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The timing of the start of the R&D work on the new generation missile system with the Kedr ICBM has been announced

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Development work on the creation of a new missile system with an intercontinental ballistic missile "Kedr" will begin in 2023-2024. It is reported by TASS with reference to a source in the DIC.


According to the source, funding for the creation of a new ICBM was allocated within the framework of the current state armaments program until 2027. The start of development work is scheduled for 2023-2024.

Research work (R&D) on "Kedr" was funded under the current state armaments program until 2027. R&D will begin in 2023-2024

- said the source.

He explained that the new Kedr missile system is being created to replace the Yars complexes, and it will be put into service in the 2030s. The troops will receive the new ICBM in both mine and mobile versions.

Earlier, information appeared in the media about the start of research work on the creation of a new generation strategic missile system. There are no specifics on the new complex yet, the work has just begun. As an unnamed representative of the Russian defense industry complex said, more specific data will appear with the start of the ROC.

At present, the basis of the Strategic Missile Forces' armament is made up of Topol-M and Yars missile systems with silo and mobile ICBMs, and the Topol ICBMs are gradually being phased out. The newest missile system with ICBM "Sarmat" is being tested, missiles with the "Avangard" hypersonic block are being put into service. The nuclear submarine missile carriers Borey and Borey-A are carriers of the Bulava missile system.
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B April 3 2021 07: 23
    +3
    I do not know what kind of tree Yars is, but Poplars scare Americans with their fluff.
    They have an allergy to poplar fluff!
    And here is the mighty Cedar! With cones!
    And if cedar cones fall on them ...
    With diapers, yes, diapers, with toilet paper, problems will begin!
    1. hrych
      hrych April 3 2021 07: 49
      +17
      Poplar is a candy bar and made the Americans very happy. their missile defense had to shoot down one BB. A little upsetting the mobile variant, for a heavy destruction with a disarming blow, but nothing. Thunder struck with Yars and MIRV, i.e. and mobile and for each BB you need an anti-missile. I'm afraid the Cedar will be the essence of Rubezh, mobile, versatile in range (hello EU and China), compact and BB can be given elements of maneuvering. The milestone has even been successfully tested, but this is its design nomenclature, of course the mobile must have a tree-name.
      1. Victor_B
        Victor_B April 3 2021 07: 52
        +2
        The milestone has even been successfully tested
        IMHO Rubezh is Mkeevtsy, i.e. liquid rocket.
        MIT is a solid fuel Topol, Yars, Bulava, and if we are talking about their development, then Kedr is a solid fuel.
        1. hrych
          hrych April 3 2021 07: 55
          +7
          No, the brainchild of MIT. The nomenclature of the old coastal border with the PKR, and there are now Val and Bastion. A repeat of the nomenclature, however. Trees for mobile ICBMs are hiding in the forest.
      2. venik
        venik April 3 2021 09: 00
        +1
        Quote: hrych
        Frontier, mobile, versatile in range (hello EU and PRC)

        ========
        Greetings, Dmitry!
        Everything is correct. The Strategic Missile Forces is a guarantee of the country's protection and security. Here it is impossible to stop at what has been achieved - this is like death! drinks
        1. Fan-fan
          Fan-fan April 3 2021 17: 48
          -2
          It’s true that we cannot stop, but every 10 years it’s not a matter of accepting a new rocket. So you can stay without pants. For example, we have developed "Rubezh", the project is tested and ready for production, and what, where is it? Money down the drain?
          1. venik
            venik April 3 2021 18: 13
            0
            Quote: Fan-Fan
            For example, we have developed "Rubezh", the project is tested and ready for production, and what, where is it? Money down the drain?

            ======
            Not special, of course, in matters of the Strategic Missile Forces, in general and ICBMs, in particular ... But I suspect that these are systems different class! After all, "Rubezh" is kind of like a "medium-range" system (from 2 to 6 thousand km), and "Kedr" - it seems to be more distant .... Although I could be wrong ....
            Who is "in the know" - correct!
            1. kapitan92
              kapitan92 April 3 2021 21: 21
              +1
              Quote: venik
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              For example, we have developed "Rubezh", the project is tested and ready for production, and what, where is it? Money down the drain?

