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Decades later: Afghanistan is not needed?

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Mother's letter



I have known Nina Pavlovna Buravtseva for a long time, the mother of the border guard Pavel Buravtsev, who died in a battle near the Afghan village of Afridzh. There, when it was already getting dark in the mountains, 23 border fighters, together with two officers, took the battle.

They, surrounded by hundreds of Mujahideen from almost nearby villages, did not flinch, did not retreat. 19 fighters of the border were killed that evening on the mountain terraces. Nobody came to their aid. Two nights and one day later, only the bodies of the dead were collected. This happened on November 22-24, 1985.

Mother felt the death of her son Pavel on that tragic day at once. Thousands of kilometers separating them were not a hindrance. This is not mysticism, everyone who lost their children in the war knows about it. God forbid anyone to experience this!

Decades later: Afghanistan is not needed?

Just the other day I received a letter from Nina Pavlovna. She can be understood, she is the mother of the deceased son-border guard, and even after decades the pain from this does not subside.

“February 15, 2021,” writes Buravtseva, “marks 32 years since the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afghanistan. This is the Day of Remembrance of our soldiers who performed their official duty outside the Fatherland.

Who in Russia remembers this? Ask any schoolboy, student what they know about this date? I'm sure no one will answer this question for you. The war took place under the heading "secret", zinc coffins with "Cargo-200" covered Soviet cities, towns and villages. They try to keep silent about many other events “beyond the river”.

If in the first years after the end of the Afghan war, at least some commemorative events were held in the country, at present only short messages on federal TV channels remind us of those tragic events. Russia is trying with all its might to forget about this, to erase from our memory the officers and soldiers who, on the orders of the Motherland, shed blood in a foreign land.

The celebration of the very date of memory of the victims, as they already say, in the colonial wars, somehow imperceptibly moved from the federal level to the regional one. In Stavropol, where I live, this day was always greeted solemnly. A rally was opened near the monument to the Red Guard soldier, which was attended by veterans of not only Afghanistan, but also the Chechen events, mothers of dead soldiers, schoolchildren, representatives of the city administration.

The rally ended with commemorative tables placed in tents, with the obligatory treat of buckwheat soldier's porridge and the required combat 100 grams. This year, due to the pandemic, the rally was canceled, although wreaths and flowers were laid at the monument. "

In my story, I will return to this mother's letter.

In the meantime, I will turn over the pages of the list of irrecoverable losses of servicemen of the Red Banner Eastern Border District of the KGB of the USSR. The soldiers of this section of the border, as well as the soldiers of the Red Banner Central Asian Border District, bore the brunt of the Afghan trials. That voluminous obituary dates from July 1991.

The district lost the first seven border guards in October 1981, the last in the afterlife mention is private Eugene Kachalko, called up from the city of Frunze (now Bishkek - Auth.). He died on December 10, 1988 and is buried in his hometown.

You will have to start from the churchyard


Once upon a time in the editorial office of the district newspaper KVPO "Sentinel Motherland", where I served, the idea was born to write a large material about each of those who died in the Afghan crucible of war. But the Union collapsed, and all ideas turned to dust. All this can be restored now, but it is already very difficult.

But there is something to start with - the list contains the places where the guys are called up, and there is another column - opposite each surname - “The body was handed over to the parents for burial”. This indicates that it is necessary to begin, sadly to realize, with the churchyard.


The multi-page list lists 87 dead. Of these - 9 officers, the remaining 78 - warrant officers, sergeants, corporals and privates. Why do I make such a division? A bullet or a splinter in battle does not choose which epaulettes you wear. But it was on the shoulders of the latter that the brunt of the hostilities "beyond the river" fell.

It was they who suffered the main losses in the Afghan mountains. As well as on the battlefields of the Great Patriotic War. Many are still lying unidentified and unburied with honors.

But just as after that popular and merciless Soviet people learned the whole truth about the wartime hard times, with few exceptions, only from the memoirs of marshals, commanders and generals, so after the Afghan epic, most of them appeared only solid volumes of memoirs of representatives of the general and officer corps.

Six withdrew from the battle


Yes, only six got out of the fight. And four more were forgotten and were not even awarded with awards. I do not undertake to investigate all the military memoirs that have been published over the years; I will dwell a little on the three-volume edition of "Border Guards in the Fire of Afghanistan."


