"There is every chance of winning this war": Kiev called the condition for Ukraine's victory over Russia

To win the war over Russia, Ukraine needs an ally. This was stated in an interview with "Facts" by the ex-chief of the General Staff - Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, General Viktor Muzhenko.

According to the retired Ukrainian general, Russia still has "imperial manners" and will never abandon its "aggressive plans." However, it is possible to defeat the "aggressor", for this Ukraine needs a strong ally. The general quoted Karl Mannerheim, who said that a strong government, an army and the unity of the people are needed for the country's prosperity, but added that in the case of Ukraine, this is not enough, without an ally Kiev will not be able to defeat Moscow.

These three conditions are probably not enough for us. We also need a strong loyal ally who will support Ukraine. Then we have every chance to win this war

- he said.

Muzhenko stressed that the threat of a military invasion of Ukraine by the Russian army existed and will continue to exist in the future. The general called the "water crisis" in Crimea one of the reasons for Russia's attack on Ukraine. It is this circumstance that will push Russia to implement the 2014 plans for the dismemberment of Ukraine.

At the same time, the former commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not rule out the option that Ukraine would turn into a springboard on which a clash between NATO and Russia would take place.

Note that when he was the commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, Muzhenko has repeatedly declared the readiness of the Ukrainian army to repel the "aggression" of Russia. In 2018, he "counted" over 30 thousand Russian military personnel in Donbas and about 700 tanksready to attack. In 2019, he also announced that Russia was preparing strikes against Ukraine from the north, east and south.

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[2 Level Advisor]

Well .. I will not argue with him .. with the current government of Ukraine, the only way to try to cope with Russia is to lie under someone ...

[Installer]

"Russia has two allies - the army and the navy."
Alexander the third.

[Temples]

To win the war over Russia, Ukraine needs an ally.

This ally is reason.
But the Khokhloführer does not have it.

But even brains won't help you win.
You there all hohloryy betrayed yourself. Greed and envy has led you to a dead end.
Devour yourself for the sake of English speakers.

You, hohlorylye, are not needed by anyone. You have renounced your Russian roots, and you won’t become Englishmen, because there’s a berry in the wrong field.

You will scrub the sarties for the Poles when the Poles are cleaning the latrine for the British.

And from the Russian lands, God willing, you will be kicked out. Have abandoned the clan, so do not litter the Russian space.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Temples

This ally is reason. But the Khokhloführer does not have it.

And why do they need reason when they have such thinkers!

The general quoted Karl Mannerheim, who said that a strong government, an army and the unity of the people are needed for the country's prosperity, but added that in the case of Ukraine, this is not enough, without an ally Kiev will not be able to defeat Moscow.

Muzhenko and Mannerheim! Strong power, an army and the unity of the people - all this is undoubtedly available in the VNAU.

[lucul]

And why do they need reason when they have such thinkers!

Well, look not at him - this is another Izzy.

[New Year day]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Muzhenko and Mannerheim!

okay to you! And Ivanov with Medinsky and Mannerheim?

[venik]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Muzhenko and Mannerheim!

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The haberdasher and the cardinal .... This is power!

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Quote: Vladimir_2U

Strong power, an army and the unity of the people - all this is undoubtedly available in the VNAU.

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Neither one nor the other, nor the third - is not observed in Ukraine ..... From the word - in general!
So, what about "prosperity" ..... It is better not to remain silent at all!

[hydrox]

Quote: venik

The haberdasher and the cardinal .... This is power!

So after all, without the cardinal, there will be no power!
And where can the skakuas get a cardinal, at least the most overwhelming one !?
And how then to live in powerlessness!?!?

[venik]

Quote: hydrox

So after all, without the cardinal, there will be no power!
And where can the skakuas get a cardinal, at least the most overwhelming one !?

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I give the exact address: USA, District of Columbia, Washington, White House, Oval Office ....

[hydrox]

Dear friend, the link is broken ::
"Borya made a puddle in the corridor,
One step forward and three steps back! "

[Metallurg_2]

So after all, without the cardinal, there will be no power!
And where can the skakuas get a cardinal, at least the most overwhelming one !?

The UGCC seems to have a cardinal.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Muzhenko and Mannerheim!

Quote: Silvestr

And Ivanov with Medinsky and Mannerheim?

Directly inspired by:

[Blacksmith 55]

Khramov, maybe it's worth changing your nickname to Hamov?
It has already been noticed by all Poke, why call all the Ukrainian people hohloryy?
Have respect for VO readers and for all peoples.
I myself am far from being Ukrainian, I do not support the policy of the Ukrainian authorities, but the whole people cannot be identified with the authorities.

[Slipper 2]

These people are the mothers / folders of Bandera snotty, with their tacit consent, all these crimes occur in xoxland

[Blacksmith 55]

And such an attitude of Khramov towards Ukrainians does not contribute to the improvement of relations between the two peoples.
I can recall a phrase attributed to Stalin.
Hitlers come and go, but the people stay.

[keeper03]

And what helps, give an example! Silence of the people - is complicity of useless power!

[New Year day]

Quote: keeper03

Silence of the people - is complicity of useless power!

and what are we ourselves?

