Greek press: Ukrainian minister proposed NATO to use airspace over Crimea during exercises

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The Greek press released a material that tells about Ukraine's preparation for joint exercises with NATO. These are exercises scheduled for fall 2021. The name for the maneuvers has already been chosen - "Enduring Fortitude". The plans for the exercise were confirmed by the Ukrainian Prime Minister Denis Shmygal, as already reported by Voennoye Obozreniye in one of the news materials.

The Greek edition of Pentapostagma provides some details of the discussion of the planned joint exercises between Ukraine and the countries of the Western military bloc. In particular, it is argued that in a conversation with Jens Stoltenberg, the head of the Ukrainian government suggested that NATO countries "use the airspace of the Crimean peninsula."



The same publication contains a statement by the Minister of Infrastructure of Ukraine Vladislav Krikliy. Greek journalists write that Krikliy also discussed future maneuvers with NATO representatives. One of those NATO officials with whom such negotiations were conducted was Patrick Turner. He is the Alliance's Deputy Secretary General for Defense Policy and Planning. In a conversation with Turner, Klikliy also announced a proposal from Kiev "to use the airspace of the Crimea for the transfer of troops, equipment and cargo."

Krikliya's statement is given:

We look forward to NATO support in monitoring the air situation along the border with Russia. We propose to use part of the Crimean airspace for air traffic control in the interests of joint operations.

The alliance headquarters has not yet commented on these statements.

If all the statements about the proposal to use the Crimean airspace for the Ukraine-NATO exercises are true, then this indicates another major provocation on the part of Kiev.
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  1. +13
    11 February 2021 13: 07
    Let NATO and Ukraine study information about the defense of Crimea by Soviet troops during the Second World War, this was Enduring Resilience, not a collapsed and impoverished Ukraine, which is trying to joke and provoke Russia!
    1. +12
      11 February 2021 13: 10
      Krikliya's statement is given:
      We look forward to NATO support in monitoring the air situation along the border with Russia. We propose to use part of the Crimean airspace for air traffic control in the interests of joint operations.

      Who will fight with Russia for the Ukrainians? Americans and NATO countries? fool
      Dumb-headed goof and pro-American sycophant Krickliya on soap!
      Krikliya from the cart - it's easier for the people of Ukraine!

      What surname - Krikliy ?! Means - to pour screams!
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      2. +2
        11 February 2021 14: 09
        Screamers

        Isn't that the screamer?
        1. +5
          11 February 2021 14: 56
          Quote: URAL72
          Isn't that the screamer?

          It looks like this lol
    2. +12
      11 February 2021 13: 12
      And after all this, someone propose to me to love Ukraine ?? I even perceive the words of VVP about the fraternal people with a sham of deep distrust, where did he see the brothers there ??
      1. +2
        11 February 2021 13: 21
        I have asked this question here on VO for a long time, where I saw my relatives there, and in response there was silence. laughing
        1. +16
          11 February 2021 13: 25
          He is not a senile Biden, he is the Head of State and cannot officially speak otherwise, but in the kitchen, over a glass of tea, Shoigu expresses everything (I'm sure) - Kuzhegetich, why are we babysitting with ho. trash, let's call Engels now and raise the strategists into the air on alarm with a course for Kiev ... laughing

          R. S. Yezhali Zelensky learns that strategists have taken off from Engels with a course for Kiev, then he will not be a member, but with a rectum on the piano, and the whole nationalist shobla will begin to sing along with him in falsetto. Only the mayor of Kiev will remain unperturbed for the reason that he did not understand anything ... laughing
          1. +4
            11 February 2021 14: 19
            R. S. Jezhali Zelensky learns that strategists have taken off from Engels with a course for Kiev, then

            He will find out about the strategists when they will come to land at home ... so no one there will jump around the piano and sing along in falsetto ... 404 does not have such monitoring tools, and civil services will not say much ...
            1. +2
              11 February 2021 14: 32
              hi Well, this is you already for a serious visit, of course they won't recognize, they won't even have time to think about Bandera ... laughing
              I still hope that the people who are being advertised here will wake up as normal ... Only there are more hopes for strategists!
              1. -3
                11 February 2021 14: 57
                Quote: Finches
                I still hope that the people who are advertised here as normal wake up ...

