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Four-day workweek: The Spanish started. When in Russia?

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Source: changellenge.com


Breeze of the West


In Russia, for the first time, Dmitry Medvedev spoke about the introduction of a four-day working week in July 2019 during the International Labor Conference.

The initiative was quietly laughed at, not considering it any serious. How is it, Medvedev proposes to appoint three days off: Friday, Saturday and Sunday?

Meanwhile, a four-day work week is an idea that has been tested in the world for more than a decade.


Source: blogs.klerk.ru

United Kingdom
They first tried to switch to three days off a week at the British Roundpay Metal Finishers back in 1965.

Despite the generally positive results of the experiment, the experience did not receive mass implementation.

USA
Much later, in 2008, the state administration of the American state of Utah decided to switch to the "four-day" in a rather original way.

It was necessary to reduce the cost of lighting.

And the Americans simply increased the working day to 10 hours, adding one day off to workers.

The citizens did not like it.

And the savings on electricity turned out to be not so large-scale.

New Zealand
In 2018, New Zealanders at the Perpetual Guardian cut portions of their employees by 20% in a rigorous experiment.

Everything was carried out in accordance with the scientific method - with the control and experimental groups, as well as testing the participants in 17 parameters.

The conclusions were mixed.

On the one hand, employees' stress levels were expected to decrease and their well-being improved.

On the other hand, labor productivity at the enterprise did not suffer. This may indicate that initially the Perpetual Guardian was not particularly good at employee efficiency.

Simply put, if before the experiment, workers were idle at the workplace 20% of the time, now they were doing the same at home. But in the conditions of a four-day work week, of course, they began to work harder and with more motivation.

The results of the experiment were considered rather successful.

But they did not transfer it to the whole company. This was largely due to the imperfection of labor legislation.


Source: work.ua

Japan
Microsoft's Japanese subsidiary conducted a similar experiment with office workers in antecedent 2019.

Within a month, working hours were reduced by 20% for 2300 employees at once. Naturally, this did not affect wages in any way.

During the experiment, employees began to use electronic document management, online chats and video conferencing more actively. Microsoft calculated that office productivity increased by 40%, electricity costs fell by 23%, and paper consumption dropped by 59%. It turned out that a four-day work week can be not only economically beneficial, but also environmentally friendly.

But this time too, the Japanese from Microsoft did not dare to fully implement the shortened week.

They were frightened by the reaction of consumers.

And also too short an experiment with a small number of participants. More extensive research was required.

Spain
The most recent and largest experiment in introducing the 32-hour workweek was the Spanish initiative.

In the very near future, a three-year pilot project will start in the country to transfer from 3 to 6 thousand workers to a four-day work week.

The state plans to allocate several tens of millions of euros to cover the associated costs of the companies involved in the experiment.

The country has been hit hard by the pandemic. And the authorities need to increase labor productivity. Albeit with the introduction of a four-day work week.

As you can see, there are quite a few quite successful transitions to a new work schedule in the world. And with a very high degree of probability, we can talk about the inevitability of the transition to 32 working hours per week. The only question is about the date of such a bright future.

Why is nothing in Russia still beyond the scope of the declarations of officials?

The way of Russia


Briefly about the dynamics of changes in working time in Russia since the end of the XNUMXth century.

Until 1897, the working day was generally not limited by law. And it could last up to 16 hours a day. The first mitigation happened in 1897 with the introduction of 11,5 hours of work per day for men, and 10 hours for women and children. One day off and no vacation. And that was by and large a formality - no one limited overtime unpaid working hours.

The October Revolution brought workers a 48-hour work week with a constant day off - Sunday. In 1928, they even switched to a 7-hour working day. But in 1940 they returned to the standard 8 hours a day. During the war years, up to 3 overtime hours became mandatory.

After Khrushchev returned the 1956-hour workday with one day off in 7, eleven years later, a 40-hour weekly work schedule and two days off were approved.

With minor evolutions, this regime has survived to the present day.

As we can see, over the course of decades, the working time of the Soviet worker has been declining. At least on paper.

And a couple of years ago, Dmitry Medvedev suggested taking the next step - switching to a 32-hour work week. Do not reduce the working day to 7 hours, but immediately remove one working day. Naturally, with the preservation of wages. The Prime Minister (at the time of the announcement) named the technological development of Russia as one of the reasons for this innovation.

I just forgot to mention that in terms of labor productivity we are two times lagging behind developed countries. And this lag has not decreased in recent decades. It is for this reason that since 1967 nothing has changed in the labor regime.

Four-day workweek: The Spanish started. When in Russia?
Source: expert.ru

Cons
Such a revolutionary proposal by Medvedev has many negative sides.

First of all, not all employers (especially in private business) are ready to cut employees' working time by 1/5. According to polls by the Moscow branch of OPORA Rossii, up to 66% of entrepreneurs do not approve of Medvedev's initiative.

If the state obliges to pay the employee the same wages, then with a possible drop in labor productivity, prices for products will have to be raised. This will cause inflation in the market and a host of negative social consequences. The employer can take a different route. And when switching to a "four-day", simply increase the working day to 10 hours. On paper, of course, everything will be according to 8-hour norms.

Another way out is in a proportional decrease in employees' salaries. For this reason, workers will have to look for additional sources of income. And then the working week can last for all seven days.

Pros
However, the positive aspects of the four-day work week prevail.

The employee will have the opportunity to spend eight hours more time with his family, spend it on creativity, study, active rest and self-development.

The population's happiness index will rise.

Now Russia is somewhere in the sixth ten in the world ranking. For example, the Scandinavian countries, which have been at the top of the happiness list for many years, are very attentive to their working regime and in no case do they overwork. Overtime is considered very bad form for them.

Of course, in Russia, the stratum of low-skilled labor resources, who drink all three instead of two days off a week, will not go anywhere. And this is, of course, a serious risk that should be taken into account.

The stress level from troubles at work will be expected to decrease. And, as a consequence, the incidence rate (injury rate) across the entire population will fall.

In many ways, the introduction of a four-day working week can become a kind of apology from the state for raising the retirement age.

Unemployment will decrease.

Now, for the working regime of the enterprise, the employer will have to hire more employees for shift work. Particularly zealous owners, so as not to expand the staff, will start renewing the production fund. New equipment requires fewer workers. A lot of money is needed for this on a national scale - on average, everything is worn out by 50–70%.

If finances are found, then labor productivity will finally grow in Russia, which is the focus of the national program “Labor productivity and employment support”. The program is scheduled to be completed by 2030.

Labor productivity can also increase due to a tighter work schedule, increased motivation and high performance of rested employees.

The workers will even be able to improve their financial condition. After all, the third day off can be spent on additional earnings. For freelance, for example.

But all this reasoning about the Russian prospects for a four-day working week is still purely theoretical. And do not go beyond the model.

To confirm or refute, you must at least try and conduct a couple of experiments (like the Spanish one) in Russia.