              ======
              Not special, of course, in matters of the Strategic Missile Forces, in general and ICBMs, in particular ... But I suspect that these are systems different class! After all, "Rubezh" is kind of like a "medium-range" system (from 2 to 6 thousand km), and "Kedr" - it seems to be more distant .... Although I could be wrong ....
              Who is "in the know" - correct!

              These systems are indeed in different weight classes.
              RS-26 "Rubezh" mobile ground-based strategic missile system. Further development of "YARS", / RS 24 /, with new MIRVs.
              The range is 2000-6000 km, and the installation of the mobile complex itself was 40 tons lighter than that of the RS24.
              The deployment was supposed to start in 2017, and only in the mobile version.
              In 2018, Rubezh and Barguzin were excluded from the rearmament program until 2027. Instead, the Avangard was included in the GPV-27. The reason for the exclusion is the impossibility of simultaneous financing of the above programs.
              "CEDAR" !!! We will not find materials and performance characteristics anywhere. smile
              In the specialized media, information is given about the replacement of mine-based complexes, it is thought that it will have a range of more than 11 thousand km.
              hi
              1. venik
                venik April 3 2021 21: 54
                0
                Thank you, Vyacheslav! Although, in principle, I assumed all this. Indeed, it is ruinous for us to pull several expensive projects at once!
                As for me - so it is necessary to concentrate on projects that give a PRINCIPAL advantage!
                1. kapitan92
                  kapitan92 April 3 2021 22: 00
                  0
                  Quote: venik
                  As for me - so it is necessary to concentrate on projects that give a PRINCIPAL advantage!

                  This is all true! It's a shame that almost everything came up to the series at the Votkinsk plant, and a bummer. The giraffe is big .....!
                  This is what I cannot understand, "Sarmat" has not been finished yet, has not been assigned to the troops, according to all the announcements "America's thunderstorm", range, number of MIRVs, etc.
                  Start financing the Kedr program ???
                  1. venik
                    venik April 3 2021 22: 11
                    0
                    Quote: kapitan92
                    This is what I cannot understand, "Sarmat" has not been finished yet, has not been assigned to the troops, according to all the announcements "America's thunderstorm", range, number of MIRVs, etc.

                    ========
                    I am tormented by vague suspicions ...

                    That all this was conceived for the sake of "Vanguard" !!!
                    Like to replace the UR-100 .... what
                    1. kapitan92
                      kapitan92 April 3 2021 22: 25
                      +1
                      Quote: venik
                      That all this was conceived for the sake of "Vanguard" !!!

                      So this is a hypersonic unit, the UR-100N UTTH missile, the unit is actually combat equipment. The rocket is "ancient". They need to be removed, as well as "Voevoda", how long can the warranty period be extended.
                      It was assumed that the "Vanguard" will be placed on the "Sarmat", but so far it is dull. Another cycle of throws and goos.
                  2. Xscorpion
                    Xscorpion April 6 2021 06: 14
                    0
                    Quote: kapitan92
                    Quote: venik
                    As for me - so it is necessary to concentrate on projects that give a PRINCIPAL advantage!

                    This is all true! It's a shame that almost everything came up to the series at the Votkinsk plant, and a bummer. The giraffe is big .....!
                    This is what I cannot understand, "Sarmat" has not been finished yet, has not been assigned to the troops, according to all the announcements "America's thunderstorm", range, number of MIRVs, etc.
                    Start financing the Kedr program ???

                    So these are different missiles, Kedr will replace the Yarsam. The designers will not sit still. We need to develop this direction. Besides, it’s not close. In the 30s, they will only be put into service, and this is not a very definite period. , plus then rearmament in 10 years, in reality, the replacement will take place no earlier than 20 years later.
        2. hrych
          hrych April 4 2021 19: 02
          +2
          Quote: venik
          Greetings, Dmitry!

