The media clearly showed the saturation of the air defense of the Khmeimim airbase

The air defense of the Khmeimim air base in Syria, organized by the Russian military, shows its effectiveness, and the Pantsir-S1 anti-aircraft missile and gun systems have proven their ability to deal with drones. This conclusion was reached by a Spanish military expert, author of the military blog Análisis Militares, publishing an infographic on the saturation of the Russian air base with air defense systems.

In his blog, the author writes that the Syrian rebels (militants - approx. VO), once again attempted to attack the Russian military airbase Khmeimim, but the base's air defenses successfully prevented the raid by shooting down all launched missiles.

According to him, the Russians have created a fairly effective air and missile defense system, saturated with various anti-aircraft systems and electronic warfare. Despite the large number of attacks made on the base with the help of missiles and drones, the built system throughout its existence did not allow a single hit, intercepting targets on the approach to the air base. Long-range interception is provided by the S-400 anti-aircraft systems, which have not yet been used due to the lack of targets for them.

The main defense of the base in the near zone is entrusted to the Pantsir-S1 air defense missile system, which intercept not only drones, but MLRS shells, which are periodically fired from the territory of the Idlib province, which is under the control of the rebels.

In addition, Russia has placed the Tor-M2 air defense missile system on Khmeimim. At the same time, the author claims that the Torahs were deployed on Khmeimim for testing them in combat conditions, and not because of the allegedly low effectiveness of the Pantsirei.

If the Pantsir-S1 air defense missile system were incapable of intercepting targets, it would be replaced by the same Tor-M2, but the Russians do not. The Pantsir / Thor ratio at the airbase is 6 to 1. (...) The Russians are interested in deploying a serious defense, because the threat of an attack on the base is real

- the author writes.

While on combat duty at the Khmeimim airbase, Pantsir-C1 air defense missile systems shot down more than a hundred drones of various types launched by the Syrian rebels, which proves their effectiveness in organizing air defense in the short-range zone, sums up the Spaniard.

Comments

[Victor_B]

Oh, and the bourgeois don't like our air defense!
Well, all sorts of couch bloachers keep up with NATO's talking heads.
Like - the voice of the people!

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Victor_B

Oh, and they do not like our air defense!

Well ... I like it, I don't like it, but all the same ... they are interested!

[venik]

Quote: Nikolaevich I

Well ... I like it, I don't like it, but all the same ... they are interested!

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And then! How interested they are! No wonder the "Shell" was stolen in Libya! And even the export version did not disdain ... Thieves !!

[Dmitry Potapov]

Nobody likes good air defense at all except those who have it!

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Nobody likes good air defense at all except those who have it!

"The dagger is good for the one who has it, and woe to the one who does not have it at the right moment ..." ("White sun of the desert" ...).

[Nemchinov Vl]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Nobody likes good air defense at all except those who have it!

- Sir, why do you dislike Russians so much ?
- Well, they have an excess of various complexes !!!
- What complexes sir ?
- What, what ...?! Anti-aircraft missile !!!

[venik]

Quote: Dmitry Potapov

Nobody likes good air defense at all except those who have it!

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PS We have a "Dagger \" .... And not only "Dagger" ......

[Real Pilot]

And potential foreign customers are looking closely.
This is a great advertisement for our weapons!

One cannot help but recall the drone / missile attack on the Saudi-Aramco oil refinery, when Saudi Arabia lost half (!) Of its capacity in a few minutes. They restored it, but the sediment remained.

The American air defense did not detect anything at all, although it should have protected the plant! And this is an indicator, everything is learned in comparison.

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: RealPilot

And potential foreign customers are looking closely.
This is a great advertisement for our weapons!

As advertising in general. Too much power is being used against too little power.
There is no video interception. Although YouTube should be full of them.
There the Houthis shot down the unfortunate CH-4, a news feed for several years.

Quote: RealPilot

The American air defense did not detect anything at all, although it should have protected the plant! And this is an indicator, everything is learned in comparison.

