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Swiss press: Illusions drive Russia into international isolation

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Swiss press: Illusions drive Russia into international isolation

Russia needs to establish normal relations with the West, otherwise it will be isolated from the outside world. And the Kremlin should not feed the illusion in Russians that they are surrounded by enemies on all sides, since they are driving Russia into international isolation.


This opinion was expressed by Markus Ziner in his article published by the Swiss newspaper Neue Zürcher Zeitung.

He believes that the Russian leadership is imposing a "myth" on the population about the Western threat to make it easier to manage. The author called it a "political lie" that helps the current president of the Russian Federation to stay in power for so long.

Russia lives primarily at the expense of false stories.

- declares Tsiner.

In his opinion, for many years the leadership of the Russian Federation has been actively using the fact that repeated lies “get stuck” in the minds of people and make them perceive it as truth. Therefore, the Kremlin stubbornly promotes the idea that the West is showing disrespect to Russia, treating it with hostility and trying to humiliate it at any opportunity.

And although Tsiner tries to refute these allegations and voices them with noticeable sarcasm, calling them "paranoid illusions", the actual actions of Western countries fully confirm them.

Moreover, Mr. Tsiner does not recall the behavior of Western countries towards the late USSR, when they patted Gorbachev on the shoulder with one hand and supported separatist sentiments in the republics with the other.

Of course, Russia is not against the normalization of relations with the West and is open for dialogue, of course, not forgetting about its own interests, but it seems that the first step in this direction should be taken by the Western partners.
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  1. APASUS
    APASUS 16 February 2021 09: 30
    +43
    Russia lives primarily at the expense of false stories, says Tsiner.

    This Tsiner lives in some kind of a world of illusions. A number of sanctions introduced from 14 against Russia is proof of this. And some of them were introduced on the basis of speculation about the use of chemical weapons and others.
    1. Destiny
      Destiny 16 February 2021 09: 39
      +37
      It is Ciner who lives in a country that has not fought with anyone for two centuries and has been neutral for the same amount of time and is accustomed to living without external threats and territorial disputes with neighbors. It is easy for him to be clever, to Ciner.
      1. Artyom Karagodin
        Artyom Karagodin 16 February 2021 09: 51
        +42
        In-in. I just don’t understand, is he sincerely sure that the West wishes Russia well? Then he is paranoid, not us.
        1. zloybond
          zloybond 16 February 2021 10: 02
          +19
          I think this is directed here, so that local free writers pick up and screech, look !!! .... The usual order. It would be better if they returned the exported values ​​to Russia.
          1. Ross xnumx
            Ross xnumx 16 February 2021 11: 00
            -4
            Quote: zloybond
            It would be better if they returned the exported values ​​to Russia.

            I do not understand you. Valuables were taken out by the Russian nouveau riche under the guise of "legally acquired" and "legally acquired". But I have never heard that Russia demanded the return of these values ​​in connection with a criminal or some other speculative way of acquiring them, as well as the thieves registered in the West. This is a completely different question, which does not concern either the reasons for the isolation of Russia, or the prejudiced attitude towards it, or the deliberate expansion of NATO to the east, or the imposed sanctions, or the breakdown of treaties, or accusations of the state doping program, or in matters of chemical weapons, or .. ...
            Why, then, to this uncle and others like him, Mr. Lavrov and the company will not present claims for "neutrality" in WWII? Why are there still funds in European banks that belong to Russia as the successor to the USSR? It is even believed that there are assets of the royal family.
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 16 February 2021 19: 08
              0
              No, neither Tsiner nor Neue Zucher Zeitung realized the warning. They continue to engage in impudent false Russophobia.
        2. Orange bigg
          Orange bigg 16 February 2021 10: 02
          +11
          Quote: Artyom Karagodin
          In-in. I just don’t understand, is he sincerely sure that the West wishes Russia well? Then he is paranoid, not us.

          He is sure that he can hang on our ears. This is the Western media. Information war with all the ensuing consequences. Remember what they wrote about our country before the 2014 Olympics in Sochi.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 16 February 2021 10: 17
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            Quote: OrangeBigg
            He is sure that he can hang on our ears. This is the Western media.

            Precisely, only domestic, spiritually strong media can be allowed to hang noodles on the ears of citizens.
            1. APASUS
              APASUS 16 February 2021 10: 27
              +9
              Quote: aleksejkabanets
              Precisely, only domestic, spiritually strong media can be allowed to hang noodles on the ears of citizens.

              Noodles are noodles, our media are just children in comparison with the West. They are trying to convince us that it is only for the good of Russia that the introduction of sanctions! Or how in the 90s they brought us democracy, and then it turned out that democracy is primarily poverty, the collapse of the economy and freedom of the media, where you can say that you were robbed.
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 16 February 2021 10: 35
                .
                Quote: APASUS
                Noodles noodles

                Yes brost you, she noodles and noodles in Africa.))))
                Quote: APASUS
                our media are just children compared to the West

                Yes, but they learn quickly.
                Quote: APASUS
                Or how in the 90s they brought us democracy, and then it turned out that democracy is primarily poverty, the collapse of the economy and freedom of the media, where you can say that you were robbed.

                Well, yes, then both our and their media went so hard that it is still sickening. And when we get out of all this substance, only God knows.
                1. Cottodraton
                  Cottodraton 16 February 2021 19: 18
                  +2
                  You will then crawl out of the substance when you learn to work and respect society at least half of yourself
              2. Fan-fan
                Fan-fan 16 February 2021 11: 52
                .
                You just hang the noodles.
                A number of sanctions imposed from 14 against Russia

                Are not against Russia, these sanctions against officials. Russia will not suffer from these sanctions.
                1. Olgovich
                  Olgovich 16 February 2021 12: 20
                  +9
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  then just hang noodles.

                  A number of sanctions imposed from 14 against Russia

                  Are not these sanctions against Russia? against officials. Russia will not suffer from these sanctions.

                  when you speak. it feels like you're delusional. fool

                  A SMALL part of the list of existing sanctions and only part of the 14th year:
                  The licensing of exports to Russia was terminated defense goods and services
                  Occasion: Ukraine

                  11 April
                  Sanctions were imposed on seven Crimean officials and company "Chernomorneftegaz"
                  Occasion: Ukraine

                  28 April
                  Sanctions in17 companies were run. It is forbidden to sell high-tech goods to Russia, which can enhance the combat capability of the army
                  Occasion: Ukraine

                  12 May
                  The list includes 13 people, as well as company "Chernomorneftegaz" and "Feodosia"
                  Occasion: Ukraine


                  July 16
                  Sectoral sanctions introduced - Rosneft, Novatek, Vnesheconombank and Gazprombank, as well as military corporations Almaz-Antey, Kalashnikov concern, NPO Bazalt (produces aerial bombs) and Uralvagonzavod"(tank manufacturer)
                  Occasion: Ukraine

                  July 18
                  European Investment Bank has stopped financing projects in Russia
                  Occasion: Ukraine

                  July 29
                  Sanctions were imposed against the state-owned banks "Bank of Moscow" (at that time it was in the process of being absorbed by VTB), VTB itself and "Rosselkhozbank". Also introduced sanctions against United Shipbuilding Corporation
                  Occasion: Ukraine

                  July 30
                  8 individuals and 3 legal entities have been added to the list - Russian National Commercial Bank, tooncern "Almaz-Antey" and airline "Dobrolet". A ban has been introduced on investments in the infrastructure, transport and energy sectors of Russia, as well as on oil and gas production in the territory of the Russian Federation. European companies are prohibited from supplying equipment for these sectors, as well as providing financial services to companies from the infrastructure, transport and energy sectors of Russia
                  Occasion: Ukraine

                  July 31
                  Sanctions were introduced against Sberbank of Russia, VTB, Gazprombank, Vnesheconombank, and Rosselkhozbank. Also introduced an embargo on the import and export of weapons to Russia, a ban on the export of dual-use goods and technology for military use
                  Occasion: Ukraine

                  6 August
                  To Russia sThe supply of equipment for deep oil and gas production, development of the Arctic shelf and production of shale oil and gas reserves is prohibited. Also prohibited are deliveries to Russia of drilling platforms, parts for horizontal drilling, subsea equipment, offshore equipment for working in the Arctic, software for hydraulic fracturing
                  Occasion: Ukraine

                  etc. etc.


                  this is not against Russia already seven years working? "Will not get hurt? fool
                  1. bk0010
                    bk0010 16 February 2021 21: 40
                    +2
                    Quote: Olgovich
                    This is not against Russia for seven years now? "Will not get hurt?
                    To summarize:
                    1) Sanctions against officials - do not care, an extra guarantee that they will not drain the loot over the hill.
                    2) Sanctions against the defense industry - thank God, you won't have to deal with import substitution during the war. Plus, there will be a reason to restore the services that purchased special equipment during the Soviet era. Still, it would be great to declare all the intellectual property of the West (technologies, programs, books, films) as trophies (within the framework of anti-sanctions).
                    3) Equipment for deep oil and gas production plus shale equipment - at current and projected oil prices, it is not relevant at all. That will be oil at $ 120 per barrel, then yes, it will be offensive. Plus it is nice that the ruining American shale producers will not be able to throw off their "second hand" to us.
                    4) Sanctions against banks - yes, there are real problems, but I am glad that bankers felt themselves in the shoes of a Russian when you cannot take a loan over the hill at 0.5% per annum and issue it here at a rate of 8% or more.
                2. APASUS
                  APASUS 16 February 2021 12: 25
                  +5
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  Are not against Russia, these sanctions against officials. Russia will not suffer from these sanctions.

