Sanctions: five years without sense and two more without use

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Sanctions: five years without sense and two more without use

Allowable loss


Closer to autumn, it will be seven years since Russia has been living and working under Western sanctions.

Comprehensive, then sectoral, even later - personal (Five-year sanctions - neither efficiency, nor quality).



In Russia, they don't like to count their damage from sanctions, but foreign experts have calculated that losses in our country's GDP from them amounted to 4,2 percent according to one method, and all 8. If in dollars, then it is 95 and 180 billions respectively.

This means that we are talking specifically about losses for the year. And in either case, Russia has enough reserves to cover such "losses" for even several years. But until now, she has preferred to accumulate them.

Yes, this is achieved, as they write, and not only in the West, "at the expense of the impoverishment of its own population." But in general, we now have to look for real poverty. As, however, and hunger.

It is clear that the general public, living in Russia, which is not too rich without that, does not feel the impact of sanctions as strongly as, for example, quarantine measures. But for the oligarchic elite, which cannot boast of special patriotism in business, sanctions are really expensive.

And although due to the pandemic, or rather, thanks to it, almost all Russian billionaires managed to add in dollar weight, they still have to worry about foreign assets. The experiments carried out by Western competitors on Deripaska's aluminum empire seem to show that much is still ahead.

Heirs and inheritance


But because of the notorious "Deripaska case", the sanctions against the Rusal group of companies hurt European industry as well. Consequently, repetition is hardly worth fearing. More dear to yourself.

And in the West they know how to count and save money, and in some ways they are much better than us. And now, throwing mud at the disgraced "national leader" who left the White House, they do not advertise too much his achievements on the fronts of the trade and sanctions wars.

And they, these achievements, are still there. To begin with, Trump did not get Biden from broken plates, but some kind of inheritance. So, the real sector of the American economy received from trade wars and sanctions, if not an incentive, then a good dollar kick for sure.

As a result, what, without the Chinese support, looked more like a remnant of a former luxury than something really worthwhile, began to stir again. But a pandemic broke out, and there was a strong economic aggravation.

First of all, oil, when it was possible to knock Russia head against Saudi Arabia, and on the ruins of the OPEC + deal to pacify the restless neighbor - Mexico, which clearly interfered with the survival of shale companies.

Trump's disruption of the Iranian nuclear deal can also be considered not only for another salvation of Israel, but also for a direct consequence of the oil madness. There, in the big oil bazaar, few people need such an unpredictable player as Iran.

Now too much comes down to information support of the sanctioning company. The public must continue to be kept in good shape so that it does not forget, even in the midst of pandemic horrors, that their governments will not let Russia down just like that.

In response, Russia is not silent either, but it also does not “concentrate” much, as it was under our so beloved Emperor Alexander III (pictured). And it is not for nothing that JP Morgan decided to remind them that their clients are ready to invest in Russian bonds.

There is no need to speak at all about permanently positive assessments of Russian prospects, which are presented by the authoritative agency Bloomberg. Such "voices" cannot be bought. The times of Prime Minister Sergei Witte are long gone.

He, too, worshiped the third of the Alexandrov on the Russian throne, and this allowed him to buy up wholesale French and German reporters in order to place Russian securities, and then sell half of Sakhalin to the Japanese through American mediation.

Sectoral


Do you remember Barack Obama's statement that “Russian economy is torn to shreds". But for some reason we weren't scared. And when he promised it, and when then reported about it.

Not ripped yet. Although it was enough for a couple of ruble devaluations. However, the second of them happened not because of sanctions, but because of a pandemic and the same oil war. The fact that oil has returned to old prices, but the ruble has not returned to old rates, means only one thing. Someone needed it.

It is unlikely that you and I, dear readers, needed it, but at prices that are not allowed to grow. What do most people care about dollar and euro rates? Moreover, the foreign countries are also closed, it seems, seriously and for a long time. Many, who only raved about it, now cannot be lured over the hill and with the cheapest euro.

And let someone say that this is bad. After all, travel abroad in Soviet times was generally considered a luxury. Almost inaccessible to anyone. Worse than diamonds and Bohemian porcelain.

Personally ... and "in bulk"


The shift to personalizing sanctions happened when it became clear that both comprehensive and sectoral ones worked poorly. It is much worse than it turned out and it turns out now to bypass the retaliatory Russian food embargoes, and what else our officials have invented “in response”.

And then, as if there was no pandemic in the yard, it happened - sort of like with the "newbie" and with Navalny. Someone, perhaps, was seriously afraid that the situation with the notorious violator of the suspended sentence would turn into something serious for Russia.

However, because of Navalny, the Russians will be responsible again personally, and even locally. That is, without going beyond the boundaries of law enforcement agencies. Those still under sanctions are unlikely to have overseas accounts and private jets.

In the best case, someone close to study somewhere or, God forbid, works. However, you have to react somehow - the West has to save face. And even the "Cossack" Borrel to send in a conversation with Lavrov (pictured).


Photo: Press Service of the Russian Foreign Ministry

But it turned out - only so that he got away home not salty, and even humiliated and insulted.

While preparing this commentary, I could not find on the Internet which of the Western politicians demonstrated knowledge of Russian sayings and compared the sanctions with firing a cannon at sparrows. And even though this was really practiced not in the West and not even in Russia, but in China, but the sparrows are so fat. We know.

But Russian gas is needed by Europe, and especially Germany, just like a nosebleed. It doesn't work with alternative energy. And on top of that, the Russian market is somehow more and more closed for goods from the West.

No, delicacies, cars and something else from technology, and even more so - products from assembly and other industries, in which the West has invested - this is no problem. But all the rest - thank you, at best, from China with its surroundings or from the "anti-Soviet" republic of Turechchina.
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  1. +45
    7 March 2021 04: 42
    But in general, we now have to look for real poverty. As, however, and hunger
    Yes Yes.
    In the IV quarter of 2020, Russians on average sent 61% of their income to payments on consumer loans, and 56% on mortgages. Such data in an interview with RIA Novosti was provided by the director of the financial stability department of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation Elizaveta Danilova
    Okay, cho. Well this is not poverty:
    Recall that earlier the Equifax credit history bureau calculated that the volume of overdue more than 90 days of debt on credit cards of Russians increased over the past year by 20% at once to 151,8 billion rubles. At the same time, in general, the volume of the portfolio of credit card debt grew in 2020 by only 9% to 957,1 billion rubles
    And this is with all kinds of credit holidays and other pseudo-help from the government.
    Do you remember Donald Trump's statement that "the Russian economy is torn to shreds"
    Hands off Ryzhev Clown! This is Chocolate talking.
    In general, an article from the series: "Hurray, hurray, we survive, despite their sanctions! The belts have been tightened, but we have an awl at hand - we can still pierce the holes in the belt and tighten the belts even tighter! But we will not rock the boat." And this despite the fact that in the same article, the author in passing (for some reason; is it scary to reveal the topic?) Notes:
    Russia has enough reserves to cover such "losses" for even several years. But until now, she preferred to accumulate them ... at the expense of the impoverishment of her own population.
    Or maybe it's enough to accumulate them? Maybe it's time to start up? Initially, it was stipulated that everything over 7 percent of GDP should be invested in the Russian economy. There are already 12! Where the fuck is investment in the economy ???
    1. -37
      7 March 2021 05: 51
      Five-year sanctions - neither efficiency, nor quality


      + another two years of fruitless efforts by the "collective West". Eventually :

      1. +14
        7 March 2021 19: 50
        Some kind of bravura article. Author, do you live in Russia? Do you go out and shop?
    2. +42
      7 March 2021 06: 38
      Quote: Dalny V
      But in general, we now have to look for real poverty. As, however, and hunger
      Yes Yes.

      21st century, and we are trying to eradicate poverty. Some kind of sur.
      1. -11
        7 March 2021 07: 13
        Quote: Malyuta
        21st century, and we are trying to eradicate poverty.

        And what do you want - capitalism, however, and with it, wealth is visible only against the background of poverty, incl. if we want to defeat poverty, first we must defeat capitalism.
        1. +39
          7 March 2021 07: 37
          Quote: Boris55
          And what do you want - capitalism, however, and with it, wealth is visible only against the background of poverty, incl. if we want to defeat poverty, first we must defeat capitalism.

          I agree that capitalism must be defeated, but I strongly apologize, only we have some kind of clumsy capitalism, absolutely thieves, clan and criminal.
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            1. +30
              7 March 2021 07: 59
              Quote: Boris55
              Do you think it is different in other capitalist countries?

              Well, excuse me, but there are no pensions of 100 euros, except for the Russian Federation.
              1. -26
                7 March 2021 08: 04
                Quote: Malyuta
                and pensions of 100 euros, except for the Russian Federation, are nowhere else.

                Are you sure about that? laughing



                Do not forget that: The number of colored candy wrappers in the wallets of citizens does not reflect their real well-being.
                1. +36
                  7 March 2021 08: 20
                  What year is your schedule?
                  The average old-age pension of non-working pensioners next year will be 17 rubles, the press service of the Ministry of Labor reports, citing the draft budget of the Pension Fund of Russia (PFR) for 443.
                  With a dollar exchange rate of 74 rubles, it would never be 285 bucks. Calculator in hand - exercise, exercise!
                  And do not forget the difference between the average and the median (they have even begun to count the consumer basket according to the median, although this has never helped the basket). The median is usually a quarter, if not more, below the average. And it reflects the situation much more accurately than the so-called. average "in the understanding of Rosstat.
                  1. +22
                    7 March 2021 10: 20
                    Quote: Dalny V
                    And do not forget the difference between the average and the median

                    The median basket began to be counted for a completely different reason. With the current rise in food prices, it would have to be raised by 15 percent. And when calculating from the median, it would cost five. They just exhausted the ability to manipulate prices by including ever cheaper products in the basket, that's all. And with a percentage of the median .... Yes, at least chew pasta - your problem. Yes
                    1. +3
                      8 March 2021 01: 06
                      The median basket was counted for a completely different reason.
                      And I'm not saying anything about the reason. They generally, no matter how you count - just to look better in their own eyes. And I just had to by the way, I mentioned it as a fact.
                2. +27
                  7 March 2021 08: 54
                  Quote: Boris55
                  The number of colored candy wrappers in the wallets of citizens does not reflect their real well-being.

                  Rave. My frozen pension every month gives Putin an income of 4 thousand rubles for his beggarly life laughing
                  And he gives my money to his friends, buries it in the sand of Syria.
                3. +26
                  7 March 2021 08: 55
                  At the current exchange rate, it turns out $ 235. And do not forget that it includes the prosecutor's and deputy's pensions and 450 pieces of Matvienko's ... The real average pension of a working person is about 12 pieces. Those. 160 bucks approximately.
                4. +6
                  8 March 2021 05: 23
                  Quote: Boris55
                  Do not forget that: The number of colored candy wrappers in the wallets of citizens does not reflect their real well-being.

                  I am very sorry, but you wrote frank nonsense and in reality your plate is bullshit.
                5. +6
                  8 March 2021 09: 48
                  you have a list of yours, take a close look at the average pension in Russia at 285 dollars = 21104 rubles laughing most not funny by accident. laughing Let's go further in the list below Russia to see the richest countries that move oil in millions of barrels over the hill and also send millions of cubic meters of gas through various northern, Turkish streams laughing In the list below Russia is a beggar Bulgaria LIVING on handouts from the European Union laughing , there is also a bankrupt country Ukraine. And you like, look here, that's how well we live, overtaking the poor countries by one two lines)))))))))))))))
              2. +2
                7 March 2021 10: 32
                Quote: Malyuta
                Quote: Boris55
                Do you think it is different in other capitalist countries?

                Well, excuse me, but there are no pensions of 100 euros, except for the Russian Federation.

                In China, there is now a pension from 60 years for men and 55 for women, yes, not everyone can receive a pension, there is poverty, there is talk about raising the retirement age, but the fact remains.
                1. +8
                  7 March 2021 10: 40
                  Quote: dorz
                  In China, there is now a pension from 60 years for men and 55 for women, yes, not everyone can receive a pension, there is poverty, there is talk about raising the retirement age, but the fact remains.

                  Unlike our "great guru", Deng Xiaoping annually reports on the successes and problems of China, and he said that in the vast majority of provinces poverty has been overcome and I see no reason not to believe him.
                  1. +8
                    7 March 2021 11: 34
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    Unlike our "great guru", Deng Xiaoping reports annually on the successes and problems of China and he stated


                    Deng Xiaoping died long ago.
                    1. +1
                      7 March 2021 11: 47
                      Quote: Eye of the Crying
                      Deng Xiaoping died long ago.

                      Ugh you request , HUNDRED PARDONOV described, it happens laughing ATP for amendment hi drinks
                      Of course Xi Jinping
                    2. +11
                      7 March 2021 13: 15
                      Quote: Eye of the Crying
                      Deng Xiaoping died long ago.

                      but his work lives on
                      1. +5
                        7 March 2021 13: 23
                        Dan was strictly for leadership rotation and time limits, and he himself resigned. Jingping canceled the time limit for himself - does it look like anything? Deng Xiaoping's case has died at least in part.
                2. -3
                  7 March 2021 14: 32
                  yes, not everyone can get a pension
                  Ma-scarlet minor detail laughing good
                3. for
                  +2
                  7 March 2021 16: 06
                  Quote: dorz
                  yes, not everyone can receive a pension, there is poverty, there is talk about raising the retirement age,

                  It's hard for you brothers, the Chinese. But you hold on.
              3. -12
                7 March 2021 17: 27
                It is necessary to compare real incomes and expenses: and Latvia's pension is about 300 €, only communal flat 180 €, loaf of bread 1,2 - 1,5, milk liter 1 €. There are no medicines cheaper than 5 €, the average price is 15 (if the doctor prescribed it with a discount on a special prescription), a visit to the family doctor is 2 €, to receive a pension at the post office 2,5, pay the bank bill 2,5, at the post office 1,2. Bus in the city 1,15, electric train 1,6. I read that in St. Petersburg there is a communal apartment for about 40 € when converting. In Germany, you will not find housing for less than 600, apart from services.
                Real life is not advertising brochures.
                You have read badly the tsrushnuyu manual, you need to be more careful, you don’t work out the silver coins!
                1. +9
                  8 March 2021 05: 28
                  Quote: Cetron
                  Real life is not advertising brochures.
                  You have read badly the tsrushnuyu manual, you need to be more careful, you don’t work out the silver coins!

                  May I ask you to at least read this notorious Tsrushnoy manual. hi
                2. -2
                  8 March 2021 12: 48
                  "You need to compare real income and expenses:" This is correct and this is the most important thing. The locals are silent about this, but the bulk does not know. For the generation "... ok Google ..."
                3. +1
                  8 March 2021 15: 59
                  Utility bills for the house 200 m2. , 4 people live
                  Gas - 90 euros
                  Electricity - 50 euros
                  Plumbing 20
                  Garbage collection - 8
                  Internet, telephone -25
                  Taxes 350 euros per year.
            2. +5
              7 March 2021 15: 44
              Quote: Boris55
              Quote: Malyuta
              only we have some kind of clumsy capitalism, absolutely thieves, clan and criminal.

