Kiev intends to accuse ex-deputies of treason for ratifying the treaty on the Russian fleet in Crimea

Over the Ukrainian deputies of the Verkhovna Rada, who voted in 2010 for the ratification of the Kharkiv agreements on finding the Russian fleet in Crimea, the threat of charges of high treason loomed. This was stated by the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine Oleksiy Danilov.

The SBU, on behalf of the NSDC, began checking the clarification of the circumstances of the extension of the agreement with Russia on the presence of the Russian fleet in Crimea. In Kiev, they intend to find out how the Rada deputies in 2010 voted to ratify the treaty and charge them with treason "if necessary."

There is an instruction from the SBU to find out the circumstances of how these 236 deputies voted on this issue. (...) If the SBU considers it necessary, then it must initiate under Article 111 of the Criminal Code - on high treason - against the persons concerned

- Danilov said.

The NSDC stressed that the vote on the ratification of the Kharkiv agreements took place on April 27, 2010 in a "very short time", which, in turn, led to the loss of Crimea and the conflict in Donbass.

As a reminder, on April 21, 2010 in Kharkov, agreements were signed on the conditions for the stay of the Russian Black Sea Fleet in Crimea for a period of 25 years in exchange for a reduction in the price of Russian gas. On April 27, 2010, the Verkhovna Rada ratified the treaty.

In 2014, Russian President Vladimir Putin signed a law terminating agreements with Ukraine on the Black Sea Fleet as Crimea returned to Russia.

Comments

[Pessimist22]

236 deputies for the zone for 15 years, okay, well done, non-brothers

[mitroha]

Come on, beat your own, so that strangers are afraid.

The NSDC stressed that the vote on the ratification of the Kharkiv agreements took place on April 27, 2010 in a "very short time", which, in turn, led to the loss of Crimea and the conflict in Donbass.

The loss of Crimea and the conflict in Donbass resulted from the violent seizure of power by the Nazi bastard and the murder of its own citizens. they are afraid, you bastards, everyone is looking for someone to translate the arrows

[Egoza]

Quote: Mitroha

everyone is looking for someone to translate the arrows

And there is no need to search! And why only ex-deputies? It was Julia, the beautiful white swan, who floated into the office of the GDP, Julia signed the contract. For which she was then put in a XNUMX-room cell.
Py.Sy. There, our prisons will be privatized, they will make them "more comfortable". Interestingly, Julia got herself?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Egoza

It was Julia, the beautiful white swan, who floated into the GDP cabinet, Julia signed the contract. For which she was then put in a XNUMX-room cell.

You're wrong.
Yulka "swam" on another issue - gas, which was "closer to her body", more precisely to the point (a businesswoman is a business woman), for which she later "quartered" in a 3-room cell.

[sniperino]

Quote: Egoza

Julia got herself?

While she is at large, she will be renting.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

There is a wonderful, accurate saying: "Fools are foolish toil." This is exactly about the current ukrovlast. What else can you expect from the idiots who "tried" Lenin and Stalin?

[Insurgent]

Kiev intends to accuse ex-deputies of treason for ratifying the treaty on the Russian fleet in Crimea

So ? "Witch-hunt" ? well ... try

Only as if in this case, "by chance" did not find out some circumstances ( ) in view of which, some of the then "ex-parliamentarians-zradniki" involved in "zrada" will be close to Poroshenko, Tymoshenko and so on, according to the list ...

[NDR-791]

Quote: Insurgent

So ? "Witch-hunt" ? Well ... try

Rostov is not rubber Although half of them are already here. Everything that has passed us on TV teaches us

[Egoza]

Quote: Mitroha

Come on, beat your own, so that strangers are afraid.

Yes, just remove the competitors, Julia and Co. Well, supporters then. And that in fact the new Maidan and new elections smelled. We got ahead of ourselves, however!

[figwam]

Quote: Mitroha

The loss of Crimea and the conflict in Donbass resulted from the violent seizure of power by the Nazi bastard and the murder of its own citizens.