                  Do you think that the sanctions imposed on organizations will help us? What then?
                  with 14 years

                  1 The annexation of Crimea and events in eastern Ukraine sanctions were imposed on 293 individuals and 483 legal entities
                  2 Death of Sergei Magnitsky, corruption and human rights violations
                  sanctions were imposed on 61 individuals and 7 legal entities
                  3 Sanctions under the Counter America's Adversaries Act (CAATSA) *
                  sanctions were imposed on 32 individuals and 43 legal entities
                  4 Supporting the Government of Syria
                  sanctions were imposed on 12 individuals and 6 legal entities
                  5 Sale of goods or weapons to the DPRK, Iran and Syria
                  Sanctions are imposed on 6 individuals and 16 legal entities
                  6 Use of chemical weapons (unproven use)
                  sanctions are imposed on 10 individuals and 1 legal entity
                  7 Supporting the Government of Venezuela
                  Sanctions imposed on 4 legal entities
                  8 Supporting arms supplies to Libya
                  The sanctions are imposed on 1 individual.
                  Read more at RBC:
                  https://www.rbc.ru/politics/19/01/2021/5bffb0f09a79470ff5378627
              3. major147
                major147 17 February 2021 22: 32
                +2
                Quote: APASUS
                in the 90s they brought us democracy, and then it turned out that democracy is, first of all, poverty, the collapse of the economy and freedom of the media, where you can say that you have been robbed.

                This is "democracy" in their understanding. It has nothing to do with real democracy.
          2. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 16 February 2021 10: 31
            +18
            Quote: OrangeBigg
            Remember what they wrote about our country before the 2014 Olympics in Sochi.

            And about how "disinterestedly" they wished "good" for Ukraine and what security guarantees they gave - let Vitka Yanukovych be asked, he still hiccups and pisses at night.
            1. Fan-fan
              Fan-fan 16 February 2021 12: 04
              .
              I agree that Yanukovych was fooled, but with sports, they are right, our people, too, at first rejected doping, and then they still confessed and asked for forgiveness. Why do we need our leaders to instill that Russia is a besieged fortress? What are all the enemies around? I agree that there are enough enemies, but that all enemies are nonsense. What kind of country are we if we oppose ourselves to the whole world? Why don't we have allies? Maybe it's us?
              After all, the whole world believes that we hounded Skripals and Navalny, that we shot down a Boeing over Donbas, that we did not destroy all chemical weapons, and we ourselves give a reason for this, right.
              In 1983, too, Boeing was shot down over Sakhalin and also at first denied it.
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              2. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 16 February 2021 14: 28
                +8
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                Why do we need our leaders to instill that Russia is a besieged fortress? What are all the enemies around? I agree that there are enough enemies, but that all enemies are nonsense.
                List your friends? And yet, yes, perhaps at the everyday level we have no enemies, just as at the everyday level they do not consider us exclusively from a hostile point of perception. But the fact is that politics is determined not at the everyday level, but at the level of the political leadership of the countries, which demonstrates clear hostility towards Russia to the detriment of relations between the peoples themselves.
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                Why don't we have allies? Maybe it's us?

                Nope, not in us. No one has allies, but there are temporary companions and then, in a separate historical period of time.
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                After all, the whole world believes that we hounded Skripals and Navalny, that we shot down a Boeing over Donbas, that we did not destroy all chemical weapons and we ourselves give a reason for this, so after all.
                Not this way. There is no objective evidence for any of the listed "facts", that is, all this is nothing more than fiction.
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                In 1983, too, Boeing was shot down over Sakhalin and also at first denied it.

                Is it? In my opinion, they immediately recognized it, but I will not persist. not quite in the know and this topic should be additionally ventilated. yes
              3. IvaNik
                IvaNik 17 February 2021 14: 32
                +3
                It's strange how the G7 with a bunch of hangers-on even this 30 to a maximum of 40 countries became the whole world? And just in general, who said or who appointed these countries civilized, according to what parameters to evaluate them: the number of colonies, in relation to the aborigines of these colonies (American Indians, Indians, Austrolian aborigines or peoples of the north of Europe), or in relation to dissent and other religions (Varfolomeevskaya night, crusades, etc.)?
                And how it happened that in a country with a highly developed chemical industry, a chemical warfare agent, designed to hit the enemy with the slightest concentration, could not poison anyone. And with the way in which the bulk was poisoned, the victims should have at least the floor of the plane, and given the closed circuit of air circulation, the entire plane.
                Boeing over Donbass is a stuffed owl which, for 7 years now, they have been trying to pull it onto the globe, and it keeps breaking, trying to sew, but the seams creep and thick white threads are visible all over the world.
                Boeing 83rd year, every self-respecting country has the right to protect its borders and secrets by all available means. Responsibility is borne by the one who gave the order for this flight. The Soviet Union extended its condolences to all the victims, as is customary throughout the "civilized" world.
              4. boris epstein
                boris epstein 17 February 2021 16: 32
                +1
                It was not a passenger plane, but a reconnaissance plane that was shot down. The passenger successfully flew. At one time they went from Anchorage airbase on a parallel course wing to wing and identified as one target. But when the target split, a Soviet fighter took off. The reconnaissance aircraft did not respond to radio inquiries, did not respond to the warning fire, but continued on its own course and conducted an accelerated radio transmission. The Soviet ships managed to reach the crash site before anyone else, sank to the bottom, and took pictures. No human remains have been found.
                It is the same with Boeing in Donbass. Find the article "Sensational investigation by an SBU officer." Colonel Vasily Prozorov with documents proves that the plane was shot down by the APU.
                "What kind of country are we if we oppose ourselves to the whole world?"
                No, we are not opposing ourselves to the whole world. The West liked Yeltsin's Russia until it lost its pulse. And when Russia gradually began to climb out of the Gorbachev-Yeltsin pit, sanctions followed. Proof - look at the trend in oil prices under Yeltsin and after him.
                Yes, and with the Skripals, what kind of BATTLE poisonous substance, after which Skripali and NavRalny survived?
                1. blackice
                  blackice 18 February 2021 09: 49
                  0
                  Basically, I agree, but not quite.
                  Our government simply began to behave like the new Russians who once got the opportunity to travel to Europe.
                  In the first years of Putin's rule, everything was fine with the West. He was even the man of the year and literally all the heads of state sought to communicate with Putin, remember Hu from Putin ?. But then something went wrong. When our government, officials, deputies and others began to actively feel themselves masters of life in Europe, many did not like it.
                  In my opinion, making insidious enemies out of Europe would be a mistake.
                  Mattress toppers, yes, they do not tolerate everyone who tries to get to their level, so there has always been close mutual claims. But this does not prevent many high-ranking "patriots" in the mattress from having business, accounts, real estate and family citizenship.
              5. major147
                major147 17 February 2021 22: 41
                +2
                Quote: Fan-Fan
                In 1983, too, Boeing was shot down over Sakhalin and also at first denied it.

                Then, for the sake of justice, you need to remember how an American ship shot down a passenger plane and the ship's commander was awarded for this ...
              6. blackice
                blackice 18 February 2021 09: 34
                0
                It's not true about Boeing over Sakhalin.
                They showed everything right away. But the question why Boeing ignored all requests and commands is a question.
                About doping - I agree. But there are many questions for Western friends. For as the sun-face said, why only asthmatics are in the biathlon teams of one country?
                Here, the recognition of doping was rather reflected in the preservation of one's capital, because keeping money in the pocket of the one who accuses you of all sins was immediately a bad idea.
                Poisoning of Skripal and Bulk? I beg you!!!!
                The special services would be engaged in this garbage when only downs would work in it.
                Especially with piled up. First, the bottle was poisoned, then the tea at the airport, and then the panties. Maybe his life was poisoned? For all his not love for the nullified one, the circus with Skripals and Bulk is not his job.
                Well, there are no allies due to the fact that our power consists of thieves who decided that they could bend the gopniks (mattresses), but alas, they did not calculate the strength. Well, again, our thieves at one time gave their hard-earned money to the same gopniks, so they are forced to pay for their mistakes at the expense of the population of their country.
            2. Kushka
              Kushka 16 February 2021 13: 54
              -4
              Who gave him guarantees - two assholes
              from Europe and neither sew a mare's tail?
              Is this the West, all straight? What is the "subject" such
              and guarantees.
              1. Nyrobsky
                Nyrobsky 16 February 2021 14: 14
                +7
                Quote: Kushka
                Who gave him guarantees?

                This is not for me Tolik, this is for Vitka, he knows ..
                Quote: Kushka
                two assholes
                from Europe and neither sew a mare's tail?
                Not both, but both and those from the category of central. And how much do you need? All countries represented in PACE?
                Quote: Kushka
                Is this the West, all straight?

                Where about the West dug it?
                Quote: Kushka
                What is the "subject" such
                and guarantees.

                A bit wrong. What are the guarantors, so are the guarantees - the subject itself, the value is not constant and varies depending on the interests of the guarantors. Right now they have to give them a shit all over Ukraine, because they have not acquired anything except hemorrhoids, however, they cannot say that this beggar has tired them either, and therefore they are waiting for the problem to resolve by itself.
                1. Kushka
                  Kushka 16 February 2021 14: 52
                  -2
                  So I say that this is not shaved
                  either Franck or Walter and the lousy Pole
                  only a child could trust. Not for nothing Lukin
                  did not subscribe - lit Janek, hung his ears.
                  And about hemorrhoids you are wrong - it is just
                  and was originally conceived and supported
                  carefully. This was and is the goal. Now the goal
                  number two is Belarus. Or do you naively believe
                  what kind uncles from over the hill wanted to do so much
                  well, well, they wanted so badly, they were already sweating themselves
                  it hurts to tears. About the "kind" fox Alice and
                  Did you read Basilio's cat as a child ?. Everything is clearly written there.
                  1. Nyrobsky
                    Nyrobsky 16 February 2021 17: 19
                    +1
                    Quote: Kushka
                    Now the goal
                    number two is Belarus. Or do you fondly believe,
                    what kind uncles from over the hill wanted to do so much
                    well, well, they wanted so badly, they were already sweating themselves
                    it hurts to cry.

                    Ahem. winked Yes, as if I do not believe anything at all, especially naive. Intrigued! How do you manage to find something that I didn't write about in my commentary? request
                    Quote: Kushka
                    Did you read about the "kind" fox Alice and the cat Basilio in childhood? Everything is clearly written there.
                    belay Got it. I will not bother you. Retreating, so as not to run into a question about Winnipuh and Carlson.
                    1. Kushka
                      Kushka 16 February 2021 17: 59
                      -1
                      Taking off my hat! You have a lot to learn.
                      (Not everyone knows how to react with humor to
                      excessive expression of the opponent).
          3. Roman070280
            Roman070280 16 February 2021 12: 25
            +2
            He is sure that he can hang on our ears.

