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Gazprom ruled out revision of contract with Ukraine on gas transit to Europe

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Gazprom ruled out revision of contract with Ukraine on gas transit to Europe

Russia will not revise the gas transit contract with Ukraine; Gazprom ruled out any changes to the existing agreement. This was stated by the head of the board of directors of Gazprom Viktor Zubkov.


Answering the relevant question from journalists, Zubkov explained that at present there is a valid gas transit agreement between Russia and Ukraine, it will not be revised. For Gazprom, the main thing now is to complete the construction of Nord Stream-2 and supply the volumes of gas stipulated by the agreement through the Ukrainian territory.

Of course I think not

- he added.

Commenting on the situation with the Nord Stream 2 under construction, Zubkov said that the construction of the gas pipeline will be completed this year. At the moment, the project is 90-92% complete.

The work is actively underway, there are very few left, I think (readiness - approx.), 90-92 percent

- he explained.

Recall that at the end of 2019, Gazprom and Ukraine signed a new agreement on the continuation of gas transit through the Ukrainian GTS for a period of five years. According to the agreement, Gazprom guarantees the pumping of 65 billion cubic meters of gas in the first year and 40 billion in the next four.

Kiev has already announced that with the existing volumes, after the commissioning of Nord Stream 2, the transit of Russian gas through the Ukrainian gas transportation system will cease to be profitable and will become unprofitable.
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  1. Revival
    Revival 26 March 2021 12: 42
    +5
    Gazprom ruled out the revision of the contract with Ukraine on gas transit to Europe.

    Let's watch ...
    I saved the news for the future, and then, on occasion, you are looking forever for the apponent, and the "statement" is lost
    1. Proxima
      Proxima 26 March 2021 12: 47
      +17
      "Kiev has already stated that with the existing volumes, after the commissioning of Nord Stream 2, the transit of Russian gas through the Ukrainian gas transportation system will cease to be profitable and will become unprofitable. " - from the text. Ukrainian tovarischi are cunning, to put it mildly. How can there be an unprofitable already built gas pipeline with all the infrastructure? fool They sit on the legacy of the USSR and blather something else. Another thing is that less will launch their greedy paw there. And so maintain the infrastructure of the pipeline and live in peace.
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 26 March 2021 12: 56
        -30%
        Quote: Proxima
        They sit on the legacy of the USSR and blather something else.

        The entire post-Soviet space, including the Russian Federation, sits on the legacy of the USSR and blathers something. So Ukraine is not alone here.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 26 March 2021 13: 02
          +22
          At the end of 2019, Gazprom and Ukraine signed a new agreement to continue gas transit through the Ukrainian GTS for a period of five years. According to the agreement, Gazprom guarantees the pumping of 65 billion cubic meters of gas in the first year and 40 billion in the next four.

          Kiev has already announced that with the existing volumes, after the commissioning of Nord Stream 2, the transit of Russian gas through the Ukrainian gas transportation system will cease to be profitable and will become unprofitable.

          What's the question !? belay Increase your pumping volumes "reverse non-Russian gas"from the EU, and you will be happy yes
          More precisely, happiness will not be for everyone, but only for those engaged in a manipulative and fraudulent state-level scheme, but these are trifles ...

          For this jumped?
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 26 March 2021 13: 11
            +13
            Quote: Insurgent
            For this jumped?

            Ze European values, and Western democracy.
            And in general I do not understand Svidomo, how you can take gas from enemies, at least they began to respect themselves.
            1. Cananecat
              Cananecat 26 March 2021 13: 17
              +10
              Quote: tihonmarine
              how you can take gas from enemies, at least they began to respect themselves.

              So, too, not for myself ... they are trying for Europe. For the sake of a great goal, you can step on your throat)))
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 26 March 2021 14: 14
                +13
                Quote: Canecat
                So, too, not for myself ... they are trying for Europe.

                Their efforts are kind of a farm. If Russian gas flows through the Nord Stream, this is the wrong gas for Europe, and if Russian (enemy, in their opinion) gas goes to Europe through Ukraine, then this is the right gas, and it serves as the energy security of this Europe. (Although the gas in both pipes is Russian, the logic of 404x cannot be understood).
                1. Cananecat
                  Cananecat 26 March 2021 15: 04
                  +2
                  The meaning of the Ukrainian branch is to lick Europe deeper and with a pull, so that it would be grateful for it in 404 ... how many people are already licking, but there is still no gratitude ... a paradox)))
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 26 March 2021 17: 41
                    +1
                    Quote: Canecat
                    deeper and with a pull to lick Europe, so that she would be grateful to the 404th for it ... how many people are already licking, but there is still no gratitude ... a paradox

                    No matter how much you lick, but for Europeans, Ukraine will never become Europe.
            2. Insurgent
              Insurgent 26 March 2021 13: 50
              +3
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: Insurgent
              For this jumped?

              Ze European values, and Western democracy.


              And where are they? request
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 26 March 2021 14: 15
                +3
                Quote: Insurgent
                And where are they?

                You are in Donbass, you experience these values ​​yourself every day.
            3. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 26 March 2021 14: 18
              +5
              Quote: tihonmarine
              And in general I do not understand Svidomo, how you can take gas from enemies, at least they began to respect themselves.

              You are mistaken about Svidomo: they have no intelligence, no logic, no self-respect, no brains.

              As for the SP-2, the completion and commissioning of it is fatal for the American assassins (they get a huge hole in the budget and the process of dying is accelerating) and very dangerous for the Americans themselves: Europe is growing, and their influence on Europe is decreasing.

              Will they decide to go to war in Donbass in order to disrupt the completion of the SP-2? Clearing up soon.
            4. Rubi0
              Rubi0 26 March 2021 14: 29
              +2
              They do not want to take it, they want to pump it, moreover, in a design volume of 150 billion in transit from Turkmenistan, to become the main supplier to Europe and receive money out of thin air. The truth that it prevented them from sitting quietly and calmly receiving money for transit as before 2008 is not clear.
            5. DymOk_v_dYmke
              DymOk_v_dYmke 26 March 2021 15: 17
              0
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: Insurgent
              For this jumped?

