Money allowance in the Polish army: specific figures

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Poland has always belonged to those countries in which the army plays an important role in the life of the state. Taking into account the specifics of the political course of Warsaw, which positions itself as the extreme eastern frontier of NATO, modern Poland also pays very serious attention to the armed forces, and this applies not only to equipping the army, but also to the material support of military personnel.

In 2010, Poland officially completed the transition to a fully contractual system of manning the country's armed forces. According to English-speaking sources, in 2021, the number of Polish armed forces was 114 thousand 50 people, including 61200 people in the ground forces, 16500 in the air force, 7000 in navy, 3500 people in special forces, 21700 people in the territorial defense forces. All servicemen of the Polish army are contract soldiers, that is, they receive a monetary reward for their service.



Let's digress a little and recall that the currency in Poland is the zloty. As of March 5, 2021, 1 Polish zloty is valued at 19 rubles 50 kopecks. Knowledge of the course is necessary in this case to compare the monetary allowance of Polish military personnel in comparison with Russian salaries and prices.

How the soldiers' salaries are calculated and how much they receive, specific figures


The salary of a soldier in Poland consists of a basic salary by position and rank, plus a bonus for length of service. After 3 years of service, the salary increases by 3% of the basic salary, after 6 years - by 6%, and so on up to 15% of the basic salary after 15 years of service. A serviceman who has served in the army for 35 years receives 35% of the basic salary for length of service.

A private soldier - a contract soldier of the Polish army for 1 and 2 years of service receives 4 zlotys, for 110 years of service - 3 + 4 zlotys (110% of the basic salary). Private 123,30st class who served 3 years in the army - PLN 1 + 5 (4% of the basic salary).

The salary of a corporal (junior sergeant) is PLN 4 plus 660 (279,60% of the basic salary) after 6 years of military service. A sergeant in the Polish army receives PLN 6, plus PLN 4970 as a bonus for seniority with 596,40 years of service. The salary of a cornet - a warrant officer - is 12 zlotys plus 5 zlotys as an additional payment for length of service with 330 years of service.


Salary of officers and generals


Now about the salaries of the officers. The most junior officer rank in the Polish army is second lieutenant, similar to the Russian lieutenant. The salary of a second lieutenant - a platoon commander of the Polish army is 5 zlotys (about 790 thousand rubles), if he served, for example, 117 years in this rank, then another 3 zlotys is added - 173,70% of the basic salary. The lieutenant (senior lieutenant) receives PLN 3 + PLN 5 allowances for 910 years of service or more.

The captain of the Polish army in the position of company commander can count on 6 zlotys + 120 zlotys bonus for 734,40 years of service. The salary of a major - the head of service of a military unit - is 12 zlotys + 6 zlotys for 710 years of service. A lieutenant colonel in the position of battalion commander receives 1 zlotys + 006,50 zloty bonuses for 15 years of service. The salary of a colonel - a regiment commander - is 7 zlotys (about 170 thousand rubles) + 1218,90 zloty allowances for 17 years of service.

Even more impressive are the salaries of the highest command personnel of the Polish army. A brigadier general can count on 10480 zlotys (205 thousand rubles) + 2620 zloty increments for 25 years of service, a major general (division commander) - 12 zlotys + 230 zloty increments for 3057,50 years of service. The salary of a lieutenant general who has served 25 years in the armed forces is PLN 25 + PLN 14 allowances, and those who have served 580 years - PLN 3645 + PLN 30 allowances.

How much is it in rubles


It is not difficult to calculate the Russian equivalent of the salary of the Polish military. For example, a private who has just started serving in the army receives 4110 zlotys, which is equal to 80 rubles. A corporal who has served in the army for 145 years will receive 8 zlotys, which is equal to 4939,60 96 rubles.

A sergeant major in the position of platoon commander or assistant company commander, who has served for 12 years, can count on 5 zlotys, that is, 969,60 rubles.

The salary of a second lieutenant (lieutenant) who has served 3 years will be 5 zlotys, that is, 963,70 rubles. The captain, the company commander, will receive 116 rubles in the Russian equivalent, and the lieutenant colonel, the battalion commander, will receive 292 rubles. The salary of a colonel, a regiment commander, in the Russian equivalent, will amount to 133 rubles.

It is worth noting that there are various additional payments, including a vacation bonus of at least 35% of the lowest salary of a soldier, and for each family member - a spouse (or a spouse, if a soldier is a woman) and minor children.

Thus, we can conclude that, in general, Polish soldiers are not offended by money. They receive more than in Russia (with some exceptions), as well as more than military personnel in neighboring countries - the Baltic republics, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, not to mention Ukraine and Belarus. But the amount of money allowance is one thing, the prestige of the profession is another thing. Today in Poland itself the alarm is sounding due to the fact that young people are extremely reluctant to choose a military career, believing that "in civilian life" with a good education there are more prospects.
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  1. -17
    5 March 2021 14: 21
    The Polish servicemen are not offended by the money, their “national pride” has been pinched and the dream “from moz to mozha” has been taken away laughing
    The transition to a fully contracted Army ... in my opinion is not good, but this is their own business ... It is easier for ours!
    1. +41
      5 March 2021 14: 45
      The transition to a fully contract Army ... in my opinion is not good, but this is their own business ...

      The question of the transition to a professional army will become more acute, the more the Armed Forces are filled with sophisticated modern equipment. For example, I would have transferred the entire fleet to a contract back in the 90s, instead of reducing officers and midshipmen to create entire crews from them. The number of breakdowns would have decreased significantly, and the 956 destroyers would still be running. The whole process of their failure began with the transfer of the fleet from 3 years of service to two. And the current one-year-olds on the ship I would not be afraid to keep only in the boatswain's command.
      Many people have pinched national pride. We have something not pinched?
      1. +4
        5 March 2021 15: 00
        I agree. Although he himself was in the 7th training detachment of Oktyabrsky, out of two years, a little more than 6 months. But the main thing was taught on the ship.
        3 days to explore all rooms.
        3 days to thoroughly know the route of exit from any room.
        3 days for the cook to become the best friend, it's a pity, really. that he had to adjust his face later ...
        1. -1
          7 March 2021 00: 00
          "he had to adjust his face in the future"
          The absence of restraining centers betrays you as a southerner.
          Male strength - in the ability to control oneself in any
          situations. Not biting / scratching.
          1. +1
            10 March 2021 11: 06
            People always smiled at me saying "Hit me, just take off my glasses so they don't break" ...
            Yes, a Russian from Donetsk can only be considered a southern guy, well, I don’t know among the residents of Murmansk)
      2. -2
        5 March 2021 15: 11
        [quote = Galleon] [quote] The question of the transition to a professional army will become more acute, the more the Armed Forces will be filled with sophisticated modern technology. The fleet, for example, I would have transferred everything to the contract back in the 90s ... [/ quote]
        I absolutely agree.
        However, two other problems will arise sharply: the greater amount of training for junior officers and the material support of these professionals.
        A ship with a crew of only officers and warrant officers will turn out to be super active, but also super expensive.
        An officer, no matter what they say, must have a very good salary, many times greater than that of civilian specialists of a similar level.
        And as for complex technology, young people perfectly master phones / computers on their own ...
        For such a huge country like ours, one cannot do without being drafted into the army. But 12 months is frankly not enough. Someday you will have to switch to: 24 months in the Land Forces, 36 - in the Navy, Aerospace Forces and Strategic Missile Forces.
        1. +7
          5 March 2021 16: 31
          Quote: Doccor18
          Strategic Missile Forces

          In the Strategic Missile Forces, a conscript is not allowed close to military equipment, except that he charges the batteries, and then, today it is unlikely, well, maybe he is still pulling the wire on the fence.
          1. +1
            5 March 2021 18: 50
            Quote: bistrov.
            Quote: Doccor18
            Strategic Missile Forces

            In the Strategic Missile Forces, a conscript is not allowed close to military equipment, except that he charges the batteries, and then, today it is unlikely, well, maybe he is still pulling the wire on the fence.