In the meantime, we can expect a four-day working week only on holidays.
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  1. evgen1221
    evgen1221 24 March 2021 04: 08
    +14
    Dead tight idea. This is Russia baby! It won't work for us. However, it can work on office plankton, but not in production and the private sector. I am generally silent about the motivation to plow longer for less money (and this is exactly what they will do). The fact that it works in offices on a large scale without preparation and restructuring of production lines for more efficient automatic ones is simply unrealistic.
    1. Far B
      Far B 24 March 2021 04: 39
      +38
      The idea is dead, not because "This is Russia, baby!", But because it is pure nonsense. First, raise the retirement age by five years for each citizen, and then reduce this citizen's actual hours worked by 20%, that is, by ... 8 years! (if we take the total work experience of 40 years as a starting point). This can only arise in the head of a LADY (and others like him). What for was it to fence a garden with a pension "reform" ?!
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 24 March 2021 07: 35
        +29
        I never considered D.A. Medvedev is a smart person! He is just a former lawyer-teacher at a university and an armchair politician, far from the production of material wealth in the country, and he never had a chance, by his lucky chance, to descend on the real sinful land of commoners from the people!

        Exactly the same armchair "scientists" - sociologists and economists - since the "perestroika" Gorbachev and Yeltsin have accumulated and work in the RAS and for our country I see practically nothing from their proposals except for sabotage.
        I listened to their reports, in their overwhelming majority outrageous in their professional unsuitability for scientists of the Russian Academy of Sciences, at scientific and practical international conferences about the alleged need to expand in the Russian Federation foreign "labor" and "social" migration from the countries of Central Asia.
        One would like to say about our armchair scientists from the Russian Academy of Sciences and not only the Russian Academy of Sciences, but also universities, that they are pro-Western "grant-eaters" and enemies of the state-forming Russian people and Russia as a whole.
        These armchair people with academic degrees, who see life only from the window of their office, have no idea what production is and what they eat it with! And LADIES - to the same place - exactly the same non-grounded as they are! What they say to him - that he thinks and voices. The LADY is not able to independently assess the benefits for the entire people, for the entire population in Russia, if not worse!
        1. Roman070280
          Roman070280 24 March 2021 10: 05
          +4
          And here LADIES ..
          As if he is an independent unit in politics ..
          What the king says to him, then the LADY is allowed to do ..
          1. Tatyana
            Tatyana 24 March 2021 12: 34
            +3
            Quote: Roman070280
            And here LADIES ..
            As if he is an independent unit in politics ..
            What the king says to him, then the LADY is allowed to do..

            Do not blame everything exclusively on Putin - the LADY has his own power ambitions, which he perfectly demonstrated to the West during his presidency of the Russian Federation. In particular, the fact that
            The LADY wants to please the West, it was perfectly captured in Japan - and they patiently waited for the re-election of Russian President Putin to Medvedev for Russia's concessions to Japan of the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin - that is, return to Japan of all its so-called. "Northern Territories".

            During his presidency of the Russian Federation, the LADY adopted 1400 laws and acts, which then President Putin had to correct and never correct.

            At the same time, I do not think that Prime Minister Putin was higher in terms of the powers of Russian President Medvedev. And yes, they are both from the same boat, but Putin is, as a politician, smarter than Medvedev.
            1. Roman070280
              Roman070280 24 March 2021 12: 44
              -2
              Japan - and patiently waited for the re-election of Russian President Putin to Medvedev for Russia's concessions to Japan in the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin - i.e. return to Japan of all its so-called. "Northern Territories".
              Yeah .. But Putin didn’t allow the LADY to concede anything .. So it all ended with ambitions ..

              During his presidency of the Russian Federation, the LADY adopted 1400 laws and acts, which then President Putin had to correct and never correct.

              At the same time, I do not think that Prime Minister Putin was higher in terms of the powers of Russian President Medvedev. And yes, they are both from the same boat, but Putin is, as a politician, smarter than Medvedev.

              Who is the baddest of them is a big question .. Putin just knows how to speak beautifully .. And so I don't see a special result of intelligence ..
              With regards to powers .. you can argue a lot .. But the war with Georgia began as soon as after Putin was pulled .. The LADY himself was afraid to decide this ..

              Whatever one may say - and the person was initially put simply as a substitute .. in order only to comply with the constitutional rules .. everyone understood this perfectly, and the LADY himself too .. The fact that he managed to sit in the chair while Putin was reset to zero does not make him a full-fledged figure. And no ambitions pushed him to apply for a second term .. I knew that it was not for him a hat ..))

              Well, of course ... they could not control his every step ... and some laws, he may not have adopted the ones that Putin wanted ... But this could rather concern some minor issues ..
              He would try, for example, to prohibit re-election for 3 terms ..))
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 24 March 2021 13: 13
                +5
                Quote: Roman070280
                Well, of course ... they could not control his every step .. and some laws, he may not have adopted the ones that Putin wanted .. But rather, it could concern some minor issues..

                Well, it depends on how you look at it.

                For example.
                1. Conducting inclusive education with the closure of correctional schools for weak-minded children in the spirit of Western tolerance - this was accepted under Medvedev.
                2. The introduction of the Unified State Exam in the Russian Federation and the digitalization of education - distance learning according to Gref - the same was adopted during the presidency of Medvedev. Now we are slowly starting to return partially to the previous education system, but it is clear that you cannot enter the same water twice.
                3. Russian President Medvedev presented NATO Norway with the Barents Sea shelf for a total of 30 billion euros. It is for this amount that gas deposits lie in the depths of the shelf. At the same time, for the future, Medvedev blocked the possibility of Russia's development on the shelf of the Barents Sea for its own gas production due to the presence of competition in gas production from Norway.
                4. Etc.
                1. Roman070280
                  Roman070280 24 March 2021 13: 34
                  -1
                  Conducting inclusive education with the closure of correctional schools for mentally deficient children
                  This is exactly the "little things" .. Putin is neither hot nor cold from this ..

                  Introduction of the Unified State Exam in the Russian Federation
                  And this is Putin and is not going to cancel .. So where infa, what was not agreed?

                  Medvedev donated the Barents Sea shelf to NATO Norway for a total of 30 billion euros.
                  This decree Putin also had to "correct" or what ??)
                  I am 146% sure that the LADY did not take the rollback from the Norwegians alone, but shared it with Putin .. Nobody would have allowed him to do just that, they would have pulled the leash right away ..
                  1. Genry
                    Genry 24 March 2021 14: 55
                    0
                    Quote: Roman070280
                    .. with the closure of correctional schools for retarded children
                    This is exactly the "little things" .. Putin is neither hot nor cold from this ..

                    Quote: Roman070280
                    Introduction of the Unified State Exam in the Russian Federation
                    And this is Putin and is not going to cancel .. So where infa, what was not agreed?

                    This is an increase in problems in the education and socialization of children. And the president has a bigger problem.
                    Quote: Roman070280
                    Medvedev presented NATO Norway with the shelf of the Barents Sea...
                    Nobody would have let him do just that, they would have pulled the leash right away.

                    Not pulled up and who would for example? And where is the money?
                    For the Kuril Islands, the rich Yanots probably offered more, but no one and nothing to them ...

