A new water intake was launched in Crimea to provide water to the capital of the peninsula

While Kiev politicians, including ex-President Kravchuk, declare a "catastrophic situation" with water in Crimea and scare their own citizens with the invasion of the Russian army to restore water supply, new water supply facilities are being commissioned on the peninsula to solve the problem of drinking water shortages.

On March 18, 2021, ahead of schedule by a month, the long-awaited launch of water from two wells of the new Beshterek-Zuisky water intake took place in the capital of Crimea. Starting today, Simferopol will receive an additional 5 thousand cubic meters of drinking water per day. In total, the project provides for 11 wells up to 500 meters deep, which will supply up to 22 thousand cubic meters of water to the city.

Dear Crimeans, today a working start-up of water from the newly explored artesian water field of the Beshterek-Zuysky water intake is underway

- said the deputy chairman of the Crimean government Yevgeny Kabanov.

The rest of the wells will be launched within two months, water will be supplied through a new water conduit from two strings of plastic pipes with a diameter of 700 millimeters and a length of 20 kilometers.

According to the Minister of Construction and Architecture of the region, Mikhail Khramov, work at the facility was carried out around the clock and took, in total, about 14 months.

Let us remind you that the Russian government has allocated 48 billion rubles to solve the problems of providing Crimea with water. According to plans, the main work on the peninsula should be completed by 2024.

Comments

[Proxima]

Yes, things are going. Recently, a water intake was opened on the Belbek River for water supply to Sevastopol and its environs. Much is being done and it pleases!

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Proxima

Yes, things are going. Recently, a water intake was opened on the Belbek River for water supply to Sevastopol and its environs. Much is being done and it pleases!

We, too, with water crappy, but we get out.

[Avior]

Israel's successes in water-saving technologies are undeniable, but water from the Golan Heights plays a critical role in Israel's water supply - this also should not be discounted.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Avior

Israel's successes in water-saving technologies are undeniable, but water from the Golan Heights plays a critical role in Israel's water supply - this also should not be discounted.

The water from the Golan Heights is the Jordan River.

She, of course, does not need to be discarded. But are you sure this is the "essential role"? Can 9 million people drink this water, provide industry and agriculture?
Today, 50% of total water consumption in Israel (and 80% of drinking) is desalinated sea water.

[Avior]

I do not insist, but there is another assessment

Rivers and streams formed by precipitation here (the main type of food is rain) are relatively numerous and flow into the Jordan and Lake Tiberias (Lake Kinneret), from which Israel takes a significant part of its drinking water. According to various estimates, up to a third of the water consumed in Israel comes from the Golan Heights.

A third of the water is a noticeable figure

[A. Privalov]

Old estimate.
Streams, of course, are a good thing, but the days of serious consumption of water from the Kinneret are long gone. The lake is already at its top level. They even thought to open the shutter and drain the water into the lower course of the Jordan.
If you are not lazy and look at the map, you will see that Jordan flows into the lake and flows out of it. In the lower reaches, Jordan is already consuming water. Previously, when there were problems with water, special quotas were allocated to it under the peace treaty, but now, take it, I don’t want to!
There were times, at the very beginning of the 60s, when Syria tried to divert the waters of the Jordan River by cutting off the water supply to Israel and Jordan. Then I had to give her a hand and gouge the clowns-meliorators to hell. But, this is already "the affairs of bygone days" ...

[A. Privalov]

Here's today's summary:

[Avior]

Of course, the Jordan does not give the impression of a large full-flowing river, but it is not entirely clear - Water from the lake is still cheaper than from desalination plants - why then is it not used?

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Avior

Of course, the Jordan does not give the impression of a large full-flowing river, but it is not entirely clear - Water from the lake is still cheaper than from desalination plants - why then is it not used?

They are used, but dozens of times less than they used to. From the river in Israel only for irrigation of agricultural lands. The main water consumption from there is now in Jordan.
They take from the lake, but this is about a tenth of what they took before.
The fact is that a lot of water is reused for agricultural needs. Large areas are occupied by drip irrigation, which seriously saves water. Take a look here:
https://www.netafim.com/ru-ru/
Enterprises began to use recycled water for cooling.
Huge reserves of brackish waters were discovered underground in the desert. This water is not suitable for drinking, but some species of freshwater fish live and reproduce well in it. The fish farms are happy.
During desalination, water is immediately purified and prepared for consumption. The water conduit from the lake runs from north to south, and desalination plants drive water from west to east. Eventually, drinking water flows into the public network.

[dSK]

The construction of a seawater desalination plant in the south of Crimea, in Yalta, will cost 3 billion rubles, a feasibility study of the project is being prepared, - said the head Crimea Sergey Aksenov to journalists 13.03.21/XNUMX/XNUMX.

