The Ministry of Defense has developed special army rations for the Airborne Forces, marines and special forces

The Department of Defense has developed special army rations for the Airborne Forces, Special Forces and the Marine Corps, deliveries begin this year. This was announced by Colonel Sergei Nikhelman, head of the (food) department of resource support of the Ministry of Defense, in an interview with the newspaper Nezavisimoye Voennoye Obozreniye.

Answering the relevant question, Nikhelman explained that the new special army ration, developed in accordance with the requirements of the Airborne Forces, Marine Corps and Special Forces, became twice as compact, while improving in terms of nutritional value.

We have a large number of foods that contain carbohydrates. This ensures fast saturation and recovery of energy, which is very important in conditions of intense combat.

- he explained.

Also, the Ministry of Defense is developing special rations for military personnel in hot climatic conditions, including Syria. In such diets, the main emphasis is placed on compensating for the rapid loss of moisture and saturating the body with vitamins and mineral salts, which is necessary for the Russian military in these conditions.

It is noted that, unlike NATO rations, Russian army rations contain fewer chemicals and preservatives, so the shelf life of domestic food rations is only two years, as opposed to five years for Western rations.

Our ration is stored for a maximum of two years. At the same time, it is constantly consumed as military units conduct combat training activities, so that there is always a fresh supply in warehouses

- said Nikhelman.

He stressed that rations are currently being developed not for a specific type or kind of the Armed Forces, but based on the climatic conditions where certain units of the Russian army operate. Therefore, servicemen of the same type of troops located in the Arctic or Syria will receive completely different army rations, designed to be used in these conditions.

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[Pereira]

I wanted to taste it.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Pereira

I wanted to taste it.

You can try, but I warn you (this is humor).

[Petr1]

I hope schnipelson palm oil did not forget to add to the diet. Because now without it anywhere. Neither in Syria nor in Russia

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Petr1

I hope schnipelson palm oil did not forget to add to the diet. Because now without it anywhere. Neither in Syria nor in Russia

Is that humor? Or anti-Semitism at the genetic level?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Is that humor? Or anti-Semitism at the genetic level?

How have you already gotten with your "antisimetism".
You invent it yourself, and then whine to the whole world.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

You make it up yourself, and then whine to the whole world

You cultivate it. And what's the talk about palm oil? Just injecting the substance onto the fan. By connecting the name of the responsible person with the notorious palm oil, which is either there or not?

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

You cultivate it. And what's the talk about palm oil?

So the performance on palm oil angered you? So it should have been said. And then - antisimetism, antisimetism.

[113262a]

To make it clear, if Shnippelson is the commander of the tank crew, or the sapper's chest of drawers, yes, I respect and shake hands! (It's exotic!) The same stamp as Okhrimenko and ... Shmatko!

[Ryazan87]

Why now)

[Kart]

A distant rumble is heard somewhere. This undermines the fighters with the regimen.
Well, you are so cruel to them. Palm oil is one of the main pillars of the regime's crimes. Together with pensioners, oligarchs and Roscosmos.

[Petr1]

The list of countries where palm oil is living out its last days, even as part of household chemicals, is huge:

Austria
Albania
Andorra
Belgium
Bulgaria Bosnia and Herzegovina
Vatican
United Kingdom
Hungary
Germany
Greece
Denmark
Ireland
Iceland
Spain
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Malta
Moldavia
Monaco
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
San Marino
North Macedonia
Serbia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Finland
France
Croatia
Montenegro
Czech Republic
Switzerland
Sweden
Estonia.

Ukraine and Belarus are not included in this list. In Russia, palm oil is used everywhere and there is no talk of giving up this product at all.

[credo]

Quote: Pereira

I wanted to taste it.

I tried ordinary army rations for the modern Russian army. I liked it.
Tried the usual army rations, the Soviet army. Very tasty, especially a variety of porridge with stew (pearl barley went with a bang, like buckwheat).

I hope that our Ministry of Defense also uses the experience of cooking for Soviet (Russian) cosmonauts (I haven’t tried it, but they say that they make very excellent and compact dishes, without chemicals) for a variety of meals for the Russian Armed Forces.

[Old tanker]

Of all the canned cereals in rations, I liked barley the most. Buckwheat is rather dry and burns more than others when heated on fire. Fat rice. Well, it's all subjective, of course. But the best thing in "Etalon" (Soviet ration) was stew! And she was like that until the second half of the XNUMXs, and then she became useless. I do not know if this is connected with the arrival of Serdyukov, but the time coincided.

[Dart]

take constantly, as a fisherman, as soon as they appeared in the army.
I tried everything, and there are six different menus.
Everything is delicious, you can eat in peace for a couple of days, if you are lazy or do not cook for reasons. Only, biscuits, if I have been soldering for half a year, then I am too tough.
And so I tried a lot of different rations from different countries, I declare in a separate manner - ours, one of the most delicious, and judging by the composition, less harmful.
For those who are interested, there is a channel "Solid" on YouTube, he ate a dog on rations.

[Cananecat]

I wanted to taste

I will not say for the new ones. And those that are now driving and there is a sale. You can purchase it through the military trade.