So our air defense did not show anything extraordinary. Full video of the destruction of the S-300, Thors and Shells. And those whom it protects continue to be bombed. In our country, the importance of air defense is exaggerated, this is a weapon of the last chance, and not a guaranteed protection against air threats.

[Klingon]

yes a lot of destroyed S-300 and so on. which you are talking about, but all because it falls into the hands of some baboons. Give the savages, who have not seen anything except bows, arrows and blowguns all their lives, AK-74, I think that they will not have enough sense to even insert a store horn, let alone shoot from it

[Piramidon]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Full video of the destruction of the S-300, Thors and Shells.

Those who were in the garage, and their operators were not injured, since at that time they were far from the cars.

[Dart2027]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Full video of the destruction of the S-300, Thors and Shells.

Are you talking about the Carapace, which was stupidly showered with a mass? Or about the one with empty ammunition?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Too much power is being used against too little power.

The forces are used exactly as much as necessary for each specific case. All volatile little things are safely shattered by devices designed specifically to neutralize threats of the appropriate scale. In other words, a drone is a drone, a balloon is a balloon.
And deployed - yes, to the maximum, in all echelons, with a guarantee. This was done with an eye to the fact that none of the defendants there who have more or less serious means for an air attack and thought would not have to check the reliability and effectiveness of ALL air defense systems of our base.

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

not a single video interception. Although YouTube should be full of them. The Houthis shot down the unfortunate CH-4, news feed for several years.

Interception of what and with what? I repeat - all the little things flying from the bearded ones are safely staggered, and nothing more serious flies there. "You are a pipe", it seems, does not owe anything to anyone. More precisely, our air defense is not obliged to post every burst or launch of the Pantsir missile. Moreover, all aggressive "gnarly midges" are destroyed at a distance, and as a result of hits, it scatters into a heap of sawdust.
And yes, our air defense is not Houthis (with all due respect to them), and victorious videos on the network to raise the morale of our Defense Ministry are definitely not required. Everyday combat work is going on, fixing of results is underway, but without all this network tinsel. It's a bit of a pity, of course, for the townsfolk, who are left without another spectacle, but alas, they will have to break off here.

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

So our air defense did not show anything extraordinary. Full video of the destruction of the S-300, Thors and Shells.

There, the post below has already been answered.

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

In our country, the importance of air defense is exaggerated, it is a weapon of the last chance, and not a guaranteed protection against air threats.

These are exclusively your personal speculations, not in any way connected with the real state of affairs.
And yes, following your logic, any means, including nuclear weapons, are the last-chance weapon. For any war is a priori "the last argument of the kings", and any database of which these wars are composed are extreme means to advance these very arguments. Something like this.

[vkfriendly]

Someone somewhere showed the palace on the video, and then the telegram channel Mash showed the real palace and its state, and that you continue to believe all the videos? Were in these "Shells" calculations when he was attacked and who was sitting there (maybe a monkey) and where it is happening in general. Everyone probably knows about stuffing and why they are made. The Turks probably wanted to sell more "bayraktars". But that's not the task the Germans and Canadians have stopped supplying the Turks with components for these drones.

[venik]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

So our air defense did not show anything extraordinary

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??? WHAT did you actually expect to see "extraordinary"? EFFECTIVE air defense work? Well - SEE!
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Quote: OgnennyiKotik

There is no video interception.

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Oh, what a pity !!!
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Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Full video of destruction of S-300, Thors and Armor.

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FULL? As for the S-300 - yes, they seem to have gotten it in Karabakh (and not the whole complex, but its individual elements), a Pair of "Pantsir" in Syria and several in Libya - yes, they were destroyed ...
Now, show the public a photo of the destroyed "Thor"!
PS And if you DO NOT show - then I will declare for all "IN" that you, Kitty - Chatterbox and "chatterbox"!

[Bar1]

and there are no planes or helicopters, or what?

