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Possible Creator of Ukrainian Nationalism: Austria - the “Gray Eminence” of European Politics

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Possible Creator of Ukrainian Nationalism: Austria - the “Gray Eminence” of European Politics

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When it comes to how the “Ukrainian language”, and the term “Ukraine” itself, suddenly began to actively advance in the space of the Russian Empire, then references go to the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Among historians, there are a considerable number of those who believe that it was precisely certain forces in Austria-Hungary at the end of the XNUMXth century that began to play on the nationalist feelings of individual social groups, from which adherents of "Ukrainianness" began to emerge.

If we assume that this is true, then it turns out that the West, represented by the same Austro-Hungarian Empire, has managed to artificially create “Ukrainianness” and Ukrainian nationalism to weaken the Russian Empire. And this manifests itself to this day, now for the frank opposition of one part of the Russian world - Ukraine - to its other part - Russia.

In addition, there are quite a few historical documents, on the basis of one can talk about the Austrian influence on the Polish elite. In this regard, some historians believe that the Austrian secret services at one time did a lot to cultivate Russophobia, which is still strong in the Polish state.

All this gives reason to say that Austria is a kind of "gray eminence" of European politics, which is often aimed at containing Russia.

The Austrian theme, the theme of Austria's influence on the birth of "Ukrainianness" and Polish Russophobia, is raised on the Den channel, where Igor Shishkin talks with the historian Alexander Makushin in the Historical Club section.

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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 April 2 2021 14: 57
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    Possible Creator of Ukrainian Nationalism: Austria - the “Gray Eminence” of European Politics
    And what about Vienna, the period of the Austro-Hungarian Empire, you will not forget! Even that bastard / Yu \ chnik ... and Russia was hated there to the liver, this is a historical fact.
    1. Machito
      Machito April 2 2021 15: 37
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      Austria-Hungary, with its national policy, signed its own death warrant and sunk into oblivion.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 April 2 2021 15: 40
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        To be so "harmful" for everyone around you ... it is necessary to have nine opportunities for reincarnation! They didn't have one !!!
    2. Dodikson
      Dodikson April 2 2021 16: 09
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      this is genetic, they have a Gaul haplogroup, and those Slavophobes since ancient times, read about the war r1a and r1b. Galicia is a derivative of Gauls. they have it in their blood.
      and the creator of Ukrainian nationalism is not Austria-Hungary, but the Vatican, the Austrians were only a tool, like the United States is now.
  2. Vovk
    Vovk April 2 2021 15: 04
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    The application of the model of unification of territorial communities based on nationalism in modern conditions is to hammer in nails with a smartphone.
    This model immediately became obsolete after the 19th century ... but the brains and means to create a new one are not there.
    That in Poland, that in Ukraine, that in Russia, that in China ... everyone is trying to stretch nationalism as the basis for the unification of peoples as "an owl on the globe." Stupid, shortsighted, stupid ...
    1. Avior
      Avior April 2 2021 16: 02
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      The application of the model of unification of territorial communities based on nationalism in modern conditions is to hammer in nails with a smartphone.

      There is no such model in Ukraine, on the contrary.
      In the Odessa region, the conflict among the Bulgarians is precisely due to the fact that the Bulgarians had in different communities
  3. Aaron Zawi
    Aaron Zawi April 2 2021 15: 18
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    In general, the political concept of Ukraine was already known in the 17th century.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins April 2 2021 15: 40
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      And Ukraine, and language, and culture.
      But all of these historians and assumptions refer only to modern Russia. Ten years ago, no one considered Austria-Hungary the "mother" of Ukraine, and no video was filmed about it.
    2. Dodikson
      Dodikson April 2 2021 16: 10
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      Ukraine is a Polish word meaning "outskirts".
  4. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich April 2 2021 15: 43
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    Well, now, you see, Austria is to blame. Everything is much simpler. Ukraine, greedy, Maidan.
    1. Dodikson
      Dodikson April 2 2021 16: 11
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      no, Ukraine is a cursed land, on it the Russians went crazy and began to consider themselves a separate people.
      this history is thousands of years old, it was still the Scythians who sensed on themselves when they began to Hellenize
  5. nikvic46
    nikvic46 April 2 2021 16: 14
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    You could just as well tie Sweden up to this question. The very name Mazepa says a lot. I think this is the private opinion of the participants in the video.
  6. Shiden
    Shiden April 2 2021 16: 48
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    I have not yet heard any greater nonsense, and these historians-scribblers wrote a dissertation on the correct dissertation on some historical topic. Austria-Hungary, like the Russian Empire, was a lot of a national country, although they differed in that Russia issued decrees banning national languages. To what they are already letting the Belarusian language down, they also invented insanity in the Austrian General Staff. And they believe such grief to historians.
    1. Dart2027
      Dart2027 April 2 2021 18: 44
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      Quote: Shiden
      I haven't heard any more delirium

      An inconvenient truth.
      1. Shiden
        Shiden April 2 2021 19: 49
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        What is the truth Kotlyarevsky wrote "Aeneid" when there was no trace of Austria-Hungary, Austria was but Austria-Hungary was not. And is it true that Western Belarus did not go to Austria-Hungary, but these grief historians You are being told that she was. Tell me, you believe that the Czechs are an artificially created people, language, culture.
        Quote: Dart2027
        An inconvenient truth.

        Well, then you must agree that in Russia there are no such peoples as Tatars, Bashkirs, Tuvans, Kalmyks, Udmurts, Chuvash and many others, there are only Russians. By your logic.
        1. Dart2027
          Dart2027 April 2 2021 23: 11
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          Quote: Shiden
          What is the truth Kotlyarevsky wrote "Aeneid"

          Virgil wrote the Aeneid, and Kotlyarevsky translated it into the Little Russian dialect.
          Quote: Shiden
          in Russia there are no such peoples as

          These peoples just exist, but there are no Ukrainians, there are Russians.
  7. iouris
    iouris April 2 2021 18: 39
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    Wilhelm Franz of Habsburg-Lorraine, known under the pseudonym Vasyl Vyshyvaniy (German Wilhelm Franz von Habsburg-Lothringen, Ukrainian. Vasyl Vishivany; February 10, 1895, Pula, Istria County - August 18, 1948 or 1954, Kiev) - Archduke of Austria-Hungary, son of Karl Stephen from the Teshin branch of the House of Habsburgs and Maria Theresa of Tuscan-Austrian, from the Tuscan branch of the same family. Known mainly as a failed candidate for the throne of Ukraine.
  8. Jaromir
    Jaromir April 2 2021 21: 54
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    the theme of Austria's influence on the birth of "Ukrainianness" and Polish Russophobia

    The Austro-Imperials influenced Ukrainian nationalism very strongly. But they had little effect on Polish Russophobia. The main reason for the emergence of Russophobia among the Poles is Catholicism and the Polish gentry with their Sarmatianism. yes
    1. iouris
      iouris April 3 2021 10: 52
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      Galicia is not Ukraine. Ukraine is Russia. Highlight the causes of Russophobia in Russia, bitte (pliz).
      1. Jaromir
        Jaromir April 3 2021 15: 46
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        Quote: iouris
        Galicia is not Ukraine.

        Controversial issue. Moreover, the "Galicians" consider themselves Ukrainians.
        Quote: iouris
        Ukraine is Russia

        And Kazakhstan?
        Quote: iouris
        Highlight the causes of Russophobia in Russia

        I have not met this
        Quote: iouris
        bitte (pliz)

        And in Russian nothing?