              Do you think it is different in other capitalist countries?

              Yes, Scandinavia is an example, Germany, South Korea, Japan and so on.
          2. -8
            7 March 2021 09: 53
            Quote: Malyuta
            only we have some kind of clumsy capitalism, absolutely thieves, clan and criminal.

            So this is the very youth! This is how the United States started!
          3. 0
            8 March 2021 09: 44
            About capitalism, or rather market relations. In 2020, they began to give 450 thousand kopecks for the first child. Okay ? Well, definitely. But, immediately (not only for this, of course) the demand for apartments has risen, developers have inflated prices for apartments and, as a result, the purchasing power of people has remained the same, only the hucksters selling apartments have remained in positive territory.
        2. +12
          7 March 2021 09: 34
          Quote: Boris55
          if we want to defeat poverty, first we must defeat capitalism.

          capitalism is also different. Compare Norway or Finland with us
          1. -22
            7 March 2021 12: 01
            And the productivity of labor between them and ours was not compared?
            1. +13
              7 March 2021 13: 13
              Quote: tralflot1832
              And the productivity of labor between them and ours was not compared?

              The question on the backfill: how does the wages, working conditions, living conditions of an employee affect productivity? When you answer, then compare. And then you pay like the Papuans, but you want productivity like in Germany or Norway
              1. -16
                7 March 2021 13: 49
                Worked in 2010 for one bourgeois. Installation of engineering systems in a shopping center. There were two teams of 5 people in each. One local and one newcomer (though all former military), they lived in a rented apartment, in contrast
                from the locals. 6 floors, each floor 250 rubles. It seems to be equal. The military made a turnkey floor in two weeks, local in greenhouse conditions for three weeks. The military handed over 000 floors from the first check and earned 4 million rubles for five and went to their gretchens. the locals worked for me for another week, renting out their floor according to the norms, and for free. So here's the answer to your question, it all depends on the desire to work and skill.
                1. +7
                  7 March 2021 15: 39
                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  So here is the answer to your question, it all depends on the desire to work and skill.

                  you did not understand the question asked! If the salary, lack of safety equipment and normal life depends only on the employee's desire! Do you understand yourself? The employee is hired labor. It is a businessman who assigns his salary, but not an ambulance driver, a nurse in a hospital, the same nurse, elevator operator, electrician, etc.
                  1. -9
                    7 March 2021 16: 24
                    As far as I understood, you have a medical education, and I have a technical one. A contract was signed with each employee for the performance of work with his rights and obligations. Before each day, an admission order was drawn up for performing work at height with instructions and a list in a magazine. We provided tools and certified scaffolding, robes and tethering systems worked for a serious "uncle". We do not need excesses at work. So it all depends on the desire to earn money and skill. There will be no free money for anyone, work and only work. I've been with you for half an hour spent, but the money has already dripped. I can answer your demogogy for days.
                    1. +5
                      7 March 2021 16: 30
                      Quote: tralflot1832
                      I have already spent half an hour with you, and the money has already dripped.

                      And my bourgeois with such rudeness for a couple of shifts would have made a fine. So that you, shameful, would not chat on the phone during working hours.
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                    2. +27
                      7 March 2021 18: 16
                      Quote: tralflot1832
                      A contract was concluded with each employee for the performance of work with his rights and obligations.

                      You are so far removed from labor relations in the public sector that it is better for you not to argue. There is a tariff rate and no one has the right to change it. The rate is set depending on the average salary in the region. Your commercial experience in the budgetary sphere of Russia is not an example.
                      1. -11
                        7 March 2021 18: 22
                        What is the tariff rate, piecework work for a private trader. A pipe diameter per running meter is one price, another diameter is a different price, also with the installation of equipment. You have ever worked in a piecework area. Well-known specialists do not believe their word, give them a contract and they are right
                      2. +20
                        7 March 2021 18: 35
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        What is the tariff rate

                        ... ordinary
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        piecework work

                        ... at the excavator in the cemetery
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        Have you ever worked in the piecework.

                        You are obviously Chinese - you cannot read Russian
            2. for
              +4
              7 March 2021 16: 09
              Quote: tralflot1832
              And labor productivity between them and ours was not compared

              And you ask our managers.
              1. +26
                7 March 2021 18: 18
                Quote: for
                And you ask our managers.

                Don't waste time on the bourgeois! His camera will fix
            3. 0
              8 March 2021 12: 49
              But there is a difference between receiving and earning laughing
      2. +5
        7 March 2021 19: 54
        21st century, and we are trying to eradicate poverty. Some kind of sur.
        What a terrible country the USSR was, can you imagine, there was no poverty there! And the beggars earned several times more than ordinary workaholic! That is why the USSR was collapsed in order to fight poverty and master "universal human values": homosexuality, fraud, poverty, credit bondage, etc. Hurray for the democrats! Glory to capitalism! Without them, we would not have known poverty !!!!!
        1. +3
          7 March 2021 20: 06
          Quote: AKuzenka
          And the beggars earned several times more than ordinary workaholic!

          Once there was a blind beggar. I asked my mother who it was? (mother worked as a cashier for the blind). Oh, yes, his salary is higher than mine!
          1. +3
            7 March 2021 20: 14
            I will say more, in 1986 a documentary film about beggars was shown on TV. What struck him was that the beggar earned 25 rubles a day !!!!!!!! Fuck!
    3. +31
      7 March 2021 07: 50
      I see only one thing. I have not had a salary increase for three years, and inflation is not going down. No, maybe it’s growing for people in the oil and gas sector, the defense industry. But this is not all of Russia. And I also know for sure - while the fat one dries, the thin one dies.
      1. +29
        7 March 2021 08: 01
        Your salary is not raised, but our salary is not lowered, but everything else was canceled (part-time work, bonuses). You are still living well. I envy. good
        In general, regarding the sanctions that did not affect us, I received $ 2014 in 2 and now $ 000. This is how the sanctions did not affect my family.
        Well, the stash was once thick.
        1. -26
          7 March 2021 08: 52
          Quote: Storekeeper
          In general, about the sanctions that did not affect us ... in 2014

          Falling since 2014 world oil and gas prices, too .... have the sanctions against Russia affected?

          Oil 2014 - $ 108 / bbl, oil 2020 $ 46 / bbl

          Gas 2014 -$ 287/ 1000m3, gas 2020$ 40/ 1000 m3 (below cost price)
          1. +17
            7 March 2021 10: 06
            I do not work for Gazprom and the oil industry. The drop in prices for them does not affect my salary. But the devaluation of the ruble, the rise in the value of the dollar is very much concerned.
            1. -13
              7 March 2021 12: 55
              Quote: Storekeeper
              I do not work for Gazprom and the oil industry. The drop in prices for them does not affect my salary.

              you claimed to "influence" you sanctions.

              But they did not affect world energy prices, but a bunch of other factors

              But due to falling prices, they nand a THIRD decreased revenue to the State budget from oil / gas from 7,7 trillion in 2014 to 5,2 in 2020.

              State got poorer and that's already concerns all
              1. +4
                7 March 2021 14: 22
                If it "touched everyone," I would understand and forgive. But alas, we have inequality. Someone (the overwhelming majority) became poorer, but a few percent earned on it.
          2. +21
            7 March 2021 10: 21
            But ordinary people don't care how much oil and gas cost for export? What does this mean to us? Why the hell these scum in power for more than 20 years have not done anything for the economy so as not to depend on oil and gas? That's what the question is about. And what's more, why do they artificially inflate the rate of any currency in relation to our ruble. After all, their income is in foreign currency, and the people are throwing crumbs from the master's table, filling the budget with a cheap mass of rubles.
          3. +15
            7 March 2021 10: 24
            Quote: Olgovich
            The fall since 2014 in world oil and gas prices, too .... have the sanctions against Russia affected?

            For some reason, this fall did not affect the incomes of the Alekperovs and the Mordashovs. No, I understand, they are the population, and we are the electorate, but ... But the demographics from Rosstat, as it were, hints that soon the population may remain without an electorate. Yes
            1. +7
              7 March 2021 12: 38
              Quote: Lannan Shi
              But the demographics from Rosstat are hinting that the population may soon be left without an electorate.

              What is the difference for the capital of workers of which nationality to exploit? They'll bring some blacks from India, let's say. When the Tajiks are over. laughing Fortunately, such conversations are already underway. But of course this is not the same as in the spiritless west. laughing
          4. +7
            7 March 2021 14: 15
            Quote: Olgovich
            Oil 2014 - 108 USD / barrel, oil 2020 - 46 USD / barrel
            oil in 2020 - $ 46 / barrel, dollar - 74.20 rubles, oil in 2004 - 38.3 dollars / barrel, dollar - about 28 rubles. Where is the loot?
          5. -1
            9 March 2021 12: 00
            The fall since 2014 in world oil and gas prices, too .... have the sanctions against Russia affected?



            According to your own lack of goodness - we have long since gotten off the oil needle ..
            So take the portrait off the head and spit in his botox face ..
            1. -2
              9 March 2021 12: 34
              Quote: Roman070280
              According to your own unkindness, we got off the oil needle for a long time ... so take the portrait off the head and spit

              you just do not know how to understand what you have read / heard: decreased доля oil / gas in budget revenues.

              So go to the "surface designed to reflect light" and spit on that puffy face.
              1. -1
                9 March 2021 12: 44
                you just do not know how to understand what you have read / heard:


                I'm just not pretending to be a fool .. trying to justify one lie with a new lie ..

                And a swollen face from a surface designed to reflect light, into which I ought to spit, I will poke my nose into the words of his iniquity ..


                Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia managed to get off the oil needle - the country's budget and economy freed themselves from critical dependence on fluctuations in commodity prices..


                Russian President Vladimir Putin was asked if there is a positive side in 2020. Putin replied that the pandemic took all countries by surprise, the world "swept the ocean." But Russia still managed to get off the oil needle, 70% of revenues are not generated by fuel exports.
                1. -2
                  9 March 2021 13: 14
                  Quote: Roman070280
                  I'm just not pretending to be a fool


                  it’s natural: you don’t have to pretend.

                  [/ Quote]
                  [quote = Roman070280] And a swollen face from a surface designed to reflect light, into which I should spit, I will poke my nose

                  The president:
                  if in 2011 revenues from hydrocarbons were 50% of all budget revenues, then in 2021 their share will decrease to 1/3
                  So spit on the surface and knock there with your nose - maybe you will sniff an understanding
                  1. -2
                    9 March 2021 15: 22
                    it’s natural: you don’t have to pretend.

                    But you have to ..))

                    Quote: Roman070280

                    According to your own unkindness - we have been for a long time got off the oil needle ..


                    Quote: "underdog"

                    Russia nevertheless managed to get off the oil needle

                    You goggle your eyes already .. what am I writing, and that your "president" ..

                    For 20 years he has said a lot of things, so you can skip all of his other phrases .. The main thing is that my words coincided with his words .. unlike your miserable explanations ..


                    And now further (excuse me .. I really like to poke my swollen faces with my nose into facts) ..

                    Quote: "underdog"
                    freed from critical depending on from price fluctuations for raw materials ..

                    Read it well ??

                    Let's spell it again ..))
                    OS-IN-BO-DI-FOX ..
                    FROM FOR-VI-SI-MOS-TI ..
                    Do you understand ??
                    "depending on fluctuations in commodity prices .."
                    Is it coming ??

                    So this is my own
                    Quote: sad Olgovich
                    drop since 2014 in world oil and gas prices

                    you can go and show your ill-health ..

                    And he himself will spit in your swollen place ..))
                    1. -1
                      9 March 2021 20: 36
                      Quote: Roman070280
                      But you have to ..))

                      Don't try for me - your essence sticks out like that - you can't hide it. Yes
                      Quote: Roman070280
                      Prod your eyes already .. what am I writing, and what is your "president"

                      wipe yours with a needle, since you can't see.
                      Quote: Roman070280

                      For 20 years he said a lot of things, so you don't have to quote all his other phrases .. The main thing is that my words coincided with his words .. unlike your poor justification..

                      My coincided with his, in contrast to yours .... "support" lol
                      Quote: Roman070280
                      And now further (sorry .. I really like swollen faces poke your nose into the facts)

                      it is noticeable - on your swollen and swollen noselol
                      Quote: Roman070280

                      Let's spell it again ..))
                      OS-IN-BO-DI-FOX.


                      HERE !! - at the expense declines share of budget revenues from oil and gas In 2020 г-released from the addiction that until 2020 = had

                      Got it, no?
                      Quote: Roman070280
                      And he spits in a swollen place ..))

                      Yes, you already spat on yourself SO that no one needs to add. lol
                      1. 0
                        10 March 2021 09: 57
                        Mine coincided with his, unlike yours .... "oprade" lol

                        Dull Olgovich is trying to make a gallant look, looking for typos, while he himself has not learned how to insert quotes properly ..))

                        Only here everything is written above, what exactly you said.
                        Quote: sad Olgovich
                        drop since 2014 in world oil and gas prices


                        and what did your malice say:
                        Russia still managed to get off the oil needle


                        Well, they just poked you into this with a swollen place ..
                        And your subsequent words - yes .. they, quite possibly, coincided .. but who is now interested in your excuses ..))

                        it is noticeable by your swollen and swollen nose lol
                        Stop spinning in front of the mirror ..
                        As they say - come in if anything ..


                        Due to a decrease in the share of budget revenues from oil and gas In 2020, they freed themselves from addiction , which before 2020 = had


                        Yeah .. so freed from depending onthat you have to justify the fall in your own income with this exemption ..))


                        Quote: sad Olgovich
                        you have stated the "impact" of the sanctions on you.

                        But they did not affect world energy prices, but a bunch of other factors

                        But due to the fall in their prices by a THIRD, income to the state budget of the state from oil / gas decreased from 7,7 trillion in 2014 to 5,2 in 2020.

                        State became poorer and this already applies to everyone


                        Olgovich .. do you even read what you write yourself ??) Or is it easier for you to pretend to be ??)



                        shl
                        I will quote again .. just neighing ..))

                        Putin
                        freed themselves from being critically dependent on fluctuations in commodity prices.

                        Olgovich
                        due to the fall in their prices by a THIRD, the income to the state budget of the state from oil / gas decreased from 7,7 trillion in 2014 to 5,2 in 2020.

                        Olgovich
                        My words coincided with the words of Putin


                        No comment..))
                      2. -2
                        10 March 2021 10: 22
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        Putin
                        freed themselves from being critically dependent on fluctuations in commodity prices.

                        Olgovich
                        due to the fall in their prices by a THIRD, income to the state budget of the state has decreased from oil / gas from 7,7 trillion in 2014 to 5,2 in 2020.

                        Olgovich
                        My words coincided with the words of Putin

                        No comment..))


                        Can't you read Russian at all? income from OIL decreased by a third, not revenues in the whole.

