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In Ukraine, called the timing of the creation of the modernized tank T-64 "Crab"

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In Ukraine, called the timing of the creation of the modernized tank T-64 "Crab"

Kharkiv Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering. Morozova confirmed plans to create a modernized version tank T-64 within the framework of the Crab program. According to the channel "Ukraine 24", the work is planned to be completed by the end of 2021.


The essence of the "Crab" program is to replace old Russian components with new Ukrainian ones, so that the modernized tank becomes 100% Ukrainian base tank of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The T-64 tank is undergoing deep modernization. The main two directions are to increase the mobility of the tank by installing a power plant with a thousand horsepower engine, as well as the installation and use of more advanced aiming means and fire control systems

- said the KMDB.

It is emphasized that at the same time, Ukrainian engineers will take into account the experience of the combat use of tanks in the Donbas and "will be able to avoid the mistakes of the Russians, which they made with the T-72 and T-90 during the modernization."

The modernized T-64 will remain the main tank of the Ukrainian Armed Forces for the next 25 years. This was announced earlier by the country's Deputy Defense Minister Alexander Mironyuk, who is in charge of weapons issues. The first prototype of the improved T-64 of the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine expects to receive at the end of 2021 or early 2022.

Also, the Ministry of Defense of Ukraine plans to receive Oplot tanks, but not earlier than 2023. In relation to this tank, an R&D project is also underway under the code "Bastion", which provides for the complete replacement of Russian parts by domestic or foreign ones.
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  1. Guru
    Guru 9 February 2021 13: 31
    +17
    The essence of the "Crab" program is to replace old Russian components for new Ukrainian ones, so that the modernized tank becomes 100% Ukrainian base tank of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.
    Maybe the old Soviet ones?
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 9 February 2021 13: 49
      +16
      Ukraine called the timing of the creation of the modernized T-64 tank "Crab"

      Well ... "On the way, on the road, with a tailwind in the humpbacked back" yes ... The next modification - "Cuttlefish"
      1. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 9 February 2021 17: 50
        +5
        In British slang, crab is pubic louse laughing
        1. aleks neym_2
          aleks neym_2 9 February 2021 20: 30
          +3
          Not everyone can understand and appreciate the English humor. Well, it looks like INTO ...
        2. Revolver
          Revolver 10 February 2021 01: 24
          +1
          Quote: Bolt Cutter
          In British slang, crab is pubic louse laughing

          American too.
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 10 February 2021 01: 41
            +2
            I remember in the 90s these animals were called mustangs belay
    2. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 9 February 2021 13: 49
      +9
      Quote: Guru
      Maybe old Soviet

      In Soviet times, such animals were called crabs:

      So I do not expect anything outstanding from Ukro "Crab". laughing
      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 9 February 2021 14: 46
        +6
        By the way ... Somehow, there is no noticeable festive mood in the Outskirts and Poland ...

        These "allies" have something to celebrate together on February 9, when in 1943, 78 years ago, a hundred Bandera men under the command of Grigory Perigiynyak attacked the Polish village of Paroslya in Volyn, killing more than 150 civilians. This attack was the first massacre of Poles by Ukrainians, and from this event the so-called "Volyn massacre" began ...

        1. Constanty
          Constanty 9 February 2021 16: 17
          +4
          Believe me, in Poland they remember - maybe not the authorities, but people in western Poland - repatriates from the territories of today's Ukraine, and it is a scandal that the Polish Foreign Ministry does not react harshly to attempts to glorify Bandera, Melnik, Bulba or another Taras Chuprynka in Ukraine. The UPA was not even an enemy - it was a neighbor who turned out to be not a man. I have no words to describe the UPA - rezun and the murderer of children and women :-(
    3. svp67
      svp67 9 February 2021 15: 06
      +3
      Quote: Guru
      Maybe the old Soviet ones?

      Well, let's just say, released in Russia. And here many questions immediately arise, there is something that in Ukraine they could not arrange for release, in the required quantity and quality. For example, the barrels and the tank guns themselves, will they have time to solve this problem by the end of 2021? I doubt
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 9 February 2021 15: 37
        +3
        Quote: svp67
        will they have time to solve this problem by the end of 2021? I doubt

        For 30 years they have not solved more than one problem.
        But they can only break and destroy
      2. Old tanker
        Old tanker 9 February 2021 17: 24
        -1
        The T-64 was assembled exclusively in Kharkov!
        1. svp67
          svp67 9 February 2021 17: 37
          +2
          Quote: Old Tankman
          The T-64 was assembled exclusively in Kharkov!

