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"In conditions close to combat": the Ministry of Defense worked out the suppression of enemy communications at a long distance

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"In conditions close to combat": the Ministry of Defense worked out the suppression of enemy communications at a long distance

The Russian Ministry of Defense conducted exercises on the use of long-range electronic warfare systems.


As reported "News" with reference to the military department, the Baltic and Northern fleets of the Russian Federation took part in the testing.

Exercises on the use of long-range electronic suppression systems were conducted back in March 2021, but only now it became known about them. Electronic warfare systems from the Baltic and Northern fleets took part in testing, which ones, the Ministry of Defense, did not disclose.

As the newspaper writes, during the exercises, the electronic warfare systems of the fleets alternately found the stations of the imaginary enemy and suppressed them, despite the range of several thousand kilometers. The "enemy", in turn, inflicted a retaliatory electronic strike.

It is emphasized that the calculations of the electronic warfare stations worked in conditions close to combat. The exercises were recognized as successful, the stations confirmed the inherent characteristics and the ability to jam long-range communications.

For our part, we note that in the exercises, with a high probability, the Murmansk-BN electronic warfare (EW) complexes were used, capable of suppressing communication and control channels at a distance of up to 5 thousand kilometers. This complex was previously deployed in the Kaliningrad and Murmansk regions.

"Murmansk-BN" is an automated radio interference complex for communication lines in the short-wave (HF) range, capable of suppressing radio communications at a distance of 3 to 5 thousand kilometers, and with good signal transmission - up to 8 thousand kilometers. The equipment automatically collects data on signal emitters in the HF range, classifies and determines what and what power of interference can suppress them. In addition to communications, the complex also disrupts the operation of ships' weapons systems.
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  1. xorek
    xorek April 12 2021 11: 17
    +21
    Electronic warfare will save Russia if something happens! I think there are many surprises that are not customary to talk about ..
    Well done designer, as it immediately becomes calmer reading such articles
    1. Aleks tv
      Aleks tv April 12 2021 13: 34
      0
      Quote: xorek
      Electronic warfare will save Russia if something happens! I think there are many surprises that are not customary to talk about ..
      Well done designer, as it immediately becomes calmer reading such articles


      Vague doubts torment me ...
      recourse
      So many reincarnations ...
      The Phoenix bird is just crying.
      yes
      And let's We will award Mehan the title of Honored Marshal of GlavpUR VO.
      So what?
      You would have to fight everything and wave a saber on a tank, and who will issue the Battle Leaflet at this time?
      How will the public know about your dashing exploits?
      This is it.
      This is how much energy a person has! For so many years of fruitful activity at VO ... it was possible to arrange the entire Trans-Sib with visual agitation !!!
      good
      I would not refuse such a political worker.
      What about? I was always lucky to be lazy, but here you can be calm like a boa constrictor even for a check by PPR, and the fighters will not be bored.
      I'm not kidding, not much.
      This is a kind of TALENT one must have and a VOICE.
      .............
      Would you give up such a political officer? Remember your loafers,))
      Honestly?

      ME NOT.
      wink
      1. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn April 12 2021 17: 44
        +3
        Alex, welcome! hi
        Quote: Aleks tv
        Vague doubts torment me ...

        So many reincarnations ...
        The Phoenix bird is just crying.

        Do not "shoot" Vital. laughing He has not risen above the "underground" lately ... Even hehe, he stopped writing, they still calculate. wink laughing
        Quote: Aleks tv
        Would you give up such a political officer?

        Fair? Yes. I would refuse. He would, "zadolbal" and me, and everyone else in the unit. stop
        Vitaly sometimes carries such heresy that ... And the political officer (good) is a kind of psychologist and will not work with slogans alone.
        1. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv April 12 2021 18: 22
          +5
          ... Do not "shoot" Vital.

          laughing

          Hello, Stas!
          hi
          ... Fair? Yes. I would refuse. He would, "zadolbal" and me, and everyone else in the unit. stop
          Vitaly sometimes carries such heresy that ... And the political officer (good) is a kind of psychologist and will not work with slogans alone.