                        IT'S GOT, no? No.

                        Come to the above surface and spit without stopping. lol
                      3. +1
                        10 March 2021 10: 31
                        Can't you read Russian at all?

                        Good morning to you too ..))


                        Putin
                        freed from critical addiction from fluctuations in prices for RAW MATERIALS..


                        Brat
                        due to price drops by THIRD decreased income to the state budget from OIL / GAS from 7,7 trillion in 2014 to 5,2 in 2020.



                        As you chew - then swallow ..))
                      4. -3
                        10 March 2021 10: 47
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        Putin
                        freed themselves from the critical dependence on fluctuations in the prices of RAW MATERIALS ..


                        Brat
                        due to the fall in their prices by a THIRD, income to the state budget of the state from OIL / GAS has decreased from 7,7 trillion in 2014 to 5,2 in 2020.

                        AGAIN it didn’t come to you lol : income from OIL have dropped in the budget over the years, and revenues budget-grown.

                        PS come again and repeat the procedure and with your nose there, with your nose, until there is no porridge. lol
                      5. +1
                        10 March 2021 10: 59
                        , budget revenues have grown.

                        And on Mars, the new Rover travels .. But what does it matter if we say that:

                        income from OIL dropped in budget over the years


                        freed themselves from critical depending on price fluctuations for RAW MATERIALS..


                        So which of these two is breaking ??
                        The question is rhetorical ..))





                        Threat ..

                        -24
                        Quote: Storekeeper
                        In general, about the sanctions that did not affect us ... in 2014

                        On the drop since 2014 in world oil and gas prices -Also .... have the sanctions against Russia affected?



                        At first, Olgovich convinced everyone that the standard of living did not fall because of sanctions, but because of the fall in raw material prices (although Putin does not agree with him, and would spit for such words in a swollen place), and after Olgovich writes that
                        , budget revenues have grown.

                        But if budget revenues have grown ... then why did the standard of living still fall ??)
                        And why then Olgovich, when discussing the fall in living standards, still refers to the fall in oil / gas prices ..))
                      6. -3
                        10 March 2021 12: 45
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        OILWAY income fell in the budget over the years


                        freed themselves from the critical dependence on fluctuations in the prices of RAW MATERIALS ..

                        .So which of these two is breaking ??
                        The question is rhetorical ..))

                        If oil revenues have fallen, but budget revenues have not, then this is getting off the needle.

                        Of the two above, the third one is the one who asks rhetorical questions.

                        So repeat the procedure with a reflective surface
                        lol
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        And why then Olgovich when discussing the fall living standards)


                        I have not a word about the "standard of living", my phrase:
                        "The state has become poorer and this is already concerns all.
                        And so it is everywhere.


                        Budget revenues did NOT fall due to the decline in the share of the oil sector, but could be MORE (and the state is richer), if the oil industry survived.

                        Got it, no? No.

                        PS repeat therapy again. lol
                      7. 0
                        10 March 2021 12: 58
                        If oil revenues have fallen, but budget revenues have not, then this is getting off the needle.


                        Olgovich continues to bang his head against Upsten ..))

                        The fall since 2014 in world oil and gas prices, too .... have the sanctions against Russia affected?

                        Oil 2014 - 108 USD / barrel, oil 2020 - 46 USD / barrel

                        Gas 2014 - 287 USD / 1000 m3, gas 2020 - 40 USD / 1000 m3 (below the cost price)

                        Hang this text on the wall you are banging against .. because since we "got off the oil needle" - then it does not make any sense ..))) What difference does it make to us what the oil was and became .. because we have income the budget even grew ..))


                        I have not a word about the "standard of living", my phrase:
                        "The state has become poorer and this already concerns everyone.


                        They poke his nose like a playful kitten in pissing slippers .. and he wriggles further like a snake in a frying pan ..))

                        Everyone in the state has become poorer - but this is "not about the standard of living" ..)) Here Olgovich just doesn't know how to get out of it ..))


                        Budget revenues did NOT fall

                        The state has become poorer and this already concerns everyone

                        Olgovich breaks through the wall with his swollen place ..))
                      8. -3
                        10 March 2021 13: 45
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        Olgovich continues to bang his head against Upsten ..))

                        nope, I continue to knock with this extra appendage, which for some reason grew near the room Yes
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        after all, our budget revenues have even grown.

                        they could be BIGGER (since non-oil revenues were also growing) and a richer country. THIRD time does not reach it is an alarming sign.
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        They poke his nose like a playful kitten in pissing slippers .. and he wriggles further like a snake in a frying pan ..))

                        you live in them lol
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        Everyone in the state has become poorer

                        certainly: for they could have been richer.

                        Be careful not to explode with cognitive dissonance.

                        Therefore - lol repeat the procedure
                      9. 0
                        10 March 2021 13: 59
                        they could be MORE (since non-oil revenues were also growing) and the richer country. THIRD time does not reach it is an alarming sign.

                        And you do not knock on the wall with a swollen place, and do not argue about what could have been more .. or less .. No one argued with this, what could have been there, or could not have been .. because this does not apply to the topic, and to nobody not interested in how you try to jump off ..

                        Much more interesting is this nonsense of yours ..

                        Budget revenues Did not fall

                        State got poorer and this already applies to everyone

                        Be careful not to explode with cognitive dissonance.
                        I'm already getting used to you ..))



                        Everyone in the state has become poorer

                        certainly: for they could have been richer.

                        The swollen one is completely crazy ..))
                        They became poorer not because they could be richer .. but simply became poorer .. Is it difficult for an inflamed brain or what ??)


                        -----------------------------------------------------------------

                        When people write that the sanctions have affected their lives, Puffy says that it's not about the sanctions, but about the falling price of raw materials, and gives its cost ..

                        Then, for some reason, he argues with me about the words of Putin, which I quoted ..

                        According to your own ill-luck, we have long since gotten off the oil needle.
                        .

                        supposedly, I do not understand it ..))
                        you just do not know how to understand what you have read / heard: the share of oil / gas in budget revenues has decreased.


                        And then he suddenly repeats the same words himself ..
                        If oil revenues fell, but budget revenues did not, then this is getting off the needle.




                        At the same time, returning to the beginning of the conversation about the impact of sanctions on the standard of living, it is still not clear .. how, in the opinion of Puffy, it happened that we got off the needle, budget revenues even increased .. and the standard of living fell ..))
                        It turns out that it's all the same about the sanctions ?? Or what else, Puffy ??)
                        Well, push the thought ..))
                      10. -3
                        10 March 2021 15: 01
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        ... With this no one argued that there could be, or could not ..,.

                        they explain the basics to you, the ignorant.
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        Is it difficult for an inflamed brain or what ??)

                        are you asking me? fool Why do I need to know about the problems of your sore brain ??

                        Look around and understand where you are lol

                        you are dunked in FACTS. That do not reach you.

                        .
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        At the same time, returning to the beginning of the conversation about the impact of sanctions on the standard of living, it is not clear ... how, in the opinion swollen it happened that we got off the needle, budget revenues even increased .. and the standard of living fell .. So, it's all the same about the sanctions ?? Or what else, Swollen???)))
                        )

                        You talk to yourself, yes. lol .

                        Income by 2020 increased in relation to by 2010-What they dunked you into.

                        . On 2020 same year budget expenses increased in relation to the planned indicators for 2020 due to the pandemic (amounted to 116% percent of the plan), and Incomes for the same reason-decreased (made up 91% from the plan).

                        And yes, the world prices for meat, sugar, etc. butter, etc., have been growing for 8 months already (UN FAO)

                        PS go to the mirror and repeat the procedure
                      11. +4
                        10 March 2021 15: 16
                        they explain the basics to you, the ignorant.

                        They fuck him in public all day, but instead he "explains the basics" to me here ..)) Go on, okay ..))


                        are you asking me? fool Why do I need to know about the problems of your sore brain ??

                        Look around and understand where you are lol

                        you are dunked in FACTS. That don't reach you
                        Three phrases .. none in essence .. that's all you can "dip" into ..
                        Oh yes .. in essence, there is nothing to answer ..))

                        But I easily poke you one more time ..))


                        I have not a word about the "standard of living", my phrase:

                        "The state has become poorer and this already concerns everyone.




                        Budget revenues did NOT fall

                        The state has become poorer and this already concerns everyone



                        You talk to yourself, yes. lol

                        Well, they fuck you, and you can't even answer .. what can you do ..))


                        Revenues by 2020 increased in relation to 2010
                        If they have grown - why then
                        The state has become poorer and this already concerns everyone
                        Nonsense again ..))

                        Budget expenditures for 2020 increased in relation to the planned indicators for 2020 due to the pandemic
                        Ha ..)) What have you been thinking for so long ?? I could write about the pandemic right away .. they say, it's all because of it ..))
                        Although no .. it will not work .. the pandemic is only half a year like .. And the decline in living standards at least from the age of 14 ..
                        You wrote yesterday:
                        you have stated the "impact" of the sanctions on you.

                        But on world energy prices they did not influence, and a bunch of other factors

                        But due to the fall in their prices by a THIRD, income to the state budget of the state from oil / gas decreased from 7,7 trillion in 2014 to 5,2 in 2020.

                        The state has become poorer and this already concerns everyone
                        So the excuse about the pandemic will not fail ..

                        And yes, the world prices for meat, sugar, etc. butter, etc., have been growing for 8 months already (UN FAO)
                        Wake up, you are seeding .. Prices have been rising for at least 6 years already ..))



                        Now let's repeat the lesson ..

                        At the same time, returning to the beginning of the conversation about the impact of sanctions on the standard of living, it is still not clear .. how, in the opinion of Puffy, it happened that we got off the needle, budget revenues even increased .. and the state became poorer ..
                        It turns out that it's all the same about the sanctions ?? Or what else, Puffy ??)))


                        I understand that you have already talked so much that it is simply impossible to clearly answer .. But I can’t just leave you lowered .. get up, pull yourself together, rub down .. and write something with dignity ..
                      12. -1
                        10 March 2021 15: 36
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        fuck "..)) Go on, okay ..))

                        Quote: Roman070280
                        fuck,))

                        Quote: Roman070280
                        , you hear.

                        Quote: Roman070280
                        omitted .. ..


                        belay I had no idea that I was so much with you did you there too ... it hurts lol Yes

                        Who has what hurts, he talks about that. (C)

                        In this tone, talk to their wife, disgrace ...
                      13. +1
                        10 March 2021 15: 45
                        with his wife,

                        This is which Olgovna ??)

                        disgrace

                        They asked you as a man
                        get up, pull yourself together, wipe down .. and write something worthily on the merits ..
                        Instead, you swallow everything over and over again ..


                        Shl .. From now on you will be a little smarter .. before you write nonsense, and engage in nonsense .. See you soon ..))
                      14. -1
                        10 March 2021 16: 03
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        with his wife,
                        This is which Olgovna ??)

                        Your wife is Roman 07 lol
                        Quote: Roman070280

                        You as a man requested

                        I do not communicate with cocks: tie yourself a knot
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        Instead, you swallow everything over and over again ..

                        I feed - over and over again Yes
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        Shl .. From now on you will be a little smarter ....))

                        You are not threatened lol
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        before you write nonsense, and engage in nonsense.

                        Better to learn the basics and facts taught to you. Yes
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        See you soon..))

                        Is free! Yes
                      15. +2
                        11 March 2021 09: 36
                        Free! yes

                        Hello Olgovna ..
                        You will be free when I decide ..))

                        And as long as you are trying to cover up Putin's nonsense that we got off the oil needle with your nonsense, you will have to endure ..
                      16. -3
                        11 March 2021 09: 51
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        Hello Olgovna. You will be free when I decide ..

                        scatter,. Cock, under the bunk

                        You are told, I don’t communicate with roosters. Doesn't even get it? fool
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        You will be free when I decide ..))

                        And as long as you are trying to cover up Putin's nonsense that we got off the oil needle with your nonsense, you will have to endure ..


                        facts, figures and percentages numbered cock was held on the lips and tore all the holes lol ... and it only expires with pus and prym, unable to respond with ANY of his own. ...

                        Wash him, wash his mouth off and take his place under it, otherwise it stinks ... negative
                      17. 0
                        11 March 2021 09: 56
                        facts, figures and percentages


                        Olgovna .. so I can wait for some facts with figures from you ??)
                        Why, instead of answering, you just grumble like a girl with low social responsibility ??
                        Wipe your lips and answer clearly - have we got off the oil needle or not ??
                      18. -2
                        11 March 2021 10: 18
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        Olgovna .. so I can wait from you at least some facts with figures ?? girl with low social responsibility ?? )

                        To the rooster, all numbers are indicated in the comments above, but, alas, he only knows how to think to the worker's mstm girl SNO. Therefore, the delay in development (understanding).
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        Why are you instead of answering bye ??
                        Wipe your lips, have we got off the oil needle or not ??

                        The rooster has not yet wiped his mouth of the pus and pus to ask. Stinks is it really incomprehensible?
                      19. 0
                        11 March 2021 10: 34
                        all numbers are in the comments above


                        As expected - you cannot give any numbers, and you continue to flaunt, wiping your lips with thoughts of roosters ..))

                        But I still will not deviate from the topic, and I will repeat the question ..

                        Why, instead of answering, you just grumble like a girl with low social responsibility ??
                        Wipe your lips and answer clearly - have we got off the oil needle or not ??
                      20. -2
                        11 March 2021 10: 38
                        Quote: Roman070280

                        As expected - you cannot give any numbers, and you continue to flaunt, wiping your lips ..))

                        The Rooster DOES NOT have a single number, I have EVERYTHING at the top.

                        Quote: Roman070280
                        But I still will not deviate from the topic, and I will repeat the question ..

                        Wipe your lips and answer clearly - have we got off the oil needle or not ??

                        The rooster has not yet wiped his mouth from the rum and pastry shops to ask.
                        . Stinks after all-March to him under the bunk!
                      21. +1
                        11 March 2021 10: 41
                        The Rooster DOES NOT have a single number, I have EVERYTHING at the top.
                        You are completely crazy .. then you write that you do not have a single number, then you say that everything is at the top ..))

                        I didn’t want to shy away from the topic, but I have to remind you that at the top you did a very fluid job .. and that is precisely why now you are afraid to return to the issue under discussion ..))

                        But I still will not deviate from the topic, and I will repeat the question ..

                        Why, instead of answering, you just grumble like a girl with low social responsibility ??
                        Wipe your lips and answer clearly - have we got off the oil needle or not ??
                      22. -3
                        11 March 2021 10: 52
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        You are completely crazy .. then you write that you do not have a single number, then you say that everything is at the top ..))

                        the numbered ignorant Rooster does not have ANY number, except for the smelly ma, I have -cm. higher
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        I didn’t want to shy away from the topic, but I have to remind you that at the top, you did it fluently .. and and.))

