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Navalny's submarine in the Kansas steppes

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Why don't the few supporters of this character ask themselves a simple question: why does the West support him so actively? What good is it to him?


Did the Western capitals decide on the principle of helping the "unfortunate citizens of Russia" establish "real democracy"? And behind this stand pure charity and patronage? And where are the successful examples of such a literally rich and gratuitous participation of the West in the affairs of other states? Yugoslavia? Iraq? Libya? Ukraine?

Where Navalny is, there is deception and theft


In fact, this gentleman is destined to play the role of a battering ram for undermining and destroying Russia, because the West has never had any other interests in relation to it, has not, and never will.

Of course, an honest person, also a patriot, will not be suitable for this role.

What is needed here is an absolutely unprincipled, cynical and controlled person without any ideals, ready to fulfill any order for money, and able to unite others like themselves around him.

And Alexey Navalny not only meets these requirements, he is still overfulfilling plans. The image of Navalny, created by the Western and some domestic so-called opposition media, as a crystal honest and implacable fighter against corruption is absolutely untrue.

The most important, according to his Western patrons, the "oppositionist" of Russia leads a luxurious life, more suitable for any object of his investigations. In 2017-2018 alone, for the publication of "shocking" revelations, the blogger received more than 62 million rubles on his bitcoin wallet.

The anonymous Telegram channel Confessions of an FBK Employee (an organization performing the functions of a foreign agent) reported: “On November 21, 2018, 19,9 bitcoins arrived, and on November 22, a video about Sergei Brilev's British citizenship was released.”
Another Telegram channel, Project Scanner, posted a publication on how the scheme for withdrawing large sums of money works, and analyzes the movements of Navalny himself and FBK * employees around the world.
The Navalny family lives in an elite residential complex "Lira" in Moscow, in a three-room apartment worth at least 40 million rubles.

Navalny's daughter Daria is studying at Stanford University in the United States.

At the end of 2020, when Navalny was allegedly "rehabilitated from the effects of poisoning," he and his family flew to the Canary Islands for several days. This was confirmed by the FRG police, informing the German media that the "fighter against the regime" went to warmer lands on December 28 and stayed there for several days. How terrible were the consequences of the penetration of the poisonous substance Novichok into Navalny's body, if this did not prevent him from leaving the Berlin clinic "Charite" and going to rest?

Extraction of large sums of money from his allegedly opposition activities has long become a hallmark not only of Navalny himself, but also of his entire team.

For example, a former employee of Alfa-Bank Vladimir Ashurkov, without undue modesty calling himself "the evangelist of Navalny's team," owns several companies in the UK. One of his firms receives almost £ 0,5 million annually from an offshore founder in Cyprus.

The Kompromat.ru website has published a recording of the talks between FBK * Executive Director Ashurkov and James Ford, Secretary for Political Affairs of the British Embassy in Moscow. In it Ashurkov told his interlocutor that “... if we had more money, we would certainly expand our team. A person who spends here ... I don't know ... $ 10-20 million a year for support will see a completely different picture ... ".

The notorious "Anti-Corruption Fund" * of Alexei Navalny has become in reality only a means of extracting illegal profits and ensuring the comfortable existence of their leadership.

FBK * was founded in 2011 as a non-profit organization. He must spend all the funds raised exclusively for statutory purposes.

The Foundation publishes reports annually. So, in 2018, the fund, according to published reports, received 58 million rubles. Source - donations made by about 16,3 thousand donors, the average amount was 720 rubles. The expenses in this case amounted to 65,3 million rubles.

At the same time, FBK * staff members established several commercial structures. In particular, these are Media-Live LLC, Leviathan-Media LLC, Strana Prilivov LLC in Russia, and SIA Dataset in Latvia.

In the financial report of FBK * for 2019, there is not a word about the fact that its employees have commercial enterprises, the purpose of which, unlike a non-profit fund, is to make a profit. At the same time, there are such firms both in Russia and abroad, RT found out in its recent investigation.

As follows from the document, FBK * received 2019 million rubles in 82,3. This budget, according to the report, was formed from donations, the average size of which was 712 rubles. In total, 115,6 thousand online transfers were made last year.

Video blog "Navalny.LIVE" on YouTube on a weekly stream can earn up to 100 thousand rubles and even more.

Navalny's submarine in the Kansas steppes


One of the most important items of income for FBK * and personally for Mr. Navalny is the sale of branded products - mugs, cases, T-shirts, phone cases and other products with initials or the image of the opposition "guru" himself.

All products have a considerable price. For example, a T-shirt, for which the red price on a market day is no more than 200-300 rubles, having received the blogger's symbols, immediately starts to cost ... already from 1700, 2666 and more rubles.



Formally, each purchase of such a product is made out with the help of a public offer (a public offer for the purchase and sale of a product, which buyers accept without reservations). "Navalny's headquarters shop" invites each buyer to conclude it with the commercial structure of LLC "Strana Prilivov".

According to the Federal Tax Service, the average number of employees of this company in 2019 is one person.

And here we move on to the most interesting. Anyone can easily, using the appropriate services, find out not only the IP-address of the server on which the site "Freedom Navalny" is located, but also its physical location.



And he is surprised to find out that the server with the IP address 104.21.44.64 is located ... right in the middle of the Chini Reservoir in Kansas, USA. The site “Navalny's Headquarters Store” with the IP address 172.67.196.112 was also added there.
Navalny's submarine in the Kansas steppes

One can only guess how such a picture looks in reality. Such an interesting location of the servers was undoubtedly chosen to exclude hacker attacks by hostile forces on the server. And therefore, the technique is unlikely to be on the water surface. Moreover, no objects can be found on satellite images of the Chini reservoir.

Most likely, for greater safety in the depths of the reservoir, a submarine plows the abyss, where Mr. Navalny's servers are operating in complete safety.

But jokes aside, it's pretty clear that the location of the servers is just intentionally hidden. And this was done not without the help of Navalny's western patrons.

In the meantime, the blogger's naive adherents continue to supply the FBK * brigade and Navalny personally with the means to ensure their comfortable existence. This whole picture strongly resembles the famous scene from the famous novel by Ilya Ilf and Yevgeny Petrov "The Twelve Chairs", where the great strategist Ostap Bender was selling tickets to enter Pyatigorsk Proval.

- Citizens, buy tickets to enter Proval. Entrance fee is 10 kopecks, children - 5 kopecks ... Trade union members - 10 kopecks ..., - Bender shouted.

- Citizens, wear our merch, wear our new things with symbols and upload their photos with the hashtag #FreedomNavalny, - calls on Navalny.


Using the same eternal and ingenious methodology of Bender, he sells his product to naive citizens - a fake, imaginary "opposition" and "fight against corruption." And after all, citizens believe ...

* FBK is an organization performing the functions of a foreign agent
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  1. marchcat
    marchcat 27 March 2021 12: 10
    +8
    Traitor to the Motherland, imprisoned for theft - this is how to understand ... recourse
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 27 March 2021 12: 18
      +20
      Where Navalny is, there is deception and theft

    2. Gato
      Gato 27 March 2021 12: 22
      +6
      Traitor to the Motherland, imprisoned for theft

      Treason to the socialist homeland is a betrayal.
      Treason to the capitalist motherland is theft, or, let's say, a raider run over by imported capitalists on domestic ones. The penguins are smiling and waving their flashlights.
      1. apro
        apro 27 March 2021 12: 25
        -4
        Quote: Gato
        Treason to the capitalist homeland is theft

        What an invasion ??? normal market relations. We have everything according to the law !!! capital movement.
        Quote: Gato
        The penguins are smiling and waving their flashlights.

        You can't say the best.
      2. Million
        Million 28 March 2021 09: 04
        +2
        capital has no homeland ...
    3. Insurgent
      Insurgent 27 March 2021 12: 27
      +22
      Quote: marchcat
      Traitor to the Motherland, imprisoned for theft - this is how to understand ...