[Konnick]

There, because of the effective air defense, there was no free space left. If each military object is covered with so many air defense systems, of different types and purposes, then there will not be enough funds to create the objects themselves. Does this not resemble the boast of the fox in relation to the raven?

[tihonmarine]

I am happy for the Russian military, happy for the Russian army, and I am glad that sane people in the West understand that the Russian army can rebuff any enemy.

[210ox]

The author writes about the ratio of types of weapons. So "Pantsir" is an object facility (and an airbase is an object). And "Thor" is a military weapon. Respect for the Air Defense Academy. Marshal Vasilevsky in Smolensk and to you, we have one small homeland.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 210ox

Respect for the Air Defense Academy. Marshal Vasilevsky in Smolensk

I didn't even know that there was an academy there, I remember it was in the 70s in the building of the former party school, an anti-aircraft artillery school.

[210ox]

Now there is an academy, and the Orenburg School has been transferred there. Now it is the only institution that trains specialists in military (including the navy) air defense.

[Dart2027]

Quote: 210ox

So "Pantsir" is an object facility (and an airbase is an object). And "Thor" is a military weapon.

Just some time ago, there were statements that they say the Carapace does not knock down anything, and everyone is doing the Torah.

[210ox]

"Thor" is quite an expensive tool for the same drones. It is easier to work with the "Tunguska" or "Pantsir" guns. Although, how it turns out in practice will not say.

[Dart2027]

Quote: 210ox

"Thor" is quite an expensive tool for the same drones. It is easier to work with the "Tunguska" or "Pantsir" guns.

Yes, and for Pantsir they have developed special extremely small and cheap missiles (they are charged by 4 pieces in one launcher) specifically against trifles.

[Flooding]

Quote: 210ox

The author writes about the ratio of types of weapons. So "Pantsir" is an object facility (and an airbase is an object). And "Thor" is a military weapon. Respect for the Air Defense Academy. Marshal Vasilevsky in Smolensk and to you, we have one small homeland.

But in fact, in relation to the airbase, they perform one task. Therefore, the comparison is probably legitimate. Is not it so?

[YOUR]

Naturally in one. Included in the general air defense system, with general command and target distribution.

[Flooding]

my question was not this

[210ox]

Of course. But "Thor" must act in motion, and not only. As for the "Shell", I only know from the publication that it covers more serious funds

[YOUR]

Quote: 210ox

But "Thor" must act in motion, and not only. As for the "Shell", I only know from the publication that it covers more serious funds

Why on earth should Thor act in motion?

[Dart2027]

Quote: YOUR

Why on earth should Thor act in motion?

So he is intended for this - to cover the troops on the march.

[YOUR]

You have a strange impression

The Tor system is designed to cover important administrative, economic and military facilities, the first echelons of ground formations from attacks by anti-radar and cruise missiles, remotely piloted aircraft, planning bombs, aircraft and helicopters, including those made using stealth technology. It can work both manually, with the participation of operators, and in automatic mode. At the same time, the "Tor" system itself controls the designated airspace and independently captures all air targets not identified by the "friend or foe" system.

[Dart2027]

Quote: YOUR

The Tor system is designed for

Of course, he can and does this too.

[figwam]

Quote: 210ox

Respect for the Air Defense Academy. Marshal Vasilevsky in Smolensk

And in Tver, the Academy of the East Kazakhstan named after the Marshal of the Soviet Union named after G.K. Zhukova

[210ox]

I mean the military air defense .. In Tver, is it really trained for "Thor" or "Pantsir"? In Yaroslavl, they are preparing for object air defense-missile defense

[YOUR]

The full name of the Air Defense Academy Marshal Vasilevsky - Military Academy military air defense of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation named after Marshal of the Soviet Union A.M. Vasilevsky

I took from their website what technique the specialists are preparing there for
SAM S-300;
SAM "Buk";
SAM "Tor";
SAM "OSA-AKM";
ZPRK "Tunguska", ZSU "Shilka";
SAM "Strela-10", MANPADS;
automated control facilities (ACS);
radar stations (radar).