Solid folios of landscape format, coated paper, exceptional design, a rich selection of photo illustrations. And the articles themselves. There are a lot of them, but mainly from generals or generals, then senior officers, officers, and about all the other border fighters, survivors and dead, only a little bit, separate scanty blotches.

There is almost nothing about those who directly carried out the order. The first volume has 12 more pages of memory. They list everyone who died in Afghanistan. Surnames, first names, patronymics, dates of birth and death, titles and positions are indicated in full.

And what was the border guard awarded? Where is buried? The compilers of the memoirs considered it inappropriate to indicate this. Why so, I do not know. I turned to the representatives of the editorial board, the leadership of the group of authors, why is the information about the border guards who died so scanty?

In my opinion, a whole volume could be devoted to this. Necessarily with a photograph of the deceased border guard and a short narration with the obligatory indication of the place of his final resting place. But for this it is necessary to carry out a gigantic and complex work. The country lost 518 border guards in the Afghan war crucible.

I was asked to write about the tragic battle in the Zardev Valley on November 22, 1985. They gave very little time for this, the layout of the third volume was already coming to an end. I had to work hard at the computer, but I did it, as it seemed to me, on time, sent it away.

Stingy lines, nothing else ...


The next volume "Border Guards on Fire of Afghanistan" has been released. My sketch was not there. Nobody was going to explain to me why this happened. What for…

After a certain time, veteran border guards said that the compilers preferred the memoirs of the legendary commander of the Eastern DShMG Colonel Pavel Dementyevich Ushkalov to my essay. Unfortunately, he is no longer with us, and eternal memory to this legendary officer.

In his memoirs, he wrote about that tragedy in his own way. He and his subordinates got the hardest thing in that harsh stories: find and collect all the bodies of 19 dead border guards. There was still no information about who was lying and where, and it was not ruled out that some of them were taken to Pakistan. And until everyone was found, this version pulsed.

Pavel Dementyevich spoke most fully about two seriously wounded border guards and how they got out of the battle. But without surnames. And I think that the creative staff of the publication, working on the materials of Ushkalov's memoirs, made an unforgivable mistake.

They should and were obliged to make additions to Pavel Dementyevich's true memoirs: there were two seriously wounded in that November battle - private Vyacheslav Deriglazov and junior sergeant Vladimir Gavrilyuk.


And it was Deriglazov who, overcoming the terrible pain in his body, dragged Gavrilyuk on himself, saving him from the inevitable reprisals of the Mujahideen. Somewhere in a squalid shed, he left Vladimir and wandered on to the location of the outpost. Fortunately, the border fighters, having received a message from Vyacheslav, went into the night, found Gavrilyuk and brought him to a safe place.

They both survived, the Motherland marked them with the Orders of the Red Banner. Although, I think that the border guards nominating for awards, obviously stingy. Deriglazov could well have been marked for his feat in battle and for saving his dying comrade with the Star of the Hero of the Soviet Union. But that did not happen…

In war as in war?


In Ushkalov's memoirs, there is also a mention of four other servicemen who arrived after that November battle at the location of the outpost unharmed. They are also not listed by surname. I restore this gap. These are privates Sergei Borozdin, Oleg Vasilyuk, Vitaly Lazarev and Sergei Korsakov.

They were then questioned for a long time, forced to write explanatory notes, and then sent to serve. In war as in war, anything happens. But usually those who miraculously survived and survived after a fire grinder are somehow celebrated. Four border guards, who went through the battle with everyone, were not even honored with awards.

They live like this for 35 years, rejoicing that they were still alive, experiencing all in their own way the Afghan tragedy and remember all who died. And what are the rewards, but God is with them, they say. Stingy, oh and stingy is our Fatherland, albeit the former Soviet Union!

Currently, work is underway on the fourth volume of memoirs of border guards who have passed through Afghanistan. Whether it will contain memoirs from sergeants and privates, I don't know. I don't think so. I would like to be wrong about that ...

Maybe it will seem to someone that my personal resentment is evident in this, they say, they did not publish, he now reveals already tragic facts. No, not at all: it's just that we are all endowed with surnames and first names by our parents from birth. So let's get to the bottom of just such a layer of attitude towards a person who is wounded or died, and not write or talk about him other than "sergeant" and "private".