      But take it straight - they shut it down "in a criminal way" so as not to make him a "prisoner of conscience".
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 27 March 2021 12: 56
        .
        Well, you give. Do you want to say that we have a law that the drawbar, where it turned there and left.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 27 March 2021 12: 59
          +14
          Quote: YOUR
          Well, you give. Do you want to say that we have a law that the drawbar, where it turned there and left.

          And what about YOURis it wrong for him?
          Was it a criminal offense? It was yes They worked on it, without touching (perhaps only so far) politics and anti-state activities.

          Where did you see the "drawbar" here?

          If you think that not everything was incriminated to Navalny, then as a citizen, you have the right to apply to the prosecutor's office with a corresponding statement.
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 27 March 2021 13: 01
            .
            That's why they put him in jail. But not
            Quote: Insurgent
            they closed it in a criminal way so as not to make him a prisoner of conscience.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 27 March 2021 13: 26
        0
        Quote: Insurgent
        But take it straight - they shut it down "in a criminal way" so as not to make him a "prisoner of conscience".

        Lotsik sits, slurps gruel, and his sidekick accomplices, both in Russia and in the West, have already begun to forget him, new Lotsiks, new problems have already appeared. No one cares about the contraceptive used and thrown into the trash can.
        From time immemorial, Russia has a negative attitude towards criminals, but various troublemakers and "revolutionaries" have always been pitied and even respected. So, having sat on the bunks for criminality, Lyotsik lost the patronage of the political beau monde.
        Now for everyone, Navalny is a criminal.
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 27 March 2021 13: 42
          +5
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Now for everyone, Navalny is a criminal.

          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 27 March 2021 15: 30
            .
            Quote: Insurgent
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Now for everyone, Navalny is a criminal.


            I agree, only Leshiko has no superjets and no estates on Lake Como either, and he did not sell cabbage to his employees at exorbitant prices.
            It seems to me that we are cutting the wrong heads.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 27 March 2021 15: 32
              +15
              Quote: Stroporez
              I agree, only Leshiko has no superjets and no estates on Lake Como either, and he did not sell cabbage to his employees at exorbitant prices.
              It seems to me that we are cutting the wrong heads.

              Well ... Let LETSYK come to power, and he will have EVERYTHING (well, this is his nature repeat "blue thief"), but you still have nothing ...
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 27 March 2021 17: 06
                .
                Quote: Insurgent
                Well ... Let LETSYK come to power, and he will have everything, but you still don't have a fig ...

                For me, they are one field of berries, with the only difference that Leshiko has not deceived me for 20 years.
                1. Simargl
                  Simargl 27 March 2021 21: 16
                  +2
                  lol
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Leshiko has not deceived me for 20 years.
                  Stage !!! good lol
                2. Insurgent
                  Insurgent 28 March 2021 07: 49
                  +8
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Quote: Insurgent
                  Well ... Let LETSYK come to power, and he will have everything, but you still don't have a fig ...

                  For me, they are one field of berries, with the only difference that Leshiko has not deceived me for 20 years.


                  Ha! fellow Alyosha is still young, and with proper care he will last over twenty ...
                3. Nick Casey
                  Nick Casey 28 March 2021 16: 35
                  +1
                  Lyokha fagot will arrange gay prides and LGBT weddings. And he will bring all this abomination from the west.
                  In my opinion, if you choose between two evils, LGBT propaganda or theft, it is better to let them steal.
                  Although, I think that becoming an LGBT person will not steal less.
                  1. Akuzenka
                    Akuzenka 29 March 2021 13: 27
                    +1
                    In my opinion, if you choose between two evils, LGBT propaganda or theft, it is better to let them steal.
                    Why choose them? For me - "a plague on both their houses."
                    1. Nick Casey
                      Nick Casey 29 March 2021 19: 12
                      +4
                      ,, For me - "a plague on both their houses" ,,

                      It is difficult to disagree with this. Only one thing confuses me. They steal everything the old fashioned way, so that no one knows. But LGBT people do not want to quietly. And they want the whole world to recognize their abnormality as the norm, and they also drag children into their swamp.
                      Imagine a parade of thieves in Red Square. And everyone shouts that it is good to steal, this is the norm. And they ask for more privileges, and they demand compensation for historical oppression.
            2. businessv
              businessv 27 March 2021 21: 28
              +6
              Quote: Stroporez
              I agree, only Leshiko has no superjets and no estates on Lake Como either, and he didn't sell cabbage to his employees at exorbitant prices.
              Please expand your saying! There are no superjets and estates, not because he earned money, but it was taken away from him! He tried to steal, but he was imprisoned, that's the problem. Leshik fulfills money that is given to him for the collapse of our country, but the more he spends for its intended purpose, the less he will have! That's how it spins, poor fellow, choosing between a pocket and bulk, who have to be paid for their work. As for the heads, you rightly noted, but it would be more accurate to say that we are not enough heads - many have long deserved to be headless in the literal and not figurative sense.
              1. Fan-fan
                Fan-fan 28 March 2021 08: 23
                .
                How stubbornly you want to prove that Navalny is an enemy of Russia. Will not work. The people see that Navalny is an enemy of thieves and swindlers who have occupied Russia.
                1. your1970
                  your1970 28 March 2021 14: 26
                  +10
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  How stubbornly you want to prove that Navalny is an enemy of Russia. Will not work. The people see that Navalny is an enemy of thieves and swindlers who have occupied Russia.

                  If Navalny - enemy to enemies Russia, then the money is transferred to him - friends Russia?
                  Last names - listing Millions of - can I go to the studio?
                  I just want to know very much, who loves Russia so much, that he gives his loot !!!!
                  I can pray for them repeat -Although an atheist ...
                2. businessv
                  businessv 29 March 2021 21: 03
                  0
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  How hard you want to prove that Navalny is an enemy of Russia. Will not work.
                  Well, if we count the Western special services, whose ears stick out from behind the bulk of our friends, then perhaps we can agree with you. Only the majority of mature and thinking people hardly think so.
                  The people see that Navalny is an enemy of thieves and swindlers who have occupied Russia.
                  He is himself a thief and a crook who is being used to his advantage. If you are attentive and able to analyze the situation, then you will agree with me, but if not, does it mean that you are being missed in vain? smile
    4. Hunter 2
      Hunter 2 27 March 2021 12: 32
      +3
      Quote: marchcat
      Traitor to the Motherland, imprisoned for theft - this is how to understand ... recourse

      What's the big difference? Already planted ... and then you see, and on the rest of the points will be added! Olyosha kept thinking jokes with him - they joke, hence the hysterics at the extreme (definitely not the last) court sessions.
      Bulk headquarters - prepare gears, 20 kg per month fellow
      1. YOUR
        YOUR 27 March 2021 12: 58
        -2
        Quote: Hunter 2
        What's the big difference?

        Yes it's big. In compliance with the law. Arrest and award a term solely for what he did. This is the difference.
        1. Hunter 2
          Hunter 2 27 March 2021 13: 04
          0
          Do you consider his (current) verdict unfounded?
          1. YOUR
            YOUR 27 March 2021 13: 07
            -5
            I believe that I was imprisoned for what is written in the verdict, and not
            Quote: Hunter 2
            What's the big difference?
            1. Fan-fan
              Fan-fan 28 March 2021 08: 25
              .
              Navalny was imprisoned only because he dared not die of poisoning.
              1. Sarboz
                Sarboz 28 March 2021 12: 11
                +9
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                Navalny was imprisoned only because he dared not die of poisoning.