            Of course.
            So in the VKS, not everyone at the wheel of the TU-160 is sitting ...
            A colleague served in the VCh, which was part of the Strategic Missile Forces. For two years I have not seen a single rocket, but nevertheless ...
          2. 0
            10 March 2021 11: 58
            Lies: both mechanics and radio operators, and the crews of all mobile defense equipment are conscripts.
        2. -1
          5 March 2021 23: 12
          An officer, no matter what they say, must have a very good salary, many times greater than that of civilian specialists of a similar level.


          In the United States, a military pilot is 23 thousand dollars a year. The level of the deputy commander is around 35 thousand per year. Certified nurse - from $ 82 thousand per year. There they are dragged into the army with the social guarantees of the state. But wages are miserable compared to a citizen.
          1. +1
            6 March 2021 15: 08
            By the age of 11, US Air Force pilots receive an average salary of $ 90 a year.
            https://lenta.ru/news/2013/07/24/pilots/
            This is about three times less than in the commercial sector, but nevertheless ...
            1. 0
              6 March 2021 15: 18
              "In the US Air Force, the E-1 Private earns $ 18 a year, the E-802, a flight crew member, earns $ 2, and the E-21, a First Class pilot, earns between $ 078 and $ 3. depending on the length of service. "
              This is from here. https://www.forumdaily.com/skolko-v-ssha-platyat-voennym/ The voice of Russian-speaking America. This site will not understate salaries - they are recruiting Russians in the US.
              People stay there because of the pension. 20 years of service - and at 40 you are a free bird with a bunch of social benefits.
              1. +2
                6 March 2021 15: 25
                You shouldn't confuse the bare salary with the general contentment!
                1. -3
                  6 March 2021 15: 30
                  You shouldn't confuse the bare salary with the general contentment!


                  There are additional payments in the region of 400 bucks. Apartment and stuff. A trifle. What you wrote in 90 thousand a year is unattainable for 90% of the flight crew. These are command officers with or without flight training. Believe me, a pilot there is not a cool profession, but consumer goods like our carrier.
              2. 0
                8 March 2021 18: 47
                E-3 - First Class Pilot

                Lance Corporal (E-3)! Officers have designations (ON), where N = 1..10
                https://www.forumdaily.com/skolko-v-ssha-platyat-voennym/
                Are there pilots in the US with the rank of corporal?
    2. -1
      8 March 2021 11: 35
      Quote: Hunter 2
      Polish soldiers are not offended by money

      110k rubles of the platoon commander is the bottom
      not because "little", but because this is not enough to raise a highly professional soldier under capitalism, theoretically capable of supporting himself and his family.
      This means that the army for the most part will consist of youths, adventurers and marginalized people, and not of professionals. And in our army this is even worse.
      If the special forces, officers, especially starting from the underground and critically especially the suppliers, are still provided here and there (many suppliers can afford to buy a 100m apartment in the center of the St. The only thing that the army really gives is a relatively good pension and an early exit to it, as well as dubious loans.
  2. -13
    5 March 2021 14: 25
    Everything is just like that! You just need to take into account the cost of living in Poland, Europe. Rent, utilities, gasoline, medical care ... It is not a fact that in Poland the standard of living of military personnel is higher than in other states
    1. +24
      5 March 2021 15: 20
      Products are comparable in price to our 3-room apartment for about 12 thousand rubles medicines are comparable to ours Rags are very cheap Huge sales Think about it Data is real My wife has a sister of Poland and has been living there for 30 years
      1. -6
        5 March 2021 18: 58
        There are also bardels and restaurants, cheap.
      2. +1
        5 March 2021 22: 55
        3 bedroom hut for 12 thousand? Where are these fairy tales?
        1. 0
          6 March 2021 12: 45
          For fun, I took a payment from my relatives Send.?
          1. -1
            7 March 2021 15: 24
            is it a communal apartment? And how much rent then? What's so much?
            1. +2
              8 March 2021 08: 05
              Why do you think that all Poles live in rented apartments? Housing construction is quite well developed there and there is a mortgage, much cheaper than ours
    2. +8
      5 March 2021 16: 49
      In Poland, everything is at least 30 percent cheaper! From communal apartments to clothes and food!
      Your cap!
      1. -6
        5 March 2021 19: 51
        Quote: dgonni
        In Poland, everything is at least 30 percent cheaper! From communal apartments to clothes and food!
        Your cap!

        Yes, of course, there seems to be no section of fairy tales and legends.
        1. +1
          5 March 2021 20: 08
          TA-dah! Reality! The fact that in Ukraine the package is the amount. And in Russia the amount is a bit more?
          In Poland, this is garbage that the hard worker does not pay attention to!
          Such is se la vie!
          This is reality!
        2. -1
          6 March 2021 12: 47
          Have you been to Poland? Well, based on Solovyov, it's not fucking ...
        3. -1
          6 March 2021 12: 55
          Were in Poland.?
        4. 0
          26 March 2021 15: 33
          Yes, yes. But at the same time it is not yet plasticine cheese.
    3. -1
      6 March 2021 04: 05
      They receive more than in Russia (with some exceptions), as well as more than military personnel in neighboring countries - the Baltic republics, the Czech Republic, Slovakia, not to mention Ukraine and Belarus.

      -in Polonia everything is complicated, neighbors can reconsider the boundaries of the young state
  3. +3
    5 March 2021 14: 32
    Not much by European standards. The corporal has about 1000 euros, and the brigadier general has about 2300 euros.
    1. +1
      5 March 2021 15: 07
      Income tax is paid in Poland by both residents and non-residents. A progressive tax scale is used.

      At a rate of 18%, income is taxed up to PLN 85 (minus PLN 528 tax from the non-taxable minimum).
      For income over this amount, the rate is 32%.

      That is, immediately minus 32% of the salary.

      "A corporal who has served in the army for 8 years will receive 4939,60 zlotys, which is equal to 96 310 rubles." After paying the tax, this is already 60000 in rubles.

      What taxes are still paid by the military?
      What is the cost of a communal apartment, basic food, travel, gasoline?
      1. 0
        5 March 2021 15: 18
        Quote: navel
        What taxes are still paid by the military?

