The fiasco of the palace coup. How the "Berlin patient" tried to overthrow the Russian government

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The same "Putin's Palace". It is still under construction. Photo: mash / Youtube


German cinema


I would not like to repeat the words of the famous Russian propagandist Dmitry Kiselev, but the German film about "Putin's palace" is a real foreign sabotage.



The drama is masterfully filmed in bulk, stuffed with pseudo-documentary evidence and stereotyped judgments. Even the most superficial analysis of what is happening on the screen leaves no doubt about the theatricality of what is happening.


Source: cryptofeed.ru

The purpose of the film is very simple - as radically as possible to tarnish the image of Vladimir Putin and his entourage in the eyes of, first of all, young people. Why did foreign authors choose children and adolescents as their target audience?

First, adults, as expected, perceive the world around them more critically and are less radical in their judgments.

Secondly, young people have a heightened sense of justice, even if it fails in the perception of reality.

Thirdly, the young have nothing to lose. Most of them are not burdened with family, work, and sometimes even study.

And finally, fourthly, teenagers are a great tool for inciting hatred.

Several outright provocations, followed by the violent dispersal of the protesters, can become excellent trimmers for new, larger-scale demonstrations. Outraged parents, and just sympathizers, stand up for the children beaten by the security forces - an excellent scenario for the Russian Maidan-2021.

Only the strategists who feed Navalny's office did not take into account that young people who do not need their parents would take to the streets. More precisely, of course, is needed. But only in the format of an offspring buried in a smartphone, who does not ask anyone questions and does not attract unnecessary attention.

Also a very vicious offspring, whose hatred sometimes goes beyond all boundaries.

The post by Semyon Slepakov in his Instagram account, filled with disgusting curses from Navalny's fans for the author's completely harmless and witty rhyme, is very indicative. The true face of democratic protest in all its glory. Read it, you will not regret it - you will learn a lot about the morality of those who are ready to go to rallies under the impression of the German film and the arrest of Navalny.

The logic of the film "Putin's Palace" was built in full accordance with the outlook of the target audience. A lot of facts and visual balancing act, not particularly supported by evidence base.

For example, a conversation with an FSB officer on the phone explaining that Cape Idokopas must be bypassed by boat for two miles. The filmmakers did not bother to provide any, even the most primitive proof of the reality of the conversation with the secret service employee. At least they inserted a close-up of the moment of dialing the real number of the officer on duty of the FSB of Russia in the Krasnodar Territory. It's not difficult - the phone is publicly available. So at least they added a natural flair to the plot.

An important part of German cinema with Navalny is occupied by computer graphics of the interior decoration of the palace. She's really impressive. The thoughts immediately come to mind that this could only be done in the West. Unfortunately, even in the box office Russian cinema, special effects can be found much cheaper.

And again about Navalny's teenagers. Accustomed to consuming information mainly through ready-made images of YouTube, TikTok and Instagram (and not through reading complex texts), young people willingly turn off critical thinking and are thoroughly saturated with Western propaganda.

But all the same, the scriptwriters of "Putin's Palace" had some punctures.

And they deserve close scrutiny.

"Easter eggs" by Navalny


Small lies are known to breed great distrust.

With the implementation of this thesis at the German film studio Black Forest, which filmed the film for Navalny throughout December last year, everything turned out to be in order. They did not follow the Montenegrin eagle, which crouched at the entrance gate of the palace, although the original legend was about the two-headed eagle of the Russian Empire. They are really very similar, but on the chest of an eagle from Montenegro there is a leopard lion, and in the Russian original there is an image of George the Victorious.

This is not even outrageous. And the carelessness of Navalny's team.

How did it happen that the people who scraped out all the ins and outs of the corruption scheme of the higher echelons of the Russian government could not identify such an epic fake?

Or FBK activists have nothing to do with the script of the film? And did the Western special services do all the work for them?


On the left is the Russian coat of arms according to Navalny, on the right is the real one. Photo: vesti.ru screenshot

Navalny could not recognize in the script of his revealing film another Easter egg, kindly prepared by Western directors.

It's about a room or a storehouse of dirt, the presence of which in the "Putin's Palace" was so indignant at the main character of the story. It is not entirely clear why she is in such a fashionable building at all?

But it is very likely that this is a clumsy translation of the word mudroom - hallway. That is, the originally English-language text for the film was simply very unprofessionally translated into Russian. And they passed it off for the president's lordly manners.


There is also a library in the "Putin's Palace". Completely transported from the Strahov Monastery in Prague?
Photo: YouTube.com / strahovskyklaster.pano3d.cz

But all of the above is noticeable only to a trained eye, initially set to search for script failures.

But the episode at 58 minutes and 36 seconds of the film, even from the first viewing, is out of the general tone of the narrative.

Navalny shows a photo of the Philosophical Hall of the Strahov Library in Prague, passing it off as one of the many rooms in Putin's Palace. The building supposedly contains a multi-storey library hall with tens of thousands of books. Again, this is not a matter of rigging photographic evidence. And in the destroyed logic of German cinema.

Up to this point, according to the script, Navalny methodically and very cheaply dehumanized the image of Vladimir Putin, turning him into anyone, but not into a lover of intellectual leisure. For this, the legend was served by the notorious aquadiskotheque, a game room with machines, vineyards with a winery and a hookah bar.

And then suddenly a whole library filled to the brim with folios that one person cannot read in ten lives.

I just want to answer this already famous:

"Boring girls."


The inner courtyard of the palace, built by the "stolen". Source: «Medusa»

The plots of the Mash channel and Russia-1 channel, in which correspondents with television cameras were allowed inside the notorious “Putin's Palace”, became the nail in the coffin of the propaganda in bulk.

