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The Ukrainian press called the training of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the installation of a minefield "a barrier in front of the tanks of the Russian Federation"

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In Ukraine, any training of troops, even planned and quite ordinary, is usually designated as "a stage in the confrontation with Russia." Often the word "confrontation" is replaced by the word "war", which, apparently, should give additional informational meaning to army training in the armed forces of Ukraine.


As a result, it turns out that they even managed to connect the minefield training with Russia.

In the Ukrainian press, the installation of a three-row minefield by the servicemen of the engineering brigade of the Armed Forces of Ukraine was called "a barrier in front of tanks RF ". This interpretation was proposed by the Ukrainian portal Defense Express.



For the installation of mines, such military equipment as the PMZ-4 (trailed minelayer of Soviet development) was used.

From the report:

Two mobile obstacle detachments set up a three-row anti-tank minefield. Particular attention is paid to the deployment and equipping of the command post. The military practiced changing operating frequencies in compliance with the rules of covert command and control of troops. The use of electronic equipment has been reduced to a minimum.


Judging by the published photos, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are expecting "tanks of the Russian Federation" exclusively on flat terrain, where Ukrainian troops will "meet the tanks fully armed."

In this regard, it is necessary to turn to the Ukrainian servicemen: the main thing is that they themselves do not forget where they planted the mines, if there are combat mines among them.
Photos used:
Ukrainian portal Army Inform, Facebook / 28th Ombr of the Armed Forces of Ukraine
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  1. rocket757
    rocket757 30 March 2021 15: 44
    +5
    The Ukrainian press called the training of the Armed Forces of Ukraine on the installation of a minefield "a barrier in front of the tanks of the Russian Federation"
    Themselves and "plunge" ... for the first time, or something.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 30 March 2021 15: 58
      +7
      For the installation of mines, such military equipment as the PMZ-4 (trailed minelayer of Soviet development) was used.


      Yes ... I had to somehow hug TM-ki in "optional classes" ... On the parade ground, "under the ruler", everything in a row - "at two" ... Beauty good lol

      But when it came to a real mine setting, then the full-time sappers and "freelancers", with "pancakes" on their belly, everything is crawling wassat
      That's what was lucky, so that anti-tank ones did not have to be installed.

      This does not mean, of course, that there are no self-propelled and trailed minelayers, but who will drive them under fire?
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 March 2021 17: 29
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      Themselves and "plunge" ... for the first time, or something.

      Do not dig a hole for another, you will blow yourself up.
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 30 March 2021 17: 40
        +3
        Quote: tihonmarine
        Do not dig a hole for another, you will blow yourself up.


        This is exactly yes ... Here's the data:

        Four Ukrainian armed forces, allegedly killed as a result of shelling by the DPR forces in the area of ​​the village of Shumy, were actually blown up by mines during a "practical training" on mine safety. Among them are a lieutenant colonel of the 143rd demining center and 3 soldiers of the 10th brigade.

        The list of "innocently killed by separatist terrorists occupying":

        1.p / p-koval (143rd demining center)
        2. Abramovich (10th General Staff Brigade "Edelweiss")
        3. Barnich (10th General Staff Brigade "Edelweiss")
        4. Gaichenko (10th General Staff Brigade "Edelweiss")







        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 30 March 2021 17: 51
          +1
          Quote: Insurgent
          The list of "innocently killed by separatist terrorists occupying":

          These got theirs from themselves.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 30 March 2021 17: 54
            +2
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: Insurgent
            The list of "innocently killed by separatist terrorists occupying":

            These got theirs from themselves.


            So it was me who was joking yes

            After all, CAM the clown-vaseline announced that they were killed by a dastardly shelling, to which the Armed Forces of Ukraine was not slow to "respond" ...
  2. Gunner
    Gunner 30 March 2021 15: 48
    +1
    And if Russia applies only aviation then SCHO?
    1. NEOZ
      NEOZ 30 March 2021 15: 49
      -5
      Quote: Gunner
      will apply only aviation then SCHO?

      air defense exercises were earlier ...
      1. loki565
        loki565 30 March 2021 15: 57
        +1
        air defense exercises were earlier ...

        So the shpien who tried to transport the C300 parts was caught, the exercises failed)))
      2. Insurgent
        Insurgent 30 March 2021 16: 28
        +2
        Quote: NEOZ
        air defense exercises were earlier ...

