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"ODK-Klimov" began production of prototypes of the VK-650V engine

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The first prototypes of the Russian VK-650V helicopter engine for the Ka-226T will be manufactured by the end of this year, and work has already begun. This was reported on the website of the state corporation "Rostec".


According to the report, the demonstrator of the VK-650V engine being developed by UEC-Klimov has confirmed its characteristics, the next stage of work will be the production of prototypes. In total, by the end of the year, it is planned to create three prototypes of the VK-650V.

(...) the design results prove the competitiveness of the power plant being created. The next stage will be the production of prototypes of VK-650V and their testing (...)

- said in a statement.

It is noted that work on the engine will continue as part of a program that includes several projects at once. The developers intend to adapt the engine to other helicopters.

Earlier it was reported about the development of a gearbox for VK-650V. The first sample is already being tested as part of a demonstrator engine at the UEC-Klimov.

The development of a new VK-650V gas turbine turboshaft engine was announced in 2019. In July 2020, the Ufa Engine-Building Association ("UEC-UMPO") announced the start of production of the VK-650V demonstrator engine. The new engine has a takeoff power of 650 hp. with., as well as in various modes gives out from 400 to 750 liters. from. At the end of January this year, VK-650V entered the stage of bench tests.

The engine is designed for the Ka-226 helicopter and Ansat helicopters. Certification is due in 2023. On Ka-226T helicopters, the Russian VK-650V is to replace the French Arrius 2G1 engines.
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  1. Machito
    Machito April 5 2021 15: 49
    +6
    Uf. At first I read the headline fluently and thought that Maxim Klimov had started to produce engines. laughing
    1. Artyom Karagodin
      Artyom Karagodin April 5 2021 15: 58
      +29
      )))). But jokes are jokes, and import substitution is really going on. PD-14, PD-8, now here is VK-650V. Only here, like those pills for greed - you want MORE, MORE !!!
      1. lucul
        lucul April 5 2021 16: 28
        +4
        But jokes are jokes, and import substitution is really going on. PD-14, PD-8, now here is VK-650V.

        New motors are always good, they are the growth driver for mechanical engineering.
      2. Elturisto
        Elturisto April 5 2021 16: 58
        -26%
        Yeah it goes well, on paper. RD-600 and RD-1500 twenty years ago, turned into VK-650 and VK-1600.Klimov has long been unable to produce anything ... this is a rolling log for cutting ...
      3. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A April 5 2021 17: 01
        -23%
        Quote: Artyom Karagodin
        )))). But jokes are jokes, and import substitution is really going on. PD-14, PD-8, now here is VK-650V. Only here, like those pills for greed - you want MORE, MORE !!!


        What's going on? Where is it going? When is it going?

        And what about PD-14? Has it really gone into production?
        And what kind of aircraft is it already installed on?
        And how many of these aircraft are produced?

        And what about PD-8? Really finished research work on it? And on the flying laboratory "ride"?
        When will they be certified, if we take it by analogy with PD-14, if we count it in years?
        And what kind of aircraft will it be installed on?
        And how many of these planes will be produced?

        Pills are needed not only for greed, but also for the mind.
        Even if the engines can quickly start "riveting" - they need airplanes. Each 2 engines - at least one aircraft.
        Our airlines have no need for airplanes? This means that the production of aircraft will be piece for the detachment of the President and the Ministry of Defense.
        No planes? No motors needed.
        Don't know about this?

        And you have more ...

        Buy 50 screwdrivers for your home. Dear ones. And let them lie.
        You need more ...
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon April 5 2021 18: 00
          +15
          Quote: SovAr238A
          What's going on? Where is it going? When is it going?