It is quite possible that specialists for Pantsir are also trained there, in any case, the tactics of using Tunguska and Pantsir are similar. But there is one BUT. Because ZRPK Pantsir we have too little, then there is no need to create a separate faculty or school. What is more likely to send officers, for example, graduated from the Tunguska for retraining.

[stels_07]

Fight back until the air defenses are oversaturated ..

[gridasov]

I believe that not only defense is carried out, but also instantly attacking actions against the enemy

[Piramidon]

Quote: gridasov

I believe that not only defense is carried out, but also instantly attacking actions against the enemy

Air defense means?

[Doliva63]

Quote: Piramidon

Quote: gridasov

I believe that not only defense is carried out, but also instantly attacking actions against the enemy

Air defense means?

Are you from the military? Then they should know what it was - air defense means were supposed to strike on the ground.

[gjkrjdybr50]

You should drink the pyramidon and calm down. Why are you pretending to be a fool?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: gridasov

I believe that not only defense is carried out, but also instantly attacking actions against the enemy

And you think quite rightly.
In most cases, the reflection of the next drone attack on Khmeimim is followed by the fragmentation and annihilation of the next circle of bearded aircraft modelers.

[Ros 56]

Countries interested in this issue may take a queue.

[gridasov]

Military analysts must simulate the entire possible constellation of not only defense, but also the simulation of enemy attacks. In general, with such lengthy processes, it is better to have three bases.

[Alien From]

Something recently "partners" with defirambs have become frequent ...... then we are doing everything right!)

[Vadim Ananyin]

It seems that this is not the case, rather they have to accept realistically what it really is
In fact, our presence in Syria did not suffer the losses that they promised us in the beginning. Remember how they scared us with black bags ?!

[Alien From]

Remember, the main thing is not to relax!

[Vadim Ananyin]

I agree completely.

[Mavrikiy]

ZRPK "Pantsir-S1" shot down more than a hundred drones of various types launched Syrian rebels,

terrorists. so more precisely. If you have already clarified that these are militants, so why repeat "rebels"?

[Cowbra]

Greetings to the ArAmKo plant, reliably covered by aviation, air defense / missile defense and the American fleet

[rocket757]

The air defense of the Khmeimim airbase in Syria organized by the Russian military shows

Shows, proves WHAT? That protection against attacks of low intensity, by relatively simple means, our systems provide effectively .... this pleases, but the assessment for cost-effectiveness is not considered, but in vain! This is also an important criterion in light of the fact that we have a huge territory, objects that need to be protected by MASSA and ... there may simply not be enough necessary means of protection for everything that is needed!
Although, we proceed from the fact that we will not simply defend ourselves and the aggressor will immediately receive a crushing response !!! he will sharply become not up to the fact that used to attack ... himself to remain intact at least !!! This is really the best, capital argument against the implementation of crazy plans ...
However, this has little to do with the "barmaley"! there are other criteria for evaluating everything and everyone.

[Simon schempp]

but the assessment for cost-effectiveness is not considered, but in vain!

Exactly. They stuffed a tiny piece of land with all the most modern that Russia has in the field of air defense / electronic warfare, and they boast that not a single drone from aliexpress has yet opened this defense.

[rocket757]

So, okay, we have something to defend with .... now we do not mark time, but create something new, in sufficient quantity. A complex approach.
One thing is obvious, this is expensive "pleasure", but otherwise, so far, nothing.

[Cowbra]

Was the recent rocket attack from Ali-Express too? How are you bots tired of

[Simon schempp]

Was the recent rocket attack from Ali-express too?

Not. These were at once trident.