This pro-Western junta should be judged.

[nnm]

Well done, then they are great. But the criminals should be in prison according to the law, and not according to political games. Otherwise, today you will put them in jail, tomorrow the power will change and you will already be in jail. In fact, everything is much simpler. Zelensky got a taste of power and is eager with all his might for a second term. And in the list of these deputies there are people like Akhmetov, Tymoshenko and so on. Therefore, this petty Bonaparte is trying to clean up the political field from competitors. Closing channels unlawfully, closing parties without reason, initiating illegal criminal cases, flirting with neo-Nazis. But he does not understand that it will only cause rejection in society, who showed 73% of the votes that this is not their course. The demand in society for radical changes in the country's course will not go anywhere. And a new politician will come, who will completely sweep Zelensky with the same 73% of the vote. And then there is a great chance that the clown will already be sitting with his entire team.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: nnm

Well done, then they are great. But the criminals should be in prison according to the law, and not according to political games.

What law can be a "404", there is only one law "I am in power, I have to judge."

[nnm]

That's for sure! Zelensky surpassed even Franco or Mussolini with the phrase "Friends - everything, enemies - the law" and his enemies (who actually brought him to power) now cannot even count on the law. Sheer legal chaos.

[alexmach]

A very simple law. Deputies, they generally have immunity, well, at least in 2010 they did. They cannot be prosecuted for their professional activities. Now immunity seems to have been canceled, they can be prosecuted in criminal cases ... but for professional activity, for voting, for a political position, it is still impossible ... well, if it is according to the law.

[Glory to Berkut]

It is not Zelensky who is torn, but his master. Zelenskiy has no leverage, balance or authority. But on the other hand, such an impudent sweep suggests that opposition to the current regime is growing and poses a serious danger.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Pessimist22

236 deputies for the zone for 15 years, okay, well done, non-brothers

So these boobies from the SBU will get to Bohdan Khmelnitsky. Togo immediately to be shot.

[2112vda]

It seems that my family shouldn't go into (on) Ukraine at all then. If Bogdan Khmelnitsky will be registered in the zradniki, then my ancestors, who were included in the military sergeant major, are also zradniki. Council of the SBU, you need to dig deeper and wider, so many enemies can be dug up both in Ukraine and in Russia and Belarus.

[Looking for]

and confirmation of this is ?? !! Or are you an ordinary balabol bouncer?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Piramidon

So these boobies from the SBU will get to Bohdan Khmelnitsky. Togo immediately to be shot

I thought the same thing. There is also Khrushchev 1 secretary of the Central Committee of the AUCPB of the Ukrainian SSR, and all the secretaries up to the party organizer of the collective farm. Everything can be in this "404" territorial entity, and there is no need to be surprised.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

all secretaries to the party organizer of the collective farm

... but what about the shock workers of communist labor ... here's the fun ... so you can go out on yourself

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

... but what about the shock workers of communist labor ... here is the zrada ... so you can go out on yourself

They do not classify themselves as loved ones. They, as Kravchuk said, "We were not communists, we were harming the Communist Party with our activities."

[Crimean partisan 1974]

"We were not communists, we were harming the Communist Party with our activities."

........ just like the shtirlits of the writer Semyonov .... maybe in the 90s it was. and before that, from the Ukrainian SSR, the filling of the USSR treasury was the second in scale, and from this treasury half of the world fed all sorts of Papuans of the socialist and communist persuasion ... well, yes, in the lawlessness of oneself beloved, it would be a sin to count more others will not understand

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

Well, yes, in the lawlessness of a loved one, it is a sin to count more others will not understand

Well, who of them admits that they worked for the USSR?

[Crimean partisan 1974]

Well, who of them admits that they worked for the USSR?

..... pralna, I will add more ... these same and Ukraine turned into vnau ... but who will admit it .... and I got the impression that the clown was put in order to finally solve the Ukrainian question ... . well, let's see how it will be in August with the beginning of the privatization of land in vnau by foreigners

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Piramidon

So these boobies from the SBU will get to Bohdan Khmelnitsky.