          Good health! drinks
    2. Intruder
      Intruder April 3 2021 10: 31
      -3
      They have an allergy to poplar fluff!
      They are allergic not only to down, but many other things cause: hypersound, electronic warfare, underwater vehicles and the legend of recent years - the notorious "Russian kakers" with diplomas from a gloomy and invisible academy somewhere in the snowy forests ...
      1. venik
        venik April 3 2021 21: 56
        0
        Quote: Intruder
        they are allergic not only to down, but many other things cause: hypersound, electronic warfare, underwater vehicles and the legend of recent years - the notorious "Russian kakers

        =======
        Yes, to be honest, they are allergic to RUSSIA as such! The rest is just "phantom pains"! drinks
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins April 3 2021 07: 24
    .
    By the specified years, 99 percent will have forgotten the deadlines ...
    1. Anzhey V.
      Anzhey V. April 3 2021 08: 18
      +5
      By the specified years, 99 percent will have forgotten the deadlines ...


      Let me disagree with you here: a nuclear arsenal is a sacred thing even for our powers that be, the last and weighty argument in any dispute.

      This is the only area in which we are really ahead of the curve and which carries out the development of new types of weapons on time.
    2. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 April 3 2021 08: 20
      +4
      This rarely happens with this weapon. It is critical
  3. Thrifty
    Thrifty April 3 2021 07: 26
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    An interesting thing, our Defense Ministry screamed hoarsely about secrecy, about closeness, first of all, according to the latest programs for the development and creation of new weapons, and here it was, only the drawings of the finished product remained to be posted on the network! !!
    1. Thrifty
      Thrifty April 3 2021 07: 36
      .
      The cons to me are clearly from the spies, they are waiting for secret information, wassat and I demand from the state to protect the secrets as it should, and not to spread such "joys for the hunters for our secrets" in the media !!! am fool fool
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich April 3 2021 07: 56
        +11
        Quote: Thrifty
        The cons to me are clearly from the spies,

        Disadvantages for you from those who were annoyed by your constant tantrums about the fact that all technologies were sold, and all secrets were spilled.
        Nobody did anything like that, these are all your personal cockroaches. Which many have long been tired of.
        1. Thrifty
          Thrifty April 3 2021 09: 19
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          Sydor Avapodestovich - if you can't say anything about the article, meaning and content, please go by my comments! Tired of worse than a bitter radish of their inappropriate clever fellows!
          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich April 3 2021 09: 41
            +5
            Quote: Thrifty
            walk with God past my comments! Tired of worse than a bitter radish with their inappropriate clever fellows!

            In this case, I simply have to be noted in each of your comments!
            "worthless" is written with "and" and "e".
            1. Thrifty
              Thrifty April 3 2021 10: 56
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              Sydor Avampodestovich - schools are crying for you, such a teacher of the Russian language will do the wrong thing! And, you have to walk past my comments! !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!
              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich April 3 2021 10: 58
                +3
                Yes, I was joking, do not worry you so. But still try to write without mistakes.
      2. hrych
        hrych April 3 2021 08: 05
        +12
        The enemy must know and tremble, spend the budget (unsuccessfully) on development of neutralization, etc. Ie. added to the destructive power and the element of hybrid warfare.
        1. Alien From
          Alien From April 3 2021 08: 58
          +9
          Information is also a weapon. 21 century. Let their turnips scratch, where is the truth and where is not wassat
      3. prior
        prior April 3 2021 08: 45
        +4
        It could be a little different. They say that they will "plant", in the sense of developing "Kedr", but in fact "Aspen". It makes aspen colas and coffins better. While the spies are looking for "Cedar" or "Aspen" from the mine flies out - "Oak" !!! bully
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa April 3 2021 14: 56
          +1
          Quote: prior
          While the spies are looking for "Cedar" or "Aspen" from the mine flies out - "Oak" !!!

          Pancake! It seems that you are not on a military site, but at a furniture factory! bully
      4. Piramidon
        Piramidon April 3 2021 11: 12
        +8
        Quote: Thrifty
        I demand from the state

        Stomp your foot still.
      5. Xscorpion
        Xscorpion April 6 2021 06: 16
        0
        Quote: Thrifty
        The cons to me are clearly from the spies, they are waiting for secret information, wassat and I demand from the state to protect the secrets as it should, and not to spread such "joys for the hunters for our secrets" in the media !!! am fool fool