[rocket757]

Quote: Cowbra

Was the recent rocket attack from Ali-Express too? How are you bots tired of

Yeah, you certainly ... a specialist, really appreciated it and expressed how it was sealed

[Strannik96]

But it's good that the attacks have so far been unsuccessful! This means that the equipment and staff are working perfectly. Good weapons and trained personnel are always expensive

[gjkrjdybr50]

Answer for Simon Schempp.
What a damn thing, how a toad strangles! And if it had not been "stuffed", would have written that even to cover their troops there are not enough funds, and are they boasting? You are not from the center of special operations of the Armed Forces of Ukraine in Brovary near Kiev?

[Analkara]

To be precise, a NetOps employee

[Bare]

Glory to the RF military air defense

[Zaurbek]

I think that this is complemented by A50 AWACS, fighters and another air defense system - Iskander-M. Which makes it clear to the Turks that the airfields will not remain intact after the attack on our base.

[Viktor Sergeev]

If the air defense is inflated by various means, echeloned, then it can only be penetrated with a super massed blow. A strike by a dozen or even hundreds of drones on such air defense as in Khmeimi is stupidity and a waste of resources.

[A. Privalov]

I have no and never had any doubts either about the quality of Russian air defense systems in the Khmeimim area, or about the skill of the personnel serving them. However, what flew there from the hands of the bandyukos can, of course, be called the proud name "drones" - we call the bicycle "a vehicle". I hope that the Russians will not have to deal with anything more serious there.
But I like the opinion expressed by the Spanish blogger.

... While on combat duty at the Khmeimim airbase, Pantsir-S1 air defense missile systems shot down more than a hundred drones of various types launched by the Syrian rebels, which proves their effectiveness in organizing air defense in the short-range zone.

Now, I know exactly what the expression "Epic epics lead the story .."

[Strannik96]

And who revealed to you specifically what flew there?

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Strannik96

And who revealed to you specifically what flew there?

Specifically, who told: RVC, Interfax, Kommersant, and someone else.
Specifically, what flew in: In any image search engine using the key "drone attack on Khmeimim". And you will be happy.

[Strannik96]

And their correspondents themselves were sitting behind the screens during the shelling or were they sitting on the other side?

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Strannik96

And their correspondents themselves were sitting behind the screens during the shelling or were they sitting on the other side?

And this is not a question for me. "Their correspondents themselves" let them answer.

[Dart2027]

Quote: A. Privalov

Now, I know exactly what the expression "Epic epics lead the story .."

I remember the Professor assured me that the Israeli reconnaissance drones, which were sold to Georgia, did not go astray by the Russian air defense. True, it turned out that, according to the Georgians themselves, even the Abkhazians themselves shot them down.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Dart2027

I remember the Professor assured me

Anything and everywhere can be knocked down. Now, we are talking about Khmeimim.

[Dart2027]

Quote: A. Privalov

Now, we are talking about Khmeimim.

Then what didn't you like?

Quote: A. Privalov

Now, I know exactly what the expression "Epic epics lead the story .."

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Dart2027

Then what didn't you like?

Where did you get it? On the contrary!
I really liked the blogger who told how successful it was

knocks it down

[Dart2027]

Quote: A. Privalov

knocks it down

And not only

Moscow. May 8. INTERFAX.RU - Russian air defense systems have repelled another militants' artillery raid on the Khmeimim airbase in Syria, the head of the Russian Center for the Reconciliation of Warring Parties in the Syrian Arab Republic, Major General Viktor Kupchishin, said on Thursday.
"Today at 15 hours, militants of the Katiba Ard el-Bab and Katiba Jebel Butma terrorist groups from the Idlib de-escalation zone made another attempt to fire at the Russian Khmeimim airbase. In total, 15 were fired towards the airbase. rockets... Thanks to the efficiently organized air defense system of the Russian airbase Khmeimim, all missiles were shot down by the air defense on duty. There are no injuries or destruction, "said Kupchishin.

[A. Privalov]

It's very good that they shot down. True, they did not show anything. Apparently, they were embarrassed to tell whose production these missiles were.
So what do you need from me?