                1. +2
                  11 February 2021 22: 44
                  Lipchanin, good evening to you (at me 20:40)
                  Googled the original photo.
                  Why are you vulgarizing photos of crisp Russian guys with your inappropriate photoshoppers? These are really Russian guys, one of them was injured in a fight, why mold offensive letters on him?
                  Regards to you.
                  1. +2
                    11 February 2021 23: 01
                    Why are you vulgarizing photos of crisp Russian guys with your inappropriate photoshop?

                    His role is this - "flooder", and everyone likes it. Has cheap screenshots, and constantly pokes them. Diagnosis - "Incurable".
                    1. 0
                      11 February 2021 23: 15
                      His role is this - "flooder", and everyone likes it. Has cheap screens, and constantly pokes them. Diagnosis - "Incurable."
                      Neutral opinion: thank you !, ya accepted the structure of the current moment, but! - this is a living person who left a meaningful comment on an alarming forum about the reality of pensions.?.
                      Respectfully yours for the dialogue.
                      1. 0
                        11 February 2021 23: 59
                        comment on the disturbing forum about the reality of pensions.?.

                        What would the child not indulge in, if only he would not cry. Eh, pension ...)
            2. +1
              11 February 2021 14: 47
              It's like asking a friend to sleep with an ex-wife who married her husband.
      2. +9
        11 February 2021 13: 48
        Quote: Finches
        And after all this, someone propose to me to love Ukraine ?? I even perceive the words of VVP about the fraternal people with a sham of deep distrust, where did he see the brothers there ??

        There are brothers ... There are also normal people ... Only we do not hear and do not see them ... We pushed them in, beat them to svidoukry ... There is some kind of oppressive silence in our relations with svidoukriya ... These are my feelings .. all the scenarios of the war with svidoukriya cannot be avoided ...
        1. -3
          11 February 2021 13: 49
          Unfortunately, there are no more normal people there ... There are supporters, those who have nowhere to go, living out their days ... but they also allow us to trample our common roots for 30 years, which means there are no normal people there! hi
          1. +11
            11 February 2021 13: 50
            Quote: Finches
            Unfortunately, there are no more normal people there ...

            I communicate with cousins, their children There are normal people and a lot!
            1. -5
              11 February 2021 13: 52
              No ... There are supporters and my kraiu!
              1. +7
                11 February 2021 13: 54
                Quote: Finches
                No ... There are supporters and my kraiu!

                Do you so want to see? I see the situation from communicating with real people.
                1. +1
                  11 February 2021 14: 00
                  I have a dear uncle there, two things, a cousin, a brother ... So I have the moral right to see as I see! hi
                  1. +5
                    11 February 2021 14: 14
                    Quote: Finches
                    I have a dear uncle there, two things, a cousin, a brother ... So I have the moral right to see as I see! hi

                    Do I really deny the presence of svidoukrov? There are plenty of them, they are aggressive, close-knit. fueled by money and propaganda. One of my cousins ​​is a svidonatsik. True, he came to work in Sevastopol. He grunted his teeth, but was silent ... I am sure that this whole story of svidoukriy will end in a large-scale war. And the Americans are pushing Ukraine to the war, and we will have nothing to do but accept the war!
              2. +5
                11 February 2021 14: 18
                Quote: Finches
                No ... There are supporters and my kraiu!

                It's easy to say this while sitting in Russia. And there people are simply intimidated. And there they pull out one by one. Today he said too much on the phone or to a neighbor, but by the evening they already came for you ... On the phone they say one thing, but when they come to Russia, they tell something completely different.
                1. -2
                  11 February 2021 14: 22
                  They deliberately walked towards this for 30 years, but Belarus, Kazakhstan, with all the excesses of national consciousness, still did not do that!
              3. 0
                11 February 2021 14: 32
                Quote: Finches
                No ... There are supporters and my kraiu!