                    And also the LADY destroyed the Russian civil aviation by his decree, clearing the space for the Boeing and .... Putin will not get out of this in any way.
                    1. Roman070280
                      Roman070280 24 March 2021 15: 08
                      -2
                      This is an increase in problems in education and socialization of children. And the president has a bigger problem.
                      Who cares about it ??
                      So we think Medvedev is stupid .. and he may not give a damn about education .. And Putin, they say, is not like that ..))
                      And then they sit in the evenings and argue .. Putin to him - how are you Dima with education and children cost .. And the LADY sits and giggles in response ..
                      This "president" himself threw pensioners, worse than the exam .. and he spat all the problems ..

                      Not pulled up and who for example?
                      The one who temporarily sat him in this chair, if I wanted to - then pulled it up ..
                      When Putin needs something, all he has to do is open his mouth, and everyone from the Federation Council to the State Duma will look into this mouth and assent ..

                      And where is the money?
                      Not with you and me, that's for sure ..
                      Kickbacks are given to those who contribute to the solution.

                      And also the LADY destroyed the Russian civil aviation by his decree, clearing the space for Boeing and ... Putin will not disentangle himself with this..
                      I would have planted a LADY for 10 years, and all the loose ends ..))
                      And he, after that, for years then keeps him as prime minister, then puts him in the Security Council ..

                      Shl .. amazing .. there are still people who believe in a good tsar and bad boyars ..))
                      1. Genry
                        Genry 24 March 2021 15: 25
                        -4
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        And then they sit in the evenings and argue .. Putin to him - how are you Dima with education and children cost .. And the LADY sits and giggles in response ..

                        Are there any similar facts or precedents? Or did you invent it yourself, because you promote the interests of the West, because you are not of traditional orientation and are interested in foster children with the aim of ...
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        Kickbacks are given to those who contribute to the solution.

                        Why not the Kuril Islands? Facts, precedents? Fiction is not interesting.
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        I would have planted a LADY for 10 years, and all the loose ends ..))
                        And he, after that, for years then keeps him as prime minister, then puts him in the Security Council ..

                        There is no such article.
                        And in the Security Council to everyone who is inadequate to the company.
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        Shl .. amazing .. there are still people who believe in a good tsar and bad boyars ..))

                        What kind of king are you dreaming about?
                        President Putin is not a saint, but adequate enough.
                        Who was the best leader in the past? Stalin?
            2. Machito
              Machito 25 March 2021 15: 28
              +1
              Quote: Tatiana
              Quote: Roman070280
              And here LADIES ..
              As if he is an independent unit in politics ..
              What the king says to him, then the LADY is allowed to do..

              Do not blame everything exclusively on Putin - the LADY has his own power ambitions, which he perfectly demonstrated to the West during his presidency of the Russian Federation. In particular, the fact that
              The LADY wants to please the West, it was perfectly captured in Japan - and they patiently waited for the re-election of Russian President Putin to Medvedev for Russia's concessions to Japan of the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin - that is, return to Japan of all its so-called. "Northern Territories".

              During his presidency of the Russian Federation, the LADY adopted 1400 laws and acts, which then President Putin had to correct and never correct.

              At the same time, I do not think that Prime Minister Putin was higher in terms of the powers of Russian President Medvedev. And yes, they are both from the same boat, but Putin is, as a politician, smarter than Medvedev.

              The FSO guarded Prime Minister Putin as the first person, and President Medvedev as the second.
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 25 March 2021 16: 36
                +1
                Quote: Bearded
                The FSO guarded Prime Minister Putin as the first person, and President Medvedev as the second.
                How do you know this? On the basis of what, so that it is possible to trust you!
                1. Machito
                  Machito 25 March 2021 20: 35
                  -1
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Quote: Bearded
                  The FSO guarded Prime Minister Putin as the first person, and President Medvedev as the second.
                  How do you know this? On the basis of what, so that it is possible to trust you!

                  Moscow - Big village. hi good
        2. NEOZ
          NEOZ 24 March 2021 13: 08
          -7
          Quote: Tatiana
          descend on the real sinful land of commoners from the people!

          well look at Medvedev's underground .....
          Father - Anatoly Afanasyevich Medvedev (November 19, 1926-2004), professor at the Leningrad Technological Institute named after Lensovet. Descendant of the peasants of the Kursk province. Grandfather Afanasy Fedorovich Medvedev (born in 1904 in the village of Mansurovo, Shchigrovsky district, Kursk province, died on May 20, 1994) Member of the Great Patriotic War, captain. In 1944, by order No. 231 of 30.12.1944/49/24 for the 1990th study. Division captain A. F. Medvedev was awarded the medal "For the Defense of the Caucasus." Grandmother Nadezhda Vasilievna Medvedeva was a housewife, raised children: Svetlana and Anatolia, died on May XNUMX, XNUMX.

          Mother - Yulia Veniaminovna (born November 21, 1939), daughter of Veniamin Sergeevich Shaposhnikov and Melania Vasilievna Kovaleva; philologist, taught at the A.I. Herzen Pedagogical Institute, later worked as a guide in Pavlovsk. Her ancestors - Sergei Ivanovich and Ekaterina Nikitichna Shaposhnikovs, Vasily Alexandrovich and Anfiya Filippovna Kovalev - come from Alekseevka, Belgorod Region.

          Childhood and youth


          Born September 14, 1965 in Leningrad. The only child in a family who lived in the Kupchino area, the “sleeping area” of Leningrad (Bela Kuna street, 6).

          Dmitry Medvedev keeps in touch with his former school number 305

          as you can see, the LADIES are not from graffiti ........ but from the people !!!!!!!! the most real people !!!!!!!
          like everyone else in power .... ALL OF THE PEOPLE !!!!!!!!
          1. Roman070280
            Roman070280 24 March 2021 13: 40
            +8
            as you can see, the LADIES are not from graffiti ........ but from the people !!!!!!!! the most real people !!!!!!!
            like everyone else in power .... ALL OF THE PEOPLE !!!!!!!!


            Everyone who ended up in the St. Petersburg mayor's office in the 90s ended up in the county .. even people like Zolotov ..))
            1. NEOZ
              NEOZ 24 March 2021 13: 47
              .
              Quote: Roman070280
              Everyone who ended up in the St. Petersburg mayor's office in the 90s ended up in the county .. even people like Zolotov ..))

              however, they are all FROM THE PEOPLE !!!!!!! those. they are WE !!!!!
              1. Roman070280
                Roman070280 24 March 2021 13: 53
                +2
                Well yes .. from our Universe, of course ..))
          2. Free wind
            Free wind 24 March 2021 16: 44
            +2
            Mom and father are 13 years apart, as I understand first love in first grade. Why didn't Medvedev's father fight? The guys were just eager to go to the front. And here the conscript was not at the front. It’s strange.
      2. Gardamir
        Gardamir 24 March 2021 07: 36
        +5
        This can only arise in the head of a LADY
        Alas, the LADY has nothing to do with it if you carefully read the article, This is an order of the world government. Just as the idea of ​​raising the retirement age did not mature in the Kremlin.
        1. shtatsov
          shtatsov 24 March 2021 09: 11
          +7
          Officially, we follow the orders of such as LADIES and other officials. So they must be responsible for the consequences of their orders. What we, unfortunately, do not see.
        2. Glory1974
          Glory1974 24 March 2021 09: 21
          0
          This is an order from the world government. Just as the idea of ​​raising the retirement age did not mature in the Kremlin.

