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"Made a great contribution to the defense of China": PLA Air Force begins to decommission the J-7 fighter

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The PLA Air Force began to phase out the J-7 fighters, replacing them with more advanced models of the next generation.


As noted in the CCTV edition, one of the J-7-equipped air brigades already expects to receive new vehicles soon.

J-7 - the main aircraft in the Chinese navy second generation fighters

- explains in the Global Times, pointing out that it has excellent flight characteristics, with a ceiling of 20 thousand meters and having a maximum speed of Mach 2.

According to the Chinese media, the J-7 can work together with its 3rd generation "counterparts" and AWACS aircraft, "playing a unique role in combat." Through many upgrades to the J-7, China has gained experience that has allowed it to create new models, in particular the JL-9 trainer.

J-7 has made a great contribution to the protection of China's airspace

- noted in the Global Times.

However, against the background of the arrival of new cars (J-10, J-11, J-16 and J-20), the old model sooner or later had to leave service. For example, the J-10 has more advanced combat qualities, being able to conduct more effective aerial combat and at the same time having the ability to strike at ground targets. In this regard, the PLA Air Force began to write off the J-7 fighter.

A number of experts argue that the J-7 is actually a copy of the Soviet front-line fighter MiG-21F-13. Back in the early 1990s, this family left the combat ranks of the Air Force of the post-Soviet states, including Russia.
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  1. Eldorado
    Eldorado 15 March 2021 23: 57
    +7
    Eh! Nice car! A copy of the MiG-21. Simple, reliable and cheap.
    1. Andrey Yuryevich
      Andrey Yuryevich 16 March 2021 06: 04
      +2
      Quote: El Dorado
      Eh! Nice car! A copy of the MiG-21. Simple, reliable and cheap.

      and very beautiful. and a beautiful plane, as you know, cannot fly badly. This is me about the MIG 21. I was lucky, I touched it ... in the museum.
    2. NIKN
      NIKN 16 March 2021 13: 53
      +1
      Quote: El Dorado
      Eh! Nice car! A copy of the MiG-21

      A copy of the airframe and engine, yes. but here's the statement
      A number of experts claim that the J-7 is actually a copy of a Soviet front-line fighter. MiG-21F-13
      almost like that. There BRO is significantly different, rather it is closer to the MiG-21 93 if not to the MiG-21 2000 ...
      Although not on the MiG-21 2000 does not pull clearly.
  2. mvg
    mvg 16 March 2021 00: 00
    +3
    And in Syria it would be useful. Can take 3000 kg of cast iron and drive the UAV with 4 rockets
    1. dgonni
      dgonni 16 March 2021 00: 26
      +7
      He will not detect them, and even on pointing at him will not come out.
      It is about past wars and tactics.
      1. mvg
        mvg 16 March 2021 01: 09
        +7
        even on pointing at it will not work.

        If the modernization there is about the same level as the Bison among the Indians, then it is quite normal. Bison has an Israeli radar station from Elbit. The most important thing is to give the R-73 control center so that it captures the target. And on the UAV itself J-7 will display a ground-based radar
      2. Nosgoth
        Nosgoth 16 March 2021 18: 33
        0
        do you think the whales have never modernized it over the years? just flying for fun?
    2. Bongo
      Bongo 16 March 2021 01: 54
      +9
      Quote: mvg
      And in Syria it would be useful. Can take 3000 kg of cast iron and drive the UAV with 4 rockets

      Maxim, you overestimated the weight of "cast iron" by about 3 times.
      1. mvg
        mvg 16 March 2021 15: 32
        +2
        the weight of "cast iron" you overestimated by about 3 times

        hi
        Well, I like fishing. From the heart.
        The first MiG21s carried only 2 air-to-air missiles, then 4 of them.

        And so yes, it can take useful up to 1000 kg
  3. dauria
    dauria 16 March 2021 00: 19
    +5
    Back in the early 1990s, this family left the fighting ranks of the Air Force of the post-Soviet states, including Russia.


    It seems that in Markuleshty the latter were removed from the armament of the USSR already in 1985. Then only for export they riveted in Gorky. Where did he come from in the "fighting ranks" of Russia?
    1. Bongo
      Bongo 16 March 2021 02: 04
      +9
      Quote: dauria
      Back in the early 1990s, this family left the fighting ranks of the Air Force of the post-Soviet states, including Russia.