And again the mother's pain


I again return to the letter of Nina Pavlovna Buravtseva.

“It's nice,” she writes, “that my son and 18 border guards who died with him in the battle on November 22, 1985, were recently remembered and honored at a meeting of students at the Stavropol State Pedagogical Institute. The initiators of this conversation were the Deputy Chairman of the DOSAAF of the Stavropol Territory Yu. A. Kotov and Associate Professor of the Department of Russian and World Literature Bella Mkhtse.

First of all, the students were introduced to the history of the Afghan war. The teacher bitterly told how Pasha Buravtsev and his comrades were ambushed, how they accepted the battle, fought fiercely and died.

Then a simple heart-to-heart conversation began. The guys were interested in everything related to Pavlik: how he grew up, studied, prepared for service in the border troops, went on mountain hikes, was friends and loved. "


A veteran of the Afghan war A. Yu. Sukhomlinov also spoke to the students. The teacher Bella Zaurovna paid special attention to Pavlik's letters to his beloved girlfriend Galina, published back in 1989.

In her opinion, as a specialist in philology, they contain not only historical, but also literary value. She simply read selected excerpts from Paul's letters. And it immediately became clear - this is a real example of the feelings of a border fighter who have suffered through heart and soul, who found himself in an extreme situation.

Then the dean of the pedagogical faculty N.A.Leonova made a proposal to organize a patriotic club at the institute. Among the students, those who wanted to become members of this association immediately appeared. First of all, the club members decided to republish Pavel Buravtsev's letters "But we won't forget each other." Hope the students can handle it.

More years will pass, and will the memory remain?


Years will pass. It is not at all excluded that the memory of that war in Russia may completely disappear, but the letters of a simple border guard from distant Afghanistan to his beloved girl will remain. In the soul of every person reading these letters, questions will certainly arise - and when there was this war, why do we know nothing about it, do not remember the heroes of those battles at all?

I don’t undertake to predict anything, but the mother of Pavel Buravtsev’s son, who died in Afghanistan, is painfully right. You can't deceive a mother's heart. She understands that Russia wants to forget this damn Afghanistan as soon as possible. It does not fit into modern reality in any way.

Even in the discussion of Afghan problems, which generally still concern us, official Russia now prefers not to participate. Isn't that why we all, except those who were there, are silent on this day, February 15?

This is not an accusation, not a reproach, this is a harsh chronicle of the past. At least the last two years. You just remember them and immediately understand everything.

But how simple it would be. Start talking at the federal level in the morning about this difficult and difficult event in our history, remember everyone who did not return from there, apologize to the mothers who lost their sons, say kind words to the survivors.

You look, and it would be a little easier for the mothers to whom the sons from Afghanistan once returned only in zinc coffins. And some wrinkles on their faces would be smoothed out. They are still just silent, looking in vain on this day at the screen of working TVs: what if they say something about that long-term tragedy at least once a year. But it's all in vain ...

So it turns out that the poet Viktor Verstakov, who was more than once in that Afghan war, is right, a thousand times right.

Sometimes you get to the TV box -
oh, what the hell is he blue!
Nothing about the present
not a damn thing about you and me.
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  1. Civil
    Civil 16 March 2021 06: 37
    +22
    Is it better with the veterans of the Chechen campaigns? And how did the veterans of the Second World War leave in the 90s and 00s? How conscience allows you to play patriotism, building pantheons for the dead and not wanting to help the living.
    1. nnm
      nnm 16 March 2021 07: 23
      +13
      Yes, something is broken in our state, in the minds of many of our fellow citizens - we are worried about how the facelift went (at best) at another star, but we don’t think about how the veteran of local wars lives after wounds, the list of which is on a whole page, we follow the broadcasts from the palaces of the new bohemia, but we also don’t want to think about where the lonely mother of a soldier who died in Grozny lives, we ourselves watch slop on TV, not wondering why they pour anything into our heads , but in no case want to discuss really important issues.
      Therefore, our main task is to teach children the right things, not to pass by when you can help at least with something, even just let a friend speak out, who was once again "covered" with memories and, of course, not to forget who you once were when we grow up to serious posts.
      Once, one friend over a glass of "tea" said that his strongest memory for many years of service, then when he realized that he had done something good in life - tears in the eyes of a "Chechen" documents on participation, but everyone was too lazy to waste time trying to figure it out) to whom he, under his own responsibility, issued a "veteran" certificate after 2 years of torment for a young guy who received a disability there, in Chechnya, at 18 ...
      1. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 16 March 2021 07: 48
        +5
        the moment when there are no words ...
        1. Aag
          Aag 16 March 2021 21: 16
          +1
          Quote: Aerodrome
          the moment when there are no words ...

