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At Sevmash, corps of the seventh and eighth "Ash-M" are being formed

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At Sevmash, corps of the seventh and eighth "Ash-M" are being formed

The seventh and eighth multipurpose nuclear submarines of the Yasen-M project Voronezh and Vladivostok are at the stage of forming their hulls. This was reported in the military-industrial complex.


At Sevmash, the formation of the corps of the Voronezh and Vladivostok nuclear submarines is in full swing (...) the transfer of submarines to the Russian Navy is planned for 2027 and 2028, respectively

- leads TASS source words.

The fact that two new submarines of the project 885M (Yasen-M), laid down on July 20, 2020, will be transferred to the Russian fleet in 2027 and 2028, said the head of the United Shipbuilding Corporation (USC) Alexei Rakhmanov.

The contract for the construction of two Project 885M Yasen-M nuclear submarines was signed in the summer of 2019 during the Army-2019 International Military-Technical Forum.

Currently, the Russian Navy has one Project 885 Severodvinsk nuclear-powered submarine, which entered the fleet in 2014. The lead submarine of the project 885M "Kazan" is to enter the fleet in the near future, the USC announced the completion of all tests. The date of raising the Andreevsky flag should be determined by the Ministry of Defense. The first serial nuclear submarine "Novosibirsk" is also planned to be handed over to the fleet by the end of the year.

In addition, there are four more submarines of project 885M at different stages of construction at Sevmash.

The Yasen-M submarines have a displacement of 13800 tons, a diving depth of 520 meters, a crew of 64, an autonomy of 100 days, an underwater speed of 31 knots. In service are mines, torpedoes 533 mm, cruise missiles "Caliber", "Onyx", "Zircon".
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 4 March 2021 09: 35
    -17%
    The plans must be fulfilled!
    The boats are laid, the hulls are being formed, they must be delivered on time with good quality.
    Well, about the timing ... it was only under the Soviet Union there was a plan-law.
    After December 32, the awards flew with a whistle!
    1. Foxnova
      Foxnova 4 March 2021 10: 48
      +1
      Therefore, the first lyre was just scrap.
    2. DrEng527
      DrEng527 4 March 2021 11: 11
      0
      Quote: Victor_B
      After December 32, the awards flew with a whistle!

      by no means, or the plan was corrected or accepted against a letter of guarantee ... request
    3. ver_
      ver_ 4 March 2021 14: 35
      -1
      ..plan along the shaft, shaft according to the plan ...
  2. silberwolf88
    silberwolf88 4 March 2021 09: 39
    +3
    the project as a whole is successful ... and the armament for it is good ... so just go ahead in building and equipping the Navy ...
    1. Mouse
      Mouse 4 March 2021 09: 49
      +3
      just ahead in building and equipping the Fleet

      Full speed ahead !!!
      1. ver_
        ver_ 4 March 2021 10: 08
        -2
        .. * the most complete - shouted Byvalov into a megaphone and stamped his foot .. *
        1. Kart
          Kart 4 March 2021 11: 02
          -3
          Well, this is better than the Sumerian inflatable aircraft carriers.
  3. Galleon
    Galleon 4 March 2021 09: 49
    +1
    In the summer of 2019, we signed a contract, and a year later the buildings were laid. Hakuna matata - no problem! Manyana - come tomorrow!
    I can't believe that after signing the contract there were problems with the supply of the required metal or with the project documentation, which took a YEAR to fix! For some reason, interest is awakening to hear the head about these shock rates. And to hear it so that it gets through, with confiscation. Did you receive a salary for a whole year? Give it back.
    1. betta
      betta 4 March 2021 09: 57
      +3
      Perhaps the money from the budget was allocated at 20 and then at the end. We bought material, cut (and possibly sawed). You can probably explain it, but it's not an excuse.
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 4 March 2021 10: 00
        +1
        I understand that I am comparing something incomparable, but I will nevertheless say: the Americans, from keel to clottik, build the Ohio type in 18-20 months, and our industry took a year for ... I can't even imagine what.
        1. Ka-52
          Ka-52 4 March 2021 10: 23
          +5
          and it took our industry a year to ... I can't even imagine what.

