"The first of twenty seven": Denmark has received the American F-35A fighter

Another European country has received an American fifth-generation fighter, the F-35A. The first fighter was handed over to the Danish Air Force.

Denmark received its first F-35 from 27 fighters ordered. The rollout and handover of the aircraft took place on April 7 at the Lockheed Martin facility in Fort Worth, Texas. Despite the official handover, the aircraft will remain in the United States and will operate at Luke Air Force Base in Arizona, where Danish pilots will be trained. Five more F-35As of the Danish Air Force will also go there.

In total, in the period until 2026, Denmark will receive 27 F-35A fighters, the first of which will arrive in the country no earlier than 2023. For the F-35, a special infrastructure is being created at the Skridstrup airbase, where they will be based. It is planned that the state of full combat readiness of the F-35 of the Danish Air Force will be reached in 2027.

Denmark is one of the countries involved in the development of the F-35 since 1997, Danish enterprises are involved in the production of components for the fighter. In 2017, the country's parliament approved the purchase of 27 F-35 fighters, although the United States tried to force Denmark to buy more aircraft.

In the Air Force, the new F-35s are to replace a fleet of 16 obsolete F-30 fighters, which will be decommissioned by 2024.

Comments

[Thrifty]

And how "Danish" is he in general, or is it just the pilot in the cockpit from the local flavor - at times when the Yankee plane is not being prevented?

[figwam]

In the Air Force, new F-35s should replace the fleet of outdated F-16 fighters

The Americans cannot replace, the rest even more so.

[mitroha]

Hedgehogs still climb the cactus

[Kaman]

Congratulations to the Danish Air Force on a nice new outfit

[sined]

Already 625 units have been produced, and of course the pace. The real heir of the 16th.

[mitroha]

Quote: Sined

Already 625 units have been produced, and of course the pace. The real heir of the 16th.

Of course, if you twist your arms, imposing a miracle plane, which has not yet been brought to mind

[sined]

Yes. In the same way as they twisted their arms with the F-16. Likewise, the 16th seemed to be a step back from the 15th. Likewise, the 16th was buried due to childhood ailments and comparisons with the third generation. And what is the bottom line?

[mitroha]

Your delight is understandable.

[sined]

What delight? On the production speed? Well, excuse me, not everywhere you can see such a pace of construction of the fifth generation.

[mitroha]

Quote: Sined

What delight? On the production speed? Well, excuse me, not everywhere you can see such a pace of construction of the fifth generation.

Don't be ridiculous ... The speed of production here does not depend on demand, but on consumption.

[sined]

This is already a question of political marketing, which is not particularly interesting to me. Since this does not exclude the fact that 625 units have already been built and the fact that there is no competitor on the market in the 35th class. And in order to isolate myself from any possible accusations, I will note that I divide the equipment by manufacturer and not by country of origin, I don’t need to remind me about NATO, penguins, and so on. I don't care about NATO or the rest, the main thing for me is that there are no wars. I like all the creations of all manufacturers, though something less and something more, but I have no bias.

[Sarboz]

Quote: Sined

Since this does not exclude the fact that 625 units have already been built and the fact that there is no competitor on the market in the 35th class.

Only for some reason the Audit Chamber of the Congress does not really agree with you.

At the end of 2020, there were 872 positions on the list of shortcomings., according to the report of the Accounts Chamber. Including flaws that can affect, for example, the effectiveness of a fighter's weapon systems or flight safety. Design flaws were divided into several categories. The former are capable of threatening the lives of pilots, the latter are capable of disrupting a combat mission.

At the same time, experts identified a number of critical flaws that are unlikely to be eliminated. The only thing they came up with was to limit the modes of operation of the aircraft. For example, to avoid damage to the airframe and special "invisible" coating, pilots have recently been advised not to accelerate the F-35 to supersonic speeds.

Another major problem is unexpected pressure surges in the cockpit. The pilots are in pain and have even received barotrauma. And due to flaws in the bailout system, there is the risk of injury to the cervical vertebrae.
With significant overloads in the air, the pilots lose control of the vehicle. For example, at angles of attack greater than 20 degrees, or during a missile evasion maneuver.

In such cases, there are definitely no competitors!

[sined]

What does the Accounts Chamber disagree with? With the fact that 625 units were produced or that there is no single-engine fighter-bomber on the market, and even in a deck version? When will the J-31 be released? Or a mythical single-engine Mig? Or what was announced there in India? And I do not think that the 35th cannot be finished, here I believe Israel who bought the 35th, aviation is a vital element for Israel. It is unlikely that they will buy anything.