                I told him: "The taverns and the women will bring them to the zugunder!" You need to drink less, gentlemen, oppositionists. The pancreas is not three-veined.
              2. your1970
                your1970 28 March 2021 14: 41
                +6
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                Navalny was imprisoned only because he dared not die of poisoning.

                last time- in Salisbury- took "Newbie" more seriously
                “It was announced two years ago that Skripal’s former home on Christie Miller Road was slated to return to service, following the completion of most of the clean-up work on the home with a Novichok-class nerve agent.
                In the wake of the Salisbury and Amesbury incidents, authorities cleaned up both the house itself and more than a dozen other facilities in and around the city. An operation called MORLOP was involved from 600 to 800 military specialists of chemical, biological, radiation protection, which took 13 thousand hours. One of the sources in the defense sector then noted that cleaning Skripal's house became the most difficult task and was carried out by teams of military specialists for three to four months."

                And here somehow everything is boring - the plane flies to itself on regular flights, the flight attendants are running along the aisles, none of the passengers were injured, even the neighbors in the chairs did not get hurt ... Not a single victim from the Novice - except Lesha ...

                Do not you think - what for combat a toxic substance somehow the lethality is too scanty? That in the case of use in war - would it be necessary to pour a Bucket into each enemy soldier a Novice? It's easier then with purgen ...
              3. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft 29 March 2021 21: 12
                +1
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                Navalny was imprisoned only because he dared not die of poisoning.

                Was he poisoned?
      2. Alien From
        Alien From 27 March 2021 13: 15
        +4
        Quite right! He will sit and think, and then you look and something else will come up ... the tactics of combating banditry in the 90s was like that ...
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 27 March 2021 13: 28
        -1
        Quote: Hunter 2
        What's the big difference? Already planted ... and then you look and they will add on the rest of the items!

        Sat for three years, will be released in five years. For the Lyotsik bazaar, you need to answer.
      4. Insurgent
        Insurgent 27 March 2021 14: 00
        +4
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Bulk headquarters - prepare gears, 20 kg per month

        These "staff" will definitely cook lol On the "heating" from such parteigenosse, who have already begun carving up the skin of the still living Alyoshka, he will not last long wassat

        RED MOLD

        Letter from grandson from places not so distant ...

        Contains non-normative vocabulary, link: https://youtu.be/jr0MLq7Lcl0
      5. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 27 March 2021 15: 04
        -1
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Bulk headquarters - prepare gears, 20 kg per month

        And his mug will not crack from 20 kg?
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 27 March 2021 15: 17
          -9
          Quote: tihonmarine
          And his mug will not crack from 20 kg?

          For all my disagreements with Lyokhina's position, we must pay tribute to his courage.
          Whatever one may say, now he is a political prisoner.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 27 March 2021 16: 54
            +9
            Quote: Stroporez
            Whatever one may say, now he is a political prisoner.

            Whatever one may say, whatever one does not twist, but his article is an ordinary criminal one. So he fell out of the ranks of political prisoners, no matter how liberals and adherents of the State Department squealed on the website.
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 27 March 2021 17: 24
              -3
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Whatever one may say, whatever one does not twist, but his article is an ordinary criminal one. So he fell out of the ranks of political prisoners, no matter how liberals and adherents of the State Department squealed on the website.

              If there was a neck, there would be a collar. Here, with all the others, well, register me as an agent of the State Department belay In addition, it is necessary to clarify that I am just a citizen of the Russian Federation and I broadcast from the Central Federal District and tell everyone, well, I will show you the ruins of factories, abandoned farms, a grown forest in the fields and the fifth city cemetery, which is replenished daily with new "tenants" ...
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 27 March 2021 20: 24
                -2
                Quote: Stroporez
                If there was a neck, there would be a clamp. Here, with all the others, well, register me as an agent of the State Department, well, too much.

                Hello! Well, you really completely pushed me to the fence. It's a shame that you thought so of me. And it is not you who stand up for this Lotsik for him, but those who are silent, and know that they will stick to him if they open their mouths.
                1. Fan-fan
                  Fan-fan 28 March 2021 08: 35
                  -7
                  Well, I'll open my mouth and what are you going to do to me? Will you put a minus and this is all your sticking? Yes, Aleksey really pissed off the thieves and crooks, since they were so excited. Or maybe someone will say that we have no thieves and crooks? In the article, the author accuses Lyokha of stealing millions of money, while the author is silent about the billions and even trillions stolen by officials in 20 years.
                  1. Sergey M. Karasev
                    Sergey M. Karasev 28 March 2021 16: 50
                    +2
                    God gave no horns to the thirsty cow. If Lyokha had been financed with trillions, he would have famously private them too. Do you think not?
              2. your1970
                your1970 28 March 2021 14: 51
                +2
                Dropped out, dropped out ... they didn't even support their own
                “The international human rights organization Amnesty International made a decision on the status of Alexei Navalny not under pressure from outside, but after a thorough analysis of his statements, the organization said.
                Earlier, she refused to consider Navalny a "prisoner of conscience" (this status was assigned to him a month and a half ago). The reason for the withdrawal was the statements of the politician from the mid-XNUMXs.
                Alexey Navalny in the hall of the Babushkinsky District Court - RIA Novosti, 10.02.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX
                "Claims that Amnesty's decision regarding Alexei Navalny was a response to outside pressure are untrue and do not take into account our long-standing and well-defined internal policies," the organization's website said in a statement.
                After within the movement, "concerns were raised about the reference to Navalny as a prisoner of conscience, given" his comments in the past, "Amnesty decided to reconsider the case and conducted a thorough analysis of the evidence base."

                so he is not a "prisoner of conscience" - but a banal criminal
            2. private person
              private person 27 March 2021 17: 30
              -8
              no matter how the liberals and adherents of the State Department screeched on the website.

              I am not a supporter of the oval, BUT the castle is ultimately whose?
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 27 March 2021 17: 38
                -5
                Quote: private person
                I am not a supporter of the oval, BUT the castle is ultimately whose?

                Get ready, Friend, now the bearers will tell you that you are an agent of the State Department.
                1. your1970
                  your1970 28 March 2021 15: 09
                  +4
                  Quote: private person
                  I am not a supporter of the oval, BUT the castle is ultimately whose?

                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Get ready, Friend, now the bearers will tell you that you are an agent of the State Department.

                  1) at unlimited HIS power - allegedly all non-living media sources - wait 15 years(!!!!!!!!!!) until they build it ?? Do you really believe in such a timeframe ?? Yes, there would be all the local authorities would carry bricks and pour concrete ... and build them - well, not in a month, of course ... in 45 days ...
                  2) go with a video camera to a construction site in your area to to any local oligarch (level from 3 stalls and 2 shops). I can bet on a bottle of cognac - that they may not be beaten, but the camera will be dropped for sure and you will get rid of it ...
                  And if the more serious one gets caught - then anything can be ...

                  Well, you believe in fairy tales - believe further ... but the timing of construction and general indifference in no way dovetail with the person to whom they are attributed ... no way ...
              2. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft 29 March 2021 21: 25
                0
                Quote: private person
                BUT the castle is ultimately whose?

                Order an extract from Rosreestr on real estate and find out (you just need to know the address or cadastral number of the "castle") ....
                Like children to God ...
  2. The leader of the Redskins
    The leader of the Redskins 27 March 2021 12: 11
    -6
    The title of the article, of course ... Breaks consciousness))) laughing
    1. The popuas
      The popuas 27 March 2021 12: 15
      0
      Yeah ... originally read Kazakhstan ... now looked at Kansas! request
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 27 March 2021 12: 20
        +1
        Quote: Popuas
        Yeah ... originally read Kazakhstan ... now looked at Kansas!

        Which Kazakhstan? Ridna Kansaschina, Leshenka is closer and dearer yes ...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 27 March 2021 13: 30
          -2
          Quote: Insurgent
          Ridna Kansaschina, Leshenka is closer and dearer

          Or rather Ridna Lviv region, Tarnopol region, Stanislav region.
          1. Insurgent
            Insurgent 27 March 2021 13: 40
            +13
            Quote: tihonmarine

            Or rather Ridna Lviv region, Tarnopol region, Stanislav region.