[Alanart]

Alas and ah, Stalins and Russian tsars come and go, but the people (nationality) remains the people (nationality). With a characteristic mentality and historical experience :)

[New Year day]

Quote: Taptyzhka 2

These people are the mothers / folders of the Bandera

precisely because of this position we have what we have

[vadsonen]

And then there is a collective image of the nation. Of course, Svidomye were not born Bandera, but became them. But the result does not change from this.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: smith 55

Khramov, maybe it's worth changing your nickname to Hamov?
It has already been noticed by all Poke, why call all the Ukrainian people hohloryy?
Have respect for VO readers and for all peoples.
I myself am far from being Ukrainian, I do not support the policy of the Ukrainian authorities, but the whole people cannot be identified with the authorities.

Thank you very much - a wise man - for a wonderful worthy comment!

As for all these figures of unfinished prostitute underdevelopment, then they are all the same: writhing in a kneeling position in front of the gygymon mriyat, dreaming of how they, by joint efforts, will defeat Russia. And you want, and inject! Moreover very fear. In a simple way - piss and shit! No wonder they talk about "strong true ally ": they are not sure, they are afraid that the" ally "will leave. necessarily they will be thrown at the right moment! There is no secret who this "strong ally" is: it is the USA, NATO and the EU. They (ukrovlast and svidomity-Bandera) have been yelling for many years: "America is with us!", "Europe is with us!"

And they will try to realize their "chances" soon: the time has come, the "ally" has given an order. We are waiting, sir.

[2 Level Advisor]

I will support you, Vladimir .. Thank you Blacksmith 55!
nevertheless, the whole people should not be called names, it is unfair at least .. people and power were not united even in the Great October Revolution, because as a rule - power and people exist in parallel, only sometimes intersecting in elections .. and so in almost all countries ..

[Blacksmith 55]

Vladimir and the Counselor, you must respect not only the peoples, but also your opponent and even your opponent.
Politicians sometimes cannot speak differently, and after retiring some of them see their eyes and become realists.
Thank you for your support.

[Zug]

Where will NATO "throw" Ukraine? Ukraine is a tool - it is used for its intended purpose, squeezed out and thrown out. While the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the half of the country have the strongest motivation, hatred absorbed since 1991, well, the number of men who received combat experience is also not small. Knowledge of the mentality, language and hatred. makes of them the perfect "meat". And I'm afraid that coping with greasy neighbors with NATO, we will have a tough little boy. This is if "Stalin gives us an order."

[orionvitt]

Quote: Blacksmith 55

all people cannot be identified with the authorities

Very much even possible. Every nation has the power it deserves. You support Ukraine (it will not be different, due to its essence), then you support the existing government. He called himself Ukrainian, don't cry. One thing is not clear why, because of the extravagant ambitions of the newly-minted "people", the Russians should suffer, moreover, the indigenous people living in territories that have always (or have long been) considered part of the Russian Empire and became some kind of Ukraine by accident, at an incomprehensible whim of the then leadership. ...

[Blacksmith 55]

Yes, many cities on the territory of modern Ukraine were founded, watered with blood, and restored by the Russians, and not only during the time of Catherine II, but also during the USSR.
But it was by the will of the Bolsheviks that they ended up in the country where they are now. So far, only Crimea has returned to its native shores.
What will happen to other cities, one can only guess on the coffee grounds.

[Overlock]

Quote: orionvitt

One thing is not clear why, because of the extravagant ambitions of the newly-minted "people", the Russians should suffer, and the indigenous people living in the territories

A somewhat one-sided judgment! If we take the regions with the largest number of deaths in the ATO, we get: Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkov and other regions of the South-East of Ukraine

[orionvitt]

Quote: Overlock

If we take the regions with the largest number of deaths in the ATO, then we get: Dnipropetrovsk, Kharkov and other regions of the South-East of Ukraine

In fact of the matter. The worst thing is that the Russian people were fooled by the Ukrainian propaganda. Those in western Ukraine rub their hands and laugh at how they deceived the Russians. As in a children's counting room "they deceived a fool by four fists." This is what happens when you lose your roots. And zapadentsy always looked for a master in the west. They cannot live without it.

[paw]

As I understand hohloryly it means an active inadequate minority of traitors.
If so, then from the heart.

[venik]

Quote: Blacksmith 55

I myself am far from being Ukrainian, I do not support the policy of the Ukrainian authorities, but the whole people cannot be identified with the authorities.

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I, too, "not a single gram" is not Ukrainian, but I was born in Kiev, and spent my childhood in Kiev and Nikolaev (my father served there). Therefore, Ukraine - to me not a stranger! I still have there friends... Not everyone is already alive, but somewhat broke off relations with me (because of "terry ukropatriotism" - and this happens!). However, the fate of this country is me not indifferent - because I remember another country - the Ukrainian SSR! And those of my FRIENDS who stayed there are REAL PEOPLE brought up in the USSR!
One of them (by the way, 100% Ukrainian) wrote to me recently: “It’s so scary, painful and insulting to see what Ukraine is turning into! And the worst thing: I can’t change ANYTHING! It would be better if I was born in some OTHER country!
Well, HOW can you "cut ALL" with the same brush ""?!

PS You can throw slippers!