          ..... On the one hand, I agree ...
          On the other hand, if we have no words, our children will not have memory, even knowledge!
          And the Heroes of Russia will be golikovs, ... and the like.
    2. Doctor
      Doctor 16 March 2021 07: 24
      +10
      Is it better with the veterans of the Chechen campaigns? And how did the veterans of the Second World War leave in the 90s and 00s? How conscience allows you to play patriotism, building pantheons for the dead and not wanting to help the living.

      WWII veterans are still held in high esteem. And the "Afghans" too. And with the veterans of Chechnya, things are worse, politics, however. wink
      1. lwxx
        lwxx 16 March 2021 07: 34
        +9
        ]
        And with the veterans of Chechnya, things are worse, politics, however. wink

        Especially with the first Chechen, they generally try not to remember. There are friends, some in the first, some in the second, and there are those who have passed both. So the guys from the first are rarely called where (well, if on the day of the internationalist warrior), and those who passed the second are invited more often.
      2. Alexga
        Alexga 16 March 2021 12: 25
        +4
        Any soldier, sergeant, officer and general who died while fulfilling the orders of his Motherland is worthy of eternal national memory!
        1. xorek
          xorek 16 March 2021 19: 42
          +3
          Quote: AlexGa
          Any soldier, sergeant, officer and general who died while fulfilling the orders of his Motherland is worthy of eternal national memory!

          I agree ! And when they begin to reason and discuss orders, usually first the Army falls apart, and then the country begins and a bloody turmoil begins, as in the 90s ..
      3. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 16 March 2021 13: 20
        +1
        Quote: Arzt
        And with the veterans of Chechnya, things are worse, politics, however

        It depends on which side you fought on. bully Take, for example, the current leadership of Chechnya and the apparatus of the Ministry of Internal Affairs - a normal respect for the dudes! wassat
    3. Flooding
      Flooding 16 March 2021 07: 33
      +6
      Quote: Civil
      And how veterans of the Great Patriotic War left in the 90s and 00s

      left forgotten not only by the state, but also by us.
      if we do not forgive ourselves such things, then we will even more ask from the state.
    4. Lynx2000
      Lynx2000 17 March 2021 10: 00
      +3
      Quote: Civil
      Is it better with the veterans of the Chechen campaigns? And how did the veterans of the Second World War leave in the 90s and 00s? How conscience allows you to play patriotism, building pantheons for the dead and not wanting to help the living.

      The combatant who received this status or the family of the deceased receives a monthly payment of 1,5-2 thousand rubles. depending on the region of the Russian Federation.
      Free prostheses and products are another story.
      Funeral at the expense of the state ...
      Mostly they themselves help each other.
      To sell faces at ceremonial events organized by local authorities is somehow dumb for many, "story lovers" go to the lessons of courage in schools.

      The memory is still alive while relatives, friends and relatives remember, this is the main thing. They will remind their descendants of you better than any state.
    5. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 17 March 2021 22: 10
      0
      Quote: Civil
      How conscience allows you to play patriotism

      Conscience or Power? And conscience is just a reminder to us - who we are and who we could be.
  2. WHAT IS
    WHAT IS 16 March 2021 07: 23
    +19
    in Russia they want to forget this damn Afghanistan as soon as possible.

    It depends on the city and the people. We don't have that, maybe because the city is small and everyone knows each other ...