          And from what? Where did the components come from? Armored parts, sighting systems, stabilizers of tank armament, tank armament, etc., etc.
          1. Old tanker
            Old tanker 9 February 2021 18: 14
            0
            Armor from the Mariupol Metallurgical. So Ukrainian.
            Then tanks were built by the whole country at all four factories. Only the manufacturer was responsible for the final product.
            And so the current modernization of the T-72 can be called Franco-Belarusian. The "Sosna-U" complex comes from there. Moreover, evil tongues say that in the "Aqueducts" T-72B3 part of the element base is from China. But for some reason no one calls the R-168 Chinese.
            1. svp67
              svp67 9 February 2021 18: 49
              +2
              Quote: Old Tankman
              so the current modernization of the T-72 can be called Franco-Belarusian.

              Yes, at least what you call it, but we do not refuse this, but they decided to completely change the suppliers. The same STVs were sent to their tanks from Russia. Previously, the MSA were from the RSFSR, but for the fastest deployment of production in Kharkov of the T-80UD tank, production was deployed in Cherkassy
              1. Old tanker
                Old tanker 9 February 2021 20: 58
                +1
                What's the difference from what now the Ukrainians will sculpt their tanks? They refused from Russian components and a flag in their hands, a drum around their neck.
    4. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 9 February 2021 15: 35
      +1
      Quote: Guru
      Maybe the old Soviet ones?

      Nah. They now have everything against Russia.
      1. Guru
        Guru 9 February 2021 16: 02
        +3
        Hello Sergey.
        Nah. They now have everything against Russia.

        From the category "I will frostbite the ears of my grandmother" laughing In general, an interesting fact - the development of the T-64 under the index object 432 began in the mid 50s, in 64g. started the release. It is now 2021;
        The modernized T-64 will remain the main tank of the Ukrainian Armed Forces for the next 25 years.
        it is only planned to be replaced by 2046. It turns out that the dill T-64 will be in service for almost 100 years.
    5. Kuroneko
      Kuroneko 9 February 2021 16: 22
      +1
      Quote: Guru
      Maybe the old Soviet ones?

      Yeah. By NATO standards. = 3
  2. Alien From
    Alien From 9 February 2021 13: 33
    +7
    It was an excellent plant in Kharkov, now here .......
    1. aleks neym_2
      aleks neym_2 9 February 2021 14: 09
      +7
      Where is the "peacemaker" looking with his decommunization? How long will the plant bear the name of the GREAT DESIGNER MOROZOV? Do not hide behind his name - you are not capable of anything except a bulkhead of rusty iron ... (this is a complaint against the plant). Take an example from a 14-year-old kid who teaches "venerable leading designers" how to create TANKS and ... go ahead for cash injections - maybe there will be enough for the Maldives? To buy matches? .. or you yourself will get the gentlemen!
      1. monster
        monster 9 February 2021 14: 32
        +12
        About a rostka and a tank made of cardboard, there was an epoch-making zashkvar. When I watched this video, I whinnied with laughter, but when they showed the venerable, gray-haired engineers of the Soviet school, forced to listen to the ravings of a gray mare from a pimply schoolboy, I became ashamed, ashamed and bitter ...
        1. aleks neym_2
          aleks neym_2 9 February 2021 16: 51
          +2
          I agree 100%! Here, not only weep, we want to burn with a bright flame! It's good that there is no Russian gas - but out of shame for these "wise men" there is something on the TV screen in the language ... the editorial office does not let it go ...
    2. Xnumx vis
      Xnumx vis 9 February 2021 14: 27
      +1
      Quote: Alien From
      It was an excellent plant in Kharkov, now here .......

      No crab, no crab .. so yellow-blue oyster!
  3. yfast
    yfast 9 February 2021 13: 34
    +3
    Crab crab.
  4. Cowbra
    Cowbra 9 February 2021 13: 37
    +6
    Crab - because it can only move sideways? Or lives at the bottom? You can even say the bottom.
    The statement contains no information at all. However, they did not forget to mention some mythical mistakes in the Russian Federation ... Well, by the way, it has long been clear that there is no longer any treatment there
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 9 February 2021 13: 53
      +2
      Quote: Cowbra
      Crab - because it can only move sideways? Or lives at the bottom? You can even say the bottom.