[dSK]

To improve the water supply to Crimea, in addition to the construction of water pipelines and water intakes, it is planned to drill wells at the bottom of the Sea of ​​Azov, Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation Marat Khusnullin said on 18.03.21.
He explained that under the bottom of the Sea of ​​Azov there are huge reserves of water. "We are already sure of this, the key question is at what distance from the coast and at what depth. If we can extract oil there using the method of oil extraction, ... then we will try to supply this water to the Crimean water utility." He also clarified that "the volumes of this water will be clear by July."

[A. Privalov]

3 billion rubles? "It will not be enough!" (C)

Currently, the largest desalination plant in Israel is Sorek-1, producing 150 million cubic meters of fresh water per year.
The new Sorek-2 plant will have to produce 200 million cubic meters of fresh water. The project, which includes the construction of a 150 megawatt power plant to service the desalination plant, is estimated at NIS 2,5 billion.

With your money, this is approximately 56 billion rubles.

[Dkuznecov]

I would go to the "income" section of the technical justification
I would have looked at once.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Proxima

Yes, things are going. Recently, a water intake was opened on the Belbek River for water supply to Sevastopol and its environs. Much is being done and it pleases!

We, too, with water crappy, but we get out.

It is not clear why our authorities do not adopt your rich experience in this industry? It seems that our relations allow it, and the technologies are not secret.

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: Piramidon

It is not clear why our authorities do not adopt your rich experience in this industry? It seems that our relations allow it, and the technologies are not secret.

This is not a question for me. Our desalination plants are even in a number of Arab countries.

[serguchcho]

Rich experience in capturing aquifers from neighboring states? Thank. Do not.

[Piramidon]

Quote: serguchcho

Rich experience in capturing aquifers from neighboring states? Thank. Do not.

It was only about the desalination plants. Do not attribute to me what I did not say.

[alexmach]

It is not clear why our authorities do not adopt your rich experience in this industry? It seems that our relations allow it, and the technologies are not secret. request

First, what is the experience? Go and recapture the South of Ukraine or desalination plants?
Both are fraught with certain costs. Specifically from the installations, the water is expensive. And besides, Crimea is not Israel, there are other possibilities for solving the problem of water supply.

[Piramidon]

Quote: alexmach

there are other possibilities for solving water supply problems

The answer is in style - there is something there, but I don't know what. Write more specifically.

[alexmach]

The answer is in style - there is something there, but I don't know what. Write more specifically.

If you don't know, this is your problem. And I was accidentally curious.

Main directions
- More intensive use of existing water resources
- Development of infrastructure
- Rational use of available water

For the South Coast, there are mountains in the neighborhood, they have rivers, lakes and reservoirs. In general, everything is not bad there, especially against the backdrop of a snowy winter. For Sevastopol, a new water intake was recently built on the Belbek River, it should compensate for the city's peaks in consumption and possible shortages of water in other sources.

For the steppe part and especially Semfiropol - here the deficit is compensated only by Artesian wells.

They are also building water supply systems, again mainly in the direction of the deficient Semfiropol from the west and east. This network of water pipelines can also be used for the so-called "reverse" pumping of water in the event of a shortage in one of the regions and availability in another.

As for the rational use in Sevastopol, they talked about the modernization of the city network and the reduction of water losses in it. In agriculture, according to eyewitnesses, they switched to more economical drip irrigation a long time ago, and they gave up growing rice.

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Quote: Aaron Zawi

Quote: Proxima

Yes, things are going. Recently, a water intake was opened on the Belbek River for water supply to Sevastopol and its environs. Much is being done and it pleases!

We, too, with water crappy, but we get out.

Come to us, in Siberia, there is plenty of water ... Dates do not grow, really ... and you have to work with your hands ...

[Cosm22]

And what, in fact, pleases?
What is pumping out of the ground an already meager and limited supply of fresh water?
What is the massive soil salinization?
That the problem is not being radically solved?
That only half measures are applied, which subsequently will only exacerbate the problem of water shortage?
Is this a reason for joy?

[Cananecat]

I have also proposed for a long time to turn the Dnieper around Ukraine ... but they do not hear me. )))

[Piramidon]

Quote: Canecat

I have also proposed for a long time to turn the Dnieper around Ukraine ... but they do not hear me. )))

There are countless such offers. But they do not have enough intelligence to think.

[Cananecat]

Quote: Piramidon

There are countless such offers. But they do not have enough intelligence to think.

As well as those who comment on them. )))
P.S. For especially gifted people I write the word SARKAZM in caps. ))

[Pereira]

The right decision. To build a dam near Smolensk. In Old Man, he’s going to go crazy.

[GTYCBJYTH2021]

Quote: Canecat

I have also proposed for a long time to turn the Dnieper around Ukraine ... but they do not hear me. )))

The rivers of Siberia turn back - aren't you the author ?! It is cheaper to move people and people to the water for living ... Yes, corn does not ripen here, nafuya to breed it, and the Siberians do not eat it ...