                        lol I have to remind you that obdlvsya numbered Rooster did not give ANYTHING, no numbers, no percent, he just ... ZERO. lol
                        Quote: Roman070280

                        Why, instead of answering, you just grumble like a girl with low social responsibility ??
                        Wipe your lips and answer clearly - have we got off the oil needle or not ??

                        the answer is known:
                        numbered Rooster has not yet wiped his mouth from the food and pastry shops to ask. Got it, didn't it?
                        .
                      23. -1
                        11 March 2021 11: 03
                        Olgovna is stubbornly afraid to return to her nonsense, and writes anything, just not to remember her shame anymore ..))

                        But I will not deny myself the pleasure of returning to the topic, and dunk it one more time ..))

                        sad Olgovich
                        drop since 2014 in world oil and gas prices

                        Putin
                        Russia still managed to get off the oil needle

                        The fact of Olgovich's nonsense with Putin has been recorded.


                        More ..
                        sad Olgovich
                        Due to a decrease in the share of budget revenues from oil and gas In 2020,freed from addiction which until 2020 = had

                        sad Olgovich
                        you have stated the "impact" of the sanctions on you.

                        But they did not affect world energy prices, but a bunch of other factors

                        But due to falling prices for them, income decreased by a THIRD to the state budget from oil / gas from 7,7 trillion in 2014 to 5,2 in 2020.

                        The second fact of Olgovich's nonsense has already been recorded with himself.


                        Well, the most cheerful nonsense of Olgovich
                        sad Olgovich
                        income from the OILYAN fell in the budget over the years, and budget revenues increased.

                        sad Olgovich
                        The state has become poorer and this already applies to everyone



                        But Brahunka has nothing to say to this .. because he again silently swallows the fact that he was poked with his nose in his own words ..))
                      24. -1
                        11 March 2021 11: 25
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        his nonsense, and writes anything

                        Voooot!

                        You, ZERO, in your many-page nonsense here, do not have a soul, at the same time, NO ONE-INO-GO comment with numbers, percent and this is in the subject of .... the economy. ... belay fool lol Only ... a foul "smelling" fatty fluid flows from them, but overflowing your ..... blue fantasies negative

                        And now-: see the comment from Today, 09:51 am and-go out!

                        And then I’m a greedy man such- communicate ...
                      25. 0
                        11 March 2021 11: 36
                        do not have for the soul ANY ONE-INO-GO commentary with numbers, percentages, and this is in the subject of .... the economy. ...


                        But in my heart I have a LOT of comments with your nonsense .. in the topic about the impact of sanctions ..))

                        sad Olgovich
                        drop since 2014 in world oil and gas prices


                        Putin
                        Russia still managed to get off the oil needle


                        The fact of Olgovich's nonsense with Putin has been recorded.

                        sad Olgovich
                        Due to a decrease in the share of budget revenues from oil and gas In 2020, they freed themselves from the dependence that they had until 2020


                        sad Olgovich
                        you have stated the "impact" of the sanctions on you.

                        But they did not affect world energy prices, but a bunch of other factors

                        But due to the fall in their prices by a THIRD, income to the state budget of the state from oil / gas decreased from 7,7 trillion in 2014 to 5,2 in 2020.


                        The second fact of Olgovich's nonsense has already been recorded with himself.

                        Well, the most cheerful nonsense of Olgovich
                        sad Olgovich
                        income from OIL-YEAR fell in the budget over the years, and budget revenues increased.


                        sad Olgovich
                        The state has become poorer and this already concerns everyone


                        This is how we whip rude bastards on the cabbage soup .. just poking them into our own words ..))



                        sad OlgovichAnd then I’m a greedy man


                        But Brehunka has nothing to say to this - he has a bastard ..))
                        Therefore, he will silently swallow again that he was poked with his nose at his own words ..
                      26. +1
                        11 March 2021 10: 01
                        unable to respond with ANY of his own. ...


                        We take Olgovna by the mane, tilt it, and nose - razzzz ..)))
                        I have not a word about the "standard of living", my phrase:

                        "The state has become poorer and this already concerns everyone.

                        Brat .. your words ??)

                        Now she will silently swallow .. we again by the mane .. and more razz ..))

                        Budget revenues did NOT fall

                        The state has become poorer and this already concerns everyone


                        Oops .. and there is nothing to argue with a nonsense .. Since all his words are written down ..))


                        And in conclusion:

                        Returning to the beginning of the conversation about the impact of sanctions on the standard of living, it is still not clear .. how, according to Puffy, it happened that we got off the needle, budget revenues even increased .. and the state became poorer ..
                        It turns out that it's all the same about the sanctions ?? Or what else, Puffy ??)))

                        And again, Brehunka has nothing to answer .. because he can only write about roosters and cages .. and call it percent ..))
                      27. 0
                        10 March 2021 15: 49
                        And yes, the world prices for meat, sugar, etc. butter, etc., have been growing for 8 months already (UN FAO)

                        Do you write it down as a plus or a minus? )))
                      28. 0
                        10 March 2021 12: 17
                        the income from the OIL YEAR has fallen in the budget over the years, and the budget revenues have grown

                        You present it with some kind of achievement and benefit.
                        Try to understand that increased budget revenues are devaluation of the ruble (I am modestly silent about taxes and excise taxes). Which automatically pulls and an increase in expenses in rubles. Therefore, incomes seemed to have grown, but there was no budget surplus. Moreover, if you look at the list of the budget for 2018, you will see that the budget surplus this year for some reason coincided with a jump in oil and gas revenues.
                        Moreover, in addition to just a deficit, the budget directly allocates a "non-oil and gas" deficit.

                        Now, if we left the dependence, then this parameter would not grow.
                      29. +1
                        10 March 2021 13: 09
                        Try to understand


                        He understood everything a long time ago .. you can't be so real .. swollen ..))
                        He just likes being dunked in his own bullshit ..

                        When people write that the sanctions have affected their lives, the swollen one says that it is not about the sanctions, but about the falling price of raw materials, and gives its cost ..


                        Then, for some reason, he argues with me about the words of Putin, which I quoted ..

                        According to your own lack of goodness - we have long since gotten off the oil needle ..

                        supposedly, I do not understand it ..))
                        you just do not know how to understand what you have read / heard: the share of oil / gas in budget revenues has decreased.


                        And then he suddenly repeats the same words himself ..
                        If oil revenues fell, but budget revenues did not, then this is getting off the needle.



                        At the same time, returning to the beginning of the conversation about the impact of sanctions on the standard of living, it is still not clear .. how, in the opinion of the swollen one, it happened that we got off the needle, budget revenues even increased .. and the standard of living fell ..))
                        It turns out that it's all the same about the sanctions ?? Or what else, Puffy ??)
                      30. -3
                        10 March 2021 13: 56
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Try to understand that the increased budget revenues are a consequence of the devaluation of the ruble (I am modestly silent about taxes and excise taxes). Which automatically pulls and an increase in expenses in rubles. Therefore, incomes seemed to have grown, but there was no budget surplus.


                        do not try to understand, just memorize: there was no surplus for due to unforeseen increased costs (pandemic) and reduced revenues due to the same (lockdown).
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Therefore, incomes seemed to have grown, but there was no budget surplus.

                        income compared to the year before last fell, which is natural, but in general, over the 10-year period, increased three times.
                      31. +1
                        10 March 2021 15: 24
                        no surplus due to unforeseen increased costs (pandemic)


                        Swollen since 14 has a pandemic ??
                        Then it is not surprising that where everyone is discussing a drop in income, he is trying to look for a surplus.


                        But yesterday he wrote about another reason ..

                        you have stated the "impact" of the sanctions on you.

                        But they did not affect world energy prices, but a bunch of other factors

                        But due to the fall in their prices by a THIRD, the income to the state budget of the state from oil / gas decreased from 7,7 trillion in 2014 to 5,2 in 2020.

                        The state has become poorer and this already concerns everyone


                        The swollen one continues to tear patterns ..))


                        So still .. We choose the options that led to a decrease in the standard of living ..
                        1. Sanctions
                        2. Falling oil prices
                        3. Pandemic

                        Well, the sanctions, according to Swollen, are useless ..
                        Oil prices are not important, because they got off the needle, and the budget even grew.
                        So everything is due to a pandemic .. Found it out ..))
                      32. 0
                        10 March 2021 15: 43
                        And the actual EXPENDITURE exceeded the budgeted level of expenses.

                        there was no surplus due to unforeseen increased costs (pandemic) and reduced revenues due to the same (lockdown).

                        1) And it so happened that the excess of 16% practically coincides with the difference between the forecasted dollar rates set in the budget and the actual ones after the March jump in 2020. And before that, it coincided that the dollar rate correlates with the oil rate, which collapsed in March. On which we have no dependence wassat
                        2) Wait, let's give flies separately, cutlets separately - non-oil and gas revenues have become MORE compared to 2019 (13486,9 against 12264,5 billion rubles). It was only oil that was reduced, and, in the law on the budget for 2020, it is directly stated what they were counting on "including the projected amount of ADDITIONAL oil and gas revenues of the federal budget in the amount of 2 thousand rubles" ... That is, they planned to return to the level of 2018. But ... they did not guess, oil did not grow, but collapsed. And, as soon as revenues from hydrocarbons decreased (and not non-oil and gas), so immediately the deficit. But we got off the needle. wassat
                        3) Of course, you can blame anything on a pandemic, but the costs on it exceeded the initially budgeted 338,3 billion rubles. on health care, which is only 10,7% of the total excess of actual costs over planned.
                        4)
                        the share of non-oil and gas budget revenues has grown THREE TIMES over 10 years, oil has no such growth at all.

                        And the fact that 1000 rubles in 2021 in terms of purchasing power are equal to 495,45 rubles in 2010, where are you taken into account?
                        If we take GDP in 2010 and 2019 (I do not have 2020), reduced to 2010 prices (source - knoema database), then GDP increased by 15,58%. That is, 16% more added value was produced in a fixed national currency, but budget revenues miraculously increased by 200%. It doesn't work that way. Just 200% is for a cheap ruble.
                        You ignore the fact that there are more rubles in the budget, because now there are GENERAL more of them than in 2010, disproportionate to goods - the ruble is lowered to make up the budget - there is even a point there is "financing the DEFICIENCY due to the EXCHANGE difference"
                        In 2010, the money supply is 15,3 trillion. rubles, and in 2020 - 51,7 trillion. rub.
                        You are silent about the influence on the "growth" of incomes of the growth of domestic excise taxes (which were collected 8 times more than in 2010), fines, fees (the same Plato increased by 22,5%), taxes (seemingly minuscule in + 2% to VAT actually rises to 9 percent, as it winds up on all components of the manufacturing-distribution chain). If at the expense of this "get off the needle", then it does not bring anything good for the economy.
                      33. -3
                        10 March 2021 16: 20
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        that, the dollar rate correlates with the oil rate, which collapsed in March. On which we have no dependence


                        The share of the oil industry remained, accordingly, some kind of dependence remained. BUT less due to the growth of the non-oil sector
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        But we got off the needle.

                        got off-up to 1 / 3, as said
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        And the fact that 1000 rubles in 2021 in terms of purchasing power are equal to 495,45 rubles in 2010, where are you taken into account?

                        but the fact that income growth in three times more?
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        If at the expense of this "get off the needle", then it does not bring anything good for the economy.


                        Incomes related to domestic production have almost quadrupled in 10 years.
                      34. +1
                        10 March 2021 18: 24
                        but the fact that income growth is three times greater?

                        Yes, it can be done at least 23 times more by the methods by which this was done, I wrote for the wall above - with an increase in GDP by 16%, budget revenues by 200% in national currency can only be increased by devaluing the national currency and increasing business fees and the population by the missing 184%. There are no miracles.
                        Incomes related to domestic production have almost quadrupled in 10 years.

                        And why should it be otherwise, the same factors are at work - the depreciation of the ruble and an increase in business fees.
                        Industrial production index 2019 to 2010 - 131%
                        Agricultural production index 2019 to 2010 - 127%
                        Do you understand, Andrei, what's the catch? We did not begin to produce 3-4 times more compared to 2010, but only 1,3 times, and at the same time we collect 3-4 times more than then. You yourself do not have the question of how this can be?
                      35. 0
                        11 March 2021 09: 45
                        I painted for the wall above


                        That is exactly what it is ..)) Our lie, either on the forehead or on the forehead ..
                      36. 0
                        11 March 2021 09: 44
                        Brat got off-to 1/3, which is what it said


                        Russian President Vladimir Putin said that Russia managed to get off the oil needle - the country's budget and economy freed themselves from critical dependence on fluctuations in commodity prices..
                  2. 0
                    9 March 2021 15: 42
                    if in 2011 revenues from hydrocarbons accounted for 50% of all budget revenues, then in 2021 their share will decrease to 1/3

                    The decrease in the share of income does not mean that we were able to cover this difference in income at the expense of non-oil and gas revenues. And just that due to the fall in oil prices, we now have a budget deficit for this difference. Well, the VAT contributed with its 2% and the increase in excise taxes - this should be considered for the success of the economy or not, am I confused?
                    1. -3
                      9 March 2021 20: 44
                      Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                      if in 2011 income from hydrocarbons accounted for 50% of all budget revenues, then in 2021 their share will drop to 1/3

                      Nefarious: Decline share of income does not mean that we were able to cover this difference in income due to non-oil and gas revenues

                      Write in Russian, if something are trying say
                      1. +1
                        10 March 2021 08: 51
                        Are you confused by the phrase "non-oil and gas income"? This is the official term used by the ministry of finance in the work of the ministry. For example, in the list of the budget.

                        HERE !! - Due to a decrease in the share of budget revenues from oil and gas

                        You write nonsense.
                        2011 2019
                        Oil and gas revenues, billion rubles 5641,8 5235,2
                        Non-oil and gas revenues, billion rubles 5725,9 13486,9
                        Budget surplus (+) / budget deficit (-), billion rubles +442,0 -4099,4
                        And this is still a forecast deficit in the list, the actual one turned out to be 4709 billion rubles.
                        No one has freed himself from any addiction. By what means? Tell me the groups of goods, the export of which has replaced the export of hydrocarbons.
                      2. -3
                        10 March 2021 09: 06
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Are you confused by the phrase "non-oil and gas income"?

                        I am confused, I repeat once again, your non-Russian language: what is the share, what is the income?
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        You write nonsense.
                        2011 2019

                        you are writing frank nonsense: oil and gas revenues did not grow, and non-oil and gas revenues -rose... The share of the oil industry decreased
                        .
                        which is written.
                      3. 0
                        10 March 2021 09: 28
                        you are writing frank nonsense: oil and gas revenues have not grown, but non-oil and gas revenues have grown.