        I know that the income and social, but the latter is not everywhere. I wonder if the Russian army pays income tax or not.
        1. +7
          5 March 2021 16: 11
          In our time, the guys still paid a tax for childlessness. It was called "by the balls." Canceled now.
          1. +3
            5 March 2021 16: 31
            Quote: Galleon
            In our time, the guys still paid a tax for childlessness. It was called "by the balls." Canceled now.

            6% "for eggs" 13% income, 3% party dues, 1% union dues = 23%
            1. +3
              5 March 2021 16: 51
              ABOUT! I have already forgotten about party payments))
              1. +1
                5 March 2021 16: 52
                Quote: Galleon
                ABOUT! I have already forgotten about party payments))

                And the trade union total is 4%. How I received a salary of 3000 rubles, 700 flew away.
            2. 0
              6 March 2021 13: 00
              I agree completely The young lieutenant has a nightmare when everyone is reading up, But most of all Avgan's joke was taken from both rubles and checks. But for a serious injury, they also took party contributions from payments like this
              1. 0
                6 March 2021 15: 03
                Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
                But most of all, Avgan's joke was taken from both rubles and checks.But for a serious injury, they also took party contributions from payments like this

                From a military man, it was easier to calculate. And when we were on business trips (civilians) these officials showed a fig. Lagged behind.
            3. +1
              7 March 2021 20: 17
              as far as I remember, for "eggs" 10%. maybe I'm wrong. but with an engineering salary and income, and the trade union and a bunch of stamps ... I don't even remember all of them. yes, and lottery tickets. the trade unionists lived well. and the top is still getting fat on contributions. robbed all hotels, health resorts. Shmakov's condition has not yet been assessed - it is encrypted.
              1. 0
                7 March 2021 21: 59
                Quote: begemot20091
                as far as I remember, for "eggs" 10%. maybe I'm wrong.

                Income -13%, Eggs - 6% Total - 19%
                Party dues, trade union and alimony (but without eggs) separately.
        2. 0
          15 March 2021 09: 24
          Like all 13%. They would have canceled, then the pay would have increased.
      2. 0
        5 March 2021 15: 41
        Quote: navel
        At a rate of 18%, income is taxed up to PLN 85

        Monthly or yearly?
        1. 0
          5 March 2021 16: 14
          It is considered weather.
          1. 0
            5 March 2021 16: 18
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            It is considered weather.

            And here it is not written, are the salaries of Polish soldiers clean or dirty?
            1. +1
              5 March 2021 16: 24
              Most likely dirty. I ought to call my friends, but everyone works sad
              1. 0
                5 March 2021 16: 37
                Quote: Bolt Cutter
                Most likely dirty. I ought to call my friends, but everyone works

                The payment is written everywhere as "dirty".
              2. +1
                5 March 2021 16: 40
                Quote: Bolt Cutter
                Most likely dirty.

                I generally do not understand these taxes on the income of state employees. In fact, it turns out shifting from one pocket to another. Bureaucracy, in a word.
                The average salary of a junior officer of the Polish Army in the past, 2013, was 5470 zlotys - at the average exchange rate for that year, it is about 1800 dollars.

                By Polish standards, not so much, but 1,5 times more than the average salary in the country. In addition, servicemen, regardless of rank, do not pay contributions to the pension fund and social security fund, these articles are covered by the state for them. Therefore, the "clean salary" for lieutenants and captains, consider it twice as much as the average income of other categories of workers.
                https://nn.by/?c=ar&i=138573&lang=ru
                1. 0
                  5 March 2021 22: 57
                  Quote: mordvin xnumx
                  Quote: Bolt Cutter
                  Most likely dirty.

                  I generally do not understand these taxes on the income of state employees. In fact, it turns out shifting from one pocket to another. Bureaucracy, in a word.
                  The average salary of a junior officer of the Polish Army in the past, 2013, was 5470 zlotys - at the average exchange rate for that year, it is about 1800 dollars.

                  By Polish standards, not so much, but 1,5 times more than the average salary in the country. In addition, servicemen, regardless of rank, do not pay contributions to the pension fund and social security fund, these articles are covered by the state for them. Therefore, the "clean salary" for lieutenants and captains, consider it twice as much as the average income of other categories of workers.
                  https://nn.by/?c=ar&i=138573&lang=ru

                  why? How will you calculate taxes if not from the salary?
                  1. +1
                    5 March 2021 23: 12
                    Quote: Usher
                    How will you calculate taxes if not from the salary?

                    And why, one wonders, to calculate them if they go back to the budget?
                    1. 0
                      7 March 2021 15: 23
                      Quote: mordvin xnumx
                      Quote: Usher
                      How will you calculate taxes if not from the salary?

                      And why, one wonders, to calculate them if they go back to the budget?

                      people work differently.
                      1. 0
                        7 March 2021 15: 55
                        Quote: Usher
                        people work differently.

                        That's it. People are engaged in brain biting.
                  2. ANB
                    +2
                    6 March 2021 01: 23
                    ... why? How will you calculate taxes if not from the salary?

                    All 90s servicemen did not pay personal income tax. Then they introduced it, but the state paid. And it ended with the usual tax.
                    And why it is needed is not clear. Only the financiers have more work.
      3. +3
        5 March 2021 17: 03
        you think wrong
        32 percent is paid on income exceeding PLN 85
        that is, from 96310 the tax will be
        (96310- 85528) * 32% = 3450
        (85528-556) * 18% = 15295
        total 18745 tax, on hand receives 77565.
        This is if there are no benefits and tax deductions.
        for example, family tax in Poland for spouses - the minimum level at the rate of 18% is doubled
        i.e
        The law gives the right to taxpayers - spouses to settle accounts with the budget jointly, if they have common property and have been married for the entire reporting year. Thus, 18 x 85 = 528 PLN falls under the 2% rate.
      4. 0
        5 March 2021 17: 38
        Strangely you think - 32% is paid from the amount exceeding PLN 85600, and before that only 18%. Those. taxes corporal with 96000 pln will pay about 20000 pln and he will receive about 76000 pln in his hands.
      5. -1
        7 March 2021 15: 36
        Also, the cost of living must be calculated. All the same, an EU country, so services, housing, communal flat should be more expensive there.
        1. +1
          7 March 2021 20: 24
          products of better quality and cheaper. rags, compared to ours, a gift. especially on sales ramps. the communal apartment is expensive. travel is more expensive, but it depends on how you pay, where you buy tickets: from the conductor, in the machine or through the phone you pay. children's, if I'm not mistaken, 10 times higher than ours. daughter receives for her grandson. registration of the purchased property is expensive. very expensive. we have 2000 rubles, they have a state duty - the daughter paid 4000 zlotys. home appliances are much cheaper and furniture .... but I can't stay there for more than 3 days - somehow it's not mine. probably old already. got used to his mother RUSSIA.
      6. 0
        26 March 2021 15: 38
        A recruit of the Latvian army receives 950 euros after taxes. Further more. Plus insurance, extended vacations, early retirement and, importantly, a pension of 80% of earnings.
        Hence the very high prestige of the service and an equally tough selection.
  4. +2
    5 March 2021 14: 43
    Judging by the past exercises, the generals are paid a little more than they deserve, and the fighters are fair, they still die for 2-3 days ...
  5. -17
    5 March 2021 14: 47
    And keep in mind that the president with the flexibility of his back is downright incredible - not only he himself does not disdain to stand in the Oval Office with cancer. but gladly everyone who receives
    4110 PLN
    , and with his own hand he will lower his trousers with the same polite smile on his face, if the owner orders.
    In other words, for PLN 4 there is a non-illusory chance of throwing the flippers behind the poppy bed in Uncle Sam's garden
    1. 0
      26 March 2021 15: 40
      For service in "Afghanistan" there is a very decent additional payment, and the risk is minimal, nevertheless.
      In addition, trips to these places are voluntary.
  6. +6
    5 March 2021 14: 53
    There is no data on how servicemen are provided with when they retire or retire.
    Indeed, for the majority, when this period comes.
    And so a good article, you can tell about other armies of the world. Thank .
    1. 0
      5 March 2021 15: 51
      Quote: Blacksmith 55
      There is no data on how servicemen are provided with when they retire or retire.