[zwlad]

No, well, you can occupy Ukraine.
How do you like this option for a cardinal solution to the issue?
And so, people work and solve problems. It's better than doing nothing at all.
I believe that a desalination plant will be built in the foreseeable future. Wells are just the fastest option.

[serguchcho]

Quote: zwlad

No, well, you can occupy Ukraine.
How do you like this option for a cardinal solution to the issue?

No, well, the Jews occupied the Golan Heights. Option)

[zwlad]

Well, there the hegemon did not mind, but here he will begin to object. Sanctions will frighten again.

[Avior]

After the Syrians attacked them

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Avior

After the Syrians attacked them

The "Six-Day War" was unleashed by Israeli Jews attacking the airfields of the Arab Republic of Egypt and almost completely destroying the air force of this state, the attack by the SAR Air Force on Israel was only a consequence of the IDF's aggression ...

The offensive began on Monday 5 June an attack by Israeli Air Force planes on Egyptian military airfields. Israeli intelligence found that the most convenient time for the attack was 7 hours 45 minutes (favorable meteorological conditions: the fog clears; Egyptian pilots are just heading for the aircraft, there is not a single fighter on duty in the air). Israeli planes flew very low and were not noticed by either Soviet radars (on military ships) or Egyptian ones.
As a result, during the first hours of the war, Egyptian aircraft as a serious combat force capable of supporting the ground forces, ceased to exist... By the end of the second day of the war, Egyptian aviation had lost 309 aircraft and helicopters, including all 30 long-range bombers of the Tu-16.

https://eleven.co.il/state-of-israel/arab-israeli-conflict/14808/
Those. the Israeli military, attacking the peaceful military airfields of the Arab Republic of Egypt, repeated what Nazi Germany did by attacking the USSR ...

Hostilities against Israel on land Syrians Have begun 6 June... The bulk of the Israeli forces operated in the south against Egypt and Jordan; Syrians concentrated 11 brigades on the border, but did not attack Israeli positions, limiting themselves to shelling Israeli settlements.

see there ...
Those. XNUMX hours after the Israeli attack on the Arab Republic of Egypt, the SAR Armed Forces did not carry out any actions, and after them they limited themselves to shelling Israeli territory, without conducting any offensive hostilities ...

The Arab world lost all its Arab-Israeli wars due to the fact that it allowed Israel to impose fleeting hostilities on them in short wars, in addition, there was a lack of coordination between the Arabs in their actions ...
As a result, the IDF could safely transfer its troops from one sector of the front to another, crushing the Arab armies one by one ...
Thus, the loss of the IDF in the Air Force and in the conflict that lasted for months, the Arabs would have destroyed Israel ....

[Avior]

The problem is that the Syrians and Egyptians attacked much earlier than the Six Day War, and the peace treaty was never concluded.
Syria, in fact, has been in a state of war with Israel since the late 40s.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Avior

The problem is,

The fact that the Golan SAR was lost in the "Six Day War", and not in the previous wars with Israel ....
see discussion thread of 18.03.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX:

serguchcho No, well Jews occupied the Golan Heights... Option)

zwlad (Vlad) Well, there the hegemon did not mind, but here he will begin to object. Sanctions will frighten again.

Avior (Sergey) After the Syrians attacked them

I understand your inhuman love for Israeli Jews and your desire to please them, but let's not distort world history for this ...

The "Six Day War" was started by Israeli Jews, and it was as a result of it that the latter received the Golan ....

[Avior]

Legally, the war began in the late 40s and is still not over. A Six-day or five-day is the conventional names of specific episodes of this war.
Israel has a peace treaty with Egypt, the war is over. But with Syria, no.

[Cosm22]

Occupation is a bad option for a cardinal solution to the issue. For he will hit Russia first of all.
In RK, people also seem to work. And they also seem to be solving some problems. But the amazing thing is that for some reason the problems only get bigger from such work.
The fastest option should have been taken care of at least 5 years ago. And if at least one Russian oligarch bought one less ocean-class yacht, and the money not spent in this way went to mastering desalination technologies, it would be much better for the nature and agriculture of Crimea. And faster. In the sense of a radical solution to the problem.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: zwlad

No, well, you can occupy Ukraine.
How do you like this option for a cardinal solution to the issue?

Good. But no population.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Cosm22

What is pumping out of the ground an already meager and limited supply of fresh water?

Have you heard anything about underground rivers? they can be much deeper than the part visible on the surface, and also drain into the sea. Who will be harmed if water is taken from such? And with the salinity of soils there are methods to fight and the water is different, then the methods of irrigation must be changed.

[Cosm22]

These rivers can be either more full-flowing or less. With equal probability.
If there are methods to combat soil salinization, why aren't these methods used?
Look at Crimea from outer space, there are a lot of links on the Web for this. Compare the situation with the one that was at least five years ago. The picture is depressing.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Cosm22

These rivers can be either more full-flowing or less. With equal probability.