          The work is going on, now it is going, despite the groans and whining of the all-fledged people.
        2. Artyom Karagodin
          Artyom Karagodin April 6 2021 00: 45
          +3
          And you should have a drink of valerian, you are our sick one. PD-14 on MS-21 put, if that. You can also answer for others, but your hysteria hardly implies a constructive dialogue.
          1. SovAr238A
            SovAr238A April 6 2021 09: 01
            -3
            Quote: Artyom Karagodin
            And you should have a drink of valerian, you are our sick one. PD-14 on MS-21 put, if that. You can also answer for others, but your hysteria hardly implies a constructive dialogue.


            I am not hysterical - but knowing the list of sanctions - unlike your guidebooks, I remember the sanctions list at the end of 2020.
            And here you all seem to have forgotten. how much news there was on this topic last fall.

            The MS-21 does not exist as a "contract" aircraft.
            2 experienced, fly on foreign composites.
            And with our wings - at best, the plane will appear in 22.

            But.
            Forgot the list of sanctions related to Irkut corporation?
            And there the entire list of "imported components" turned out.

            You know, but in MS-21 - according to projects - 60% of imports.
            60% !!!

            And all the hydraulics, all the electronics,

            So, to replace this, it will take another 5-7 years.

            So the sick ones are you.
            Your disease is a lack of knowledge, memory and unrestrained grunting.
        3. Ka-52
          Ka-52 April 6 2021 04: 27
          +7
          And what about PD-14? Has it really gone into production?

          wipe the snot, otherwise you will sprinkle the entire monitor yourself. PD-14 is certified and is in production. I personally saw him with my own eyes. Irkutsk residents are now assembling the first serial MS-21. There is a production program for the aircraft.
          Buy 50 screwdrivers for your home. Dear ones. And let them lie.
          You need more ...

          buy yourself candles for itching. And then as in Russia something is successfully accomplished, so you immediately start to bake in the area of ​​the bomb bay
          1. SovAr238A
            SovAr238A April 6 2021 09: 04
            -4
            Quote: Ka-52

            wipe the snot, otherwise you will sprinkle the entire monitor yourself. PD-14 is certified and is in production. I personally saw him with my own eyes. Irkutsk residents are now assembling the first serial MS-21. There is a production program for the aircraft.


            The program completely stopped due to the refusal to supply hydraulics and avionics from Western manufacturers.
            The wing may be done in a year, but what will they do next?

            And the plane was developed and designed to use 60% of foreign components.
            Now let's tell us. how will production go with failure and when will it actually start in terms of serial ...

            And snot - this is you, from the tenderness of those. which, in fact, will not be available for another 5 years.
            1. Ka-52
              Ka-52 April 6 2021 09: 26
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              The program completely stopped due to the refusal to supply hydraulics and avionics from Western manufacturers.

              I don’t need to rewrite the gossip here. KSU TS does not depend on "Western manufacturers"
              The main delay was related to certification.
              The wing may be done in a year, but what will they do next?

              you somehow update the training manual. AK has already started production.
              Now let's tell us. how will production go with failure and when will it actually start in terms of serial ...

              yes it is already underway, no matter how you would like the opposite.
              which, in fact, will not be available for another 5 years.

              Ukrainian or American patriot? I remember one of yours already bawled a few years ago that the Russian economy was torn to pieces
              1. SovAr238A
                SovAr238A April 6 2021 10: 45
                -3
                Quote: Ka-52
                The program completely stopped due to the refusal to supply hydraulics and avionics from Western manufacturers.

                I don’t need to rewrite the gossip here. KSU TS does not depend on "Western manufacturers"
                The main delay was related to certification.


                How will you change the products of RockwellCollins, Honeywell, Eaton, Hamilton, Zodiac ...
                Whose salon will it be?

                Well, yes, we bought 5 aircraft sets before the sanctions.
                They will be able to pour oil into the ears of patriots about "serial" cars through all channels.
                And then what? When will these 5 car sets run out?

                Well tell us all. it will be very interesting...
                1. Ka-52
                  Ka-52 April 6 2021 11: 28
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                  How will you change RockwellCollins products?

