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Armenian Security Council Secretary urged to reconsider relations with Turkey

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Armen Grigoryan, secretary of the Armenian Security Council, called for a reconsideration of relations with Turkey. In this case, it will be possible to unblock transport communications.


The official made this statement on the air of the Public Television of Armenia.

Grigoryan urged to stop considering Turkey an enemy, as it is written in the national security strategy, and to resume dialogue with it, since after the Karabakh war the political situation in Transcaucasia has undergone significant changes. At the same time, he does not claim that Ankara does not threaten Armenia in any way, but, in his words, “the processes in the region provide other opportunities as well”.

The release should be not only with Azerbaijan, but also in a broader regional context, and there are prerequisites for this.

- he said, probably referring to the fact that the borders between Turkey and Armenia have been closed since 1993.

And although Grigoryan proposes to improve relations with Ankara and Baku, he prefers that these processes take place under the supervision and protection of the Russian peacekeeping contingent. He believes that after the end of the agreed five-year period, the Russian peacekeepers should not leave Nagorno-Karabakh.

It is difficult to say what will happen in five years, but our steps are aimed at ensuring that they remain ... On our agenda, so that they remain for a long time.

- considers the Secretary of the Security Council of Armenia.
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  1. iouris
    iouris 28 March 2021 17: 21
    0
    Well, I said that Armenia is going to the "Turkish world". The people are nravitstsa!
    1. Shurik70
      Shurik70 28 March 2021 17: 29
      -2
      Anyway, it's better than war.
      Moreover, at the borders of Russia.
      And if they manage to tie the neighbors in a mutually beneficial business, this can only be welcomed.
      It is important for Russia, as a mediator, to have its own benefit in this matter, and not "as usual" - for thanks
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha 28 March 2021 17: 34
        +1
        Hello to the fifth column! Viva, Armenia, you just go somewhere wrong
        1. Overlock
          Overlock 28 March 2021 22: 21
          +23
          Quote: Mitroha
          Viva, Armenia, you just go somewhere wrong

          Probably, Armenia knows better!
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 28 March 2021 17: 45
        +6
        Quote: Shurik70
        Anyway, it's better than war.
        Moreover, at the borders of Russia.

        From the point of view of the Russian Federation, yes. I don't know how the Armenian nationalists who may come to power in the RA after Pashinyan will react to this ...
        And if they manage to tie the neighbors in a mutually beneficial business, this can only be welcomed.

        How? All big business in the RA rests on Russian investments, and there are no other investors there ... if only the trade with Iran will increase, but the ownership of the Sinyuk region is questionable ...
        It is important for Russia, as a mediator, to have its own benefit in this matter, and not "as usual" - for thanks

        What benefit has the Russian Federation received over the past 30 years from the fact that the entire Republic of Armenia exists thanks to the Russian Federation?
        They burn Russian flags and call us invaders, maybe worse ...
        1. Shurik70
          Shurik70 28 March 2021 17: 53
          -4
          Quote: Lara Croft
          All big business in Armenia is supported by Russian investments

          Armenia is in the center of the region with excellent conditions for agriculture, tourism and transit of goods. It is with these directions that we must start.
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 28 March 2021 18: 19
            +3
            Quote: Shurik70
            Armenia in the center of a region with excellent agricultural conditions,

            Really?
            There is no developed agriculture in the country that can satisfy the needs of at least one Russian region, no potential, no hopes for development. Strategic partnership alone is not enough. And Armenia today is not even able to feed itself.
            However, many in Armenia understand that it is not about politics at all, but about the very practical benefit. How to trade with a country where agriculture died along with the Soviet regime, and the new government was unable to rectify the situation?

            https://news.day.az/politics/934502.html
            There are 513 thousand hectares of agricultural land in the republic. Of these, farm land to be cultivated is 389 thousand. These are gardens and fields (not counting high-altitude pastures, where sowing and plowing are not carried out). But of these 389 thousand, about 220 are cultivated, and at best half are irrigated.

            Read more: https://ru.armeniasputnik.am/economy/20191209/21301151/Armyanskaya-revolyutsiya-doydet-do-korov-i-pomidorov-fermeram-nado-znat-plany-na-2020-god.html
            tourism

            Turks and Azerbaijanis will not go there, Georgians, to put it mildly, are not so rich, while Persians and Russians themselves have enough such places, and the logistics are expensive ...
            Tourist business in Armenia continues to suffer losses without foreign tourists, "Khabar 24" correspondent reports. The coronavirus has ruined the 2020 winter, spring and summer seasons and is likely to hit the sector next year as well.