So after all, there was already a claim to Mongolia. Someone from the Ukrainian government tried to raise the issue of compensation for the period of the Mongol Tatar yoke. Mongolia replied that they did not object in principle, but would like to first receive lists with the names of the victims, what exactly was taken from them, and so on.

[210ox]

Quite true. Only for another article. They stupidly surrendered the territory to the Nazis and zashtatniks. That is, they committed high treason. For life them. And Yanukovych to them in the bargain.

[Revolver]

Quote: Pessimist22

236 deputies for the zone for 15 years, okay, well done, non-brothers

Class! And the next squad is glad to transplant the current ones. For what? As the saying goes, "if only a good person were, but there would be an article." Etc. And this next revelation of zrada will also be declared a great change. But how would it be more correct to say in the sovereign move, "zradzhenna peremoga", why "zrada is overridden"?

[Bad_gr]

While Russia was paying good money for the lease of the base, it was a good deal and the deputies were great. The cash flow has stopped - now it's treason.

[atos_kin]

It is also necessary to anathematize Bogdan Khmelnitsky for going to Russia.

[Egoza]

Quote: atos_kin

It is also necessary to anathematize Bogdan Khmelnitsky for going to Russia.

Yes, the Poles come to Kiev, so every time they say that it would be nice to demolish this monument.

[NDR-791]

Quote: Egoza

Yes, the Poles come to Kiev, so every time they say that it would be nice to demolish this monument.

We got to Kyiv. I live on Bohdan Khmelnitsky Street and there is a monument. Center of Siberia, let them try

[Rusticolus]

We got to Kyiv. I live on Bohdan Khmelnitsky Street and there is a monument. Center of Siberia, let them try

It is 3 times farther from this monument and this street to Moscow than from Moscow to Kiev. So it turns out that the people of Kiev are three times more Muscovites than the inhabitants of this street. Therefore, no one will come to try, they will break the template along the way and the roof will leave completely.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Egoza

Yes, the Poles come to Kiev, so every time they say that it would be nice to demolish this monument.

Under the Nazis, during the occupation, the monument survived, but under these ...
After all, they can demolish

True, even at the dawn of Soviet power, the appearance of the monument was somewhat changed, and this is a little-known fact from the history of the Ukrainian SSR and the outskirts.
The inscription, "not politically correct" at that time, was removed from the pedestal - "about indivisible Russia" ...

This is how the monument looks now. The inscription is missing.

[Egoza]

Quote: Insurgent

The inscription, "not politically correct" at that time, was removed from the pedestal - "about indivisible Russia

The most interesting thing is that the turn of the monument became like this, because it was impossible to put a horse with a croup to the churches, and there were already 3 of them (the closest ones) at that time! BUT later, already under Soviet rule, a railway bridge was built, and it is to this bridge that Khmelnitsky's mace points! A BRIDGE LEADS TO RUSSIA !!!

[Insurgent]

Quote: Egoza

later, already under Soviet rule, a railway bridge was built, and it is to this bridge that Khmelnitsky's mace points! A BRIDGE LEADS TO RUSSIA !!!

The bridge and everything else was later, and the monument itself, as conceived by the sculptor in collaboration with architects, initially pointed with a mace in the direction of Russia.

Symbolism

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Insurgent

initially, as planned, pointed with a mace in the direction of Russia.

It can be interpreted that Khmelnitsky was still threatening Russia with a mace. That is, the monument also corresponds to the current mood in Ukraine.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Bad_gr

It can be interpreted that Khmelnitsky was still threatening Russia with a mace. That is, the monument also corresponds to the current mood in Ukraine.

I will not be surprised if I find out what exactly is the case, svidomo guides explain this gesture to foreign tourists ...

[Insurgent]

And if somehow we are talking about monuments, about the attitude towards them, about the historical memory of the people, then here is a fresh example from Vukriya. In the very stronghold of nationalists, in the most vukropatriotic Ivano-Frankivsk - unknown people turned their heads at the monument to the Great Kobzar ...
All in all, the monument "did not live" for several days before the celebrations of the poet's birthday on March 9th.