                  KRETovskaya will be, do not whine.
                  And then what? When will these 5 car sets run out?

                  KRET will be certified. Some subindicators should know that the main problem is not in the creation and supply, but in certification.
                  Well tell us all. it will be very interesting...

                  who do you want? You were only interested in what if the national aircraft program would collapse. Here's a reason for you to antics on the Internet - above the roof. So all the same
                  Ukrainian or American patriot?
                  1. SovAr238A
                    SovAr238A April 6 2021 11: 52
                    -2
                    Quote: Ka-52

                    Well tell us all. it will be very interesting...

                    who do you want? You were only interested in what if the national aircraft program would collapse. Here's a reason for you to antics on the Internet - above the roof

                    Uryakalka like you, having only one barely hatched chicken, start yelling to the whole world that you are already a tycoon - the owner of a huge poultry farm with a million carcasses and 100 million eggs monthly.
                    You are already starting to count the huge profits and publicly talk about how you buy a yacht, an island and a private jet.
                    How do you divorce your old wife and you will have a whole harem of lovers.

                    In fact, you only have one chicken.
                    And it is not known whether he will live to see the fall.

                    And I, as a former employee of the 18th aircraft plant, on which the Tu-114 and Tu-154, Tu-95 and its modifications were built.
                    I myself personally went to the workshops in which these planes were stationed (since I worked in repair workshop 20 and had access on call to closed workshops).

                    And I know how at the very beginning of the 2000s such an oligarch as Deripaska wanted to restore the already deceased plant. He wanted to make airplanes. He has invested billions of money.
                    But desire and money alone are not enough.
                    There is also such a thing as market conditions.
                    And after 3 years - he stopped his attempts. Having lost billions.
                    For desire, without asking, does not give anything.
                    Almost 21 billion rubles were spent on the MS-600 program at the beginning of 20 years. For the PD-14 program, about 400 billion rubles by the middle of 20 ...

                    Now divide this money into those 100-150 planes that may be purchased for domestic use.
                    On which, only for production, it will also be necessary to spend about 4 billion more for the production of each - another 400-600 billion rubles.
                    If you think that a turnkey civil aircraft is cheaper, then you are very wrong.
                    A total of 1,5 trillion rubles per 100 aircraft.
                    What is the bottom line? That each of our aircraft will cost the state 15 billion rubles.
                    This is how the economy does not work.
                    The country will simply be ruined by the word "absolutely".
                    The aircraft will need to be produced at least 500 pieces so that its price is at least on the verge of break-even.


                    And I would really like everything to be produced in Russia, but I hate hats and uryakalok. who do not know anything, who work either on a military pension or on a regular salary. who have never earned money by labor, and even more so, who do not know the economics of the enterprise.

                    And we also have a chicken.
                    And you are already buying a yacht and picking up a young wife.
                    But I wrote about this above.
                    1. Ka-52
                      Ka-52 April 6 2021 12: 56
                      +1
                      And I would really like everything to be produced in Russia,

                      in your constant desire to throw a shovel on the fan, this is not noticeable in any way. There are people who see difficulties and try to overcome them. And there are people who, seeing difficulties, begin to scream and flap their wings like a chicken that sees a beetle.
                      having only one barely hatched chick,

                      I'm just talking about this. Only I see the potential for further development in this, but in your "vision" it is already dead. This is our difference. I am very familiar with such a type of people like you, I have seen quite a few such people in my 6 decades of life. It is good if they work at the level of "bring it, give it," and God forbid, somewhere in the leaders.
                      For the PD-14 program, about 400 billion rubles by the middle of 20 ...

                      added zero from yourself? Do you think that, while working in the office, I have no idea how much was spent on development and how much more will be spent (on fine-tuning or, for example, EASA certification)?
                      And you are already buying a yacht and picking up a young wife.

                      lift our eyes through the text and read my first answer
                      PD-14 is certified and is in production. I personally saw him with my own eyes. Irkutsk residents are now assembling the first serial MS-21. There is a production program for the aircraft.