          It can be assumed that the introduction of an unconditional basic income, that is, the payment of money even to unemployed citizens, is from the same series.
          And what could be the purpose of these innovations?
          Maybe it is planned to stop world progress at the current level?
      3. Flooding
        Flooding 24 March 2021 08: 07
        +3
        Quote: Dalny V
        First, raise the retirement age by five years for each citizen, and then reduce this citizen's actual hours worked by 20%, that is, by ... 8 years! (if we take the total work experience of 40 years as a starting point).

        one may well complement the other.
        as a result, the real costs of pension payments decrease while maintaining their size.
        the number of jobs (while maintaining the volume of production and services rendered) is increasing.
        1. Far B
          Far B 24 March 2021 08: 17
          +5
          And the "United Russia" will rise, again, this ... like him ... Well, the one that now shows almost half past five ... Ah, in - the rating! In short, solid pluses laughing
        2. 2 Level Advisor
          2 Level Advisor 24 March 2021 09: 05
          +5
          Well, for example, let's take a pilot of GA-flights it has become 20% less, but the salary has been preserved, well, and how will productivity remain? the same about drivers, CNC operators, doctors in the end .. if this is suitable, for civil servants and office employees, and then not all .. otherwise productivity suffers anyway = no options ..
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 24 March 2021 09: 10
            0
            that's why I wrote about the condition for maintaining the level of production of goods and services
            when it falls, questions arise. many questions
      4. Doccor18
        Doccor18 24 March 2021 08: 50
        +6
        Quote: Far In
        The idea is dead, not because "This is Russia, baby!", But because it is pure nonsense ....
        What for was it to fence a garden with a pension "reform" ?!

        This is not "nonsense" or "vegetable garden", but a well thought out multi-pass combination. And its goal is to establish slave-owning capitalism. A person must work "to the end", wages should be enough only for cheap food and clothing (so as not to starve and do not go naked on the street) ...
        What is the transition to a 4-day work week? An increase in the workload on an employee, a decrease in real income (minimum wage, everything is within the law), an increase (not a decrease) in unemployment, a deterioration in the standard of living of the population, work at the limit of human capabilities (you will have to look for a second job, since it is not realistic to live on one salary) , untie the hands of employers (owners) - an increase in the number of temporary "part-time workers" (for three days off) ... And all these are disadvantages - for the employee, but all these are advantages - for the capitalist ...
        But this
        The employee will have the opportunity to spend eight hours more time with his family, spend it on creativity, study, active rest and self-development.
        from the same opera as "retire not at 65, but at 70, and the pension for YOU will be% more" ..... or ... "your skin or ... my kingdom" ...
        1. ksv36
          ksv36 30 March 2021 01: 20
          0
          What is the transition to a 4-day work week?

          This is the transition to a 4-day work week. Plus the control of compliance by the Russian Guard with total imprisonment of those who do not comply with the decree. These are the realities in Russia. Convince me that I am wrong.
      5. NEOZ
        NEOZ 24 March 2021 13: 00
        -5
        Quote: Dalny V
        What for was it to fence a garden with a pension "reform" ?!

        able-bodied on a lot less than dependents ..... what to feed then? dependents of these .....
      6. Normal ok
        Normal ok 24 March 2021 14: 52
        -2
        Quote: Far In
        The idea is dead, not because "This is Russia, baby!", But because it is pure nonsense. First, raise the retirement age by five years for each citizen, and then reduce this citizen's actual hours worked by 20%, that is, by ... 8 years! (if we take the total work experience of 40 years as a starting point). This can only arise in the head of a LADY (and others like him). What for was it to fence a garden with a pension "reform" ?!

        The idea is not crazy. Because labor productivity or the psychological health of the population (indicated in the article) were not the determining factors in the implementation of the pension reform. The main problem she solved was the problem of the deficit of the pension fund. This made it possible to postpone pension payments for a huge number of people. And if we take into account that the average age of life for Russian men is officially 68 years old (this is the average temperature in a hospital: in the Caucasus there is a very long duration, and in predominantly Slavic regions it is much lower), then some will not survive at all. Savings are called. So let the people at least enjoy three days off.
        1. Alf
          Alf 24 March 2021 17: 09
          +5
          Quote: Normal ok
          when carrying out pension reform. The main problem she solved was the problem of the deficit of the pension fund.


          The head of the Ministry of Finance said that she "didn’t do it."
      7. Hlavaty
        Hlavaty 24 March 2021 17: 03
        +2
        Quote: Dalny V
        The idea is dead, not because "This is Russia, baby!", But because it is pure nonsense.

        This is not nonsense, but a necessary condition for the development of society. BUT! There is a nuance: society should not be capitalist. Under capitalism, the main goal is not the development of society, but profit at any cost. These are the priorities of capitalism. Therefore, under capitalism, this idea is dead and not only in the Russian Federation.
        An example of other priorities is the now accursed Stalin in his work "Economic Problems of Socialism in the USSR":
        "It would be wrong to think that it is possible to achieve such a serious cultural growth of members of society without major changes in the current situation of labor. For this, first of all, the working day must be reduced to at least 6 hours, and then to 5 hours. This is necessary in order to members of the community have received enough free time to receive a comprehensive education "
        1. KVIRTU
          KVIRTU 29 March 2021 11: 56
          0
          This refers to a very definite period in our history - mass evening education. Free. What we were deprived of. Replaced with an absentee surrogate. Give at least 5 days off, what to do and for what?
          1. Hlavaty
            Hlavaty 30 March 2021 10: 03
            0
            Quote: KVIRTU
            This refers to a very specific period of our history - mass evening education

            Not really. Stalin wrote this in the context of raising the level of education of the people with the aim of further participation of this people in governing the country. There is not only evening education, but also time for real deeds. For example, you have organized some kind of public organization. What time will you be involved in social activities? To work? Or after an 8-hour working day, when you have no strength left?
            Quote: KVIRTU
            Give at least 5 days off, what to do and for what?

            Well, how is it "what to do"?
            1. Take care of your health. For this, you can use completely free sports grounds.
            2. Take care of your self-education. Nowadays, books and the Internet provide ample opportunities for self-education. Even if you learn a foreign language, it can seriously change your life.
            3. Take care of your loved ones. Spouses, children, grandchildren, parents - they all need your attention.
            4. ... Add as many items as you like to this list, but just do not turn off your imagination. good
            1. KVIRTU
              KVIRTU April 11 2021 10: 11
              0
              I participate in a public organization, as the chairman of the council of residents of the house :)
              Have chosen.
              According to the list - I try to go to the bathhouse 2 times a week, I don't go to the gym, at work a barbell, dumbbells, horizontal bar, parallel bars, enough; Recently, 4 months in evening courses, English pulled up.
              My daughter graduated from two master's degrees last year. I also have two educations.
              Lack of programming skills. Without a teacher, according to self-instruction manuals, it doesn't work out very well.
    2. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 24 March 2021 06: 03
      +18
      Quote: evgen1221
      However, it can work on office plankton, but not in production and the private sector.