Who can argue with that?

Quote: Cosm22

If there are methods to combat soil salinization, why aren't these methods used?

Enjoyed.
"..... Soil salinization is eliminated by the introduction of special additives. Most often, raw gypsum or phosphogypsum is used. By themselves, these substances are not chemically aggressive. The acidification mechanism is simple: one component of gypsum (calcium) displaces sodium from soil particles, and the other its component (sulphate) binds sodium to form a neutral salt, as a result of which the degree of salinity decreases. Doses of gypsum depend on specific conditions and are 4–10 kg / m².
Important: do not be afraid that the soil will seize from the introduction of gypsum, like a plaster cast. On the contrary, the physical properties, including air permeability and water retention capacity of the soil will improve markedly ..... " https://aif.ru/dontknows/eternal/kak_borotsya_s_zasoleniem_pochvy
Other types of irrigation are also used. For example, drip, in which the water consumption is much lower. In Asia, it is practiced to pour water not on the planting itself, but into an irrigation ditch (a ditch around the garden bed). As a result, the earth is not covered with a crust from the hot sun and water flows to the root system.

[Vadim237]

There is no scarce supply there; Crimea, as it turned out, has its own underground seawater desalination plant for hundreds of millions of cubic meters per year.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Proxima

Yes, things are going. Recently, a water intake was opened on the Belbek River for water supply to Sevastopol and its environs. Much is being done and it pleases!

I read the memories of the canal builders online, here is one of them ...
Alexander Novalnev, who worked as a photojournalist for the newspaper Stroitel Kanal, recalls that during the construction of the third stage of the canal, it turned out that there was a lot of water of our own in Crimea. “In the Black Sea region, they began to dig a pit for the pumping station, and suddenly a powerful source of water hit from the ground. Some worker climbed into the water up to his waist, approached this gap and began to plug it than necessary. After that, the water stopped, it was pumped out and urgently poured with concrete. And at that moment I was standing next to the Hero of Socialist Labor Nikolai Slipchenko. He looks and says: “Recently, a bucket came off in a well. So he was found already in the Kerkinitsky Gulf a few days later. And they found out that this was exactly the bucket, according to the marking - there every thing was signed. This suggests that whole rivers flowed underground in the steppe Crimea ”.

[Terenin]

Quote: Proxima

Yes, things are going. Recently, a water intake was opened on the Belbek River for water supply to Sevastopol and its environs. Much is being done and it pleases!

Well done, builders! Respect to you.

[Your stranger]

How much is that river? And what will happen to the neighborhood below the water intake?

[Mitrich]

Only one thing confuses me. Practice shows that if you take water deep from the ground, over time, wells and wells begin to dry out .... Maybe desalination is still a panacea?

[Dym71]

Quote: Mitrich

Maybe desalination is a panacea after all?

For watering.

[APASUS]

Quote: Dym71

Quote: Mitrich

Maybe desalination is a panacea after all?

For watering.

For irrigation, you need to learn how to clean and use the water from sewage, which is practically free of charge is thrown into the sea and still pollutes it.

[Dym71]

Quote: APASUS

For irrigation, you need to learn how to clean and use water from sewage.

This is generally the height of perfection.

[APASUS]

Quote: Dym71

Quote: APASUS

For irrigation, you need to learn how to clean and use water from sewage.

This is generally the height of perfection.

There is nothing supernatural there. Israel has a technology where they extract water from the air in the desert

[Proxima]

Quote: Mitrich

Maybe desalination is a panacea after all?

It is very energy intensive and therefore expensive. It is cheaper to invade the Kherson region and clear the channel. All the same, Russia has nothing to lose and so spread rot - there is nowhere worse!

[Dym71]

Quote: Proxima

It is very energy intensive and therefore expensive.

Is reverse osmosis expensive?
Jews in their half of the country have greened and nothing, have not gone bankrupt.

[Proxima]

Quote: Dym71

Quote: Proxima

It is very energy intensive and therefore expensive.

Is reverse osmosis expensive?
Jews in their half of the country have greened and nothing, have not gone bankrupt.

Certainly expensive, compared to water intake from the river and artesian wells. The Jews simply have no alternative. It is not a channel for them to build the Euphrates-Jordan.

[Dym71]

Quote: Proxima

The Jews simply have no alternative.

And we do not have a water intake today, "Mitrich" writes about the problems of wells at 12:35 and another important point about free water - its absence, as such, disciplines you, don't you?

[alexmach]

And we have no water intake today

And the press will report what is there. At least one new one was recently built on the Belbek River. Yes, in the steppon Crimea is more difficult, there are only wells and water conduits from neighbors.

[Dym71]

Quote: alexmach

Yes, in the steppon Crimea is more difficult, there are only wells and water conduits from neighbors.

About him and speech, there agriculture needs watering.