                        How nonsense can simply ministry figures be? Only if they are wrong. Are you saying they are wrong? If not, then what's nonsense? After all, with the redistribution percentage Nobody argues here about the share in the budget. But from this it is impossible to draw such a conclusion.
                        HERE !! - Due to a decrease in the share of budget revenues from oil and gas in 2020 -freed from addiction which until 2020 = had

                        They argue precisely with this - the budget deficit due to cheap oil is NOT an exemption from dependence, but its confirmation. So we freed ourselves from dependence that in 2020 we sell oil and petroleum products in tons more than in 2011 lol
                        Again. How did you get free? Tell me the groups of goods, the export of which has replaced the export of hydrocarbons.
                      4. -1
                        10 March 2021 10: 06
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        How crazy can it be

                        nonsense, your "nonsense"
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        They argue precisely with this - the budget deficit.

                        fool WHERE do I have the word deficit? fool

                        It was about SHARES of oil and non-oil revenues.

                        And share Non-oil revenues rose, as you (finally got it) understood. Accordingly, the share of oil revenues also decreased, which reduced the dependence

                        Which is what was said. Income items - see Ministry of Finance, dunno.
                      5. 0
                        10 March 2021 10: 22
                        WHERE do I have the word deficit?

                        You ripped out the word, the full phrase is like this
                        They argue with this - the budget deficit due to cheap oil NOT free from addiction, but its confirmation.

                        We are talking about dependence on oil and gas revenues. Yes?. Yes. The deficit is a consequence of the decline in the share of oil and gas revenues. You will learn to understand causal relationships and such questions will disappear from you.
                        It was about SHARES of oil and non-oil revenues.

                        And the share of non-oil revenues increased, which you (finally, it came) understood. Accordingly, the share of oil revenues has also decreased.which reduced addiction

                        Which was said.

                        You are simply discouraging with your pearls.
                        How does a decrease in the share of oil revenues reduce dependence if it leads to a budget deficit?
                        For the third time, tell me the groups of goods, the export of which has replaced the export of hydrocarbons.
                      6. -2
                        10 March 2021 10: 36
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic

                        You ripped out the word, the full phrase is like this
                        They argue precisely with this - the budget deficit due to cheap oil is NOT an exemption from dependence, but its confirmation.

                        We are talking about dependence on oil and gas revenues. Yes?. Yes. The deficit is a consequence of the decline in the share of oil and gas revenues.

                        deficit is costs, execution of expenses - 22 million rubles or 116,1% of the total the volume of federal budget expenditures approved by the Federal Law “On the Federal Budget for 2020.

                        You will learn to understand causal relationships and such questions will disappear from you. lol .

                        tie yourself in a knot:
                        And the share of non-oil revenues increased, which you (finally, it came) understood. Accordingly, the share of oil revenues also decreased, which reduced the dependence

                        Which was said.
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        For the third time, tell me the groups of goods, the export of which has replaced the export of hydrocarbons.

                        you ALREADY told you where to go and what to watch.

                        again didn’t get it?

                        you have already pulled up with your lack of understanding.
                      7. 0
                        10 March 2021 10: 45
                        deficit is spending

                        lol
                        Not. A budget deficit is an EXCESS of the expenditure side of the budget over the revenue side of the budget.
                        And here is what you wrote
                        execution of expenses - 22 million rubles, or 116,1% to the total the volume of federal budget expenditures approved by the Federal Law "On the Federal Budget for 2020

                        what is it for? What did you want to say in the highlighted words? belay
                        you ALREADY told you where to go and what to watch.

                        You said to look "income items in the Ministry of Finance". I see confirmation of my words that the decline in the share of oil and gas revenues has caused an increase in the budget deficit. Does it mean "freeing from addiction"? fool
                      8. -2
                        10 March 2021 12: 16
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        Not. Budget deficit is OVERRIDE expendable part of the budget over the revenue part of the budget.

                        will it come to you when, what without costs- there is no deficit, what have you been told about? AND actual EXPENSES exceeded planned budget expenditure level.
                        .
                        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                        I see confirmation of my words that the decline in the share of oil and gas revenues has caused an increase in the budget deficit.

                        you look in the book, you see, um, as always with you. lol the share of non-oil and gas budget revenues increased by THREE TIMES over 10 years, oil has similar growth and in no trace of it. (percent)


                        Did it get there? No.
                      9. +1
                        11 March 2021 09: 49
                        you ALREADY told you where to go and what to watch.

                        again didn’t get it?

                        you have already pulled up with your lack of understanding.


                        Poor guy .. they all pulled you up ..))

                        Answer already ..
                        Returning to the beginning of the conversation about the impact of sanctions on the standard of living, it is still not clear .. how, according to Puffy, it happened that we got off the needle, budget revenues even increased .. and the state became poorer ..
                        It turns out that it's all the same about the sanctions ?? Or what else, Puffy ??)))
          6. 0
            9 March 2021 12: 02
            Oil 2014 - 108 USD / barrel, oil 2020 - 46 USD / barrel

            Gas 2014 - 287 USD / 1000 m3, gas 2020 - 40 USD / 1000 m3 (below the cost price)


            It's also funny when all sorts of nonsense compares Putin to Yeltsin ..
            Like, how bad it was with the drunk, and how it became better under the tsar .. they say - it is his merit !!
            But, for some reason, they don't want to remember about the oil price.
        2. +19
          7 March 2021 09: 16
          Quote: Storekeeper
          In general, regarding the sanctions that did not affect us, I received $ 2014 in 2 and now $ 000. This is how the sanctions did not affect my family.

          And what have the sanctions to do with it? The main and most terrible sanction for the people is our leadership.
          1. +12
            7 March 2021 10: 08
            Unfortunately, you cannot argue with you here.
        3. -21
          7 March 2021 10: 26
          [quote =Storekeeper] In general, about the sanctions that did not affect us, I received $ 2014 in 2 and now $ 000 [/ quote]

          Move to Russia - we have salaries, pensions and prices in rubles. In general, this is provocative stupidity - to compare pensions in dollars (pounds, euros) - then compare prices and other expenses. And if it's really bad, change your job or place of residence.
          1. +18
            7 March 2021 12: 40
            Quote: pyagomail.ru
            And if it's really bad, change your job or place of residence.

            Still offer to change the planet, fucking demagogue.
            1. -12
              7 March 2021 12: 51
              [quote = IS-80_RVGK2] Another planet to change offer, fucking demagogue.[/ Quote]
              Mutually. No need to answer - they won't get paid.
        4. +10
          7 March 2021 10: 39
          Yes, and about part-time jobs. They also covered it up. We used to go out on our day off, but now we can't. Savings on the salary. The second job helps, of course. But only will she be tomorrow?
      2. +17
        7 March 2021 08: 20
        Three years did not raise salaries ...
        you can only be envied. I have been at work for 10 years already, for sure, there is no question of any increase.
    4. +30
      7 March 2021 08: 32
      But in general, we now have to look for real poverty. As, however, and hunger.
      After this paragraph, I stopped reading the article. I wonder what the author considers real poverty and hunger? A whole stratum of the population should sit on the porch with an outstretched hand and engage in cannibalism?
      It is not enough for the author that in many families buying a new pair of shoes is already a question? That the old people "graze" in flocks near the garbage cans?
      I wonder if he will understand us and whether he will be ashamed of this propaganda libel ?!
      1. +26
        7 March 2021 09: 04
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        I wonder if he will understand us and whether he will be ashamed of this propaganda libel ?!

        For two days, two Kremlin articles, in the style of litter-tv "how life is good in Russia."
        Apparently, the upper cockroaches burns strongly, if they have passed into the phase of hyper-propaganda.
        They worry about palaces, yachts and money stolen from the people. The heat has gone, it's not over yet.
      2. -12
        7 March 2021 17: 15
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        A whole stratum of the population should sit on the porch with an outstretched hand
        Or stand in line for work
        Or queuing up for free food
        To a free dentist
        And they are not because of the boundless love for freebies. If it costs about $ 1000 to pull out a tooth. You can find the vaccination queues yourself.
        1. +2
          8 March 2021 17: 16
          The queues for "free food? Well, firstly, how do you know the reason why they stand in line for this very food, maybe after a typhoon or a tornado. Secondly, you can see that the poor are starving, over their bellies and fat asses, well and thirdly, in Russia, where have you seen that AT ALL such a quantity of free food is handed out like this? Personally, I have never met.
      3. -11
        7 March 2021 19: 10
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        and what does the author consider real poverty and hunger?

        as I understand it here is a military patriotic site and Stalin is wearing it and this is a normal price 7 million did not survive industrialization and 600 thousand to the wall for the resolution 7/8 at 37-38 m. but no one here from the locals wanted to get into that happy time.
        and now the empire is expanding, they have returned their own, and you have here Yaroslavna's crying .... you want to warm up the belly as in the old days, but no one wants to switch to macaroshki ... what are you Stalinist-Leninists? be consistent otherwise some hypocrisy
        1. -7
          7 March 2021 23: 07
          Quote: kitty
          as I understand it here is a military patriotic site

          Recently, it has been rather pro-communist, at least judging by the pros and cons to the comments.
    5. +12
      7 March 2021 09: 14
      Quote: Dalny V
      Or maybe it's enough to accumulate them? Maybe it's time to start up? Initially, it was stipulated that everything over 7 percent of GDP should be invested in the Russian economy. There are already 12! Where the fuck is investment in the economy ???

      "There the king of kashchai wasted away over gold" ...
      The fact is that the current so-called rulers consider the country as their property, so there is no need to wait for any investments.
      Anyway, who can say with certainty whether these funds exist today.
      The country was taken away from us, then mineral resources, industry, land and future, and now they have come for our souls and lives.
    6. Zan
      -16
      7 March 2021 09: 52
      Why didn't you write about Leshka to be released?
      1. +13
        7 March 2021 10: 18
        Quote: ZAN
        Why didn't you write about Leshka to be released?

        If you turned to me, then I inform Lyokha who is not ideologically close to me, but I am for the freedom of all political prisoners.
        Shl. I urge all kremlebots who want to challenge the political component of Lyokhina's imprisonment not to litter the branch with idle talk. laughing
      2. -10
        7 March 2021 17: 23
        Quote: ZAN
        Why didn't you write about Leshka to be released?
        Lyokha was already well paid for his imprisonment in cryptocurrency, and if it comes out, they can also check who drowned for him, got into the case, but did not receive help. So, it is no longer relevant.
        1. +26
          7 March 2021 18: 21
          Quote: sniperino
          Lyokha was already well paid for his imprisonment in cryptocurrency

          Did you personally sign the check?
          1. -6
            7 March 2021 23: 34
            Quote: Overlock
            Quote: sniperino
            Lyokha was already well paid for his imprisonment in cryptocurrency
            Did you personally sign the check?
            A parcel with bitcoins was sent by the Russian Post. Where: to the zone. To: Sisyanu. It seems to have confused nothing. Didn't it get there, or what?
    7. -5
      7 March 2021 13: 10
      Quote: Far In
      But in general, we now have to look for real poverty. As, however, and hunger
      Yes Yes.
      In the IV quarter of 2020, Russians on average sent 61% of their income to payments on consumer loans, and on mortgages - 56%... Such data in an interview with RIA Novosti was provided by the director of the financial stability department of the Central Bank of the Russian Federation Elizaveta Danilova
      Okay, cho. This is not poverty.

      Credit "solaris" and apartments - this is the last horseradish without salt, aha.

      And this despite the fact that in the same article, the author in passing (for some reason; is it scary to reveal the topic?) Notes:
      Russia has enough reserves to cover such "losses" for even several years. But until now, she preferred to accumulate them ... at the expense of the impoverishment of her own population.
      Or maybe it's enough to accumulate them? Maybe it's time to start up? Initially, it was stipulated that everything over 7 percent of GDP should be invested in the Russian economy. There are already 12! Where the fuck is investment in the economy ???


      With a budget of 100 trillion and a pension fund of 8 trillion, budget revenue is 20 trillion. As for me, it's high time to spend, but we have a budget rule, its mother.

      On the other hand, for example, the state personally forgave me 140 sput. taxes in a pandemic. Honestly - thanks. It felt good.
      1. +3
        7 March 2021 13: 36
        Quote: CheeRock
        Credit "solaris" and apartments - this is the last horseradish without salt, aha.


        And billionaires are getting richer. What people are complaining about is not clear.
    8. +2
      8 March 2021 01: 19
      I can add one. Russia still cannot catch up with e-mail sales figures. Tools in pieces 2014. You can only say that the sanctions do not work ..
  2. +27
    7 March 2021 04: 49
    "What do the majority care about the dollar and euro rates? Moreover, the foreign countries are closed, it seems, for a long time."
    What does the trip abroad have to do with it? During this time, everything has risen in price in stores at least 2 times. At the same time, salaries remained at the level of 2014, and for many, they even decreased. Oh, yes, they came up with the salary. It is enough for a patriot to see Putin on TV.
    1. +15
      7 March 2021 06: 12
      Uh-huh. Here, for example, everything is fine, so the zomboyaschik is constantly broadcasting the growth of the average salary, and that almost everyone gets the coveted "papyatsot". Now there is silence, somewhere it tells from Belstat that the average is of the type at the level, but the prices rushed up, and the REAL salary rushed down. But on average, everything is "ok" request
      As a result, the state lives in its own invented world of statistics and subscripts, and the people in their own, real world. Some kind of "matrix" turns out ... what
      1. +3
        7 March 2021 06: 51
        Quote: Rurikovich
        As a result, the state lives in its own invented world of statistics and subscripts, and the people in their own, real world. Some kind of "matrix" turns out ...

        I am very sorry, but many of our fellow citizens live in this invented matrix.
        1. +6
          7 March 2021 10: 29
          Quote: Malyuta
          but many of our fellow citizens live in this invented matrix

          Well no. Rather, while the state still has enough resources to provide a pleasant life for certain strata. And representatives of these strata are ready to defend the good master to the last, who generously sends them scraps from his table. Yes
          1. +23
            7 March 2021 18: 22
            Quote: Lannan Shi
            while the state still has enough resources to ensure a pleasant life for individual strata.

            The food supply is narrowing, there will soon be fewer people who want to love HIM
      2. -25
        7 March 2021 07: 18
        Quote: Rurikovich
        somewhere from Belstat

        You use statistical data and immediately prohibit the state from doing it:
        Quote: Rurikovich
        the state lives in its own fictional world of statistics

        You, as they say, either take off the cross or pull on your panties. laughing
    2. +11
      7 March 2021 06: 39
      Quote: From Tomsk
      It is enough for a patriot to see Putin on TV.

      And pacify.
      1. +5
        7 March 2021 14: 48

        For a long time I could not hold back and screened ... I think on the topic and someone else was talking about myrrh and so on
    3. +11
      7 March 2021 07: 12
      Yes, it's easy to even buy something from spare parts for a car or some other equipment, it still grows in price upwards, because it is bought from abroad. And salaries are not growing. And if before the salary was at the rate of about $ 600, now how much? Around 470. Life is harder and harder.
      1. +14
        7 March 2021 07: 39
        Quote: Note
        And salaries are not growing. And if before the salary was at the rate of about $ 600, now how much? Around 470. Life is harder and harder.

        Do not be sad, it will be even worse.
        1. +2
          7 March 2021 10: 26
          There is less and less sadness. Another feeling grows stronger
      2. +6
        7 March 2021 09: 33
        Quote: Note
        And if before the salary was at the rate of about $ 600, now how much?