[boris epstein]

Don't forget that the blogger is Spanish, that is, a citizen of a NATO member country. And to them, Western magazine whores, to exaggerate something Soviet-Russian and put it in an unsightly light, don't feed them with bread. The true amount of what Khmeimim protects, neither he nor we know, and should not know. And about "this" - so there are Israeli, Turkish and American drones. And these are serious enemies.
In general, Khmpeimim is protected by a multi-level centralized air defense, in which each element performs its function.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Boris Epstein

And to them, Western magazine whores, to exaggerate something Soviet-Russian and put it in an unsightly light, don't feed them with bread.

Spanish blogger praises everything Soviet / Russian to Khmeimim.

Quote: Boris Epstein

And on account of "this one" - there are Israeli, Turkish and American drones.

THERE, none of this.
Never once, neither Israeli, nor Turkish, nor American drones attacked the Khmeimim base.
It was "this one" that was attacked in the photo above.
The attack / attacks were successfully repulsed. Dot.

[boris epstein]

Exactly HOW he praises (especially on infographics), and there is an exaggeration. We delivered exactly as much as needed.
"THERE, none of this.
Never once, neither Israeli, nor Turkish, nor American drones attacked the Khmeimim base. "
I DO NOT BELIEVE ! Syria is a proving ground. This is really the point.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Boris Epstein

Exactly HOW he praises (especially on infographics), and there is an exaggeration. We delivered exactly as much as needed.

You are joking? The S-400 complete set is freely available. Read, do not be lazy. I, of course, am not an expert on Russian air defense systems, however, as I see it, the picture does not even show a third of what is supposed to be. It's the same with the rest of the systems.
Well, but I believe / do not believe, this is not for me, sorry.

[boris epstein]

Today's information: "Syria repelled an Israeli missile attack on Damascus."
The Syrian State News Agency (SANA) reported that Syrian air defense forces in the skies over Damascus intercepted Israeli missiles and shot down most of them. SANA previously reported that Syrian air defense forces are repelling an Israeli attack on the western suburbs of Damascus. According to the agency, strong explosions were heard in the suburbs. "Today at 01.18 the Israeli enemy launched a missile strike from the occupied Syrian Golan and Galilee on a number of targets on the outskirts of Damascus, and the air defense systems repelled the aggression and shot down most of the enemy missiles," the agency quoted a military source as saying.
So all the same: "Never, neither Israeli, nor Turkish, nor American drones attacked the Khmeimim base."?
And what then did the Syrians shoot down?
Or have you forgotten the attack from the Mediterranean Sea 68 axes ("Tomahawks"), none of which reached the target?

[A. Privalov]

Dear Mr. Epstein, if you carefully read the text that you yourself copied here, then it is clear from it that the Syrians are telling how they allegedly shot down some of the missiles fired by the Israelis from the Golan Heights on the outskirts of Damascus.

American, Turkish and Israeli drones have never attacked the Khmeimim base.

If you are talking about the rocket attack on April 14, 2018, then how is the Khmeimim base here?
https://www.gazeta.ru/army/2018/04/16/11719003.shtml

[boris epstein]

Well, first of all, they were not allegedly shot down, but shot down.
Secondly, the rocket attack on April 14, 2018 was intended specifically for the Khmeimim airbase, but the missiles were disoriented by the electronic warfare equipment, some of them fell into the sea, some fell in the desert, some were shot down, and two missiles hit the Syrian airbase.
And the Israelis are launching their missiles from foreign airspace.
And where do the anti-Assad drones come from? You will not claim that they produce them themselves?
That's how unpleasant And Privalov is.
The word master can not be digested. I myself am not master over anyone, and I do not recognize masters over myself.
In general, shouldn't you stop lying and provocations and clog the thread with your spam?

[A. Privalov]

In this case, I do not dare to delay.

[Vadim Ananyin]

Well, here's to you, just recently I read that the Pantsir is shit and the S-300, 400 too,
If the air defense system is built, then there will be little chances for a raid and pinpoint strikes, if it is not there, then it will be like in Karabakh!