[Narak-zempo]

Quote: Dym71

Is reverse osmosis expensive? belay
Jews in their half of the country have greened and nothing, have not gone bankrupt.

It may, of course, be inexpensive for a race that has been controlling the world's finances for centuries.

[Dym71]

Quote: Narak-zempo

It may, of course, be inexpensive for a race that has been controlling the world's finances for centuries.

Money is a tool, like a wrench, nothing more, straight arms and a bright head are much more important.
I think that the Russians, by the variety of their talents, are not inferior to the Jews, and in some ways we can give a hundred points ahead.

[Jager]

Notify a couple of hours in advance so that all workers get out of the dam and unblock it with a pair of "Dots-U".
Or to carry out the operation of the DRG, they have nothing to walk in Syria. To blame it on technical problems - the cement was stolen during construction)
Or to intimidate Ze with a sudden activation of the national liberation movement, for example, Romanians))

[Dimka75]

Water from the Dnieper on the way to the Crimea was raised by pumping stations. She herself does not flow to the Crimea. What are you going to bomb? Change the relief? For a couple of hours?

[Genry]

Quote: Dimka75

Water from the Dnieper on the way to the Crimea was raised by pumping stations.

And what for across the Crimean canal was built a dam?

[Avior]

In order to fill part of the canal from the nearest pumping station, it is used in the Kherson region

[Glennie]

And then what? Take Ruzhzho and go scare!

[Brturin]

Quote: Proxima

It is very energy intensive and therefore expensive.

here it is necessary to look at the place - The decision to build a desalination plant in Yalta has been made, the project is planned to be implemented by the end of next year. This was announced by the Deputy Prime Minister of the Crimean government Yevgeny Kabanov. "Design has already begun for Yalta. The contract is planned to be signed in June. The implementation period is the end of 2022"
RIA Novosti Crimea: https://crimea.ria.ru/economy/20210318/1119368434/Nazvany-sroki-stroitelstva-opresnitelnoy-ustanovki-v-Yalte.html

[Dkuznecov]

"invade ..".
It's like Remarque in "Shadows in Paradise".
"you will shoot the first on this list, and I will
the rest. Do you agree? "
The clerk figs. Kill the titmouse first,
if the hand rises ..

[Trapp1st]

over time, wells, wells begin to dry out ...

Reinforced concrete fact, but even earlier, a change in salinity may occur in the well, yet the sea is not far away. This is not a solution to the problem.

Maybe desalination is a panacea after all?

A good option, but then in between times you will have to build a nuclear power plant.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Trapp1st

Reinforced concrete fact, but even earlier, a change in salinity may occur in the well, yet the sea is not far away.

the Russian government has allocated 48 billion rubles to solve the problems of providing the Crimea with water.
Late, paid for, mastered, built, launched.

Quote: Trapp1st

A good option, but then in between times you will have to build a nuclear power plant.

Nuclear power plants also need water to cool and it is not salty at all.

[Trapp1st]

Nuclear power plants also need water to cool and it is not salty at all.

This issue was being worked out back in 1975. Here is the lake that was planned to be used for cooling

There are still many artifacts of a great civilization left there.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Trapp1st

Here is the lake that was planned to be used for cooling

So they would put the station. And then consider the temporary hut thrown, but the funds are spent. I don’t understand such decisions. There are stations to build on "partners" funds

[Trapp1st]

So they would put the station.

I agree by 110%, we would immediately solve the problem of water and electricity, besides, it was completed by 80%

[NDR-791]

Quote: Trapp1st

besides, it was 80% completed

Was, only for years Ukryanskie almost collapsed. Now it will be demolished, ostensibly for "security purposes."

Maybe the truth will put a new one in this place ???

[Horon]

Frequent earthquakes in Crimea! Do you want to repeat Chernobyl or Fukushima? They refused that the area is seismic.

[NDR-791]

So Turkey is also not a gift on account of earthquakes, but they agreed to our equipment. Westinghouse with the Fukushima puncture will stand on the sidelines. So I don’t think this is an argument.

[Horon]

You can think of it as anything, but I was then in Crimea and its closure was carried out under strong public pressure. Chernobyl had just burst, people were really afraid to get this in Crimea too. It is now possible to twist at the temple and talk about the stupidity of the decisions taken then. At that moment, Ukraine was part of the USSR, and it never occurred to anyone that it would degenerate into such ... a Russophobe. Although ... if you look already from the modern bell tower, then yes, even then she indulged in Russophobia, trying to impose the Ukrainians.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Horon

Now you can twist it at your temple and talk about the stupidity of the decisions made then.