[volodimer]

it is constantly consumed as military units conduct combat training activities

Not all is consumed , so I have some opportunity to get to the tasting.
In the classic rations, there used to be more "meat with porridge", but now it was "porridge with meat". But the quality is decent, and considering the cost, it is just excellent.
And here is the question: after all, it is possible to produce normal products at a normal price even in the current capitalist conditions.
The answer to why the stores are not so, I myself know.

[Andrey Yuryevich]

Quote: Pereira

I wanted to taste it.

".... throwing your keys out the window ... come in ..." (C) "White sun of the desert", Vereshchagin.

[Mountain shooter]

I should try ... According to rumors, quite decent rations. Who tried it, unsubscribe? I wonder what our boys are fed with?

[Dym71]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Who tried it, unsubscribe?

We have a video blogger who specializes in IRP reviews, and should soon describe the novelty in paints.
https://www.youtube.com/c/xxxxxSoLiDxxxxx/videos

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Dym71

We have a video blogger specializing in IRP reviews

"Hello. Solid again." And don't forget to feed the operator.

[Artyom Karagodin]

As a person who has more than once familiarized himself with the contents of the box with the inscription "IRP" (individual diet), I can say that all this is an exceptional yummy. When in our unit the alarm was announced and everyone was transferred to this kind of food, a holiday came. Although the food in the canteen was also very good, but the food rations, as we called them from old memory, were always out of competition!

PS When we arranged something near the competition between the rations of different armies (which one is tastier, more nutritious, etc.), ours won by a huge margin, approximately the same as in the match between the national teams of Canada and Mongolia in hockey. I remember Gusev said in one of the programs that the score was 40: 0. In a word, a fierce, uncompromising struggle was waged ... for the second place.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Artyom Karagodin

When they arranged something near the competition between the rations of different armies (which one is tastier, more nutritious, etc.), ours won

At one time, there was information from Georgia that our 1-in was changed to 3 NATO ones.

[Artyom Karagodin]

I readily believe. Extra confirmation of the information from the official sources given above)))

[Old tanker]

There are no NATO rations. Each army has its own and they differ significantly, both in composition and in concept.

[Artyom Karagodin]

Most likely, there was the introduction of rations for the armies of those countries that are part of NATO.

[volodimer]

The only thing I can't eat from the RPI is minced sausage. Here I have to be very hungry, the rest is tucked into both cheeks, but this is such a trifle. Oh, and biscuits become boring. In civilian life, you open the IRP and mix it in a frying pan. A gorgeous snack for three is ready.

[Agave tequilana]

in the late 80s, a can of minced sausage meat (250 g) was changed into two cans of stew (250 g each) or one half-kilogram.

[paul3390]

I once bought a dozen to try, when I was getting out to Vuoksa. What can I say - it is quite possible to eat, even tasty, in terms of calorie content, just right, IMHO - quite suitable rations .. Of course - it is sad to sit on this all the time, but for a month - I personally would have held out calmly. And if necessary, even more ..

[volodimer]

I live on a scientific base and sometimes snow or typhoons cut me off from the "main land". Two or three weeks is easy. IRPs are very helpful, especially if there are also power outages. And sweets, chocolate and mashed potatoes, brighten up life very much.

[Dart]

Nitsche yourself a man! on the basis of a small team in an autonomous system, at the end of the world, to engage in science .. respect!

[Old tanker]

Not that constantly, and a month will be enough for nothing to go into your mouth. In this regard, group rations for small units are much more diverse. There are even canned soups. Borscht is generally very good and the hodgepodge is not bad either.

[Grits]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

I should try ... According to rumors, quite decent rations. Who tried it, unsubscribe? I wonder what our boys are fed with?

Just yesterday, a relative brought me one package - he asked to show it to his son and daughter. The children have already devoured half of it, but with great pleasure. Everything is very delicious. Meatballs in tomato, beans with meat go with a bang. I really liked the salted bacon - a small jar, but quite nutritious.
To be honest, I would not have eaten it myself in one day - the set is too varied and satisfying. And with vitamins what you need - 3 sachets of concentrate. diluted with water and you get a chic "compote" vitamin. It will stand a little and turn into jelly. By the way, there is also a package with vitamins.

[Hunter 2]

I tried and periodically buy (as N / A) Army Mountain rations (Russian Army) IRP-G, - Excellent (tasty and more than 5500 thousand kcal).
Another worthy JOK from Voentorg - Partizansky ration, excellent dry ration - but recently did not come across.
Our Army rations are leading by a huge margin, tried over a dozen different ones, from Australia to Japan.

[Thrifty]

2 times more compact due to what is the abundance of chemistry in this ration? Food, this is something on which to save in the army is not desirable, even in the beginning, and the dry ration should be rich in hearty and healthy food, and not in beautiful boxes with a periodic table called "products".

[Vovk]

Army rations without chemicals? Is it even possible?
"It is noted that, unlike NATO rations, Russian army rations contain less chemicals and preservatives" - the shelf life of rations made from natural ingredients without chemicals in difficult climatic conditions (for example, heat) is only one month, all that is more - then already with chemistry and preservatives.
It is recommended to use the NATO army rations max 1-2 weeks, then it is necessary to undergo a mandatory rehabilitation therapy for the digestive system. I wonder how with this in the Russian Army?