            It is there, "at the origins", their liberoid tribe, and draws its "sacred energy" ...

            1. sergo1914
              sergo1914 27 March 2021 14: 37
              +5
              Quote: Insurgent
              Quote: tihonmarine

              Or rather Ridna Lviv region, Tarnopol region, Stanislav region.


              It is there, "at the origins", their liberoid tribe, and draws its "sacred energy" ...



              From the photo. Budgerigars should be kept in pairs, otherwise they will be sad ...
      2. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 28 March 2021 08: 41
        .
        It is impossible to keep servers in Kazakhstan, there thieves and crooks will get them in no time. So Alexei did the right thing by using the servers in Kansas, our crooks have short hands to get there.
    2. sergo1914
      sergo1914 27 March 2021 12: 57
      -1
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      The title of the article, of course ... Breaks consciousness))) laughing



      I think the Author and the moderators find him witty. But someone laughs at the jokes of the "Full House" program.
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 27 March 2021 13: 21
        -9
        And there are enough of their own Petrosyans, as you can see ...
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 27 March 2021 15: 04
          -9
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          And there are enough of their own Petrosyans, as you can see ...

          More than.
  3. rocket757
    rocket757 27 March 2021 12: 14
    +2
    And after all, citizens believe ...
    ... Citizens believe in what they see! And in our "Danish Kingdom", not everything is in order ...
    Most are not for someone, but against something.
    And this, someone, just straddled the "hot", annoying ALL, topic.
    1. Gato
      Gato 27 March 2021 12: 35
      +2
      Most are not for someone, but against something.

      And how can you be against something without being for something? If you, for example, are against theft, then you are for honesty; if you, again, for example, are against Putin, then you probably have a more worthy candidate?
      Our younger brothers voted against Poroshenko - but it turned out that for Zelensky, that is, that we will kick in the owl, that we will kick the owl on the tree stump.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 27 March 2021 12: 43
        -2
        Textbook standard!
        Only sho is so shallow, against GDP, ha, ha ... for me, like me, this is shallow. I, we, against the SYSTEM. exploitation of creators, people of labor, freeloaders destroyers, in general.
        1. Gato
          Gato 27 March 2021 12: 48
          +2
          Textbook standard!

          Well, yes, according to the classics. Then let's write directly that you (and I too) are not against Navalny or Putin, but against capitalism in general, i.e. FOR socialism, since nothing else, more socially just in practical implementation, has not yet been invented.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 27 March 2021 12: 59
            -2
            Indeed, BUT, not all such textbooks have been read, therefore, they believe that the slogan "against everything good, for everything bad / against bad, for good" has some real, useful content in the hands / lips of their leaders !!! Sheer lies, reaching the point of complete delirium.
            They by all means, by hook or by crook, are trying to bury the eternal, fundamental, opposition of creators against destroyers !!!
            Capitalism versus socialism / communism.
            And it is not the terms that are important, but what they mean ....
        2. Nikon OConor
          Nikon OConor 27 March 2021 13: 04
          +5
          let's all be creators .., I'm a builder, let's say ... bake bread, Vasya Pupkin, turner ...
          Who should tell Vasya that you need a bread maker and I need to build you a bakery? Well, let's say we agreed, found each other ourselves, did everything and paid each other ..... You got sick - Vasya Pupkin prescribed metal shavings for you to cleanse your stomach, and I advised to eat ground bricks for this. There is no doctor, because he was not taught and there is no place to work. there is no state - SYSTEMS.
          Think for yourself, decide for yourself to have or not to have ...
          And yes, anarchists are always "minus"
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 27 March 2021 13: 36
            -3
            Precisely, you haven't read the textbooks ...
            It is bad when such people begin to talk about the world order, about statehood.
            Ignorant, what else can I say.
            Oh yes, there is no minus, but I can advise you to return to school.
            1. Nikon OConor
              Nikon OConor 27 March 2021 13: 39
              +2
              excuse me, you are a boor.
              that you, in my answer, did not satisfy.
              Constructively and on the topic please.
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 27 March 2021 13: 43
                -2
                What is anarchy? And what does the social structure of the STATE, about which there was a talk, have to do with it?
                Indeed, it is WRITTEN about this in the textbooks.
                1. Nikon OConor
                  Nikon OConor 27 March 2021 13: 45
                  +2
                  Anarchy is the denial of any state structure.
                  Your quote:
                  I, we, against the SYSTEM
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 27 March 2021 13: 56
                    +1
                    I have explained so many times what the SYSTEM is, that those who read know about it as a matter of course ... by the way, I'm not the only one here who wrote the same thing.
                    Simply put ... who is the ruling class? Capitalists.
                    The "biggest" of them, plus the top of various structures (controlling, supervising, commanding) form a conglomerate / closed "club", which is the SYSTEM that manages everything in the country precisely in its own interests.
                    And public "elective" faces simply convey to the citizens the decisions of the real masters of the country, to the citizens ... in a more, less, permissible, understandable form for them.
                    This is our state, with a standard system of government, just like in the rest of the world ... with rare exceptions.
                    Not anarchism, not monarchism, ordinary capitalism.
                    1. Nikon OConor
                      Nikon OConor 27 March 2021 13: 59
                      +2
                      Sorry, did you live in the RFSR? You are pouring water into the mill, and you yourself claim that it is so everywhere ... What do you need then? Some common phrases, spreading like an owl around the globe ...
                2. Nikon OConor
                  Nikon OConor 27 March 2021 13: 47
                  +1
                  Even more ... I understand that you are against the SYSTEM, because the system has not even taught you to correctly express your thoughts.
                  Execute, you can't pardon .. Does it sound familiar?
                  1. Nikon OConor
                    Nikon OConor 27 March 2021 14: 03
                    0
                    I have explained so many times what the SYSTEM is, that those who read know about it for granted ...

                    You are, sorry, far from the school teacher to explain anything to anyone.
                    Read your comments, correct grammar, style. Then say that they generally understand you ...
                    1. Fan-fan
                      Fan-fan 28 March 2021 08: 46
                      -3
                      System, system! What system are you talking about here? About the one that gives rise to thieves and crooks? I see this system, I don't see another.
                3. Nikon OConor
                  Nikon OConor 27 March 2021 13: 54
                  +2
                  And what does the social structure of the STATE, about which there was a talk, have to do with it?

                  What kind of state system did YOU speak about?
                  Capitalism versus socialism / communism.
                  And it is not the terms that are important, but what they mean.

                  So what do they mean? Just here you are scattering terms without knowing the essence.
                  Socialism is also a state system and also a SYSTEM!
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 27 March 2021 14: 17
                    0
                    Why were we assigned to the supporters of anarchy?
                    I am a supporter of the socialist system, that's all.
                    Now we have capitalism, the whole world is the same, do you have something to object?
                    There are exceptions, hybrids, but this practically does not change anything. The world is ruled by very rich people ... both in individual countries and in general. And again, do you have something to object?
                    1. Nikon OConor
                      Nikon OConor 27 March 2021 14: 27
                      +1
                      You yourself said that "I, we, are against the SYSTEM." Let me explain: In this context, the SYSTEM is the state (it does not matter under what state structure). Those. You are against the state as such (I didn’t say it, but you), so I called you an anarchist.
                      Now capitalism is not all over the world, you are mistaken, But even socialism / communism for which you are so concerned is also a system against which you oppose.
                      And what have those who rule the world have to do with it? In my first comment, I said that without the SYSTEM (state) we will go to the Stone Age, citing doctors as an example. And you spoke out for creators against managers ... learn history, when there were only creators without managers (parasite-destroyers, as you put it), there was a communal-clan system, but even there was even a manager - the head of the clan (community).
                      1. rocket757
                        rocket757 27 March 2021 14: 44
                        -1
                        You are very reminiscent of one ardent "communist" with whom you have to argue (to no avail) for many years ... he loves to generalize and speculate for others. From one word, from one phrase, and to stop it for the order “let's figure out what the conversation is about” is practically impossible.