And in the "recouped Donetsk", the monument to T. Shevchenko is suddenly found safe and sound on the boulevard of the same name, against the background of the former Regional State Administration, now the government complex of the DPR ...

[Alex Justice]

Looks cool without a head. I would leave it like that.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Alex Justice

Looks cool without a head. I would leave it like that.

All Outskirts long headless, but alas, nothing "cool" in this.

[Avior]

The inscription, "not politically correct" at that time, was removed from the pedestal - "about indivisible Russia" ...

"For Bogdan Khmelnitsky, United Indivisible Russia"

Still, the Bolsheviks left such an inscription.
“For a Great, United and Indivisible Russia” is the main motto of the White movement.
There was also a second

"We will make him under the king of the East, Orthodox"

The Bolsheviks also did not like the tsar, they removed it.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Egoza

Yes, the Poles come to Kiev, so every time they say that it would be nice to demolish this monument.

For the Poles, he is a traitor. A native of a gentry family, a subject of the Polish king, betrayed him and swore allegiance to the Russian tsar.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: atos_kin

It is also necessary to anathematize Bogdan Khmelnitsky for going to Russia.

Exhume the body, cremate, and shoot ashes in the direction of Moscow! And that's all - these manipulations must be performed in the "jumping" mode and with crochet hooks on your head!
However, at least the son of Bohdan Khmelnitsky - Yuri, nosebleeds should be awarded with the "Hero of Ukraine Medal" posthumously and start painting the picture "Banderlog are printing SMS to Putin."

[Dimka75]

Exhume the body, cremate, and shoot ashes in the direction of Moscow! And that's all - these manipulations must be performed in the "jumping" mode and with crochet hooks on your head!

And I thought you were a bit of a historian. But the topic about dill is forgivable. Here are emotions, pots, jumps, not a head. The burial place of Khmelnitsky has not survived.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

I know. Sketched out a bunch of absurdities !!!
Dmitry, I'm still a little "lawyer". I am simply touched by the procedure for identifying the guilty persons out of two and a half hundred deputies of the Rada of Ukraine who understood the decision by secret ballot !!! However, following their logic, at least it is necessary to bring to criminal responsibility citizens who similarly elected deputies. Although there is nothing to be petty about, in this way you can reach the Belovezhskaya agreements and realize that they are not legitimate.

[Avior]

who understood the decision by secret ballot !!!

it was not secret, roll-call

[Insurgent]

Quote: Dimka75

The burial place of Khmelnitsky has not survived.

More on this below.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Kote pane Kohanka

Exhume the body, cremate, and shoot ashes in the direction of Moscow!

The skakuas would also know the reliable burial place of the hetman ...

Until now, no one knows for sure where the grave (crypt, sarcophagus?) Of Bohdan Zinovy ​​Khmelnytsky is actually.

According to the historian M. Hrushevsky, the hetman's body was kept in the ancestral crypt of the Mikhailovskaya Church in Subotov, and a "double-deceased" was laid in the Elias Church. According to another assumption, after the Polish raid in 1664, the remains of the hetman, who had been dishonored by order of Hetman Stefan Chernetsky, were collected and buried by the peasants in the churchyard or cemetery at the Ilyinsky Church.

And only in 2019 there were reports that the real burial of Bohdan Khmelnytsky Allegedly (the application needs documentary evidence) were found in the Cherkasy region.
Archaeologists, geophysicists and historians, as well as renowned independent experts, took part in a scientific expedition to find Khmelnitsky's grave.
The place for the search was the St. Elias family tomb church in Subotov. According to the official version, it was there that Bohdan Khmelnytsky and his son Timosh were buried.

[Thrifty]

In vukriy, treason is impossible, there is no state as such, Soviet territories did not form into a single pseudo-Ukrainian state! !!