[carstorm 11]

Preservatives are not necessarily chemistry. What is the preservative in the stew?)

[Vovk]

Preservatives are not necessarily chemistry. What is the preservative in the stew?)

If you yourself make the stew yourself, this is one thing, but when it is done industrially ... who will destroy the production technology at a loss?

[garri-lin]

The most important preservative in stew is the temperature at the time of sealing.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: Vovk

Army rations without chemicals? Is it even possible?

I will not say anything about modern dry rations, but I remember the Soviet one very well. What kind of chemistry could you talk about when you open a can of stew? I especially liked the beef produced by the Ulan-Ude meat processing plant. Likewise, when you open "Pork liver pate" or "Minced sausage". I can't say anything bad about porridge: buckwheat, pearl barley, pea with meat.
So, the Soviet dry ration was very good. If noneshny is better, then we can only rejoice for our soldiers.

[VORON538]

Unfortunately, the Ulan-Ude stew in the last few years has become a complete sludge! Although a little less than 10 years ago, we took it in boxes at an affordable price, now the prices are lomyat, and for what, pieces of skins, fat and an incomprehensible consistency that turns when heating in a liquid. In general, disgusting. Found Kaliningrad. Normal. Belarusian good, there at least it is clear why you give money!

[Proton]

The fact that Ulan-Udenskaya has slightly dropped in quality is for sure. But the plant there was almost completely reconstructed, modern production, he saw everything "live".
That's why the quality has dropped. To support local producers, the tariffs for the supply of meat (including unprocessed) from abroad (read Mongolia) were raised. But local producers are physically unable to raise the livestock population in a short time. Therefore, you have to mix with offal.

[VORON538]

Mixed, in the end, let them chew what they produce, if they can

[Vovk]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I will not say anything about modern dry rations, but I remember the Soviet one very well. What kind of chemistry could you talk about when you open a can of stew?

Now we are talking about modern dry food and canned meat. Yes, Soviet stew and army rations were good, but they were produced in accordance with USSR GOSTs, but what is produced now, where every food company writes GOSTs to itself ... one thing is meat grown on natural products ... and now in stew or sinewy old cattle or pig and chicken on compound feed.

[Genry]

Quote: Krasnoyarsk

I will not say anything about modern dry rations, but I remember the Soviet one very well.

The Soviet dry ration, in fact, was just a basic semi-finished product. It was necessary to cook it with additives to taste.

[Grits]

Tin cans are completely absent in modern rations. Everything is packed in soft metallized jars. You can warm it up over a fire. And in the package there are 3 tablets of dry fuel, a tin plate for it and a package of special matches.

[Avior]

Same
Sunday
Further problems with the digestive tract are possible.

[garri-lin]

I disagree. If you have clean water and time, you can cook well from the contents of the dry ration. Especially from the officer in which there is a spy.

[Old tanker]

What kind of "officer" dry ration? How many served nirazu never met. Shpig also happens in the usual everyday IRP-P.

[garri-lin]

From old memory I call it that. An ordinary soldier in a cellophane package. The one that I call officer and paper, multilayer foil. He is richer in assortment. Chocolate, one main course, and a delicious treat over the regular.

[garri-lin]

If by law, then no more than 3 days. Then it is desirable to provide normal nutrition. But here a lot depends on the soldier. A soldier's pot plus IRP P is quite possible to make hot liquid. Hearty and digestible for the stomach.

[Artyom Karagodin]

Most likely due to packaging. Believe me, there is something to save on without compromising quality. You can just place everything more compactly.

[carstorm 11]

There is no and there is no chemistry. Ours are more boring than foreign ones in this. Including food selection for allergens. This is also one of the requirements, since getting food allergies to the fighters is another circus.

[Vovk]

Quote: carstorm 11

There is no and there is no chemistry.

Now they manage to pour the chemistry even into the pea concentrate, where it is not needed ... look at the packaging label for how the time will be ...

[Genry]

Quote: Vovk

Now they manage to pour the chemistry even into the pea concentrate, where it is not needed ... look at the packaging label for how the time will be ...

Well, peas with salt and spices (sodium glutamate is also salt, in the correct sense: a flavor enhancer, like sugar, etc.).

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: carstorm 11

There is no and there is no chemistry. Ours are more boring than foreign ones in this.

Did they eat the Bundeswehr rations of the late 80s, which were given to veterans in the USSR as humanitarian aid? There, the Italian stew was with a shelf life up to 2000. True, it could be called a stew only with a big hangover.

[carstorm 11]

Yes) their stew is more like a tourist's breakfast. What a fig.

[paul3390]

Alas, as a person who once served the plant for chemical and food aromatics, I can convey the opinion of the local people - in the modern world there is practically no grub without chemistry at all. Only for the especially wealthy, for it is very expensive. Moreover, according to modern standards, it is impossible to keep within them at all without chemosis, because a natural product will always walk in taste, smell and color. Though head against the wall. And add a flavoring agent - and everything is in openwork .. These are not Soviet GOSTs for you ..