          Well, the PERFECT political worker is a fairy tale ...
          Ага.
          But what a visual campaign would be!
          And the speeches from the podium!
          fellow
          At first, I confess, I wanted to postebatsya, and then I looked at his daily work in a personal ... already swollen - this is VOLUME, this is energy !!!
          And loyalty to VO, after all.
          Plows like a bulldozer.
          wassat
          ............
          I remembered the real political officer:
          He was driving in a tank regiment - Pal Palych, p-k.
          I went to the hospital. It turned out from the individual in chorus and lay in the general officers' ward, like he was bored.
          He invigorated everyone from the very morning - humor, anecdotes, stories. Although he was bent over.
          He took over the leadership of the evening tea from the glasses, although he himself did not drink with an ulcer)).
          My thigh was torn apart, he climbed on the wall when bandaging - he taught me ... Rubik's Cube taught how to collect ...
          He stuck like a bath leaf, forced the formulas to memorize - distracted.
          Behind his eyes they called him "Commissar" ...
          ......
          This is what I understand MAN in his place.
          There were few of these, grains ... in the universe.
          1. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov April 12 2021 20: 18
            +2
            "... the Baltic and Northern fleets of the Russian Federation took part."
            What was experienced in the north can be applied in the south ... lol
            1. aszzz888
              aszzz888 April 13 2021 02: 01
              +4

              Vladimir Mashkov (Vladimir Mashkov)
              Yesterday, 20: 18
              NEW

              +1
              "... the Baltic and Northern fleets of the Russian Federation took part."
              What we experienced in the north can be applied in the south ... lol
              good With even better results! wink
    2. sanches-nk
      sanches-nk April 12 2021 18: 42
      +5
      Even during the presidency of Dmitry Medvedev, when you began to fuss over the deployment of US missile defense facilities in Europe, I saw an interview on TV with one of the designers of electronic warfare and electronic warfare systems. So there was such an old uncle, he very lucidly explained that in Russia there are highly effective means of suppressing US missile defense radars, incl. Aegis. He said that there are several of them and described one of them. I don't remember literally, but the essence is the following - the basis of their types of radars, that AFAR, as it were, cuts out interference by turning off its radar cells, by the same means of electronic warfare, thousands of such sources are created, leading to the fact that the radar turns itself off, simply by oversaturation false interference. In general, what I remembered and how I could explain. It's a pity I could not find this video anywhere on the network.
      PS At the same time, he said that in order to repay it, there is no need for huge capacities.
    3. GTYCBJYTH2021
      GTYCBJYTH2021 April 13 2021 13: 45
      -1
      Quote: xorek
      Electronic warfare will save Russia if something happens! I think there are many surprises that are not customary to talk about ..
      Well done designer, as it immediately becomes calmer reading such articles

      No, not electronic warfare will save Russia, but a soldier from Siberia ...... As always ... One surrendered Moscow ... Another let Moscow down for surrender ....... Regiments from Siberia - divisions went ... This will no longer be-Siberia itself in PEOPLE-people NEEDS ....... winked
  2. Victor_B
    Victor_B April 12 2021 11: 21
    +10
    Electronic warfare and air defense are our trump cards!
    1. xorek
      xorek April 12 2021 11: 49
      +3
      Quote: Victor_B
      Electronic warfare and air defense are our trump cards!

      This is definitely Petrovich! We (our ancestors) ran over from Messers in 41-42 years. It was scary. Now the West wants to soak us with its UAV drones, well, let the swarm arrive ..
      1. Intruder
        Intruder April 12 2021 12: 42
        +1
        Now the West wants to soak us with its UAV drones, well, let the swarm arrive ..
        Hmm, everything is just interesting and wonderful, except for one small but main physical circumstance, namely on the part of the drones and their flight and control telemetry channels, satellite channels depending on the Links version (C / Ku) or terrestrial in UHF bands, like is this not a HF spectrum !? And for a long time ... laughing wink
        1. Pavel73
          Pavel73 April 12 2021 13: 03
          +7
          Similarly, electronic warfare is not just HF.
          1. antivirus
            antivirus April 12 2021 13: 23
            +1
            even worse - if the Britons are worried about their submarine cables - why should they be so worried.
            everything is not shoved into one wave and in different parts of the world (I hope) different tech and org solutions at one right moment in time will help us not to run away from new messengers. and it is better that they do not take off.
            the brains of F35 did not "wake up" and that's it
  3. Cananecat
    Cananecat April 12 2021 11: 22
    +14
    capable of suppressing radio communications at a distance of 3 to 5 thousand kilometers