[Simon schempp]

The air defense of the Khmeimim airbase in Syria, organized by the Russian military, shows its effectiveness, and the Pantsir-C1 anti-aircraft missile and cannon systems have proven their ability to fight drones.

According to Khmeimim, manned aircraft did not work. It is a fact.
Neither Turkish, nor Israeli, nor American drones worked on Khmeimim. This is also a fact.
I do not understand what kind of efficiency we are talking about.

[maksbazhin]

Everything that you have listed is easier to shoot down than Chinese drones, there are no mountains around the base where you can hide and appear unexpectedly. you need to discuss saturation / efficiency / expediency, etc.

[rocket757]

Quote: Simon Schempp

This is also a fact.

This is you in vain. Air defense copes with the threat that was, is, in a particular situation ... not many can even boast of such indicators.
For a specific situation, the assessment is objective ... but in general, there was no way to check, get confirmation or refute.

[bairat]

Maybe that's why they didn't work because they understood that they would get nothing except losses?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Simon Schempp

According to Khmeimim, manned aircraft did not work. It is a fact.
Neither Turkish, nor Israeli, nor American drones worked on Khmeimim. This is also a fact.
I do not understand what kind of efficiency we are talking about.

That is, all the talk that all of the above could pose a threat to normal Russian air defense is just speculation.
They never worked against her. It is a fact.

[Strannik96]

Efficiency is also the understanding that their work will end up being knocked out, the Americans after the first firing of the S-75 sharply reduced their work on Vietnam - however

[andrew42]

The fact that aviation and heavy drones did not work is an indicator. An indicator that nothing shines for them there, at all. The "window" is tightly closed for them, and there is no desire to kill expensive military equipment about Khmeimim. Therefore, they "troll" the base with small cheap drones and MLRS shells - cheaply, and at the edge of the "window" range - they will suddenly roll over the "window sill".

[Kars]

The best air defense is tanks on the enemy airfield)

[rocket757]

I agree, I will only add + Iskander, Poplar, Sarmatians and other miscellaneous.

[Daemon]

Huge and sincere thanks to the developers, manufacturers and calculations of the Pantsir complex. You have saved many lives of our guys!

[mvg]

Doesn't it seem that the West is simply testing air defense capabilities in Syria? And the ratio is not in her favor. The destruction of several aircraft more than covers the costs of MLRS and plastic drones. And, if we take into account the cost of 57E6E, then hundreds of times.
PS: Plus two or three dozen beards.

[rocket757]

The check is very truncated in all respects.
She will not give much information.
I don’t think they will go to the expansion of methods of influence, checks ... the barmaleev should not have anything serious.
Time will tell what and why, to whom and why.

[mvg]

What does the barmaley have to do with it ??? They are interested in air defense because-because. There is a real-time training ground, plus the most modern that is in the RF Aerospace Forces. Israel has two very modern and powerful radars (one on a share with the United States), the sea of ​​information. From tactics to technology. Aircraft signatures, capabilities of S-300B4 and S-400 radars. Destruction tactics Beech and Shell.
Does anyone really think that with a normal organization, the air defense of Khmeimim or Tartus cannot be oversaturated? 10-15 MLRS and a couple of hundred drones - kamikaze. This is within the power of Daesh. After all, Palestine was able to organize 400 targets against Israel.

[Piramidon]

Quote: mvg

After all, Palestine was able to organize 400 targets against Israel.

There are still questions for intelligence. We missed the preparation.

[mvg]

There are still questions for intelligence

MOSSAD is arguably the most advanced intelligence in the world, although not as well funded as Langley. We, in due time, missed Ukraine, Georgia, Budenovsk, Pervomaisk, Grozny ... and a lot of things. And there, a country of 22 thousand m2 controls a dozen Arab states and does not allow the Persians to live.