            Source: https://24.kz/ru/news/in-the-world/item/422415-turisticheskij-biznes-armenii-vyzhivaet-kak-mozhet
            Oldanylғan materialdarғa mindetti tүrde www.24.kz websites on hyperlinks
            transit of goods

            So for the sake of the development of transport and pipeline infrastructure, the war for the NKR and adjacent districts was started ...
            It is with these directions that we must start.

            Who?
            1. Shurik70
              Shurik70 28 March 2021 18: 56
              -2
              Quote: Lara Croft
              Who?

              No one, except the Armenians themselves, will build a rich and prosperous Armenia.
              And as for the collapse of everything, you have to start somewhere.
              Armenia has a huge potential due to its geographic location.
              It is naive to hope that the help will be eternal. And it is not beneficial to anyone.
              1. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft 28 March 2021 19: 15
                +2
                Quote: Shurik70
                No one, except the Armenians themselves, will build a rich and prosperous Armenia.

                So 30 has passed since the collapse of the Union, and no one itches. Everyone who is a member of the EAU (except Kazakhstan) for some reason thinks that the Russian Federation should do everything for them ...
                Armenia has a huge potential due to its geographic location.

                If you think so, then both Bhutan and Nepal must be fabulously rich countries ...
                It is naive to hope that the help will be eternal. And it is not beneficial to anyone.

                Sorosets speculate on this, like it's no use talking to the Russian Federation, go to our service, but for this you need to give up your national interests ..., and the people believe, they think, you can continue to do nothing to us all to the EU and the USA will give, and the Russian Federation needs to be driven into the neck ...
              2. venik
                venik 28 March 2021 19: 43
                +4
                Quote: Shurik70
                Armenia has a huge potential due to its geographic location.

                =======
                Great potential? belay Alexander, have you ever been to Armenia? Apparently not! They are themselves food provide can not! There is also arable land - NO !!! Well, almost not!
                1. Shurik70
                  Shurik70 28 March 2021 21: 34
                  -2
                  Quote: venik
                  There is NO arable land there!

                  The same grapes and fruit trees are beautiful without plowing, they grow on the slopes.
                  And apples from Armenia are much tastier than Polish ones.
                  1. venik
                    venik 28 March 2021 21: 42
                    +3
                    Quote: Shurik70
                    The same grapes and fruit trees are beautiful without plowing, they grow on the slopes.
                    And apples from Armenia are much tastier than Polish ones.

                    ======
                    Will you chew grapes instead of meat, porridge and potatoes? No, my friend will not be full of grapes and apples!
                    1. Shurik70
                      Shurik70 28 March 2021 22: 17
                      -1
                      Quote: venik
                      you won't be full of grapes and apples

                      But this is not a reason NOT TO DO ANYTHING.
                2. Runway
                  Runway 28 March 2021 23: 01
                  +1
                  RF in a similar situation (in terms of food security).
                  In which direction Armenia is heading - for the second time. Its enclave location, as a theoretical foothold / foreground, has long been a "minus" and not a "plus" of our politeness in the Transcaucasus.
          2. Krasnodar
            Krasnodar 28 March 2021 20: 42
            +2
            Quote: Shurik70
            Quote: Lara Croft
            All big business in Armenia is supported by Russian investments

            Armenia is in the center of the region with excellent conditions for agriculture, tourism and transit of goods. It is with these directions that we must start.

            For agriculture? Only if with Israeli technology and Chinese hard work
          3. Overlock
            Overlock 28 March 2021 22: 22
            +21
            Quote: Shurik70
            It is with these directions that we must start.

            Who should start? Armenians or us? If they haven't started for 30 years, then they don't need
      3. knn54
        knn54 28 March 2021 17: 51
        +2
        "Neighbor" and not a friend., And not an enemy. But as?
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        2. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 28 March 2021 18: 02
          -2
          Quote: knn54
          "Neighbor" and not a friend., And not an enemy. But as?

          Immediately I remembered the song of V. Vysotsky from the film "Height" ....
          1. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 29 March 2021 23: 46
            0
            Quote: Lara Croft
            Immediately I remembered the song of V. Vysotsky from the film "Height" ..

            I love people who lack vertebrae in their spine -

          2. DED_peer_DED
            DED_peer_DED 29 March 2021 23: 55
            -1
            I myself usually do not like to look at people from above. Not worthy.
            Better to hit from below and without looking into the eyes. The effectiveness will be higher.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 28 March 2021 17: 53
      -1
      There is common sense in his words, I think it will not be just words.
    3. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 28 March 2021 17: 57
      +3
      Quote: iouris
      Well, I said that Armenia is going to the "Turkish world". The people are nravitstsa!