    During the period of the teachings, did any of the neighbors get sick?
    And then they would have jammed in the ATO once from the Baltic out of hooligan motives zhovto-blakitnyh through a couple of countries)))
    (Shantropa woke up with cons lol )
    1. neri73-r
      neri73-r April 12 2021 11: 43
      +7
      Quote: Canecat
      capable of suppressing radio communications at a distance of 3 to 5 thousand kilometers

      During the period of the teachings, did any of the neighbors get sick?
      And then they would have jammed in the ATO once from the Baltic out of hooligan motives zhovto-blakitnyh through a couple of countries)))
      (Shantropa woke up with cons lol )

      The Ukrainians have nothing to jam, there is a wired connection ... laughing wassat
      1. Piramidon
        Piramidon April 12 2021 11: 52
        +13
        Quote: neri73-r
        The Ukrainians have nothing to jam, there is a wired connection ...

        And how do they contact by mobile phones - "Dobriden Mamo. Viishli fat"?
        1. Andrei Nikolaevich
          Andrei Nikolaevich April 12 2021 15: 09
          +1
          Good afternoon and yaksYya? And yakmamo?)
      2. Brturin
        Brturin April 12 2021 12: 05
        +1
        Quote: neri73-r
        Ukrainians have nothing to jam, there is a wired connection

        whatever, but it's better to cook ...
        Interesting news came from the Donetsk People's Republic (DPR). Its experts in electronic warfare (EW) claim that the Ukrainian security forces have created strong electronic interference in the Donbass for control channels and GPS sensors .... And these electronic warfare systems, presumably, are the same secret cargo that the US Air Force planes recently delivered to Ukraine ... Our experts do not exclude that this is the Crew Duke anti-electronic warfare system. This can be said to be an "old friend". Experts from the American publication Breaking Defense note that this new complex is still inferior to the Russian counterparts of mobile electronic warfare systems used in Syria.
        https://www.kp.ru/daily/27263.5/4395331/
      3. max702
        max702 April 12 2021 12: 10
        +2
        Quote: neri73-r
        The Ukrainians have nothing to jam, there is a wired connection ...

        They have more communication delegates, the pigeons have already been eaten, and the wires for the color are met.
    2. xorek
      xorek April 12 2021 11: 53
      +2
      Quote: Canecat
      capable of suppressing radio communications at a distance of 3 to 5 thousand kilometers

      During the period of the teachings, did any of the neighbors get sick?
      And then they would have jammed in the ATO once from the Baltic out of hooligan motives zhovto-blakitnyh through a couple of countries)))
      (Shantropa woke up with cons lol )