[Hog]

Ouroboros in action, cleansing for the sake of cleansing)))

[rocket757]

Kiev intends to accuse ex-deputies of treason for ratifying the treaty on the Russian fleet in Crimea

Oh, how familiar !!! Blame everything on anyone, blame more, lie more, then their shoals / crimes can be hidden, blurred ... at least for a while, while they blame for ... wherever you go with your babosiks!
Proven tactic for skakuas / potheads.

[cniza]

The track is proven, everyone knows ...
Good time!

[rocket757]

Welcome
The method is older than the old one, but it works for a certain part of the population that does not bother with mental activity.

[cniza]

Only this path - always leads to the door of the one who started it ...

[rocket757]

The one who starts, may think differently, or may simply act more cunningly ...
time will tell who is the main cunning in that "zoo".

[cniza]

There everyone is trying to outwit everyone, and the owner is watching and making fun ...

[rocket757]

The owner will make fun until everything is done according to his plan ... if suddenly !!! everyone who rustles there will be no laughing matter.

[cniza]

Naturally, a step to the left, a step to the right of the intended target, will be stopped on the spot ...

[rocket757]

Some, smarter, turn on the "fool" and roll off, early, away ... all the bumps who are late!

[cniza]

There are not some, there is already a massive outflow of the population, and the most able-bodied ...

[rocket757]

The population, this is FISH, will look for depth and food ... there managers, leaders from the very top know how to roll off in time and they laid straw for themselves, in some places.

[cniza]

Yes, these laws have always been in effect and will continue to operate, managers will soon be left alone with themselves ...

[rocket757]

they are there and do not grieve once again, and then we do not suffer on this topic at all ... for now, at least.

[cniza]

Yes, and the future too, why do we have to worry about our worries ...

[rocket757]

Well, yes, we solve our problems and this is for a long time!

[Viktor Sergeev]

Interestingly, and who thus want to remove from politics? Don't they want to blame Kravchuk because of the first contract on the fleet? And these people run into Yanek for the case against Tymoshenko.

[Nadrub]

Also put on the wanted list Catherine II, it all started with her, there is a photo of her ... to declare to Interpol, maybe she is hiding somewhere in Switzerland, and the Americans will be brought up with sanctions :)

[Insurgent]

Quote: Truth

Also put on the wanted list Catherine II, it all started with her, there is a photo of her ... to declare to Interpol, maybe she is hiding somewhere in Switzerland, and the Americans will be brought up with sanctions :)

Shaw look for her? Here stands the Great Empress (on Catherine Square !!!), not hiding in Odessa, unbroken by the Bandera Sabbath.
The Svidomites are very itching to deal with the monument, but the jackals are afraid ...

[ANB]

... The Svidomites are very itching to deal with the monument, but the jackals are afraid ...

Angela can get upset there too.

[Herman 4223]

In general, this is called political repression.

[Ros 56]

Come on, you invent, well, what kind of political repression in an insane asylum?

[Herman 4223]

And what if the doctors in this house were deprived of their power?

[Tagan]

I wonder if the vote for ratification was secret?

[Avior]

no, by name

[Ros 56]

What a long open day in the Ukrainian madhouse. And the most interesting thing is that the violent people are going to judge the nursing staff. Hands will not reach the elders, they are still far away, they are already overseas.

[Dimide]

Simply and tastefully "hung by the nostrils" on criminal cases, now they will most likely "obedient".
Danilov also stated that: - "All cases of illegal privatization of defense enterprises included in the" red list "will be investigated."
Motor Sich will still be nationalized, with the return of the invested capital, if only the money entered through Ukrainian banks "on white", If through "Verginian offshores", then there will be no compensation.
By the way, Boguslav is also on the execution list.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Dimid

By the way, Boguslav is also on the execution list.

Who is to blame for you now that you, not on a par with the rosumu, with your Maidan and chauvinist-nationalism have stirred up so much that you found yourself in a state of war against all against all?

You are great! 30 years of "Nezalezhnosti" were well spent

[Dimide]

You don't need to write in order to write something. Essentially, is there anything?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Dimid

You don't need to write in order to write something. Essentially, is there anything?