        Don't worry, you have plenty of room to fall. Last time they paid me about 150 bucks.
        1. +2
          7 March 2021 10: 28
          And how to feed the family? This is the edge already. But we don't even live in Africa, it's even warm there.
          1. +6
            7 March 2021 10: 35
            Quote: Note
            And how to feed the family?

            But in no way. I will see this figure that he paid me 11 thousand for a month, I will make him a disabled person. He then received 300 thousand for the order, as I found out. Here I am looking for him on the sly, disappeared somewhere, lousy louse.
        2. +24
          7 March 2021 18: 26
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Last time they paid me about 150 bucks.

          The local "smart guy" advises you
          Quote: tralflot1832
          it all depends on the desire to earn money and skill.
          1. +1
            7 March 2021 18: 35
            Quote: Overlock
            The local "smart guy" advises you
            Quote: tralflot1832
            it all depends on the desire to earn money and skill.

            You know, oddly enough, everything was very good for me in the 90s. And I did not care about the grannies that because of the empty bottle the cosma was torn out to each other. And when they started to destroy the factories, where I worked ... So I looked around.
    4. +12
      7 March 2021 08: 57
      Quote: From Tomsk
      During this time, everything has risen in price in stores at least 2 times.

      Only in the last month by 7%. With each trip to the store, there is more and more desire for someone "good health" and a gun carriage with fanfare
      1. 0
        9 March 2021 10: 34
        only after the gun carriage nothing will change
  3. 0
    7 March 2021 04: 53
    I was amused by the sanctions for chemical weapons that were destroyed with great haste in Russia a few years ago ... where were you in a hurry?
    The United States still has not destroyed its stocks of chemical weapons and now has the audacity to accuse Russia of this ... there is no evidence of its use by Russia, but there are sanctions.
    It reminds of the situation with Iraq during the times of Saddam Hussein, when Iraq was presented with false accusations (Powell's test tube) and on this basis it was smashed to smithereens.
    Now, instead of Hussein, there will be Putin, and instead of Iraq, Russia, instead of Powell's test tube, the Berlin patient Navalny ... we were assigned to the role of the victim.
    And in this situation, you can't behave like a victim ... make excuses or apologize, bewildered, regret ... generally cry.
    The great Kim showed how to deal with the United States ... you have to run into the US State Department with the same impudence ... they don't like it very much ... and when they are rebuffed, they quickly turn back and go to negotiations.
    I do not understand in this regard Putin and the Russian government ... they greatly disappointed me.
    1. +2
      7 March 2021 09: 00
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      sanctions for chemical weapons that were destroyed with great haste in Russia a few years ago ...

      For Americans' money laughing So they went berserk for cutting their dough
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Great Kim

      Several years ago rice was asked around the world to feed the country. Do not worry, only 2 comrades scare the World with an atom and both of your idols
      1. -3
        7 March 2021 13: 39
        Quote: Silvestr
        For Americans' money

        Russia spent on fulfilling its obligationsand more than 330 billion rubles... Despite the economic hardships, Almost all funds necessary for the implementation of the treaty on the destruction of chemical weapons, were allocated from the federal budget(C)

        Aamers, the Germans helped only at the beginning of 2000 and sawed money for themselves:
        Kiriyenko: “As for the Americans, there are endless political discussions with them. Kiriyenko explained that only 30 percent of the funds allocated by the United States reaches Russia, and 70 percent "is being eaten by American organizations, who control and inspect the provision of this assistance "
        Quote: Silvestr
        Do not worry, only 2 comrades scare the World with an atom and both of your idols

        I don't think the USA is his idol:
        The US authorities consider it possible to use nuclear weapons in order to reverse the course of conflicts with the use of conventional weapons. This follows from the new doctrine of the Pentagon's nuclear operations... The document was released on the website of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff 2019

        The United States has always admitted the possibility of using nuclear weapons first, as the nuclear doctrine of the United States states 2010 g ..
  4. +5
    7 March 2021 05: 56
    Closer to autumn, it will be seven years since Russia has been living and working under Western sanctions.
    You might think that the history of Russia began in 2014 ...
    The first sanctions against the Moscow state were imposed by the West under Ivan the Terrible
    1. -1
      7 March 2021 06: 19
      Quote: svp67
      You might think that the history of Russia began in 2014 ...
      The first sanctions against the Moscow state were imposed by the West under Ivan the Terrible

      But this does not mean that for 400 years the Muscovy, the Russian Empire, the USSR, Russia is modern - like a whipping boy, all the time under the pressure of sanctions.

      There have been many periods in our history when we ourselves have successfully introduced, if not sanctions, then the troops ...
      1. 0
        7 March 2021 06: 39
        Quote: Profiler
        But this does not mean that for 400 years the Muscovy, the Russian Empire, the USSR, Russia is modern - like a whipping boy, all the time under the pressure of sanctions.

        But that's the way it is. It is easier to count the years when there were no such sanctions. And at the expense of modern Russia, since its very formation it has been under them.
      2. +3
        7 March 2021 16: 53
        Quote: Profiler
        When we ourselves, successfully introduced, if not sanctions, then the troops ...

        a million spectators in gray overcoats led to the Crimean War and tragic consequences for the Republic of Ingushetia.
        Nikolai himself died from sad news from the front.
        Threats and ultimatums did not help. On the contrary, they forced France to enter into an alliance with their worst enemy.
        Forceful methods are rarely good.
  5. +1
    7 March 2021 06: 47
    America will never impose sanctions on goods that are essential for the U.S. economy; in the future, sanctions will be announced to satisfy seizure politicians. Where to get away from them?
  6. +2
    7 March 2021 07: 22
    Everything is correct. There have been no real sanctions yet. As they produced weapons on bourgeois machines with bourgeois tools in the Russian Federation, they do it. However, despite the lack of sanctions, the Russian economy is in [REDACTED]. she only lacks sanctions for complete happiness.
    1. +10
      7 March 2021 09: 03
      Quote: professor
      There have been no real sanctions yet

      According to the classification discussed yesterday, this has not reached the real patriots. They shout that they "held out", but did not notice that we were just standing and even backing away
    2. -6
      7 March 2021 10: 34
      Why are you trying to come to us at all? If only to bite more painfully. And it's so sickening without you.
      1. -4
        7 March 2021 10: 35
        We Russian people like Jews have never offended, but everything is the same
    3. -1
      7 March 2021 10: 53
      And what does "real sanctions" mean? The ones that will lead to the third world?
      1. +5
        7 March 2021 11: 32
        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
        And what does "real sanctions" mean? The ones that will lead to the third world?

        There will be no world war over sanctions. Real sanctions are, for example, disconnecting from Swift, a ban on the supply of machine tools and tools, restrictions on the export of hydrocarbons and further on the Iranian, Libyan or Iraqi list.
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        2. -9
          7 March 2021 12: 08
          And how are you different from Navalnenko? It was necessary under the USSR to take from those leaving for the land the promised payment for education.
          1. +3
            7 March 2021 15: 40
            Quote: tralflot1832
            And how are you different from Navalnenko.

            I don’t know who you mean?

            Quote: tralflot1832
            It was necessary under the USSR to take from those leaving for the land the promised payment for education.

            They took it. Just disgraced the whole world and did not stop anyone.
        3. 0
          8 March 2021 10: 03
          Quote: professor
          disconnecting from Swift,

          Europe will pay for gas in cash ...
          Quote: professor
          ban on the supply of machines and tools
          to whom will the EU and the US come true this? To Africa? fool
          Quote: professor
          restriction in the export of hydrocarbons
          - The EU will have to buy more expensive US gas. Moreover, in the event of a decrease in competitors, the price of gas from the United States will creep or even jump up. for the EU..

          Who will suffer the most from this? It will be bad for us, maybe very bad ..
          How much worse the EU will be - well, God knows
          This will definitely not add stability to the world economy.
    4. -3
      7 March 2021 23: 10
      Quote: professor
      Everything is correct. There have been no real sanctions yet.

      And in how many years will they appear?
  7. +15
    7 March 2021 07: 23
    No time to swing ... we still have a lot of work to do ... together ... well-being ...
    This is not 7 years of international sanctions, but the third decade of the struggle of the Kremlin regime with the welfare of the population of Russia.
    1. +15
      7 March 2021 07: 44
      Quote: 7,62x54
      This is not 7 years of international sanctions, but the third decade of the struggle of the Kremlin regime with the welfare of the population of Russia.

      I strongly apologize, but they are fighting not only with the welfare of the population, but are already carrying out a real genocide and have already achieved obvious successes, Russia is rapidly dying out, both physically and spiritually.
  8. -18
    7 March 2021 07: 26
    Already 7 years under an avalanche of sanctions. They used to be, but not in that amount. But so far I do not see that we have begun to "correct" in the opinion of the West ... We learned a lot about ourselves, it turns out that the defense industry used components of a potential enemy. especially in the navy. The sanctions forced us to reconsider relations with partners (the Russian language is rich, now this word sounds like a curse). It turns out that they only need us as a sales market, and no equal relations. And even better, before what to do, you have to ask they have permission .. Of course we are developing, but a breakthrough growth in labor productivity has not happened. We are too far behind modern technologies in the 90s. There is no qualified labor force, just the kids of the 90s entered an active working age. But they have no desire to go to the machine tool. Yes If we compare the photographs of the 80s from the USSR with those of the day, on a working day, it is striking that before the streets were almost empty and now there are a lot of loitering. There is good money. Sales markets are needed for development, but they are not given to us with great willingness. Also the Sputnik 5 vaccine is an example.
    1. +23
      7 March 2021 07: 47
      Quote: tralflot1832
      .Of course we are developing,

      I am very sorry, but I would like to know where we are developing?
      1. -15
        7 March 2021 08: 58
        In a topic close to me, the fleet. How many shipyards have been raised from the state of being sold for scrap? Now they are faced with the problem of personnel, young people did not go to the machine. And it is not necessary to say that everything is built from imports. In the USSR, ships where it was possible to earn money were equipped with imported Knowledgeable people with nastalgia recall the Vyartsilya Marine diesel engines, the cold of the Sabroe installation. Although I have no complaints about our "meat grinders" of the 5th VC of the Kazan Refrigeration Equipment Plant, to ditch it, you have to try very hard.
        1. +8
          7 March 2021 10: 08
          Quote: tralflot1832
          the youth did not go to the machine.

          Didn't it, or doesn't it?
          1. -11
            7 March 2021 10: 56
            It doesn't work, the machine is not prestigious now. There is a large deficit of labor force, even good salaries do not help.
            1. +9
              7 March 2021 11: 08
              Quote: tralflot1832
              Large labor shortage, even good salaries do not help.

              What, in the ass, are good salaries? 15 thousand, when in the morning you warm up the machine with a cutter from ice, and then you stand on it for the whole shift, when steam comes from the hands from the emulsion, and your feet are frosty?
              1. -13
                7 March 2021 11: 14
                This is where you have it. As far as I know, precision parts are turned at a certain temperature. And for M 17 bolts, your conditions will suit.
                1. +8
                  7 March 2021 11: 17
                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  This is where you have it.

                  And this is the case in the Tula region. And it's not about bolts, we bought Chinese bolts.
              2. -8
                7 March 2021 11: 28
                At the arms factories in Tula?
                1. +1
                  7 March 2021 12: 14
                  Quote: tralflot1832
                  At the arms factories in Tula?

                  No, one bourgeois in the region.
              3. +6
                7 March 2021 11: 44
                good salaries? 15 thousand
                And when I once noticed that the standard of living in the Czech Republic is higher than in the Russian Federation, they began to minus me and persuade me (more minus) wassat .
                1. -7
                  7 March 2021 12: 22
                  The world has seen it, I don’t envy others at all, you have to work everywhere and everywhere your troubles! hi
                  1. +2
                    7 March 2021 12: 27
                    you have to work everywhere
                    This is clear. But for 15 thousand (for your rubles) I have to work for a day and a half at a comparable level of prices for basic needs.
                    1. -6
                      7 March 2021 12: 42
                      When we worked under charter for an English fishing company, the salaries were the same as yours. By the way, we need to see if the mighty fleet appeared in Ullapool and Lerwick to help the English fishermen. Putin. (cool play on words without Putin, no matter how, in their case, the accent on the last syllable) Now the herring is coming.
                      1. +2
                        7 March 2021 12: 50
                        As far as I know, comrades from the EU countries are always happy to come and "help" with the catch in the British waters - the Spaniards and the Poles cannot be discouraged. Even Brexit doesn't stop them.
                      2. -4
                        7 March 2021 12: 57
                        How they were going to be fed up with such a feeder. It seems like there was an information to drive these friends with patrol ships of His Majesty's fleet.
                      3. 0
                        7 March 2021 12: 58
                        It was not possible to fully defend the therweds after Brexit.
                      4. -3
                        7 March 2021 13: 19
                        Yes, they do it in a brazen way, but you have Norwegians in your sidekicks. So they allow you to fish even between England and the Hebrides. The Russians in the Norwegian zone catch. They saddled such a good joint.
                      5. +1
                        7 March 2021 13: 47
                        Quote: tralflot1832
                        When you worked under freight for an English fishing company, you also had the same salaries.


                        But you worked for them. Probably, their salaries were better than at home.
                      6. -5
                        7 March 2021 14: 14
                        The prices for fish are different several times, the owner "cried" but forked out.
                      7. +1
                        7 March 2021 14: 39
                        Why is Russian Pacific salmon sold in British supermarkets as frozen fillets labeled "Made in China"? (8.4 lbs per kilo fillet).
                      8. -4
                        7 March 2021 14: 46
                        A marketing move, Norway is closer. Although we also learned how to grow fish on the Kola Peninsula. China does not buy fish from us now, we have managed to find a covid on the packaging. A complete ban on fish. Maybe last year's fish, because there has been fishing in the Far East since spring. You don’t understand what the Chinese are poisoning you with. Better take a Norwegian one, although the same stuff is artificial.
                      9. -1
                        7 March 2021 14: 52
                        This has been the case for the last 8 years (probably more, but I haven't bought it before). And now there is. This is not from farms - the one sold raw is noticeably more expensive (and mostly Scottish, Norway is rare). So they write - Pacific wild salmon, made in China request .
                      10. -3
                        7 March 2021 15: 07
                        At one time, wild salmon ate this heaven and earth. Far Eastern one can also buy it wild. Catfish and perch with macroruus hooked on halibut. I don’t remember how they are called in English transcription, but blue whiting, a cat's joy, is called "horse head." artificially grown is subject to buckets of growth hormones and antibiotics. I advise you to buy all wild, the same herring is healthier than artificially grown salmon. I forgot, mackerel "heart fish" knowingly the Japanese buy up the lion's share of the North Atlantic mackerel.
                      11. +2
                        7 March 2021 15: 12
                        For me, the best fish is pork Yes I've caught so many fish in Latvia that it's time to kneel in front of the fish, and not in front of a black criminal fellow .
                      12. -4
                        7 March 2021 15: 18
                        Pork is out of competition, the more it is cheaper than fish, except for macrorus. There, it seems, at the place of death of this negro, another was shot to death. And then the police, the police - the place is just damn there.
                2. +4
                  7 March 2021 12: 23
                  Quote: Bolt Cutter
                  And when I once noticed that the standard of living in the Czech Republic is higher than in the Russian Federation, they began to minus me and persuade me (

                  Uh-huh. I know a bunch of people who do not have the Internet. From the word "absolutely". There are many professional warriors here, they are well paid. Once I went to see a friend, he is thin, receives a pension of 15 thousand, and in the kitchen there is a mordovorot, his younger brother, an officer of the VKS, from the BAO, as the youngest told me, he has a allowance - 220 thousand, and he also complains about something there.
    2. +6
      7 March 2021 08: 23
      now this word sounds like a curse)
      no this is a favorite word you know who. Because for him the West is partners, unlike the people.
  9. -11
    7 March 2021 07: 47
    Quote: Malyuta
    I agree that capitalism must be defeated, but I strongly apologize, only we have some kind of clumsy capitalism, absolutely thieves, clan and criminal.