      After 15 years of service, a Polish contractor can retire and receive at least 40% of the last salary, plus various allowances depending on the conditions of service.

      Read on WWW.KP.BY: https://www.kp.by/daily/27020.7/4082433/
    2. 0
      6 March 2021 04: 10
      Do they buy shoes and shirts themselves? rent when leaving the warehouse?
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  8. 0
    5 March 2021 15: 08
    Quote: Hunter 2
    The Polish servicemen are not offended by the money, their “national pride” has been pinched and the dream “from moz to mozha” has been taken away laughing
    The transition to a fully contracted Army ... in my opinion is not good, but this is their own business ... It is easier for ours!

    All strong and professional armies are recruited on a professional basis. In addition, the level of combat capability and skills of contract soldiers cannot be compared with conscripts. So the good fellows are Poles! It's time for us to switch completely to a contract basis.
    1. +8
      5 March 2021 15: 16
      All strong and professional armies

      Probably you meant on a voluntary basis - not all, for example Israel or South Korea. The level of combat effectiveness depends, first of all, on the quality of combat training, and not on the method of manning.
    2. +2
      5 March 2021 22: 59
      Quote: Rita Aletdinova 1999
      Quote: Hunter 2
      The Polish servicemen are not offended by the money, their “national pride” has been pinched and the dream “from moz to mozha” has been taken away laughing
      The transition to a fully contracted Army ... in my opinion is not good, but this is their own business ... It is easier for ours!

      All strong and professional armies are recruited on a professional basis. In addition, the level of combat capability and skills of contract soldiers cannot be compared with conscripts. So the good fellows are Poles! It's time for us to switch completely to a contract basis.

      fool
    3. 0
      11 March 2021 13: 01
      It's impossible to contract everything .... With general conscription, a part of the population has at least some military training. This will affect in a serious military conflict - when most of the military contract soldiers are ground up in battles, the ranks will have to be replenished from the farmers. I agree that the backbone should be from contract soldiers, but general military service should still remain ... This is just a personal opinion, I do not impose on anyone ...
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  10. +11
    5 March 2021 15: 09
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Not much by European standards. The corporal has about 1000 euros, and the brigadier general has about 2300 euros.

    Poles have very low prices for everything. There, a grocery basket is even cheaper than in Bulgaria and Russia. Therefore, they can afford a lot with this money. My friend lives in Lodz, so comparing our Kazan and their prices for the same products, I am very surprised that many products are cheaper than ours. I generally keep quiet about the shares. They have half of their goods. There is something to envy in fact in such a situation! I envy.
    1. +6
      5 March 2021 15: 22
      That's exactly what I wrote above that my wife's own wife lives in Poland and it is in Lodz
      1. +13
        5 March 2021 15: 55
        Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
        my wife has a wife

        What a strange harem you have. recourse
        1. -3
          6 March 2021 13: 05
          I really didn't understand your stupid humor
          1. 0
            7 March 2021 14: 57
            Don't worry too much, just read what you yourself wrote "WIFE's own WIFE lives in Poland." The humor applied to your typo might not be very funny, but it certainly isn't dumb.
      2. +5
        5 March 2021 16: 41
        Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
        That's exactly what I wrote above that my wife's own wife lives in Poland and it is in Lodz

        and what is your relationship to your wife's wife?
        understand that there is a typo. could not resist))
        1. 0
          6 March 2021 13: 07
          I am not familiar with this heraldic ribbon, but I have visa-free travel to Poland and go there very often, and therefore, on full grounds, I say what I know and saw
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    3. +4
      5 March 2021 15: 24
      Quote: Rita Aletdinova 1999
      There, a grocery basket is even cheaper than in Bulgaria and Russia.

      Poles' food, vodka, beer and smoke are cheaper than throughout the eurozone, if I'm not mistaken. The rest was of no interest.
      1. +5
        5 March 2021 15: 34
        Yes, you can live there on the indicated amount. PLN 4000 is a typical worker's salary. But Poles have the opportunity to earn more - working in Germany, Holland and so on. Therefore, apparently, young people are not eager to join the army.
        1. +2
          5 March 2021 15: 42
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          But Poles have the opportunity to earn more - working in Germany, Holland and so on. Therefore, apparently, young people are not eager to join the army.

          Of course, for a young guy, even in a working profession, you can earn from 1500 to 2000 euros in Poland.
      2. +1
        6 March 2021 13: 08
        Smoke is officially very expensive
        1. 0
          6 March 2021 15: 06
          Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
          Smoke is officially very expensive

          Officially, but cheaper than 4,50 euros, as in most European countries.
    4. -12
      5 March 2021 15: 32
      On the other hand, in Poland you can hardly buy real meat - peasant meat. It's the same with dairy products, vegetables and fruits in markets full of chemicals.
      I often watch Russian videos about cooking - for example, Andrey Rostovsky - I envy Russian when it comes to grocery shopping.

      As for the salaries of the soldiers, it is not low - the salaries of the soldiers are close to the so-called average in the country.
      In addition, they have a lot of bonuses, allowances, etc. Moreover, a military man retires after 25 years of service (ten years ago it was after 15 years of service !!!)
      Contrary to the information in the article, military service is a profession that attracts many Poles and Polish women. It's hard to get there.
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      2. 0
        5 March 2021 15: 38
        Yes it is. Poles love to stuff chemistry into their products. But why are ours better? Same! Rubbish is paramount! This also applies to Ukrainians. Therefore, I personally save myself with natural Soviet products) In turn, the Poles are rescued by European products (the Eurozone). And the joke - in Poland, European goods are cheaper than in countries that produce goods) Hehe)
        1. 0
          5 March 2021 15: 43
          What a damn tupanula! Not Soviet, but Belarusian products, which are made according to the Soviet GOST!
          1. +1
            7 March 2021 00: 04
            I'm afraid to disappoint you.
            Not done. There are production
            which, due to old equipment,
            cannot douche chicken breast with soy.
            That's all.
            So observance of GUESTS is not a rule.
            1. -1
              7 March 2021 21: 54
              You won't be able to disappoint me) Since I know that Belarusian products are identical to Soviet ones)
        2. +2
          5 March 2021 15: 59
          Quote: Rita Aletdinova 1999
          Yes it is. Poles love to stuff chemistry into their products. But why are ours better?