                        I never spoke out against the state in general, so the accusation of anarchism was very surprising, even somewhat outraged.

                        For socialism, as for a social system, always for, although in disputes I often criticize the mistakes that the previous leadership of the USSR made.

                        Communism ... a beautiful dream, but .... what has not seen, it really does not make sense to discuss. Not a theorist, not mine.

                        Capitalism ... I see, and I have seen it before.
                        Much interesting, but much more negative ... in my opinion. As an idea of ​​a "bright future" for myself, descendants, in my opinion, not ice.

                        That's the whole philosophy. I hope it will be clear.
                      2. Nikon OConor
                        Nikon OConor 27 March 2021 15: 36
                        +1
                        Accepted! Forgive me for my ultimativism)) I understand, I didn’t finish writing here, and that’s all - sinful !!! Sorry again.
                        I also support socialism as a state system (communism is a utopia), and I agree with you that there are mistakes .. the wagon. But as I understand it, you mean the modern capitalist SYSTEM? Well, it was the same under the USSR (it was just not so highlighted, and not so pronounced). In order not to be unfounded: even under Iosif Vissarionovich, the top members of the Politburo committed abuses, and their "golden children in general committed lawlessness and outrageous crime." Sorry, I can't give you a link, but there is a special weekly program on TK "Zvezda" (I don't remember the name). After the death of the Great, it began in general ... I can't even think of a name, and it ended with the fact that thanks to the top of the party, at the age of 5, with my grandmother by the hand, I went 7 kilometers to the store on Saturdays on Saturdays to buy goods using coupons. Coupons were issued for me and for her, and our presence in the 4-hour queue was mandatory. Well, I think you yourself know all this. Even my mother (then still young, a member of the Komsomol, a future member of the party (not held due to the collapse), who every year went on vouchers to Tashkent, the Caucasus, the Black Sea (this is what I remember) and that wanted change, wanted 30 varieties of Pepsi sausages and jeans ...
                        In general, there is no complete justice in any state construction, somewhere more, where less, but there is no absolute.
                        Sincerely hi
                      3. rocket757
                        rocket757 27 March 2021 16: 24
                        -3
                        You can't just tell about the USSR, especially since it will be a subjective, personal opinion ...
                        For example, I regard the initial period of Soviet power as the most interesting ... Power of the Soviets !!! real control of the primary party organizations, labor collectives, over their cadres promoted to the top!
                        Then, the party and bureaucratic bureaucracy eliminated all this, i.e. secured themselves from any control from below! And all the same, the SYSTEM worked for the good of the country, the people, not forgetting itself, of course, but such a wild scale, negative phenomena did not reach ... if somewhere, something happened, they were punished for serious reasons, and not "kindly scolded " like now.

                        I don’t want to talk about the current system of power, I don’t want to talk about it ... the main thing is that it’s hard for the people to live, and the country is not in a childish way! And what prospects do we have, is that a question ???
                        Like this. I hope we figured out who is for what and why.
                      4. Nikon OConor
                        Nikon OConor 27 March 2021 16: 47
                        -1
                        Yes, I think the discussion is over, thank you.))
                      5. your1970
                        your1970 28 March 2021 15: 24
                        +2
                        Quote: rocket757
                        For example, I regard the initial period of Soviet power as the most interesting ... Power of the Soviets !!! real control of the primary party organizations, labor collectives, over their cadres promoted to the top!
                        Then, the party and bureaucratic bureaucracy eliminated all this, i.e. secured themselves from any control from below! And all the same, the SYSTEM worked for the good of the country, the people, not forgetting itself, of course, but such a wild scale, negative phenomena did not reach ... if somewhere, something happened, they were punished for serious reasons, and not "kindly scolded " like now.

                        Even based on your words - it turns out that the SYSTEM is unstable, worked crookedly and obliquely - and in the end ruined itself ...
                        For example, Christianity is stable (it exists for 2000 years), Islam is stable (1400 years) and even capitalism that has existed for 200 years is stable ...
                        And according to your (!!!!) words, socialism was stable for only 20-25 years, and then it began to destroy itself. And by the 70s the people had lost faith in it - from the idle talk of bureaucrats from the CPSU ... and then it was already not even important - the system punishes for a serious or affectionately reprimands ... everyone did not care ...

                        and socialism died - and no one stood up for it, no one raised a division / army, no one put traitors against the wall, no one took the Belovezhskaya Trinity into the courtyard to the outhouse ...

                        No one...
                      6. rocket757
                        rocket757 28 March 2021 17: 38
                        -3
                        Quote: your1970
                        No one...

                        And what follows from this?
                        You have written long arguments .... but what is the conclusion?
                      7. your1970
                        your1970 28 March 2021 21: 28
                        +2
                        Quote: rocket757
                        Quote: your1970
                        No one...

                        And what follows from this?
                        You have long arguments ... have written, and what conclusion?
                        -you made it yourself ...
                        Quote: rocket757
                        Then, the party and bureaucratic bureaucracy eliminated all this, i.e. secured themselves from any control from below!

                        and even if now ... suddenly ... in an unknown way ... socialism would return again - history would repeat itself in a circle and the bureaucrats would kill him again
                      8. rocket757
                        rocket757 28 March 2021 21: 34
                        -1
                        This is not a conclusion, this is a statement of what happened.
                        Let's go bolder, say / say A, tell me what B is like.
                      9. your1970
                        your1970 28 March 2021 21: 55
                        +1
                        Quote: rocket757
                        This is not a conclusion, this is a statement of what happened.
                        Let's go bolder, say / say A, tell me what B is like.

                        in my opinion, the System was too dependent on specific people at the head of itself.
                        Stalin hit - the system lived and developed, got the MSG - the system died, immediately and without delay ...
                        And such too much dependence on the leader makes the system unviable. By and large, Catholicism was not on a drum - who is the Pope in Rome - the system worked and cleaned itself. The same thing happened in Orthodoxy and Islam
                        And our System - could not develop and self-clean without a pointer from Moscow ...
                        Unfortunately, this is precisely why the repetition of socialism is most likely impossible. Anarchy is easy, rebellion is quite likely, socialism is not real ...
                        A banal example - here on the page one half spits on the head of the second half for the slightest reason, the dispute about the Revolution after 100 years is not completed, there are different opinions about the Civil War and even about the Second World War ...
                        Until now, people with different views have not tried on and have not come to a common opinion on the events of a century ago ...

                        So, if something happens to you Olgovich (and not only !!) - you will have to lead into the ravine ...

                        And it is not at all a fact that after this the people will immediately become happy
                      10. your1970
                        your1970 28 March 2021 22: 26
                        +1
                        And more to the question of the stability of the socialist system (adjacent topic)
                        Quote: Mikhail3
                        A tenfold decrease in product quality is a complete failure of the production management. Collapse. Not for the first (and not for the tenth) time in the research of military production, we see how the Soviet authorities blindly fail everything that was entrusted to him. Alas, Stalin did not manage to really well establish the technology for the production of bosses. The administrative vertical of the USSR turned out to be ineffective, and the measures taken could not save it from degeneration, especially when the main Stalinist system of influence - the fear of personal reprisals - was removed. In the end, this destroyed the USSR. A very dreary story.
                      11. rocket757
                        rocket757 28 March 2021 23: 17
                        -1
                        There is no such thing, everything is simple and unambiguous ...
                        This thematic discussion can start and end it ... but it will not end !!!
                        And we, the country, need to move forward, develop and .... a lot of things to do!
                        Let the goal is blurred, the leading ones are unclear, the resources are not ah, the people are not very rushing forward ... but it is NECESSARY !!! otherwise it will be definitely WORSE!
                    2. rocket757
                      rocket757 28 March 2021 23: 11
                      0
                      Quote: your1970
                      in my opinion, the System was too dependent on specific people at the head of itself.