              Ze European values, and Western democracy.
              And in general I do not understand Svidomo, how you can take gas from enemies, at least they began to respect themselves.

              Hotels eurorousels vrovalnost, - let them rake about in full.
            6. Alien From
              Alien From 26 March 2021 21: 45
              +2
              Begging they did not finish and will not finish.
            7. Souchastnik
              Souchastnik 29 March 2021 09: 40
              0
              how can you take gas from enemies

              Yes, they do. But with disgust. laughing
          2. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 26 March 2021 13: 12
            -35%
            Quote: Insurgent
            More precisely, happiness will not be for everyone, but only for those engaged in a manipulative and fraudulent state-level scheme, but these are trifles ...

            In the Russian Federation, how is it different?
            Quote: Insurgent
            For this jumped?

            Nobody rides for this, and Ukraine is no exception. In the 90s we went out of that mess, what is it today?
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 26 March 2021 13: 22
              +16
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              In the Russian Federation, how is it different?

              In another way, not like on Vkraini. In the Russian Federation, something is somehow being built, in spite of the theft, and there "0" , you don `t see ?

              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Nobody rides for this, and Ukraine is no exception.


              Yah ! Can you tell me why they rode there, what they got from that, and was it worth it?
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 26 March 2021 13: 30
                -34%
                Quote: Insurgent
                In another way, not like on Vkraini. In the Russian Federation, something is somehow built, in spite of the theft, and there is "0", don't you see?

                Come on, we're not far from them, it's just that the Russian Federation got a bigger piece from the USSR, it takes longer to raid.
                Quote: Insurgent
                Yah ! Can you tell me why they rode there, what they got from that, and was it worth it?

                I won't say, I don't know, I haven't studied their slogans. But apparently "they wanted the best, but got it as always."))))
                1. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 26 March 2021 13: 36
                  +14
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  Come on, we're not far from them, it's just that the Russian Federation got a bigger piece from the USSR, it takes longer to raid.


                  I do not intend to dissuade you, because in order to understand that this is not so in many ways, you have to live on the outskirts since the collapse of the USSR.
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 26 March 2021 13: 47
                    -17%
                    Quote: Insurgent
                    I do not intend to dissuade you, because in order to understand that this is not so in many ways, you have to live on the outskirts since the collapse of the USSR.

                    Yes, my relatives live there in Zaporozhye. They are much worse than in the Russian Federation, this is a fact. I just don't like it when Ukraine is hated, but we ourselves can repeat their fate in the near future. They just got these agitation about Ukraine, in Russia that there is nothing to discuss or what? As if everything is so fabulous here.
                    1. Insurgent
                      Insurgent 26 March 2021 13: 59
                      +21
                      Quote: aleksejkabanets
                      I just don't like it when Ukraine is hated, but we ourselves can repeat their fate in the near future.

                      Nah No. Russia went through its 90s of lawlessness with the shooting of parliament, the 1st and 2nd Chechen, terrorist attacks, and the Outskirts, meanwhile, resembled a quiet swamp, under the mud of which was ripening what had spilled out in 2014 ...

                      Russia has immunity and resources to overcome crises, after all, the Russian Federation is capable of pursuing its independent policy.

                      And the Outskirts ...
                      1. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 26 March 2021 14: 16
                        -17%
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        And the Outskirts ...

                        No small state today can be independent. Yes, and our independence is very conditional. Look at the behavior of the ruble, it falls from every American sneeze, unfortunately.
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        Russia went through its 90s of lawlessness with the shooting of parliament, the 1st and 2nd Chechen, terrorist attacks, and the Outskirts, meanwhile, resembled a quiet swamp, under the mud of which was ripening what had spilled out in 2014 ...

                        We have the same ripening, and for a long time already. Look at the financing of Navalny, the same, Potanin was caught financing Navalny through his structures. A "top" coup and redistribution of spheres of influence in our country is not excluded.
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        Russia has immunity and resources to overcome crises, after all, the Russian Federation is capable of pursuing its independent policy.

                        What is "immunity" in this context, I do not understand, what is, before everything else, the Russian Federation is capable of pursuing its independent policy, but it stubbornly refuses to do so. Yes, and answer yourself, can the state, with only 2% of the global GDP, pursue an independent, independent policy and for what?
                      2. Insurgent
                        Insurgent 26 March 2021 14: 18
                        +7
                        Quote: aleksejkabanets

                        No small state today can be independent.


                        The outskirts are small ??? belay
                      3. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 26 March 2021 14: 23
                        -17%
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        The outskirts are small ???

                        Today we have only two large countries, unfortunately, the USA and China.
                      4. DymOk_v_dYmke
                        DymOk_v_dYmke 26 March 2021 15: 31
                        +7
                        Quote: Insurgent
                        The outskirts are small ???

                        Without a potential united with Russia, yes, a small one.
                        Also unnecessary to anyone. 404.
                    2. Vadim237
                      Vadim237 26 March 2021 16: 55
                      +5
                      Yes, and answer yourself, can the state, with only 2% of the global GDP, pursue an independent, independent policy and for what? Russia has the fifth economy in the world, so it can and does. And Russia is one of 16 countries in the world that together form more than 60% of world GDP - all other countries have GDP below a trillion dollars - 179 countries form 40% of world GDP.
                2. tihonmarine
                  tihonmarine 26 March 2021 14: 41
                  +18
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  I just don't like it when Ukraine is hated

                  And I just do not like it when neighbors consider Russia an enemy and yell "Moskolyak at Gilyak". At least I have never heard this from the Russians.
                3. Looking for
                  Looking for 26 March 2021 15: 50
                  +7
                  Quote: aleksejkabanets
                  They just got these agitation about Ukraine, in Russia that there is nothing to discuss or what? As if everything is so fabulous here.