          approval of technical documentation by the Customer - 2-3 months.
          obtaining preliminary financing - up to 5 months.
          conclusion of contracts with subcontractors and subcontractors (in the presence of working documentation and approved estimates) - 3 months
          delivery of materials - from 6 months and more.
          and so on and so on
          I don’t know about the Americans, but I think they will not build "from keel to clottik" without the above.
          1. Temples
            Temples 4 March 2021 10: 41
            +1
            Quote: Galleon
            In the summer of 2019, we signed a contract, and a year later they laid the buildings.

            Himself invented and who whispered?
            The seventh and eighth multipurpose nuclear submarines of the Yasen-M project Voronezh and Vladivostok are at the stage of hull formation


            Galleon, what do you know about these works?
            When did they start?
            How long does these jobs take?
            What stage of readiness are you currently at?
            What works have been carried out to ensure the start of these works?
            Share the technology of production of the nuclear submarine 885M.

            At what stage of production do you think the schedule was behind?
            Tell me.

            You know how to shed tears and come on shit.
            In this you are special. good love
            1. Galleon
              Galleon 4 March 2021 11: 06
              +1
              No need to poke, temples, control yourself. Read the article - the terms are written there. Have you issued an admission to share production technology and readiness with you?
        2. venik
          venik 4 March 2021 10: 39
          +7
          Quote: Galleon
          Americans from keel to klotik build a type "Ohio" in 18-20 months

          =======
          belay These are some of the boats like "Ohio", the Americans for 18 or even 20 months "from keel to klotik" built ??? Give me a concrete example!
          It takes them 3.5 - 4 years from laying to launch, and another 1.5-2 years before commissioning!
          So, don't "bla-bla-bla"
          1. Galleon
            Galleon 4 March 2021 10: 52
            +1
            Really lied laughing laughing and was caught by a vigilant comrade!
            I climbed to answer and found this:
            shipbuilders have already gained experience in building a new series of submarines. In the United States, they traditionally rely on the model of laying, building and commissioning a fleet of submarines with a gradual decrease in the time and cost for each subsequent unit in the series. Thus, the construction period for the first four Virginia boats (Block I) was 84 months. For the next six (Block II) - already 74 months. The eight Block III submarines currently under construction have a 66-month deadline. For submarines of the final Block IV, it will be reduced to 62, and then to 60 months.

            Apologize hi .
        3. Piramidon
          Piramidon 4 March 2021 11: 06
          0
          Quote: Galleon
          Americans from keel to klotik build a type "Ohio" in 18-20 months

          In the USSR, boats were also baked like pies. But the Yankes had "perestroika", the Gorbachevs, Yeltsins, Gaidars and Chubais ..., the collapse of the entire industry and the country?
        4. DrEng527
          DrEng527 4 March 2021 11: 19
          +1
          Quote: Galleon
          keel to clotick americans are building type "Ohio" in 18-20 months,

          USS Louisiana (SSBN-743) laid down on October 23, 1992, launched on July 27, 1996, launched on September 6, 1997 - apparently this is far from the time that you indicated and this was the last boat in the series request
          If we take the last Virginia: SSN-792 "Vermont" commenced work 05.2014 laid down 02.2017 launched on 20.10.2018 18.04.2020, then even after laying it for more than 3 years ...
          so you are a little wrong ... hi
    2. Eldorado
      Eldorado 4 March 2021 09: 59
      0
      Ships never start building immediately after the signing of the contract, and less than a year passed between the signing of the contract and the laying of the APRK.
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 4 March 2021 10: 07
        +2
        Throughout the winter of 1696, Peter I was preparing the Russian army for a new campaign. Returning from Azov, Peter convened a council at which it was decided to build a fleet in Preobrazhensky: 22 galleys modeled on the Dutch, 4 fire ships, 3 frigates and 2 galleases and take them to Voronezh for assembly; on the rafts closest to Voronezh - Kozlov, Dobry, Sokolsk, make 1300 floatable plows for the army, 300 boats and 100 rafts; in Voronezh to set up the Admiralty and the seikhhaus, to lay two ships and to cut down houses for working people incessantly.