    This is not only for Afghans - for everyone who died after the Patriotic War.
    We have not forgotten anyone and nothing is forgotten.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 16 March 2021 07: 51
      +4
      but we do not have ... and the dead both in Afghanistan and in Chechnya are enough, not even too much. I am not surprised ... what kind of power, such are the monuments ... or the absence of such.
    2. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 16 March 2021 08: 44
      +8
      I agree with you. He himself grew up in a small town with many monuments dedicated to the Second World War. But in the 90s, the participants in Afghanistan and the public decided to erect monuments to those who did not return from across the river. And without officialdom they built one in the city botanical garden.
      Now I rarely go there, but it's worth it, they say. Always well maintained. On dates with flowers ....
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      2. nikon7717
        nikon7717 17 March 2021 22: 43
        +1
        A classmate of mine who took the storm of Grozny in the Airborne Forces (injuries, awards) created a monument to the participants in "local" conflicts in a small Ural town. He found a combat infantry fighting vehicle that took part in the Chechen company, organized the delivery and installation on a pedestal. All events are taking place there now, they remember Afghanistan and Chechnya.
  3. nnm
    nnm 16 March 2021 07: 47
    +9
    Decades later: Afghanistan is not needed?

    It seems to me that the biggest mistake is in just such a formulation of the question (not counting, of course, WWII, but with respect to other local wars and conflicts). For this question should be asked to the politicians who sent the guys to fight. And the veterans themselves did not take part in resolving the issue of the beginning of conflicts, they went to fight faithful to their oath. They defended the interests of their Motherland even when it betrayed them more than once, as in Chechnya, they gave their lives even when, after returning from the war, others spat in their backs with the words "we did not send you there!" And it seems to me that it was they who kept Russia from complete disintegration in their time and understand their contribution to the fact that we now live in the country that we see around them, perhaps, only they themselves, their relatives, friends and those who are still not everything is measured in thousands of rubles.
    And it will always be convenient for politicians to blame their mistakes on people like the Airborne Troops in the Baltics, or people like Ulman.
    And they will pour slop on them until the moment when they again need to shut up their mistakes with the lives of new young guys.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 16 March 2021 09: 06
      +4
      Quote: nnm
      I think,

      but it seems to me that if we had not entered there, the heroin wave would have covered us headlong ... and the country would have simply disintegrated, not as it is now, but worse. The CIA has clearly grasped the vector, and now they are pumping money from ... out of nowhere, out of control.
    2. sgrabik
      sgrabik 16 March 2021 11: 26
      +2
      We must not forget anything, this is the history of our country, our people, it is in many ways tragic and ambiguous, no matter how certain politicians and officials look at it, the main thing is our memory of those events, of our very young guys who died defending the interests our country, eternal memory to them !!!
    3. Aag
      Aag 16 March 2021 21: 54
      0
      Now we are talking about Afghans ... Russian.
      But they were, are, from all the former Soviet republics ... Not everyone, probably, can imagine what it meant to go "at the call of the Communist Party and the Soviet Government" and return, even if alive, to, say, independent Latvia. it was!
      Glory to ALL soldiers of the Union!
      Sickening from the draped Mausoleum, loyal compatriots; sorry, vomit from many of the current order-bearers, from the sugary mines of announcers broadcasting about the next "breakthrough", or about the dying agony of the West ...
      1. Aag
        Aag 17 March 2021 10: 19
        0
        Quote: AAG
        Now we are talking about Afghans ... Russian.
        But they were, are, from all the former Soviet republics ... Not everyone, probably, can imagine what it meant to go "at the call of the Communist Party and the Soviet Government" and return, even if alive, to, say, independent Latvia. it was!
        Glory to ALL soldiers of the Union!
        Sickening from the draped Mausoleum, loyal compatriots; sorry, vomit from many of the current order-bearers, from the sugary mines of announcers broadcasting about the next "breakthrough", or about the dying agony of the West ...

        Probably, not everyone understood what order-bearers he was talking about. Let me explain: about golikovs, matveyenki, close children, individual figures of "culture" ...
      2. dauria
        dauria 17 March 2021 10: 32
        +2
        and to return, even if alive, to, say, independent Latvia.


        In years the second from the left is Captain Juozas Koyalis. An excellent officer, the kindest man. And in order to please the current politicians, should I change my attitude towards him? Fuck them all over the face.
        1. Aag
          Aag 17 March 2021 10: 39
          +1
          Quote: dauria
          and to return, even if alive, to, say, independent Latvia.