      Hermit crab, for not having its own, in someone else's, Soviet "shell".

      1. Insurgent
        Insurgent 9 February 2021 14: 05
        +2
        The picture has become "crooked" ...

      2. Paranoid50
        Paranoid50 9 February 2021 23: 42
        -1
        Quote: Insurgent
        Hermit crab, for not having its own, in someone else's, Soviet "shell".

        Duc, the fact is that they shopped the name of this "promising" device from the "neighbors on the left". This is the kind of hat the Poles brought to Donbass in 2015, as if for testing:

        This ACS "Krab", 155 mm, a kind of Polish "Frankenstein" with a turret from the AS-90 (license) and a suspension from the T-72. Then, five years ago, at first the mention of arrivals of 155 mm was surprised in Basurin's reports, but later Sergey (Lord of Sith) explained, and everything fell into place. She did not ride there for very long, after which she safely went home, out of harm's way. However, I am sure that you are aware of this topic. hi
        1. Insurgent
          Insurgent 10 February 2021 07: 48
          -1
          Quote: Paranoid50
          This ACS "Krab", 155 mm, a kind of Polish "Frankenstein" with a turret from the AS-90 (license) and a suspension from the T-72.

          So what's this? "T-72, which is back-to-front", "to the inversion" (leading "star" in front)?

          Then it's some kind of amphipod crayfish what ...

          Quote: Paranoid50
          at first, Basurin's reports were surprised by the mention of 155 mm arrivals


          There are many surprising things in Basurin's reports yes , therefore, based on a comparison of what he claims, and comparison with real data from my observations and experience, his data is needed sometimes recheck ...

          Quote: Paranoid50
          However, I am sure that you are aware of this topic.


          Naturally, I heard about the use of 155mm ammunition during the battles for Debaltseve. But I emphasize - just heard... I have no exhaustive evidence or signs of the use of such a caliber, as well as no arguments to assert that this was not, or could not be.

          Actually, like the appearance of the German "Leo" in the "south" ...
          1. Paranoid50
            Paranoid50 10 February 2021 11: 20
            -1
            Quote: Insurgent
            So what's this? "T-72, which is back-to-front", "to the inversion" (leading "star" in front)?
            More precisely, the T-72 is there in the role of "stepfather", and the final base is from the "RT-91 Twardy", a bastard of "seventy-two".
            Quote: Insurgent
            Basurin's reports contain a lot of surprising things, his data sometimes needs to be rechecked ...
            So I made inquiries. yes There was still no reason not to trust the Sith. hi
  5. tarabar
    tarabar 9 February 2021 13: 39
    +7
    Even joking on this topic is somehow not a hunt. Already tired, and so everyone understands everything.
  6. Fidel
    Fidel 9 February 2021 13: 40
    +4
    Brains better let themselves modernize. Better to replace.
    Looks like the herds of tanks in storage, which remained from the Union, are running out, and out of 4 it is no longer possible to collect one.
    1. orionvitt
      orionvitt 9 February 2021 19: 44
      +1
      Quote: Fidel
      out of 4, one can no longer be collected.

      To begin with, let them assemble the only remaining "Stronghold" to which they cannot give the mind. And then they swung at the "new" tank to equip the entire army. In addition, the phrases about 25 years of rearmament make you smile. They can see themselves a thousand years of life painted, for ukroreiha. laughing
  7. Magic archer
    Magic archer 9 February 2021 13: 41
    +8
    All the same old T-64, nothing more. Cannibalism has already nullified everything there was. Apparently these are the remnants being finished. Then they just cut it for scrap and they will beg all over the world, give them tanks! The already killed Leo-2 of old modifications will receive from the conditional Germany and will be satisfied. In this case, the Kharkov plant will die. That's the whole story
  8. Doccor18
    Doccor18 9 February 2021 13: 42
    +7
    The essence of the "Crab" program is to replace old Russian components with NEW Ukrainian ...