      What does it have to do with it?
      Economic cooperation between Armenia and Turkey does not at all mean infringement of the interests of Armenia and Russia. Russia even benefits from the opening of transport corridors in this region. Moreover, this is a blow to the economy of proud Georgians.
      1. Victor Tsenin
        Victor Tsenin 28 March 2021 18: 07
        +2
        Well, how does it not mean that more Turkish goods and services = fewer Russian goods and services. The dissonance in the news is more surprising, i.e. Soros merged the operation and the NKR, and now they are broadcasting that the TR, which helped Azerbaijan in every possible way, is not an opponent. Wonders of logic, made in YUESEI.
      2. Overlock
        Overlock 28 March 2021 22: 28
        +23
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Moreover, this is a blow to the economy of proud Georgians.

        And here are the Georgians!
        Quote: Krasnoyarsk
        Russia even benefits from the opening of transport corridors in this region.

        And especially to Azerbaijan and Turkey and Kazakhstan! Everything for the "Army of Turan"!
        1. Krasnoyarsk
          Krasnoyarsk 29 March 2021 00: 02
          0
          Quote: Overlock
          And here are the Georgians!

          Decrease, if not stop altogether, transport flows through Georgia.
          Quote: Overlock
          And especially to Azerbaijan and Turkey and Kazakhstan! Everything for "Army of Turan"

          Especially for Russia for trade with Iran.
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  2. Anzhey V.
    Anzhey V. 28 March 2021 17: 25
    +6
    The Armenians have a very comfortable position - you Russians, defend us at your own expense, act as a barrier, and in the meantime we will establish relations with our neighbors, from whom we have gotten rid of. True, you won't get anything from this, and we don't want to be allies, but ...
    1. GMT-ZHEL
      GMT-ZHEL 28 March 2021 17: 30
      +3
      This is how Russia itself proposes to unblock transport corridors. And without the normalization of relations, this is not possible.
      1. Anzhey V.
        Anzhey V. 28 March 2021 17: 40
        +8
        I agree with this, and this is undoubtedly reasonable in the first place for Russia - why should we have a potential "hot spot" in the Transcaucasus?

        I am only a little touched by the hypocrisy of the Armenians, who, when necessary, shake the invaders away with transporters, and after a couple of years we are their best friends.

        The only problem is that they do not value this friendship anyway.
        1. GMT-ZHEL
          GMT-ZHEL 28 March 2021 17: 50
          +1
          This is a small bunch of people living on Western grants. In general, most of the population of Armenia has an extremely positive attitude towards Russia. The presence of opposition is a sign of democracy))
          1. gsev
            gsev 29 March 2021 01: 01
            0
            Quote: GMT-ZHEL
            This is a small bunch of people living on Western grants. In general, most of the population of Armenia has an extremely positive attitude towards Russia.

            Currently, Pashinyan's party has managed to spoil relations within the Armenian people themselves. There is a pronounced antagonism between the foreign Armenian diaspora, the Armenian population of the Nagorno-Karabakh Republic and the Armenians of Armenia proper. Against this background, Pashinyan's anti-Russian actions with burning Russian flags or voicing fakes about the unusability of Russian weapons at the time Russian representatives are negotiating the sale of these weapons to a Middle Eastern country do not look surprising. Now it is not clear what the priorities of the politicians and the elite of the Armenian state are. Perhaps they are satisfied with the current state of affairs, when from all over the world the Armenian communities send to the funds controlled by the government of Armenia, and in fact Pashinyan personally, multibillion-dollar sums. It seems that the Armenians sent about 300 billion rubles from Russia to Pashinyan after the start of the October war over Nagorno-Karabakh. As far as I know, Pashinyan did not spend the lion's share of this money for military purposes, and it was from these funds that he paid and pays for the activities of his supporters during the post-war political crisis.
  3. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 28 March 2021 17: 31
    -2
    A statement of this level was probably agreed with Pashinyan, and probably with someone else more serious, but how will the Armenians who have lost their loved ones in Nagorno-Karabakh perceive it? Here and not far from the new revolution
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 28 March 2021 17: 57
      -3
      Quote: CommanderDIVA
      A statement of this level was probably agreed with Pashinyan, and probably with someone else more serious,

      And why does Pashinyan need this on the eve of his departure and preparation for new elections?
      Who is more serious if the secretary of the National Security Service of the Republic of Armenia reports directly to the Chairman of the National Security Service of the Republic of Armenia - Pashinyan?
      https://www.seco.am/security_council/members?lang=ru
      Regarding Grigoryan himself (secretary of the National Security Service of the Republic of Armenia):
      During an interview with Petros Ghazaryan, Secretary of the Security Council of Armenia Armen Grigoryan commented on the issue of whether Turkey is an enemy state for Armenia, noting that Armenia should correct its approach on this issue. He managed to avoid a direct answer to this question three times.