[Alien From]

Normal soldering. But my own elk stew with wild boar ..... oh, not the season now.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Thrifty

with a periodic table called "products"

start ... in boxes ...
Degradation of education?
Well, that is, your stomach dangles between your knees, not because you prefer sandwiches for dinner, or a pack of dumplings with grease, because you are too lazy to cook, but because GMOs, palm oil and all that?

[Genry]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

palm oil and all that

What's wrong with palm oil? The same vegetable as others, but better fits the taste of confectionery.
When they make a substitute for milk and sour cream, then this is a common deception of buyers.
And poor quality fats is another topic of conversation, since any substance can be spoiled.

[garri-lin]

The big difference is hydrogenated or not. Another poison is very edible.

[Genry]

Quote: garri-lin

The big difference is hydrogenated or not.

It is more correct to ask the question about the use of margarines, which can be from any fat (even mineral).

[Old tanker]

Palm oil is different.
Unrefined. We practically do not have it, as it is expensive. Refined like our sunflower. But more expensive than it, as to lead on.
And the cheapest food hydrogenated, which is brought to us. It contains an abundance of fatty acids, which leads to an increase in cholesterol levels.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Old Tankman

And the cheapest food hydrogenated, which is brought to us. It contains an abundance of fatty acids, which leads to an increase in cholesterol levels.

You are wrong. Palm oil is already solid at room temperature and DOES NOT need to be hydrogenated. It is sunflower that is hydrogenated (now banned) ... Due to the restriction of the use of trans fats (hydrogenated vegetable oils) no more than 2% of the composition, and the import of palm oil has increased. As a HEALTHY substitute in margarines, and in confectionery ...

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Old Tankman

And the cheapest food hydrogenated, which is brought to us. It contains an abundance of fatty acids, which leads to an increase in cholesterol levels.

Here's a pretty clear article about it. Someone has clearly misled you.
https://rg.ru/2018/01/11/v-rossii-izmenilsia-tehreglament-na-maslozhirovuiu-produkciiu.html

[Old tanker]

By packing dishes. And as many sublimates as possible.

[Virus-free crown]

It will be necessary to try how they will be released for free sale)) I have already tried almost all the options, it’s hard to believe that 2 times more compact will also be tasty and without chemistry))

[cmax]

I was especially pleased with the name of the head of the department. Well, where else can a colonel with such a sonorous surname serve, not in the Marine Corps or in the landing. (this is not anti-Semitism, just an observation, if that.)

[Pereira]

So that's good. All food is kosher. Even pork. As far as I know, kosher and halyalists eat each other's food.

[Bolt cutter]

A bit wrong. Muslims can eat kosher, but Jews cannot eat halal - kosher standards are much stricter than halal ones.

[Destiny]

There will be many new things:

"We will change the packaging of the product itself. Instead of the usual lamister, it is laminated aluminum, and it is in this packaging that you see a publicly available army kit today - we are switching to a new polymer packaging. It is easier to place such canned food in clothes and warm it up, even just actively moving around. a puree, high-calorie and fortified dish, a piece of jerky and ran on "
The principle of heating food will also change: vitriol will be used as fuel instead of carbide.
"In NATO countries, the ration is heated with carbide. It emits a combustible gas. If suddenly two or three rations are punctured inside a combat vehicle, an explosive reaction begins. You never know, it shorted out from the electrics. We are switching to vitriol. The product is packaged with a double bottom. power supply, the second circuit is copper sulfate. We collapse and chemical heating begins. Harmless, odorless, with a very large return of thermal heat. As a result, no fire, inflammations and harmful gases "
"For a long time, our soldiers had aluminum bowlers, spoons and flasks. In the outfit of a soldier of the future" Ratnik "every gram of weight. And here we hang all this old, so also the mug rumbles when moving. Today this will also change. there will be completely plastic dishes, a flask, a mug, "said Nikhelman.
He explained that the flask can be inserted into a special aluminum base in which food can be reheated. "All this is very compact - in fact, a transformer, like a nesting doll, and has special secure attachments to the fighter's outfit"

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[garri-lin]

It's a shame. Is it a rejection of aluminum pallets? The most literate thing was in the soldering.

[Old tanker]

A plastic flask that is inserted into an aluminum base - hello US ARMY flask (and not only)! And this they give out for their achievement?

[tasha]

Here is a link to the full article. Some types of IRP will become more compact after replacing canned meat with jerky and "sneakers".

https://nvo.ng.ru/realty/2021-02-18/1_1129_food.html

[Old tanker]

Jerky on the march and on the march - the very thing. You go and eat your food. As well as sneakers. Spirits in Chechnya, all stuffed with sneakers, ran around the oor. And if there is an opportunity to melt them in a pot, and here's a pleasant, hearty dessert for you.

[TermNachTer]

Any military man who has been sitting "on tushnyak" for a long time, anyone, even the newest and the best, hates at the genetic level

[ultra]

Quote: TermNachTER

Any military man who has been sitting "on tushnyak" for a long time, anyone, even the newest and the best, hates at the genetic level

When a day without food, then on the drum.

[TermNachTer]

It used to be "and not ate for two days", nothing, no one died))) Only then it hurts to start eating, the throat hurts, as with a sore throat.

[Aag]

Quote: ultra

Quote: TermNachTER

Any military man who has been sitting "on tushnyak" for a long time, anyone, even the newest and the best, hates at the genetic level

When a day without food, then on the drum.