      They are silent about this, and Zelensky immediately started talking about the world, just like his curators .. Here we are waiting for the squadron floating in the World Cup .. We will also show the fry, I hope))) Or, on the contrary, there will be complete silence, after all, they will come to check!
      1. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre April 12 2021 13: 40
        +2
        .Here we are waiting for the squadron floating in the World Cup.
        Are you proposing to arrange a similar electronic warfare exercise in the Black Sea? So that, too, in a radius of 5000 km on the air to play pranks. This radius includes: the coast of the Bay of Bengal, almost half of Mongolia, the northern half of Africa, all of Arabia and half of the Arabian Sea, Europe completely, Iceland and a piece of Greenland. So there are a lot of objects for fooling around.
    3. boris epstein
      boris epstein April 13 2021 16: 43
      0
      Such an experiment is now being carried out on "kitties".
      "The Armed Forces of Ukraine in Donbass were under the" radio strike "of Russia, - media
      The positions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were subjected to a "radio blow" from the armed forces of the Russian Federation and were left without GPS.
      The Chinese media portal Sohu writes about this, claiming that now the Ukrainian army is not able to use its UAVs, radars, radar reconnaissance systems and other instruments for confrontation.
      The report says that a surge in activity to suppress signals was reported by the OSCE. And such messages inevitably fuel the opinion that the escalation of the conflict is not far off.
      Sohu experts note that by this method, Russia wants to return Kiev to the "path" of the implementation of the Minsk agreements. "
  4. Holuay T.O
    Holuay T.O April 12 2021 11: 25
    -26%
    We have always had problems with our communication and electronic warfare is not necessary
    1. vvvjak
      vvvjak April 12 2021 11: 38
      +15
      For solutions Your problems with communication, maybe you need to buy a new "cellular"?
      1. Holuay T.O
        Holuay T.O April 12 2021 12: 19
        -8
        Any cell phone listens to the NSA from the United States, and another 15-20 countries
        1. vvvjak
          vvvjak April 12 2021 12: 30
          +9
          Quote: Holuay T.O.
          Any cell phone listens to the NSA from the United States, and another 15-20 countries

          Does it bother you? To obtain a license for the provision of cellular services, one of the conditions is the preservation of records of all negotiations for 2 years. Here is a printout of these negotiations can be obtained by any "opera", at the request of the investigation. Once I myself read some negotiations in the framework of a criminal case, just like that, with obscenities and jargon, everything is spelled out. So you don't have to listen.
          1. Holuay T.O
            Holuay T.O April 12 2021 13: 15
            -6
            Believe me, it doesn't bother
            1. vvvjak
              vvvjak April 12 2021 13: 30
              +4
              Quote: Holuay T.O.
              Believe me, it doesn't bother

              Oh, well, straight from the heart relieved. EMNIP earlier you had a "saboteur" added to your "nickname" "Holuay", and so I think "got into" not my own business. But now I am calm.
          2. Holuay T.O
            Holuay T.O April 12 2021 18: 27
            -1
            I'm not talking about our garden, but about
            The US NSA and other intelligence services of the world ... they listen to everyone, for example, the relatives of Ministers, Governors, the Governors themselves, their mistresses, then they are blackmailed and recruited, for example, a few years ago Zhirik's campaign was listened to by the Turks when he brought Ojolan ... Zhirik himself spoke about it ... And you tell me about our operas from the Internal Affairs Directorate which, by the way, foreigners themselves listen to right at meetings ... And they recruit
            It is not necessary to listen to calls, the smartphone itself is in your pocket and is a microphone, for example ...
            Here it is necessary to observe not the chatterboxes in the kitchen, but to engage in prevention among secret carriers, the Governors know a lot and they are vulnerable to any intelligence, any Governor, for example, the BND will take over at once and will not choke, it’s painfully our Governors themselves and their families love to be treated in To carry Germany ... I will not say anything about the CIA and the more serious intelligence services of the world

            And what can we say about trips abroad of ranks? There atas
            Remember how Canaris was recruited? This is again as an example to you, the Gestapo was looking for enemies among the people and clicked through the whole beginning of the intelligence and counterintelligence of the army, that is, the Abwehr
    2. GTYCBJYTH2021
      GTYCBJYTH2021 April 13 2021 13: 49
      -1
      Quote: Holuay T.O.
      We have always had problems with our communication and electronic warfare is not necessary

      Greetings from the School of Weapons ..... good good good
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 April 12 2021 11: 29
    +5
    "In conditions close to combat": the Ministry of Defense worked out the suppression of enemy communications at a long distance
    This, of course, is an additional impact, but no less important than anything else.
    1. xorek
      xorek April 12 2021 11: 55
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      "In conditions close to combat": the Ministry of Defense worked out the suppression of enemy communications at a long distance
      This, of course, is an additional impact, but no less important than anything else.