      In the private sector, but it still covers more than half of the labor market, the formula works - in general, yes, 40 hours a week, but 50, and 80, and even 120, too, if the master wants to. And this is quite official, by the way. An article about irregular working hours allows. Yeah. And the only method of struggle is to establish an adequate minimum salary, and not for an abstract month, in which you can charge working hours from 160 to 500-600, namely for a working hour. there are 6 to 12, significantly hit the pocket. But alas and ah. Our TK is not written for hard workers. yes
      1. Civil
        Civil 24 March 2021 06: 39
        +20
        1. The majority, who are not in government agencies and state-owned companies, plow as much as they say, and not as much as is required by law. Nobody pays for processing.
        2. In addition to the bosses, no one is paid in state structures and state-owned companies for working overtime.
        \
        Therefore, with the introduction of a 4-day week, everything worked and will continue to work. Only the salary will be cut.
        In general, for the sake of this, and is started.
        1. depressant
          depressant 24 March 2021 09: 19
          +8
          Yes, colleague Civil, I agree with your opinion. There are also several of our own. Below is one of them.
          I believe that the promise of a 4-day working week is an unambiguous proposal to the bureaucracy, for which we have a huge army, it is imperative to vote for whom it is necessary to vote for in the upcoming autumn elections to the State Duma. The products produced by an official or a small employee are a workflow that, without much straining, can be slowed down, or can be accelerated at the behest of a clerk or his boss - as they say! And the costs of slowness can always be attributed to objective circumstances. It is necessary - they will stamp the case in one day. If ordered, it will be stretched for years. Unlike, say, the production of cast iron, where the technology cannot be fooled.
          On the other hand, one must think that the petty bureaucracy in some of its parts began to show discontent of a political nature. Like many other office workers. I have to buy them. So they buy with an offer of a shortened working week. Not taking into account the fact that further these people will have the opportunity to observe on an additional day off how prices rise while maintaining the same wages.
          1. Civil
            Civil 24 March 2021 10: 02
            0
            Dear Lyudmila, you overestimate the capabilities of political strategists.
            1. They operate within the assimilated budget for an informational occasion, no more. The budgets have been severely cut.
            2. Informational reason in this case "shortening the working week" is just a proposal. Throw an information die, roughly speaking. The goal is supposedly positive news.
            3. Objectively, there is no money for the implementation of this proposal. And it was not provided.

            Therefore, it is not worth discussing seriously.
            1. Alf
              Alf 24 March 2021 17: 15
              +3
              Quote: Civil
              Budgets have been severely cut.
              2. Newsreel in yes

              Why do you think so ?
        2. Trapp1st
          Trapp1st 24 March 2021 09: 26
          +9
          Most of those who are not in government agencies and state-owned companies plow as much as they say
          In state structures and state-owned companies the same thing, although this violates the Labor Code of the Russian Federation, all sorts of local acts, etc.
        3. A1845
          A1845 24 March 2021 09: 38
          +2
          Quote: Civil
          not in state structures and state-owned companies - they plow as much as they say, and not how much is required by law. Nobody pays for processing.

          + irregular working hours under an employment contract
          and most importantly - what about FRIDAY ???
          1. Ua3qhp
            Ua3qhp 24 March 2021 12: 38
            +3
            DO NOT TOUCH FRIDAY, you can make a day off on Monday wink
      2. paul3390
        paul3390 24 March 2021 15: 50
        +3
        And the only method of struggle is to establish an adequate minimum salary

        Then the bourgeoisie will simply transfer everyone to work under a contract - and that's all .. Like, here's the amount of work, and how much you will do it - your problems. Don't like it - overboard. Alas, the capitalist will always find a way to rip off his workers. Because the main thing is profit, at any cost, everything else does not matter.
    3. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 24 March 2021 09: 32
      -4
      Quote: evgen1221
      Dead tight idea. This is Russia baby!

      I do not agree, but this is about "Tightly in Russia", Russia may be different. And specifically in our current Russia, even if it takes off, then one of them will have negative consequences - an excess of free time with a low general culture and the absence of normal organized leisure. Simply put, plump and devil what many will do!
      1. Civil
        Civil 24 March 2021 10: 04
        +7
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Simply put, thump and devil what many will do!

        Yes, yes ... the people are bad and do not have special education for organizing their leisure, state, medicine and education. The smartest and most honest people have to take everything upon themselves. laughing
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      2. Alf
        Alf 24 March 2021 17: 16
        +3
        Quote: Vladimir_2U
        Simply put, thump and devil what many will do!

        Then it is necessary to introduce a seven-day working week and there will be no time to eat vodka.
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 24 March 2021 17: 21
          +1
          Quote: Alf
          Then it is necessary to introduce a seven-day working week and there will be no time to eat vodka.

          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          with a low general culture and lack of normal organized leisure
          Are you catching problems? When solving them, there will be no need to eat vodka.
          1. Alf
            Alf 24 March 2021 17: 21
            +2
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            Are you catching problems? When solving them, there will be no need to eat vodka.

            And what prevented you from solving them earlier?
            1. Vladimir_2U
              Vladimir_2U 24 March 2021 17: 23
              0
              Quote: Alf
              And what prevented you from solving them earlier?

              Earlier - this is when?
              1. Alf
                Alf 24 March 2021 17: 24
                +2
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                Quote: Alf
                And what prevented you from solving them earlier?

                Earlier - this is when?

                Since December 1999.
                1. Vladimir_2U
                  Vladimir_2U 24 March 2021 17: 27
                  +1
                  Quote: Alf
                  Earlier - this is when?
                  Since December 1999.


                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  And specifically in our current Russia, even if it takes off

                  Is 1999 very different from today's Russia? In my opinion, not really.
                  1. Alf
                    Alf 24 March 2021 17: 30
                    +2
                    Quote: Vladimir_2U
                    Quote: Alf
                    Earlier - this is when?
                    Since December 1999.


                    Quote: Vladimir_2U
                    And specifically in our current Russia, even if it takes off

                    Is 1999 very different from today's Russia? In my opinion, not really.

                    Don't jump off the topic. What prevents from solving these problems, both then and now?
                    1. Vladimir_2U
                      Vladimir_2U 24 March 2021 17: 47
                      +2
                      Quote: Alf
                      Don't jump off the topic

                      And I don't give a damn about YOUR topic, for me that 1999 and 2021 for Russia differ little, only the Bolsheviks began to make real efforts to solve the problems of leisure and improve the culture of the people.
                      1. Alf
                        Alf 24 March 2021 17: 48
                        +2
                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        Quote: Alf
                        Don't jump off the topic

                        And I don't give a damn about YOUR topic, for me that 1999 and 2021 for Russia differ little, only the Bolsheviks began to make real efforts to solve the problems of leisure and improve the culture of the people.