          And where it is not shoved, the entire "E" line is present everywhere, even to mayonnaise and ketchup.
          Capitalism is the same everywhere, plus European standards in Europe.
        3. +1
          5 March 2021 16: 01
          Quote: Rita Aletdinova 1999
          And the joke - in Poland, European goods are cheaper than in countries that produce goods) Hehe)

          Because the quality is worse than Polish.
          1. 0
            6 March 2021 13: 22
            There is also a downside to the coin - it seems that the same goods, for example, in German stores, have a different composition than those allegedly the same on the Polish market. This applies to both food products and, for example, household chemicals, where washing powder, for example Vizir, has a different composition, despite outwardly identical packaging.
        4. +12
          5 March 2021 16: 15
          In general, it's hard to imagine how in the European Union, where everything is strictly with chemistry, everyone is stuffed with it! I was in Poland. Ate. You know, I have not tasted more delicious cheeses and yoghurts! And my wife agrees with me.
          Pork, as far as I know, is grown on premixes. But as I understand it, everything is normal in the final product.
        5. +4
          5 March 2021 16: 17
          Polish food is better than English in a comparable price category. European foodstuffs are cheaper in Poland due to tax policy and supermarket margins - in France / Belgium they are higher.
          1. 0
            5 March 2021 16: 45
            Quote: Bolt Cutter
            Polish food is better than English in a comparable price category.

            We will come to the English store, we will take vodka, but there is nothing to eat. It is necessary to cook this, it is in the oven. And we would have smoked sausages, and loin with brisket. You sit and choke on sweet rolls.
        6. +3
          5 March 2021 17: 08
          Poles have a lot of fairly high quality products
          as for Europe, everything is different.
          the Italians, for example, have inexpensive and good quality products.
          1. -2
            7 March 2021 00: 18
            I have been everywhere in Europe.
            We would have normal bread.
            Only he is not.
            I do not speak
            even about milk.
            Not bread, but some kind of cement.
            1. +1
              7 March 2021 06: 29
              The Chekhovs, for example, have very little bread
        7. 0
          6 March 2021 04: 14
          there was a scandal - some brands of goods have different ingredients - simplified for Eastern Europe (IRF). half-shit. in old Europe - high-grade goods, tf "in accordance with GOST"
      3. -1
        5 March 2021 15: 49
        Quote: Constanty
        I often watch Russian videos about cooking - for example, Andrey Rostovsky - I envy Russian when it comes to grocery shopping.

        In Russia, of course, you can find many good products, it all depends on the wallet. And the supervision in Russia is serious.
        But for the common man, you also have not bad products at an affordable price. I often took food in Szczecin, Gdansk, Gdynia. Of course, you can't compare with Lithuanians, but compared to the rest of Europe, the products in Poland are good.
      4. 0
        6 March 2021 13: 13
        Almost all Germans bordering on Poland buy me in Poland According to official data, Poland exports agricultural products worth 25 billion dollars. I bought a ring in Krakow for fun. Krakow didn’t resist, and I ate it there. So don’t talk about what you don’t know
        1. 0
          6 March 2021 13: 30
          I am not saying that you cannot find good cold cuts in Poland. They are. However, good quality raw meat is difficult to find for DIY cooking. A trivial example - you can't buy good bacon. At most, the finger is thick and hard, like rubber, in the same way I wanted to make a float - you won't find mutton ... And you can take so long
          1. 0
            6 March 2021 15: 30
            But in Poland they don't eat bacon Well, it is not in stores. From the word at all
            1. 0
              7 March 2021 00: 23
              So there is no frost either.
              And chewing warm bacon - you can go crazy.
        2. -1
          7 March 2021 00: 21
          Familiar Poles gasp at the sight of our "Krakow".
          The Italians almost fell ill with a fit over our cheeses and pizza.
          The French hold their heads too high
          to compare something at all.
          Nemchins, those are quieter. Sadly and boringly they will chew what they give.
          Then they will mumble under their breath. Russishe Schwein and all that, drive to Kaliningrad,
          in Rauschen, look at them.
          Different temperaments.
  11. +3
    5 March 2021 15: 14
    Quote: navel
    Income tax is paid in Poland by both residents and non-residents. A progressive tax scale is used.

    At a rate of 18%, income is taxed up to PLN 85 (minus PLN 528 tax from the non-taxable minimum).
    For income over this amount, the rate is 32%.

    That is, immediately minus 32% of the salary.

    "A corporal who has served in the army for 8 years will receive 4939,60 zlotys, which is equal to 96 310 rubles." After paying the tax, this is already 60000 in rubles.

    What taxes are still paid by the military?
    What is the cost of a communal apartment, basic food, travel, gasoline?

    You're not right. In this case, net salaries are presented. Not one Pole will risk his life for 50-60 thousand rubles. They cannot find their own citizens to work for a thousand euros, since the Poles disdain to work for such a salary. Therefore, they are forced to import Belarusians, Moldovans, Ukrainians, Uzbeks and even Vietnamese (usually to factories for the production of clothing and footwear). In some Polish cities, there are already more migrant workers than the Poles themselves. The Poles are very unhappy with this.
    1. +5
      5 March 2021 15: 39
      The Poles are very unhappy with this.


      I do not agree with this statement. Foreigners come to work in large numbers and work well. Many from the east - Belarus and Ukraine are quickly acclimatized, children study in Polish schools - for example, in my daughter's kindergarten in group 1 Russian, 1 Belarusian and 3 Ukrainians - in a group of 18 children. There are no quarrels, disagreements. They have fun together, and my children are very happy to learn Russian.

      Of course, a handful of nationalists will be against it, but they
    2. 0
      5 March 2021 16: 48
      Quote: Rita Aletdinova 1999
      You're not right. In this case, net salaries are presented. Not one Pole will risk his life for 50-60 thousand rubles.