            And he is right .. you really did hang on her ..
            But not at all ...
          4. bayard
            bayard 16 February 2021 13: 34
            +3
            Quote: OrangeBigg
            He is sure that he can hang on our ears.

            He is the one who does only evil
            He tells everyone that he thinks about the good ... (free arrangement by Shakespeare).
        3. lucul
          lucul 16 February 2021 10: 03
          +14
          I just don’t understand, is he sincerely sure that the West wishes Russia well? Then he is paranoid, not us.

          Europe reminds me of the woman who "I was chasing you 5 km to tell you how indifferent you are to me."
          1. Lionnvrsk
            Lionnvrsk 16 February 2021 10: 16
            +7
            Quote: lucul
            I was chasing you 5 km

            "Three days! Three days I chased you to say how indifferent you are to me!" (C) hi
          2. Brturin
            Brturin 16 February 2021 10: 34
            +6
            Quote: lucul
            to tell you how I care about you. "

            are indifferent ... and at the same time, Maas scares that the break with Europe "will bring Russia and China together" ... and at the same time "China, for the first time ever, has become the largest trading partner of the European Union, displacing from the first position the historical ally of the EU - According to the report of the statistical agency of the European Commission - Eurostat, released on Monday ... Last year, EU imports from China increased by 5,6% to € 383,5 billion, exports to China - by 2,2% - to € 202,5 billion. From the US, the dynamics are opposite - American imports to the EU fell by 13,2% - to € 202 billion, while EU exports to the United States fell by 8,2% - to € 353 billion. " https://tass.ru/ekonomika/10706437.
        4. Cananecat
          Cananecat 16 February 2021 10: 34
          +8
          In-in. I just don’t understand, is he sincerely sure that the West wishes Russia well? Then he is paranoid, not us.

          He's not a bit paranoid. And these words are not addressed to us, but to the local electorate. They need to create the appearance of the correct course towards Moscow.
        5. Lionnvrsk
          Lionnvrsk 16 February 2021 10: 36
          +10
          Quote: Artyom Karagodin
          Is he sincerely convinced that the West wishes Russia well?

          Duplicity and hypocrisy are at the core of European diplomacy. This is about them:
          "Hypocrites are the kind of people who pretend to stroke you while wiping their dirty hands on you. Juliana Wilson"
          "We are so used to pretending to others that in the end we start pretending to ourselves." Francois de La Rochefoucauld
          But Vladimir Ilyich said so: - "Honesty in politics is the result of strength, and hypocrisy is the result of weakness."
          1. major147
            major147 17 February 2021 22: 52
            +3
            Quote: LIONnvrsk
            Quote: Artyom Karagodin
            Is he sincerely convinced that the West wishes Russia well?

            Duplicity and hypocrisy are at the core of European diplomacy. This is about them:
            "Hypocrites are the kind of people who pretend to stroke you while wiping their dirty hands on you. Juliana Wilson"
            "We are so used to pretending to others that in the end we start pretending to ourselves." Francois de La Rochefoucauld
            But Vladimir Ilyich said so: - "Honesty in politics is the result of strength, and hypocrisy is the result of weakness."

            That's why the West for me is the Empire of Lies!
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 16 February 2021 09: 53
        +13
        But the money was kept by all the warring parties!
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 16 February 2021 10: 24
          +4
          Quote: tralflot1832
          But the money was kept by all the warring parties!

          Due to what he lives
          1. tralflot1832
            tralflot1832 16 February 2021 10: 29
            +3
            I have a suspicion that not all the crowns from the teeth of the victims of the concentration camps were given to the Jews. Well, the banker cannot give everything, only if he squeezes the Faberge in a vice, and then he will not give it back.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 16 February 2021 10: 34
              +3
              Quote: tralflot1832
              Well, a banker cannot give everything, only if he squeezes the Faberge in a vice, and then he will not give it back.

              Zashtatniki not only don’t give their gold to the Germans, they refuse to show it
              1. tralflot1832
                tralflot1832 16 February 2021 10: 38
                0
                600 tons like in the USA for "storage" by the Germans!
                1. Lipchanin
                  Lipchanin 16 February 2021 10: 41
                  +2
                  Nope. As soon as WWII ended, they took out all the German gold
                  Only the French then miraculously returned their gold back
            2. boris epstein
              boris epstein 17 February 2021 16: 51
              +1
              Why only crowns and only Jews? And how many paintings, carpets, sculptures in museums and from citizens of the USSR were stolen by the Nazis? And when the conversation turned to the return of values ​​to the previous owners, Germany replied that they are PRIVATE PROPERTY, and it is sacred and inviolable. And the USSR returned the treasures of the Dresden Gallery, moreover, restored.
          2. major147
            major147 17 February 2021 22: 57
            +1
            Quote: Lipchanin
            Quote: tralflot1832
            But the money was kept by all the warring parties!

            Due to what he lives

            The "civilized world" has been robbing its colonies to the bone for hundreds of years, and due to this it has risen. But recently, by historical standards, the colonies have made them a pen and "everything that was acquired by back-breaking labor" is coming to an end. So they are looking for someone else to join the "civilized world" and ride on their hump.
        2. avg
          avg 16 February 2021 10: 35
          +12
          Quote: tralflot1832
          But the money was kept by all the warring parties!

          And she had a good gesheft, and was promoted as "the most reliable safe in the world." But, as soon as the United States needed the money to flow to them, they only poked it once and Switzerland handed over everything. That's just such an approach, this Mr. and understands.
      3. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 16 February 2021 09: 55
        +12
        Russia needs to establish normal relations with the West, otherwise it will be isolated from the outside world.

        Old songs about the main thing from the time of Obama about how he immediately isolated Russia. The outside world is far from just the West. I don't think we need any kind of relationship with this hypocritical West. Nothing good can be expected from them, the "holy 90s" and their consequences for our country confirm my words. And what we should and what should not we somehow figure it out ourselves.
        He believes that the Russian leadership is imposing a "myth" on the population about the Western threat,

        Myth Tell us about this myth about the Western threat to Yugoslavia, Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan, Ukraine, Belarus ... the list goes on.
        1. Cottodraton
          Cottodraton 16 February 2021 19: 26
          +1
          I will subscribe to every word. Neither subtract nor add!
        2. major147
          major147 17 February 2021 23: 00
          +1
          Quote: OrangeBigg
          Old songs about the main thing from the time of Obama about how he immediately isolated Russia.

          There won't be enough insulators! Such "isolators" came, where they are now. And then new ones grew up.
      4. Pravodel
        Pravodel 16 February 2021 09: 58
        +11
        Tsiner lives in a country that has not fought with anyone for two centuries

        Add to this that it was growing fat all the time, on the storage of gold plundered by various Anglo-Saxons and Germans from the peoples. She did not disdain gold crowns taken from prisoners of Nazi concentration camps, burned with gold in the furnaces of Buchenwald, Majdanek, Auschwitz, etc. prisoners.
      5. Avior
        Avior 16 February 2021 10: 08
        +2
        Believe it or not, Switzerland is one of the most militarized countries in the world. Everyone has a service weapon under the bed all the time. Only recently have they stopped storing ammunition. Universal conscription in the country, and a rather large army
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 16 February 2021 11: 05
          +1
          Quote: Avior
          Universal conscription in the country, and a rather large army

          Let the army be rather big, but the country with a bull's navel. One rocket spit (in the case of zealous rabies and rampant Russophobia) can be introduced into universal and eternal neutrality ... yes
      6. Roman070280
        Roman070280 16 February 2021 12: 24
        +3
        This Tsiner lives in a country that has not been at war with anyone for two centuries and for the same amount of time is neutral and is used to living without external threats and territorial disputes with neighbors.

        So you need to learn from people how to live normally ..
        And then they are used to comparing themselves either with Ukraine or with the Republic of Belarus ..

        It is easy for him to be clever, to Cinera.

        It's easy for him ... but it's hard for us ... because no one bothers him, and everyone wants to attack us ...
        It is our pensioners, not Swiss ones, who for some reason dream of robbing the West ..
        Hospadi .. that people have a head ..))
      7. Aerodrome
        Aerodrome 16 February 2021 13: 37
        -5
        Quote: Destiny
        This Tsiner lives in a country that has not been at war with anyone for two centuries and for the same amount of time is neutral and is used to living without external threats and territorial disputes with neighbors.

        it's a "bank" for everyone ... for the "left, for the right" ... for the fascists, for the liberals for all that the voice from under the "shkonka" began to give!
      8. nonsense
        nonsense 17 February 2021 12: 19
        0
        :) Switzerland has not been at war with anyone for these centuries because it has adapted to lick the ass of a potential conqueror. (Starting with Napoleon through Hitler and now the USA) All who do not live like this for this hang "live in international isolation" ...
      9. zenion
        zenion 17 February 2021 18: 38
        0
        Destiny. She was not very neutral. The Germans cherished and preserves gold, starting with Hitler and continuing ...
    2. Thrall
      Thrall 16 February 2021 09: 44
      +5
      This opinion was expressed by Markus Ciner in his article

      Oh, so this is the same correspondent who interviewed Bat'ka back in 1995 for the German edition of Handelsblatt, in which Alexander Grigorievich allegedly praised Hitler for what he did for Germany. This Tsiner hypanul then not weak.
      1. lucul
        lucul 16 February 2021 10: 07
        +4
        Oh, so this is the same correspondent who interviewed Bat'ka back in 1995 for the German edition of Handelsblatt, in which Alexander Grigorievich allegedly praised Hitler for what he did for Germany.

        As far as I remember, Luke then said that Hitler has a lot to learn, in the sense of how he rallied the nation and how the country developed.
    3. vkl.47
      vkl.47 16 February 2021 10: 14
      +3
      So they are constantly trumpeting about Russian aggression.
    4. Clear
      Clear 16 February 2021 10: 36
      +4
      Illusions drive Russia into international isolation

      Ciner, you are a joker, my friend. Do you have enough duct tape? winked
    5. Civil
      Civil 16 February 2021 10: 57
      -8
      And the Kremlin should not feed the illusion in the Russians that they are surrounded by enemies on all sides, since they are driving Russia into international isolation.