    Very doubtful.
    The barrels of guns are still being installed ...
    1. donavi49
      donavi49 9 February 2021 13: 46
      +4
      Well, here they want to put a serial engine, as they send to all sorts of Pakistan (6TD) + a normal MSA with a teplak, maybe even a panorama will be screwed.
      1. Constanty
        Constanty 9 February 2021 16: 26
        +1
        I would rather bet that they plan to assemble 5TDFMA with a capacity of 1050 hp. as on the T-72UA1 for Ethiopia. 6TD is much more expensive.
      2. Old tanker
        Old tanker 9 February 2021 17: 29
        +1
        Will the hodovka survive? In the glorious Soviet times, she could not stand it. Therefore, only on the T-80UD they were siavili
  9. JD1979
    JD1979 9 February 2021 13: 44
    +1
    Briefly about the news:
    Kharkiv Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering. Morozova confirmed PLANS


    What do they have, what do we have - a huge amount of plans, but the exhaust ...
  10. NDR-791
    NDR-791 9 February 2021 13: 47
    +5
    In Ukraine: Modernization of T-64 "Crab" tanks will be carried out without repeating Russian mistakes with T-72 and T-90 from December 24, 2020
    Here is it: https://topwar.ru/179817-na-ukraine-nazvali-sroki-sozdanija-modernizirovannogo-tanka-t-64-krab.html
    I specially typed directly on VO "modernization of Ukrainian tanks." Dropped as many as 80 links to great plans since 10 years wassat good
  11. HAM
    HAM 9 February 2021 13: 55
    +2
    Mironyuk is a clairvoyant, he looked 25 years ahead ..... he saw a dacha in Miami, and a lot of sweet things ..
    laughing the name of the Poles was Ukrainian ...
  12. Alexander X
    Alexander X 9 February 2021 13: 57
    +4
    Will Soviet steel hulls also be replaced with Ukrainian ones?
  13. APASUS
    APASUS 9 February 2021 13: 59
    +1
    The modernized T-64 will remain the main tank of the Ukrainian Armed Forces for the next 25 years.

    This is news, they admitted their helplessness at the official level, but at least honestly.
  14. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 9 February 2021 14: 03
    +3
    It will be like with the Bulwark for the parade - 1 will be done, okay.
    Or they will paint old T-64s with active defense squares without explosives and let them go to the parade as "modernization".
  15. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 9 February 2021 14: 10
    +2
    Ukrainian engineers will take into account the experience of the combat use of tanks in the Donbass

    Will shoot the barrel and retractable white flag. Backlit to be visible at any time of the day and in all weather conditions.
  16. cniza
    cniza 9 February 2021 14: 22
    +3
    The essence of the "Crab" program is to replace old Russian components with new Ukrainian ones, so that the modernized tank becomes 100% Ukrainian base tank of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.


    Between wanting to plan and doing, there is a lot of hard work with considerable funds ...
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 9 February 2021 15: 01
      0
      Quote: cniza
      Between wanting to plan and doing, there is a lot of hard work with considerable funds ...

      It's easier for them to recolor and give away
      It seems so soon they will do
      1. cniza
        cniza 9 February 2021 15: 13
        +1
        So the experience already exists, it's hard to expect another from them ...
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 9 February 2021 15: 40
          +1
          Quote: cniza
          So the experience already exists, it's hard to expect another from them ...

          There are such words in the song: "Make a fairy tale come true", so they make any nonsense, any crap (vegetable) come true
          1. cniza
            cniza 9 February 2021 16: 10
            +1
            Quote: Lipchanin
            so they make any nonsense, any crap (vegetable) come true


            But it remains only in their use, as those mice prick, but continue to eat the cactus ...
  17. Pavel57
    Pavel57 9 February 2021 14: 24
    0
    Quote: Cowbra
    Crab - because it can only move sideways? Or lives at the bottom?

    Well, not Cancer,
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 9 February 2021 15: 05
      -1
      Quote: Pavel57
      Well, not Cancer,

      They themselves became cancer before the Yankees
      1. Split
        Split 9 February 2021 19: 46
        0
        Quote: Lipchanin
        They themselves became cancer before the Yankees

        They did not, but Вsteel
  18. monster
    monster 9 February 2021 14: 26
    +1
    Boo ha ha wink t34 and IS-2 will get ready. All for the protection of the crotch, pah, you devil, nenki wassat
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 9 February 2021 15: 06
      0
      Quote: Monster
      .All to protect the crotch,

      More precisely
  19. 113262a
    113262a 9 February 2021 14: 27
    0
    So there and a little IMPORT SUBSTITUTE then! The cannon, it will last for a long time, if the BP is not fired, the armored hull will not be demolished, the Engine, and so, according to the electrics, yes, Leningrad made the VKU. The radio stations will be replaced with bourgeois ones, they have their own sights, with a French night channel. So they may well! This is if the chassis is not changed to an eighty one to the level of Birch.
    1. Insurgent
      Insurgent 9 February 2021 15: 11
      +3
      Quote: 113262
      So they may well!