                      what is not true? PD-14 is available and certified in Russia. The serial 21st is being assembled in Irkutsk. There is a program for the plane, although it has shifted. So what
                      Uryakalka like you, having only one barely hatched chicken, start yelling to the whole world that you are already a tycoon - the owner of a huge poultry farm with a million carcasses and 100 million eggs monthly

                      ??? Probably the fact that lies are easy for you in everything, even in such trifles as an argument with an opponent.
                      they are either on a military pension or on a regular salary. who have never earned money by labor, and even more so, who do not know the economics of the enterprise.

                      I would put you at the wheel on the 22nd and drive about 6 hours of commercials without turning on the AP-7MTs, so that you sweat to your panties - I would look how money is earned without difficulty
                      1. SovAr238A
                        SovAr238A April 6 2021 13: 21
                        -2
                        Quote: Ka-52

                        in your constant desire to throw a shovel on the fan, this is not noticeable in any way. There are people who see difficulties and try to overcome them. And there are people who, seeing difficulties, begin to scream and flap their wings like a chicken that sees a beetle.


                        Again.
                        Stop yelling urya when it doesn't make sense.
                        You only have one word "will", "will" - as you repeat mantras.
                        For you "will be" a synonym for "already is" ...
                        And this is not at all so - and this is what I am trying to convey for you such "uryakalok"!

                        We have only 5 sets of equipment for assembling the MC-21.
                        There are no wings or stabilizers.
                        Even if they can start production within 2 years, it will be good.
                        But what will you do next?
                        Dreaming about what KRET will do?
                        Such equipment will be developed and refined - for at least another 7 years.
                        What will you do here and now?
                        Engines?
                        For an aircraft that is still unknown to fly (and our 100% complete set) or not?
                        Will they be able to do it or not at our base?
                        Well, if you make 30-40 engines in 3 years - then what?
                        What's next if the first airplanes begin to be made only in 28 or 30 years.
                        And they will be made in the first years of 2-5 pieces.
                        And your 40 engines will last for another 5 years of production.
                        And what to do with your employees, who are from 25 to 35 years old - will not be needed.
                        Will your employees have to be fired?
                        Engines, avionics, hydraulics, glider - must be done at the same time - this is the essence of the production process.
                        And the good of your engines now. if an aircraft, a serial aircraft from our components will appear in the series no earlier than 28-30 years ...
                        That's where the problem is in your heads.
                        You are incapable of a sane manufacturing economy.

                        You just don't understand this.
                        Not given to you.
                      2. Ka-52
                        Ka-52 April 7 2021 07: 18
                        0
                        Stop yelling urya when it doesn't make sense.

                        once again poke your nose into my comment.
                        PD-14 is certified and is in production. I personally saw him with my own eyes. Irkutsk residents are now assembling the first serial MS-21. There is a production program for the aircraft.


                        what is not true? PD-14 is available and certified in Russia. The serial 21 is under assembly in Irkutsk. There is a program for the plane, although it has shifted.

                        where are the uryakalka and "will be"? you decided to torture me with your schoolboy trolling? Not worth it - I already understood who you are and all your "arsenal"
                        There are no wings or stabilizers.

                        it feels like you are a computer bot. You write the answers, but you prefer to ignore them and dump all your nonsense out of my head on me.
                        Dreaming about what KRET will do?
                        Such equipment will be developed and refined - for at least another 7 years.

                        Well, come on, you will not introduce me to the nonsense that your head is stuffed with. Firstly, KRET two years ago received a technical specification for the development of the entire KSU, LSI, ABSU, etc. Secondly, I repeat - the main difficulty is in the certification of equipment, and not in its development. I understand that it is stupid to ask such an American singer as you, but all the same - whose design and production is the BIS Su-2?
                        Engines?

