MiG-21 fighter crashed in India

Just last week, a report was published in India on the need for a phased decommissioning of the MiG-21 aircraft in service with the country's air force, with the simultaneous replacement of them with more modern combat vehicles. And today a message comes from India about the fall of a third-generation front-line fighter.

According to the latest information, the plane crash with the MiG-21 "Bizon" (Indian classification) occurred while the pilot was performing a scheduled training flight in the central part of India.

The press service of the Indian Air Force confirms the information that the front-line fighter fell, while previously communication with it was lost.

The statement says that the MiG was flown by an experienced military pilot - the captain of the Indian Air Force A. Gupta. He died.
From the report:

An investigative group has been created, which must establish all the details of the incident and find out the cause of the plane crash.

This plane crash only spurred the discussion about the need to abandon the operation of MiG-21 fighters in the Indian Air Force. One of the subscribers to the Indian Air Force Twitter page (Aksai Luthra) urged to rather abandon such MiGs, calling them "turned over time into flying coffins."

Recall that in an air battle with aircraft of the Pakistani Air Force in February 2019, MiG-21 fighters were also used, one of which was shot down.

Comments

[tralflot1832]

The Romanians fly, the Hindus do not. Maybe routine maintenance should be carried out, and not put flowers for Krishna on the fuselage. Painful to relatives.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: tralflot1832

The Romanians fly, the Indians do not. Maybe routine maintenance should be carried out, and not put flowers for Krishna on the fuselage.

The climate there is such that it has a very negative effect on military equipment. And the MIG-21 is such an old technique that there are already manuals by cap. repair decayed.
We just have to express our condolences to our relatives.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: tralflot1832

The Romanians fly, the Hindus do not. Maybe routine maintenance should be carried out, and not put flowers for Krishna on the fuselage. Painful to relatives.

The Romanians duly upgraded and maintained the MiG-21.

.LTX: MiG-21 in Israeli - IAI MIG-21-2000 for the Romanian Air Force
MiG-21-2000 modification
Wingspan, m 7.154
Length, m 15.76
Height, m ​​4.71
Wing area, m2 23.0
Weight, kg
empty 5350 aircraft
normal takeoff 8825
maximum take-off 10500
Engine type 1 TRD MNPK Soyuz (Tumansky) R-25-300
Thrust, kN
unformed 1 x 40.26
forced 1 x 69.63
Maximum speed, km / h 2230 (M = 2.10)
Cruising speed, km / h 1300 (M = 1.06)
Practical range, km 1800
Combat radius of action, km 350-750
Maximum rate of climb, m / min 15250
Practical ceiling, m 18500
Max. 8.5 operational overload
Crew 1
Armament: two 23 mm guns GSh-23L
Combat load - 1500 kg at 5 suspension nodes
UR Pyton-4 or similar 3 or 4 generations,
guided bombs with laser and optical guidance, NUR.

... in early 1993, a Romanian-Israeli agreement was signed on the same topic. Israel Aircraft Industries (IAI) and Elbit undertook to prepare documentation and equipment kits for modifications, and the Romanian company Aerostar (formerly IAR Brasov) must mount this equipment on aircraft. Under the terms of the contract, about 100 MiG-21s of the Romanian Air Force are subject to completion.

The new aircraft received the designation MiG-21-2000. Its first copy is a modified MiG-21bis, bought by Israel in Nigeria. During the alterations, most of the aircraft's electronic equipment was replaced.

At the Paris Air Show in 1993, the Israeli exposition appeared the MiG-21 aircraft. On the plane there is an inscription: "MiG-21 2000". Two flags: Israeli and ... Romanian. The inscription "IAI" is the Israeli aviation industry and "Aerostar" is the corresponding structure of Romania. It turns out that the owner of the plane is Romania.

The director of the IAI test center, who is also the chief pilot of the company, or, as we call it, senior test pilot Shmul Menachem said: "I flew in various modifications of the twenty-first MiG." And in my opinion, this is an outstanding aircraft of its time, high-speed and for our days. Almost all of its systems are quite simple and reliable. However, the aircraft created in the late 50s is hopelessly outdated in armament, avionics and some of its parameters. Since it is in service in many countries of the world, it is mostly not having a lot of money to buy new expensive cars, the idea of ​​its modernization arose. So "IAI" decided to take up this business. The task was this: making minor modifications during the next scheduled repairs on the airframe, hydraulic systems, chassis, wheels - by changing the weapons , avionics and, possibly, a power plant to create an aircraft from a conventional MiG-21 capable of performing modern tasks no worse than later and, accordingly, expensive machines. it was necessary to replace the primitive for our time locator with direct sight, which has a range of about 12 nautical miles (20 km). Together with the installation of the new M 2032 multipurpose radar, the entire electrical system of the aircraft had to be replaced. In fact, the new cockpit with an integrated avionics system is equipped with three displays and an additional upper front panel designed to simplify the control of all electronic systems.

http://alternathistory.com/mig-21-po-izrailski-iai-mig-21-2000-dlya-vvs-rumynii/

[Klingon]

very worthy modernization of such an old aircraft I must say

[iouris]

The cost of new equipment is several times higher than the original cost of the aircraft. But I'm happy for Romania.

[NIKN]

India has MiG-21-93 aka "Bizon", also modernized. Another thing is how they serve ..., I can't say anything here, alas, I don't know. No one with a developed resource will not let it fly, not even the Indians. On the death of the pilot, my condolences.