[rocket757]

Everything was answered correctly ... intelligence and control, normal, then you can / should take preventive measures.
MLRS in a simple store cannot be bought, found and stopped, otherwise it will not work.
One thing is for sure, when politicians get involved, no amount of intelligence will help.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: mvg

After all, Palestine was able to organize Xnumx goals to Israel.

Please, more details about Xnumx goals

[mvg]

Please
https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-46192639

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: mvg

https://www.bbc.com/russian/news-46192639

Thank you, respected.
"Israeli planes hit about a hundred Palestinian military sites in the Gaza Strip on Tuesday night, the Israeli army said. The military action was a response to a massive missile strike from the Gaza Strip, during which the Palestinians fired at Israel approximately 370 missiles.
ROCKET, yes there were more, but only not 400 GOALS

[nnz226]

When a map is shown (albeit from non-Russian sources), it is good to translate all its data and explanations into Russian, so as not to rack your brains without being a polyglot!

[Adimius38]

Good air defense is a necessary measure. The region is unstable and can arrive from anywhere.

[andreykolesov123]

The most important thing is the people in the troops. Because you can't cook porridge with those who steal equipment from their own pilots.

https://www.yaplakal.com/forum2/st/25/topic2230673.html

[Old Skeptic]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Too much power is being used against too little power.

Tell this to the Saudis. And they will tell you how much money they spent on the restoration of their refineries.

[pvs512]

The Spaniard drew gibberish. Immediately behind Khmeimim and Tartus there is a 1 km-high mountain range, our air defense has not yet learned to see through the ground. Tomahawks in 2018 went south of Tartus, after the ridge turned to Shayrat.

[AC130 Gunship]

How "never allowed"? A couple of years ago, drones there destroyed several planes in the parking lots. All the media had pictures ...

[AC130 Gunship]

Good air defense also interacts with allies and does not allow them to shoot down other air forces. IL-20 a year ago ...

[Angry]

Hmm ... how not to recall the phrase of Albert Speer: "With the help of air defense you will not win the war, but without air defense you will lose the war." But it's too early for us to calm down, we need to have something cheaper, like the "Iron Dome". Probably based on the Grad MLRS? Have his NURSs change their heads and ...

[gjkrjdybr50]

Simon Schempp's answer "I don't understand what kind of efficiency we are talking about. [/ Quote]"
To understand, you need to have brains, it seems that this is not inherent in you. Instead of brains, one bile. Even comments with errors.

[trahterist]

Quote: OgnennyiKotik

Quote: RealPilot

And potential foreign customers are looking closely.
This is a great advertisement for our weapons!

As advertising in general. Too much power is being used against too little power.
There is no video interception. Although YouTube should be full of them.
There the Houthis shot down the unfortunate CH-4, a news feed for several years.

Quote: RealPilot

The American air defense did not detect anything at all, although it should have protected the plant! And this is an indicator, everything is learned in comparison.

So our air defense did not show anything extraordinary. Full video of the destruction of the S-300, Thors and Shells. And those whom it protects continue to be bombed. In our country, the importance of air defense is exaggerated, this is a weapon of the last chance, and not a guaranteed protection against air threats.

Your logic is to smash the most modern sample of weapons, Without a crew, and not on alert, and then screaming hysterically, technique shit!

How many squeals did the couch experts of "all military sciences" have when the Syrians (from the Local) or the Armenians were struck by the Armor.
And they ALWAYS lost sight of the fact that neither the crews were in place, and the complexes themselves were clearly not on duty.
Or how the same complex was "taken away" in Libya, obviously thanks to the eternal carelessness of the Babay crew, 100%.
Che, as soon as the Russian crew is "at the control panel" - there is nothing to boast more to the opponents, in general.

[DmSol]

On the question of drones with Ali. January 5-6, 2018 13 UAVs were simultaneously sent to Khmeinim and Tartus. 6 or 7 knocked down the Shell. 6 were intercepted by the REB (3 managed to land, 3 detonated during landing). And yes, this whole company was controlled by amers from Poseidon.