                  Dear. To you that does not reach. That criticized Ukraine itself and the current government in Ukraine and the policy pursued by it.
                  1. aleksejkabanets
                    aleksejkabanets 26 March 2021 16: 50
                    -9
                    Quote: Seeker
                    Dear. To you that does not reach. That criticized Ukraine itself and the current government in Ukraine and the policy pursued by it.

                    How is our government fundamentally different from the Ukrainian one, that some have their own pocket in the first place, and that others have? And secondly, you should carefully read the comments, as they do not call Ukrainians there.
            2. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 26 March 2021 14: 23
              +15
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Come on, we're not far from them, it's just that the Russian Federation got a bigger piece from the USSR, it takes longer to raid.

              Russia did not receive anything, Russia, as it was Russia, and remained, but under the USSR, it was not a piece that was torn from it, but a "bitter" by those who had never been an empire, a country or a state.
            3. Rubi0
              Rubi0 26 March 2021 14: 33
              -13%
              What's the bigger piece? If we discard 2/3 of the territory unsuitable for life, over which even the mask satellites do not fly, then it will turn out exactly like the territory of Ukraine.
          3. vitvit123
            vitvit123 26 March 2021 13: 58
            +7
            In vain you enter into polemics with him ..
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 26 March 2021 14: 34
              -13%
              Quote: vitvit123
              In vain you enter into polemics with him ..

              Well, yes, he put a minus and immediately killed his opponent with his arguments.
              1. vitvit123
                vitvit123 26 March 2021 17: 12
                +2
                This is your vision of the situation ... I just expressed my opinion to a person whose comments are interesting to me and for whom I have been imbued with respect in absentia.
          4. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 26 March 2021 14: 18
            +1
            Quote: Insurgent
            Can you tell me why they rode there, what they got from that, and was it worth it?

            If we hadn't been jumping, we would have lived like in Romania.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 26 March 2021 16: 58
              +3
              And soon they will live like in Moldova.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 26 March 2021 14: 17
          +1
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Nobody rides for this, and Ukraine is no exception.

          They jump, and even how they jump! Already with pans on his head.
    2. Proxima
      Proxima 26 March 2021 13: 24
      +12
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      Quote: Proxima
      They sit on the legacy of the USSR and blather something else.

      The entire post-Soviet space, including the Russian Federation, sits on the legacy of the USSR and blathers something. So Ukraine is not alone here.

      The point is different, other countries are somehow developing, but Ukraine is the only post-Soviet country that has never recovered its Soviet-level GDP. Thirty years have passed fellow you need to do something, somehow build up the economy, fool and not plunder the legacy of the USSR.
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 26 March 2021 13: 32
        -19%
        Quote: Proxima
        and Ukraine is the only post-Soviet country that has never recovered its Soviet-level GDP.

        Come on, you might think the Russian Federation has restored the industrial potential of the USSR, or at least the RSFSR?
        Quote: Proxima
        Thirty years have passed, but you need to do something, somehow develop, and not plunder the legacy of the USSR.

        Golden words, I completely agree with you. RF is the same applies.
        1. Tochilka
          Tochilka 26 March 2021 14: 21
          -3
          By the number of billionaires (socially responsible businessmen cit. V.V. Putin) surpassed the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR combined! Isn't it "the achievement of a young country"?
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 26 March 2021 14: 32
            -8
            Quote: Tochilka
            In terms of the number of billionaires, they surpassed the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR combined! Isn't it "the achievement of a young country"?

            Well, yes, the entry of so many Russian citizens into the Forbes list is a serious achievement.))))
        2. max702
          max702 26 March 2021 15: 33
          +1
          For 2021 there are more enterprises in RUSSIA than in the RSFSR for 1991 ...
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 26 March 2021 16: 02
            +4
            Quote: max702
            For 2021 there are more enterprises in RUSSIA than in the RSFSR for 1991 ...

            which ones?
            it's like comparing the number of collective farms with the number of farms, the number of factories with the number of car washes.
            1. Vadim237
              Vadim237 26 March 2021 17: 01
              0
              In Russia, there are 54000 large and medium-sized as well as small and about 600000 micro-enterprises plus a few more million individual entrepreneurs.
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 26 March 2021 17: 10
                +3
                Quote: Vadim237
                In Russia, there are 54000 large and medium-sized as well as small and about 600000 micro-enterprises plus a few more million individual entrepreneurs.

                How can this now be compared with what was in the RSFSR?
                no way. that's why economists come up with some universal, but very conditional measures like the volume of GDP
        3. Proxima
          Proxima 26 March 2021 16: 06
          +6
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          Quote: Proxima
          and Ukraine is the only post-Soviet country that has never recovered its Soviet-level GDP.

          Come on, you might think the Russian Federation has restored the industrial potential of the USSR, or at least the RSFSR?

          Dear, do you know the difference between industrial production and GDP or not? GDP includes, for example, the service sector. As for the industry, I can also give a positive example: in terms of the volume of housing construction, Russia surpassed the similar peak of the RSFSR, which was under Brezhnev in 1981.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 26 March 2021 16: 54
            -8
            Quote: Proxima
            Dear, do you know the difference between industrial production and GDP or not? GDP includes, for example, the service sector.

            Oh, well, of course, if we count all hairdressing salons, nail service workshops, watermelon markets as production facilities, then it probably surpassed laughing
          2. DymOk_v_dYmke
            DymOk_v_dYmke 26 March 2021 22: 48
            +1
            Quote: Proxima
            As for the industry, I can also give a positive example: in terms of the volume of housing construction, Russia surpassed the similar peak of the RSFSR, which was under Brezhnev in 1981.

            There are always a lot of crafty figures. You can always choose the comfortable ones.
            With all construction,% of the emergency fund of the total housing stock in Russia increased from 0.3% in 2000 to 0.7% in 2018.
            Judging by the dynamics of changes, it is now even higher. hi
          3. ANB
            ANB 27 March 2021 00: 02
            +2
            ... Dear, do you know the difference between industrial production and GDP or not? GDP includes, for example, the service sector.