[kapitan92]

Maximum speed, km / h 2230 (M = 2.10)
Cruising speed, km / h 1300 (M = 1.06)

I don't quite understand M = 1,06, cruising speed ???
Rather, the speed at the ground is 1300 km / h, and the cruising speed is less than swing.

[sharp-lad]

I noticed this discrepancy too.

[Aag]

Yes, really ... A unique machine. Which is unsurpassed in terms of its characteristics, mass scale, operating time. Probably, and in terms of utility / cost ratio.
Israeli modernization deserves respect as an example of the prudent use of the existing military equipment.

[Narak-zempo]

They put the lingam on maintenance.

[svp67]

"We rolled steep hills ..."

[Doliva63]

Quote: svp67

"We rolled steep hills ..."

Well, the Indians do not pull the "steep hills", in my opinion, but "rolled" - yes.

[Thrifty]

Well, firstly, my condolences to relatives and colleagues, and secondly, we do not know how the planes were operated and repaired, so there are more questions for the Indians than ready-made answers.

[Slavutich]

Yes, technology, everything happens

[Jolly Roger]

"The fatal incident occurred this morning during the takeoff of a MiG-21 Bizon during a training mission at an airbase in central India."

"Pilots don't die, they fly away and don't come back."
Antoine de Saint-Exupery, writer and pilot ...
Sorry for the pilot, he was an experienced military pilot ...

[Pete mitchell]

Sorry for the guy, he flew away ...

[knn54]

Guess what. The plane is difficult to fly. It has been flying since 1963. Spare parts were bought not only in the USSR or in the Russian Federation.
Compared with the "peers" - Jaguars, Mirage-3, F-104 for 2011 (when they were still in operation), then the% of losses was 32 ... 37. In Brazil, almost every second.
In India, 25%.
By the way, the MiG-21 does not tolerate "recklessness".

[Ros 56]

Strange, but we do not fall. Maybe it's enough to torment the MiG-21, they already have a place in museums.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Ros 56

Strange, but we do not fall. Maybe it's enough to torment the MiG-21, they already have a place in museums.

It would be strange for us to have them fall - we have not had them for a long time.
From another life: I served on the Su-17, once a "neighbor" on the MiG-21 sat down to us, rolled past the taxi - falling, what a bug ?! When the pilots that in Vietnam were instructors on the MiG-21 told me about it, I even went to his parking lot - I stroked the veteran's wing. Yes, they belong in museums and in our memory.

[Ros 56]

That's right, because we do not have them in the Air Force, and I write that they do not fall. It's just that any technique, and even more so for aviation, comes the time of its worthy replacement.
But flight copies must be preserved for showing to grandchildren-great-grandchildren, and it is worthless to forget them themselves.

[Doliva63]

Quote: Ros 56

That's right, because we do not have them in the Air Force, and I write that they do not fall. It's just that any technique, and even more so for aviation, comes the time of its worthy replacement.
But flight copies must be preserved for showing to grandchildren-great-grandchildren, and it is worthless to forget them themselves.

Flight specimens are, like, flying? It would be cool!

[Ros 56]

Why not, what a beauty, Germans !!!! on the I-16, apparently restored fly and normally. And our men restored the Il-2 and also flies and Po-2 flies and Yak

And the planes of what age, there would be a desire, and of course tugriks.

[Doliva63]

I am for it"!

[NF68]

They are still flying.

[xorek]

Hindus, why do you all fly in "old Soviet"? You bought all kinds of Western fighters? Afraid of breaking expensive toys?
Is the Soviet still more reliable? They also need to be serviced and s \ h Or did you think that they are eternal ... Even with packs on Soviet fighters they fought .. Strange people!

[petrol cutter]

God forgive me ...
I thought they no longer exist in nature ...
Here people are still trying to fly them ...
Return the airplane to the museum. And buy a normal MIG.
Or SU.

[Aviator_]

And buy a normal MIG.

Hindus are the same gypsies. Once every 5 years, they send us a technical specification for equipment that they would like to buy and install at home. Then the songs and dances begin - the agreement of the TK for about a year. And everything freezes, does not reach the agreement. It takes 5 years - and all over again.

[hydro]

If you do not upgrade, do not extend the resource, naturally it will fall, yes, it is a very old aircraft, but for reconnaissance, for a small air battle, it is not bad

[Baron pardus]

Yes, it's a good car, I don't know if it is superior to the F-5E, I read that the F-5e is better in terms of maneuverability and climb rate. F5E has a better radar and carries more load. Mig has better afterburner speed. I read about the tests of the F-5E against the MiG-21Bis and MiG-23M. If not a duck, then even the Soviet Pilots admitted that the F-5E is better than both. In any case, sorry for the car, sorry for the pilot. I often deal with Hindus in the USA - good doctors, and nice people in communication. The Chinese, by the way, have attached new wings to the MiG-21. And immediately the maneuverability and climb rate became better.

https://forums.eagle.ru/topic/120998-f-5e-vs-mig-21-soviet-test-pilots-insight

[Viktor Afanasev]

If there is decent maintenance, the Vimana MiG-21 will be able to fly normally for decades.
Great car. And the Indians don't need any bells and whistles ...

[Evil 55]

Fell from powerlessness to fly ..