[Installer]

Are you talking to me?
I wrote a quote from the Russian Emperor.
And I also think that there are no other allies and we are not needed.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Installer

And I also think that there are no other allies and we are not needed.

Is it bad allies? Take the same Lend-Lease and the second front in the Second World War. It is clear that they would have managed without them, but more of our soldiers would have died. A good ally never hurts. It is easier to beat the dad with a herd.

[hydrox]

Do you really believe that NATO will go to war with the Russians for Ukrainian interests on Ukrainian soil?!?
If you overdo it, then you need to have a hangover in time ... or not drink at all.
As for the 2 MB, that military alliance was kept on a strict strategic premise: the weakened and drained of blood in the battles with fascism, the USSR could easily have been taken along with people, lands and resources - then the NATO members were not lucky! Even then it became clear that fascism is a bad ally, unable to rally the people into a single fist to defeat the USSR, why has it changed now? Therefore, NATO will be defeated even now.

[Hypertension]

Quote: hydrox

Do you really believe that NATO will go to war with the Russians for Ukrainian interests on Ukrainian soil?!?
If you overdo it, then you need to have a hangover in time ... or not drink at all.

Who is talking about what ... This advice of yours is not to drink, more will probably suit you. Since there is not a single line in my commentary about "NATO will go to war for the Ukrainian lands."

Quote: hydrox

As for 2 MV, that military alliance was kept on a strict strategic premise: the weakened and drained of blood in the battles with fascism, the USSR could easily be taken along with people, lands and resources

In fact, Britain was at war with Hitler's Germany even before the start of the Great Patriotic War. When the USSR had not yet entered the war with Hitler.

[hydrox]

With liber-greetings!

[Hypertension]

In fact, there is nothing to say? The only thing left is to play the fool

[hydrox]

Don't be rude, liberoid! This is not foolishness:
Liberast - liberal piss!

[Hypertension]

Don't put labels on. Where did you see liberality? Or Lend-Lease and the same Battle of Britain in the 40th year was not?
There were none, but the USSR had allies at that time. They provided some kind of help. What principles were they guided by is a separate topic. And in the 44-45s, when it was already clear that Germany would lose, they could not have opened a second front. And then there would have been more losses in the Red Army.
But there is nothing to argue, and therefore squeals about the liberals. Foolishness is.

[Per se.]

Quote: Installer

I wrote a quote from the Russian Emperor.
And I also think that there are no other allies and we are not needed.

Yes, the phrase of Alexander III is famous and is often quoted.
However, now the modern Russian government has two more loyal allies, these are oil and gas, and they are even more important to them than the fleet or the army.

[Insurgent]

Muzhenko has repeatedly stated the readiness of the Ukrainian army to repel the "aggression" of Russia. In 2018, he "counted" in the Donbas over 30 thousand Russian military and about 700 tanks ready for an offensive.

30 "bayonets" + 000 tanks to our forces :


Ground forces of the DPR make up 7 tactical groups and a separate tank battalion.

The composition of the tactical teams varies greatly. On average, they include:

2-4 motorized rifle battalions;
1-2 tank battalions;
Up to 4 artillery battalions;
Support companies.

As of April 2019, the DPR Armed Forces had at their disposal:

242 tanks (mainly T-72 and T-64);
145 light armored vehicles (mainly BMP-1, BMP-2, BTR-80, MTLB (U));
The number of artillery is unknown. For the most part it is represented by howitzers D-30 "Msta-B", "Hyacinth-B", self-propelled guns "Gvozdika" "Acacia", "Hyacinth", MLRS "Grad", "Uragan", "Smerch".

And also, "Azov flotilla" - of 6 high-speed boats, which are at the disposal of the special unit "Typhoon".


As of April 2019, the total number of the armed forces was 100 thousand people, including the PMVD and the Ministry of Emergency Situations - which is almost 5% of the population.

Generally speaking, Russian military experts estimate the size of the armed forces only DNR 60 thousand people. The Ukrainian side gives much lower estimates - up to 20 thousand.

[New Year day]

Quote: Insurgent

As of April 2019, the DPR Armed Forces had at their disposal:

Shooters, from the 6th minute, lying?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Silvestr

Shooters, from the 6th minute, lying?

But I don’t know about what, and most importantly why it said
We, near Donetsk and Gorlovka, on the first line, as of 2019 were equipped with 100% standard weapons and drugs. Yes, they are somewhat limited in access to the BC, but this is due to the intention of the command to limit the use of weapons in the armistice regime.


But as for the advisers ... Yes. It's true.

Warm, well-paid positions, on such a business trip, in the "no war, no peace" regime, these are -

[Ruslan Sulima]

Yes, let him howl, he did his job, I don't want to find fault with him. And so, let them think that we are weak, they will fall less than ours.

[keeper03]

You can’t say better!

[avg]

Quote: Temples

You, hohlorylye, are not needed by anyone. You have renounced your Russian roots, and you won’t become Englishmen, because there’s a berry in the wrong field.

I remembered a children's song:
"I am a bear, friends,
Come out without fear
If I'm with a friend,
And the bear is without a friend! "
But the Sumerians choose the wrong friends. They will feed them to the bear at the first nix.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Temples, everything is correctly and clearly stated. You can't say more precisely. I join.