      And everything else, Victor, also demonstrated to the enemies .. Immediately quieted down! hi
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 12 2021 12: 05
        +2
        What we have with what, they already knew that.
        This is what they were prepared to apply and clearly stated, they could not ignore this ...
        Its own skin is closer to the body and it is alone ... this is not a computer toy, reboot, self-preservation is not provided.
  6. Doccor18
    Doccor18 April 12 2021 11: 31
    +5
    Exercises on the use of long-range electronic suppression systems ... Electronic warfare systems from the Baltic and Northern fleets took part in testing ..

    Taking into account the rapid increase in the potential of CD and UAVs, electronic warfare systems are becoming one of the main strategic defense technologies.
    It is very encouraging that in this area Russia remains on the list of leaders.
  7. yfast
    yfast April 12 2021 11: 51
    -7
    https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Link_16
    Communication is carried out at ultra-high frequency decimeter waves.
    We will press HF, and they will have a connection on the UHF. Are we going to crush ourselves?
    1. kit88
      kit88 April 12 2021 12: 13
      +11
      In VHF, the range is limited by line of sight. And the range is not great.
      Communication is carried out both in VHF (MV, UHF) and in the HF range. For example, both VHF (up to 500 km) and HF (up to 1500 km) radio stations are installed on airplanes.
      And nobody canceled the ground-based HF early warning locators.
  8. opuonmed
    opuonmed April 12 2021 11: 52
    -6
    the usa has a 100% ace up his sleeve called a weapon in space!
  9. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 April 12 2021 11: 59
    +3
    an interesting message, it's a pity that the author has just bypassed the question of what potential adversaries have as anti-electronic warfare, or analogs of our systems?
  10. t-12
    t-12 April 12 2021 12: 11
    +1
    and suppressed them, despite the range of several thousand kilometers
    Some kind of fantasy. I cannot imagine how to suppress even a civilian radio at such a distance, not to mention secure military communications, especially satellite.
    1. ccsr
      ccsr April 12 2021 12: 43
      +2
      Quote: t-12
      Some kind of fantasy. I cannot imagine how to suppress even a civilian radio at such a distance, not to mention secure military communications, especially satellite.

      No fiction - back in the days of the USSR we jammed the most powerful broadcasting radio stations of the HF range "Voice of America", "Radio Liberty", "Radio Sweden" and even the Chinese, which broadcast to the Far East in Russian. So there was electronic warfare already then, even in the civilian sector. In general, electronic warfare units appeared in 1943, when four special forces radio divisions were created by order of Stalin.
      1. t-12
        t-12 April 12 2021 16: 05
        -1
        "Voice of America" ​​was jammed on Soviet territory. We hammered a weak distant signal with powerful nearby noises.

        But to drown out a Prague radio station so that it cannot be heard in Prague itself is a fabulous, incredible business.
        1. ccsr
          ccsr April 12 2021 18: 18
          0
          Quote: t-12
          The Voice of America was jammed on Soviet territory. We hammered a weak distant signal with powerful nearby noises.

          In fact, the HF radio waves used for suppression spread far beyond the borders of our country - this is their feature. By the way, "Voice of America" ​​broadcasted to the USSR from Europe.

          Quote: t-12
          But to drown out a Prague radio station so that it cannot be heard in Prague itself is a fabulous, incredible business.

          Nobody set such a task then. If such a goal had been set, then it would have been fulfilled.
  11. MrFox
    MrFox April 12 2021 12: 15
    -7
    We suppressed everything within a radius of 5000 km, and our own HF communication is working. Wonders...

    Yes, and you don't even need to look for a boat with a working electronic warfare: for a GOS rocket with a detector receiver, it will also go
    1. Andre___86
      Andre___86 April 12 2021 12: 32
      -1
      I also don't quite understand the principle. Is the suppression signal narrowly directed? Not? Then there should have been silence within a radius of 5000 km. And then the howl of partners or complaints from our population about communication problems. Strange ...
      1. Andre___86
        Andre___86 April 12 2021 12: 42
        0
        And what about M-Code technologies? Does the increase in electronic warfare power make it possible to bypass this technology or not?
        In 2012, at the exercises at the Ashuluk training ground, our aircraft was able to receive a GPS signal even without cunning technologies, despite the "dome" installed by the EW troops.
      2. LiSiCyn
        LiSiCyn April 12 2021 13: 34
        +2
        Quote: Andre___86
        or complaints from our population about communication problems.