Even if 30 days, in the absence of an alternative! (To know how long it takes to stand "in the fields" - the 3rd, or more than 7 days. After that, the establishment of contacts with the local population began, the digging of smokehouses under the ration of frozen-frozen pollock. ..It's good if there was a person in the shift who knows, loves cooking, with a creative approach ... 20 percent of the DB problems were removed!)))

[TermNachTer]

There is a wonderful word - savvy. It is only in Russian. Others don't.

[Der Spiegel]

"riveting" is the Ukrainian version

[TermNachTer]

As a person who has lived all his life in Ukraine and is fluent in Ukrainian, I can tell you no. The expression of the former President Kuchma: "Demand mother rivets, in the head", if translated within the meaning, means - having no brains, in simple terms -.

[Der Spiegel]

living in Ukraine and being fluent in the language does not always help to be a philologist. In the semantic sense, the Ukrainian. "riveting" is translated as intelligence and ingenuity incl.
For example, in Poltoratsky: True, I’m even cleverer, I don’t buy, but a rivet in my head.
Which literally translates: "True, I have never been very smart, but I had ingenuity in my head" ... Somehow

[TermNachTer]

You can translate it in another way. It is neither literal nor semantic translation. Distantly, you can suggest the word "zmikituvav", but again, very distantly.

[Old tanker]

This is if you have not sat tightly on a dry meal before. Hunger for a year, and it got to the point that in a day from dry rations you eat only raisins and jam, well, vitamins. The rest just doesn't go to vomit.

[Krasnoyarsk]

Quote: TermNachTER

Any military man who has been sitting "on tushnyak" for a long time, anyone, even the newest and the best, hates at the genetic level

Yes, it is, but then it quickly passes. I remember during the liquidation of the Chernobyl accident, every day three times a day - "Iwashi spicy in oil", as an addition to the first and second. I asked the political officer - you would give at least "Sprat in tomato", which I could not stand. The answer is no, you should be covered in oil. After returning, a month later, I got bored. I looked in stores where there was no sale.

[TermNachTer]

Under the Soviet Union, "Sprat in a tomato", 33 kopecks, was of quite decent quality. I don’t know how it is now in Russia, but in Ukraine, a bank with a price of 12 - 17 hryvnia is simply disgusting.

[Dimide]

On YouTube, one shot constantly compares the rations of different armies.
The disadvantages of the Russian ones include the presence of cans in irp

[garri-lin]

Solidol is just a clown. These banks are the most literate thing in the world. You will not heat up all Nato standard rations on a fire in frost. And the Russian one is easy.

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

I remembered.
Two generals, ours and an American, are talking. Our general says:
- The Russian soldier has three meals a day, containing all the vitamins and minerals necessary for the human body, and as a result receives 2.000 Kcal per day.
- And our soldier gets 4.000 Kcal per day!
- You're lying, NATO muzzle, a soldier cannot eat so much barley!
ZY Does not apply to the article :)))))

[Dimide]

By the way, I remember the "combined porridge" in CA

[Genry]

Quote: Dimid

I remember the "combined porridge" in CA

Have you composed yourself and laugh yourself? There is one word when "it is quiet with itself".
And the fat was. Goo with a higher melting point.

[Dimide]

Don't be smart, you're not going. Kombikasha, in everyday use in ZabVO "compound feed" is a mixture of peas and chaff, seasoned with mixed fat, plus sauerkraut.

[Genry]

Quote: Dimid

a mixture of peas and chaff flavored with comb fat

I have not seen this. Composing exactly.
Pea or buckwheat porridge in Belarus was cooked almost without fat - you could stir in a ration of 20 grams of butter and eat it humanly.

[Dimide]

So you're in luck.
We were given porridge with stew, goulash, etc., or on Thursday with fish. If it were not for compound feed once, sometimes twice a week, there would be no questions about nutrition at all.

[Aag]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

I remembered.
Two generals, ours and an American, are talking. Our general says:
- The Russian soldier has three meals a day, containing all the vitamins and minerals necessary for the human body, and as a result receives 2.000 Kcal per day.
- And our soldier gets 4.000 Kcal per day!
- You're lying, NATO muzzle, a soldier cannot eat so much barley!
ZY Does not apply to the article :)))))

".... This article does not apply :)))))" "
Barley, if cooked correctly, is a product ... above average (on fishing with Father I ate all the bait until it was fully used for its intended purpose))) I took the last worthy (16r / 330gr) ... 12 years ago in "Slate" (network supermarkets), with tkshenkoy. On fishing, remote work, that's it!

[Andrei from Chelyabinsk]

Quote: AAG

Barley, if cooked correctly, is ... above average

I still sometimes take Kurgan - 330 grams of barley with beef.

[Aag]

Quote: Andrey from Chelyabinsk

Quote: AAG

Barley, if cooked correctly, is ... above average

I still sometimes take Kurgan - 330 grams of barley with beef.

About her (Kurgan), I'm puffing to write below ...
16p jar! When it came out only, - why - Brand! It seems like, and there is not much meat ... But harmony !! ..
Many fishing, hunting, then confirmed this.