Yes, I don’t twist, I just lived the first half of my life in Tomsk, and there in the city and around then there were ELEVEN operating reactors. After Chernobyl, only the measures were strengthened and several electronic displays with background readings were installed in the city for the population. No more changes happened, the people didn’t run up or run away. For me, a common thing - think, a reactor

[Horon]

Tomsk does not shake as much as the Crimea, and this, as they say, is a "health resort, a granary" (C) and a military base. In Crimea, by the way, earthquakes are very frequent, almost every week. They are mostly weak and most of them do not even pay attention to them, so the "green" then raised a fuss.

[Vadim237]

When using modern technical solutions for the construction of new nuclear power plants with earthquakes, there will be no problems - the problem will be in the cost, since such a nuclear power plant with 6 GWT with six units will cost 400-500 billion rubles. plus the cost of the associated infrastructure and the price tag will be huge - and water is needed now, so drilling wells, construction of water intakes and laying underground rivers in pipes, followed by water purification, as well as modernization and replacement of the entire water supply infrastructure of the island is seen as a much higher priority than the construction of a nuclear power plant for desalination water.

[Horon]

NPPs need to be developed from scratch, taking into account seismic activity, we are talking about an old project that has not been completed yet.

and water is needed now

What are we talking about.

[Vadim237]

There will be no temporary hut there - a solid project for the long term.

[Galleon]

A very small reservoir for cooling the nuclear power plant, even in Bilibino the reservoir is larger. For cooling, entire reservoirs were built: Beloyarskoye, Desnogorskoye. For example, the length of the enclosing dam on the Tsimlyansk reservoir is about 8,5 km, and the water in it is about 28-30 degrees in summer. It's like 15-20 such lakes.

[Jager]

And it's good that they didn't build it! Such an edge would inevitably be dirtied. I go to Shchelkino, since Ukraine has forbidden me to rest at home.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Trapp1st

A good option, but then in between times you will have to build a nuclear power plant.

And what to do with the colossal amount of "brine"?

[Horon]

To drive it into the Black Sea to a depth below 200 meters, there is already higher salinity and a total absence of life. There would be a desire. Although it may be the second stage, but now they are going through an emergency - to quickly provide people with water.

[moreman78]

Quote: Trapp1st

over time, wells, wells begin to dry out ...

Reinforced concrete fact, but even earlier, a change in salinity may occur in the well, yet the sea is not far away. This is not a solution to the problem.

Maybe desalination is a panacea after all?

A good option, but then in between times you will have to build a nuclear power plant.

By the way, the nuclear power plant in Crimea was founded back in the USSR, but it was unfinished and abandoned. It is not clear what prevents the continuation of construction, is it really cheaper to make thermal stations and all sorts of generators?
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The nuclear power plant was built to provide the peninsula with electricity. In addition, it was assumed that it would become the basis for the industrial development of the region. First of all, in the chemical field, as well as metallurgical and machine-building. The project consisted of two units with a capacity of 1 GW each, then the construction of two more units would increase the capacity to 4 GW.
Design surveys were carried out in 1968, and builders came in 1875.
At the end of 1980, the construction site was declared a shock Komsomol of Republican significance, and at the beginning of 1984 - already an All-Union shock.
In accordance with the plan, they created
the city of Shchelkino - a satellite of the NPP;
reservoir embankment;
various auxiliary objects.
In 1987, the construction of the power plant was suspended. Later, the economic situation in the country led to the final abandonment of the project, although it was 80% completed, as a result of which the great construction was abandoned.

[Horon]

It is now easier to design and redo. Some of the documentation will be lost (if not all), technologies have changed, requirements. What is left of the unfinished building can no longer be used for its original purpose. There are projects for floating nuclear power plants, why not create something based on them?

[Jager]

There is nothing to continue there, everything is destroyed, dismantled and plundered. Pieces of foundations and walls remained.

[Ugochaves]

If, as it is written, they will be taken from the water layers from a depth of up to 500 meters, then nothing will happen to your wells and even more so wells. Conventional wells are drilled to a much shallower depth.

[Terenin]

Quote: UgoChaves

If, as it is written, they will be taken from the water layers from a depth of up to 500 meters, then nothing will happen to your wells and even more so wells. Conventional wells are drilled to a much shallower depth.

Scientists from Ukraine said something similar during the construction of the Crimean bridge.

[Andobor]

Quote: Terenin

Scientists from Ukraine said something similar during the construction of the Crimean bridge.

So now, decent money is allocated for the fight against "Russian propaganda", so we see them and their mindless victims.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: Mitrich

Maybe desalination is a panacea after all?

Disposal of the resulting salt is problematic.

[iouris]

A couple of days ago I found and watched a video: supposedly artesian water is discharged into a canal, and does not flow to consumers through pipes. What is it like?

[Andobor]

Quote: iouris

the water is drained into the canal

Delivered through the canal while the pipe is being built, the pipes do not appear at the behest of the pike.

[iouris]

Do you mean SP-2?

[Andobor]

Quote: iouris

Do you mean SP-2?

No, it will also turn out another unique structure like the Crimean bridge, which is generally impossible to build - and all thanks to the PR of specialists from the Square.

