Su-30SM, for example, we got less than 30 million per unit. Therefore, whatever the fancy F-16, it is just a "whipping boy" for 3 Su-30SM. And this is the minimum. So with weapons, personnel training and equipment, one F-16 will cost. Or, for example, the repair of T-72, BTR-80, BMP, which takes place at our plant (we have a lot of armored vehicles from Soviet times) - and how much will one Abrams or Leopard cost with all other costs ?!
There is one more point that matters. What will happen to our repair factories if we switch to an alternative? ... At the end of last year, the first Mi-405 of its own assembly took off from the Almaty 17 plant ... On Granite, the S-300 is being repaired in agreement with Almas-Antey ...
Whatever one may say, it is beneficial for us to be in the CSTO.
Although it must be admitted, a lot is becoming obsolete ... 24 - 1 = 23 Su-30SM at the moment. It's good that the pilots are alive.

[Kasym]

The plane is new. At the end of last year, the deployment of Su-30SM began at this airfield. Let's wait for the conclusion of the commission.

[Aleksandr1971]

Quote: Emil Azeri

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Kazakhstan buys weapons and equipment very carefully.

Are you seriously?)
Ships (RTOs) Russian - analogues in European countries are more technologically advanced and preferable, T-72 B3 tanks, aircraft, and much more. I understand when there are embargoes and restrictions from the west, but here everything is open to them, even the entire Chinese market.
Only a strike UAV was bought from China, a WingLong of some kind, and that was only because then Russia did not have Orion or any other strike UAV.

Kazakhstan buys weapons from Russia at domestic Russian prices as a member of the CSTO. In other words, aircraft from Russia are much cheaper for Kazakhstan than their counterparts from the West. At the same time, Russia has almost no profit from sales. In addition, the pilots of Kazakhstan do not need to retrain to Western technology.

Azerbaijan buys weapons from Russia at prices similar to those sold elsewhere to India, Algeria or China.

Well, maybe Turkey gives Azerbaijan some discounts on arms sales for ethnic kinship?

[loki565]

Apart from the old F16s, they have no chance of anything, plus they need to rebuild the entire infrastructure and weapons, so the Su30SM is the best option for them. But your deflection is still counted)))

[Emil Azeri]

Quote: loki565

Except for the old F16, nothing shines for them

F16, F21, F15 ..
Yes, the F16 in the latest Block72 / F21 modifications, with a well-trained pilot, can handle any SU-30.

[El Chuvachino]

Kindergarten...

[Charik]

vrotberushka- in the opupoproshayka

[agoran]

"wrong, with theirs then money. "
Maybe with her?
Do you have an aviation education? Such a question can only be asked by a dunce, far from aviation.

[Piramidon]

Quote: agoran

Maybe with her?

With ichinn.

[BABAY22]

Quote: Emil Azeri

would buy from developed countries

So they bought it from a developed country - from the Russian Federation. Or could generation 4 ++ fighters be produced by underdeveloped countries?
Not...
The underdeveloped and underdeveloped can only offer persimmon for export, but Bayraktar can be bought from the Turks at a cheap price ...

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Emil Azeri

the truth has always been disliked here.

That’s who would say it. And yes, presenting the gallop as truth is one of the mandatory exercises for your party. However, this is the case - a piece of bread is not so easy to get.

[figwam]

Quote: Emil Azeri

Otherwise, would have bought from developed countries

The underdeveloped buy there.

[TerraSandera]

Your "truth" - hatred of Russia, why should you love it here?) A good fighter, in experienced even hands. Judging by the fact that the educational training, probably the human factor, and there the competent will figure it out

[iouris]

The main thing is that the reasons (versions) of the accident were not reported.

[2hp2]

The reasons for the day of the accident are reported only by journalists or other "specially informed" specialists))

[Thrifty]

Well, the main thing is that the crew is alive! I hope they got off with a fright, and a maximum of light scratches!

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Thrifty

I hope they got off with a fright, and a maximum of light scratches!

Soviet ejection seats are working reliably!

[Emil Azeri]

Quote: Stroporez

Soviet ejection seats are working reliably!

How are the ejection seats TU-22?
The strategist has that!))

[agoran]

Well, if you are so interested, you can read the opinion of the pilots flying on the TU-22, and not the boobies, check out: https://www.forumavia.ru/t/202414/1/

[Piramidon]

Quote: agoran

Well if you're so curious

He is not interested in anything. Can't you see that his pro-Turkish Russophobia is already coming out of his ears, not to mention other holes.

[WHAT IS]

both pilots are alive, nothing threatens their lives.

This is the main thing; the cause of the accident will be dealt with.

[Incvizitor]

The pilots are alive and well.

[Prisoner]

The lads are alive, it's already good. The device is certainly a pity, but this is a profitable business.

[kit88]

A man "collapsed" from an oak tree.
And the plane crashed.

[agoran]

Well, if you approach it formally, then the destruction of the s-that without the death of the crew, then this is an accident.
If the death of one of the crew members, then this is a disaster.
There is still a graduation by the hour, even if all the crew members were rescued, but for some reason one did not survive for 24 hours, it is considered a disaster.

[kit88]

Quote: agoran

did not survive within 24 hours,

30 days - a disaster

[bald]

But what about THAT, what is the relation to it?

[agoran]

Aviation equipment does not fail for one reason, as a rule.
Especially the military, there is duplication through several channels.
There is no MOT on s-takh, there is routine maintenance, stop comparing s-t with cars, this is at least stupid.

[Piramidon]

Quote: bald

the nodes do not simply fail.

And which node failed? The commission has not yet reached the site, and you already know the cause of the accident?

[Megavolt]

Do not throw your slippers - but KMK - flupenes are the best budget option)

[Aleksandr1971]

Quote: Emil Azeri

Quote: loki565

Except for the old F16, nothing shines for them

F16, F21, F15 ..
Yes, the F16 in the latest Block72 / F21 modifications, with a well-trained pilot, can handle any SU-30.

The prices for the Su-30 and F16, F15 are very different.
In addition, the United States itself in training battles recognized the superiority of Russian aircraft with these aircraft.

[Aleksandr1971]

Quote: Megavolt

Do not throw your slippers - but KMK - flupenes are the best budget option)

You are not right.
Gripenes will be sold by Sweden at full price. And Russia sells Su-30 to Kazakhstan at the domestic Russian price, i.e. almost no profit.

[Aleksandr1971]

Quote: Emil Azeri

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Weapons and equipment are not bought due to the fact that they are super

OK, thanks.
And a plus for you.

Your country, besides fuel, can only sell persimmons.
No offense.