                        PD-14 was not created exclusively for MS-21. Only there is no need for squeals here that our engine will be unclaimed.
                        And what to do with your employees, who are from 25 to 35 years old - will not be needed.

                        You have to be a fool to think that Saturn is loaded exclusively with PD-14. You don't have to go further - the level of comments is clear.
                        Engines, avionics, hydraulics, glider - must be done at the same time - this is the essence of the production process.

                        and what's the problem? What is the reason for your snot about this?
                        You are incapable of a sane manufacturing economy.

                        who are we"? Russians? and who are capable? Are you American and Ukrainian patriots? Well, you're in luck. Just something, I do not see any success with Boeing. And with the engines, problems and with the management and sales system. Perhaps your Antonov shines with economic efficiency? The circus left and you stayed laughing
                        You just don't understand this.
                        Not given to you.

                        only fools think that only they know the truth. Ce la vie.
      4. garri-lin
        garri-lin April 6 2021 09: 16
        +2
        Well, on the one hand, the truth in your words is present. But only partly. The engine is the most technologically advanced part of the aircraft. There will be a spent engine, and there will be planes. And it will depend only on the wishes of the buyers. And this value can be adjusted. A simple strong-willed decision on tax incentives. Will receive less budget from air carriers, but will receive more from manufacturers.
        1. SovAr238A
          SovAr238A April 6 2021 10: 46
          -2
          Quote: garri-lin
          Well, on the one hand, the truth in your words is present. But only partly. The engine is the most technologically advanced part of the aircraft. There will be a spent engine, and there will be planes. And it will depend only on the wishes of the buyers. And this value can be adjusted. A simple strong-willed decision on tax incentives. Will receive less budget from air carriers, but will receive more from manufacturers.


          Engine - where will you put it?
          Into a glider without avionics?
          Without a salon?
          1. abc_alex
            abc_alex April 6 2021 14: 29
            +1
            Quote: SovAr238A
            Into a glider without avionics?
            Without a salon?

            In fairness, what would a glider with avionics and a cabin fly without engines?
            The topic is dedicated to VK-650. This is a niche product designed for light helicopters. First of all, for the Ka-226. This vehicle is in high demand for the navy. And now there is a salon and avionics for it, but there is no motor. Do you think this is better?
            Ideally, everything should be in sync. But when did it happen? Remember how the Tu-95 was developed. There it was just the opposite, the plane was made before the engine was ready. Is it better?
            1. SovAr238A
              SovAr238A April 6 2021 15: 36
              0
              Quote: abc_alex
              Quote: SovAr238A
              Into a glider without avionics?
              Without a salon?

              In fairness, what would a glider with avionics and a cabin fly without engines?
              The topic is dedicated to VK-650. This is a niche product designed for light helicopters. First of all, for the Ka-226. This vehicle is in high demand for the navy. And now there is a salon and avionics for it, but there is no motor. Do you think this is better?


              And tell me, why plan / develop to make initially a helicopter, purely sharpened for foreign (American and French) engines?
              If you make such a car, then calculate all the risks ...
              And you have to be a fool so as not to notice all the risks and problems with such planning.

              And why is everyone targeting the VK-650?
              After all, there was a modified TV-0-100 ready for production, which was put on trial batches of the Ka-126 ..
              And then heroically overcome all mistakes, spend billions on new R&D ...



              Quote: abc_alex

              Ideally, everything should be in sync. But when did it happen? Remember how the Tu-95 was developed. There it was just the opposite, the plane was made before the engine was ready. Is it better?

              Well, let's not juggle.
              For the Tu-95 was developed for both propulsion options. Both under the turbojet engine and under the theater. And if at that moment there were more economical turbines (at least by 15%), then we would never see the propeller Tu-95 ...
              Yes Yes.