                It looks like they got you at the end recourse
          2. +6
            11 February 2021 14: 14
            It is good to speak from the couch, somewhere in Moscow or Anapa. How do you feel about Yu.A. Gagarin, was he also under Nazi occupation? And many other good people survived this horror, and then brought a lot of benefits to the country.
            1. +2
              11 February 2021 14: 17
              If we discard all your mercy, then Ukraine today is our enemy is a fact, as a state with a certain specific policy that needs to be destroyed, because there were anti-fascists in Nazi Germany, but this did not prevent us from reaching Berlin ... Another question is who is the first will start?
              1. +3
                11 February 2021 14: 35
                Quote: Finches
                If we discard all your mercy, then Ukraine today is our enemy is a fact,

                It is impossible to argue with this. We are talking about something else, if you give people other support or protect them from their own power, many will instantly change their colors. Now the common man has no support and no Defender there. And in order to create it, the War is not at all necessary.
                1. -2
                  11 February 2021 14: 39
                  Yeah ... We need cookies!
                  1. +2
                    11 February 2021 14: 43
                    Quote: Finches
                    Yeah ... We need cookies!

                    Not cookies. You need confidence in your own safety and the safety of your children. But this is NOT there now!
                    1. 0
                      11 February 2021 14: 48
                      Because there is no State and there has never been! But in 30 years they could at least give birth to something, and that they gave birth to a litter of Anglo-Saxons! And there is no need, I beg your pardon, to advocate, for all 30 years they, normal and not so, have been posing as a second France, even the same Donbass, Odessa .. and only Crimea remained in fact always Russian in spirit! And this is a fact! And the DPR and LPR, these are border crumbs, the rest are sold out!
                      1. +4
                        11 February 2021 14: 53
                        Quote: Finches
                        Because there is no State and there has never been!

                        And there has never been a State in history. This area has ALWAYS been under someone. Do you know why lard is so popular in Ukraine? Simply because a pig is the only living creature that the Crimean Khans did not hijack during the raids.
                      2. +3
                        11 February 2021 14: 56
                        Here I agree and wrote about this below! hi
                      3. +3
                        11 February 2021 18: 26
                        Quote: Cube123
                        this is the only living creature that the Crimean Khans did not hijack during the raids.

                        For that, the Polish gentlemen took it away. But not all ... lard was not eaten. That's from there, and the love of lard, blood sausage and other products from offal
              2. +4
                11 February 2021 14: 37
                I think you have already noticed that the state and the people are somewhat different "things". I think there are no bad people, there are bad people.
                1. +2
                  11 February 2021 14: 40
                  Quote: URAL72
                  there are bad people

                  ... in the leadership of the State. And the worst thing is if such people do not plan to live in this State for a long time. "Steal and dump!" And let the others disentangle ...
                2. +2
                  11 February 2021 14: 53
                  Not. In the State, sooner or later, everything falls into place - historical memory, mentality, national self-esteem ... And statesmen of the corresponding level come! There are thieves and there were, but Russia survived this and became a Country, and Ukraine has never been a country, but has become a mat! And everyone living there is to blame for this!
                  1. +3
                    11 February 2021 14: 57
                    It doesn't matter who she is, it matters who she will be. And it should be the Southwestern Federal District, without any autonomy and languages.
                    1. +1
                      11 February 2021 14: 58
                      I fully support! Yes, it will happen - walk the field again will return to its native harbor!
              3. 0
                11 February 2021 15: 07
                According to the classics of the genre, the Nazis begin at 4 am.
          3. -2
            12 February 2021 02: 40
            Zyablintsev, you yourself have been to the doctor for a long time.
      3. +2
        11 February 2021 14: 29
        Quote: Finches
        And after all this, someone propose to me to love Ukraine ??