      You're lying:
      1. White Finns want to take away Karelia to take away!
      2. German fascists again threaten to attack Belarus.
      3. Japanese militarists are about to attack Manchuria.
      4. They began to frighten enemies with a ring even under Alexander 2.
      5. Basmachi are advancing in Turkestan!

      Everyone wants to burn out in a nuclear war for the resources of Siberia.
    6. Finches
      Finches 16 February 2021 10: 59
      +6
      Funny guys - we are surrounded by NATO bases on all sides, but it turns out that we are living in a world of illusions ... "We will drop a nuclear bomb on you, for your own good! You just don't understand and live in a world of illusions! " laughing
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 16 February 2021 12: 12
        -7
        we are surrounded by NATO bases on all sides

        And they do the right thing, because they can afford it. If Russia were a rich and powerful country, it would also have bases around the world. And we are beggars and all we can do is cry that we are being hurt. It is high time for us to change our policy, both external and internal, but what is happening now is decay.
        1. Finches
          Finches 16 February 2021 12: 20
          +2
          I'm not crying! And Russia is not a beggar! The foreign policy is completely different since 2007 than it was under Yeltsin, internal separatism has been suppressed, the economy, under conditions of total sanctions, does not fail ... So, please, do not spread Sorov propaganda here! Expansion by military bases is a historically established colonial policy of the Anglo-Saxons, alien to our Russian mentality. If our troops are present abroad, then it is as help, not enslavement - it was and will be so!
          1. No name B
            No name B 17 February 2021 00: 33
            -1
            If our troops are present abroad, then it is as help, not enslavement - it was and will be so!
            Well, I think the Americans also believe that their bases abroad as help and protection from the Russian bear ...
    7. Roman070280
      Roman070280 16 February 2021 12: 20
      +2
      A number of sanctions imposed from 14 against Russia

      And what exactly was there "against Russia" ??
      Maybe it was Ciner who crushed the products with a bulldozer ??
      Or, sanctions against some official are against Russia ??
      Stop believing the slop from the TV .. the uncle said everything to the point ..
  2. cniza
    cniza 16 February 2021 09: 32
    +9
    Russia lives primarily at the expense of false stories.


    Funny ones, look at yourself in the mirror, at all your sanctions and reasons for them ...
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 16 February 2021 09: 46
      +5
      Quote: cniza
      Funny, look at yourself in the mirror, at all your sanctions and reasons for them

      They are not funny ... they are frightened ... They seem to have done everything so that Russia does not rise again ... and she again ... Well, what else can you do with it?
      1. cniza
        cniza 16 February 2021 09: 49
        +4
        History had to be taught and not to dance on a rake ... yes
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 16 February 2021 09: 58
          +3
          Quote: cniza
          History had to be taught and not to dance on a rake ... yes

          Than to learn, there brains and memory, covered with rainbow / green mold ...
          1. cniza
            cniza 16 February 2021 10: 29
            +5
            This is certainly their problem, let them clean the mold themselves ...
        2. Clear
          Clear 16 February 2021 10: 42
          +7
          Quote: cniza
          History had to be taught and not to dance on a rake ... yes

          And, with them, whoever crows more menacingly about Russia is a fine fellow. No consequences. Everything is in trend. They applaud their own, Russian libert parties pick up, "echoes with rains" ... they cut them out of their pants, the grandees do it ... beauty, not life.
          1. cniza
            cniza 16 February 2021 10: 45
            +3
            What can you say? Let them "heal" themselves ...
            1. Clear
              Clear 16 February 2021 11: 22
              +3
              Quote: cniza
              What can you say? Let them "heal" themselves ...

              And here is what they are treating themselves with for 2021.
              More than $ 1,1 billion will be allocated by the State Department to finance the section
              "Countering Russian Malicious Influence".

              Of these, more than 600 million are directly aimed at "fighting Russian influence around the world."

              There is no decoding of the structures to which the funding will be directed.
              1. Clear
                Clear 16 February 2021 11: 25
                +2
                The same for 2021.
                And another 500 million - "to help Europe, Eurasia and Central Asia to" strengthen common security; protecting the territorial integrity of US allies; supporting the efforts of partner countries to move away from Russian weapons; responding to weaknesses in the macroeconomic environment that the Russian authorities seek to exploit, in particular dependence in the field of energy and trade. "
                1. Clear
                  Clear 16 February 2021 11: 26
                  +2
                  Apart from that
                  ... in turn, the American Embassy in Russia is allocating over a million dollars "for the training in Russia of specialists in the popularization of American politics and culture, as well as events with artists from the United States."
                  1. cniza
                    cniza 16 February 2021 11: 49
                    +2
                    Well, they have a lot of money, but we must resist them with our traditional values ​​and truth ...
      2. Alexander 3
        Alexander 3 16 February 2021 09: 52
        +2
        The pug also wanted to isolate and severely punish the elephant.
        1. Mountain shooter
          Mountain shooter 16 February 2021 10: 00
          +4
          Quote: Alexander 3
          The pug also wanted to isolate the elephant and severely punish

          Not. Pug wanted only PR ... preferably safe for her.
          "... after all, I can, without a fight, now get into any bully ...
          Let the dogs speak ...
          Ay Pug, to know she is strong
          Kohl barks at the ELEPHANT! "
          I remember something like that, from school ...
  3. Svarog
    Svarog 16 February 2021 09: 33
    -2
    He believes that the Russian leadership is imposing a "myth" on the population about the Western threat to make it easier to manage. The author called it a "political lie" that helps the current president of the Russian Federation to stay in power for so long.

    The threat is certainly not a myth .. as history shows .. But as usual, the truth is somewhere in the middle, we have inflated this threat to incredible proportions.
    1. Altona
      Altona 16 February 2021 09: 44
      +2
      Quote: Svarog
      as history shows ..

      -------------------------
      History shows, Volodya, that any war is dragged by an ordinary man aged 40+, and not by the vaunted fostered armies with aiguillettes.
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 16 February 2021 12: 17
        -5
        A man is a man, but we have few such men. And the war will be different, we will simply be shot from afar with rockets and drones, even the Azerbaijanis have shown this recently.
    2. Pereira
      Pereira 16 February 2021 09: 45
      +4
      The external threat must be so great as to completely overshadow the internal one.
      So that the tossing caps can always goggle and ask in a menacing voice: How can you criticize the authorities when the enemy is on the doorstep? Are you a traitor (Bandera, navalnysh, liberal, Jew, Wahhabite, pensioner, teenager, living with your parents, disguised woman)?

      Shl. I was called at various times by each of the above words.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 16 February 2021 10: 06
        -1
        - We will not give Russia to those who are going to plunder and humiliate it; we will not give it to those who want to deceive people by giving out empty and unrealizable promises! We, patriots of Russia, will do all this ourselves! (C) wink

        PS But in general - "Liberal Jew-Wahhabite" is a strong statement! what Congratulations! wink
    3. sniperino
      sniperino 16 February 2021 10: 46
      +1
      Quote: Svarog
      as history shows ..
      On what channel does history show you?
      Quote: Svarog
      as usual, the truth is somewhere in the middle
      Where are such strange customs? To your "truth-seeking method". That is, if you consider yourself normal, and someone considers you, forgive me, a fool, then usually you admit that you are a half-fool? Half-truth is worse than a lie, understand. And simplicity is worse than theft (this is about the "method").
      1. Fan-fan
        Fan-fan 16 February 2021 12: 23
        -3
        The proverb “Simplicity is worse than theft” means that excessive gullibility is not just a flaw, but almost a sin. After all, the consequences of simplicity can be no less harmful than the consequences of deliberate evil. But stealing is no less dangerous, therefore simplicity and theft are equally bad.
        1. sniperino
          sniperino 16 February 2021 12: 34
          +1
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          “Simplicity is worse than theft” means that excessive gullibility is not just a disadvantage, but almost a sin
          Theft is already a sin. And "simplicity worse theft "- but not a bit short of sin?
          Quote: Fan-Fan
          simplicity and theft are equally bad
          Like aligned? With such a conceptual mix they struggle with power.
  4. Asad
    Asad 16 February 2021 09: 37
    +3
    There is no trust in the “partners” after Ukraine at all, as they have been enemies for hundreds of years and have remained.
  5. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 16 February 2021 09: 38
    +1
    Yes, send these politicians away. Talk directly to business and that's all. Let them bark during the day for their electorate, and at night, quietly, they will calculate taxes from the contracts of their businessmen with Russia. And this is how everything is done now.
    1. three
      three 16 February 2021 11: 02
      0
      So we send them, but they stick to us like flies on electrical tape .... Without Russia (even if it is "wrong") Europe is nothing, at least for the Americans. The turnover with China came out on top, they are very afraid of this, because. "values" under the attack of undemocratic authoritarianism.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 16 February 2021 09: 39
    +5
    Well, of course, Switzerland did not have time to spit in the direction of Russia, so you need to hurry. Tsiner cynically calls the thesis about the Western threat "a myth and a lie", which in reality is no longer just shouting from behind a hillock, but is already knocking loudly on Russian doors. But what about the West's paranoid illusions about the Russian threat from every subject and calls to contain Russia by any means, including the military? Or is it different?
  7. carstorm 11
    carstorm 11 16 February 2021 09: 40
    +1
    Go to the forest. So many times these champions of democracy came that there are hundreds of thousands of graves. Hare. I will believe anyone, but not any European mongrel
  8. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 16 February 2021 09: 40
    +7
    Moreover, Mr. Tsiner does not recall the behavior of Western countries towards the late USSR, when they patted Gorbachev on the shoulder with one hand, and supported separatist sentiments in the republics with the other.

    I wonder when Europe was not an enemy for Russia ???
    She was and will be the enemy. One can only live peacefully with enemies, but always keep the gunpowder dry.
    1. rocket757
      rocket757 16 February 2021 09: 57
      +2
      Quote: tihonmarine
      I wonder when Europe was not an enemy for Russia ???