            You are it. Do not encroach on sacred things. :)
            According to the correctly calculated GDP, the USA is in first place.
            And it is wrong (for industrial production) to consider no way. And then you never know what there will be. Some countries already include drugs in their GDP. Why - just business.
            Ps. Under the USSR, the GDP was not counted, it was the volume of production.
    3. Mitroha
      Mitroha 26 March 2021 13: 26
      +6
      Kiev has already announced that with the existing volumes, after the commissioning of Nord Stream 2, the transit of Russian gas through the Ukrainian gas transportation system will cease to be profitable and will become unprofitable.

      No, well, what, you bark at Russia even more, recognize it as an enemy. This is the only way to achieve concessions and normal relations, in your Outskirts world
      1. frruc
        frruc 26 March 2021 16: 13
        +1
        These are the problems of Ukraine, let them crawl like worms in shit.
    4. Horon
      Horon 26 March 2021 13: 48
      +11
      The entire post-Soviet space, including the Russian Federation, sits on the legacy of the USSR and blathers something

      Yes Yes! Now nothing is being built, nothing is being done, but in Russia (and not only), they only do what they drink and interfere in other people's elections! fool
      You "shake-ups of the regime" are already so crazy that you begin to scare not only the authorities, but also all those people who are now building roads, houses, factories, and developing new products! How are you different from that rabble who thinks that bread appears on the table thanks to the magic of money, and not because someone raised it and baked it? You just think that this is still the leftover from the Communists being eaten up! negative
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 26 March 2021 14: 22
        -15%
        Quote: Horon
        You "rebel of the regime" are already so crazy that you begin to scare not only the authorities, but also all those people ...

        What are you talking about? Who have I insulted at all? Offended, so sue. And yes, the word "insult" is spelled with an "o", as "offend".
        1. Horon
          Horon 26 March 2021 14: 48
          +10
          I do not care how it is spelled! Maybe I gave you a kind of "Oscar" for an abomination. Why are you not filing a lawsuit against the authorities, but are you proceeding on the feces on the internet?
          The entire post-Soviet space, including the Russian Federation, sits on the legacy of the USSR and blathers something

          Sitting only on the "legacy of the USSR"? That is, no one does anything, just sit on the "legacy"?
          PS When your colleagues write with typos and mistakes, you do not notice this, but quickly pay attention to the opponent's spelling - are you a troll?
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  2. Flooding
    Flooding 26 March 2021 13: 05
    +9
    Quote: Proxima
    And so maintain the infrastructure of the pipeline and live in peace.

    to maintain the operability of the pipeline, i.e. elementary gas pumping, you need to keep the system filled. And this is not one or two cubic meters

    Apart from the cost of timely replacement and repair of fittings, equipment, etc.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 March 2021 14: 36
      +2
      Quote: Flood
      Apart from the cost of timely replacement and repair of fittings, equipment, etc.

      And apart from the fact that the "feeding tube" is filled by Russia and not by European democracy.
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 26 March 2021 15: 55
      +2
      Quote: Flood
      Apart from the cost of timely replacement and repair of fittings, equipment, etc.

      All this is included in the price of contracts.
      It is enough to provide the conditions for these and not to steal ... hi
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 26 March 2021 15: 58
        0
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        All this is included in the price of contracts.

        depreciation? of course
        1. DymOk_v_dYmke
          DymOk_v_dYmke 26 March 2021 16: 03
          +1
          Quote: Flood
          Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
          All this is included in the price of contracts.

          depreciation?

          Yes.
      2. Flooding
        Flooding 26 March 2021 16: 21
        +2
        Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke
        All this is included in the price of contracts.

        what do you think, the cost of depreciation is in direct proportion to the volume of pumped gas.
        that is, will the depreciation when pumping two cubes be twice as expensive as when pumping one cubic meter?
        hence another natural question arises: does the total cost of transportation fully cover the cost of depreciation (maintenance) of the system, no matter how small the volume of gas
        obviously not
        it is clear that with a drop in volumes, the profit falls, since a decrease in the transported volume does not lead to a directly proportional decrease in the cost of depreciation of the system
        and depreciation starts to eat up the margin
  3. alexmach
    alexmach 26 March 2021 13: 16
    +7
    How can there be an unprofitable already built gas pipeline with all the infrastructure?

    Very simple. The already built gas pipeline and its infrastructure have operating costs.
    1. Proxima
      Proxima 26 March 2021 13: 36
      -2
      Quote: alexmach
      How can there be an unprofitable already built gas pipeline with all the infrastructure?

      Very simple. The already built gas pipeline and its infrastructure have operating costs.

      Which look minuscule in comparison with the cost of the gas pipeline. Remember, any infrastructure facilities (bridge, subway, overpass, railway, etc.) are very expensive to build and relatively cheap to operate... This is an axiom of manufacturing economics that even a child knows.
      1. alexmach
        alexmach 26 March 2021 17: 16
        +1
        Which look minuscule in comparison with the cost of the gas pipeline

        Do you know this for sure or did you come up with it on the fly? Could you give the numbers? And what are you talking about then?
        (bridge, subway, overpass, railway and so on

        Are you seriously comparing a bridge to a gas pipeline?
    2. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 26 March 2021 15: 59
      +1
      Quote: alexmach
      How can there be an unprofitable already built gas pipeline with all the infrastructure?

      Very simple. The already built gas pipeline and its infrastructure have operating costs.