                      A specific situation created by specific people, for specific purposes ... a big minus, but all this is a special case, a form / method of government, but this is not a sign, not an indicator of the socialist system as such.
                      Quote: your1970
                      Unfortunately, this is precisely why the repetition of socialism is most likely impossible.

                      I do not agree, a particular case cannot call into question that something is global.
                      My opinion...
                      Quote: your1970
                      Civil and even about the Second World War ...
                      Until now, people with different views have not tried on and have not come to a common opinion on the events of a century ago ...

                      I am equal to the opponents of civil confrontation ... it's time to close the case!
                      And those who are ready to welcome the invaders are minuscule / at the level of error and they are not held in high esteem ...
                    3. your1970
                      your1970 29 March 2021 12: 19
                      +1
                      Quote: rocket757
                      but all this is a special case, the form / method of government, but this is not a sign, not an indicator of the socialist system as such.

                      This is exactly general the case turned out to be under the given system. Lenin bend his, Stalin his, Khrushchev his, Brezhnev his, Gorbachev his ...
                      The apparatus with each general secretary changed the direction and goals of the work.
                      And this gives rise to a new line of bureaucrats and opportunists.
                      Abstract justice proclaimed as a goal has never been a goal for this apparatus.
                      Ideology was twisted by whoever he wanted and where he wanted ...
                      Socialism of Brezhnev had nothing to do with Stalin's socialism and could not have ...
                      And I suspect that Lenin would have been shocked by Gorbachev's socialism ...
                      Yes, banal - my age was jealous of the jeans of the daughter of the director of the district consumer union. All...
                      And this means - that our parents born in 1940-50s were no longer ideological enough - once they missed our upbringing
                      By and large, socialism was born and died in literally 8 generations of people
                    4. rocket757
                      rocket757 29 March 2021 13: 25
                      +1
                      So it turns out that we can associate all jambs with specific faces! This is the same for any system.
                      For the descendants to look back, remember how NOT SHOULD be and try to build their own as SHOULD.
                      That is why a person is given brains .... knowledge and common sense, he himself must collect and apply in business.
                    5. your1970
                      your1970 29 March 2021 16: 49
                      0
                      Quote: rocket757
                      For the descendants to look back, remember how NOT SHOULD be and try to build their own as SHOULD.

                      So how NECESSARY?
                      There is a plant, should it be nationalized? Is it necessary?
                      But as?
                      Just take away, so there are a lot of import shareholders, who tomorrow will impose even tougher sanctions on us, deprive us of access to the international market ...
                      Buy back? So money is needed for this ...
                      And even if all the oligarchs have their pockets turned out, it's not a fact that enough will be enough ...
                      And when the pockets are turned inside out, the imported bourgeois will again be severely affected. Again sanctions ..
                      And we will find ourselves in 1918 - in military communism ...
                      Which arose not because the imperialists loved the Romanovs or the Russian Empire - but because they terribly loved their "factories, newspapers, steamships"
                      And the new "Iron Curtain" ...

                      But the problem here will also be that then the people were happy with the ration of bread (after WWI) - and now they want an iPhone and a foreign car.
                      By depriving us of access to this, world imperialism will deprive the mass popular support of the new socialism.
                      And here the slogan will no longer help: "But we hanged all the oligarchs on Red Square !!!"
                      Then the proletariat had nothing to lose - bunks in the barracks, nothing more. And now everything will be much sadder ...
                      Moreover, a reverse flow is possible "And what for is your socialism to us ?? You can't buy anything, just the director and I are driving on the Volga ..."
                      And this, by the way, was also in 1918-1919. "Why was the Tsar overthrown? To walk with a bare bottom?"

                      Then you could have promised - now the promise of a "bright future" will be enough for a year, no more ...
                    6. rocket757
                      rocket757 29 March 2021 19: 05
                      +1
                      Global events do not happen by themselves ... and then we take a textbook and learn, learn, prepare as much as necessary ..... in a hurry, quickly, nothing good will come of it.
                    7. your1970
                      your1970 29 March 2021 22: 18
                      +1
                      Quote: rocket757
                      Global events do not happen by themselves ... and then we take a textbook and learn, learn, prepare as much as necessary ..... in a hurry, quickly, nothing good will come of it.
                      -only, troubles, now there are people who remember how it really worked in the USSR and what shoals there were - and in 5-10-15 years they will not be there anymore. And modern youth already now has a closer formula of capitalism - than abstract socialism for them
                      Do you understand that children are already going to school with those who did not find the USSR at all? Those who were born after 1991 ?!
                    8. rocket757
                      rocket757 30 March 2021 08: 30
                      0
                      Young people, at all times, have been more difficult to convince, especially in what they do not see, do not feel with their own eyes ... and when they see, feel very different, it is not possible to convince at all!
                      I don't try to convince my pupils of anything ... I teach to understand / analyze and correctly assess what happened, what is happening and what may happen!
                      Do not try to think for them, you need to teach them to think for themselves!
                      Maximum, I try to give them "correct, reliable anchors", so that they would have something to cling to in the future "raging sea of ​​life", so that they would not be ripped off and carried along the waves ...
  • Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 27 March 2021 14: 54
    -4
    Quote: rocket757
    I am a supporter of the socialist system, that's all.

    Support!
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 27 March 2021 16: 28
      +5
      Dreams, dreams, for many, by the way.
      Here are just the unifying principle, the center, which was believed and followed, is not yet visible. Alas.
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 27 March 2021 17: 45
      -1
      Quote: rocket757
      Dreams, dreams, for many, by the way.
      Here are just the unifying principle, the center, which was believed and followed, is not yet visible. Alas.

      And we ourselves do not want to unite, completely not understanding who our main enemy really is.
      Confusion and vacillation, and so in no way do we want to view Putinism as a class enemy.
    3. rocket757
      rocket757 27 March 2021 18: 30
      -1
      The class enemy does not sleep, experienced, different methods, ways to challenge the people, he has many.
      Therefore, the confusion of the "troops".
      Now, in simple terms, it will not work itself ... but in another way, no one has figured it out, does not know how.
    4. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 27 March 2021 18: 57
      0
      Quote: rocket757
      The class enemy does not sleep, experienced, different methods, ways to challenge the people, he has many.

      By the way, they are just waging a struggle with us in accordance with classical Marxism-Leninism (turn it around) with the addition of soft Italian fascism (Nightingales about Duce) and total gibbelsyatin. Hence, we have an unnatural decline in the population of almost 600 thousand souls over the past year. The whole city died out!
      The hitler never dreamed of such a scale ...
    5. rocket757
      rocket757 27 March 2021 19: 43
      0
      At the moment, it is futile to simply fight against someone.
      Now the struggle is precisely for what is most important, for the youth! This is our future, which many want to take away ...
      This is the most dangerous thing, in my opinion.
  • Simargl
    Simargl 27 March 2021 21: 23
    +2
    Quote: rocket757
    I, we, against the SYSTEM.
    Are you in favor of anarchy?
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 27 March 2021 22: 11
      0
      Already not funny.
      1. Simargl
        Simargl 27 March 2021 22: 36
        0
        Quote: rocket757
        Already not funny.
        Right!
        Because even slave, even communist - system.
        ANARCHY (Greek anarchia - anarchy) - a concept by which the state of society is designated, achievable as a result of the abolition of state power.
        You are against the system, i.e. for anarchy. Are there "excuses"?
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 28 March 2021 07: 20
          0
          Now it's FUNNY!
          But not interesting.
    2. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 28 March 2021 08: 50
      -3
      Yes, we are against a system that allows you to lie and steal with impunity, against a system that allows you to build palaces for yourself with state money, and even take away those scanty pensions from the people.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 28 March 2021 09: 42
        0
        We figured out the previous one ... there were misunderstandings in the terminology, in fact, we are for the socialist path of development. For the Socialist State.
        We will not repeat ourselves, everything is written above.
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 28 March 2021 13: 26
          +1
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          against a system that allows state money to build palaces for itself

          Quote: rocket757
          For the Socialist State.
          Are you, are you together?
          Tell what is nomenclature under the socialist system?
      2. Simargl
        Simargl 28 March 2021 13: 23
        0
        Quote: Fan-Fan
        Yes, we are against a system that
        No! Nothing but words
        Quote: rocket757
        I, we, against the SYSTEM.
        I have not seen. And since there is no clarification, not even a hint, then I decided to clarify. Judging by the reaction - you guys are still skakuas!
        ... "I, we" ... aha!
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 27 March 2021 15: 00
    0
    Quote: rocket757
    Most are not for someone, but against something.