[Sarboz]

Quote: Sined

What does the Accounts Chamber disagree with?

The Accounts Chamber does not agree to invest the next 2 billion requested in excess of the budget for the modernization of this endlessly complicated project and the correction of constantly revealed critical design flaws. The findings of the Accounts Chamber confirm the Pentagon's doubts about the correct choice of the F-35 as the main combat vehicle of the Air Force. Even Forbes writes that “the Air Force has come to terms with the failure of the F-35 program, which is confirmed by the talk about the need to create new light fighters. it was planned to completely replace the outdated F-16 in the ranks. "

Quote: Sined

And I do not think that the 35th cannot be finished, here I believe Israel who bought the 35th

Lockheed Martin will definitely finish all the billions of dollars allocated in excess of the budget. And the faithful squires of Uncle Sam, such as Israel, Denmark and others, will help in this good cause with their contributions. God bless America.

[mitroha]

Remind me which site are we on? On torvar, that there are more shtatovniki than Russians? Or is our fifth column so abundant?

[sined]

Which column? Anyway, who do we have? And where does the ratio of shtatovniki (did you pronounce it yourself?) And Russians? It is clear that the majority here are from Russia, but this does not mean that citizens of another country do not have the right to register here and write comments. At least in the site's agreement when registering, I did not see this. And even if the site was only for Russians. It is unlikely that there would be built-in translations.

[mitroha]

Quote: Sined

but this does not mean that citizens of another country do not have the right to register here and write comments

Of course not. But this does not mean that I have no right to express my opinion. And they use it extremely, apparently

[Sarboz]

Quote: Mitroha

Remind me which site are we on?

Something lately reminds me of the site of Echo of Moscow.

[Ryusei]

Are you talking about F35b or 35 in general?

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Sined

Already 625 units have been produced, and of course the pace. The real heir of the 16th.

Well, something will be so.

[mitroha]

Aron, and yours is even more

[rocket757]

"The first of twenty seven": Denmark has received the American F-35A fighter

Updating the aircraft fleet ... a natural process.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: rocket757

"The first of twenty seven": Denmark has received the American F-35A fighter

Updating the aircraft fleet ... a natural process.

On you, God, which is worthless for us ourselves. That we ourselves do not really want to fly. Maybe you, God, can do it. At the same time, God, do not forget to take off the last pants and sell them at a flea market so that we can pay off for this wunderwuffel ...

Not the first Denmark and not the last in the line of henchmen ... So, the middle-half. Kai and Gerda - cry in unison!

[Mouse]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Kai and Gerda - cry in unison!

From such happiness we shed tears ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Mouse

Quote: Zoldat_A

Kai and Gerda - cry in unison!

From such happiness we shed tears ...

And the king's crow too ...

[rocket757]

Quote: Zoldat_A

Not the first Denmark and not the last in the line of henchmen ...

The fact of the matter is that it is not the last ...
We are in that question, and who will follow us, who will support us, everything is very NOT SIMPLE, but to be honest to ourselves ... consider NOBODY!
So now argue what and who is better at it.

[Zoldat_A]

Victor, !

Quote: rocket757

who will follow us, who will support us, everything is very NOT SIMPLE, but to be honest to ourselves ... consider NOBODY!

Let's remember a little, not ours, but our fathers and grandfathers. In 1932, how many people recognized the USSR? And the excavators on the White Sea Canal were American ... You know, Victor, we will survive their "fu". ...
.
In such cases, I always remember my brigade chief of staff, a friend of my father, thanks to whom I served in a normal place, fought, and not wiped breeches in Bashkiria. So he always said: "You shit ... - I will step over. I shit .... - you will drown" ..
.
We, Victor, will survive their "phi", as I said above. And here we are "nasr ...." - they will drown ...

[rocket757]

Quote: Zoldat_A

In 1932, how many people recognized the USSR?

Then there was the USSR, and later the CMEA, the Warsaw Pact ...
The West, by no means immediately rallied under the command of one hehemon ... and certainly, when there was a "club of interests", the interests of the club members were OWN !!! although hatred for the world's first Land of Soviets, at least somehow united them ...
Now everything will be somewhat more complicated, for objective reasons, by the way.
We will survive / we will not survive, there are no questions for me ... we will break through! But it will cost, again, not a little. The worst thing is that it will cost a lot \ heavily to the PEOPLE !!! but how the elite will "suffer" ... is very doubtful.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: rocket757

We will survive / we will not survive, there are no questions for me ... we will break through! But it will cost, again, not a little.