        From the Internet
        "Valery Devyatko (Devyatko)

        09:43
        Damn, that's why the Russians understand that all Slavs are brothers, and we, Ukrainians, are so opposed to this?!?!?! And we are trying to convince ourselves that Ivans and Sergei, Svetlana and Natalya are not brothers and sisters to us, but the European Conchita and Juanita, Gomez and Pedro are okay !!!! Well, after all, nonsense !!!!!
        Tatiana Kravets BoldyrevaPletneva
        All Russia is shouting: Brothers Ukrainians !!! and in Ukraine they shout: maskals for knives ?????? "
        1. -2
          11 February 2021 14: 34
          Here I am about the same - one surgeon strike of strategists on, for example, Kiev, the whole nation will recover at once, even in Lviv ... Although Kiev is a pity (
          1. -2
            11 February 2021 14: 36
            Quote: Finches
            Although Kiev is a pity (

            We, after the Second World War, and not so rebuilt from the ruins.
            They will not ride, they will rebuild
            1. 0
              11 February 2021 14: 40
              I, with your permission, will correct you, what then, what now, we will rebuild, together! hi

              But, nevertheless, I hope that the Ukrainians will come to their senses, although this is unlikely, to be honest ...
              1. -2
                11 February 2021 14: 44
                Quote: Finches
                what will we rebuild now, together!

                And we need it?
                Let klyachkin show himself
                1. 0
                  11 February 2021 14: 45
                  Well, sort of like we zhahnul!
                  1. 0
                    11 February 2021 14: 47
                    Quote: Finches
                    Well, sort of like we zhahnul!

                    According to their numerous requests request
                    1. +2
                      11 February 2021 14: 57
                      laughing laughing we are real candidates for the Peacemaker!
                      1. +1
                        11 February 2021 15: 00
                        Quote: Finches
                        we are real candidates for the Peacemaker!

                        I will only be proud of it soldier
    3. +6
      11 February 2021 13: 21
      The Ukrainian minister offered NATO to use the airspace over Crimea during the exercises ...

      Kakly already conducted exercises over the Black Sea in 2001, as a result of which flight SBI1812 on the Tel Aviv-Novosibirsk route was shot down by an S-200 air defense missile system, then the tragedy with MAS17 Amsterdam-Kuala Lumpur over the Donbas in 2014. It is life-threatening to listen to these inadequate people and conduct military maneuvers with them.
      1. -2
        11 February 2021 14: 38
        Quote: frruc
        Listening to these inadequate and conducting military maneuvers with them is life-threatening.

        Have you read the title?
        Ukrainian Armed Forces will learn to take Viagra correctly lol
        1. 0
          11 February 2021 17: 30
          In this case, one must stay away from them, harassment in conditions of combat training is triple dangerous, everyone will start scattering from sexual gangsters.
          1. +1
            11 February 2021 17: 35
            Quote: frruc
            In this case, you need to stay away from them,

            In any case, you need to stay away from them.
    4. 0
      11 February 2021 13: 30
      You probably meant the defense of Sevastopol?
      1. 0
        11 February 2021 13: 34
        And him too! Serious resilience of the defenders! Let them think
    5. 0
      12 February 2021 02: 44
      Are they provoking to conduct a TEACHING?
      They can learn such a lesson that they will remember for a long time!
      We will teach, we will not rust soldier
    6. 0
      12 February 2021 04: 19
      Yes, but now there are no Soviet troops ...
    7. +1
      12 February 2021 08: 14
      They all know perfectly well, and they are not ruined and impoverished, but plundered, stupid.
  2. +3
    11 February 2021 13: 08
    Will there be social distancing?
    And everyone will be in double masks as ordered by Bidon the other day?
  3. 0
    11 February 2021 13: 08
    And let Ukraine also study how to tighten up its economy, and cling to Russia because of the Crimea!
  4. Hog
    +3
    11 February 2021 13: 09
    All jokes, but NATO members are not stupid either and will not get involved in another hohlyatsky adventure.
    1. +1
      11 February 2021 13: 26
      Why, there are Psheki-adventurers of the Balts and Georgians. You can expect anything from them with the active support of London and the Washington Regional Committee.
    2. +2
      11 February 2021 15: 07
      Quote: Hog
      All jokes, but NATO members are not stupid either and will not get involved in another hohlyatsky adventure.