    Always and everywhere, the main idea is against whom and against what. And they will put in whoever is needed without us.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 27 March 2021 16: 26
      +1
      So we need what for the country and for us ... because we are all a country! Her support and wealth!
  • bar
    bar 27 March 2021 12: 37
    +2
    That Skopinsky maniac, then bulk. What is this pair for? Is there nothing more to talk about at VO?
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 27 March 2021 12: 40
    +2
    I do not support Navalny in everything (it is worth admitting that he reveals corruption and "patriotism" of individual "patriots" in state support beautifully), but the phrase
    ... few supporters of this character
    slightly gives a lie. A lot of them. And the country's leadership and numerous bureaucratic brethren are doing everything to ensure that there are more of them.
    1. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 27 March 2021 12: 48
      +2
      slightly gives a lie. A lot of them
      Read the comments on his muzzle book. And look who they are from. Half (about that) are from Ukraine. Ten percent are Georgians. About one in eight live abroad. Something like this.
      By the way, although the ukrokommenators will sand him for "nebuterbrod", they openly say that under him Russia will become shitty and we will be able to take Crimea back to ourselves. Therefore, it needs to be supported.
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 27 March 2021 12: 53
        0
        Quote: Bolt Cutter
        slightly gives a lie. A lot of them
        Read the comments on his muzzle book. And look who they are from. Half (about that) are from Ukraine. Ten percent are Georgians. About one in eight live abroad. Something like this.
        By the way, although the ukrokommenators will sand him for "nebuterbrod", they openly say that under him Russia will become shitty and we will be able to take Crimea back to ourselves. Therefore, it needs to be supported.


        I would suggest looking at the Internet sources of GDP, but ... Do Georgians and Ukrainians frolic there too? Let's be honest, the people's rating of Putin ... And Navalny is not to blame for this.
        1. Bolt cutter
          Bolt cutter 27 March 2021 13: 07
          +1
          Let's be honest, Putin's people's rating
          Of course not 146%. But if tomorrow there is a nationwide vote (not in an expensive club, but a nationwide vote), then more than 5% will not shine for Navalny.
          There are also Georgians and Ukrainians
          Seriously, check out his page for yourself. Yes, there are many who went over the hill on a leather rocket. lol - and this Olena van der Westkuisen from Holland (she got married from her native Zhmerinka) teaches Russians how to live wassat
          1. sergo1914
            sergo1914 27 March 2021 14: 40
            0
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            more than 5% does not shine for Navalny.


            You have now made a lot of mistakes in the word “Putin”. Is Autocomplete being naughty?
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 27 March 2021 14: 46
              0
              Do you sincerely believe that Sisyan will collect at least a relative majority in the All-Russian elections?
              1. sergo1914
                sergo1914 27 March 2021 14: 49
                -3
                Quote: Bolt Cutter
                Do you sincerely believe that Sisyan will collect at least a relative majority in the All-Russian elections?


                And who will gain more than 5%? Woffka? Well, if it's okay to count. Well, no, all pre-retirees are for him. Who else?
                1. Bolt cutter
                  Bolt cutter 27 March 2021 14: 55
                  0
                  Yes, there are many. And the military, and cops, and ordinary people, too, there are many. For Lukashenko, too, it seems, only he himself and Kolyana, without popular support, he would now organize a collective farm in the Rostov region. And he had it - with 5% support for politicians is dead.
                  well, all pre-retirees are for him.
                  Unlike shkolotronov, they can vote.
                2. Flooding
                  Flooding 27 March 2021 19: 56
                  -2
                  Quote: sergo1914
                  And who will gain more than 5%? Woffka?

                  You are biased.
                  Objectivity should not depend on likes and dislikes.
                  1. Fan-fan
                    Fan-fan 28 March 2021 08: 59
                    -7
                    Here are the 2013 elections - on September 9, the Moscow City Electoral Commission announced a preliminary victory for Sobyanin in the first round with a result of 51,37%; Mitrokhin - 3,51%, Navalny - 27,24%, . . .
                    Well, almost 30% of the vote and in the face of opposition from the authorities? What about fair elections?
          2. Simargl
            Simargl 27 March 2021 21: 27
            +3
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            then more than 5% does not shine for Navalny
            Do you believe it? 2% is a lot.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 27 March 2021 14: 19
          -1
          Quote: sergo1914
          Let's be honest, Putin's people's rating ...

          Uh-huh ... In two thousand shaggy years one opera spoke to me: "Vovan, I respected him ..., but he went to three funny letters ..."
        3. Insurgent
          Insurgent 27 March 2021 15: 07
          +3
          Quote: sergo1914
          Let's be honest, the people's rating of Putin ... And Navalny is not to blame for this.

          Lyotsyk is guilty in love, he didn't get hurt wassat He would die in great pain, then Putin's rating would collapse ...

          Klyati Omsk doctors am
          1. Fan-fan
            Fan-fan 28 March 2021 09: 01
            -7
            But German doctors interfered with these plans.
            1. Insurgent
              Insurgent 28 March 2021 09: 13
              +4
              Quote: Fan-Fan
              But German doctors interfered with these plans.

              No ... Just "German doctors", including the infamous Charite clinic and some" Bundeswehr specialists "were part of a sinister plan to promote the bulk of the bulk.

              But, something "went wrong" (perhaps from Moscow to Berlin was sent certain information what ) and Lyotsyk found himself on a bunk, like a king at a name day ...
              1. Fan-fan
                Fan-fan 28 March 2021 09: 27
                -7
                He ended up on the bunk because he did not die and dared to publish an investigation into his poisoning, and the Europeans proved the use of chemical weapons in the poisoning, which Russia undertook to destroy and not produce. It is this chemical weapon that worries the world much more than Navalny himself.
                1. Herman 4223
                  Herman 4223 28 March 2021 10: 53
                  +1
                  And only Russia could have poisoned him?
                  And what about the fact that he eat himself in crime. That he studied in the USA under the World Leaders program, but who will be taken there just like that?
                  And what kind of poisoning is this if what is called a beginner has a lethal dose of 0,001 grams? Didn't get enough sleep, did you regret it?
                2. avia12005
                  28 March 2021 11: 41
                  +2
                  How ... And where can I look at the materials of the investigation? Or is it OBS - one grandmother said?
  • Nikon OConor
    Nikon OConor 27 March 2021 12: 50
    +5
    In the meantime, the blogger's naive adherents continue to supply the FBK brigade and Navalny personally with the means to ensure their comfortable existence. This whole picture strongly resembles the famous scene from the famous novel by Ilya Ilf and Yevgeny Petrov "Twelve Chairs"