[Old tanker]

For me, barley is the most delicious porridge. And even with meat! But it must be cooked for a long time and thoroughly, which is not done in canteens. Therefore, it is tasteless, hard. We called her in the school "kirza". But in the production of canned food, the technology is observed. And that's why it's delicious

[Aag]

Quote: Old Tanker

For me, barley is the most delicious porridge. And even with meat! But it must be cooked for a long time and thoroughly, which is not done in canteens. Therefore, it is tasteless, hard. We called her in the school "kirza". But in the production of canned food, the technology is observed. And that's why it's delicious

No fun: find your recipe - I assure you: barley, steamed, and with butter, (with good meat, you can do without butter), - will provide your energy consumption for several days, and aesthetic, culinary needs in adequate goal setting ...))

[Old tanker]

Are you talking to me, a fan of barley?)))) Read the first sentence of my post carefully

[Runway]

The difference between stew in the desert and in the Arctic?
In the first option - slurp, in the second - gnaw.
Canned food (meat and meat-vegetable, as well as a mass grave) + everything that is candied / freeze-dried can be stored for an average of up to 3 years.
But the bread ... an ambush. Rice biscuits burn very well.
The calorie content is "finished off" with fat and sugar, reducing the overall size of the package (which is gutted upon receipt, and the contents are smeared in the equipment).
The ration (dry ration) that compensates for the loss of moisture is something new. Double rate of water, a pinch of citric acid in a flask, grated kurt / salted nuts with breadcrumbs, "pastila" (nuts, dried apricots, raisins, grated black crackers and mixed with honey) stuffed into a "tube" from a film. You can stomp and chew. Long.

[Genry]

Quote: WFP

But the bread ... an ambush. Rice biscuits burn very well.

Let me tell you a secret: everything that contains calories burns.

[Aag]

Quote: WFP

The difference between stew in the desert and in the Arctic?
In the first option - slurp, in the second - gnaw.
Canned food (meat and meat-vegetable, as well as a mass grave) + everything that is candied / freeze-dried can be stored for an average of up to 3 years.
But the bread ... an ambush. Rice biscuits burn very well.
The calorie content is "finished off" with fat and sugar, reducing the overall size of the package (which is gutted upon receipt, and the contents are smeared in the equipment).
The ration (dry ration) that compensates for the loss of moisture is something new. Double rate of water, a pinch of citric acid in a flask, grated kurt / salted nuts with breadcrumbs, "pastila" (nuts, dried apricots, raisins, grated black crackers and mixed with honey) stuffed into a "tube" from a film. You can stomp and chew. Long.

Hopefully the issue of "water supply" stands apart. Although ...
Dried, subleamed meat (animal proteins) is good. But, in districts with a lack of available drinking water, it is a problem (if not evil ..).

[garri-lin]

In areas with a lack of water, dates should be included in the dry ration. It is high-calorie and eco-friendly water for digestion.

[Aag]

Quote: garri-lin

In areas with a lack of water, dates should be included in the dry ration. It is high-calorie and eco-friendly water for digestion.

Sorry, I missed something ... How (well, yes, there are products, substances that do not require "moisture" for their assimilation, digestion, on a generally accepted scale).
We decided on the technology for a long time - it's easier to solve the problem of heat supply than to remove heat ... In biology (bionics, it seems, it is more difficult).
Uh-uh, no, you are in the wrong steppe, and I follow you ...
As I understand it, for the course of biochemical processes, a certain solvent is needed, in our case, water. Where to get it? (Well, for example, Syria) (yes even, the Irkutsk region, regularly suffering from floods under certain conditions, may face lack of water ...

[garri-lin]

Different foods require different amounts of water to digest. Of the readily available dates, the minimum is required.

[Old tanker]

That is why dry rations for the desert and for the Arctic zone will be different.

[Runway]

We didn't have such (dried meat). Smoked sausage was handed out at the DP to fighters wearing night clothes. But rarely (due to "undershoot" to PFS). Replaced with condensed milk.
Water - a flask with a decoction of camel thorns as a binding, even if a person was wearing a "short" outfit.

[Ros 56]

On the occasion of a few years ago I used a snack for a snack, well, a very good thing, for a couple of days it was enough for us. Really delicious.

[Ros 56]

Well, we had no time for technological and sanitary norms, it just turned up on the occasion, and we took it on trial. High quality cardboard box packaging. I will testify - quite varied and tasty.

[uav80]

Our ration is stored for a maximum of two years. At the same time, it is constantly consumed as military units conduct combat training activities, so that there is always a fresh supply in warehouses

Of course, the warehouses do not stale, a year after receipt they are successfully relocated to store shelves ...

[iouris]

The soldier is what he eats and puts on.

[Prisoner]

Well, in the USSR Armed Forces, the dry rations were different. For the Airborne Forces, the norm is number 17, for the special forces, the standard, for example, or mountain again. Only they lived a lot, it was necessary to bring to life.

[three]

Better mountain-winter. Uh-h, there were times .... I also remember in some there was a dressing for borscht, so if it was in a frying pan, and stews there ... (at the point of the month they sat only on dry food, nothing like that). And instead of biscuits, black Voronezh large crackers. But I haven't tried this soldier's, officer's rations.