        And what secrets have they revealed? The name of a non-existent rocket?
    2. KCA
      KCA April 3 2021 07: 43
      +9
      The news does not even have a TTZ for a non-existent rocket, what is the secrecy?
    3. Tusv
      Tusv April 3 2021 08: 16
      +3
      Eustace Alexu - the Americans learned the name of the rocket, I'm waiting for further instructions laughing ... What's the secret in the rocket? Engines, rudders, number of LBG and BG, missile defense bypass algorithms and materials. Everything else is on the Internet, which is now reported.
    4. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock April 3 2021 10: 06
      +2
      Quote: Thrifty
      our MO screamed hoarsely about secrecy,

      When was this?
      However, when necessary, they know how to keep secrecy.
      And in this case, everything is exactly the opposite.
      For a strategic weapon is a deterrent, i.e. deliberately intended to frighten partners. And how can you be frightened by those that no one knows anything about?
      So your feelings are out of place.
    5. Intruder
      Intruder April 3 2021 10: 32
      -2
      it is according to the latest programs for the development and creation of new weapons, and here it is, only the drawings of the finished product remain to be posted on the network
      maybe so, because we need to do a PR company, what the country can and can !? wink
    6. Piramidon
      Piramidon April 3 2021 11: 08
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      and here it is, only the drawings of the finished product remain to be posted on the network! !!

      Well, you had to write such crap. How much information did you get from this article?
    7. BastaKarapuzik And
      BastaKarapuzik And April 3 2021 11: 34
      0
      Here, some demand high-definition video of "Zircon" hitting the target, so that it was like the Americans. And if not, then all these cartoons do not exist.
      That is, we need some kind of golden mean.
  4. andr327
    andr327 April 3 2021 08: 04
    +2
    R&D must be continued, and this is a very costly thing. They called it "Cedar", and as a result of the work, either "Pine" or "Oak" may appear. The only important thing here is that the funds go to research work, and not to sawing.
    It is a pity that we have no engineering competition left now. Rdtt-Solomon and liquid-propellant rocket engine - Makeyevka. But they are not competitors to each other - they are different classes.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder April 3 2021 10: 35
      0
      They called it "Cedar", and as a result of the work, either "Pine" or "Oak" may appear
      "Lumbering", just some !? repeat "Lingonberry" and "Quinoa" ... for variety and concealment for vrazhin specialists ??? lol
  5. URAL72
    URAL72 April 3 2021 08: 07
    +3
    Everything is correct. You need to think about the future. So that later in a hurry not to flog a fever as it was with Bulava. And the funding extended over time makes it possible to deal with other issues.
  6. antivirus
    antivirus April 3 2021 08: 14
    -2
    There are no specifics on the new complex yet, the work has just begun.
    - again no AB. Moremans cry, naval officers silently envy ..
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich April 3 2021 08: 18
      -1
      There are no specifics on the new complex yet, the work has just begun. There are no specifics on the new complex yet, the work has just begun.