      Interesno, and when RUSSIA did not give that geyrope in the teeth / ears / horns, so they flew from here faster than their own screeching!
      Need to repeat?
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 16 February 2021 10: 53
        +1
        Quote: rocket757
        Need to repeat?

        It looks like they want repetition.
        1. rocket757
          rocket757 16 February 2021 11: 09
          0
          Repetition is the mother of learning ... only some of the learning does not go for the future.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 16 February 2021 11: 53
            +1
            Quote: rocket757
            Repetition is the mother of learning ... only some of the learning does not go for the future.

            It was not for nothing that V.I. Lenin said "Study, study, and study again."
    2. Clear
      Clear 16 February 2021 11: 13
      +3
      Quote: tihonmarine
      Moreover, Mr. Tsiner does not recall the behavior of Western countries towards the late USSR, when they patted Gorbachev on the shoulder with one hand, and supported separatist sentiments in the republics with the other.

      I wonder when Europe was not an enemy for Russia ???
      She was and will be the enemy. One can only live peacefully with enemies, but always keep the gunpowder dry.

      It just so happened, with their own "help", that our upholding of our statehood, TRUTH, became a mortal threat for the Anglo-Saxons ...
      1. sniperino
        sniperino 16 February 2021 13: 25
        +2
        Quote: Clear
        It just so happened, with their "help", that our defense of our statehood, TRUTH - became a mortal threat for the Anglo-Saxons
        If you are already brought into historiosophy, then the idea of ​​the Russian state from the time of its foundation has been built on law, right itself - on truth, and truth - on grace. But this is only an idea, but in reality anything can happen. The Anglo-Saxons are driven by the establishment of their own laws that provide them with power and wealth. Their law is called their law. So we are in conflict))
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 16 February 2021 21: 42
          +2
          Quote: sniperino
          If you are already brought into historiosophy

          Clearly, with you, it will not bring it there yet wink
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 16 February 2021 23: 13
            +1
            Quote: Terenin
            Clearly, with you, it will not bring it there yet
            What's wrong? Their rights (rights) are not directly connected with the state or with the truth in the language, but they relate to people, rather, as spaces of correct social activity protected by law. Their law, as needed, expands these spaces for the activity of some (perverts minorities), reducing them for others. In the Russian language, the ruler has the right, and the servant also has the right.
            1. Terenin
              Terenin 17 February 2021 14: 27
              +3
              Quote: sniperino
              What's wrong?

              It's okay, in general we are on the same wavelength yes Sometimes, on each other, friendly cartoons love

              Quote: sniperino
              In the Russian language, the ruler has the right, and the servant also has the right.

              Moreover, a sense of justice is so in our genes that in the 90s and 00s, even criminal structures for bloody showdowns brought documents confirming their right to this or that activity or property.
              1. sniperino
                sniperino 17 February 2021 16: 02
                +1
                Quote: Terenin
                a sense of justice is in our genes
                The chromosomes are in the genes, not the cultural sense of justice. The bandyuk culture carries its own idea of ​​justice.
                1. Terenin
                  Terenin 17 February 2021 18: 59
                  +4
                  Quote: sniperino
                  Chromosomes sit in genes, not a sense of justice

                  Meant in genetic memory.

                  Quote: sniperino
                  Bandyuk culture carries its own idea of ​​justice.

                  Clear.
  9. Dimy4
    Dimy4 16 February 2021 09: 40
    +3
    He believes that the Russian leadership is imposing a "myth" on the population about the Western threat ...

    Of course it does, because in fact they are so white and fluffy. And our whole history of relations with the West is continuous gatherings with tea and cakes.
  10. Ka-52
    Ka-52 16 February 2021 09: 41
    +3
    He believes that the Russian leadership is imposing a "myth" on the population about the Western threat to make it easier to manage.

    This ciner (with a small letter) should be poked into the words of Barack Obama, who voiced as an achievement "the Russian economy has been torn to shreds by us." This sounds not just like a threat, but as a result of real aggressive and purposeful actions. In the rhetoric of Western words about Russia, the verbs "punish" and "force" are often heard. In the alternate world of ciner, this is seen as an expression of extreme peacefulness and cooperation. laughing
    1. Clear
      Clear 16 February 2021 11: 15
      +2
      Quote: Ka-52
      He believes that the Russian leadership is imposing a "myth" on the population about the Western threat to make it easier to manage.

      This ciner (with a small letter) should be poked into the words of Barack Obama, who voiced as an achievement "the Russian economy has been torn to shreds by us." This sounds not just like a threat, but as a result of real aggressive and purposeful actions. In the rhetoric of Western words about Russia, the verbs "punish" and "force" are often heard. In the alternate world of ciner, this is seen as an expression of extreme peacefulness and cooperation. laughing

      Surely. yes They should stop. Estimate "who is who". But natural greed, as well as the still prevailing sense of impunity with the hope of restoring the collapsed hegemony, pushes them further into all seriousness in order to fragment Russia and establish their protectorate over it.
  11. Cowbra
    Cowbra 16 February 2021 09: 41
    +1
    A common article for Europa as a whole. When they are hit hard, they begin to tell them that they are actually winning. Well, remember, they presented the Dynamo operation as the greatest triumph of the British spirit, they say, the whole nation rallied and did the impossible! And in fact - the Germans whipped them with a belt over their plump bottom and, sobbing, they scampered on leaky barrels, leaving their allies to be devoured.
    So here too - Lavrov rubbed the EU into dust in the face of their Gauleiter and poked them with his face in Minsk for Nebenz's snack. As puppies poked their noses into a puddle - so they howl about peremogs.
    And about isolation. Which one needs more - German cars, or freezing Germany - Russian gas?
    1. Clear
      Clear 16 February 2021 11: 10
      +2
      Quote: Cowbra
      So here too - Lavrov rubbed the EU into dust in the face of their Gauleiter and poked them with his face in Minsk for Nebenz's snack. As puppies poked their noses into a puddle - so they howl about peremogs.

      Of course, the collective West cannot accept that Russia specifically puts a spoke in the wheels of the world's gendarme machine.
  12. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 16 February 2021 09: 41
    +1
    And the deployment of more and more military units and military equipment closer to our border, and the aggressive supply of weapons by the United States to Ukraine (more and more often there are opinions in the United States that it is necessary to supply heavy weapons), and the incitement to the Donbas and the involvement of the Russian Federation in the discussion of the Minsk agreement? And more and more bases in the north of Syria? And what about the quiet silence with the participation of the NATO country - Turkey in the Karabakh conflict? And what about strategic bombers in Norway? And Japan's indulgence in the Northern Territories? And what about provocations and violation of the Montreux doctrine in the Black Sea? And ... much more ... And this is not a threat?
    1. stalki
      stalki 16 February 2021 10: 01
      -1
      And the deployment of more and more military units and military equipment closer to our border, and the aggressive supply of weapons by the United States to Ukraine (more and more often there are opinions in the United States that it is necessary to supply heavy weapons), and the incitement to Donbas and the involvement of the Russian Federation in the discussion of the Minsk agreement? And more and more new bases in northern Syria? And what about the quiet silence with the participation of the NATO country - Turkey in the Karabakh conflict? And what about strategic bombers in Norway? And Japan's indulgence in the Northern Territories? And what about provocations and violation of the Montreux doctrine in the Black Sea? And ... much more ... And this is not a threat
      The fifth column was not mentioned, this is a special fad. Now the main emphasis is on Judas, because by force and sanctions, the effectiveness is zero. The West is trying to use its favorite means of "parasite brood" to break the national unity and faith in Russia.
      1. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 16 February 2021 10: 10
        0
        Yes. I forgot. Everything is the same as the Poles and Livonians used to send False Dmitrys to us - destroying the country, like any agents of influence on the empresses in the form of doctors Listok and Bironov, as strangling the traitors of Pevla 1 with a scarf, as for the sake of pro-German views, General Ranenkampf did not want to talk to the gene. Samsonov advancing in East Prussia in 1914, which destroyed the entire strategic operation of Russia and the prospects for the defeat of Germany, like Lenin in a sealed carriage with Kaiser's money and so on ... And Navalny is the same Lenin, the same money, from the descendants of the same lenders .. And the goals are the same: to destroy Russia at all costs in order to profit from its wealth and extend its predatory democracy for another 10 years ...
        1. stalki
          stalki 16 February 2021 10: 18
          -1
          Yes. I forgot. Everything is the same as the Poles and Livonians used to send False Dmitrys to us - destroying the country, like any agents of influence on the empresses in the form of doctors Listok and Bironov, as strangling the traitors of Pevla 1 with a scarf, as for the sake of pro-German views, General Ranenkampf did not want to talk to the gene. Samsonov advancing in East Prussia in 1914, which destroyed the entire strategic operation of Russia and the prospects for the defeat of Germany, like Lenin in a sealed carriage with the Kaiser's money and so on ... And Navalny is the same Lenin, the same money, from the descendants of the same lenders .. And the goals are the same: to destroy Russia at all costs in order to profit from its wealth and extend its predatory democracy for another 10 years
          Well, Lenin's talent is oval as far as China. And, to your regret, I sympathize with the Soviet system. I will immediately outline my preferences. But on the whole I agree with your conclusions. hi
      2. Antonio_Mariarti
        Antonio_Mariarti 16 February 2021 11: 04
        -7
        Quote: stalki
        And the deployment of more and more military units and military equipment closer to our border, and the aggressive supply of weapons by the United States to Ukraine (more and more often there are opinions in the United States that it is necessary to supply heavy weapons), and the incitement to Donbas and the involvement of the Russian Federation in the discussion of the Minsk agreement? And more and more new bases in northern Syria? And what about the quiet silence with the participation of the NATO country - Turkey in the Karabakh conflict? And what about strategic bombers in Norway? And Japan's indulgence in the Northern Territories? And what about provocations and violation of the Montreux doctrine in the Black Sea? And ... much more ... And this is not a threat
        The fifth column was not mentioned, this is a special fad. Now the main emphasis is on Judas, because by force and sanctions, the effectiveness is zero. The West is trying to use its favorite means of "parasite brood" to break the national unity and faith in Russia.