    You will be surprised, but this is ordinary capitalism. There is no other thing in nature. IMHO
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  11. 0
    7 March 2021 08: 08
    It's like watching ... While the fat one dries ... the thin one must get fat.
    1. +4
      7 March 2021 09: 22
      Quote: iouris
      It's like watching ... While the fat one dries ... the thin one must get fat.

      Swell?
      1. +9
        7 March 2021 10: 48
        Quote: Stroporez
        Swell?

        Yeah. Count me, on Monday I was tried for going to the store without a mask. Judge - you can't go around on a paravoz, she ate such a duckling that it's disgusting to look at her. She's already swollen on the government grubs.
        1. +8
          7 March 2021 11: 08
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Count me, on Monday I was tried for going to the store without a mask. Judge - you can't go around on a paravoz, she ate such a duckling that it's disgusting to look at her. She's already swollen on the government grubs.

          Nifigase !!! Some kind of game, and how much was stripped?
          Have you seen the "face" of the Minister of Labor and SOCIAL PROTECTION? Duc, enjoy! The main labor worker of the country.
          1. +8
            7 March 2021 11: 13
            For 3 thousand. Next time, she said, if you get caught - 15 thousand. I got on the bus from the court like a fool, a full bus, all without masks, I alone as the most law-abiding citizen. Ugh, eklmn, no words.
            1. +4
              7 March 2021 11: 24
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              Ugh, eklmn, no words.

              So, I yelled at MSE, like a cut about this "face", when they, according to the "unofficial order of the ministry", tried to remove my pennies from me for my heroic youth, they defended me forcibly, threatening them with personal judgments.
              Shl. Incidentally. , transport in our Hero City has risen in price by 25%, no one has any travel privileges, neither children, nor disabled people, nor old people.
              And how is it in Stalinogorsk?
              Estimate, Basmach is your land, and I am his body. pro sowed crying
              1. +2
                7 March 2021 11: 35
                Quote: Stroporez
                transport in our Hero City has risen in price by 25%,

                The same bullshit. From March 1st.
                Quote: Stroporez
                And how is it in Stalinogorsk?

                Yes, since the nineties I have not heard about any benefits.
                Quote: Stroporez
                Count up, Basmach is your grain,

                Which one lived near the Elegance? Well, about ninth school? I drunk something like that at his house, about 15 years ago. Have not seen for a long time.
  12. +7
    7 March 2021 08: 19
    To say that sanctions are just us is complete nonsense. When the press secretary of the President of the Russian Federation or a representative of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation comment on the next, they say the same thing - what kind of bad partners these are, and deep regrets about what happened. No really! Sanctions are the result of this foreign and domestic policy of the Kremlin and the White Russian Federation for twenty years at the helm.
    1. +3
      7 March 2021 09: 29
      Quote: ximkim
      Sanctions are the result of this foreign and domestic policy of the Kremlin and the White Russian Federation for twenty years at the helm.

      sanctions were imposed in 2014
      1. +2
        7 March 2021 10: 03
        Yes ... in 2014, but foreign policy led to the introduction of sanctions, and then there was a reaction to the sanctions, which opened up an abscess in the economy.
      2. -2
        7 March 2021 14: 06
        Quote: Silvestr
        sanctions were imposed in 2014

        С 1992 of the year the US imposed sanctions against Russian companies: on May 13, 1992, the US government imposed sanctions against the state organization Glavkosmos

        In 1998, the All-Union Scientific Research Institute of Technical Physics (Chelyabinsk-70), the Scientific Research Institute of Experimental Physics (Arzamas-16) and all organizations, institutes and centers of the RF Minatom system were included in the US blacklist.

        In January 1999, the Scientific Research and Design Institute of Power Engineering NIKIET was added to the list (accused of cooperation in the production of heavy water).

        On February 25, 1999, the United States imposed sanctions against the Russian companies Europalas-2000, Research Institute "Graphite"

        On April 2, 1999, 2002, the United States imposed sanctions against the Tula Instrument Design Bureau, the Klimovsk Central Research Institute of Precision Engineering (TsNIITochmash) and the Volsk Mechanical Plant

        On April 3, 2004, the United States imposed sanctions against the Federal State Unitary Enterprise "Omsk Engine-Building Enterprise named after Baranov"

        On July 15, 2004, the United States imposed sanctions against the Altai federal research and production center, accusing it of violating the missile technology nonproliferation regime.

        On September 23, 2004, the United States announced the imposition of sanctions against the Russian company Khazra Trading,

        On July 28, 2006, two-year sanctions were imposed against Rosoboronexport and the Sukhoi company.

        On January 5, 2007, official Washington issued an order on the imposition of sanctions by the George W. Bush administration for two years against three Russian companies and organizations - Rosoboronexport, the Tula Instrument Design Bureau and the Kolomna Machine Building Design Bureau.

        On October 23, 2008, the US government imposed new sanctions on the Russian company Rosoboronexport and all of its subsidiaries.

        National Security Adviser to the President of the United States John Bolton
        US applied a number of sanctions against Russia after the "Russian-Georgian war" 2008

        etc.
  13. +6
    7 March 2021 08: 21
    If the sanctions were real long ago, our bourgeois would have surrendered. Correctly write about the Treaty of Raphael, broke the blockade.
    1. D16
      +2
      7 March 2021 10: 32
      If the sanctions were real

      If they stop selling what we need, then why are we going to sell them what they need?
      They write correctly about the Treaty of Rappal; they broke the blockade perfectly.

      In those distant times, the world could easily do without Russian gold and grain.
      And what is now, this is clapping your palm in one place.

      This is from the need and to eat the fish ...
      1. -1
        7 March 2021 16: 00
        If they stop selling what we need, then why are we going to sell them what they need?
        We really need what we need, starting from the tubers of flowers.
        In those distant times, the world could easily do without Russian gold and grain.
        Only the RSFSR, could not do, at that distant time from the technology of equipment. My great-grandfather, even in the Republic of Ingushetia, bought something cheap and reliable.
        This is from the need and to eat the fish ...
        It’s hard for them to work without raw materials, but they can do without Russian resources at this time, but Russian ones are cheaper.
        1. D16
          +2
          7 March 2021 16: 16
          We really need what we need, starting from the tubers of flowers.

          That’s a basic necessity. lol
          Only the RSFSR, could not do, at that distant time from the technology of equipment.

          The meaning of the sanctions is to deprive countries of loans, technologies and equipment.
          It’s hard for them to work without raw materials, but they can do without Russian resources at this time, but Russian ones are cheaper.

          The past winter has settled the issue. And the price of raw materials and energy carriers strongly affects the competitiveness of industries.
  14. +10
    7 March 2021 08: 27
    Here is an example of sanctions.
    “Following the proposal of paid check-in at airports, Aeroflot thought about increasing the fuel surcharge on domestic flights, which is included in the total ticket price. Aeroflot will raise the cost of the fuel surcharge from March 10 for all carriers of the group (Rossiya, Aeroflot "And" Aurora "), except for the low-cost airline Pobeda. The increase will affect only domestic flights"

    "Tariffs for parking will change from April 5 on almost 200 sections of Moscow streets"

    Almost every day there are such sanctions for the people, but what does the West have to do with it? Awesome article. Six months before the elections. but already on the VO in all there is agitation.
    1. +16
      7 March 2021 09: 33
      Quote: Gardamir
      Six months before the elections. but already on the VO in all there is agitation.


      The refrigerator will defeat the TV and the authorities understand this. Hence the election scam and no choice election
      1. -2
        7 March 2021 10: 59
        In order to at least change something, it is necessary to boycott the elections with protest actions. This is certainly not enough, but in reality it will not be possible to do more so far. Not so bad with the people.
  15. +9
    7 March 2021 08: 47
    "Hurray" -article! The author believes that economic expediency will prevent new sanctions. Far from it! Sanctions sanctions strife
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    1. +12
      7 March 2021 10: 09
      Quote: Undecim
      It's time to introduce a new section on the site, something like "Our loyalty", since publications of this kind become systematic, daily.

      Colleague! Excellent comment, furiously plus. + 100500
      Shl. Comrade, I was not mistaken when I voted for you as the best commentator. good drinks
      1. +11
        7 March 2021 10: 16
        Something turbopatriots are inactive today, maybe they are still recuperating after yesterday's race under Mashkov?
        1. +7
          7 March 2021 10: 29
          Quote: Undecim
          Something turbopatriots are inactive today, maybe they are still recuperating after yesterday's race under Mashkov?

          It seems that the most rabid scrapoturbopatriots, in view of the absence of yesterday's release of the evening M., cannot decide on the agenda, and in many regions they start selling the bayar from 12 to noon. laughing
          1. +2
            7 March 2021 17: 43
            Quote: Stroporez
            and in many regions, they start selling bayar from 12 noon

            Yeah. In Nizhny Tagil - from 10-zero-zero. And here - from 14 o'clock in the afternoon. Lawlessness, we must complain to the UN.
      2. +5
        7 March 2021 22: 31
        It is time to introduce a new section on the site - "Our loyal opinion", since publications of this genre acquire a systematic, daily character.
        The authors are trying so hard to pull the owl of reality onto the globe of propaganda that they lose touch with this very reality and give out amazing gems. For example, the passage "But because of the notorious" Deripaska case ", the sanctions against the Rusal group of companies hurt European industry as well. Therefore, a repetition is hardly worth fearing.

        The diagram shows the world production of aluminum. The share of China is more than 50%, the share of Russia is less than 10%.
        At the same time, Europe is so "suffering" from the absence of de-pipaskin aluminum that it introduces anti-dumping duties of 48% against Chinese aluminum.
        Well, the turnover "What do the majority care about the dollar and euro rates?" in general, it looks congenial, especially for the population of the country, a significant part of the budget of which directly depends on these very dollars and euros and which, despite all the obstacles, pulls pipes towards these dollars and euros.
        1. +11
          8 March 2021 12: 48
          Quote: Undecim
          It is time to introduce a new section on the site - "Our loyal opinion", since publications of this genre acquire a systematic, daily character.

          Manuscripts do not burn! good laughing drinks
  17. -10
    7 March 2021 11: 26
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Note
    And how to feed the family?

    But in no way. I will see this figure that he paid me 11 thousand for a month, I will make him a disabled person. He then received 300 thousand for the order, as I found out. Here I am looking for him on the sly, disappeared somewhere, lousy louse.

    Let me guess, Putin personally ordered this figure to pay you a penny? And Mishustin and the government even issued a separate decree from afar for this. Have you guessed?
    1. +7
      7 March 2021 12: 54
      Quote: Peaceful SEO
      Let me guess, Putin personally ordered this figure to pay you a penny? And Mishustin and the government even issued a separate decree from afar for this. Have you guessed?

      You guessed it, but a little wrong. This figure, Putin personally with Mishustin, by their signed laws, were allowed to work like this. Come on with arguments, not crazy questions from kindergarten.
  18. +4
    7 March 2021 11: 26
    Quote: Boris55
    Have you heard the thread about the initial thieves' capital - this is the foundation of capitalism.

    Sorry, but capitalism is also developing. It has long been noticed that a slave in life does not earn much. You go to Sweden and tell me that there is bad capitalism.
    We are developing in a completely different way - 100 "princes" stubbornly creep up the Forpes, 100 million have been losing insignificant income for 6 years!
  19. +2
    7 March 2021 11: 31
    I would not be so optimistic about the timing of lifting the sanctions. At one time, in relation to a much more profitable market (USSR) than today's Russian, there was the Jackson-Vanik amendment, which successfully survived the "peak", decline and collapse of the USSR, decline, growth and stagnation of the modern Russian Federation (1974-2012). Iran or the DPRK have been living under sanctions for decades, overgrowing them like onion husks, over time, their markets, in terms of a set of parameters, lose their attractiveness and ease of development, and the bureaucracy ceases to promote this as much as possible - and therefore the initiators of sanctions lose real motivation to lift them .k this no longer bears any benefits to the parties imposing sanctions, only an additional hassle.
    So I think that not large-scale and not dynamically growing markets can remain under sanctions arbitrarily due to the minimal interest of outside forces in effectively breaking these circumstances (which, moreover, decreases over time). One could call it an analogue of a potential pit.
    What interests our foreign "partners" we sell to them anyway, and they buy from us anyway, over time, more or less consistently diversifying this nomenclature.
    IMHO sanctions are for a long time and we need to work not on their abolition, but on expanding our imports to those countries that have something and for what to take from us. Surplus funds from such activities should be directed to the creation in the Russian Federation of what is most difficult to acquire because of the sanctions. Then we will be neither cold nor hot from such activities.
  20. +3
    7 March 2021 12: 41
    Quote: Boris55
    Are you sure about that?

    285x75 = 21375 rubles Are these pensions we have? I was assigned 9900 rubles (a former miner). Divide by 75 = 132 $ lol
    1. +2
      7 March 2021 12: 57
      Quote: fa2998
      Quote: Boris55
      Are you sure about that?

      285x75 = 21375 rubles Are these pensions we have? I was assigned 9900 rubles (a former miner). Divide by 75 = 132 $ lol

      Nefig was to go out to the square behind Yolkin. My grandfather is a miner, he retired back in the 70s, he had a pension of 110 rubles.
  21. exo
    +6
    7 March 2021 12: 46
    Sanctions, do their job. The technological lag is not immediately evident. But those who work in high-tech industries have already felt the difference in replacing imported components with domestic ones. And they do not express delight.
    Everything that we produce conditionally "high-tech" (except for weapons) is practically impossible to sell. It can only be exploited within the country.
    Well, I don’t want to talk about import substitution of products at all: the quality has fallen, prices have risen.
  22. +5
    7 March 2021 12: 58
    Sanctions, in any case, hinder our development. Which industries we ourselves pulled out, and which ones need to be based on 000 ..... and the purchase of licenses and equipment is slowed down by me. Consider the projects of the SSJ and MC21 trite. Correct as purely commercial ... and sanctions can be howl both for components and for the purchase of ready-made airliners such as CAATSA ... and even Aeroflot itself does not risk buying airliners.
  23. +4
    7 March 2021 13: 33
    Quote: Silvestr
    The author believes that economic expediency will prevent new sanctions.