      They know the consequences
      Such a proposal cannot be anything other than the most dangerous military provocation. If the leadership of the North Atlantic Alliance turns on the "fool's regime" and tries to use the Simferopol Flight Information Region (FIR) as if it were Ukrainian airspace, NATO aircraft and UAVs will be considered violators of the Russian state border with all the ensuing consequences for them. First, the aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces will rise towards the aviation of the western block in order to drive them away in this way. But if they continue to shove ahead, the Crimea air defense system will simply be forced to shoot them down. First, the current might of the Russian army allows it to be done, and secondly, Moscow simply has no other choice. An attempt by some side to question the sovereignty of the Russian Federation over Crimea should be suppressed extremely harshly. Otherwise, we ourselves recognize the "illegality" of the return of the peninsula imposed on us.

      https://topcor.ru/18585-rossija-budet-vynuzhdena-sbit-ljuboj-samolet-nato-narushivshij-granicy-kryma.html?utm_source=politobzor.net
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  6. +3
    11 February 2021 13: 09
    The alliance headquarters has not yet commented on these statements.

    In the headquarters, someone still has brains, in contrast to those who proposed.
    1. +1
      11 February 2021 14: 39
      Quote: rocket757
      In the headquarters, someone still has brains, in contrast to those who proposed.

      They have no desire to expose their planes to mortal risk
      1. +3
        11 February 2021 15: 03
        Yes, they don’t want to risk their own ... and substitute the tsuzykh, please.
        1. +1
          11 February 2021 15: 09
          Well, those are also not made with a finger.
          They themselves dream of setting up the Sumerians,
          And this attempt to substitute Nata, sewn with white threads and in Nata perfectly understand everything
          1. +2
            11 February 2021 15: 12
            here you are, nothing shines for the Sumerians.
            1. +1
              11 February 2021 15: 15
              Quote: rocket757
              here you are, nothing shines for the Sumerians.

              And they understand this perfectly and therefore they substitute
  7. +3
    11 February 2021 13: 12
    Vladislav Krikliy, NATO members are sent to dig potatoes in a minefield. lol
    1. +1
      11 February 2021 14: 40
      Quote: AVA77
      Vladislav Krikliy, NATO members are sent to dig potatoes in a minefield.

      Rather they are theirs will force
  8. +3
    11 February 2021 13: 19
    Just let this idiot get on the plane himself.
  9. +2
    11 February 2021 13: 22
    Okay, Ukrainian ministers, they are not on friendly terms with their heads. And what are NatY thinking about? After all, if they stick around, they will not be childish.
  10. 0
    11 February 2021 13: 22
    Oh, not without reason, the Armor on the eve of the ditch on the experiments!
  11. +19
    11 February 2021 13: 23
    Ukrainian Minister proposed NATO to use airspace over Crimea during exercises

    laughing Did he decide to set up the owners? To fight with Russia to the last NATO member ... Naive fool
    1. +3
      11 February 2021 13: 29
      Quote: Sergey Koval
      Did he decide to set up the owners?

      Naive this cry, he thinks the most cunning ... Kindergarten, pants with straps.
  12. 0
    11 February 2021 13: 32
    They committed themselves to suicide and offer NATO what does not belong to them and will no longer belong.
  13. +5
    11 February 2021 13: 32
    We propose to use part of the Crimea airspace
  14. -1
    11 February 2021 13: 40
    Pure provocation to finish off Ukraine and start a global mess.
  15. 0
    11 February 2021 13: 43
    Ukrainian Minister proposed NATO to use airspace over Crimea during exercises