      There are also depreciation deductions.
      If they are not drunk and robbed, then ...
  4. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 26 March 2021 13: 55
    0
    Quote: Proxima
    gain profits and become unprofitable "- from the text. Ukrainian tovarischis are cunning, to put it mildly. How can there be an unprofitable already built gas pipeline with all the infrastructure? fool

    Very simple. To do this, you need to know the terms of gas supply by GAZPROM.
    If on the fingers, then GAZPROM concludes contracts ONLY on pre-order terms, without changing the volumes, until the end of the contract (principle, agreed - pay and take). After the completion of the construction of the SP-2, the demand in Europe for transit gas from Ukraine will fall sharply, since the cost of gas supplies through the SP-2 is much lower (the main consumer is Germany). But Ukraine still has to pay for the volumes of transit gas that are stipulated in the contract from 2019. And if earlier it was profitable for them to pay for transit and receive their own gesheft from this, then there is a negative balance. So they whined, they say, let's reduce the volume of supplies.
    I will add that the operating costs of the infrastructure, which were mentioned above, are nothing compared to the losses that Ukraine will receive from the "undersale" of transit gas. Those. the positive balance has always more than covered the cost of owning a gas pipeline. Although in this case, the outskirts of the city launched it to a complete disgrace, since most of what was supposed to go to the operators was stupidly stuffed into their pockets.
    ...
    However, it is more convenient for the Kremlin to fight Ukraine with a gas pipeline than with soldiers. And I agree with our leadership in this.
    1. Avior
      Avior 26 March 2021 14: 09
      +9
      ... But Ukraine still has to pay for the volumes of transit gas that are stipulated in the contract from 2019. And if earlier it was profitable for them to pay for transit and receive their own gesheft from this, then there is a negative balance.

      You are almost right, but the opposite is true. Under the agreement, Gazprom must pay for 40 billion cubic meters to Ukraine, regardless of whether it actually pumped this gas.
      1. CommanderDIVA
        CommanderDIVA 27 March 2021 07: 23
        0
        Do not forget that this is until December 2024, after which the contract with Gazprom is terminated
        1. Avior
          Avior 27 March 2021 09: 08
          -2
          Who would have known what would happen in 2025, life has become very unpredictable, one last year is worth something.
          At the beginning of March 2020, who could have imagined how this year would go: (((
  5. Troll
    Troll 26 March 2021 14: 01
    +5
    How can there be an unprofitable already built gas pipeline with all the infrastructure? fool

    Elementary in fact. Maintenance of an already built infrastructure costs money.
  6. Nastia makarova
    Nastia makarova 26 March 2021 14: 37
    +2
    because not only need to be supported, but in fact, the gas pipeline needs to be rebuilt and this is a lot of money
  7. Pete mitchell
    Pete mitchell 26 March 2021 16: 23
    +3
    Quote: Proxima
    They sit on the legacy of the USSR and blather something else. Another thing is that less will launch their greedy paw there. And so maintain the infrastructure of the pipeline and live in peace.
    You are voicing theses that are not applicable to the country 404: they reject heritage; about a greedy paw is it you in vain - it's your own, your own wink ; somewhere it was announced that the profitability of the pipe starts somewhere from 35-40, well, if by reason, but then the gesheft is somehow ridiculous at all
  8. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 26 March 2021 18: 30
    0
    Well, maybe ... it's the same complex equipment and infrastructure that needs to be maintained and the staff pay for the maintenance and operation of the GTS.
  9. ProkletyiPirat
    ProkletyiPirat 26 March 2021 22: 57
    0
    Quote: Proxima
    How can there be an unprofitable already built gas pipeline with all the infrastructure? fool

    It's very simple, all gas pipelines have a lower bar in terms of "amount of pumped gas per unit of time" If you do not follow it, then complex processes are formed inside the GTS that destroy the GTS itself, to solve this negative "UK GTS" pumps gas in a closed loop, for this pumping a certain part of the gas is spent to feed the compressor, this part of the gas is paid by "UK GTS" from its income from the sale of gas.

    As a matter of fact, the problem of the Ukrainian gas transportation system is that it was supported by exports and industry, their industry has been falling apart for the last 30 years, and then exports are being cut off, which is why there is a great risk of failure of the gas transportation system. Actually, Ukraine has three ways, either to build new GTS, first of all new "circles" or to increase gas consumption well, or wait for a GTS accident with subsequent ships and horned animals ...
  • figwam
    figwam 26 March 2021 13: 02
    +2
    after the commissioning of Nord Stream 2, the transit of Russian gas through the Ukrainian GTS will cease to be profitable and will become unprofitable.

    And they wanted, as usual, to eat the fish and not choke on the bone.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 26 March 2021 13: 12
      0
      Quote: figvam
      And they wanted to eat the fish as usual and "

      Sit on an aspen stake.
    2. Alexander 3
      Alexander 3 26 March 2021 13: 18
      +2
      After the completion of Nord Stream 2, you can bargain on filling the Crimean canal with water for the Crimea. We give you gas, and you give water to the Crimeans.
  • max702
    max702 26 March 2021 13: 12
    +13
    The issue of building the SP-2 and the absolute arctic fox for Ukraine is as simple as five kopecks! The point is not that WE will supply little gas through 404 and we will not pay them, but in something completely different! When launching the SP-2, we close ALL contractual obligations for gas with Europe, and through the ruinda we stupidly stop supplying gas in any volumes and paying Ukraine for the volumes not supplied under the contract .. What does this mean? Why such generosity? It's simple, first of all, the "reverse" of the Slovak gas is covered, the pipe is empty, there is no gas and there is no place to take the capacity of the 404th itself is not enough to even fill this pipe, and the consequence of this is the impossibility of delivering gas to consumers on the territory of second-hand, as a result, a copper basin power engineer , the rest of the industry, CX and so on .. That is, Ukraine EVERYTHING! That's ALL! For nothing and nowhere works, the catastrophe is global and all-embracing! Here's the solution to the Ukrainian question .. And without keeping any database .. When there is no light and heat, no shouts from Washington will save, no Nazis will drive millions of people into a stall, they will have to crawl on all fours to Moscow to belittle and go to absolutely any concessions and conditions .. Here is a picture in a couple of months after the launch of the SP-2, we will see ..