    In world production, Russia is a fraction of a percent. Well, maybe oil and gas, but you can buy from others (it's not for nothing that OPEC is making agreements to reduce production). As a buyer, it is a sparsely populated area, with a poor population. You can not take into account. hi
  24. +8
    7 March 2021 14: 08
    The election draws near, the praise begins ...

    but in fact, after 14 years:
    GDP froze in place, even Rosstat squeaks something incomprehensible about growth.
    The ruble fell
    Prices have increased
    Earnings fell, and fell sharply against the currency of the West.
    The fat years, which could be carried out and industrialized, were futile.
    Projects - national projects, Russkiy Mir, Strategy 2020 - profufukans.
    The trampolines fell behind.
    The Mistrals sailed away, the Armata were left without French sights, etc ...

    But in general, everything is imperceptible. all this slowly, gradually,
    And the Oligarchs, on the contrary, got rich ... Remember Lomonosov's law from the school curriculum?
  25. +2
    7 March 2021 15: 03
    US and EU sanctions stand nothing ... I'm not sure if this is the case for Russia.
  26. +6
    7 March 2021 15: 09
    No, the sanctions still work. Out of nowhere, the collapse of the ruble exchange rate by half, a sharp drop in oil prices, anti-sanctions that hit their citizens harder, relieve the scammers from competition and justify price arbitrariness ... You know, an ordinary citizen does not care about the booze like reserves and interest there. But at times jumped prices, falling wages and poor quality are really visible. And they clearly show that the person's words mean nothing, empty bravado.
  27. +1
    7 March 2021 16: 17
    About the economy and shreds .. this is Obama. Not Trump.
    1. +1
      7 March 2021 17: 50
      Quote: Alexander Andreev_3
      About the economy and shreds .. this is Obama. Not Trump.

      absolutely right
      President Barack Obama said in his address to Congress
      Washington Post.
      “Last year, against the backdrop of Mr. Putin's aggression, we, together with our allies, did the hard work to impose sanctions, strengthened our presence in the front-line states. Some said Putin's strategy was a masterful display of strategy and power. But today it is America that is strong and united with its allies, while Russia is isolated and its economy is torn to shreds, ”Obama said.

      taken from RBC
      The trouble is not even that they are confused. And that is not the first time they intend to write. Not the first article where the phrase is attributed to Trump. Perhaps later they will be credited to Biden.
      This is intentional due to the formation of short-term memory. Obama is a long time ago. But Trump / Biden is already something familiar.
      After repeating this mistake, I did not read the article seriously anymore. Another opus.
      It is not even clear about the information and the meaning of the sanctions. The president and the authorities say what is good. And then they talk about criminal prosecution for calling for sanctions.
      Sur. Or
      Quod licet Iovi (Jovi), non licet bovi
      "What is permitted to Jupiter is not permitted to a bull"
  28. BAI
    +4
    7 March 2021 16: 39
    1
    our Emperor Alexander III (pictured).

    Where is Alexander 3? In the photo we see Lavrov.
    2.
    Do you remember Donald Trump's statement that "the Russian economy is torn to shreds."

    This error has already been encountered on VO. there is no point in saying that the author of the expression is Barack Obama.
    3.
    Sanctions: five years without sense and two more without use

    The sanctions will continue for a very, very long time. Enough for our century. They are worthless to the United States, and Russia is suffering real economic damage. The sanctions to disrupt the US SP-2 were not worth a loin (not a cent). And Russia has suffered very noticeable damage (lost profits).
  29. +3
    7 March 2021 16: 58
    I understood about 17 thousand, and about 12 and even about 9
    (from a former miner).
    And who will say why there is a communal apartment in Poland
    for a family - 9% of income?
    1. +2
      7 March 2021 17: 48
      Quote: Kushka
      And who will say why there is a communal apartment in Poland
      for a family - 9% of income?

      They are paid extra for harm. Because they are members of NATO.
  30. -2
    7 March 2021 18: 13
    Quote: mordvin xnumx
    Quote: Peaceful SEO
    Let me guess, Putin personally ordered this figure to pay you a penny? And Mishustin and the government even issued a separate decree from afar for this. Have you guessed?

    You guessed it, but a little wrong. This figure, Putin personally with Mishustin, by their signed laws, were allowed to work like this. Come on with arguments, not crazy questions from kindergarten.

    Directly in the law, it was allowed to deceive employees or contractors (I still did not understand which category you belong to in this case), to promise one thing in the contract, but in fact to pay several times less?
    What a bastard! ..
    Or did you yourself agree to such conditions initially, and then the toad began to gnaw?
    1. +1
      7 March 2021 19: 44
      Quote: Peaceful SEO
      Or all the same, you yourself agreed to such conditions initially,

      Initially it was 40 thousand a month. We made a fence.
      This.
  31. +1
    7 March 2021 19: 56
    "" Do you remember Donald Trump's statement that "the Russian economy is torn to shreds." But for some reason we weren't scared. And when he promised it, and when then "
    I'm not sure that Comrade Trump said this.
    "And let someone say that this is bad. After all, travel abroad in Soviet times was generally considered a luxury. Almost not available to anyone. Worse than diamonds and Bohemian porcelain."
    What the hell are foreign trips ?!
    Normal people live with completely different problems! ..
  32. 0
    7 March 2021 20: 41
    Not Trump, but Obama tore our economy to shreds hi mistake

    The sanctions war, sooooo much changed the lives of many people! We didn’t live better for sure! And it didn't go in vain crying

    What does not happen, everything is for the better, the sanctions have straightened the government's brains! They began to move them slowly
  33. +4
    7 March 2021 20: 56
    ...
    when it became clear that both overarching and sectoral work poorly.

    And they were really introduced?
  34. +2
    7 March 2021 21: 23
    I remember and heard Obama's statement about the Russian economy torn to shreds, but the same phrase from Trump for the life of me. Manipulation of propagandists?
  35. 0
    8 March 2021 22: 33
    well, there are 2 options:
    1) the author has an extra chromosome
    2) paid propaganda-ist-it, like, in fact, this entire resource: /
  36. +8
    9 March 2021 06: 54
    Why is it useless, but what about the vaunted import substitution?
  37. +2
    9 March 2021 10: 23
    Chronicle of success ...

    1 m2 of average housing in Russia - 2 average salaries.
    In France - 0.5 average salary
    In the USA - 0.3 of the average salary.

    "This year we will sow 1000 hectares of wheat, let the damned weevil choke" ...
  38. +2
    9 March 2021 11: 47
    This means that we are talking specifically about losses for the year. And in fact, and in another case Russia has enough reserves to cover such "losses" for even several years. But still she preferred to accumulate them.

    Yes, what they say is achieved, and not only in the West, "due to the impoverishment of its own population". But in general, we now have to look for real poverty.
    And what is "covering reserves" here expressed if the people are really poor ?? Where is this accumulation ??



    It is clear that the general public, living in Russia, which is not too rich without that, does not feel the impact of sanctions as strongly as, for example, quarantine measures. But for the oligarchic elite, which cannot boast of special patriotism in business, sanctions are really expensive.

    Exactly the opposite .. The oligarchs ate caviar as they did .. As they flew on private planes, they fly .. What they wanted to buy, they buy ..
    Not a single oligarch has failed in anything ..


    But it is precisely the "general public" who feels all the fall in the ruble and the rise in prices .. Starting from gasoline and electronics, ending with food ..

    PS .. recently I wanted to buy a laptop .. I started to choose, read reviews .. along the way I came across price dynamics ..
    What cost 30 thousand last year, now goes under 40 .. In the end, for the time being put off this venture .. But the oligarchs do not care ..
  39. +1
    9 March 2021 13: 22
    Sorry, got in here with a different topic. In the economic survey, I did not find a place for comments, well, I really want to share.
    Anecdote:
    "A candidate for deputy, always a winning party, holds a meeting with voters. And ends it with the words:
    - Vote for us, we will live even better.
    And from the audience they ask:
    - And we?"
    So here is a similar title in the economic overview:
    "Russia successfully feeds 1,5 billion China: a record growth in food exports is recorded in the Russian Federation"
    So I just want to ask:
    - And us, the Russian people?
    At the same time, the Chinese will not buy with palm oil, only high quality.
  40. 0
    11 March 2021 04: 05
    But Russian gas is needed by Europe, and especially Germany, just like a nosebleed. It doesn't work with alternative energy. And on top of that, the Russian market is somehow more and more closed for goods from the West.

    High hopes for gas, we will end up with our gas bubble bursting.

    First, "dear friends" are ruining Gazprom as soon as they can, look at the data how much it has depreciated over the past two decades. We are building promising pipelines by investing huge funds in them and only thereby enriching our "dear friends" once again and compensating for our mediocre foreign policy and defeats already in the militant underbelly, the example of Ukraine is enough.

    Secondly, waking up late and throwing ourselves like a fire, we were able to sort of remedy the situation in Syria and cut the course of Qatar through its territory. But how long will we have enough resources and whether this will be justified is still a big question.

    Thirdly, behind the fuss around the name of the Prime Minister of Armenia, talk about the relevance of strike UAVs that were widely used during the battles in Karabakh, we do not notice how Armenia is being taken out from under our noses and we are deprived of the leverage on Azerbaijan. The West forms a free and safe corridor from the Black Sea to the Caspian Sea with access to the resources of Central Asia and to our underbelly.
    The gas pipeline from Azerbaijan to Europe is already functioning, relying on the agreement on the Caspian Sea, we believed that the construction of a trans-Caspian gas pipeline and the connection of Turkmenistan would be impossible. But even here they start to bypass us gradually, Azerbaijan and Turkmenistan have agreed on joint production at the disputable field and gas from it will go ONLY in the direction of Azerbaijan and into the same gas pipeline in the direction of the EU.
    The more the share of our gas on the European market decreases, the less resources we will have to ensure this share. For example, we will leave Syria and there will be another pipeline to Europe, and an even greater decrease in our share, and, accordingly, our income.

    Fourth, in addition to Qatar, we also have Iran with its huge gas reserves close by. Now he is under sanctions and it is profitable for us somewhere that having plunged into the struggle and confrontation with the States, he was under sanctions and does not participate in the struggle for the European market. But subversive activities are being conducted against Iran, and every day the moment is approaching when the clerical leadership of Iran will be swept away, and the country itself is divided into at least three parts. And the first thing to do is Iranian gas, not oil.

    And finally, fifthly, deposits with sufficiently large gas reserves have been discovered in the Mediterranean and Black Seas. In one case it is Israel and means supplies to Europe, again to the detriment of our volumes, in the other case it is Turkey and means a decrease in the consumption of our gas again.


    In the context of sanctions restricting the export of, for example, the products of our military-industrial complex, an example of the failure of our contracts for the supply of Su-35 fighters to Indonesia and Egypt, the weakness of our economy and a decrease in revenue from the export of gas and other hydrocarbons, lower prices for them, damage to our economy the country will not be measured at all by 180 billion. We need to break this vicious circle of sanctions or destroy their source, this is a matter of our life or death in the literal sense, and not only a matter of the welfare and security of the capital of our oligarchs.
    Let me remind you again. The collapse of the USSR's economy strangled by the West, which ended in several regional wars, its disintegration and devastation of the 90s, took TENS of millions of lives of our fellow citizens, caused enormous damage to future generations.
    A deliberately unfair competition was waged against us, when we were a source and example of alternative values ​​and systems, well, let's say that the USSR was evil. But the same struggle without rules is being waged against us, when we became a young capitalist country, the image and likeness of that very West at its early stage in the development of wild capitalism. It's no secret that everything that our country has been going through since the 90s and is going through now is literally the recent past of most Western countries, both European and North American.

    We are now by no means the USSR, the legal successor on the scale of the Russian Empire, and not the Russian Empire, but only their stub. A blow comparable to the one that was inflicted on the USSR for us in our current situation and in our current mastabs will end much more deplorable, we no longer have that reserve and reserve of strength of the USSR or the Russian Empire. A crisis similar to those experienced by the USSR and the Russian Empire will end for us with much greater losses and, first of all, human losses, we can lose up to half of our population.
    In such conditions, it becomes urgent to literally consider the possibility and form plans for the destruction or infliction of significant damage to the United States, a number of countries in Europe and Asia. It sounds crazy, but we are being brought to the brink where our damage from a retaliatory strike in the event of a nuclear war will be comparable or even lower than the damage that will be caused to us by sanctions and restrictions, unfair competition and bias.
    This very formulation of the question, especially in conditions when no missile defense systems are still able to provide protection, deployment and formation of additional Strategic Missile Forces formations for this plan and tasks from it, will become either an argument for sobering up and restoring balance, or a means of direct influence. Literally speaking, they want to live, they will remove all restrictions and sanctions, as well as the missile defense system at our side, they do not want to, they will take their sanctions and restrictions with them to the coffin.
    We do not need mines or even mobile earth complexes in their current form; we can deploy an additional number of ICBMs at least on semi-trailers. They will take up their minds, rockets will serve as carriers for launching satellites into orbit, but no, they simply will not leave us an exit.

    Delirium of a madman and paranoid? ... I agree, but exactly to the point, until you count how many millions of lives we lost without war, having received a blow by other means and methods at the turn of the 80s and 90s, and what is the amount of damage caused to our economy and population. We see what and how the "democratizers" are doing in other countries, and if we had changed places with them, they would have destroyed us long ago to the laughter of some neo Hillary Clinton, watching from the bunker at the mini-apocalypse picture in our territory.
  41. 0
    12 March 2021 07: 54
    Well, in the 90s there were no sanctions and provocations, as well as there was no domestic industry and agriculture, but there was an influx of used imported cars, which finally ruined all the rudiments of domestic ones, but there were genetically modified American legs, from which there was only in the growth of cholesterol in the body and it is not known what else. But under the sanctions, under the leadership of Vladimir Vladimirovich Putin, sanctions and provocations began, and the American coronavirus as the last provocation of the West, BUT, if you look, then there are no those harmful legs, but there are domestic tasty and natural in abundance, and industry and agriculture are already walks with his head held high. So, despite all the disadvantages of sanctions and provocations, still life under sanctions is better and better because there is work in Russia, and not shuttle trips to Turkey for goods for the Cherkizon. There are pensions, subsidies, maternity capital and other things that did not exist in the 90s. In the 90s, pensions were given at most twice a year, and then in large cities of Russia and elderly Russian citizens were interrupted as best they could. The only thing I don’t like is that there is no serious and harsh response to the sanctions, such responses that would make the hairs in the armpits stand on end in the West and so that they would really feel all the delights of serious sanctions on themselves !!!