      Gross. They forgot about the progressive tax, from the corporal 18%, and from the general already 32%.
    3. 0
      5 March 2021 23: 02
      The Poles are very unhappy with this.
      и
      how Poles disdain to work for such a salary
      so let them decide, if they are not happy, then why don't they themselves work? If there are no gaster, then their sweet life will end. Why does everyone forget that the well-being of Europe is a banal robbery? In this case, the robbery of guest workers. And their countries.
  12. +4
    5 March 2021 15: 17
    Another interesting fact about the Poles. They massively marry girls from the post-Soviet space, usually Ukrainian women. But when a child is born, many categorically prohibit teaching him Russian or Ukrainian. That's what they say, our children are Poles and should speak Polish. Nationalism is quite widespread in society. But if you have a Pole's Card, then they perceive it as their own. If not, and you come from the post-Soviet space, then get ready for harassment and only the lowest paid job.
    1. 0
      5 March 2021 15: 25
      But if you have a Pole's card, then they perceive it as their own
      For a long time, the Poles noticed that these cards are dealt to everyone in a row, and they are very unhappy with this (the card does not change the mentality). Such freshly baked fellow citizens are called "plastic" or "cardboard" Poles.
      1. +1
        5 March 2021 15: 42
        I have not met such a term
        1. 0
          5 March 2021 15: 44
          I have a friend who is a Wisla fan am told.
          1. +5
            5 March 2021 15: 49
            Football fanatics are more of a social margin. I would not rely on their opinion
            1. 0
              5 March 2021 15: 54
              Nationalism among Poles is widespread and it is clearly not the only one. So it is unnecessary to stigmatize him (by the way, a qualified engineer) as a marginal.
              1. +2
                5 March 2021 23: 03
                Quote: Bolt Cutter
                Nationalism among Poles is widespread and it is clearly not the only one. So it is unnecessary to stigmatize him (by the way, a qualified engineer) as a marginal.

                And what if the engineer is right at once or what? I see idiots of engineers at work every day.
    2. +5
      5 March 2021 15: 44
      I don't know where this information comes from.
      In Poland, there has recently been a revival of interest in the Russian language (I admit that in 1990-2000 it was undesirable in many universities).

      Now many people want to learn it again - unsurprisingly - it's a beautiful language.
      1. 0
        6 March 2021 13: 26
        Where does the information come from? Personally, I haven't seen this for two or three months.
        1. +2
          6 March 2021 13: 47
          Excuse me. What do you not see?
          I work at the university and see what is happening on the course of Slavic philology, how popular Russian literature (in the original!) Is among students, What is the interest in Russian textbooks
          1. 0
            6 March 2021 15: 32
            Which university and where.? ,,
            1. +1
              6 March 2021 15: 39
              I work at the Zelenogorsk University in Zielona Gora, a city known, for example, for the Soviet Song Festival :-)
          2. +2
            9 March 2021 08: 12
            I put a "plus": my grandson goes to "British" where they do not study Russian, but they are happy to communicate with him and my daughter, trying to master the language. And, "my friend", "they wrote to me" does not roll .. I often visit my daughter - no one has ever said anything bad to me, although I am not "boom-boom" in Polish. All however, we communicate with some of both young and old - my peers - they, by the way, many understand and even speak Russian. And about meat: my daughter always takes excellent meat from farmers. When I come and stay at the farm, I buy in the store (I pay with the card - it turns out a little more expensive, but it suits me). I often take orange juice and fruit. By the way, Poles "thump" like regular cabbies and smoke a lot, especially women.
    3. 0
      5 March 2021 16: 49
      Quote: Rita Aletdinova 1999
      But if you have a Pole's Card, then they perceive it as their own.

      BUT second grade. Ask the Belarusians from Molodechno, they will explain who is who.
    4. 0
      6 March 2021 13: 23
      Well, you are so wrong. I already wrote that my wife's sister married a Pole. Now she is a citizen of Poland and already a grandmother. Have you seen the oppression of Russians.? My wife and I have a card for everyday life, that is, a card of a Pole, we go there very often Well, I have not seen harassment In the pub there is more Russian speech than Polish (Ukrainians) My sister's husband has a good business, 12 Ukrainians work in the factory When I asked what type of him he rotted them he sent me and said that if the tax office finds out, he will go around the world. Think about it.
  13. -14
    5 March 2021 15: 22
    Quote: strannik1985
    All strong and professional armies

    Probably you meant on a voluntary basis - not all, for example Israel or South Korea. The level of combat effectiveness depends, first of all, on the quality of combat training, and not on the method of manning.

    Is South Korea a strong army? Is that your humor? Then I tell you three times Ha! North Korea will wipe this army off the face of the earth in a couple of months. As for Israel, the army is strong, I admit it. But the Israelis themselves terribly criticize conscript service and believe that it is necessary to transfer the army to a fully contractual basis, which should increase its combat effectiveness. At the same time, in Israel, ultra-Orthodox and Arabs are not drafted into the army, but the female population is rowing there. Is this normal in your opinion? And they are not as strong as the Lebanese wars showed. Hezbollah is only one of the branches of the Iranian army, but they were able to squeeze out the Israelis from the territory of Lebanon in fact, defeating them. After all, fighting the Arabs and Persians, as it turned out, is not the same thing.
    1. +2
      5 March 2021 15: 33
      Is South Korea a strong army?

      Namely, one of the most numerous and well-armed.
      Oh yeah, also the PLA.
      Is this normal in your opinion?

      Of course, why train would-be fighters? In the 2006 operation, the IDF did not use 10% of its capabilities.
      1. -6
        5 March 2021 15: 44
        And what are they militants? Only the most repulsed right-wingers in Israel think so. And what is the use of conscript service in Israel, if you can create a combat-ready contract army and forget about the quarrels within society on the topic of conscript service? And the reason is trivial. Corruption there is no lower than ours and it is easier to cut money in urgent service.
        1. +1
          5 March 2021 15: 50
          And what is the use of conscript service in Israel, if you can create a combat-ready contract army and forget about the quarrels within society on the topic of conscript service?

          Because they are constantly fighting, unlike ... As you might have noticed, all of the above armies are large in number of personnel. By the way, the KPA is also recruited.
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          2. -1
            5 March 2021 16: 00
            Americans and Europeans also fight, but they recruit their armies on a contract basis. My opinion is that plugging the gaps in the army with children, that is, conscripts, is the last thing. The army should be recruited on a voluntary basis only by those who want to serve in it!
            1. +4
              5 March 2021 16: 22
              The army should be recruited on a voluntary basis only by those who want to serve in it!
              And what about the reserve in case of a serious war with total mobilization? When will the pros fall in the first couple of weeks?
              1. -6
                5 March 2021 16: 33
                By the way, the contract army presupposes a very impressive reserve, and so that the contract army does not perish in the first couple of weeks of the war, it is necessary to develop the defense industry and tighten the training standards in our army.
                1. +1
                  5 March 2021 16: 36
                  By the way, the contract army assumes a very impressive reserve
                  And where does it come from if 90% of men saw weapons only in the movies?
                  you need to develop the defense industry and tighten the training standards in your army
                  In a big war, the entire defense industry will be taken out in 2-3 days. Or get up without electricity.
                  1. 0
                    5 March 2021 16: 54
                    It depends on what kind of defense industry. If the contract army has been functioning for several decades, millions of men will pass through it. Moreover, in modern wars, quantity does not play a big role, now it is quality that decides. In the United States, the contract army, for example, has existed for a very long time. Tens of millions of men and women are capable of high-quality war, and if we also take into account the fact that almost the entire population there owns weapons and knows how to shoot, they will grind anyone who attacks them.
                    1. +2
                      5 March 2021 18: 05
                      if all men serve in a contract army for a couple of years, then millions will pass .. or do you have a different service algorithm?
                  2. 0
                    6 March 2021 04: 21
                    war is !!!!!!!!!!!!!! the determination of mothers !!!!!!!!!!!, the home front to win, to send sons, husbands to death in the name of Victory. everything else is in third place.
                    look out of the eyes of your wife. mother.
            2. 0
              5 March 2021 16: 23
              Americans and Europeans also fight, but recruit their armies on a contract basis

              The Americans have a military budget like all other countries in the world; Europeans fight as part of a contingent of countries or with small forces, like France in Mali. A more or less serious conflict requires a lot of troops, for example, with the beginning of the civil war, the Armed Forces of Ukraine switched from the voluntary to the conscription principle of manning.
      2. -2
        5 March 2021 23: 05
        Namely, one of the most numerous and well-armed.
        but where does the strong? In my opinion, the South Korean army (my brother lives there) is not particularly distinguished by military training and experience. All the more in spirit.
  14. -6
    5 March 2021 15: 24
    Quote: Rita Aletdinova 1999
    Quote: navel
    Income tax is paid in Poland by both residents and non-residents. A progressive tax scale is used.