      Just like in a joke:
      - I don’t repeat it twice! I do not repeat! But my wife likes it! Like!
    2. Boa kaa
      Boa kaa April 3 2021 15: 51
      0
      Quote: antivirus
      - again no AB. Moremans cry, naval officers silently envy ..
      Well, Kaspersky's mistake, you are wrong here!
      The thing is that the naval ones are generalists: Energy from accumulators and heat engines to electric motors on superconductors! Even the nuclear power plant is, the Electronics (all !!!) is. There are hydroacoustics, meteorology, astronomy, spacecraft and communications of all ranges. Navigation - what a pleasure! Optics - too, laser systems, inertial, gyroscopic ... But I am not talking about weapons at all! From ICBMs to 12,7 mm Cliffs - everything is there !!! Even aviation (albeit frail) is available. Well, what kind of sun can boast of such a thing !?
      Now, the essence of the problem. Cedar is our response to a sharp increase in the capabilities of the American missile defense system. Missile defense maritime borders have appeared, position areas of Euro missile defense have been deployed near our borders. A missile defense space echelon is being developed. All this crap has to be overcome.
      The first way is to reduce OUT. But this requires more energy, which leads to an increase in the weight of the product, the search for new CPT formulations, heat-resistant materials, etc. The "slow" ICBMs with LPRE are in question. Therefore, Sarmat will be located in the center of the camp and will be launched across the continent of Eurasia towards the South Pacific. Fortunately, there is enough energy for such a route. But what awaits her in space, when the Americans make up (and they are working hard on it) the space echelon of missile defense?
      Then you need to follow the path of "quasi-ballistic" inclined trajectories. Or to cross a snake and a hedgehog - launch the diving GB BB according to a random law of maneuvering, up to reaching the target. Then dive down with a shout: - "Yes, it was all a waste !!!"
      Therefore, it is logical to assume that KEDR will be a new word on the second path of development of our missile technology of the Strategic Missile Forces. And the product will be lightweight (tone 50-60, so as not to develop a new chassis for it), with a turbojet engine on a new composite fuel, new combat equipment and a missile defense system ... Brains and software will also match the MVTI and Phystech of the 21st century. One could continue to assume, but what I have stated, for today seems to me the most important. AHA.
      PS If our Kulibins embody CEDR in metal (composites!), Then the States will have to take the following posture: -
      1. antivirus
        antivirus April 3 2021 19: 37
        -1
        for everyone smart from error - I've written many times about:
        what we can - what we do (hand-in the country).
        but there is no money to go to the fleet and we are not pulling our hands competently in that direction. until we establish control over Eurasia and put America under the hood. they periodically turn inside out. we have moved away from the arms race across the entire spectrum into a "guaranteed destruction strike" - the Strategic Missile Forces.
        the fleet is still superfluous in this game.

        again there will be no 10 pcs of AVP for 100 VI.

        read Kaspersky codes. .... strategists.
        is it possible to live if Atrid died?
        I don't have to look in my direction, I mock the sellers of steel and cables and napkins with the names of ships (?) ... and air with the scent of Victory.
        some shoulder straps are small, you need big stars.
        1. Boa kaa
          Boa kaa April 3 2021 20: 39
          -2
          Quote: antivirus
          but there is no money to go to the fleet and we are not pulling our hands competently in that direction. until we establish control of Eurasia and put America under the hood.