[Avior]

Especially in 1917 and 1991.
The son of Alexander 3 probably remembered this phrase of the dad ...

[Pilat2009]

Quote: Installer

"Russia has two allies - the army and the navy."
Alexander the third.

Repeating other people's ideas is plagiarism

[orionvitt]

Quote: Pilat2009

Repeating other people's ideas is plagiarism

Plagiarism is to pass off other people's ideas as their own. And repeating other people's ideas, especially if they are sensible, is never harmful.

[Looking for]

do you distinguish between ideas and statements?

[Hypertension]

Quote: Installer

"Russia has two allies - the army and the navy."
Alexander the third.

The United States has exactly the same allies. Both the army and the navy. But also the NATO countries with their fleets and armies.

[hydrox]

Quote: Hyperion

The United States has exactly the same allies. Both the army and the navy. But also the NATO countries with their fleets and armies.

An unsuccessful example with allies: weak, cowardly, incapable of fighting, inclined to flee from the battlefield - how and with which allies did the United States fight in Syria all this time, while the Russian barmaley was beating there?

[Hypertension]

Quote: hydrox

weak, cowardly, incapable of fighting, prone to fleeing from the battlefield

Who are you talking about? Please clarify.

[sniperino]

Quote: Installer

"Russia has two allies - the army and the navy."
Alexander the third.

Now with videoconferencing - three.

[Civil]

The war between Russia and Ukraine is an excellent gift to the State Department. And any war in the context of international isolation and sanctions.

[Doccor18]

Quote: Civil

The war between Russia and Ukraine is an excellent gift to the State Department.

They would have started a long time ago, but ordinary residents of Uraina seem to have already fought ... And stubbornly do not want to die in crowds in "boilers" ...

... will push Russia to implement its 2014 plans to dismember Ukraine.

You cannot dismember what has never been a single whole ...

[New Year day]

Quote: Doccor18

yes, ordinary residents of Uraina seem to have already fought ...

do you think the children and grandchildren of the Ukrainian bourgeoisie are in the trenches?

[Doccor18]

Quote: Silvestr

do you think the children and grandchildren of the Ukrainian bourgeoisie are in the trenches?

Of course no.
But they are not sitting there because of a good life, and not because of a pathological desire to fight.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Civil

The war between Russia and Ukraine is an excellent gift to the State Department.

If, God forbid, there is a war between Russia and Ukraine, then, as they say, there will be no fight, there will be a beating.

[hydrox]

There will be no beatings: they will be poured several times as follows and a mass surrender will begin: there is no means of warfare; there are no goals for which one could fight - and victory in the war is not visible for anything.

[Victorio]

Quote: Civil

War of Russia and Ukraine - a great gift to the State Department. And any war in the context of international isolation and sanctions.

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who will fight there ?! Natsik, but the frostbitten youth? the rest will run home in a massive offensive.

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Victorio

who will fight there ?!

So Muzhenko is not in vain talking about "a faithful ally." Only one BUT. Who told him that America is a loyal ally? Let him look around, from yesterday's drunkenness he will open his eyes. Does he really hope that the "gallant American guys" will run headlong and die for the outskirts of the "Wishlist"?

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Pilat2009

There is no need for them to run, it's just that the sanctions will be introduced together with the European Union.

Michael! Don't make people laugh with the word "sanctions"! ... We are already "torn to shreds", and America is still trying to turn on the "sanctions machine" at full capacity. So far, only the printing press at the Fed is turned on.

[orionvitt]

Quote: Pilat2009

If Russia could, would have long ago chopped off Donbass

Don't confuse real capability with operational environment. It is not enough to have strength, you still need to take into account international politics and the consequences of your actions. But nothing, the international situation, the girl is not reliable, is constantly changing, so Russia will do everything right, do not worry. There is already the Prime Minister of Slovakia, ukrozhurnalists, sort of "as a joke", for the Russian vaccine, promised Russia the Transcarpathian Ukraine. If European politicians joke like that on camera, I can imagine what kind of conversations they have on the sidelines. This is all you need to know about what their closest neighbors in Europe really think about Ukraine.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

So Muzhenko is not in vain talking about "a faithful ally." ... well, cookies and rubber boats an ally brought in is a fact ... another thing is this half-witted striped muzhenko hinting at the fact that the states are weak and unreliable as an ally ... it is interesting what the can said about this

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

So Muzhenko is not in vain talking about "a faithful ally." ... well, cookies and rubber boats an ally brought in is a fact ... another thing is this half-witted striped muzhenko hinting at the fact that the states are weak and unreliable as an ally ...

A sacred thing for Svidomo - we have been looking at it for 30 years. At first, you get rid of everything and everyone, and then talk a lot, although the meaning is in two words: "Give me money ..." But, thank God, they don't cram into our friends-allies. On fig such "allies"! Let the West and America, headed by this "suitcase without a handle", suffer ....

[New Year day]

Quote: Victorio

the rest will run home in a massive offensive.

why do you think so?

[Looking for]

with a large-scale offensive EVERYONE will run !!!

[keeper03]

The 404 has every chance to repeat the fate of Nazi Germany!