        As if the sanctions work, the ruble has fallen by 2 times, which means that goods from abroad have risen in price, and almost all household goods are imported. If you look at the dynamics of price growth from 2013 to 2020, then it increased by 2-3 times, while the real incomes of Russians from 2014 to 2020 grew by only 1 percent, and this is very strained. Those who go out = because of stagnation, the decline in living standards. The West has figured it all out, he is working in debt, as with the USSR.
        1. stalki
          stalki 16 February 2021 12: 29
          +1
          As if the sanctions work, the ruble has fallen by 2 times, which means that goods from abroad have risen in price, and almost all household goods are imported. If you look at the dynamics of price growth from 2013 to 2020, then it increased by 2-3 times, while the real incomes of Russians from 2014 to 2020 grew by only 1 percent, and this is very strained. Those who go out = because of stagnation, the decline in living standards. The West has figured it all out, he is working in debt, as with the USSR.
          "Yes, uh huh." In fact, the crisis. And mostly due to the fault of the same West. And they only know how to count money. laughing
          Ps and the ruble fell, because it was dropped deliberately, and not west.
          1. Antonio_Mariarti
            Antonio_Mariarti 16 February 2021 12: 42
            -3
            Quote: stalki
            As if the sanctions work, the ruble has fallen by 2 times, which means that goods from abroad have risen in price, and almost all household goods are imported. If you look at the dynamics of price growth from 2013 to 2020, then it increased by 2-3 times, while the real incomes of Russians from 2014 to 2020 grew by only 1 percent, and this is very strained. Those who go out = because of stagnation, the decline in living standards. The West has figured it all out, he is working in debt, as with the USSR.
            "Yes, uh huh." In fact, the crisis. And mostly due to the fault of the same West. And they only know how to count money. laughing
            Ps and the ruble fell, because it was dropped deliberately, and not west.

            Yeah, and Russia did not provoke the West in any way? Oh well. Artificially dropped? Hahahha. Yeah, tell me more, the capital outflow from the Russian Federation was also artificially made by the Central Bank. Can you tell me how it was artificially dropped?
            1. stalki
              stalki 16 February 2021 13: 37
              0
              Yeah, and Russia did not provoke the West in any way? Oh well. Artificially dropped? Hahahha. Yeah, tell me more, the capital outflow from the Russian Federation was also artificially made by the Central Bank. Can you tell me how it was artificially dropped?
              You will poke your children, if any. And I have no desire to chew you the basics of econimic science, take the Talmuts and study how and why the factors of the exchange rate of monetary units change. Everyone knows perfectly well why and how the central bank keeps the ruble at this rate.
              1. Antonio_Mariarti
                Antonio_Mariarti 16 February 2021 15: 22
                -1
                Quote: stalki
                Yeah, and Russia did not provoke the West in any way? Oh well. Artificially dropped? Hahahha. Yeah, tell me more, the capital outflow from the Russian Federation was also artificially made by the Central Bank. Can you tell me how it was artificially dropped?
                You will poke your children, if any. And I have no desire to chew you the basics of econimic science, take the Talmuts and study how and why the factors of the exchange rate of monetary units change. Everyone knows perfectly well why and how the central bank keeps the ruble at this rate.

                hahaha ok boomer.
      3. sniperino
        sniperino 16 February 2021 12: 01
        0
        Quote: stalki
        The West is trying to use its favorite means of "parasite brood" to break the national unity and faith in Russia.
        The roots of understanding the phenomenon of "brood of parasites" go back to the ornate East
        Every kingdom divided in itself will be empty; and any city or house divided within itself will not stand
        This is a contemplative option. And business Romans laconically and directly formulated this as a maxim of power
        Divide and rule.
        In the same way, the Western Christian branch (Catholicism and Protestantism) differs from Eastern Orthodoxy. The Pope began to lay claim to power within the church, causing the first split of Christianity, then secular, which led to the next split of the Western branch. Protestantism has already "not resisted" at all and has crumbled into many sects, which are united by the understanding of power and wealth as an indicator of holiness, God's chosenness. So they are striving with all their might to power and wealth. And they do it from time to time.
    2. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2021 10: 17
      .
      Quote: mojohed2012
      And the deployment of more and more military units and military equipment closer to our border

      Are you talking about the Baltics? So we also moved in their direction, in Crimea in 2014.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 16 February 2021 12: 38
        0
        Quote: RUSS
        That's how we also moved in their direction, in Crimea in 2014.

        what are you, Russia in Crimea with 1783 years
  13. Altona
    Altona 16 February 2021 09: 42
    +4
    Europe is now experiencing an extremely cold winter. The windmills are working in self-heating mode, the solar panels are iced up. Thermal power plants are urgently revived, which Germany threatened to withdraw from circulation. In general, Europe, too, does not need to swagger now. Therefore, hydrocarbon dances were abruptly blown away. Japan, also suffering from cold weather, by the way bought up all the LNG, sales of coal, ancient as a mammoth, increased 40 times. Why am I? Besides, the rhetoric softens due to economic circumstances, again business and nothing personal.
  14. paul3390
    paul3390 16 February 2021 09: 45
    0
    Is the West the whole outside world ?? IMHO - they live with the illusions of the past, when the West was the planetary financial, industrial and political center of the planet. Only a socialist bloc led by the mighty Soviet Union could oppose it ..

    But the workshop of the planet has been in Asia for a long time, and finances are also slowly and surely shifting there .. And politics, which is not backed by real economic power, costs little .. Which, alas, is what we observe in the example of the current Russian Federation.

    So - if it makes sense to be friends with anyone - it's China. With whom we do not seem to have a bad relationship. And Europa - let him continue to puff up, nostalgic for its former greatness. Her time has passed. And the massive importation of the Papuans and the pedaling of all sorts of sexual and religious still minorities - only accelerates the final collapse ..

    It was 50 years ago that the West could cut off access to technologies and high-tech goods in one move, but now it cannot do this in principle. Because China - openly puts a bolt on all their sanctions, and without this - the Western bourgeoisie will only lose their profit without any political sense ..
    1. Altona
      Altona 16 February 2021 09: 53
      +9
      Quote: paul3390
      So - if it makes sense to be friends with anyone - it's China. With whom we do not seem to have a bad relationship.

      --------------------------
      China is still a friend. He will be friends with you just as you are friends with a cutlet.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 16 February 2021 10: 02
        -3
        And no one says that the Chinese are our sidekicks .. Moreover, after the restoration of capitalism in our country, we are also ideological enemies. However, we are the same in relation to our population ..

        But the Russian Federation is actually the only source of more or less modern military technologies available to the PRC. Despite their rapid progress, the legacy of the perished USSR still gives us a solid head start. In addition, we are an obvious alternative source of oil and gas, as well as a transit route, which the West is unable to block in principle.

        Like conquering us is the point? Well, firstly, to rock the boat on a nuclear power is generally a strange occupation, and secondly - in the Far East, in general, there is nothing the Chinese need. Well, they will take it away from us - and what? What will they get from this? Of course, there is something in Yakutia - but even the Soviet Union at the peak of its power could not get fossils from there. Ooooooo expensive ..

        So - I personally do not share the concerns about China. Of course, they will milk us in all ways, but they will do nasty things - they will hardly become much ..
    2. Sly
      Sly 16 February 2021 10: 28
      -1
      Quote: paul3390
      ... and pedaling all sorts of sexual and religious still minorities ...

      Well said ))) hi
  15. askort154
    askort154 16 February 2021 09: 45
    +2
    Swiss press: Illusions drive Russia into international isolation

    In the Western media, everything is on schedule. Now the turn has come to Switzerland - to bark at Russia.
  16. evgen1221
    evgen1221 16 February 2021 09: 45
    +1
    We have that articles from VO have become obligatory to be taught in school and kindergarten? Why so much pathos in editorial generalizations of sources and only one direction (everything around kyu). Well, since the staff propagandists and the state order believe that everyone around us is interfering with us, and kyu-well, close the country then why pour one thing into your ears and in fact do another in politics. And where is the Swiss wrong that too much we have a stick in this direction, bending cursing the West in their troubles? The West orders chtoli to have prices inside as in Europe and as in limpopo? No, quite homegrown mothers' businessmen and the same corrupt politicians.
    1. sniperino
      sniperino 16 February 2021 12: 22
      +2
      Quote: evgen1221
      and only one direction (all around kyu)
      This is a clear lie. "All around fu" focusing on VO will be more. More such crap about the Russian Federation is only poured into ukrosmi.
  17. Stalnov I.P.
    Stalnov I.P. 16 February 2021 09: 52
    0
    Who would say, just not this Swiss chipmunk. Your disgusting European mug is not worthy of talking about RUSSIA. We'll have to go to Bern, Zurich, and we'll come to Geneva. Forgot how many times OUR ANCESTORS, HONOR AND PRAISE, plowed your European "black earth". Remember our PLOW is sharp and heavy.
  18. honda
    honda 16 February 2021 09: 54
    +3
    What's this? Shed a tear about the times of Gorbachev and Yeltsin? You won't wait! Russia has only two friends (allies)
    1. RUSS
      RUSS 16 February 2021 10: 13
      .
      Quote: Honda
      What's this? Shed a tear about the times of Gorbachev and Yeltsin? You won't wait! Russia has only two friends (allies)

      Iskanders will soon cry from sanctions
    2. Pilot
      Pilot 16 February 2021 10: 19
      .
      Yes, and friends-allies are no longer the same, rotten human material for 30 years of consumer society and liberalism. God forbid another large-scale invasion of the country and that's it, we will sail with such soldiers .. And who is to blame, who supported such a course by filling their pockets and dreaming of getting into the world bourgeois club ???
    3. evgen1221
      evgen1221 16 February 2021 14: 15
      -2
      Moreover, according to the author of the classical definition, his people are not included in the list.
  19. Keeper
    Keeper 16 February 2021 09: 55
    -1
    Nobody stopped the information war. Brainwashed by both their side and ours. May God give us rationality to understand what is really happening.
  20. rocket757
    rocket757 16 February 2021 09: 56
    +2
    Swiss press: Illusions drive Russia into international isolation

    Who was dreaming there ???
    Are they who consider the seed to be something important, international?
    Used to remember their history, and other different ones, who wanted something there and ran into the "Eastern barbarians" ... HA, HA, HA! What remained of them after that, except for the graves, scattered across our expanses ...
    Here is the same sjavki are breach, with a broken memory fool
    1. Clear
      Clear 16 February 2021 11: 02
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      Who was dreaming there ???
      Those who are haunted by the huge natural resources of our country.
      For a long time and everyone knows the facts of the centuries-old, since the time of Ivan the Terrible, "mouth opening" by the Anglo-Saxons on the natural resources of Russia.