          1. Let me remind you "especially smart", but with a short memory: the State program of weapons and modernization - 20 trillion rubles - was allocated to the Fleet. By the time it was the turn of the fleet to deal with iron, the Strategic Missile Forces howled: - Uncle, give me money! And then ours are over ... Yyyyy, crying Putin then asked the naval officers to wait a little, Shoigu supported him. As a result, 98% of the Strategic Missile Forces are on new complexes, and the fleet continues to finish off the BDR / BDRM and the 971st ... I generally keep quiet about the surface forces: there are no turbines, no capacities, diesels and other crap ...
          I said back then: it will be as always - according to the residual principle ... So, in general, it happened ...
          2. Control over EA is established by Comrade. SI. And I must say, very successful.
          3. We cannot put the CA under the hood alone. The size is not the same, we have not yet grown to the scale of the USSR ... And from the 12th place in terms of GDP, you can't fight much against the first (?) Economy in the world. And then NATO got involved ...
          In short, until we tie a double sea knot with the whales, nothing of what you said will happen.
          we have moved away from the arms race across the entire spectrum
          Yeah, ... But I recommend raising your eyes up and looking at the starry sky ... Now SPACE is the arena of our confrontation with the Yankees, and with the whales too ... Only Kashpirovsky's mistake can not see this! laughing
          the fleet is still superfluous in this game.
          I have the impression that as a child you were drowning on a river ... Otherwise, it is difficult to explain such an open dislike for the navy! And nevertheless, where do rpkSNy and APRK SN go? Or is there no place for them in your "case" !? Tady, as they say in Odessa, - OH!
          there will not be 10 AB units of 100 VI each.
          Are you talking about the Yankees or our Navy? We will not be able to pull so much both in finance, and in technology, and in the shipbuilding base ... We need only 3-4 hulls of 60-70 kt VI each. To ensure the combat stability of the naval forces in a limited RBD.
          And the Yankees are not going to give them up. Three more 100-thousanders were ordered. They know for sure: when all airfields and highways will be plowed up, and land aviation will sit firmly on the ruins of the coastal infrastructure, then 7-8 hundred thousandth monsters with their air wings will creep out of the remote regions of the world ocean ... 150 vigorous beaters ... so it won't seem a little, enough for everyone! And the whales, and us, and others, if necessary, will sleep in full measure ... One hope for the SSGNs of a new project, such as the 545 or the 777A nuclear submarine of the project. Well, also the anti-ship missile defense systems, if they remain by that time, and aviation, if they break through to the boundary of the solution of the problem ... Yeah, here ...
          Someone has small shoulder straps - you need big stars.
          If you care about me, it is in vain. These attacks on me, while still in the service, ceased to work, when I had been kapraz for 12 years. And he did not strive for "toy" ones even when he was a major in "turtles". So - by!
          AHA.
          1. antivirus
            antivirus April 3 2021 22: 34
            -1
            and drowned and his feet drove - childhood on Zavodskaya street is such a working outskirts.
            I am not against the fleet - only AGAINST SUCH TRUTHOUS. AND AGAINST AV. they are superfluous now. solely for financial reasons (Siluanova and mentioned).
            And "take out and put me 7 aircraft carriers and 7 UDC" is a Wishlist - the military (pros) will die with the fact that manya gave me from her salary. in other words - WHAT THE PEOPLE AGREE TO MOVE FROM RURAL ROADS AND SCHOOLS AND DR LABUDA.
            everything that does not belong to the navy and the Ministry of Defense is, after all, crap is not necessary for the country?
            I acknowledge at the hands of the country the right to determine what to build AND WHAT AND WHOM TO THROW THROUGH .. WHERE FAR.
            you can sign up for a personal appointment with Isechin or Sivanov and tell them, they will give the GDP, past Shoigu (bad minister? - haha). Because here they will not shout at the Kremlin.
            Calculation of options for what and how much to spend and what they do not on their knees and ... under cognac. I hope you saw me more and know the long and tedious approvals.
            in the beginning of 2003 - "Pots of diesel fuel turntable burns from wall to wall to pass" --- extreme degree of displeasure with such naval gluttony by the designers, the team was on the adjustment of the systems in Murman. Found a buyer - pushed 100 million hours against AV clowns.
            And the lobbyists for rubber - steel and cables - for.
            Are you for the density of auto roads with a grid of 30 km? and new schools instead of wooden ones? Should children and teachers go to warm toilets in rural schools? or to the cesspools? - priority - first, the needy - then -10 pcs AB. sit and wait in line ... bold live hotzza for some.
            do not write to me further - but to the Kremlin.
            1. Boa kaa
              Boa kaa April 4 2021 09: 51
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              Quote: antivirus
              do not write to me further - but to the Kremlin.

              1. antivirus
                antivirus April 4 2021 11: 36
                -1
                brilliantly - I'm standing on the porch. I make a living on this, but in the Kremlin they make decisions for 10 + - billion dollars. on AB, more, nevertheless to them.
              2. antivirus
                antivirus April 5 2021 15: 39
                -1
                about the exchanges of opinions that did not happen ..
                I read about 20 years ago - without an Internet yet-
                - THE NUMBER OF DOCTORS IN THE USSR UP TO THE CENTRAL EUROPEAN LEVEL (what is it? - Czechoslovakia or Italy?) ONLY IN 1979 HAS REACHED. without a difference, for 1 thousand or 100 h of the population.
                now the Russian Federation as with the EU level for doctors?
          2. antivirus
            antivirus April 4 2021 21: 06
            -1
            The fleet was allocated by the State Armament and Modernization Program - 20 trillion rubles

            -the Kremlin's action option-20 trillion for the fleet-is it until the US withdraws from the Pro and the IRSD? after? everything in order. Gradually and consistently led to a revision of the financial plans of all and the answer had to be given in time - and this is not AB and 1st rank - but the "bad" and "compassionate" Strategic Missile Forces.
            life forced them to spit on their feeders (or reconfigure them) and take out naphthalene-BurevesTnik and others from the USSR.
            - in those original 20 trillion were AB?
            -the situation with the outskirts was clear to the hands of the country in 2010? Yanuca corrected it? or just froze?
            and in 2013?
            -Av are needed to fend off threats from the Kohls and their southwestern direction?