        And it's good that they were. good
        The "interested party" added fresh data on the characteristics of the dill air defense radar systems, their knowledge about it ...
    2. figwam
      figwam 30 March 2021 16: 02
      +2
      Quote: Gunner
      And if Russia applies only aviation

      Russia will use missiles, and after that, aviation.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 March 2021 17: 29
      +1
      Quote: Gunner
      And if Russia applies only aviation then SCHO?

      And for what us ???
  3. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 30 March 2021 15: 51
    0
    Well, France in the years of the Cold War, once on the border with the FRG, built wells for nuclear bombs against the tanks of the SA and the ATS countries ...
  4. Ros 56
    Ros 56 30 March 2021 15: 55
    +2
    These Bandera clowns themselves will be blown up there later. We swam, we know. But against our Serpents Gorynychy will not help.
  5. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 30 March 2021 15: 57
    +2
    laughing Yes, blow yourself up on your mines yourself laughing
    1. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 30 March 2021 16: 45
      +2
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      laughing Yes, blow yourself up on your mines yourself laughing

      Duc this event takes place there on a regular basis. As the rotation passes, the fireworks with the flights of boots and helmets begin, because cards with minefields are not transferred to each other.
      1. Shiden
        Shiden 30 March 2021 18: 25
        0
        Dmitry, I want to ask you, you participated in the hostilities. If you did not participate, there is nothing to repeat the sofa experts who may have graduated from a military school, they know the combat regulations and instructions, but in reality it is not at all like this.
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 30 March 2021 18: 40
          +1
          Quote: Shiden
          there is nothing to repeat the sofa experts who may have graduated from a military school, know the combat regulations and instructions, but in reality it is not at all like this.

          Immediately and couch experts? The Ukrainian side itself confirmed the deaths of its own military units on its own mines due to the fact that initially there was a lot of mines there, all sorts of right-wing people, national guardsmen, vsechniks, not bothering too much with drawing minefields on the map. Information was also sounded that there were cases when their predecessors offered to redeem these cards for money. In this case, I cannot say with 100% certainty that this was the case, but given the Ukrainian peculiarity of "buy and sell" and the desire to make money on anything, I am inclined to believe that such a thing had its revenge.
          1. Shiden
            Shiden 30 March 2021 19: 26
            0
            Journalists can write whatever they want. As you imagine, on the front end, draw an accurate map of laying mines, because first they shoot there and then they see what kind of movement was. During rotation, landmarks are usually indicated where the mine-dangerous areas are.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 30 March 2021 17: 31
      0
      Quote: Gennady Fomkin
      Yes, blow yourself up on your mines yourself

      Again funerals will arrive for mothers. And all for some unfinished politicians.
    3. NKT
      NKT 31 March 2021 07: 55
      0
      The main thing now for them is not to lose the card.
  6. TRex
    TRex 30 March 2021 15: 59
    +1
    PMZ-4 .... Ha .... I remember I was a cadet in the 70s - even then he seemed like a kind of anachronism. How many years has he been in service?
    By the way, they install TM-62 mines without fuses, with a mining step of 5,5 meters, according to a simplified scheme (unloading onto the ground). In theory, after the installation of mines, only an inconspicuous seam remains on the ground.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 30 March 2021 16: 13
      +5
      Quote: TRex
      By the way, they install TM-62 mines without fuses, with a mining step of 5,5 meters, according to a simplified scheme (unloading onto the ground).

      Without fuses, apparently - "so that nothing happens." Teachings after all. And in combat, fuses will be entrusted later.

      Worse, when, due to inexperience and lack of knowledge, in the 14th in the area of ​​the Yasinovatsky checkpoint (YaBP) mines were placed with training fuses , and then stunnedly watched as the Ukrop tank and BMP crush the TM-62 ...

      A petty, inconspicuous WHITE STRIP ...

      1. svp67
        svp67 30 March 2021 16: 38
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        A petty, inconspicuous WHITE STRIP ...

        As I understand it, it was really bad with the specialists there. There, in general, there is a big black letter "U" in the title.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 30 March 2021 17: 00
          +4
          Quote: svp67
          As I understand it, it was really bad with the specialists there. There, in general, there is a big black letter "U" in the title.

          Specialists what ... When the battalion commander (!!!), who later became the brigade commander (!!! wassat ), said near Krasnogorovka in 2014 that the "Strela" (MANPADS) was not intended to destroy helicopters, and the company commander of another unit taught the fighters that it was impossible to fire from the PK (M) "lifting the barrel", that is, upward - then YES yes "LEVEL" laughing

          Because of such, as I call them - "gentlemen-officers", I had to learn everything on my own. Therefore, I know relatively much about specific things, "a simple machine gunner does not need"
          He studied himself and taught others. Because there was no hope for such commanders, "foam".