        There were and are problems. This is me, as a resident of Kaliningrad, writing. There are zones where, even with a mobile communication tower, the connection is not stable, it floats. Moreover, this happens as a "constant zone", and sectoral, at certain intervals.
      3. MrFox
        MrFox April 12 2021 14: 17
        -2
        In order to receive a spatial signal in HF, an aperture measuring tens of meters is needed. So out of the realm of fantasy
        1. Bear
          Bear April 12 2021 19: 41
          +2
          Quite right. The antenna length must be a multiple of 1/4 of the wavelength. Look at the impressive dimensions of the AFU complex "Murmansk-BN" in the photo. This is not fiction at all.
      4. Bear
        Bear April 12 2021 20: 08
        +1
        Nothing strange. It all depends on the antenna device used, or rather on its radiation pattern. If you use a whip antenna, then the waves will spread evenly in all directions of the world, and the radiation pattern will be a toroid, a donut, that is. In the presence of a powerful transmitter, several tens of kilowatts, it will "crush everything in the neighborhood" at the given frequencies. And if you use directional ones, such as a traveling wave or a wave channel, you can achieve high directivity characteristics of the main lobe of the directivity pattern up to 30-20 degrees. And then wherever you direct, in that direction and will "press".
    2. MrFox
      MrFox April 12 2021 14: 20
      -2
      I will add: in HF at long ranges, propagation occurs due to reflection from the ionosphere. So it's not a fact that the beam will land where it should)

      And then the local political officers think that the signal rushes 5 thousand km ahead and sweeps everything in its path))
      1. Bear
        Bear April 12 2021 19: 38
        +3
        In order for the "beam to land where it is necessary", calculations are made of the multi-hop path of radio waves propagation in the HF range, which takes into account the characteristics of the antenna directional pattern, power characteristics, and the forecast of the state of the ionosphere for the next day. So nothing is impossible.
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  12. Maxxcc
    Maxxcc April 12 2021 12: 16
    0
    I wonder what they pressed so that the level of interference at the receiving point would exceed the signal level ..... at a distance of 5000 km?
    1. Bear
      Bear April 12 2021 19: 49
      +2
      I remember that at the school, they carried out laboratory work, calculated the path of the radio signal in the HF range using a narrow-beam antenna. So, with a radiated power of about 1 kW, they sent a signal around the ball and received it when it safely circled the Earth. So much for the ratio of power characteristics and distance.
      1. Vadim Ananyin
        Vadim Ananyin April 12 2021 22: 26
        -1
        Are you fond of radio amateurism?
        1. Bear
          Bear April 13 2021 08: 45
          +1
          The main specialty is a radio communications engineer.
      2. Vadim Ananyin
        Vadim Ananyin April 12 2021 22: 28
        0
        where did you serve?
        1. Bear
          Bear April 13 2021 08: 46
          +3
          Signal troops of central subordination.
          1. Vadim Ananyin
            Vadim Ananyin April 13 2021 10: 00
            0
            Here I am in the same place, only a soldier.
            In the "Circle" system
            84-86 yyy
  13. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 April 12 2021 12: 36
    +3
    Is it not possible through the earth's firmament 10000 km so that on that half of the Earth everyone will forget about Covid? smile
    1. Bear
      Bear April 12 2021 19: 53
      +3
      Maybe soon it will be possible. I don’t know how it is now, but in the 90s, work was actively carried out with the so-called "neutrino connection". As you know, there are no barriers for neutrinos. And they were "caught" in submarines. As far as I understand, the problem was with the radiation source and with the modulation, how to transfer the information.
    2. Roma 1977
      Roma 1977 April 13 2021 09: 20
      +1
      Can. But this will cause Yellowstone to detonate.
  14. Vadim Ananyin
    Vadim Ananyin April 12 2021 22: 25
    0
    the Defense Ministry did not disclose.
    And no need to talk too much, write, etc.
  15. Pavel57
    Pavel57 April 12 2021 23: 05
    0
    Around such stations should be strong air defense and missile defense.