[Romario_Argo]

The war between Russia and Ukraine is a great gift to the State Department

over 300 Russian citizens live in the LDNR
if there is a batch with the death of more than (~) 1000 citizens of the Russian Federation
then the 20th and 8th armies and the 22nd army corps + reinforcement units from the Moscow military district + the 1st army will destroy the Armed Forces of Ukraine as a formation in 2 days
only 3 brigades of Iskander OTRK are 144 missiles in first hour with cluster warheads
minus (-) 72 battalion of the Armed Forces of Ukraine is all 14 Brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Donbass
- and then Nebenzya will pay the State Department to the UN

[Insurgent]

Quote: Romario_Argo

destroy the Armed Forces of Ukraine as an alliance in 2 days
only 3 brigades of Iskander OTRK are 144 missiles in the first hour with cluster warheads
minus (-) 72 battalions of the Armed Forces of Ukraine are all 14 Brigades of the Armed Forces of Ukraine near Donbass

[Romario_Argo]

you have old data, there are now 14 brigades just for 1 hour of life

[Insurgent]

Quote: Romario_Argo

you have old data, there are now 14 brigades just for 1 hour of life

The data is just up to date, but only in the DPR.

[Romario_Argo]

as an option, you can watch the program on TV Star for the day before yesterday, I don’t remember exactly, there the map was just shown by the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

[Insurgent]

Quote: Romario_Argo

as an option, you can watch the program on TV Star for the day before yesterday, I don’t remember exactly, there the map was just shown by the units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine

My "map" (a source of information on the situation) is periodically fired, so there is no need for "Zvezda", at least according to the data around the DPR.

[Romario_Argo]

The star actually uses the data of our MO, this is their channel

[Insurgent]

Quote: Romario_Argo

The star actually uses the data of our MO, this is their channel

And I use the forward link. So why do I need "Zvezda" as a "transmission link"?

[Login_Off]

And they are not afraid to call themselves someone's bedding and.
On the other hand, they were with Russia before, what prevented them?
Have you decided to become independent? It didn't work out, they are looking for who needs such handsome self-styled men.
Disgustingly simple!

[dSK]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

the current government of Ukraine

Which Russia "presented" the Minsk agreements, ensuring the integrity of Ukraine. Inadequate desire to turn the country into LDP =

the former commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not rule out the option that Ukraine will turn into a springboard on which there will be a clash between NATO and Russia.

and at the same time hope for

unity of the people

[Thrifty]

Is the man looking for lo-hos, cannon fodder, ready to fight for the wukri? And he doesn’t know that the vukrov themselves will write politely for the role of "idiot" -yanki and appointed wukrov? ??

[Prisoner]

Why only at the present time? They were always lying under someone.

[D16]

Well .. I won't argue with him ..

And you say:

and so, neither we nor they on us, in the foreseeable future, will not attack

At the same time, the former commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not rule out the option that Ukraine would turn into a springboard on which a clash between NATO and Russia would take place.

The bridgehead is ready. Shit is raging in the Euroboiler. If they do not splash out to the east, they will flood Europe.

[hagen]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

only one way to try to cope with Russia is to lie under someone ...

Why "under someone"? Badly visible striped ass?

[venik]

Quote: 2 level advisor

Well .. I will not argue with him .. with the current government of Ukraine, the only way to try to cope with Russia is to lie under someone ...

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Will not help!!!

[halpat]

Quote: 2 level advisor

Well .. I will not argue with him .. with the current government of Ukraine, the only way to try to cope with Russia is to lie under someone ...

We need to interrogate one more ex.
What does Count Geletey, Count Ilovaisky, think about this?

[tralflot1832]

Didn't this one say that we used tactical nuclear weapons against the coffin-cyborg?

[Cottodraton]

Cheburashkas were being fired upon. I also said that, like

[1331M]

This one said a lot. All you need to know about this character is what his colleagues and subordinates said about him: “Vitya the woodpecker”, “Vitya the war”, “Vitya the hearse.” A bright representative of the Ukrobanderovtsy freak show. the nickname already says a lot.

[Borz]

This, in my opinion, Geleta said, is another gloomy Ukrainian "tactician and strategist." It's a pity, they removed him then from his post, otherwise we would have watched more than one ukrotel ...

[tralflot1832]

And I always thought that the best lieutenants become generals, but it’s like that! Wait, Russian enemies will begin to show.

[HAM]

I would recommend Georgia and Moldova as "strong and loyal allies", they will never be thrown in trouble like the Anglo-Saxons ...

[Irbiz123]

I'm afraid to ask: what will happen next with this bridgehead? Regardless of the outcome of the confrontation with NATO <=> RF, or rather, what will be left of it?

[silverwolf88]

stupid reasoning of a narrow-minded person who does not have knowledge of strategy from the word at all ... a war with NATO ... this is a nuclear war ... and there is not a bridgehead, but a nuclear wasteland from Ukraine will remain ... and we do not need the country of Sumeria from the word at all. ... and the population of this territory, which brought up several generations of Bandera and the enemies of all Russian, we do not need the same ...
those who are trying to establish themselves in Russia need to be strictly checked for activity (including activity in social networks), this is not a fraternal people for a long time ...

[Donhofleo]

Quite rightly said. Now this people can never be trusted.