    All the participants in this performance understand this, which is why there is such pressure on SP-2, because with its launch, the entire operation on the conflict between Ukraine and Russia flies into the abyss, and oh, how much has been put on it ...
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 26 March 2021 14: 03
      +5
      Quote: max702
      That is, Ukraine is EVERYTHING! That's ALL! For nothing and nowhere works, the catastrophe is global and all-embracing!

      I completely agree with you. Fighting with a gas pipeline is still better than soldiers, no matter how much the ruin leadership and its sponsors want it.
    2. Kronos
      Kronos 26 March 2021 14: 58
      -8
      Stories about freezing and decay of everything are no longer even funny.
      1. max702
        max702 26 March 2021 15: 25
        +5
        Quote: Kronos
        Stories about freezing and decay of everything are no longer even funny.

        Tell me about this in Texas, but the climate there will not be warmer in a ruin ..
    3. CastroRuiz
      CastroRuiz 26 March 2021 16: 13
      +1
      Vsyo pravilno skazano.
  • figwam
    figwam 26 March 2021 13: 16
    +4
    Another interesting piece of news came from a stuck dry cargo ship. Before creating a jam in the canal, the captain of the ship drew a large pair of scissors while maneuvering.
  • Nyrobsky
    Nyrobsky 26 March 2021 13: 17
    +5
    Quote: Revival
    Gazprom ruled out the revision of the contract with Ukraine on gas transit to Europe.

    Let's watch ...
    I saved the news for the future, and then, on occasion, you are looking forever for the apponent, and the "statement" is lost

    Do you think saving the news makes sense? The statement on the merits concerns the current agreement with the specified volumes of pumped gas. Even if JV-2 is completed and put into operation, under the terms of the contract, gas will still flow through the Ukrainian pipe until 2024. But after 2024, their transit services are unlikely to be in demand, unless, of course, the junta's rule is knocked off during this time.
    Judging by the fact that Germany offers Kuev to abandon claims for the construction of SP-2 and in this case promises to invest in the construction of an enterprise for the production of hydrogen, which Ukraine will be able to supply to Germany through an empty pipe, it can be assumed that Russian gas in the Ukrainian gas transportation system is still will not work. If by virtue of his meagerness or total dependence on Washington's decisions, he does not take advantage of Berlin's proposal, then hydrogen will not appear in their pipe either.
    1. sergej987
      sergej987 26 March 2021 13: 50
      0
      There will be no gas flow through 404. For each quarter, the pumping price of 10 million is paid. cubes and dosvidos.
      1. Nastia makarova
        Nastia makarova 26 March 2021 14: 40
        +1
        gas will go on until the contract ends
        1. max702
          max702 26 March 2021 15: 29
          +3
          Will not! There will be money for pumping, but no gas! Physically not! Its ruind cannot even be stolen because the pipe is empty as the treasury of the 404th ..
  • Igoresha
    Igoresha 26 March 2021 13: 24
    +2
    I saved the news for the future, and then, on occasion, you are looking forever for the apponent, and the "statement" is lost

    gentlemen are supposed to believe the word
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 26 March 2021 13: 33
    -12%
    And when vukrostan gets into NATO, will gasprim increase the pumping of gas volumes through vukrostan? Everything for sale, their pockets are closer to the real interests of Russia, hanyga. ...
  • bobba94
    bobba94 26 March 2021 16: 01
    +1
    "The contract with Ukraine after 2019 will not be extended under any circumstances." From the speech of the deputy. Chairman of the Gazprom Management Committee A. Medvedev at a press conference in Berlin in April 2018
  • vvvjak
    vvvjak 26 March 2021 12: 42
    +5
    Of course I think not

    Well, straight according to Zadornov
  • Gato
    Gato 26 March 2021 12: 44
    +4
    transit of Russian gas through the Ukrainian gas transportation system will cease to be profitable

    Who? Ukraine? So there is nothing to collaborate with the "occupiers" laughing We'll have to learn to receive gesheft from the SG from the owners. Or into the garden. All to the garden (C).
  • Glory to Berkut
    Glory to Berkut 26 March 2021 12: 47
    +5
    Kiev has already announced that with the existing volumes, after the commissioning of Nord Stream 2, the transit of Russian gas through the Ukrainian gas transportation system will cease to be profitable and will become unprofitable.

    Can not be! The European Shield (yes, in English) profits from the transit of the aggressor gas !? So are they at war with us or are they trading? laughing
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 26 March 2021 13: 08
      +3
      I'm more interested in what the next contract will be - in five years?
      1. WIKI
        WIKI 26 March 2021 13: 36
        +5
        Wait and see. Moreover, given the conflicting information from the project participants. “The chairman of the board of directors of Gazprom, Viktor Zubkov, answering journalists' questions in Berlin, said that Nord Stream 2 was 90-92 percent ready. project readiness is 93 percent. And in early March, the German energy concern Uniper, a co-investor of the gas pipeline, claimed that it was 98 percent ready. "

        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 26 March 2021 13: 41
          +3
          Quote: WIKI
          These numbers add confusion to the information about the project.