Then we survived - and now we will break through. On Western investments, as the Chicks of Gaidarov's Nest tell us, the light did not come together like a wedge.
.
We will survive without them. I live without bank loans. I buy equipment only for my own, not on credit, pay the workers' wages only with what I have. So far I can manage without IMF loans ....

[rocket757]

If we do not just sit on the sirloin straight, but do business, we will succeed ...

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: rocket757

but how the elite will "suffer" ... is very doubtful.

And here there will be a check for lice. ...
.
Why did one thief sew bras in the industrial zone, and the second, the same, the governor? And because the one who is smarter, at the press conference of the GDP, when he was asked the question of whether we would be able to financially pull the FIFA World Cup, in response to the GDP joke that "big business will help, there is Roman Arkadyevich a couple of stadiums will build "ONLY KIVNUL. And Cho, he wants to sew mittens for him? Much more pleasant to unfasten and live in peace. In the 90s they lashed at bandos - he himself lived next to Togliatti, saw and know who and for what they were shooting. Now without shooting and boys in "Adidas". Now people come to me in good suits and ties. With the crusts of some administration. BUT THE PRINCIPLE IS THE SAME !!!!!! And I send it out the same way. Let them say thank you that they are alive. According to "THEM" laws, according to the 90th, I would have buried ....

[rocket757]

Events, events ... happen, and the people will notice only that which directly concerns them! So it is now, almost forgotten already, which could be different.
Time will pass and what happens in such cases will take place. Everyone will decide that it should be.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: rocket757

Events, events ... happen, and the people will notice only that which directly concerns them! So it is now, almost forgotten already, which could be different.

Victor, your last name is not Confucius?
And then I have already read this somewhere ...

[rocket757]

You see Igor, Confucius, this is just a well-advertised, outside of China, a historical figure ...
I'm a fan of Lee Bo 李白 , eg ...
They cannot be opposed, compared, the more they are revered in their homeland, one is not less than the other.
Looking at a waterfall in the Lushan mountains

Behind the gray haze in the distance
The sunset is burning

I look at the mountain ranges
To the waterfall.

He flies from cloudy heights
Through the mountain forest -

And it seems: then the Milky Way
Fell from heaven.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: rocket757

And it seems: then the Milky Way
Fell from heaven.

I will not say anything in return. Just ask my usual, in such cases, question: "And where to put +10000 here?"

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: rocket757

You see Igor, Confucius, this is just a well-advertised, outside of China, a historical figure ...
I'm a fan of Lee Bo 李白 , eg ...
They cannot be opposed, compared, the more they are revered in their homeland, one is not less than the other.
Looking at a waterfall in the Lushan mountains

Behind the gray haze in the distance
The sunset is burning

I look at the mountain ranges
To the waterfall.

He flies from cloudy heights
Through the mountain forest -

And it seems: then the Milky Way
Fell from heaven.

And I will quote my favorite hoku

Light fell from heaven
Snow fell suddenly
The war has come
Kalashnikov ...

All is decided....

[rocket757]

The culture of different nations is eternal, which should unite our world!
It is a pity that pseudo culture has become a tool in the hands of all ... bad people who seek to divide our world, use them to achieve their goals!

[Alien From]

Only the Jews put their PO, the rest in the hour X can be left with a nose, and for their own grandmother.

[mitroha]

There, everyone in the X hour can stay with a nose, except for the owners .... And who are the owners? Whoever produces or who writes software is a question

[Alien From]

In the modern world, it is difficult to understand (

[voyaka uh]

"Only Jews install their software" ///
----
Only additional software related to weapons and additional
sensors and devices.
Israel has access to basic software, but it is impossible (and, most importantly, unnecessary) to replace it.
Everything related to piloting, aircraft control works well.
Auxiliary systems, such as a system for predicting wear of parts and assemblies, are buggy.

[Burbulator]

Handsome.
The Danes are excellent pilots. With DB experience in hot spots.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Burbulator

The Danes are excellent pilots.

Unrivaled Aces. From the English "ass" ... And the combat experience - the heirs of great traditions. Adolf Aloizovich suffered greatly from the great Danish warriors

An hour after the start of the operation, the government and the king ordered the armed forces not to resist the aggressor and surrendered.

[Andrey Korotkov]

[quote = Zoldat_A] Unrivaled aces. From the English "ass" ... And the combat experience - the heirs of great traditions. Adolf Aloizovich suffered greatly from the great Danish warriors [quote] An hour after the start of the operation, the government and the king ordered the armed forces not to resist the aggressor and surrendered. [/ Quote] Denmark has joined NATO from the beginning, the strongest partner, the most advanced weapon in the first place

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Andrey Korotkov

Denmark has joined NATO from the beginning, the strongest partner, the most advanced weapon in the first place

The day ends cheerfully.