[Nyrobsky]

The general quoted Karl Mannerheim, who said that for the country's prosperity, strong power, army and unity of the people

In view of the complete absence in Ukraine of the three factors listed by Mannerheim, the onset of prosperity to Ukraine does not threaten, as well as the achievement of victories. And that "ally", whom the dill chose as the main help, will definitely drive them to suicide

[Dym71]

Quote: Victor Muzhenko

We also need a strong loyal ally who will support Ukraine.

Aha
I'm a bear, friends,
Come out without fear
If I'm with a friend,
And the bear is without a friend!

[Alien From]

Comrade Dym 71-You Made My Morning

[Ruslan Sulima]

Damn, the spring exacerbation in all its glory, how many posts have already been here in recent days with statements from the independent)
And Muzhenko is still the head of the General Staff of Ukraine, all the boilers, as far as I remember, were under his competent strategic leadership)

[TermNachTer]

All broken generals love to tell tales about the fact that "well, I didn't, I didn't,")))) muzhelozhenko in this regard is neither new nor original)))

[Alien From]

This is called political prostitution.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alien From

This is called political prostitution.

"Goat" - a bagpipe made of whole goat skin (V. Dal).

[avdkrd]

A strong ally, according to the logic of this misunderstanding, apparently ASP. The humor is that having ASP on an enemy is cheaper and safer than having a friend. Negative selection among Ukrainian politicians has led to the fact that the media are quoting outright idiots. There is no one else.

[Cockroach Zee]

for the prosperity of the country, a strong power, army and unity of the people

These three conditions are probably not enough for us

You will never see these three conditions.

[Paragraph Epitafievich Y.]

Kafka, in the process of writing his next horror (I think it was "Nora"), came to such a claustrophobic horror of his own composition that he interrupted his work and fell into a depressed state.
And these Muzhelozhenko, it seems, masturbate to their writings and speeches.
When will this nonsense end? However - yes:

[fuel oil]

And where is the "opinion" of another commander about the offensive from the south-north? Not a set ...

[aszzz888]

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And where is the "opinion" of another commander about the offensive from the south-north? Not a set ...

They have a schedule there - some on even days, some on odd days.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: aszzz888

They have a schedule there - some on even days, some on odd days.

In Ukraine, there are no even or odd days, it only has every month, women's days.

[aszzz888]

tihonmarine (Vlad)
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Quote: aszzz888
They have a schedule there - some on even days, some on odd days.

In Ukraine, there are no even or odd days, it only has every month, women's days.

! Ie on March 8 the whole extreme will be buzzing?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: aszzz888

! Ie on March 8 the whole extreme will be buzzing?

Every month will walk if there is no "delay".

[iouris]

They hammer and hammer at one point: they gradually accustom the population to inevitable defeat.

[Cowbra]

Guys, calm down already! You already won, 7 years ago. Enough to bury the Altai armored militia 100500 times ... Calm down, everything is good, this is a ceevropa, this is savory kava, these are orderlies, and Bendera has long been the President of the Galaxy.

[tihonmarine]

These three conditions are probably not enough for us. We also need a strong loyal ally who will support Ukraine. Then we have every chance to win this war

Already no ally will help Ukraine, it is "like a dead poultice".

[Gennady Fomkin]

According to the retired Ukrainian general, Russia still has "imperial manners" and will never abandon its "aggressive plans." However, it is possible to defeat the "aggressor", for this Ukraine needs a strong ally. The general quoted Karl Mannerheim, who said that a strong government, an army and the unity of the people are needed for the country's prosperity, but added that in the case of Ukraine, this is not enough, without an ally Kiev will not be able to defeat Moscow.

These three conditions are probably not enough for us. We also need a strong loyal ally who will support Ukraine. Then we have every chance to win this war. There are no imperial manners, how to continue to contain them

[Fitter65]

To win the war over Russia, Ukraine needs an ally.

But this is not a 100% guarantee, for a 100% victory over Russia, Ukraine requires Russia to surrender to the mercy of the winner. This is required. The first is to declare war on Russia, but the rulers of Ukraine will not agree to this - they are weak with anus. In principle, they do not shine with intelligence either ...

[Ugochaves]

Any "sylyusnik" whom Ukraine "finds" will speak, paraphrasing the phrase from the cartoon "Mykola, I am with you forever" and send air kisses

[K-50]

"There is every chance of winning this war": Kiev called the condition for Ukraine's victory over Russia

Gentlemen-provocateurs "! Do you have a spare planet to hide from Russia when your" Wishlist "does not work?

[rocket757]

The general quoted Karl Mannerheim as saying

He spoke, spoke ... and where did he end up? Ali did not teach history at school hyne / R / al?
Empty chatter for the demand of the skakuas.

[rotmistr60]

Victor Muzhenko

And this creepy "patriot" graduated from the Leningrad VOKU, and military knowledge remained at the level of a company commander, although later he graduated from the Ukrainian Academy. Today he hates Russians more than pravosekov. It seems to me that in school for a disgusting character I got snot more than once, and hence phobias. But as a true Ukrainian, I would like a strong ally to fight Russia instead.