        From 1722 to 1725, 9 battleships, 3 frigates, one shnava, 22 auxiliary and one rowing ship were built.


        Whether it was time - it was the pace of construction. The ancestors were glorious, but the descendants went to Menshikov more.
        1. Ru_Na
          Ru_Na 4 March 2021 10: 56
          +1
          Well, you just compared the pace of construction of a wooden ship and a modern multipurpose apl stuffed with electronics. Uncle, you are comparing incomparable!
          1. Galleon
            Galleon 4 March 2021 11: 11
            +1
            Try to find other numbers on the Internet as an answer at a glance. Well, the technologies are different, and the mechanization is different, tools, equipment. It is clear that it is incomparable.
        2. Kart
          Kart 4 March 2021 11: 06
          -2
          Well, if you build from wood, and the size of a ship from the times of Peter, then just 9 pieces will turn out.
          Better yet, make inflatable ones.
          As it is customary for the Euro-blood.
          1. Galleon
            Galleon 4 March 2021 11: 12
            +2
            It is even better to draw on paper and talk in the news about what we will build in the future tense.
            1. Kart
              Kart 4 March 2021 11: 52
              -2
              This is how you want.
              It's a little different here in Russia.
        3. Piramidon
          Piramidon 4 March 2021 11: 18
          +2
          Quote: Galleon
          Whether it was time - it was the pace of construction

          And Africans generally knit their pies from cane in 1 day laughing
          .
    3. nnm
      nnm 4 March 2021 11: 12
      +1
      For example, now contracts for anticancer vaccines are being concluded for 23 years.
      I think, on the contrary, contracts should be for years to come, so that shipbuilders understand what volumes they will have in a year or three to five years. And not that there is a contract - we are all running urgently, looking for where to hire workers. And they finished building the product and everyone on unpaid holidays. And we are waiting for the new contract.
      It is necessary to look at the observance of the construction stages under the contract, and not at the date of the conclusion. In addition, our MO loves to make a million changes to the project.
  4. Alien From
    Alien From 4 March 2021 10: 02
    +2
    Everything would be as they plan .......!
  5. Lord of the Sith
    Lord of the Sith 4 March 2021 10: 32
    +1
    About dispersed! Pleases drinks
  6. Aqr009
    Aqr009 4 March 2021 10: 48
    +2
    And why do our journalists, in every article, call submarines submarines, but don't call the subway a subway? Disorder however negative
    And how beautiful it would be: the Zircon hypersonic missile!
    1. nnm
      nnm 4 March 2021 11: 14
      0
      The main thing is that there are no objections to the tank)))
  7. Galleon
    Galleon 4 March 2021 10: 58
    +1
    Quote: Ka-52
    approval of technical documentation by the Customer - 2-3 months

    Then answer a simple question: how can you determine the price of a contract and sign it without prior approval of this very technical documentation, which is the basis for the execution of a preliminary estimate? Or are we alone in our activities including this work in the pre-design, and shipbuilders work differently?
    obtaining pre-financing - up to 5 months

    If you are an experienced person and you know firsthand about such terms of financing, then this, perhaps, explains a lot and shows that there is no need to rush anywhere. Alas.
  8. Connor MacLeod
    Connor MacLeod 4 March 2021 13: 11
    -1
    6 Ash + 6 Laeks
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 5 March 2021 01: 51
      0
      How much will it be ??
  9. Escobar
    Escobar 5 March 2021 16: 21
    0
    For a start, they would have at least brought the first to mind and handed over to the fleet.