                        Well, then I don't give a damn about communicating with you ..
                      2. Vladimir_2U
                        Vladimir_2U 24 March 2021 17: 51
                        0
                        Quote: Alf
                        Well, then I don't give a damn about communicating with you.


                        Straight sadness, trouble!




  • VORON538
    VORON538 24 March 2021 04: 12
    +6
    Doubtful initiative. The private sector pays the employee for the work. No work, no money. Therefore, no one will leave the previous salary if the working time is reduced. Just say, go to the one who promised you, this has already happened with covid restrictions. leave, but: doctors, teachers (the education program should be redone if a 6-day stay) and employees of preschool educational institutions, special services, no one will cut anything for them. Those who came up with these reductions remained to reduce the hours, that is, bureaucrats are officials. vs.
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 24 March 2021 04: 14
      -2
      And state employees cut their working hours by an hour. They work until 18, get home from 17, will work until 17, and start gathering at 16. You can't put this into practice in Russia :)))
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 24 March 2021 05: 04
    +24
    Guys, were the comments in the news on presidential terms turned off or what? So that people do not swear.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 24 March 2021 05: 58
      +19
      A similar question. I can't open it from a mobile phone, I don’t know from a PC. I have never seen this before. Learned undesirable topics under the guise of malfunctions
    2. O. Bender
      O. Bender 24 March 2021 06: 48
      +11
      The servants should not speak. It seemed to be painfully ardent that people appreciated this feint with their ears. Even a little funny am
    3. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 24 March 2021 07: 09
      +14
      Quote: Dimy4
      disconnected or what?

      Yes, you see, admins really fear for sanctions from Roskomnadzor. In our kingdom-state it will fly easily.
      If it is impossible to be indignant at the rise in prices, then even more so. request
      1. depressant
        depressant 24 March 2021 10: 53
        +5
        Checked it out. There are messages about voting in the State Duma, including on VO, and comments everywhere are disabled. I think the point here is not so much about Roskomnadzor, but about the fact that the international situation is heating up dangerously. We don't know everything. There is only fragmentary information about the pulling together of Ukrainian troops to the borders of Crimea and Donbass, about 8 (!) American exercises planned in the water area near Crimea, as well as about the hasty issuance of numerous loans from the National Welfare Fund (NWF) to third countries, allegedly in order to protect it from arrest in Western banks. The latter is especially annoying. Has anyone returned loans to us? Or did it all end in forgiveness? It turns out that our NWF is the notorious "party gold"? A small part of the loan to some African leader, and then he will thankfully return the larger part to whoever needs it. Hmmm ...
        And to us - tales about the shortened working week. You, plebs, love to drink so much. Get distracted by a fairy tale, we will bring you a golden dream, accessible to your understanding, so listen without regaining consciousness.
        And all the stories about how Belousov defeated Siluanov, and now twenty years will pass, and Belousov will build something.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 24 March 2021 16: 12
          +8
          Quote: depressant
          the international situation is heating up dangerously

          It is heating up, and it is beneficial to everyone. First of all, our power, as a way to channel social tension to an external enemy. The war will write off everything - cynical, but true. hi
          1. depressant
            depressant 24 March 2021 16: 35
            +9
            Oh, dear colleague Ingvar 72, who would have doubted! An external threat is one of the ways to control the state, a kind of military reins. As soon as the people became insolent, they began to open their mouths in unseemly loud claims to useless self-management, as the authorities immediately tightens the appropriate reins, and now the population, shutting their mouths, anxiously runs to buy carcass wassat
  • Elena Akinfieva
    Elena Akinfieva 24 March 2021 05: 12
    +7
    On labor from 6 to 13. In reality, from 5 to 15. That's all the arithmetic.
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 24 March 2021 05: 46
    +13
    Mr. Gref scares that robots will work, not humans. What to do with citizens who work "according to the code" and not according to immigrant quotas?
    It is beneficial for the state: less expenses on budgetary offices, "self-feeding" of the electorate at "dachas", bigboards of "benefactors" EP with "What joy! We gave you Day and Night!"
    Business, if it was profitable, would itself shorten the working week - it is not prohibited.
    Physicians-teachers, VORON is right, will not be able to work less because of the assigned tasks.
    There remain civil servants - they will be able to take a break from caring for the people.
  • parusnik
    parusnik 24 March 2021 06: 24
    +20
    From the Labor Code of the Russian Federation, first remove such a concept as irregular working hours. winked
    1. _Sergei_
      _Sergei_ 24 March 2021 07: 23
      +3
      Irregular working day means that the working day cannot be normalized. You can think all day how to live on, or you can do something. But in our country, every boss wants to include overtime in this concept.
    2. Lannan Shi
      Lannan Shi 24 March 2021 10: 21
      +5
      Quote: parusnik
      From the Labor Code of the Russian Federation, first remove such a concept as irregular working hours.

      Not necessarily by the way. It is enough to introduce double payments to the funds for each employee with irregular working hours. Well, and accordingly, the employee himself for each day worked for such an employer, to lower the penny age, respectively, by 1 day. yes More than sure. The number of workers, with irregular days, will immediately turn out to be not much more than zero. yes
    3. dzvero
      dzvero 24 March 2021 12: 29
      +2
      Irregular working hours only means that there is no constant beginning and end (i.e. from 9 to 17), and also that sometimes (!) You may have to work on weekends. But this does not change 8 hours a day and 40 hours a week. In the TC must be written "buns" for the employee - for example. increased paid leave, compensation, overtime. All this, of course, is ideal. And in real life ...
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 24 March 2021 06: 54
    +9
    From the creators of "sanctions are only for our benefit", "negative growth" and "macaroshkas always cost the same" ...
  • Boris55
    Boris55 24 March 2021 07: 52
    -1
    - On November 11, 1917, the Council of People's Commissars adopted a decree on an 8-hour working day.
    - In 1977, the Soviet "Brezhnev" Constitution enshrined the 41-hour workweek. And a few months before the demise of the USSR, in April 1991 (Labor Code), a 40-hour weekly working time limit was introduced.
    - Stalin wanted to set 6 o'clock working day...

    The reason for the transition to a 4-day working week is the oversupply of the labor force caused by the increase in the retirement age. This "free" force will first of all take down the bourgeois, the Medvedev clan (clintanoids) - so they are looking for a way to protect themselves.

    ps
    If someone is afraid that in connection with this we will be paid less - in vain. The level of our salary does not depend in any way on the time and effort spent in the workplace. As we lived from paycheck to paycheck, so we live and will live until we change the social system.
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 24 March 2021 07: 54
    +5
    If they want to introduce a four-day period, they will definitely be robbed. What is profitable for a working person, then death for a capitalist. But capitalists are not suicides. smile
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 24 March 2021 09: 30
      +9
      If they want to introduce a four-day period, they will definitely be robbed.
      In our country, any, even the brightest and kindest idea, for some reason ends in the robbery of people.
  • Woodman
    Woodman 24 March 2021 07: 56
    -1
    As you can see, there are a lot of approximately quite successful transitions to a new work schedule in the world.
    All the examples given are examples of the transition to the four-day period; these are examples of individual enterprises, not even the enterprises themselves. but some of them. They cannot in any way be taken as a basis for the transition to a four-day period of an entire state.
    And in Japan, which was cited here as an example, a working week on average is 50 hours. At the same time, Holland with a work week of about 30 hours is absent as an example. Although, they say in Holland and openly trade in drugs ... Probably, so that three weekends fly by unnoticed)))
    The workers will even be able to improve their financial condition. After all, the third day off can be spent on additional earnings.
    So, personally, I will most likely do so.
    1. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 24 March 2021 09: 36
      +5
      And in Japan, which was cited here as an example, a working week on average is 50 hours.
      Inemuri - the tradition of sleeping in the workplace to demonstrate social involvement, giving the impression of being involved in the action.