          In years the second from the left is Captain Juozas Koyalis. An excellent officer, the kindest man. And in order to please the current politicians, should I change my attitude towards him? Fuck them all over the face.

          About that and speech ...
          In the Russian Federation, the Heroes are not unambiguously referred to, but in the former allies ...
  4. Far B
    Far B 16 March 2021 08: 32
    -2
    Even in the discussion of Afghan problems, which generally still concern us
    And how are they touching us now? There are three and a half independent states between Russia and Afghanistan, this is no longer even the underbelly. Another thing is that we are still happy to invite all kinds of Dzhamshuts to work harbor - and these Dzhamshuts will bring anything with them, including ideology and drugs. Well, these are never Afghan problems, but, on the one hand, the question of the homelands (of those three and a half) of the Dzhamshuts, and on the other, our internal question: why should we call Gaster from Central Asia? So, IMHO, the problems of Afgan at the present time never concern us.
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 16 March 2021 09: 06
      +5
      Quote: Dalny V
      And how are they touching us now?

      DRUG TRAFFIC.
      1. Far B
        Far B 17 March 2021 00: 48
        +1
        To reduce drug trafficking, it is necessary to strengthen control over the Gaster-Jamshuts, who happily come to us to work from transit countries (those same three and a half independent republics of Central Asia, which I mentioned above). And they are often drug couriers. If this is not done, drug trafficking will not go anywhere. Afghan in this chain is just a starting point. Like the countries of the Golden Triangle, Colombia and other Bolivia.
  5. Million
    Million 16 March 2021 08: 50
    +7
    You can’t say more precisely
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 16 March 2021 09: 08
      +3
      Quote: Million
      You can’t say more precisely

      through the cinema only and you can speak ... pluses ... a lot.
  6. Woodman
    Woodman 16 March 2021 09: 03
    +3
    Big country - big interests. Our fighters have participated in dozens of conflicts in dozens of different countries on all continents. Afghan and Chechnya are only the most famous and large-scale ones. The question of the state's attitude to veterans can be raised in relation to each of the conflicts. Here is a letter from the mother. Yes, it hurts. But what exactly is needed? To erect monuments? So they are. Or put them on every conflict in every settlement? So, where sane people are in power, they find an opportunity to erect, if not a monument, then at least a bust or a memorial sign. Veterans are not invited to the events? My name is. But not all veterans love publicity. Especially young veterans.
    So it turns out that the maximum that veterans need from the state is veteran payments. And the state pays them. To what extent is another question. Respect is still needed. Not monuments. And respect for veterans is a matter of education. The state can still contribute to education.
    And from the point of view of a mother who has lost her son, no manifestations of memory and respect for her son will return her and the pain of loss will not be removed ...
    1. Aerodrome
      Aerodrome 16 March 2021 09: 25
      +4
      Big country - big interests. Our fighters have participated in dozens of conflicts in dozens of different countries on all continents. Afghan and Chechnya are only the most famous and large-scale ones.
      a classmate in Ethiopia served a term ... I think the movie "equator", based on his stories, was filmed ... wassat similar to the details of the infection ... to the question of how with dreadlocks drove said - a member paid off ... His own ??? - more .. rhinoceroses, dried ... we didn't need to drink any further, we were already lying around ... wassat
  7. mister-red
    mister-red 16 March 2021 11: 17
    +9
    Memorial complex in memory of the soldiers who died in the Afghan war, or simply "Afghan Park", Chisinau.