    At a rate of 18%, income is taxed up to PLN 85 (minus PLN 528 tax from the non-taxable minimum).
    For income over this amount, the rate is 32%.

    That is, immediately minus 32% of the salary.

    "A corporal who has served in the army for 8 years will receive 4939,60 zlotys, which is equal to 96 310 rubles." After paying the tax, this is already 60000 in rubles.

    What taxes are still paid by the military?
    What is the cost of a communal apartment, basic food, travel, gasoline?

    You're not right. In this case, net salaries are presented. Not one Pole will risk his life for 50-60 thousand rubles. They cannot find their own citizens to work for a thousand euros, since the Poles disdain to work for such a salary. Therefore, they are forced to import Belarusians, Moldovans, Ukrainians, Uzbeks and even Vietnamese (usually to factories for the production of clothing and footwear). In some Polish cities, there are already more migrant workers than the Poles themselves. The Poles are very unhappy with this.


    I gave the current rates of personal income tax in Poland. In this case, 32 percent of income. In Europe, this is a small percentage.
    I am more interested in other taxes paid by Poles.
    The size of the communal apartment, basic food, gasoline.

    I just saw more than once calculations according to which the income of the Poles after paying taxes is much less than that of the Russians. The Poles themselves in their media point to the difference in campaigns in determining the amount of wages. from the Russians and Poles (since the former take a net salary, the latter do not include taxes).
    1. +3
      5 March 2021 15: 40
      In this case, 32 percent of income
      17% in 2020. 32% is charged on amounts exceeding PLN 85528.
  15. -1
    5 March 2021 15: 24
    I read a midshipman from one blogger. He retired he was given a certificate for the purchase of housing 2,5 million rubles 2 children 2002 The brother retired 4 children also a warrant officer 7,5 million rubles 2008 Both submariners Good stimulation of military service in the army For what he bought, for what he sold.
  16. +1
    5 March 2021 15: 32
    Quote: navel
    Quote: Rita Aletdinova 1999
    Quote: navel
    Income tax is paid in Poland by both residents and non-residents. A progressive tax scale is used.

    At a rate of 18%, income is taxed up to PLN 85 (minus PLN 528 tax from the non-taxable minimum).
    For income over this amount, the rate is 32%.

    That is, immediately minus 32% of the salary.

    "A corporal who has served in the army for 8 years will receive 4939,60 zlotys, which is equal to 96 310 rubles." After paying the tax, this is already 60000 in rubles.

    What taxes are still paid by the military?
    What is the cost of a communal apartment, basic food, travel, gasoline?

    You're not right. In this case, net salaries are presented. Not one Pole will risk his life for 50-60 thousand rubles. They cannot find their own citizens to work for a thousand euros, since the Poles disdain to work for such a salary. Therefore, they are forced to import Belarusians, Moldovans, Ukrainians, Uzbeks and even Vietnamese (usually to factories for the production of clothing and footwear). In some Polish cities, there are already more migrant workers than the Poles themselves. The Poles are very unhappy with this.


    I gave the current rates of personal income tax in Poland. In this case, 32 percent of income. In Europe, this is a small percentage.
    I am more interested in other taxes paid by Poles.
    The size of the communal apartment, basic food, gasoline.

    I just saw more than once calculations according to which the income of the Poles after paying taxes is much less than that of the Russians. The Poles themselves in their media point to the difference in campaigns in determining the amount of wages. from the Russians and Poles (since the former take a net salary, the latter do not include taxes).

    It can't be. Their incomes are higher and decent. It's just that there is a gross salary, that is, dirty and a net salary, that is, clean. Here in the article the net is indicated. If their salaries were like ours, or lower, the Belarusians and Ukrainians, whose salaries are only slightly lower than ours, would not have reached there. Again, a friend lives in Lodz, she is married to a Pole, we studied with her in parallel classes, so I know the level of salaries and prices. The Poles have risen very well after joining the EU, their infrastructure is now not much worse than in Germany and in terms of income they are not much inferior to them. The reason is trivial - they have retained their currency, unlike the Balts, and therefore they have the lowest prices in the EU. Again, I will add that most Poles will not work for 90-100 thousand rubles net. They are applying for salaries of 120 and above. Otherwise, it is easier for them to work in Germany for 2000-2500 euros and spend them safely in their native Poland. In fact, the Poles live even fatter than the Germans. For the Germans, taxes eat up most of the wages.
  17. 0
    5 March 2021 15: 34
    Quote: Bolt Cutter
    But if you have a Pole's card, then they perceive it as their own
    For a long time, the Poles noticed that these cards are dealt to everyone in a row, and they are very unhappy with this (the card does not change the mentality). Such freshly baked fellow citizens are called "plastic" or "cardboard" Poles.

    Well, they distribute them to those who have Polish roots. So someone's dissatisfaction will not affect it in any way. All Western Belarus and a piece of Ukraine have them. Pole's card, by the way, gives fat buns to their owners.
    1. +1
      5 March 2021 15: 50
      Well, they distribute them to those who have Polish roots.
      The problem is that a Pole grandfather will not change the mentality of a Ukrainian. The real Poles began to notice this.
      For the Germans, taxes eat up most of the wages.
      Poles working for the Germans pay taxes for the Germans. So you can't live more curly. The maximum is on an equal footing.
      1. 0
        5 March 2021 16: 34
        But clean they get much more than in Poland. Therefore, they can live quite well on them.
        1. +1
          5 March 2021 16: 40
          Many are already on their way back. Who do I know in England - every fourth has already left (they are already invited to visit), and more than half of the rest are going. Because life in Poland is quite good.
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          2. 0
            5 March 2021 16: 51
            So they leave due to the fact that the rules have changed in England due to Brexit. Now there will be much fewer migrants)
            1. 0
              5 March 2021 23: 20
              Those who are already in England will not notice this - until June 21 of this year, you can register as a resident via your smartphone (!) - and the rules will not change for you. So that's not the point.
  18. Cat
    +3
    5 March 2021 15: 38
    The salary of a soldier in Poland consists of a basic salary by position and rank, plus a bonus for length of service.