    The blogger's naive adherents have never read either The 12 Chairs or The Golden Calf, so the author naively believes that they know who Ilf and Petrov are.
    1. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 28 March 2021 09: 06
      -9
      Well, I know about Ilf and Petrov, but it won't hurt me to send money to FBK. By the way, the author wrote that in 2017 there were 16 thousand translations, in 2019 there were already 115 thousand. How many in 2020? I think much more.
  • tatra
    tatra 27 March 2021 12: 59
    0
    Everything is clear with the West and Navalny, the question is in Putin, why has he been rather supportive of Navalny for many years, and the previous trial over Navalny, when he was found guilty and given only a suspended sentence, was a parody of the trial, right now he decided to put Navalny in prison ...
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 27 March 2021 13: 53
      -3
      It's just that Navalny forced Putin to give his palace to Rotenberg laughing abid ... you understand
    2. Simargl
      Simargl 27 March 2021 21: 34
      +1
      Quote: tatra
      , just now decided to put Navalny in jail.
      Remember how beautifully it was done: on December 29, 2020, they file it for the federal search, and they wrote it in all the newspapers. And by January 17 he was kicked out, tk. otherwise it would have to react through Interpol ...
    3. Fan-fan
      Fan-fan 28 March 2021 09: 08
      -5
      a question in Putin why he has been rather supportive of Navalny for many years
      Putin has never been supportive of Navalny. Give at least one such statement by Putin.
  • Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 27 March 2021 13: 00
    0
    In Russia, there are several hundred thousand criminals from among the hucksters, thieves and swindlers ... what is the point of constantly singling out one rogue from this mass of criminals and imposing some kind of "memory" about him on society? It is a pity, of course, that they were not involved in anti-state activities in favor of foreign states. Well, okay. For me, so the "pissing boy" was turned into a piss dog, and rightly so!
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 27 March 2021 13: 11
    0
    Wah!
    They imprisoned N, and the Duma immediately adopted a law on justifying corruption. Unexpected.
    The one on which he caught N all Duma members and officials.
    Fazenda is there for his mother-in-law over the hill, a share in a hotel for his uncle, children in Omerik, funds for servicing real estate ........

    All these years, the listed LLCs were not there, they were not, but they were planted - everything appeared right there ...
    And an LLC in Latvia, and an Internet address in YUSA, and some T-shirts for 700 rubles ...

    And where did all this happen before, since anyone could "expose" that?
    (reminds Grudinin - when he was Putinets - everything was OK, how he went to the polls without permission - they immediately found billions abroad, real estate in the same place, incorrect privatization and dragged them through the courts ..... But the "oppositionist and family friend" Sobchak permission asked and was covered in chocolate)

    Or?
    As they said, a broken brick won't answer.
    Anyone can be next to him as a karate master. Even if he picked it up split from the ground ...

    Now they will blame everyone (without bringing it to court, of course, they may demand more substantial evidence ...).
    1. Antidote
      Antidote 27 March 2021 15: 09
      -2
      LLC in Latvia and internet addresses in yusa - so that Roskompozor does not close it at the click of his fingers for any pretext. Does someone make you take T-shirts? A kind of support with a walrus, no more.
    2. your1970
      your1970 28 March 2021 15: 32
      -1
      Quote: Max1995
      they immediately found billions abroad, real estate in the same place, incorrect privatization and dragged them through the courts

      -in fact, the boil with strawberries, improper privatization, as well as the sale of 2 plots of agricultural land under the shopping center was almost over 10 years(!!!!!!!!!!) before the election
      1. Maks1995
        Maks1995 29 March 2021 08: 54
        0
        Maybe he was.
        But Grudinin was either Putin's dov-face, or Eidelstein's friend, so the whole country found out only before the elections ... and then everything disappeared again ...
        1. your1970
          your1970 29 March 2021 12: 25
          0
          Well, who wanted - read the news, who did not want to know - looked at the box ...
          Everything was usual there, nothing new, the old scheme, SPK-OJSC-ZAO ...
          And by the way, nothing has disappeared - passions are simmering. His wife sued him for a divorce.
          Both can be sold at any time - ZAO, the consent of the shareholders is not required, and to anyone - even Obama or Trump ...
          1. Maks1995
            Maks1995 29 March 2021 12: 53
            -1
            Lost the President's Confidence ....
  • parusnik
    parusnik 27 March 2021 14: 33
    0
    Some thieves are in power, other thieves are striving for power, that's all Russian political science. I remember that our mayor said at a meeting with voters. Here you tell me that I am a thief. Yes, I steal. And you think that one will come instead of me. who will not steal.? Of course, they re-elected him, they chose another one of the same kind. They did not put him in jail, but offered to leave voluntarily. I focused on something else. So it is at the county level.
  • Herman 4223
    Herman 4223 28 March 2021 10: 19
    +1
    It doesn't matter if Navalny is telling the truth or lying. I think there is both. The bottom line is why he does it and in favor of whom.
    Navalny is a man who studied in the USA under the program of world leaders, because we all understand that some kind of Uncle Petya will not be taken there to study for the sake of friendship of peoples.
    By the way, many like patriots, Prilepin, Mikheev, Semin, were trained in various programs in the United States.
  • st2st
    st2st 28 March 2021 14: 11
    0
    UFSIN, yes, send this wonderful miracle to the colony OV 94/5, in the village of Balta, Mukhorshibirsky district, the Republic of Buryatia (this is a tuberculosis zone), he will sit, eat tubazite tablets, and, there, and you look, - to the local will go in the spring, the question with the idiot will be closed
  • Hello
    Hello 28 March 2021 17: 27
    -1
    Hosting a website outside of Russia is common and normal. You need to understand the issue in order to draw conclusions in a technical topic, otherwise you will be like the author of this ridiculous article. Freedom and health to Navalny!
  • Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 28 March 2021 21: 53
    0
    From this point of view, there is an analogy with Lenin.

    Take power at any cost, accept help from anyone, etc.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 29 March 2021 07: 47
    0
    Quote: Fan-Fan
    How stubbornly you want to prove that Navalny is an enemy of Russia. Will not work. The people see that Navalny is an enemy of thieves and swindlers who have occupied Russia.

    "Half a percent" you, not the people)))
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 29 March 2021 09: 10
      -1
      Well, among my acquaintances a lot of people are not for Navalny, but is it bad against theft? and Navalny, Oval, the anal topic raises - this is the second ..
  • mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 29 March 2021 09: 34
    +2
    Whoever said anything, but the minds of young people and part of people of mature age, the ideas promoted by Navalny captured.
    For example, in one office, 23-year-old specialists and their leadership (over 30) are all uniformly against Putin and EdR, but for Navalny and his investigation.
    Our state is losing the battle for the minds in stages.
    Maidan sentiments have not disappeared anywhere, and in the kitchens there are many who grumble about corruption, the lawlessness of those in power and their children, as well as other things that everyone understands.
    If Navalny had not been so clearly connected with the Western special services - it seems that many others who still support Putin have turned to him ...
    I think that pushing dissatisfaction with Omon and Sobr, as well as the teaching staff, is understandable and sometimes necessary, but think about how to remove people who have flown into Navalny's wave and make them at least neutral.
    Here patriotism, some kind of national idea of ​​the Russian world, the greatness of Russia, would help.
    But in 25 years, there have been no such ideas for the state. they did not begin to promote it, there is no patriotism as it was (I'm not talking about everyone, but about the above-mentioned pro-bulk people).
    With the arrival of Gundyaev, religion also turns from year to year into business and political support for the current course, because Gundyaev can give speeches very nicely and quite skillfully ...
    Somehow, everything continues to go down the knurled, but a slope. God forbid, what will happen to Putin, or neighbors, suddenly, will lead to the promises of the United States and betray - here we will have worse than the 90s, because no other chance for revival, at least in the sense of sovereignty and the army will not give us any more.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 29 March 2021 10: 42
    0
    Quote: 2 level advisor
    Well, among my acquaintances a lot of people are not for Navalny, but is it bad against theft? and Navalny, Oval, the anal topic raises - this is the second ..

    Did I write somewhere that stealing is good?
  • zontov79
    zontov79 29 March 2021 15: 51
    0
    Yes, we all know who he is, and we all know who is in power. And from this it is doubly insulting, not even insulting - disgusting !! But these ghouls expose each other and it is good for us! Whenever possible we will judge and execute them!