          There is generally confusion about exceeding the MPC wassat It seems like it is happening in the center of Europe, but no one really knows anything
  • rocket757
    rocket757 26 March 2021 12: 52
    +4
    Gazprom ruled out revision of contract with Ukraine on gas transit to Europe
    For what they fought for, they get ...
    These are their problems and their masters.
    1. cniza
      cniza 26 March 2021 14: 30
      +3
      They dreamed of forever milking Russia, raising tariffs and blackmailing Europe, and then everything would break off at once ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 26 March 2021 14: 36
        +2
        Not long left ...
        This chumadan, without a handle, will still be thrown ... no one intervened, in a serious way. Everyone has their own intereses and still had, and now there are a lot of problems from above !!!
        In geyrope everything is clear, EVERYONE FOR HIMSELF !!!
        1. cniza
          cniza 26 March 2021 14: 38
          +3
          Not just every man for himself, they will soon grab each other's throats ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 26 March 2021 14: 45
            +2
            Their deeds, collective ... we, from the outside, look.
            1. cniza
              cniza 26 March 2021 16: 47
              +3
              It is beneficial for us that they have stability, they are not a bad market for us and not only for hydrocarbons ...
  • Mark kalendarov
    Mark kalendarov 26 March 2021 13: 06
    +1
    War is war, and the gas is on schedule ...
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 26 March 2021 13: 08
    +1
    Kiev has already announced that with the existing volumes, after the commissioning of Nord Stream 2, the transit of Russian gas through the Ukrainian gas transportation system will cease to be profitable and will become unprofitable

    And who cares about your "grief"? It's time to start living at your own expense, and not at the expense of your neighbors.
    And Ukraine itself strives so that no one has anything to do with it. Slinky, unpleasant types.
  • Dym71
    Dym71 26 March 2021 13: 12
    +2
    Quote: Revival
    Zubkov said that the construction of the gas pipeline will be completed this year. At the moment, the project is 90-92% complete.

    What the fuck is 90-92%? Did they start disassembling the pipeline? belay
    From the wiki:
    As of February 9, 2021, approximately 96% has been laid along two lines of the gas pipeline. In Danish waters 47 kilometers are to be laid, and in German - another 13,9 kilometers. More than 85 kilometers are to be built along the other branch.

    On March 4, Uniper announced the completion of funding for the project. On the same day, it was announced that the construction of Nord Stream 2 would last until September.

    As of March 14, the project is 98% complete.

    As of March 19, 2021, about 85 km are left on the A line, and 45 km on the B line.
    1. Cananecat
      Cananecat 26 March 2021 13: 22
      +3
      Quote: Dym71
      What the fuck is 90-92%? Did they start disassembling the pipeline?

      Launching a gas pipeline is not just about laying a branch. This includes setting up and testing the system along its entire length.
      1. Dym71
        Dym71 26 March 2021 13: 24
        +5
        Quote: Canecat
        Launching a gas pipeline is not just about laying a branch. This includes setting up and testing the system along its entire length.

        So we are talking about construction, and not about commissioning or commissioning.
        1. Cananecat
          Cananecat 26 March 2021 13: 32
          +4
          Quote: Dym71
          So we are talking about construction, and not about commissioning or commissioning.

          Let's argue with Zubkov again. We can see it better from the site than to him from the office. ))
          1. Dym71
            Dym71 26 March 2021 15: 39
            +1
            Quote: Canecat
            Let's argue with Zubkov again.

            And what about Zubkov, it turns out the media are bullshitting.
  • Hagen
    Hagen 26 March 2021 13: 15
    +2
    At one time, the Ukrainians from the Poles acquired such an infection - inability to negotiate. Those have arrogance of the gentry, and these have "the pride of the great ukrov". But the singing Azarov, among others, would not have been entered, they would have divided the UGTS "into three" (source-consumer-transit), and there would be no questions about the GTS in principle. It would be beneficial for everyone to work through this pipe, and its condition would be maintained in proper form. Greed and arrogance ruined them. As it was said in the classic film - "the enemy did not give, he forged himself" .... Against this background, the Germans and Austrians are the most optimal business partners.
  • BABAY22
    BABAY22 26 March 2021 13: 33
    +9
    This must go into History!
    As one country, if I may say so, shouted at every corner that it was at war with Russia, demanded all sorts of punishments from other countries towards Russia, but at the same time demanded that Russia supply its gas to Europe exclusively through its territory, not bypassing and nothing else.
  • xorek
    xorek 26 March 2021 13: 34
    +1
    It is necessary to complete and cut off the pipe on the outskirts .... Bandera got it already !!!
  • Boratsagdiev
    Boratsagdiev 26 March 2021 13: 47
    +1
    It would be better for them to engage in normal strategic research and calculations, and not pay attention to Ukraine.
    It has long been known who, how and where pulls its branches for pumping gas, as well as what terminals open for liquefied gas.
    The Arabs will open new terminals within a few years and build new branches.
    And what will happen to the prices? ...
    As always, they will once again cry about the losses and pull on subsidies and subsidies.
    1. Kronos
      Kronos 26 March 2021 15: 00
      -1
      Prices should be low because it is beneficial to ordinary people.
    2. Brturin
      Brturin 26 March 2021 16: 53
      0
      Quote: BoratSagdiev
      The Arabs will open new terminals within a few years and build new branches. And what will happen to the prices? ...

      The branches are new .. the Israelis have so far decided to send gas for liquefaction to Egypt instead of their EastMed ....
      Long-term contracts have not yet been canceled ...
      then the cost is an interesting thing - last summer, when LNG did not cost so much, for some reason, almost 100 shipments of US LNG were refused. Carbon capture and storage (CCS) associated with the massive CCS system in Ras Laffan, which will be the most powerful in the LNG industry when fully operational. " https://neftegaz.ru/news/spg-szhizhennyy-prirodnyy-gaz/664322-katar-natselen-na-spg-liderstvo-prinyato-okonchatelnoe-investitsionnoe-reshenie-po-krupneyshemu-spg-/ This hardly makes the joint venture cheaper ...
      According to the Boston Consulting Group (BCG), the break-even selling price of LNG with delivery for Qatar is about $ 142 per thousand cubic meters, while for other suppliers it ranges from $ 177 to $ 284.
      https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/03/17/katar-gotov-davit-konkurentov-deshevym-gazom
      The Arabs can and are ready ... only as competitors from the same states, Australia ...
  • Jaromir
    Jaromir 26 March 2021 13: 57
    +5
    Russia will not revise the contract with Ukraine on gas transit, Gazprom ruled out any changes to the existing agreement

    This means that our authorities will continue to finance the occupation regime in fraternal Ukraine ... It's time to stop doing this.
  • Jaromir
    Jaromir 26 March 2021 14: 01
    +4
    the construction of the gas pipeline will be completed this year

    Maybe yes, maybe not ... There are too many political nuances ...
  • svoit
    svoit 26 March 2021 14: 05
    -1
    Quote: Proxima
    How can there be an unprofitable already built gas pipeline with all the infrastructure?