      Quote: rocket757
      Are they who consider the seed to be something important, international?
      And absolutely the icing on the cake is the finally faded military superiority.

      Quote: rocket757
      What remained of them after that is, except for the graves, scattered across our expanses ...
      Ah, their graves are inevitable. If earlier the purpose of swoops was the mastery of our resources, nowadays they are faced with the task of elementary survival. And, with very arrogant behavior - even purely physical survival.

      Quote: rocket757
      Here is the same sjavki are breach, with a broken memory
      This is what the pro-Western and Western media always do - it seems like Russia is advancing, and they, white and fluffy, only have time here and there to take retaliatory measures to contain the “Russian threat”.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 16 February 2021 11: 16
        +1
        Quote: Clear
        at present, they face the task of elementary survival at their full height

        If you look closely, think, remember, then in friendship / cooperation with Russia they have a lot more chances to SURVIVE!
        But their brains are so sharpened that they cannot understand this, they do not want to!
        We have to explain to them, remind them over and over again, BUT, our admonitions are not for the future! Only to drive them into .... somewhere, it happens again and again.
        Gayropeyskie blockheads and others.
        1. Clear
          Clear 16 February 2021 11: 34
          +3
          Quote: rocket757
          But their brains are so sharpened that they cannot understand this, they do not want to!

          Nooo No. They have already "bit the bit".
          In addition to the national cyber strategy of the United States, there is also the cyber strategy of the Pentagon, which has already formed 133 cyber units of more than 6 thousand people. And the guys don't sleep.
          The main opponents in cyberspace are Russia, China, South Korea, Iran.

          Now manufacturers of Russophobia are moving to a new level of mass propaganda - computer games. The theme is the same. The media is modern. The customer is the US government. The ears (in the sense of "sticking out") are British.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 16 February 2021 11: 41
            0
            In general, nothing, especially, new ... just want to increase the intensity of the impact.
            You can't call it safe, but it's too late to get scared! It is necessary to send a specific answer.
        2. evgen1221
          evgen1221 16 February 2021 14: 22
          -1
          And if you take a closer look, you will notice that the West benefits from Russia in 90% of cases, taking advantage of the mistakes and foolishness of our rulers. So who does the most harm? We are letting our feet wipe our feet and conducting xs of any mind or the West using it.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 16 February 2021 14: 33
            +1
            better tit in hand than ... "poplar" above and on the head.
  21. KCA
    KCA 16 February 2021 09: 59
    0
    Apart from the opinion of a Swiss newspaper, I would like to know what they think about the isolation of Russia in Zimbabwe, I understand that they are not doing very well, but at least one newspaper should be, at least 50 copies
    1. Avior
      Avior 16 February 2021 10: 24
      -4
      One must be careful with such analogies.
      Yes, things are not very good.
      They write that the salary of low-paid personnel in Zimbabwe fell to $ 231. As in Ukraine, approximately.
      https://take-profit.org/statistics/wages-low-skilled/zimbabwe/
      In the region of $ 170-180, the minimum wage for low-skilled personnel is in Kenya or Uganda.
      1. WIKI
        WIKI 16 February 2021 10: 50
        -4
        Quote: Avior
        They write that the salary of low-paid personnel in Zimbabwe fell to $ 231. As in Ukraine, approximately.

        Again Ukraine. In our district sports center, the instructor's salary is equal to the minimum wage of 12 792 rubles. You want to cry, but you want to laugh. "The world leader in the growth of minimum wages in 2020 was Ukraine, where the indicator increased by 27 percent. In terms of US dollars, it reached 171 dollars a month , "compared to our $ 146.
        1. Avior
          Avior 16 February 2021 13: 01
          +2
          Not so.
          In general, the imaginary salary in Ukraine is UAH 6000.
          https://index.minfin.com.ua/labour/salary/min/
          The hryvnia exchange rate is 28. That is, the minimum wage is $ 215.
          12800 rubles minimum wage in Russia at a rate of 73 rubles per dollar is 175 dollars.
          But actually I wrote about African salaries. Everyone is so used to comparing with Africa, but in numbers the comparison is not so straightforward.
          There, at the link above, there is a plate for different countries. Makes me think.:(((
          1. WIKI
            WIKI 16 February 2021 13: 20
            -1
            Quote: Avior
            the imaginary salary in Ukraine is 6000 UAH.

            I wrote about 2020. The minimum wage was 4720 UAH.
          2. WIKI
            WIKI 16 February 2021 13: 33
            -1
            Quote: Avior
            Makes me think.

            The question arises, what makes them constantly increase the minimum wage. The economy is at the bottom. The probable reason is the ability of the population to influence state policy by their possible protest actions.
            1. Avior
              Avior 16 February 2021 14: 49
              +2
              The average is growing, and the same is very noticeable, not only the minimum wage
              In my opinion, salaries began to grow when people began to go abroad to work in large quantities. And the economy, it turns out not on such a day, otherwise the average would not grow. Less supply in the labor market means higher wages. No one will just lift
              From 01.12.2021, the minimum wage will rise again to 6500 hryvnia - $ 230.
              1. Brturin
                Brturin 16 February 2021 16: 55
                0
                Quote: Avior
                From 01.12.2021, the minimum wage rises again to 6500 hryvnia - 230 dollars

                There is also a downside to this increase. How do those who have their own business relate to this and the amount of ERUs (unified social contribution of ERUs) depends directly on the size of the minimum wage (they can go into the shadows or reduce employees) .. real estate tax, state duties and court fees depend on the minimum wage ...
                1. Avior
                  Avior 16 February 2021 19: 37
                  0
                  Uh-huh. Due to the fact that a person who has more than two real estate objects (if there is only an apartment and a house, then they are not taxed) will pay more tax, you need to make the minimum wage for millions of people less. They should get into the position of real estate owners and tighten their belts so as not to upset the rich ...
                  1. Brturin
                    Brturin 16 February 2021 20: 22
                    0
                    And besides real estate ... the fact that raising will help public sector employees, etc. this is undoubtedly a plus, the issue is specific - "According to Vovchenko, it is obvious that the authorities expect an increase in revenues from the unified social contribution and personal income tax from the increase in the minimum wage. But in a crisis, this could negatively affect small and medium in order to avoid additional financial burdens, they will transfer their employees to the shadows, or even reduce them altogether, and this, in turn, will become an additional burden on the budget in the form of unemployment benefits .. kp.ua
                    1. Avior
                      Avior 16 February 2021 21: 09
                      +1
                      The higher the level of income of the population, the more income to the budget and social funds, this is the usual universal rule.
                      Everything else in the quote is at the level of speculation ...
                    2. WIKI
                      WIKI 16 February 2021 22: 02
                      0
                      “In Germany, a minimum wage of 8.50 euros was introduced on January 1, 2015. The number of employees earning less than 8.50 euros was up to 17% of employees. Already in 2014, after the adoption of the law on minimum wages, companies began to reorganize to meet the requirements of the law. after the introduction of the minimum wage, economists in Germany generally concluded that “the predicted job disaster did not happen.” Conversely, at the end of 2015, Germany recorded the lowest unemployment rate since the early 90s. A study of the British market showed that prices are rising faster in sectors regulated by minimum wages than in other sectors. Also, research by the Low Pay Commission showed that instead of cutting jobs, employers chose to cut rates, working hours, increase prices and find opportunities to increase productivity. "
                      1. Brturin
                        Brturin 16 February 2021 22: 27
                        +1
                        Quote: WIKI
                        instead of cutting jobs, employers chose to cut

                        Germany, Great Britain, Russia, Ukraine ... etc. everywhere there is a specificity and how someone will behave in this case ... to raise the minimum wage (a good and necessary thing), but this is a budget expense, and the budget is replenished with taxes ... then it does not stand it leaves, optimizes, that is, the tax base is reduced (this is not a very good thing, if not harmful) ... from what to pay an increased minimum monthly salary ... and then a pandemic, a crisis, and so not simple conditions ...
              2. WIKI
                WIKI 16 February 2021 21: 52
                0
                Quote: Avior
                Less supply in the labor market means higher wages.

                But in my opinion, the matter is completely different. "The European Committee of Social Rights considers that the minimum wage ensuring a decent standard of living should be 60 percent or more of the average wage in the country. Earning less than 50% of the average wage is not considered decent at all. The European Social Charter provides for the right of workers to such remuneration that will provide them and their families with a decent standard of living (this provision has not been ratified by Russia).

                The RANEPA draws attention to the fact that a similar approach is enshrined in the International Labor Organization Convention on the Establishment of the Minimum Wage with a Special Consideration for Developing Countries (Russia has not ratified it either). "Ukraine adopted the Law" On Ratification of the International Labor Organization Convention No. 131 on the Establishment of the Minimum Wage Back in 2005, the Keitz Index (the percentage of the minimum wage from the average salary in the country), according to the recommendations of the International Labor Organization, should be 50%. The Keitz Index in Russia is one of the lowest in the world (as of May 2020 it is about 23,9%). due to the fact that in Russia the minimum wage is, according to the law, equated to the subsistence minimum, and not to a certain percentage of the average salary in the country, as in most countries of the world. We have our own way. The Keitz index in Ukraine will average 2021% in 48. I haven’t figured it out until the end, but in my opinion, Ukraine is calculating the minimum monthly volume according to the recommendations of the UN and Europe.
  22. Poetry
    Poetry 16 February 2021 10: 00
    +3
    Enemy armored vehicles on our borders are also an illusion ?! Are the daily reconnaissance flights along our borders also an illusion? Are statements from enemy generals about attacks on Crimea and Kaliningrad an illusion?