Essentially you have to answer at the expense of how and why the wukriy and you in Aleksandrovsk came to the point that a witch hunt was announced with "firing list", which YOU, by the way, did not indicate with quotes ...
And this alone says a lot

[Dimide]

Well, I absolutely don't owe you anything. What medications are you taking? Where does the obsession about Aleksandrovsk come from? I live near the Dnieper, formerly Dnipropetrovsk.
Smiled at the expense of quotation marks, you still have a perverted mind, ascribe to others your manias

[Insurgent]

Quote: Dimid

Where does the obsession about Aleksandrovsk come from? I live near the Dnieper, formerly Dnipropetrovsk.

I have other data - about Zaporozhye (region).

[Dimide]

Zaporizhzhia? Zer gut
I will not dissuade you.

[Avior]

And for what?

President of the enterprise Vyacheslav Boguslaev, speaking in front of parliament members, accused Chinese investors of violating investment obligations, but urged to negotiate with them and leave them a 35% stake, and transfer control over the enterprise to the state.

State reasoning!

[Alex_Bora]

That is, they sold 56% of the shares to the Chinese, and only 35% will be counted.
Well, what ... "argues like a state"

[Avior]

The Chinese transferred part of the shares to Yaroslavsky
and actually I put a smiley.

[syndicalist]

Regardless of the Rada and Crimea, such situations will always arise in any country. Any "most honest" MPs inevitably start acting out of personal interests. This is a characteristic of representative democracy. Only direct popular vote is able to ensure the absolute legitimacy of the decisions taken.

[Yuriy71]

Only the Absolute Monarchy, as the most "time-tested" form of government - "is able to ensure the absolute legitimacy of the decisions made."

[syndicalist]

Are monarchs never wrong? Or did history know of mad monarchs, maniac monarchs, alcoholics, or, as it is now in Russia, a thief monarch?

[cniza]

There is an instruction from the SBU to find out the circumstances of how these 236 deputies voted on this issue. (...) If the SBU considers it necessary, then it must initiate under Article 111 of the Criminal Code - on high treason - against the persons concerned

The flywheel spins ...

[Yuriy71]

How Phantom Pains torment them!

[Paphnutius the Unforgettable]

Well, this is just the beginning! It's only the beginning! The process of self-destruction of "young democracy" is gaining momentum!

[Oleg Aviator]

Well then, these clowns should be blamed for this. A country with external control is not correct to call an independent country)

[Trapp1st]

We look forward to hearing the case of Andrei Bogolyubsky

[Avior]

Who then voted for

160 deputies from the Party of Regions (the total number of members of the faction is 161);
27 deputies from the Communist Party of Ukraine (all members);
20 deputies from the Lytvyn bloc faction (the entire composition);
13 non-factional deputies (the total number of non-factional - 16);
9 deputies from the Yulia Tymoshenko bloc faction (the total number of faction members is 154);
7 deputies from the Our Ukraine - People's Self-Defense faction (the total number of faction members is 72).

Interestingly, is there any of them in the current composition of the Rada?

[Growlers]

These people run the country ... ... They themselves are not able to do anything except to steal and carry nonsense And they condemn everyone and everything

[Tagan]

Quote: Avior

no, by name

Then it is worse for those who voted. The Khuntai can stupidly hang out the lists like a red rag for the Natsiks without any legal proceedings.
But there is a thorny point. These persons may also be in the camp of Gidnyuk.

[Tagan]

Quote: Avior

Interestingly, is there any of them in the current composition of the Rada?

That's right, this is the most entertaining.

[musorg]

There is no work to do, so everyone is looking for where to steal and who to rob, freeloaders.

[denk20]

The witch hunt has been declared open.

[iouris]

You are going the right way, Natsik. There you go.

[Metallurg_2]

We ought to judge Bohdan Khmelnitsky and all the participants of the Pereyaslavl Rada.
Considering the Kiev theater of the absurd, it won't be long to wait.