            - how to protect Luka? -It is surrounded on three sides by NATO - is it also needed in the Belarusian Sea AB? how much does the loyalty and alliance of the Republic of Belarus cost?

            life forced to abandon the naval view of Eurasia.
            I am neither a strategist nor a tactician. And I asked such questions.



            to what negative temperature can a primary school teacher write in a wooden toilet in the Kirov or Irkutsk regions? is it warmer than winter in the Volgograd region? - not to any!

            They built brick extensions a long time ago, BUT NOT BIOTOILETS - and closed primary schools. dying out .--
            AB - WHAT IS THE MOST NEEDED FOR POPULATION GROWTH IN RUSSIA?
  7. aszzz888
    aszzz888 April 3 2021 08: 41
    0
    He explained that the new Kedr missile system is being created to replace the Yars complexes.
    And it is already clear that in terms of performance characteristics it will be better. Merikatos starts a new campaign to dig deeper bunkers. In order not to get out later. laughing
  8. CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz April 3 2021 09: 23
    +1
    Tozhe dumayu, shto etot Kedr dorabotaniy Rubezh.
  9. Ros 56
    Ros 56 April 3 2021 09: 25
    +2
    Let's cut a RGCh-club out of the Cedar, and as it is sung in the song: oh, oh, a hoot with a club laughing
  10. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock April 3 2021 10: 13
    +3
    Also news to me.
    For good research and development, this should be a permanent state of the design bureau and research institute.
    Engineers must keep abreast of the latest advances in science and technology, and constantly improve their qualifications.
    But when, as a result of these R&D, some clarity about the future appearance appears and a TTZ for ROC is formed, then there will really be a subject for discussion.
  11. SovAr238A
    SovAr238A April 3 2021 10: 58
    -8
    Well, how is that?

    Yars began to be put into service with the Strategic Missile Forces regiments starting in 2011.
    And here Cedar is already planning to replace him.
    Is Yars' service life only 20 years? Total?
    What do they make of Mr. and sticks?
    Does he rot like a UAZ?
    An increase in service life to 40-50 years is considered a normal phenomenon in any army in the world ...
    And even more so in missile units.

    The cut is real.
    1. andr327
      andr327 April 3 2021 11: 20
      +1
      Yars is being chased godlessly. For a very long time he did not see stationary storage facilities, and the motor resource was burned incredibly. Both the Pioneers and Poplars were operated more economically.
      1. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A April 3 2021 18: 50
        -2
        Quote: andr327
        Yars is being chased godlessly. For a very long time he did not see stationary storage facilities, and the motor resource was burned incredibly. Both the Pioneers and Poplars were operated more economically.

        What is the fucking resource of a rocket?
        When using media?
    2. d4rkmesa
      d4rkmesa April 3 2021 11: 27
      +1
      Well, it's not a secret for a long time that Topol and then Yars were originally designed for 15 years of operation, however, they are being "extended" as they can. Chassis repair - any repair plant should be able to do it.
    3. BastaKarapuzik And
      BastaKarapuzik And April 3 2021 11: 37
      +2
      If new technologies appear, they have to be updated willy-nilly. And for 20 years, they have introduced a lot of new things.
    4. Maikcg
      Maikcg April 3 2021 12: 35
      0
      Indeed, sawdust is already pouring out of Minuteman3, but it is still in service. And the b-52 will also outlive commentators.
      1. SovAr238A
        SovAr238A April 3 2021 18: 53
        -1
        Quote: MaikCG
        Indeed, sawdust is already pouring out of Minuteman3, but it is still in service. And the b-52 will also outlive commentators.

        Nothing is falling.
        About fifty tests - no failures.

        And there is no sawdust.

        In the ranks for almost 60 years.
        They do not lose efficiency, because initially there was a margin of safety and a modernization potential.
  12. Phoenix
    Phoenix April 3 2021 11: 10
    +1
    Met on the Internet mentions of OCD Cedar with a warhead like that of the Vanguard. The vanguard performed by PGRK is imba, if mastered.
  13. Old26
    Old26 April 3 2021 15: 26
    +3
    Quote: Thrifty
    and I demand from the state to protect the secrets as it should, and not to spread such "joys for the hunters for our secrets" in the media !!!