    When I was in the service, it was more interesting for us: position + title (not the largest share, but all percentages were counted from it), an allowance for special conditions, for secrecy, for length of service, plus a variety of specific additional payments in areas. But the most interesting thing is the bonus, which could go from 0 to 50% of the total amount. This is, so to speak, a carrot and stick in the hands of the commander, who distributed the percentages of the elephants at his own discretion, sometimes depending on the mood of the left leg. To myself, as the most disciplined, hardworking and competent soldier - naturally, maximum fellow
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  20. -1
    5 March 2021 15: 55
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: Constanty
    I often watch Russian videos about cooking - for example, Andrey Rostovsky - I envy Russian when it comes to grocery shopping.

    In Russia, of course, you can find many good products, it all depends on the wallet. And the supervision in Russia is serious.
    But for the common man, you also have not bad products at an affordable price. I often took food in Szczecin, Gdansk, Gdynia. Of course, you can't compare with Lithuanians, but compared to the rest of Europe, the products in Poland are good.

    Our products were good until the mid-900s, and now they are getting worse and worse. Chemistry and poison everywhere. But that's not all! In recent years, they openly began to rob us, selling not ten, but nine eggs in a tray, but instead of a kilogram or a liter of products, selling XNUMX grams. There are, of course, relatively good products, but it has become negligible. Therefore, in our country, Belarusian products are carried off the shelves at the speed of light, and Belarusian cheeses have already completely replaced our rubber and chemical ones. I take Kazakh eggs, they are delicious and natural. I also look for Kazakh confectionery; oddly enough, it is also tastier than ours. So our supervision is a filkin letter.
  21. -2
    5 March 2021 16: 31
    Quote: strannik1985
    Americans and Europeans also fight, but recruit their armies on a contract basis

    The Americans have a military budget like all other countries in the world; Europeans fight as part of a contingent of countries or with small forces, like France in Mali. A more or less serious conflict requires a lot of troops, for example, with the beginning of the civil war, the Armed Forces of Ukraine switched from the voluntary to the conscription principle of manning.

    Is Israel on a small budget? Then they are working for the army with the whole country, yeah) If you eradicate corruption or reduce its scale, then you can easily create a strong and efficient army.
    1. 0
      5 March 2021 18: 27
      Is Israel on a small budget?

      Normal, but the peacetime army is large in relation to the number of population, and it is kept in a high degree of mobilization readiness. They do not need 176,5 thousand volunteers, but 631,5.
      1. -1
        6 March 2021 23: 07
        Here you go. Could have created a contract.
  22. -3
    5 March 2021 16: 38
    Obviously, there are a lot of zeros, but what is the purchasing power of the zloty, what can you buy, for example, with the salary of a private with 3 years of service? All this would not hurt to compare with prices and tariffs for housing and communal services. Then it would be clearer.
    1. +6
      5 March 2021 17: 16
      the cost of living in Poland is somewhat cheaper than in Russia, except perhaps for housing and gasoline.
      1. +1
        5 March 2021 23: 09
        Quote: Avior
        the cost of living in Poland is somewhat cheaper than in Russia, except perhaps for housing and gasoline.

        You will not understand, one who lives there in Lodz writes that 3shka is for 12 thousand a month and gasoline is cheaper. And here you are exactly the opposite
        1. +1
          6 March 2021 01: 03
          Looking with whom to compare
          a liter of gasoline in Poland is roughly about 1 euro or a little more.
          the same with housing - depending on what and with what to compare
        2. +1
          7 March 2021 00: 30
          I don’t live in Lodz, my wife’s sister lives there.And I claim that the communal apartment for a three-ruble note is about 12 thousand I saw payments myself Petrol yes, dorg about 1,04 euros
          1. 0
            7 March 2021 15: 21
            Quote: Sergey Nikiforov
            I don’t live in Lodz, my wife’s sister lives there.And I claim that the communal apartment for a three-ruble note is about 12 thousand I saw payments myself Petrol yes, dorg about 1,04 euros

            communal apartment? Figase? I don't pay for three rubles and three thousand a month.
            1. 0
              8 March 2021 08: 47
              Well, if you live in Mukhoska and receive 13 thousand, then yes
    2. 0
      26 March 2021 15: 59
      Yes, everything is in order for such a private. In addition to the salary, there are bonuses everywhere, additional payments for replacing vacationers, for obtaining related specialties, for housing, so most often this salary should be multiplied by about 2.
  23. +1
    5 March 2021 17: 11
    What about taxes? is it before or after
  24. +2
    5 March 2021 17: 14
    A private soldier - a contract soldier of the Polish army for 1 and 2 years of service receives 4 zlotys, for 110 years of service - 3 + 4 zlotys (110% of the basic salary). Private 123,30st class who served 3 years in the army - PLN 1 + 5 (4% of the basic salary).

    the author's figures and percentages do not match
    for example, 5 percent of 4180 is 209, not 125,4.
    1. 0
      8 March 2021 22: 25
      Not numbers, but numbers.
  25. +1
    5 March 2021 17: 44
    Not bad And why their youth does not go to serve? Is it really even cooler in civilian life ??? By the way, who is in the subject .. Is it true that a communal apartment for an apartment such as kopeck piece Khrushchev for three zlotys 500-550 will be?
  26. -5
    5 March 2021 20: 28
    I don’t know how it’s in Poland, but ours do not serve for money.
  27. +2
    6 March 2021 10: 36
    Yeah, and cigarettes for 13 zloty for four mowers there you will not roam
    1. 0
      6 March 2021 13: 12
      In England 11-odd pounds belay
    2. -1
      6 March 2021 23: 12
      Many people don't care about these cigarettes. You will be healthier. The main thing is that everything else is available.
  28. 0
    8 March 2021 22: 23
    It seems that such a norm of the Russian language itself has been established - to call numbers by numbers. This is what the country's leaders, television announcers, famous writers say ... Calling a number a number is like calling a word a letter or a melody as a note. Respect your reader. Write correctly.
  29. +1
    9 March 2021 07: 53
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Income -13%, Eggs - 6% Total - 19%
    Party dues, trade union and alimony (but without eggs) separately.

    Thank. I was a Komsomol member. I paid dues. And there were also stamps of some historical societies, literary ones. Petrel ... It was interesting to live: "Solntsedar", "Ruby", "Zosia", "Biomycin", "fruit-profitable", "Belomorkanal", "Pamir" - a beggar in the mountains ... And we were YOUNG!
  30. +5
    13 March 2021 14: 01
    in general, Polish soldiers are not offended by money

    Generally?! If we compare it with cash payments in Russia, then everything is just fine with them. I don’t know what they have with the prices and the consumer basket, but I think that it’s better than ours.
  31. 0
    23 March 2021 09: 49
    The author is sensitive to all misleading. To draw the correct conclusion, it is necessary to provide all the data. There is a lack of information on taxes, housing and clothing provision for military personnel, as well as the general standard of living and prices in the country. This is the only way to compare the social level of servicemen of different states.
  32. 0
    April 24 2021 20: 19
    Now show how much and for what they spend their zlotys, tk. bare numbers - the comparison is incorrect.