      It seems that in Markuleshty the latter were removed from the armament of the USSR already in 1985. Then only for export they riveted in Gorky. Where did he come from in the "fighting ranks" of Russia?

      MiG-21bis fighters, twin MiG-21UM, MiG-21R reconnaissance aircraft were operated as part of the USSR Air Force until August 1991. Subsequently, these machines went to the "independent" states formed on the ruins of the USSR.
      1. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 16 March 2021 08: 59
        +5
        An acquaintance in the early 90s retired from Kyrgyzstan. He was an aircraft mechanic. So, according to him, there were exactly 21s.
        1. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 17 March 2021 11: 17
          +1
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          An acquaintance in the early 90s retired from Kyrgyzstan. He was an aircraft mechanic. So, according to him, there were exactly 21s.

          Quite possible. Because practically only the Russian Federation in the early 90s in one fell swoop wrote off almost all combat aircraft of the 3rd generation, reducing the number of combat aircraft by three times at once.
          In other republics, especially in Central Asia, they held out longer.
          Incl. there was a scandal when the United States almost imposed sanctions on Kazakhstan for the supply of MiG-21s to the DPRK, the second time the Kazakhs again tried to supply the DPRK with these aircraft, but the transport plane was detained at the Baku airport ...
          In general, a lot of rubbish remained in the Central Asian republics, unlike other republics of the former Union, where they quickly got rid of it, but in other republics there were many new aircraft ...
          1. The leader of the Redskins
            The leader of the Redskins 17 March 2021 11: 28
            +2
            In Turkmenistan, in 2003, near Baharden, I saw a hefty storage of 3 generation aircraft. Then they were still neatly placed under the covers. Now I do not know...
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 17 March 2021 12: 11
              +1
              Quote: Leader of the Redskins
              In Turkmenistan, in 2003, near Baharden, I saw a hefty storage of 3 generation aircraft. Then they were still neatly placed under the covers.

              These were Su-7B / -17s, there were about 300 of them left there ..., now they must have been drunk, in any case, they are not in the combat strength, all the republics in the 90s drank the surplus of V and VT ...
              Now there are fifty Soviet-made combat aircraft, the republic is rich, but there is a very big problem with personnel, incl. and in the civil sector, because all "European" nationalities (including engineers, managers at enterprises, ministries, in the Armed Forces) of the former Union were driven out of the republic ...
              1. The leader of the Redskins
                The leader of the Redskins 17 March 2021 12: 12
                0
                I know I talked. Then, even on Independence Day, Su-25 and Mi-8 with Russian crews flew in the skies over Ashgabat - there simply weren't any of our own!
                1. Lara Croft
                  Lara Croft 17 March 2021 12: 20
                  0
                  Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                  Then, even on Independence Day, Su-25 and Mi-8 with Russian crews flew over Ashgabat in the skies - there simply weren't any of our own!

                  The Su-25 and MiG-29 remained, but it's not unlikely that they have sunk to the complete absence of pilots, it's just that the air traffic is probably small and there is no one to service the aircraft, for the parade they probably just invited ours ...
                  The RF does not have a military base there, our border guards left there in 2000.
                  Territorial disputes with Uzbekistan over the delimitation of the Amu Darya river basin, neighboring Iran is breaking into the Caspian with its oil production without asking "orphans" ....
                  In general, Ashgabat is strange, first of all it is invested in the Air Force and the Navy, what are they doing with the SV ....?
  4. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 16 March 2021 00: 29
    +7
    PLA Air Force began phasing out J-7 fighters

    J-7 is actually a copy of the Soviet front-line fighter MiG-21F-13

    The PLA combat aircraft being removed from service could take, for example, Eun .....
    1. K150
      K150 16 March 2021 04: 58
      -2
      He has more modern versions, the same Chinese copies of the mig-29 / su-27
      1. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 16 March 2021 08: 22
        +1
        Quote: K150
        He has more modern versions, the same Chinese copies of the mig-29 / su-27

        The PRC has never made copies of the MiG-29, the PLA Air Force has never stood and does not have MiG-29s ...
        As for the Su-27, yes, they really are in service with the PLA Air Force, in the form of aircraft produced in the Russian Federation and under license in the PRC .... the local designation of the Su-27 produced in the PRC is J-11 and J-11B / BS.
        So, recently there has been a lot of talk about the Shenyang J-11B fighter, which is a deep modernization of the J-11 / Su-27SK. According to some sources, the serial production of the J-11B began in the second half of the 11s, and to date, several dozen of these aircraft have been produced. It also provides information on the conversion of the original J-XNUMX into a modernized version with the letter "B".