      I think we have a lot of people interested in such situations, there will be 50 hours or more)) Paid !!!
      1. Woodman
        Woodman 24 March 2021 09: 46
        +6
        Quote: Trapp1st
        -tradition to sleep in the workplace

        Quote: Trapp1st
        I think we have a lot of people who want to, in such situations, there will be

        I doubt it. Whatever one may say, but this time is subtracted from the time spent with the family or from other worries. If they pay extra for this time, then certainly no one will refuse. But only at first. Then people will get used to receiving this money, but they will begin to strive for a reduction in these sleep hours due to their uselessness for the work process, but at the same time they will not agree to a reduction in wages. As a result, there will simply be another reason for dissatisfaction.
        As in an anecdote
        The businessman gets into his limousine. There is a sad driver sitting there. The businessman asks:
        - What are you sad about, Fedor? I pay you 2000 euros a month, I bought an apartment, you spend your holidays in the Canaries on a regular basis ...
        - I’m thinking, Ivan Ivanovich, we ought to hire a driver ...
    2. Bolt cutter
      Bolt cutter 24 March 2021 11: 10
      -1
      Holland is absent with a working week of about 30 hours. Although, they say in Holland and drugs are openly traded
      In Holland, about 40 hours, like everyone else (and drugs, marijuana, are consumed mainly by tourists. Local specialists drink more). Google has never heard of the existence of roundpay metal finishers, and they usually work in England 40-50 hours a week. Something like this.
  • d4rkmesa
    d4rkmesa 24 March 2021 08: 09
    +4
    "Labor productivity" ... Again 25. This concept in macroeconomics has nothing to do with the length of the working week, nothing. This is stupid gross sales to the number of employees, and not how specific Vasya is "effective". It is necessary to stimulate trade and industry, and trample on "labor productivity", but the Central Bank stupidly squeezes money with rates, like the monetarists of the 70s in the West.
  • Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 24 March 2021 08: 39
    +3
    Now, if in the 19th century they thought so, did tests, calculated performance ... then we would continue to work hard 10 days a week ...

    The transition to a four-day period is associated with several things - the introduction of the so-called "unconditional basic income". It is in Italy and Switzerland doing tests. Whether you work or not, you only get money.

    Then comes the automation of production. As an example, we, in Plovdiv, set up a factory for auto parts, in which there are only robots and 2-3 workers, in a remote location. And at the plant itself there is one watchman and about loaders ...

    So the introduction of a 4-day working day will not be such a big shock, it's just that the economy and people will be reorganized and everything will be settled. Slave owners, sorry, employers will have to turn on their brains ... laughing
    1. Sancho_SP
      Sancho_SP 24 March 2021 09: 00
      +1
      That's when all your citizens will work at such factories with a Munich salary, then it is necessary to speak and abbreviations.
    2. Trapp1st
      Trapp1st 24 March 2021 09: 38
      +5
      The transition to a four-day period is associated with several things
      The only reason is de-industrialization
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 24 March 2021 09: 55
        +1
        The only reason is de-industrialization


        Quite possible. Developed countries are bringing factories to China, Vietnam, Indonesia, fortunately there they pay pennies for labor, and labor legislation there is only on paper.

        Remember how at the Foxconn plant in China, workers lived in barracks, worked 14 hours a day and killed themselves?
        And try it in Europe and the whole company will go to jail. So deindustrialization turns out. I don’t know whether it’s good or bad, but it’s a trend. Generally, factories or not, but the economy of a developed and rich country should be with high added value.
        1. Trapp1st
          Trapp1st 24 March 2021 10: 03
          +6
          Remember how at the Foxconn plant in China, workers lived in barracks, worked 14 hours a day
          We can add more about female and child labor.
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 24 March 2021 12: 55
            +3
            We can add more about female and child labor.


            And let us also remember the case when Union Carbide crashed in India - a bunch of people or half of the city were poisoned there, I don’t remember exactly, and they didn’t have anything to do with it.
            1. Bolt cutter
              Bolt cutter 24 March 2021 13: 37
              +3
              Bhopal, Madia Pradesh. 574000 poisoned by methyl isocyanate escaping from the tank. The tank is still lying there, by the way.
            2. Free wind
              Free wind 24 March 2021 17: 02
              +4
              And let us recall the case in Norilsk, when hundreds of people were poisoned in 77-78 years. I do not remember exactly. I raised a five-year-old sister, took her to a kindergarten, fed me alone, I studied in grade 3. Mom spent half a year in the hospital after being poisoned.
  • Sancho_SP
    Sancho_SP 24 March 2021 08: 59
    0
    Ay, everything is simpler, I tell you how it will be:

    1. Where possible, they will reduce salaries by 20%, leaving the production rate (in hours, lessons, documents, patients) as it was.

    2. Part of it will go to the 2/2 schedule with again a reduction in wages.

    3. The majority will cut wages to compensate for the regular overtime on the "weekend".


    The bottom line? Further impoverishment of low-skilled workers, as wages become lower.
  • cniza
    cniza 24 March 2021 09: 02
    +2
    The workers will even be able to improve their financial condition. After all, the third day off can be spent on additional earnings.


    Where? There will be reductions and in general experiment with officials, the wrong end is coming ...
  • Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 24 March 2021 09: 23
    +11
    First of all, not all employers (especially in private business) are ready to cut employees' working time by 1/5.
  • Glory1974
    Glory1974 24 March 2021 09: 25
    +1
    In Russia, for the first time, Dmitry Medvedev spoke about the introduction of a four-day working week in July 2019 during the International Labor Conference.
    The initiative was quietly laughed at, not considering it any serious. How is it, Medvedev proposes to appoint three days off: Friday, Saturday and Sunday?

    In Russia, not only was it the first time they started talking about it, but they also planned to introduce a 4-day working week under Stalin, in the 50s. The goal was to increase the time for personal self-improvement, visiting theaters, museums, gyms.
    Now I doubt that capitalists would think about the happiness of ordinary people. Consequently, governments pursue their own goals.
  • Maks1995
    Maks1995 24 March 2021 10: 21
    +3
    Some kind of deception in the article.
    According to it, the world is testing a decrease in working hours per week.

    And in Russia, they discussed the preservation of watches, but placing them in 4 days. 10 hours instead of 8x10 = 4x8.

    Ie. They will work harder every day, and then rest intensively.