[Old26]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

I should try ... According to rumors, quite decent rations. Who tried it, unsubscribe? I wonder what our boys are fed with?

Evgeniy! Several years ago we went out into the countryside quite often (most often fishing). They took with them as NZ soldering. I really didn't do it (rations), so I can't say what exactly those rations were, but the taste is quite.

[Avior]

Sukhpay SA was remembered just like that

Plus half a loaf of bread was given
The stew was good, the porridge was so-so
But they pinched the dry ration, they gave it very reluctantly, I don't know what the reason is
I remember when, on the way to the winter field camp, at first they were given two pieces of bread and a can of canned food for three for lunch.
Until the field kitchen was set up. Porridge and stew in jars were given to the field kitchen.
You could eat in a special tent, but while you bring the pot, the porridge is covered with an icy crust, and in the tent this is also a minus.
Not a picnic, in general, no romance

[for]

Quote: Avior

But they pinched the dry ration, they gave it very reluctantly, I don't know what the reason is

You just don't know.

[Avior]

I guess, of course, now.
But then it was taken simply as a fact - sukhpai were given only in very special situations. And the fact that you obviously did not get to breakfast and dinner in time is your problem, it so happened

[Aag]

Quote: Avior

Sukhpay SA was remembered just like that

Plus half a loaf of bread was given
The stew was good, the porridge was so-so
But they pinched the dry ration, they gave it very reluctantly, I don't know what the reason is
I remember when, on the way to the winter field camp, at first they were given two pieces of bread and a can of canned food for three for lunch.
Until the field kitchen was set up. Porridge and stew in jars were given to the field kitchen.
You could eat in a special tent, but while you bring the pot, the porridge is covered with an icy crust, and in the tent this is also a minus.
Not a picnic, in general, no romance

You can, of course, argue, be indignant, praise ...
I think it is worth considering .... "a lot of polarity" ... Were in my group (GPP, -group of preparation and launch) at the Poplar complex ... And mushrooms, berries, -in the season ... What to lie -that: they stole cabbage, potatoes ... (monetary allowance, -extremely irregular ...
It did not last long - everything changed, practically, diametrically ...
Sorry, I didn’t take part in combat actions ... But the BD (alert duty, in various conditions of the situation, they carried it right ...

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Petr1

The list of countries where palm oil is living out its last days, even as part of household chemicals, is huge:

Austria
Albania
Andorra
Belgium
Bulgaria Bosnia and Herzegovina
Vatican
United Kingdom
Hungary
Germany
Greece
Denmark
Ireland
Iceland
Spain
Italy
Latvia
Lithuania
Liechtenstein
Luxembourg
Malta
Moldavia
Monaco
Netherlands
Norway
Poland
Portugal
Romania
San Marino
North Macedonia
Serbia
Slovakia
Slovenia
Finland
France
Croatia
Montenegro
Czech Republic
Switzerland
Sweden
Estonia.

Ukraine and Belarus are not included in this list. In Russia, palm oil is used everywhere and there is no talk of giving up this product at all.

The couple does not agree with the loan

[Gennady Fomkin]

I then see important Experts "on agriculture." Their "dissenting opinion" express It is funny to observe how the Fritzes are tying the goose liver with boxes, which makes the cashier's eyes bulge.

[Radical]

Quote: tasha

Here is a link to the full article. Some types of IRP will become more compact after replacing canned meat with jerky and "sneakers".

https://nvo.ng.ru/realty/2021-02-18/1_1129_food.html

Further, following this "logic", they, in turn, can be replaced with heels of packs of bubble gum, and a couple of packs of cigarettes, all this will fit in the pockets of the "lump". The fighter needs it, such an "optimization"?

[tasha]

Your comment is unsuccessful and the logic failed this time.

[113262a]

I had the Happiness to taste (more than I would like) Soviet dry rations and modern Russian and Ukrainian (trophy) IRPs. Honestly speaking, Russian blue is tastier than green, after the Ukrainian one, heartburn immediately tortured me (a lot of fat). Both those and others and the third-lose to the Soviet-thus, wrapped in paper, two cans of porridge, minced sausage or stew, biscuits or crackers, sugar and tea. (Tea, of course, nikosovy!) There really was MEAT, and Taste and smell. Edible even cold - even in the cold), even hot. Until -15, stew and porridge did not turn to stone. Modern-slightly below zero-everything, ice! Just warm up. And if not very hungry, it is better not to eat them! In the stomach, it all swells up strongly (as intended) and heartburn begins again! On the hungry-passes-Hurray! Again heh-Russian blue-tastier!

[Zlyden.Zlo]

SoLiD got a job ... I'll see his review.

[faterdom]

The case when I read about the rations and remained hungry and in the same state as before reading: maybe good, maybe not, until you try (more than once, for me the criterion is two weeks), and you don't know what to think about them.
Here a personal impression is 99,999% more important than the reports of any general with two, three, five stars. However, with five - these are not our generals, we do not expect any good from them.
Even excellent Soviet food rations (after trying the NATO ones I realized how much our food is compared to those "delicacies") in two weeks ... we got so tired that we almost ate the first Soviet canteen with sour borsch, cutlets and scrambled eggs together with the cooks and cashier.
In short, what I'm driving at: a hundred of such rations must be sent out by a VO participant and obliged to describe all their taste and organoleptic impressions, ease of use, comparison with samples previously eaten during a long-suffering life ... Yes, no ppm - the result will be hopelessly distorted.