              And the difference since the signing of the assignment for the design of the TV-12 TVD aircraft is only a year and a half. for the design, construction of the aircraft and equipping it with new engines.
              Those. it must be understood that the engine was on its way and the plane was still only in mind (based on the experienced Tu-85s) ...
              So those who told you that the Tu-95 was "waiting" for the engines is not true!
              1. abc_alex
                abc_alex April 6 2021 16: 31
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                Quote: SovAr238A
                And tell me, why plan / develop to make initially a helicopter, purely sharpened for foreign (American and French) engines?


                So there the customer was a civilian, Gazprom and the Ministry of Internal Affairs (EMNIP). And who cares what happened then? There is now". Now we need a light multipurpose helicopter for ships of small displacement, there is such a machine, but there are no motors for it.

                Quote: SovAr238A
                And why is everyone targeting the VK-650?
                After all, there was a modified TV-0-100 ready for production, which was put on trial lots of the Ka-126.

                I do not know.
                Do you think that here now there is a difference to develop a new engine or restore the production of an old one, and even taking into account the fact that TV-0-100 was not mass-produced.

                Quote: SovAr238A
                For the Tu-95 was developed for both engine variants. Both under the turbojet engine and under the theater of operations.

                I always believed that the very appearance of the Tu-95 was determined precisely by the fact that it was designed for a theater of operations ... No matter how much I read materials about the history of the creation of this machine, they write everywhere that the decision on the type of power plant was made BEFORE the design began.

                Quote: SovAr238A
                And the difference since the signing of the assignment for the design of the TV-12 TVD aircraft is only a year and a half. for the design, construction of the aircraft and equipping it with new engines.

                4 years from the date of signing. The decision to develop a long-range bomber was made in 1951, and TV-12 was first installed on a "backup" in 1954.

                Quote: SovAr238A
                So those who told you that the Tu-95 was "waiting" for the engines is not true!

                Truth. It was just that the wait was negligible by today's standards. 2 years. In 1952, the first copy went to factory tests. And TV-12 came in 1954.
                1. SovAr238A
                  SovAr238A April 6 2021 17: 17
                  +1
                  Quote: abc_alex


                  Quote: SovAr238A
                  For the Tu-95 was developed for both engine variants. Both under the turbojet engine and under the theater of operations.

                  I always believed that the very appearance of the Tu-95 was determined precisely by the fact that it was designed for a theater of operations ... No matter how much I read materials about the history of the creation of this machine, they write everywhere that the decision on the type of power plant was made BEFORE the design began.


                  There was a competition of advance projects between the M-4 and the Tu-95.
                  The sweep of the wing is the same for both machines.
                  35 degrees.
                  Just under the turbojet engine AM-3.
                  For it was for this engine that the planes were created.
                  Tupolev with AM-3 engines would fly exactly the same as Myasishchev M-4.
                  And in order to win, he needed something, but to surpass the M-4.
                  And Tupolev decided to switch to a screw one.
                  In order to increase the flight range and it is with this only parameter - to surpass the competitor. Yes, it surpassed - by 2000 kilometers.
                  And only for this reason I won that competition.
                  1. abc_alex
                    abc_alex April 6 2021 18: 04
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                    Quote: SovAr238A
                    And Tupolev decided to switch to a screw one.
                    In order to increase the flight range and it is with this only parameter - to surpass the competitor. Yes, it surpassed - by 2000 kilometers.
                    And only for this reason I won that competition.

                    This is yes. But the Tu-95 under the turbojet engine was not designed. He had two power units and both screw.
                    1. SovAr238A
                      SovAr238A April 6 2021 18: 51
                      +2
                      Quote: abc_alex
                      Quote: SovAr238A
                      And Tupolev decided to switch to a screw one.
                      In order to increase the flight range and it is with this only parameter - to surpass the competitor. Yes, it surpassed - by 2000 kilometers.
                      And only for this reason I won that competition.

                      This is yes. But the Tu-95 under the turbojet engine was not designed. He had two power units and both screw.