    For wear and tear, and then plump, in short.
    And there it will still be possible to optimize something else. Pensions, transport, education, Internet. Projects are being prepared ...
  • tacet
    tacet 24 March 2021 10: 38
    +3
    A four-day period, to put it mildly, is not viable (in the real sector, for sure). When you hear proposals to switch to a similar work schedule (I wonder how to correlate it with piece-rate wages?) And at the same time calls for an increase in labor productivity, cognitive dissonance arises. When motivated, our people perform miracles.
    1. KVIRTU
      KVIRTU 29 March 2021 12: 32
      0
      Yes, the usual thing, there are no intrigues here. If it takes an hour and a half to get to work, a person will work better for 10 hours, then in the middle of the week he will take a day off.
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 24 March 2021 10: 56
    +6
    Now Russia is somewhere in the sixth ten in the world ranking.

    This "world happiness rating" is some kind of far-fetched thing.
    There is no need to conduct surveys to guess that people in Luxembourg are happier than in Rwanda. However, to put the Russian Federation not even in the sixth, but in the eighth ten - on the 76th place, as the compilers of the list did that year, this is complete nonsense. With all today's problems and difficulties, Russians live no less, and maybe more happily than, say, in Uzbekistan, and for some reason it is in 42nd place.
    1. bk0010
      bk0010 24 March 2021 13: 38
      +4
      Quote: A. Privalov
      With all today's problems and difficulties, Russians live no less, and maybe more happily than, say, in Uzbekistan, and for some reason it is in 42nd place.
      There is the sun and the "old society" (they are in no hurry), so everything can be.
  • Sfurei
    Sfurei 24 March 2021 12: 15
    +2
    Strange article on several points. Almost everywhere where research has been carried out in business, these are mostly non-production processes. Those. If a turner sharpens a nut in 8 minutes, he will not be able to grind it unexpectedly in 7 minutes without significant changes in machine tools and automation. The same is in the conveyor, for example, in food (butchering chickens or packing candy) or in electronics. Those. from the point of view of the manufacturer, in fact, it is necessary to save the salary, reduce the load - without receiving anything in return. Therefore, it would be strange to consider this issue in terms of a significant increase in efficiency. To a greater extent, this is a question of social development and improvement of the human environment. Those. improving his life ...
  • vavilon
    vavilon 24 March 2021 15: 56
    +2
    With the development of technology, working hours should have been reduced for a long time and not reduced labor force,
  • Alf
    Alf 24 March 2021 16: 55
    +3
    After Khrushchev returned the 1956-hour workday with one day off in 7, eleven years later, a 40-hour weekly work schedule and two days off were approved.

    Not certainly in that way. Sunday as a day off was returned back in 1945.
  • Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 24 March 2021 19: 41
    0
    The four-day week is interesting to the West because it has a fundamentally different model than ours. We can say that we are lagging behind here by one and a half gradations.
    The West at one time relied on a highly professional workforce in conjunction with the widespread introduction of innovations and high competition for the slave. a place . We made a bet (in fact, "it happened so", there is no logic other than situational here) on relative professionalism at the top, moderate implementation of time-tested solutions and cheap "grassroots" workforce with a high level of competition. The key difference here is in the level of professionalism of the "top-middle management" and the issue of innovation. Due to the higher professionalism of the middle management, the West IN MY LOOK better implements / creates innovations, and the undoubted advantage of their model is a smoother transition between the middle and top management (I'm talking about the European model), which more equitably distributes people "according to their abilities" to the higher-middle positions. In such a structure, the labor force has more comfortable working conditions and more competent leadership, within which there is rotation and competition, which is greater (and more profitable) than similar shifts within our model. This has its advantages in terms of labor income.
    In our system, the transition between the upper-middle management is often more "artificial", illogical, people who do not reach the level of competence are much more likely to find themselves in the wrong place, and vice versa, the more competent remain lower than they should be. This is due to the fact that normal capitalist laws do not function correctly in an environment saturated with interweaving of monopolies and a colossal inflow of "raw money" and the system itself is minimally based on innovations due to the prevailing mild form of conservative parasitism (on the fruits of other people's technologies or adaptation thereof). In this design, a competitive advantage (if it is ensured, which is less and less) is provided by cheap labor, a decrease in the risks of selling low-competitive products (the main charm of a monopoly bond), cheap raw materials, the production of which is also based on these principles. A further decrease in labor costs or issues of increasing real labor productivity (which carries 4 days) in this situation do not carry the same benefits within this type of production as it would be in the West - where the labor force gets more, has more rights and where the social the pressures associated with unemployment are generally felt stronger than ours. To put it bluntly, we cannot provide growth produces. labor without the introduction of innovations, and there is nowhere to lower our salaries, so nothing compensates for -1 day, and the "social order" to reduce unemployment is less important to us than to the West - we have long since preferred to suppress any social request "in other ways" ...

    Of course, some economist would describe it more competently, but I see how I see)
    1. Ua3qhp
      Ua3qhp 25 March 2021 07: 49
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      Quote: Knell Wardenheart
      We made a bet (in fact, "it happened so", there is no logic other than situational here) on relative professionalism at the top, moderate implementation of time-tested solutions and cheap "grassroots" workforce with a high level of competition.

      There are certain doubts about professionalism at the top.
    2. TANKISTONE
      TANKISTONE 27 March 2021 15: 21
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      It's all in the past. Old-school people (who know the workflow from the bottom up) are retiring. The new generation of theoretical managers "know" only in general how it should be, but they do not know the whole mechanism ...
  • iouris
    iouris 24 March 2021 23: 51
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    Three days off in Spain in summer!
    In winter in Norilsk ...
  • Prisoner
    Prisoner 25 March 2021 09: 54
    -3
    Well, to hell with this week. No liver can stand three days of rest. laughing
  • strelokmira
    strelokmira 26 March 2021 16: 54
    +1
    Of course, they will, but entrepreneurs (or thieves simply) will hang themselves, and so 6 days without normal pay for 90% of the population in fact

    I believe in the conduct of serfdom in the Russian Federation, I can imagine how they will hoot with joy
  • TANKISTONE
    TANKISTONE 27 March 2021 15: 14
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    I just forgot to mention that we are two times lagging behind developed countries in terms of labor productivity. And this lag has not diminished in recent decades.
    And I wrote off everything for age, it turns out that I am so "muddled" after work because my productivity is higher
    twice as much
    than a Russian (I think, the average), + even all sorts of wishlist managers-theoreticians!
  • Basarev
    Basarev 28 March 2021 13: 29
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    This is the whole point. It's all about labor productivity. To raise it, huge investments are needed, but none of the capital owners will go for it, because they do not associate themselves with Russia in any way. These people have no concept of the Motherland, they only have a personal purse. This is how normal capitalism differs from peripheral capitalism. A normal capitalist is a quilted jacket in the best sense of the word, ready to tear veins for his people and his country, rot strangers, enslave other peoples, fight and kill ... That is, there is a clear dividing line: for the Motherland - all efforts and benefits. And for the rest - all the cruelty, intolerance and class hatred. There are no forbidden techniques and morals. Business is war.