[Bradley]

Why won't they make an analogue of MRE in terms of content and content?

[garri-lin]

Because the very concept is gibberish. And the embodiment is so just do on the star of the Hero of Russia pulls.

[Bradley]

Well, yes, better than tons of sugar and fat, like in our RPI?

[garri-lin]

Fat, if correct, is perfectly acceptable. Sugar is put in more for accountability. It is not necessary to have it. But I like the quality of the main dishes in Russian rations more. As well as methods of preservation and packaging.

[Bradley]

What fat, what sugar - calories!
We have nothing stewed, but jam with tea. Amers' dishes are tastier and more satisfying, because sugar and fat do not eat calories. Their packaging is better, it is easier to put it in a backpack, and in our case, in a crouton.

[garri-lin]

Amers have dishes on flavor enhancers. They are very difficult to eat. The feeling of hunger remains. I am silent about chemistry. Their packaging is good on the base. Or in a field cafeteria. And in the field, in the wind at minus 20, Russian trays are much more convenient. The fact of the matter is that you need to hide their soldering in a backpack. And the Russian ration can be found outside. By weight, what is ours for a day, that they are about parity for a day. Ours is a little harder.

[Bradley]

They do not have a daily allowance, and the daily allowance is several MREs. And there will be more in real calories.
Chemistry is so everywhere, even in stew meat, coffee, jam and many other places. And I do not agree about satiety, their food seemed to me more satisfying. Well, brighter to taste, yes. Chemistry ...
But it would be interesting to look at their packaging in a frost at -20. Although if there is a knife, then the rules.

[garri-lin]

Three MPEs are equivalent to daily. Roughly 1500 kcal each. 4500 is about the same as ours. The weight will be less. But the total weight of the package is more. A lot of sachets are quite dense. I don't know satiety. Tried it only a few times and frankly didn’t gorge itself. Feeling like after visiting McDonald's or Burgerking. And the stomach is full and there is a desire to eat. If the heater does not work, then in the cold it is unrealistic to heat it up without a pot. And this is extra weight to carry.

[Bradley]

Quite satisfying. Yes, there was a similar taste from the Poppy, there is such.
And if the heater does not work, then yes, it will not be very pleasant to eat in the cold.
Now I don't know how we are with the IRP, but it seems like they also switched to chemistry in terms of heating food?

[garri-lin]

I have not seen new ones on sale. Usually I take it from Voentorg a year and a half ago. Everything is the old fashioned way. But judging by the ads, yes. They switch to demetal packaging and chemical heating. As for me, this is a step back.

[Bradley]

There is not an open flame, not so pale. And steam dissipates faster than smoke.

[garri-lin]

The fire is still needed. It will keep warm, dry. The bonfire is almost invisible and smokeless. The smell gives out. The rest can be hidden.

[Bradley]

Steam is easier to get rid of. And besides, it is not always possible to light a fire, sometimes you have to be quieter than grass and below water. And just to warm up the canned food with a tablet of norms, and if the packaging is of the same type as that of the Americans, then this is a problem. Perhaps in a bowler hat.

[garri-lin]

Well, if we talk about intelligence or similar sub-divisions, then yes. They need maximum secrecy.

[Radical]

Quote: tasha

Your comment is unsuccessful and the logic failed this time.

You have a problem with the logic of your problem, but my logic is simple - what kind of food is this without canned meat? Or maybe we will switch to the Tuareg diet, for whom, during long nomadic journeys, all products are replaced by a bag of dates and a wineskin of water?

[Runway]

Probably there is meat and porridge in the dry ration. Only it becomes possible to consume them, once a day and without "races". And to support the pants during the day in terms of calories - probably for this and cook all sorts of "bars".

[tasha]

I think you should read the entire article carefully.

[agoran]

From what I've tried:
American - cardboard box, various food in soft bags. What I remember is Chicken with beans, which is still disgusting. I put the dog in a plate, he came up, licked, looked at me reproachfully, like the owner, what did you do wrong?
I liked the French summer lunch ration.
Packaging in a transparent blister. A large glass of vegetable soup. I don't like "grass", but after brewing it I ate it with pleasure. A small jar of meat pâté. A few pieces of smoked meat, cheese, a few lettuce leaves, some large grapes. For sweet marmalade in a jar.

[Keer]

Did the Ministry of Defense take up the development itself? That's the number. And the set of grub cannot be universal, it depends on temperature, humidity, altitude, STE in place and task can only be determined. Well, they sank a little. Why shine, then? ..

[Klingon]

carbohydrates give a quick energy boost, but it also ends quickly. I know this from my practice, cycling in the mountains. Therefore, all sorts of soy bars with chocolate or nuts are always in the store. helps a lot when you need to twist up the hill for a long time. But when it's cold, heavy fats are used there. So they do everything right, the climate must be taken into account

[tacet]

"We have a lot of carbohydrate foods." A kilogram of sugar - and in general the question of energy is closed. ))))

[Alex Justice]

Who knows, Ukrainians have delicious rations?