[Dmitry Izmalkov]

Condolences

[Dmitry Izmalkov]

From my point of view, the F-35 is the most beautiful aircraft in the history of aviation. But also one of the most useless

[Andrey Korotkov]

Quote: Dmitry Izmalkov

From my point of view, the F-35 is the most beautiful aircraft in the history of aviation. But also one of the most useless

Do not tell me which toy you are chopping into？

[Dmitry Izmalkov]

What exactly do you dislike? There is no dispute about tastes, but about usefulness ...
Would be good planes, the Americans did not create the plane "4,5"

[Andrey Korotkov]

Quote: Dmitry Izmalkov

What exactly do you dislike? There is no dispute about tastes, but about usefulness ...
Would be good planes, the Americans did not create the plane "4,5"

The beauty of （taste） is controversial for me, but about the uselessness as you bent, dear yes of course but not useless, because. dangerous

[Dmitry Izmalkov]

On IMHO. Held by the Lockheed lobby and foreign partners

[Andrey Korotkov]

Quote: Dmitry Izmalkov

On IMHO. Held by the Lockheed lobby and foreign partners

I don’t argue

[Dmitry Izmalkov]

So why don't you consider it a failure? Why then Super Hornets 3, why "4,5" generation? Constant criticism from bureaucrats of all kinds, etc.

[Ryusei]

Why, as the apparatus of the second line, when the rest will be knocked out and production facilities destroyed, it will do.

[A. Privalov]

although the US tried to force Denmark to buy more aircraft.

Nobody tried anything. The manufacturer could not provide a large number of fighters. They did not meet the delivery time frame.

The issue of acquiring planes in the amount of DKK 16 billion (about $ 2 billion 300 million at the exchange rate at the time) was widely discussed in 2015. As a result, in 2016, the Danish Parliament agreed to allocate 20 billion kronor (about three billion dollars) and the Danish Air Force acquired 27 American F-35 fighters, rejecting the offer of the Swedish Saab Gripen.

L-001 aircraft during an official ceremony at the Lockheed Martin plant in Texas.

[wow]

And why do they (F-35) Denmark even need !?

[Tsoy]

And why do they (F-35) Denmark even need !?

Because the f-16s are their first series, so outdated that replacement is inevitable. Other manufacturers are not considered due to the fact that they participated in the JSF program from the beginning.

[Dmitry Izmalkov]

Would you like to buy an F-16 Block 70/72?

[Sergey_G_M]

Yes, it's just that their F-16s are already working out their resource - a planned replacement / renewal.
Maybe even they don't really need planes, it's just that Denmark in NATO and the United States demand to spend 2% of GDP on armaments, and they spend it on the sly.

[Ryusei]

For us, of course.

[Reserve buildbat]

Still, they know how to photograph beautifully. Even this ugly flightless looks decent.
And interestingly: in Denmark they took into account that keeping 27 penguins will cost 2,5 times more than keeping 30 F-16?

[voyaka uh]

I'm sure they took it into account. The maintenance of the F-35 is indeed more than twice as expensive, according to
compared with the F-16.
But, keep in mind that the combat effectiveness of the F-35 is also twice as high.

[Reserve buildbat]

Yeah. Twice the efficiency. If you don't fly. Even mattresses refuse this piece of failure, and only our Jewish members of the forum are foaming at their mouths trying to contradict the obvious.

[voyaka uh]

If you don't fly, then the F-35 is useless.
But in shock combat and reconnaissance missions, he is irreplaceable.
Israel, due to the specifics of its position, is forced by the F-35 periodically
apply in operations far from their borders.
Therefore, there is practical information about its capabilities.
The rest, more peaceful countries, do not have such information. Pilots from Europe
come to Israel for seminars on the correct application of the F-35.

[Reserve buildbat]

It is logical. There are simply no more aggressive countries than Israel, so pilots from other countries come to you to learn at least somehow to compensate for the penguin's unsuitability for combat with tactics.

[voyaka uh]

What is rich, so happy!
Tactics in the modern air force is the main thing if you don't know. No ace and no super-plane can compensate for the lack of correct tactics.
War is not an air show of aces.

[aszzz888]

voyaka uh (Alexey)
Yesterday, 21: 36

+1
The rich they are, the more happy they are! fellow
Tactics in the modern air force is the main thing if you don't know. No ace and no super-plane can compensate for the lack of correct tactics.
War is not an air show of aces.

And not to be clever on the keyboard.

[Ryusei]

Well, I think the dear "warrior" in the not distant future will demonstrate this to us)