                      It was also designed for AM-3.
                      And the sweep angle specified in the Terms of Reference was precisely reactive.
                      This competition had just such a terms of reference.
                      But you don't want to understand that. what I wrote.
                      For the sake of winning the competition, Tupolev deliberately deviated from the requirements of the technical specifications.
                      And I was able to win only due to the fact that I got an extra 2000 kilometers in range.
                    2. abc_alex
                      abc_alex April 6 2021 23: 44
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                      Quote: SovAr238A
                      It was also designed for AM-3.

                      Under AM-3, Myasishchev made, in 1950 he turned to the government with a proposal to create a strategic bomber with a maximum speed of 950 km / h, and a range of more than 13000 km. It was proposed to build the plane with 4 AM-3 turbojet engines. For this project, on March 24, 1951, by a decree of the Council of Ministers of the USSR, V.M. Myasishchev's OKB was restored, he was assigned the OKB-23 index.

                      Quote: SovAr238A
                      And the sweep angle specified in the Terms of Reference was precisely reactive.

                      As far as I understand, the sweep angle is not determined by the type of engine, but by the intended speed. There, the task was to create a bomber with a cruising speed of over 700 km / h. Hence the sweep of the wing. The Tupolev Design Bureau studied swept wings since the end of the war together with TsAGI and, as a result, made the Tu-16. When Tupolev set about creating a long-range high-speed bomber, to save time, the spent TsAGI and the swept wing of the 16 project (88 degrees of sweep) and the fuselage of the 35 project, tested on the Tu-85, were taken.

                      Quote: SovAr238A
                      For the sake of winning the competition, Tupolev deliberately deviated from the requirements of the technical specifications.


                      No.
                      First, there was no competition at the time of Tupolev's decision on the type of motor. There was no specific assignment either. It was about "fly to the United States, drop the bomb and return." As I wrote above, the project of a high-speed long-range bomber began with the initiative of Myasishchev. It was just that the country was different then, and that was normal.
                      Secondly, the type of engine by the Tupolev design bureau was studied purely theoretically, BEFORE design. Tupolev never had a Tu-95 jet project. He originally and always planned to make an airplane with a theater of operations. And the choice was only between the existing TV-2F, two per pylon, and the promising TV-12.
                      It was this project that Tupolev presented to Stalin. Yes, deliberately choosing a theater of operations. But not deviating from the technical task at all. Since there was no technical task of such detail at all.
        2. garri-lin
          garri-lin April 6 2021 18: 43
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          The salon is not a problem at all. Trust me. Avionics is more complicated. But even in the most extreme case, assuming that all the designers are stupefied, avionics can be made for domestic flights. Analogue, the old fashioned way.
    2. ramzay21
      ramzay21 April 6 2021 09: 17
      0
      You can’t say better
  2. svp67
    svp67 April 5 2021 18: 57
    +4
    Quote: Artyom Karagodin
    PD-14, PD-8, now here is VK-650V.

    VK-117 forgot to mention.
    Quote: Artyom Karagodin
    want MORE, MORE !!!

    This, yes ... I would like to make an engine for light aircraft, including UAVs, on the basis of this VK-650
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek April 5 2021 19: 29
      +4
      Its two options are being made ... on the L-410 and on the Ansat
  • iouris
    iouris April 5 2021 17: 13
    -10%
    Quote: Bearded
    I thought that Maxim Klimov had started producing engines.

    Is this the husband of Maruska Klimova?
    1. Machito
      Machito April 5 2021 17: 50
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      Quote: iouris
      Quote: Bearded
      I thought that Maxim Klimov had started producing engines.

      Is this the husband of Maruska Klimova?