    And what was the violation of secrecy? The name of the OCD is actually not SS-certified materials. The fact that it will replace the Topol-MR is also the secret of the polyshenel. What is the violation of secrecy, what do you DEMAND for the state to comply with this regime? There is no army index (secret) yet. And spy mania is your problem (exclusively)

    Quote: hrych
    I'm afraid the Cedar will be the essence of Rubezh, mobile, versatile in range (hello EU and China), compact and BB can be given elements of maneuvering.

    It is written in black and white that this is to replace the Topol-MR. And his performance characteristics are much different from the performance characteristics of "Rubezh"

    Quote: KCA
    The news does not even have a TTZ for a non-existent rocket, what is the secrecy?

    Well, it is not enough that there is still nothing, only the name of the topic. Some people think that this betrayal and even the title of the topic should have the stamp "SS.OV"

    Quote: Piramidon
    Well, you had to write such crap. How much information did you get from this article?

    The amount of information he has is equal to the number of letters in the note laughing

    Quote: CastroRuiz
    Tozhe dumayu, shto etot Kedr dorabotaniy Rubezh.

    In vain you think. Or for such a conclusion the principle of 3P (PPP) was used ??? The note clearly states that Kedr will replace Yars. And the performance characteristics of "Rubezh" are much worse than the performance characteristics of "Yars", because it is impossible to get close performance characteristics of two products, for which the difference in starting weight is almost 40%

    Quote: Jacket in stock
    For good research and development, this should be a permanent state of the design bureau and research institute.

    And so it is. It's just that most likely the results of the research work "Kedr" turned out to be more encouraging than the results of other research projects ...
    Quote: SovAr238A
    Well, how is that?

    Yars began to be put into service with the Strategic Missile Forces regiments starting in 2011.
    And here Cedar is already planning to replace him.
    Is Yars' service life only 20 years? Total?
    What do they make of Mr. and sticks?
    Does he rot like a UAZ?
    An increase in service life to 40-50 years is considered a normal phenomenon in any army in the world ...
    And even more so in missile units.

    The cut is real.

    A bit wrong, KMK. The thing is that Yars is essentially the same, maybe a slightly modernized version of Topol-M. Even the original name of the Yars research project is Topol-MR (most likely it meant Topol-M with MIRV). So we can say that work on the Topol-M project began in the late 80s, and Topol-M began to develop in 1997. So by the beginning of the Kedra deployment, this Topol-M / Topol-MR family will be about 33 years old.
    And for a solid-propellant rocket, a service life of 30-35 years is quite decent

    Quote: andr327
    Yars is being chased godlessly. For a very long time he did not see stationary storage facilities, and the motor resource was burned incredibly. Both the Pioneers and Poplars were operated more economically.

    The service life of the chassis was burned, but not the missiles. And what will happen in the future - the chassis from Minsk or Kamaz - we do not know yet

    Quote: MaikCG
    Indeed, sawdust is already pouring out of Minuteman3, but it is still in service. And the b-52 will also outlive commentators.

    Don't write nonsense about Minuteman. He completed the full LEP program from about 1997 to 2009 - Life Extension. What was included in this program - read on the net for yourself. In fact, after 2009, they have new missiles with the old name.

    Quote: Phoenix
    Met on the Internet mentions of OCD Cedar with a warhead like that of the Vanguard. The vanguard performed by PGRK is imba, if mastered.

    Don't believe it. The OCD itself will start only after 2 years, and the network already mentions the essence of this OCD? laughing
  14. Old26
    Old26 April 4 2021 00: 05
    +3
    Quote: kapitan92
    The rocket is "ancient". They need to be removed, as well as "Voevoda", how long can the warranty period be extended.

    So on alert no NONE UR-100N UTTH. They are used only as carriers of the "Vanguard", and even then in the future in a limited number (12 pieces).
    "Voevods" also in 2017 "thinned out" by a couple of dozen pieces.

    Quote: kapitan92
    It was assumed that the "Vanguard" will be placed on the "Sarmat", but so far it is dull. Another cycle of throws and goos.

    The Ministry of Defense voiced this. But besides throwing, there have been no other tests so far. Even LKI (I am not talking about the state).