      How much? Two ones, five, ten, twenty?

      And how much is needed for the "retiring", taking into account the replacement of the "retired"? How many of its "panzers" Outskirts lost in summer-autumn 2014, and winter 15?
      And those losses that they still will have, when trying to "reintegrate" us, they will not seem like slaps on the buttocks ...
      1. 113262a
        113262a 9 February 2021 19: 12
        +1
        Silently modernizing. Methodically and diligently. Since 14, I think, maybe the regiment (100 units) was shoveled. The most time-consuming thing is to stretch the wiring cut in color. ... In 10, I was at their (Malyshev's) site. Where there are hundreds of three cars stacked with bandaging. This is not counting the storage bases (have not seen!) Takvot-electrical wiring and other color has already been cut out.
    2. Old tanker
      Old tanker 9 February 2021 17: 34
      +1
      We also have a greenhouse on the "Pine" from the French company "Thales".
  20. Svetlana
    Svetlana 9 February 2021 14: 32
    -1
    Dreamers. Their purpose is to buy, not to produce. IF they are sold, they will ride the Abrams. Well, or Leopards
  21. monster
    monster 9 February 2021 15: 02
    0
    As you, Bandera, do not sit down, but in the constructor And you are no good !!!
  22. zenion
    zenion 9 February 2021 15: 11
    +1
    In general, like in cartoons. Everything will start with a barrel, which, with one stroke of a pencil, turns from Soviet into Ukrainian, and in a few minutes the armor changes and that's it, everything becomes blakytny.
  23. Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 9 February 2021 17: 02
    0
    But what about dekcomunization? Again, they will take a USSR tank, replace a couple of modules inside, and most likely a makeshift DZ and repaint ...
  24. Old tanker
    Old tanker 9 February 2021 17: 22
    +2
    I remember in Soviet times a 1000 strong 6TD was installed only on the T-80UD with its more reinforced chassis. The native sixty-four could not stand it. I wonder how they have solved this problem now. Or did you not bother about this at all?
  25. Ryaruav
    Ryaruav 9 February 2021 18: 12
    0
    But what about NATO standards? if the pint is written on the cans of beer, then this is not bad, but if there is no cannon, no shells and suo by NATO standards, then what is the conversation about
  26. Hiller
    Hiller 9 February 2021 19: 59
    +1
    Crab, cancer .... "and you friends, no matter how you sit down, you are not suitable for musicians" ... they abandoned their history and got stuck in history. In all spheres of being. There is no desire to even comment. Country 404 and only. And 64 is a "capricious car ..." quote from our deputy. the commander of a tank regiment for armaments - to the factory workers who arrived in the regiment on numerous complaints.
  27. CastroRuiz
    CastroRuiz 9 February 2021 21: 06
    0
    Dozhiet li ZIM do etoy modernizacii?
    Tak on uzh teper na grani bankrota.
  28. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 9 February 2021 22: 19
    0
    Conclusion, regardless of whether the T-64 is upgraded to the "crab" state or not)))))) - another 25 years in service as MBT ..... basically, that's all you need to know ..... you can wrap anything in a beautiful wrapper of florid explanations, but this will not become a gift of gifts
  29. Ovsigovets
    Ovsigovets 9 February 2021 22: 21
    0
    Quote: svp67
    Quote: Guru
    Maybe the old Soviet ones?

    Well, let's just say, released in Russia. And here many questions immediately arise, there is something that in Ukraine they could not arrange for release, in the required quantity and quality. For example, the barrels and the tank guns themselves, will they have time to solve this problem by the end of 2021? I doubt

    RSFSR
  30. agoran
    agoran 9 February 2021 22: 31
    0
    What can the descendants of the ancient Sumerians do well?
    Lard, gorilka, borscht, Kiev cake-bizet. By the way, in the Borispol restaurant, the Kiev cutlet was still disgusting.
    Well, produce what you can do well, but without a leading and guiding Russian you cannot produce anything technologically advanced.
  31. Growlers
    Growlers 11 February 2021 15: 06
    +6
    There everything is created in one maximum of 10 pieces. Soon the cemetery of Soviet tanks will end, they will only make one piece at a time