      https://yerkramas.org/article/181221/sekretar-soveta-bezopasnosti-armenii---yavnyj-predatel-video
      I think there is a competition among Soros rats now for getting a "piece of sugar" from the owner ....
  4. svp67
    svp67 28 March 2021 17: 31
    +7
    Grigoryan urged to stop considering Turkey an enemy
    This is not enough for Turkey. It will demand a refusal to recognize the Armenian genocide in the Ottoman Empire.
    1. Mitroha
      Mitroha 28 March 2021 17: 36
      0
      Quote: svp67
      Grigoryan urged to stop considering Turkey an enemy
      This is not enough for Turkey. It will demand a refusal to recognize the Armenian genocide in the Ottoman Empire.

      I THINK HERE A PLANT OF THE PASLENOV FAMILY IN THE WHOLE THROAT. At least here the Armenians, as I believe, have some kind of cutoff
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 28 March 2021 18: 12
    +1
    Shaw here to discuss ... the Great Country / Empire is gone, as a result, the outskirts are where ...
    A common occurrence, all the thugs / who are now proud, independent, will go under the authority of another ...
    it was, is and will be ALWAYS !!!
  6. oppozite28
    oppozite28 28 March 2021 18: 16
    0
    It is difficult to say what will happen in five years, but our steps are aimed at ensuring that they remain ... On our agenda, so that they remain for a long time.
    Armen Grigoryan probably means fierce, frantic, indigenous, to the core patriots of Armenia (such as Pashinyan) indicating in interviews that they remain on the agenda for a long time. lol
  7. Anar
    Anar 28 March 2021 18: 51
    -1
    For a country to develop, it must be friends at least with its neighbors, the richer and larger they are than the country itself. Huddled in a corner and at enmity with others does not go far. Now they are doing the right approach and should have done it for a long time. In 30 years, the region could develop at least to the level of the Baltics. And now, in real life, a return to the 90th.
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 28 March 2021 20: 18
      -1
      Quote: Anar
      For a country to develop, it must be friends at least with its neighbors, the richer and larger they are than the country itself.

      Definitely, but the size of the country doesn't matter.
      Now they are doing the right approach and should have done it for a long time.

      Who hindered?
      In 30 years, the region could develop at least to the level of the Baltics.

      An unfortunate comparison, there for 30 years, only a drop in industrial production, a deterioration in economic indicators and emigration of the population to the EU ...
      Thanks to the RF, the RA still has some production and stagnation of the economy, this little RF can keep RA from falling into an economic abyss, the RF will not invest its last money in RA, it has enough problems of its own, the Armenians themselves cannot make any strategic changes, Therefore, Pashinyan came to power on shouts that there was no sense in the Russian Federation, it was not necessary to work on our own, but the good West would help us, of course, everyone supported him, like you don’t need to do anything, hai RF and listen to what the West says. ...
  8. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 28 March 2021 19: 23
    0
    Yes, Armenia fell into classical zugzwang.
    No matter how 1915 repeats itself.
  9. evgen1221
    evgen1221 28 March 2021 19: 29
    +1
    There are few options for the Armenians to somehow economically raise their territory, they are mostly realistic - to join the whole country as a part of some strong neighbor, Russia, Turkey, Iran.
    1. Petr Vladimirovich
      Petr Vladimirovich 28 March 2021 19: 56
      +3
      Nobody will take, with all due respect, just as unnecessary ...
      1. evgen1221
        evgen1221 28 March 2021 21: 14
        0
        Now, yes, no one really needs them, but as a territory for influence or resettlement in the distant future, it is quite an option, although it is not a fact that the Armenians will physically live up to that.))
  10. lopvlad
    lopvlad 28 March 2021 19: 38
    0
    The Armenian government is driving the Armenians like sheep under the knives of the Turkish janissaries.
  11. Ural resident
    Ural resident 28 March 2021 19: 52
    +2
    Surprisingly, at first the United States demonstrated how it can make the bombed enemy an ally, now Turkey is demonstrating a clear transfer of an angry enemy into the category of neutrals, and then apparently an ally. But we have not fought with anyone, but we still consider them enemies. Here are examples of soft power.
    1. cat Rusich
      cat Rusich 28 March 2021 23: 53
      +1
      Quote: A resident of the Urals
      But we have not fought with anyone, but we still consider them enemies. Here are examples of soft power.
      Neither Turkey, nor the USA, or politics have such phrases -
      mutually beneficial trade
      brotherly people
      good neighborly relations
  12. Woland
    Woland 28 March 2021 22: 35
    0
    And what can you do for money!
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