    Like flying and hitting? belay fellow lol
  16. -5
    11 February 2021 13: 43
    Here is a formal reason for TMV if the plane is shot down over the Crimea.
    1. +1
      11 February 2021 13: 57
      The entry of an alien combat aircraft into Russian airspace is a direct reason to shoot it down. And the reason for TMV or not - we'll see.
      1. -6
        11 February 2021 14: 05
        Which states recognized Crimea as Russian, only satellites, and even then not all. So the Russian Federation will commit an act of aggression if a NATO plane is shot down. The reason is more than ...
    2. +4
      11 February 2021 14: 38
      Quote: Dimid
      Here is a formal reason for TMV if the plane is shot down over the Crimea.

      To be shot down, he needs to fly there. But I don’t think NATO is ruled by suicides and boobies, such as the Sumerians.
      1. -6
        11 February 2021 15: 01
        If there is a need for a formal reason and they will not agree to that. From the point of view of international jurisprudence, the Russian Federation will be the aggressor.
    3. 0
      11 February 2021 17: 43
      Quote: Dimid
      Here's a formal reason for TMV

      Yes, they do not need any reason. They are any law where they need to deploy.
      They came up with "Novichok" and the sanctions are scattered with a shovel, although they have not proved anything
  17. +1
    11 February 2021 14: 18
    Quote: Hog
    they will not get involved in the next hohlyatsky adventure.

    They themselves will not, but the Ukrainians can easily incite it
  18. -1
    11 February 2021 14: 20
    Well, in that case, I, as an ampirator of the universe, authorize Russia to use completely and solely the airless and airy space of the Moon Mars and all the planets of the universe entrusted to me, and for any purpose. Signature. Printing. Well, all the law is ready! (Sarcastic retelling and alligoria with a reaction to the news from the madhouse at the address planet earth, 404.) fellow
  19. +2
    11 February 2021 14: 26
    The name for the maneuvers has already been chosen - "Enduring Fortitude".

    "Enduring endurance in the pose of a drinking deer" good laughing
  20. 0
    11 February 2021 14: 53
    They need Rotenberg, not the Crimea. And he dug in in the palace, with a pole at the ready. laughing
  21. 0
    11 February 2021 14: 56
    Fly, and we also need to train air defense.
  22. 0
    11 February 2021 15: 02
    We have already seen "indestructible resilience" in the boilers of Donbass. Yes, and in the Crimea, too. "indestructible resistance" to receiving pensions and salaries of the RF Armed Forces.
  23. 0
    11 February 2021 15: 07
    The Crimea is combed again at the pots. )
  24. +1
    11 February 2021 15: 43
    ***
    "Powers' U-2 reconnaissance aircraft was shot down while flying over Sverdlovsk on May 1, 1960.
    Powers survived, was sentenced by a Soviet court for espionage to 10 years in prison "
    ---
    (From Wikipedia)
    ---
    Fly, pigeons, fly ...
    ***
  25. 0
    11 February 2021 15: 58
    put into your space, that's all participation ;-)
  26. 0
    11 February 2021 16: 59
    Such statements, suggestions - This is just the level of professional suitability, and an indicator of who is the weakest link in the chain of command in a particular department and at a particular place.
  27. +2
    11 February 2021 18: 28
    The generosity of Ukrainians knows no bounds.
  28. -4
    11 February 2021 19: 58
    Why does Greece turn Russia against Ukraine? Russia and Ukraine are one family. And in the family there are temporary scandals. Greece, as a bad neighbor, kindles scandals between them. Greece itself is in a sump and the campaign wants not to be alone. Turkey is doing the right thing by hitting Greece in the head. Envious people need to go down the stairs so that they know their place and do not litter others.
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  30. 0
    12 February 2021 16: 16
    Nu-nu, and the flight of the wreckage of the guest performers to the ground from above ... At the same time, they will compare the wreckage with the Boeing, the missiles of that system or not ...
  31. 0
    18 February 2021 00: 32
    Of course let them fly! The best exercises to destroy air targets of a real enemy cannot be imagined !!!!!