[Looking for]

Do you think he seriously hates Russians? Nothing of the kind. It's just that living on a general's pension after you've had many times more is very difficult. THIS IS A POSSIBILITY OF ENRICHMENT.

[JonnyT]

Yes, this is all clear, again promises of peremogs and victorious reports began to appear, against the background of echelons with tanks moving east to the LDNR, messages from relatives from the contact line that they began to shoot again.

Simply put, they powder the brains of their population

[musorg]

Others will face, but Kiev will win. The scream, however, is in the head of the byaka.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: rocket757

The general quoted Karl Mannerheim as saying

He spoke, spoke ... and where did he end up? Ali did not teach history at school hyne / R / al?
Empty chatter for the demand of the skakuas.

Aloizych said a lot to Mannerheim

[ioan-e]

I wish this "erudite" that all his aspirations come true!

[Grognag]

Not well, but how, if he quotes Mannerheim, then they have all this? Is this an article from a parallel world again?

[Sovpadenie]

In some ways he is right. Why not regard the water blockade of Crimea, the territory of Russia, as an act of aggression by Ukraine? Americans, I think, would have done so

[Kunica]

There was a country, and now a bridgehead.

[Reviews]

The general called the "water crisis" in Crimea one of the reasons for Russia's attack on Ukraine. It is this circumstance that will push Russia to implement the 2014 plans for the dismemberment of Ukraine.

Hmm ... It messed up reality and virtuality?

Tom Clancy, Red Storm Rising (1986)
A group of Muslim suicide bombers destroys the Nizhnevartovsk oil refinery. The Politburo decides to take oil from the countries of the Persian Basin, but for this it is necessary to defeat the NATO countries. There is a war between NATO and the USSR.

"You read unnecessary books as a child ...".

At the same time, the former commander-in-chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not rule out the option that Ukraine would turn into a springboard on which a clash between NATO and Russia would take place.

And what will Ukraine become after such a collision?

[Andrey VOV]

Lord ... what ... to put it mildly

[Ros 56]

There are certainly chances to defeat Russia, but there is no way to use these chances. And it is unlikely that the next 5-10 generations of those who wish will be able to use these chances. And during this time, you see, those who wish will dissolve into nothingness. Something like this.

[HOMUT1430]

"Ukraine needs an ally" - well, of course, Schaub bulo. Can’t kick it on their own. At least all of NATO, together with aliens. Bury all. This is not a jingoistic patriotism. Installation is so vital.

[Mavrikiy]

"There is every chance of winning this war": Kiev called the condition for Ukraine's victory over Russia

What about world domination, can you please? However, who am I with ..... another glass of vodka and "we will make the whole world dance the hopak!"

[Dmitry Potapov]

You might think the rest they have, "strong power", "strong army" and "unity of the people." I consider it an insult to publish the statements of idiots on the site.

[BAI]

Before commenting, commentators should decide on one question: are Russians and Ukrainians one people or different? If different, then spitting on the side of Ukraine is fully justified. If - one, then spitting in her direction is spitting in oneself.

[evgen1221]

Yes, yes, of course, an ally is necessary, and one who will fight himself and ukram mercifully will allow him to sit in the rear and at the end all the nishtyaki to appropriate for himself. Well look further.

[Dimide]

A little offtopic.
My friends and I have a tradition to periodically go to the sauna (almost according to the classics). You all know what kind of bezars are carried out after the steam room. Everyone has different political views.
So, I advised the adherents of the "Slavic brotherhood" to read the comments on the VO after the articles concerning Ukraine.
Everyone liked it

[Insurgent]

Quote: Dimid

A little offtopic.
We have with friends tradition to periodically go to the sauna (almost the classics). You all know what "besars" are conducted after the steam room. Everyone has different political views.
So, advised adherents of the "Slavic brotherhood" read comments on VO after articles concerning Ukraine.
Everyone liked it

I really, really doubt that the inveterate Svidomo can have friends - adherents of the Slavic brotherhood...

Would give them to read yours separate comments ...

[Dimide]

Unlike you "stoned", I recognize the human right to their own opinion. You should have heard our disputes and arguments

[Insurgent]

Quote: Dimid

Unlike you "stoned", I recognize the human right to their own opinion.

It is true that stubborn (in relation to me and very many other people) you put it in quotes.

For we became "uprooted" by force, in view of the reluctance of the Maidan junta to recognize the right of people to their own opinion.
Instead of reckoning with us as equals, they just decided to drive us like cattle into a common Euro-Banderlog stall.

Donbass said its categorical - NO! And to this day, you don't understand why ...

[Dimide]

Stop using phrases. (It seems that you are persuading yourself) in
Many (if not half) of you want everything to end faster and become as before (from the words of a lady who married a resident of Donetsk)

[Insurgent]

Quote: Dimid

Many (if not half) of you want everything to end faster and become as before (from the words of a lady who married a resident of Donetsk)

Half, and who counted and how ? Lady, maybe a panochka? "Resident of Donetsk" - say ? You don’t know any other places and NP in Donbass ?

[Dimide]

Can I tell you the address of residence?
Who thought, this is discussed in kitchens, between acquaintances, relatives, and I tend to trust the lady's words

[Insurgent]

Quote: Dimid

Can I tell you the address of residence?