        https://topwar.ru/28614-razvitie-i-perspektivy-vvs-noak.html
        The KPA has only Soviet-supplied MiG-29s.
        The newest Air Force machines are the 35 MIG-29S fighters with an improved fire control system. These machines, in fact, are the only modern fighters. According to the existing data, most of these vehicles are concentrated in Pyongyang’s air defense, which can only be explained by the paranoia of the country's authorities (since Pyongyang’s air defense is already strong enough, and the 35 fighters add little to it). Probably, the machines are maintained in good condition.

        https://topwar.ru/2449-sravnivaem-vvs-kndr-i-yuzhnoj-korei.html
        in service with the KPA Air Force have never stood and are not the Su-27.
        I have long been interested in incl. KPA, so if you send a link to the presence of Su-27 aircraft in the KPA Air Force, incl. their Chinese licensed version, I promise to add +++ to your comments all week, what nonsense you would not write here ...
        1. Bongo
          Bongo 17 March 2021 02: 09
          +3
          Quote: Lara Croft
          As for the Su-27, yes, they really are in service with the PLA Air Force, in the form of aircraft manufactured in the Russian Federation and licensed in the PRC ...

          Su-27SK built at KnAAZ in China were written off two years ago.
      2. Toucan
        Toucan 16 March 2021 08: 30
        0
        J-11 (Chinese copy of Su-27) is not in the DPRK. As for the "Chinese copy" of the MiG-29, could you tell us how this Chinese fighter is designated?
    2. Bongo
      Bongo 17 March 2021 02: 07
      +2
      Taking into account the fact that the construction of the J-7 in the PRC was completed about 15 years ago, these aircraft have exhausted the airframe resource.
  5. Izotovp
    Izotovp 16 March 2021 01: 10
    +6
    It would have a modern engine, avionics and a modern outboard radar complex ...! Lightweight fighter-analogue Gripen.
    1. bayard
      bayard 16 March 2021 01: 54
      +5
      This is exactly the option developed by China for Pakistan.
      1. Izotovp
        Izotovp 16 March 2021 02: 49
        +3
        As far as I remember, the last modernization was carried out by Israel for the Bulgarian Air Force.
    2. Bongo
      Bongo 16 March 2021 02: 05
      +5
      Quote: Izotovp
      It would have a modern engine, avionics and a modern outboard radar complex ...! Gripen lightweight fighter

      It's easier to build a new light fighter like the J-10.
  6. Intruder
    Intruder 16 March 2021 02: 30
    +4
    It was an excellent car and was maneuverable, the barmaleevs were driving in Afghanistan, by the way ... Now this scheme with new composites and an engine and avionics, plus with an SD, a light frontline drummer would come out great, and with a ceiling of 20 km, he would laugh over many modern types of older Dryers! laughing wink
  7. Oleg Aviator
    Oleg Aviator 16 March 2021 07: 40
    -1
    Good old MiG21), when creating new aircraft, not only the Chinese drew inspiration from it. F16 also appeared thanks to him.
  8. Lara Croft
    Lara Croft 16 March 2021 08: 46
    0
    Quote: Bongo
    MiG-21bis fighters, twin MiG-21UM, MiG-21R reconnaissance aircraft were operated as part of the USSR Air Force until August 1991.

    Probably.
    According to Wiki:
    Since 1992, a series of massive reductions in the number of aviation began, while maintaining the generally unchanged structure of the Soviet Air Force. During this period, all obsolete aircraft were decommissioned. The combat composition of the Air Force, Air Defense Aviation and the Navy by the end of the period was represented almost exclusively by fourth-generation aircraft. (Tu-22M3, Su-24M / MR, Su-25, Su-27, MiG-29 and MiG-31). The total strength of the Air Force and Air Defense Aviation has been reduced by almost three times - from 281 to 102 aviation regiments

    However, they could still be in service with training aviation regiments and as part of military aviation schools for a long time.
  9. faterdom
    faterdom 16 March 2021 11: 51
    0
    We call "Jay Seven" juices. Apple there, or tomato ...