          "SALVATION OF THE DROWNERS, THE CASE OF THE DROLLING ONES"
  7. svp67
    svp67 30 March 2021 16: 12
    +1
    For the installation of mines, such military equipment as the PMZ-4 (trailed minelayer of Soviet development) was used.
    When he has new and well-sharpened plowshares, then the mines and you will not see, but here they are set by the throwing method.
    And yet, a photo of a Ukrainian soldier, in all its glory ... This is some kind of direct symbol of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. Well, why does he need an old Soviet pouch, when there is so much ammunition on it, there seems to be a place for shops there ...
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 30 March 2021 16: 32
      +2
      With the world on a string ...
    2. Insurgent
      Insurgent 30 March 2021 16: 41
      +1
      Quote: svp67
      When he has new and well-sharpened plowshares, then the mines and you will not see, but here they are set by the throwing method.

      Yes, even if on top, by "throwing", even open on the asphalt, as we have on the same site - a tanker, if he notices mines, competently and "often densely" installed - will stop ...

      So what is next what ... Then everything depends on the readiness to burn the lingering equipment of those who serve in the position ...
      Taking into account, of course, the presence of TCP and preparation of drugs.
      1. svp67
        svp67 30 March 2021 16: 43
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        Yes, even if on top, by "throwing", even open on the asphalt, as we have on the same site - a tanker, if he notices mines, competently and "often densely" installed - will stop ...

        This is if he does not have a trawl.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 30 March 2021 16: 46
          +3
          Quote: svp67

          This is if he does not have a trawl.


          This is if, in addition to mines, there are no RC blocks on the road. repeat ...

          In 2015, Ukropskaya 64 got stuck on such a block while trying to break into the airport. Climbed up and "took off her shoes" on the block ... The crew escaped laughing

          And the trawl ... it will thunder on the asphalt wassat , in the center of Donetsk will be heard.
          1. svp67
            svp67 30 March 2021 17: 40
            0
            Quote: Insurgent
            It will thunder on the asphalt

            Knife?
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 30 March 2021 17: 44
              +1
              Quote: svp67
              Knife?

              That's it yes "Chirk" on the asphalt will be the only way. It is not intended for this ...
              1. svp67
                svp67 30 March 2021 18: 03
                0
                Quote: Insurgent
                "Chirk" on the asphalt will be the only way. It is not intended for this ...

                The main thing for him is to throw mines off the track ...
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 30 March 2021 18: 11
                  +1
                  Quote: svp67
                  The main thing for him is to throw mines off the track ...

                  He still the main thing is to get there to mines, with a trawl. And I repeat - asphalt is not the element of a knife trawl ...

                  And in general, tanks will move only when, after artillery processing, it is considered that our positions are suppressed.

                  BUT ... But only if they manage to keep the preparations for the offensive in secret ...
                  After all, it can happen as on the Kursk Bulge, with the bewilderment of a nemchura: "Are we attacking, or are we Russians? "

                  Now we can already say that the information is outdated, that a couple of weeks ago everything was buzzing about the offensive, my ex-colleague was released on dismissal , with "first line".

                  That is, "those who need it" know something ...
  8. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 30 March 2021 16: 16
    +4
    And if Russia once again does not come to the "war"? .. And so the bastards, stir up interethnic strife, which, in principle, is characteristic of bourgeois nationalist states.
  9. Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash 30 March 2021 16: 23
    0
    Of the Human race! (Satnovsky) I agree completely!
    1. Sasha from Uralmash
      Sasha from Uralmash 30 March 2021 16: 24
      0
      WAS WRITTEN ORIGINALLY! Y ..... PO ,,,,,, dY!
  10. Prisoner
    Prisoner 30 March 2021 16: 33
    +2
    There are probably no Soviet miners left in the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but you have probably heard about Meteorite. Whom will their mines stop if there is an order? And they definitely undermine themselves. Their tradition is to ride drunken mines.
  11. Ruslan Sulima
    Ruslan Sulima 30 March 2021 18: 55
    0
    Is their land mined or in our Donbass?
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  13. tolmachiev51
    tolmachiev51 31 March 2021 03: 48
    0
    So far not a single tank of the "aggressor" has been blown up, but there are about a dozen of our own skakuas! It looks like they are being mined against their own.
  14. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 31 March 2021 07: 00
    -1
    Considering the national specifics of this army, Minefield Maps are their additional income.)