  8. Glory1974
    Glory1974 16 March 2021 12: 39
    +3
    Unfortunately, we do not have laws protecting people who, at the risk of their lives, defended their homeland.
    In a normal state, defenders are respected by society and a number of benefits and privileges.
    For some reason, the term of service in the war is not counted in the retirement experience, the law banning civil service positions for those who did not serve in the army was canceled, and those who were injured in the war are paid a penny.
    Therefore, the authorities are silent about the veterans of wars and local conflicts. Because in fact it turns out that all veterans are fools, if you go to fight for a great life and have nothing for it.
    Therefore, young people do not go to the army, because you get nothing in return.
    In unfortunate Ukraine, Afghan soldiers have the right to retire - we do not have it in Russia.
    The conscripts who fought in Chechnya were promised a length of service 1 day for 3 to their pension, and of course they were deceived. The boys will not receive anything upon retirement.
    This is the attitude of the government towards the people who fought for the country. Therefore, only friends, colleagues and relatives keep the memory of them.
  9. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 16 March 2021 12: 53
    +2
    I think that if some peoples have a mess, this is THEIR problem. If people in Afghanistan do not want to live like the people of the 21st century - this is their right, let them live as they want. We ourselves have enough territory and problems to do all this headlong for a good couple of hundred years. The USSR wasted a lot of forces and resources "like helping" some other states, and eventually collapsed on its own - we already had to help, "Bush's legs" and margarine - this is the shitty end of a stupid story, you need to think about yourself and your problems, the future is built on this. Otherwise, we are marking time.
    The heroism of the past must certainly be honored, but I believe that we have already fought a lot in a foreign land and for other people's problems - quite this strange line, which did not lead us to success.
  10. BAI
    BAI 16 March 2021 12: 59
    +3
    There are a lot of them, but mainly from generals or generals, then senior officers, officers, and about all the other border fighters, survivors and dead, only a little bit, separate scanty blotches.

    This is a classic of the genre. The higher in position, the more memoirs. From the rank and file, as a rule, only award sheets remain.
  11. Mikhail3
    Mikhail3 16 March 2021 16: 44
    +3
    Afghanistan was not needed. Our soldiers fought there because an open war with the United States was impossible. Just the place of one of the exploits of the Russian soldier. How many of them are there on the planet ...
    To our greatest regret, many organizations of Afghan warriors have stained themselves with robbery, numerous murders and other criminal "exploits", which proves the simple truth - moments are needed for a heroic act. For an honest life it will take the whole life.
    Russia is obliged to remember the fallen soldiers, and it remembers. The same "Afghans" are entitled to considerable privileges, which they willingly use.
    However, there is nothing to celebrate here. And it was not Russia that stained the "Afghan" banners. Alas...
  12. dgonni
    dgonni 16 March 2021 19: 00
    +1
    In 1986 I entered the Red Corps in Kiev. And there was a senior sergeant with me on the same specialty. And he showed me the book. About his company platoon and about him there was!
    And the worst thing! These are his words. I flew away and the company commander and platoon commander blew up on a sly mine! They were sappers. Who in Afghanistan understood what they were talking about!
    He entered! To the international route. I went to the army.
    Such.
    Kiev. Heat. And he is in a sweater and constantly tugs at his right shoulder. I asked when they drank beer. What is so?
    And he . Compared to Afgan, I'm cold. And there is not enough machine gun.
    Then he got into a similar situation for half a year. I agree. The lack of weapons is very annoying.
    Purely psychologically.
    Though cool and peaceful life!
  13. willik
    willik 17 March 2021 12: 18
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    Many of you followed the events in Belarus. Many have a negative opinion about the current leadership of the country, according to reports in the opposition. But, I will express my point of view, the main thing in the past events and most importantly, Belarus did not give an opportunity to come to power for nationalists, collaborators, Russophobes, radicals of various stripes. I tried to throw off the link to one article, it clearly shows how those who are rushing to power with the sponsorship of Western governments relate to our and our common history, how they propagandize and what values ​​of our youth, but the VO did not pass it and they gave me penalty points. Read the author's zen www www on Yandex, the channel for the State is offensive, the article Substitution of values.
  14. ironic
    ironic 18 March 2021 13: 56
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    A full-fledged audit of the Soviet Union's losses in the Afghan war will never be carried out, because you will have to tell the truth about how many soldiers died on the one hand and how many Afghans were killed on the other. The West will never seriously deny the already adopted statistics at the official levels, because then they will have to tell the truth about what the West itself had to fight with and how much he paid for it and how much he put on it.
  15. tank64rus
    tank64rus 20 March 2021 21: 15
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    Eternal Memory and Glory to all of them! And to those who say that he did not send them and tries to erase their feat from the Memory of the People, contempt and shame.
  16. Evgeny Seleznev
    Evgeny Seleznev April 5 2021 22: 05
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    And why is it necessary. Afghan, Chechnya, Syria. It's a pity the guys, but not the creatures at the helm who allowed this.