    Comrade Ziner with chicken brains,
    You go on ... in big steps.
  23. prior
    prior 16 February 2021 10: 01
    +2
    "Illusions drive Russia into international isolation"

    Sometimes isolation helps a lot.
    For example, from plague, from anthrax, from Ebola, from syphilis and other viruses.
    Western tollerastia and Ukrainian maidaunism are no less dangerous and infectious.
  24. Pavel73
    Pavel73 16 February 2021 10: 03
    0
    It is not interesting to listen to such things from the Swiss. These eternal neutrals have not fought for a long time, and seem to have forgotten what it is. It is much more interesting to hear something like that from the British, so that there was an opportunity to answer.
  25. Prisoner
    Prisoner 16 February 2021 10: 10
    0
    The West needs to clear their brains, or whatever they have, otherwise they will end up in a deep hole if Russia redirects all its kind attention to the East, and leaves them with what remains. These little weed lackeys are completely drowning in their illusions.
  26. V
    V 16 February 2021 10: 28
    +1
    Russia lives primarily at the expense of false stories.

    After the collapse of the USSR, at a press conference, British Prime Minister John Major: "We defeated Russia in the Cold War, the appointment of Russia to become a raw materials appendage of the West, but for this the population of Russia should not exceed 50 million people."
  27. Normal
    Normal 16 February 2021 10: 31
    +4
    There is no such thing in psychiatry as "paranoid"))) This is the writers invented for the beauty of the syllable). There are three stages of development: paranoid, paranoid and paraphrenic! From simpler to more complex.
    So the West, has long been in the stage of parfrenic syndrome, namely: delusions of grandeur, fantastic delusional ideas, affective outbursts.
    Such patients call themselves the rulers of the earth, and sometimes even the universe, the leaders of states, the commanders-in-chief of the armies, express the conviction that in their power the present and the future of the entire universe of the village, humanity. It is on their desires that the fate of the world, of all mankind, and eternal prosperity depend. When they talk about it, they use either figurative or grandiose comparisons. But what is especially characteristic of paraphrenia is that during the narration of the fantastic events taking place, not only outstanding representatives of our time, but also historical characters of the past are involved in the circle of action. This is how attempts are repeatedly made to "rewrite" history, to belittle the significance of the Soviet Union, in the victory over Nazi Germany, and so on.
    1. three
      three 16 February 2021 11: 08
      0
      Thanks for the diagnosis, doctor. Well, shall we try to treat or with such a diagnosis only to Shoigu?
      1. Normal
        Normal 16 February 2021 11: 40
        +1
        This can only be stopped and brought into remission)) In diplomatic language, I find it difficult to find an analogue)
    2. Oleg Guschin
      Oleg Guschin 16 February 2021 11: 13
      -3
      the term "paranoid" means a general deviation from the norm, without specifying the stage of the disease.
      1. Normal
        Normal 16 February 2021 11: 37
        +2
        There is no such term in science! It is invented in the process of using the others.
  28. T.A.V.
    T.A.V. 16 February 2021 10: 55
    +1
    It's in their blood to turn everything over.
    Democracy means only listen to me. That's their whole motto
  29. Tektor
    Tektor 16 February 2021 10: 55
    +3
    Ciner invented the myth himself, and got lost in it himself.
  30. cheburator
    cheburator 16 February 2021 11: 09
    +1
    V.V. Putin is our President - my pride!
    And let them scare their slaves from the Eastern Geyrop and Tse Khokhloins with isolation! They are led to this, because the owners are kept in a certain position.
    We are Russians! God with us!
  31. Oleg Guschin
    Oleg Guschin 16 February 2021 11: 11
    +1
    Article - an attempt to shift responsibility from a sore head to a healthy one
  32. Pavel Moroz
    Pavel Moroz 16 February 2021 11: 22
    +4
    Lord, how awful it is to be isolated from "a prosperous and civilized Europe"! We will not be dominated by migrants from Africa, we will not be able to enjoy the spectacle of gay pride parades on the streets of our cities, and much of what constitutes the basis of "universal human values." In short - complete decline and desolation.
  33. Roman070280
    Roman070280 16 February 2021 12: 18
    +3
    He believes that the Russian leadership is imposing a "myth" on the population about the Western threat to make it easier to manage.

    Russia lives primarily at the expense of false stories.


    I think that only the child does not understand this ..
  34. iouris
    iouris 16 February 2021 12: 31
    0
    Oh, you might think that the Swiss are not brainwashed. Washed, and how. All a priori treat Russians as beings of a lower order. Further depends on the Russian himself.
    In politics, the EU is trying to maintain the status of a superpower, but failed. And it will not work. The EU is living out.
    1. Kushka
      Kushka 16 February 2021 14: 13
      -1
      will not work. The EU is living out.

      Remember how it was called before the EU-
      Common Market. And before that - Steel
      Union (or Coal, I don't remember anymore)
      That is, this is the third form, a total of 100 years.
      There will be a fourth. Don't worry about them.
  35. teron
    teron 16 February 2021 12: 43
    +1
    The West does not want to humiliate Russia, but to destroy it. And do not say that it is not. In 1991, encouraging nationalism in the republics of Soviet Russia, they have already destroyed. Now they want to destroy the capitalist. By the end of the 90s, our country was already on the verge of collapse. Nothing new and impossible.
    The gentleman from Switzerland is either a brainwashed zombie or, more likely, an enemy.
  36. Kushka
    Kushka 16 February 2021 13: 59
    -2
    Europe reminds me of the woman who "I was chasing you 5 km to tell you how indifferent you are to me."
    [i] [/ i]
    A man walks along the sidewalk, a voice from above:
    - Man, I'm afraid of you!
    Raises her head - a woman on the balcony of the 9th floor.
    ?????? - I'm below, and you are above!
    -And I'll go down now!
  37. kit88
    kit88 16 February 2021 15: 08
    +8
    Russia needs to establish normal relations with the West, otherwise it will be isolated from the outside world.

    And what is his concern?
    Or were they afraid that the Russian Federation would actually break with the West and reorient itself to the East?
  38. SID
    SID 16 February 2021 15: 33
    +1
    He believes that the Russian leadership is imposing a "myth" on the population about the Western threat to make it easier to manage

    In his opinion, for many years the leadership of the Russian Federation has been actively taking advantage of the fact that repeatedly repeated lies "get stuck" in the minds of people and make them perceive it as truth.

    The Kremlin stubbornly promotes the idea that the West is showing disrespect to Russia, treating it with hostility, and trying to humiliate it whenever possible.


    And then it comes to mind:
    The thief himself shouts the loudest "stop the thief" ...
  39. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 16 February 2021 16: 03
    +1
    laughing We are already under sanctions since the time of Ivan the Fair. To create a loud PR of an irreconcilable struggle against the environment of close economic ties and get a zilch is an art, and politicians are paid for this.  laughing
  40. Gennady Fomkin
    Gennady Fomkin 16 February 2021 16: 16
    0
    I'm afraid soon Europe will buy grain from us laughing
  41. d1975
    d1975 16 February 2021 19: 39
    +1
    Yes, they only need one thing from us, money for their goods and that's it. All this investment is ripped off. And who is smarter not to believe every word from the Russian media. This is everyone's business. But it’s too hypocritical.
  42. wow
    wow 16 February 2021 23: 08
    0
    But this Ciner would not go swimming in Lake Geneva!
  43. bzbo
    bzbo 16 February 2021 23: 21
    0
    Ziener literal translation from Dutch "seer" from the word Zie - to see (see)

    Professor Dr. Markus Ziener has worked for many years as a correspondent in Warsaw, Moscow, the Middle East and Washington. He is currently professor of journalism at the Graduate School of Mass Media, Communication and Economics in Berlin.

    Well done))) I just looked at ...


    see (v.)
    Old English seon "to see, look, behold; observe, perceive, understand; experience, visit, inspect" (contracted class V strong verb; past tense seah, past participle sewen), from Proto-Germanic * sehwanan (source also of Old Saxon, Old High German sehan, Middle High German, German sehen, Old Frisian sia, Middle Dutch sien, Old Norse sja, Gothic saihwan), from PIE root * sekw- (2) "to see," which is probably identical with * sekw- (1) "to follow" (see sequel), a root which produced words for "say" in Greek and Latin, and also words for "follow" (such as Latin sequor), but "opinions differ in regard to the semantic starting-point and sequences "[Buck]. Thus see might originally mean "follow with the eyes."
  44. pexotinec
    pexotinec 17 February 2021 00: 15
    0
    Can dandruff on the world map also speak? Oh yes, this is a bank for the mighty.
  45. Nitarius
    Nitarius 17 February 2021 04: 09
    0
    pomoimu an illusion in the western fools .. when we come to visit on the tanks .. then .. they will disappear!
  46. oracul
    oracul 17 February 2021 07: 04
    0
    The illusion of the West is that the EU, the USA and the countries of the British commonwealth represent the whole world, and this, to put it mildly, is not entirely true. It is also like the opinion of a Swiss journalist about Russia is abstracted from reality. And we just live in it.
  47. Sibguest
    Sibguest 17 February 2021 09: 32
    -2
    Another European "Marcus" vomited humus.
    No more interesting?
  48. Vadim Ananyin
    Vadim Ananyin 17 February 2021 11: 16
    0
    He's not sick or paranoid, he just was.
    It is necessary to somehow light up, to show solidarity, to show concern about the behavior of the Kremlin, for freedom, and so on. So he stepped up on the occasion.
  49. kriten
    kriten 17 February 2021 12: 28
    0
    In difficult times, the main world bandit, who needs to rob someone to plug the hole, show an animal grin - take care, otherwise we will destroy. And let him be content with Europe, there is something to plunder, including in Switzerland, which advocates openness in contacts. It would be good for Russia to sit out a little to the side while 3 skins are tearing off them.