      This is a like-minded person of Alexander Timokhin.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 April 5 2021 15: 49
    +6
    "ODK-Klimov" began production of prototypes of the VK-650V engine
    Klimovtsy need to expand ... it looks like that.
    1. Kurare
      Kurare April 5 2021 16: 24
      +6
      I hope that the VK-650 will become, like the PD-14, the basis for various modifications. Those. in priority, of course, the helicopter, and then the turboprop for light aviation and UAVs.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 5 2021 18: 17
        +1
        Times were not easier, but what will be next ... I hope, for us, they will be SUMMER!
        1. Captain Pushkin
          Captain Pushkin April 6 2021 10: 34
          0
          Quote: rocket757
          rocket757 (Victor) Yesterday, 18:17
          0
          Times were not easier, but what will be next ...

          Harsh years go
          The struggle for freedom of the country
          Others come for them
          They will be difficult too ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 April 6 2021 10: 42
            0
            So many things are repeated ... and we are on skis and any deep snow we need ...
    2. bayard
      bayard April 5 2021 16: 56
      +4
      These engines have been promising for years. They swore to me at the beginning of last year that by the end of 2020 the VK-650 would be ready. Been yearning for it.
      ... And for the Ansat, and for the Ka-226, and for the L-410 (bought by all production from the Czechs, but never started production), and to resume production of the An-2 or its analogues.
      With aircraft engines, it’s quite a problem ... the Ka-60 \ 62 won’t take off for ten years without engines ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 5 2021 18: 18
        +4
        Too much has been destroyed, lost ... the boom hopes that the rebuilding process has begun.
  • Fungus
    Fungus April 5 2021 15: 50
    +7
    It makes me happy that they began to seriously engage in engines for airplanes and helicopters.
    1. Genry
      Genry April 5 2021 16: 21
      +4
      Quote: Fungus
      It makes me happy that they began to seriously engage in engines for airplanes and helicopters.

      And space:
      https://ria.ru/20201215/dvigateli-1589359369.html
      Konanykhin about this ...
      1. Aleksandr97
        Aleksandr97 April 6 2021 10: 01
        0
        Maybe ... In more elaborate versions, electrodynamic, plasma. This step certainly needs to be passed, but it is at best for space Venus-Mars-belt of asteroids. As well as liquid-propellant rocket engine, by discarding the substance by any means, the supply of this substance limits the possibilities in terms of flight range, i.e. you can hypothetically create an engine that will create thrust from any substance up to the structures of the spacecraft itself, which in the end, of course. For interstellar flights, speeds close to or exceeding the speed of light are needed, and one cannot do without mastering fundamentally different physical principles of travel in a vacuum.
  • Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock April 5 2021 16: 04
    -4
    And seven years have not passed.
    Although no, it's gone.
    The eighth went, as our commanders did realize that it was a brotherhood, but it’s better to have your own.
  • Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat April 5 2021 16: 21
    +2
    How are helicopter engines tested? Aircraft on LL are suspended and driven in different modes, but what about these?
    Would rather go to the series. Together with helicopters.
    1. Sofa batyr
      Sofa batyr April 5 2021 16: 44
      +5
      Quote: Stroibat stock
      How are helicopter engines tested? Aircraft on LL are suspended and driven in different modes, but what about these?

      Probably both at the stands and at the flying laboratories ...
  • Guru
    Guru April 5 2021 16: 24
    +2
    The first prototypes of the Russian VK-650V helicopter engine for the Ka-226T will be manufactured by the end of this year, and work has already begun.
    Well, finally, we will give up the Canadian turboshaft engines "Allison"
  • xorek
    xorek April 5 2021 16: 26
    +4
    I will not praise, I just wish the peasants success, they are creating the right business for the country!
    We wait and hope hi
  • iouris
    iouris April 5 2021 17: 14
    +1
    What happened, why did it happen?
  • ficus2003
    ficus2003 April 5 2021 19: 05
    +1
    And why on this site do not put a link to the web page to which they link? Laziness? Aptitude? Something other?
    Because how to post shit vyser're coming out-propaganda, then before that always hands reach to write a whole article.
  • lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 April 5 2021 21: 00
    +3
    Due to the lack of engines, the Ka-226 is absent on the PSKR, at the border guards and in the army. These engines are very much needed.