What for ? Simply, when they write "resident of Donetsk", it raises questions akin - "I myself am the daughter of an officer from Sevastopol", as well as "discussions in kitchens", in which YOU were almost personally present, and always and everywhere

[Dimide]

Smiled at a child's joke from an employee of the MGB (there are no exes).
I am referring to her words, not his.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Dimid

I am referring to her words, not his.

Well, that's 50% ... She is "For" a return to the past, he - "No", with the addition of the fact that the woman-lady ...
This limits your "sociological cut", and Donetsk is large, and Donbass is even larger.

Moreover, there will be no return to the "domaidan", it is impossible just like entering the same river of history.

Tyu-tu, "old Ukraine" ... Everything, forget it.
And why do you need it like that? After all, you needed "modern", "European"?
Because of this, you destroyed the old Outskirts?

So - Upward A tailwind up a humpbacked mountain

[Dimide]

It is you who rotate in a specific environment and are very far from the common man in the street, who constitutes the overwhelming majority of the population.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Dimid

It is you who rotate in a specific environment and are very far from the common man in the street, who constitutes the overwhelming majority of the population.

Your "outdoor" has been assigned to me, and the "tramps" report to you about my every step, my way of life, connections, contacts, surroundings?

If not, on what basis were the conclusions drawn?

[Dimide]

It is not necessary to have seven spans in the forehead to make such conclusions, it is enough to read your non-"official comments".

[svoit]

Quote: Blacksmith 55

And this is the attitude of Khramov towards Ukrainians

The point here is not in him and not in them, but rather in us, we, Russians, do not know ourselves how to call those who live there, well, there is no consensus here. Therefore, I propose, for a start, to return to the names of the beginning of the last century, Russians live in little and New Russia, that is, we, and in Galicia - Galicians, or what is right there so as not to confuse with the inhabitants of Galich? The problem is that there are several names - according to the nation - Russian, according to the place of residence - Little Russians ..., According to political predilections - Bandera ...

[Sailor]

And it is most likely that Turkey will be this ally, and if everything goes well for them, then Poland and Romania will join.

[retrograde]

Quote: Sailor

And it is most likely that Turkey will be this ally, and if everything goes well for them, then Poland and Romania will join.

Well, the Balts, as without them, then in punitive operations

[Sailor]

Well, these are not capable of more.

[retrograde]

Quote: Sailor

Well, these are not capable of more.

They make money with it ..

[businessv]

ex-chief of the General Staff - Commander-in-Chief of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, General Viktor Muzhenko.

How can you seriously discuss the statements of this stupid person ?! Everyone knows his works in the military field!

[NF68]

Affected by the onset of spring.

[Phoenix]

"Strong and loyal ally" - who could it be? There is already one faithful one who has been spinning Ukraine for 7 years in a row. Will this work? In general, this is a pitiful sight. For 7 years they have been butting with a handful of militias and everyone is dreaming of jumping on Russia, which in several attempts the whole of Europe has not mastered at once ... Dreamers.

[retrograde]

Kiev is waiting for the coming to power like Navalny, etc. Then they will come off in punitive operations ..

[Growlers]

In the Ukrainian army, you can become a general if only a few conditions are met:
1. Slavishly worship the USA
2. To repeat the mantras of the cave Ragul nationalism
3. Be personally loyal to any oligarch.
This vocal general is 100% consistent. One god offended a typical general in peacetime, thieving, rude .... he did not give talent and ability to fight. Hence these dissolutions of chanting mantras. and suddenly they will be appointed to the "grain" position

[Dzafdet]

Talking head. Where did he study, I wonder? While the United States pulls up its troops, there will come a full ales kaput!

[Diesel 72]

the usa won't even harness for them

[sgr291158]

We'll beat you in the face and pile on your ally.

[Azimuth]

Quote: 2 level advisor

Well .. I will not argue with him .. with the current government of Ukraine, the only way to try to cope with Russia is to lie under someone ...

They so fell under whom they could, but not Ukraine, but their elite ruling the ball.

They really have a chance to win if we again have in some head of state the reincarnation of a Bear labeled with the nickname "America", or a drunkard and a mediocre conductor who decides to share with a group of accomplices in some forest or gateway a stub from our country called ReFe on free and wretched principalities.

Everything can be ... Yesterday, falling asleep in the USSR, who thought that he would wake up in the Federation or what bantustan?

[Maikcg]

Well, who would doubt that Russia will be defeated by aliens who accidentally fly past the Earth, and the Ukrainians will command and control them.

[Fedy klay]

Ukraine is 3rd world. We western people will never consider it western. Ukrinians are a useful colony in order to combat Russia for us, and to pay with your blood for that; and since ukreine got $ by our banks, the ukrainian colony will pay for ever interest rates and submission to us

[VLADIMIR VLADIVOSTOK]

How can we eat our calf and Vovka?

[Diesel 72]

Old, wrinkled senile

[evgen75]

The main thing is that the trousers do not crack...

[kaban7]

Just... All that remains is to find such a ram.

[PROVINCIAL]

Only a traitor to his people could want a war of extermination to sweep across his country. Russia will most likely survive. But what will remain of Ukraine? The bridgehead is always destroyed to zero, and preventively.