    Easily, they just think that it will be now in 4 years, gas pumping may decrease and become unprofitable
  • cniza
    cniza 26 March 2021 14: 29
    +2
    the transit of Russian gas through the Ukrainian gas transportation system will cease to be profitable and will become unprofitable.


    Well, there will be no losses, but the profit is less, so you raised the tariffs ...
    1. Petrol cutter
      Petrol cutter 26 March 2021 14: 49
      +1
      I'm afraid there is profit / no profit ...
      We are guaranteed a rise in prices. And more than once. Many, many more times! ...
      Therefore, I watch these games very calmly.
      1. cniza
        cniza 26 March 2021 16: 53
        +3
        There are different options for pricing ...
        1. Petrol cutter
          Petrol cutter 26 March 2021 17: 48
          0
          However.
          I categorically do not foresee a reduction in prices for the domestic consumer for anything.
          But I will predict - an increase.
          Don't even go to your grandmother.
          1. cniza
            cniza 26 March 2021 18: 11
            +2
            So, and here everything is clear, we have never had a decline, only an increase, because it is easier and faster to get money from people ...
  • Dzafdet
    Dzafdet 26 March 2021 14: 39
    +6
    Gazprom's goofs say a lot. And they constantly fly in for money ... They have such a hobby ...
  • Petrol cutter
    Petrol cutter 26 March 2021 14: 45
    0
    Well, then download it and .... Roll up.
    True, I am not your decree.
    And there, we'll see how things go.
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 26 March 2021 15: 06
    +1
    Sanctions? This is a very slippery slope. You can impose sanctions and lose in the long term the Russian market as it was with food. And in addition, in the short term - to ruin their own businesses and put workers on benefits. While, let me remind you, all Western countries are already in permanent debt.

    Why do you think Russia does not impose sanctions on resource supplies? There are no such hints. Remember how it happened that oil fell to minus that year? As a result, Russia is actively involved in the pricing of oil and there is talk about abandoning the dollar in trade. laughing
  • xomaNN
    xomaNN 26 March 2021 15: 10
    0
    After Miller signed an onerous contract with a "pay, download, download!" what can we do next.

    Until the summer, you must finally enter SP-2 and then puff out your cheeks drinks
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 26 March 2021 15: 12
    -1
    bangs on Ukrainian pipes, but rather compressors, becomes almost inevitable laughing Paint nadot! From the inside, in green, to the delight of Greta! laughing
  • Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 26 March 2021 15: 29
    -2
    Gazprom loves to improvise laughing
  • Viktor Afanasev
    Viktor Afanasev 26 March 2021 17: 10
    -6
    What kind of contracts and who is signed there, if then Gazprom is pulled on a kukan ???

    Gazprom paid to Naftogaz of Ukraine $ 2,9 billion
    The money was paid in repayment of the debt of a Russian company recognized by a decision of the Stockholm arbitration.

    Why is no one punished for this ????

    https://www.rbc.ru/business/27/12/2019/5e06339e9a79470d0c9382b1
    1. Igoresha
      Igoresha 26 March 2021 21: 15
      -1
      Why is no one punished for this ????
      You were personally punished for this question with three minuses, not enough ???)
      1. Viktor Afanasev
        Viktor Afanasev 26 March 2021 21: 17
        0
        Yes. Dill and Gazprom's employees are not asleep here wink

        The main thing is to keep silent about it - and to no one! shhh wink
  • Esaul
    Esaul 26 March 2021 17: 29
    0
    The year is 2027. The United States buys liquefied gas from Russia, unloads it in the Netherlands, then it goes through a pipe to Poland and from there it is reversed to Ukraine. One I don't understand what is the profit of such a scheme?
  • altimo1
    altimo1 27 March 2021 04: 29
    +1
    Where will they eat?)
  • TANKISTONE
    TANKISTONE 27 March 2021 17: 41
    0
    I read some comments on VO and wonder: how can you discuss the topic of "they", "them", etc. ??? Just like on the "filmoscope" of the First Channel or RTR. People like you live in Ukraine! And people live in the most beautiful country in the world for them, but in a monstrous state! (C) M.N. Zadornov). Equal experience for all normal citizens of all countries. Politicians and the "elite" run the show. What are you all one size fits all? It is clear that there are more good people! BUT the bad ones are better organized!
  • AML
    AML 27 March 2021 21: 00
    0
    Quote: Rubi0
    They do not want to take it, they want to pump it, moreover, in a design volume of 150 billion in transit from Turkmenistan, to become the main supplier to Europe and receive money out of thin air. The truth that it prevented them from sitting quietly and calmly receiving money for transit as before 2008 is not clear.

    Ehhh, Ukraine has its own gas production, at one time Madame with a scythe was one of the owners. They stupidly wanted the dough. But how to do it? It is necessary to sell gas at a higher price. But home-produced gas, by definition, cannot be more expensive. Therefore, we signed such a contract with the Russian Federation, hiding behind independence and other nishtyaks.
  • Nross
    Nross 28 March 2021 12: 45
    0
    Recalling, there was something like "pump or pay" in the contract with the Junta, which would eventually get Gazmyasu 7 yards of green in 5 years.
    So it doesn't matter whether Gazmyas will pump gas through them or turn off the valve - he will pay 7 yards in 5 years anyway.
    The plus for the 404 was only the pumping figures exceeding 40 billion, a double tariff was looming, etc., to which our gas workers would go only in an exceptional case.
    Considering the fact that Russian vertically integrated oil companies are one of the few that strictly observe contractual obligations, the Ukrainians will receive their 30 pieces of silver. The only question is - what will happen in the 24th?