[Operator]

For a complete solution of the issue of water supply to Crimea, it is high time to erect a dam for the Upper Dnieper water on the Russian-Belarusian border, then run it through a canal into the Don and then through a pipe through the Kerch Strait.

In Belarus, there are a lot of other natural sources of water - in extreme cases, they will build their own dam on the Middle Dnieper near the Belarusian-Ukrainian border.

[amr]

The aquifers will be emptied, tin will be, the place of fresh water will be taken by the sea, and this is already salinization, salt marshes, crop failures even in the presence of water (((the channel needs to be squeezed out !!!
I live in Saki, we have no problems with water in the village, artesian and with a scoop was ..... but yes, trouble, drought

[tihonmarine]

Quote: amr

artesian and with a scoop was ..... but yes, trouble, drought

It's unpleasant to read this if you were born in the USSR. Although maybe a Ukrainian ...

[Retvizan 8]

Russia really invests heavily in the development and infrastructure of Crimea, and the Clowns from Ukro-ina only arrange a buffoonery with hand-wringing and pretentious tragic speeches, continuing to stifle the peninsula with various blockades.
So who is really dear to Crimea?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Retvizan 8

So who is really dear to Crimea?

Russia!

[Ruslan Sulima]

Against the background of reports on the construction of a dam by Ukraine, this news looks quite appropriate and effective.

[Your stranger]

And it will last for a long time if the sewage goes into the sea, and not for cleaning and then from it for the same watering, etc.

[Kushka]

Quote: amr

The aquifers will be emptied, tin will be, the place of fresh water will be taken by the sea, and this is already salinization, salt marshes, crop failures even in the presence of water (((the channel needs to be squeezed out !!!
I live in Saki, we have no problems with water in the village, artesian and with a scoop was ..... but yes, trouble, drought

AGAIN! Soviet academicians were not
fools. If they "went" to construction
channel (hundreds of kilometers and hundreds of million rubles) - this means
they knew what they were doing. Drill holes in the mind
don't need much.

[Ruslan Sulima]

AGAIN! Soviet academicians were not
fools. If they "went" to construction
channel (hundreds of kilometers and hundreds of million rubles) - this means
they knew what they were doing. Drill holes in the mind
don't need much.

And what solution do you propose in the current situation? I ask you not to offer a military scenario)

[Kushka]

Notify a couple of hours in advance so that all workers get out of the dam and unblock it with a pair of "Dots-U".
I will definitely not offer this. Okay, man doesn't think
that this is war. Where will the water go? Into the ground? (NO channel!)
There are only two options:
1. Peace, friendship, canal, water.
2. Desalination (experience of Israel).

[Avior]

such a solution will not give anything, water does not flow through the canal by gravity, there are a number of pumping stations for pumping. turning off any of them will stop feeding.

[Jager]

with whom is the war, with Ukraine? In fact, they will never go into direct confrontation with the Russian Federation - the people there are more cunning than Saakashvili. Also, like the Russian Federation, it will not take away either the canal, or the dam, or the LPR from the DPR.

[Andobor]

Quote: Kushka

Soviet academicians were not
fools. If they "went" to construction
channel

Since Soviet times, when these decisions were made 50-70 years ago, the climate has changed a lot, humidity has increased, and there in the south of Russia, where after a year without irrigation everything burned out for a clean, now a stable harvest, and a year later records in gross harvest, without any irrigation, and many irrigation systems remained simply unclaimed, and this applies not only to Crimea.

[Kushka]

One thing has changed since the Soviet era:
Progressive impotence!
(read the list of built for
two pre-war Stalinist five-year plans).

[Horon]

And what do you offer here and now? Leave people without water? Or wait for the desalination stations to appear, it will be somewhere in 10-15 years!

[Kushka]

I haven't even heard two
words from Russian scientists on this topic.
And me, and you, what can we?
One thing is known - the military is working.
And the military people, of course, is ordered
dig-dig.

[Avior]

In Crimea, there is a shortage of fresh water for economic activities. By itself, no water intake increases its amount.
An increase in groundwater pumping will lead to the filling of saline layers and massive soil salinization, and this is already a serious problem for a long time.
There must be other, more complex solutions for changing the structure of the economy and water-saving technologies, and not just squeezing out the remnants of underground aquifers.

[Horon]

In the Kherson region, the same problem, Ukraine has already resolved the issue of water supply to this region, or is it waiting for Russia to "occupy" it, so that then with a clear conscience to give advice?

[Avior]

In the Kherson region there is no and there was no problem of water shortage, this problem was solved long ago in Soviet times, along with the solution of the problem of water supply to Crimea. The maximum we can talk about is the expansion of the network of irrigation canals, and not about the lack of water.

[Horon]

I had a better opinion of you.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/eadaily.com/ru/ampnews/2020/07/01/yuzhnye-regiony-ukrainy-porazila-zasuha-selskoe-hozyaystvo-gibnet

[Avior]

no need to be confused
there is irrigated agriculture, and there is non-irrigated.
depends on the specific farm and type of product. understandably, if the field is not irrigated, the drought will act. Last year was dry, so rain-fed agriculture was partially affected. 10 percent.

The harvest started in 8 districts of the Kherson region. The yield of winter barley and winter wheat decreased by 10-15% compared to last year.

http://agroportal.ua/news/rastenievodstvo/urozhainost-ozimykh-zernovykh-na-khersonshchine-zametno-nizhe-proshlogodnei/
just how is it related to the amount of water? where farms want to use irrigation, there is enough water
https://astra-group.ua/news/novini/s_orosheniem_i_vtoroj_urozhaj__realnost_opyt_vikol_hersonskaja_oblast.html
Those who used irrigation had enough water.

[Konnick]

According to the project, the Dnieper-Crimean canal was supposed to provide water for rice growing that was promising at that time, there was enough drinking water in Crimea. Then part of the water was taken for technical needs, but not for use as drinking. Over the past 6 years, a lot of housing has been built in Simferopol and Sevastopol, naturally there was a shortage. But this is not because of the Ukrainian dam, let them not rejoice. There is not enough for irrigation of irrigated fields and orchards. Drip irrigation how in Israel would partially solve the problem of irrigation and there would be no problems with land salinization. And you can buy rice in Vietnam. Crimea was created by nature for gardens and vineyards, but not for cucumbers and tomatoes. Until the 5th century, the Crimean climate made it possible to grow wheat in marketable quantities, which was resold by Greek cities to Byzantium and the Roman Empire. The climate is now drier.

[Andobor]

Quote: Konnick

the Crimean climate made it possible to grow wheat in a marketable quantity, which was resold by Greek cities to Byzantium and the Roman Empire.

And now the grain production in Crimea is three times higher than the needs of the region, the surplus is mainly sold there, the climate is now close to what it was before the 5th century.

[Basarev]

And how will they deal with salinization?

[Mountain shooter]

And generally speaking. People work. Solve the problem. And they will decide. As with a bridge, as with electricity ... With roads ... Reshat and with water. Nature helped a little, poured snow. The rain is pouring now. In short, we will decide. And the bloomers will once again wither away, and they will go to count how much money they could get for this water.

[rocket757]

A new water intake was launched in Crimea to provide water to the capital of the peninsula

water intake is part of the solution to a big problem ... it is necessary to introduce modern water saving technologies, first of all, and then solve other problems.
Only in a complex, with the participation of Crimean residents and other responsible !!!

[Horon]

All this is understandable, but this is in the long term, and people need water now. The main thing is that the "temporary" does not become permanent.

[rocket757]

Quote: Horon

The main thing is that the "temporary" does not become permanent.

There is a danger, unfortunately ...

[Ruslan Sulima]

it is necessary to introduce modern technologies of water saving, first of all,

Are you talking about washing your face first, then brushing your teeth with the same water, and then giving the cat a drink? That is, like in Europe?

[rocket757]

I already wrote in a similar topic that, although everything is more difficult than washing with ten men in one bath, but SOLVABLE!
I wrote it because we ourselves had to solve similar problems ... we must take it, do everything according to our mind, it is very useful for everything, everything, for the family budget too.

[zloybond]

There is fresh water in Crimea. An artesian well has been operating on the Arabat Spit for over 100 years and the depths are relatively shallow. (S, I. Mamontov (hikes and horses))

[svoit]

Quote: serguchcho

Rich experience in capturing aquifers from neighboring states? Thank. Do not.

The problem must be addressed in a comprehensive manner, and Israel has rich experience

Quote: A. Privalov

Syria tried to divert the waters of the Jordan River by cutting off the water supply to Israel and Jordan. Then I had to give her a hand and gouge the clowns-meliorators to hell.

When will Russia, too, give in hand and gouge the clowns-meliorators to hell?

[Glennie]

Belbek river? This "river" will know, become proud. And for artesian water, this is in vain, we are waiting for the salty water to go, then in general the kapets will be final.

[amr]

Quote: tihonmarine

It's unpleasant to read this if you were born in the USSR. Although maybe a Ukrainian ...

I was born in the USSR, I am not Ukrainian and not even Russian, I am impressed by our old scoop in many issues and just in matters of development and the future of the USSR I approached quite differently than now, I don’t understand what I wrote so bad? well at least the union built everything for centuries at the expense of this and we live ...
... there really is no water, at least put pluses, at least minus signs!

[amr]

Quote: Glenni

Belbek river? This "river" will know, become proud. And for artesian water, this is in vain, we are waiting for the salty water to go, then in general the kapets will be final.

there and then all the specialists are miliorators. you can’t argue with them .... they all know, but they don’t want to solve the problem of water with wells