The building is, of course, completed. But the interior decoration is still at the zero level. More precisely, there is nothing there at all. Except for concrete ceilings, walls and floors. The cognitive dissonance that occurs thereafter is difficult to describe.

What then was Navalny filming if the palace was still at this stage of unfinished construction?

Where are the insanely expensive interiors with Italian furniture, which supposedly went to the welfare of the Russian people?

Even the satellite Google maps of Cape Idokopas confirm that the residence, even when viewed from above, is far from completion.

All this would be very funny if it were not very sad.

Sabotage was, is and will be


Fake story with Putin's "palace", which has gained more than 110 million views on YouTube, this, unfortunately, is not the only episode of purposeful sabotage.

With a certain degree of certainty, we can call last year's poisoning of Navalny itself a part of this large-scale plan to swing the situation in Russia. Almost to death a well-known oppositionist, in order to provoke a protest both inside the country and outside.

An excellent plan - one can only guess whether Navalny himself was initiated into it or not knowing whether he played the role of a sacred victim?

All possible media resources were connected to the operation to overthrow the state system in Russia by the hands of minors.

On TikTok, by January 23, thousands of unknown bloggers are entering the battle, urging users to “walk”. In just a few days, views of hashtags # bulk, # rallies, # palace Putin reach more than one billion.

YouTube, in general, intersperses views of harmless videos with very ambiguous content about the power dictatorship and rampant corruption in Russia. With video hosting, I must say, an interesting story happened. According to Igor Ashmanov, president of Kribrum, a company that monitors and analyzes social networks, YouTube boosted Putin's Palace additional millions of views.

And the Anti-Corruption Foundation itself has gone wild.

Navalny's press secretary, Kira Yarmysh, has published internal account statistics regarding "Putin's Palace." It turned out that even with 50 million, the total viewing time did not exceed 17,5 million hours. Not all users were able to master the entire film. On average, viewers spent only half an hour on a two-hour video.

Nevertheless, social networks have fulfilled their role. And they took to the streets of Russian cities ... 0,05% of the country's population!

And this is in the best variant of counting for the protesters. The efficiency is, frankly, not the most impressive.

But further sabotage and provocations will follow. Visualization technologies are actively developing, which, as we see from the German film, are used very well in the West.

In particular, the Deepfake technology, which allows you to create a digital copy of any person, make him speak from the screen and do whatever he wants, can be especially dangerous. What will the exalted teenagers say when they see Vladimir Putin on their smartphone screen, leaving the residence on Cape Idokopas? Is this the long-awaited proof?

The fiasco of Navalny's palace coup was partly a consequence of the technological imperfection of Western technology.

But time does not stand still.

And it is far from on our side.
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  1. +21
    10 February 2021 11: 04
    Nothing is over, there will be a continuation, and more than one.
    1. -12
      10 February 2021 11: 09
      Another "stop the thief" performed by thimblers. For everyone who watched the original video, the nonsense of the "guardians" is obvious (an eagle on the gate, like the Hermitage, the beginning of the fragment at 48:40).

      1. +1
        10 February 2021 11: 27
        Quote: lexus
        Another "stop the thief" performed by thimblers.

        And if you watch Navalny's videos, then only by ear, with your eyes closed. Then all the worthlessness of this person becomes audible. And you can't look with your eyes, because he uses black rhetoric. These constant flickering of the hands drive the viewer into a trance. This is akin to hypnosis, under which the viewer becomes completely controllable. Young people are especially susceptible. There is no life experience and psychological barriers are very weak.
        1. -17
          10 February 2021 11: 34
          Not to look, but to condemn, it is, of course, easier. Nevertheless, there are things that cannot be washed off. About manipulation - it's just about the "zombie" and the pose of the "official" media.
          1. +7
            10 February 2021 11: 36
            Quote: lexus
            Not to look, but to condemn, it is, of course, easier. Nevertheless, there are things that cannot be washed off. About manipulation - it's just about the "zombie" and the pose of the "official" media.

            Have you heard of NLP? The most persistent and those obey talented manipulators.
            1. -9
              10 February 2021 11: 46
              Stop watching / listening to "evening ..." and other "blessed bullshit", start thinking with your head, and everything will pass. The library photo, by the way, is also fake - there is no such thing in Navalny's investigation. The "deniers" have already outdone Goebbels.
              1. +2
                10 February 2021 12: 13
                Quote: lexus
                bullshit
                This is your profession. The deniers of the deniers of Goebbels have not outdone: you are his mediocre students.
                1. +25
                  10 February 2021 12: 43
                  Quote: sniperino
                  The deniers of the deniers of Goebbels did not outdid

                  Can't catch you laughing


                  How are the May decrees doing? Where is the implementation of the 2020 program?
                  1. +3
                    10 February 2021 13: 50
                    Quote: Silvestr

                    How are the May decrees doing? Where is the implementation of the 2020 program?

                    It is useless for Zaputins to ask questions, especially if they require memory, logic, and common sense.
                    1. +6
                      10 February 2021 14: 08
                      I would also ask: "Let someone tell you what achievements have taken place in our country, let's say, over the last 5 years, under the strict guidance of Vladimir Putin." I, besides, "Do not let go" and "Punish", I can not remember anything else.
                      1. +1
                        10 February 2021 14: 19
                        Progress? There are continuous "breakthroughs", however, not where planned.
                      2. 0
                        10 February 2021 14: 25
                        I'm serious. I'm really trying to remember something good from the last 5-10 years and nothing. Nothing at all, complete zero !!! Except for palaces and yachts.
                      3. -8
                        10 February 2021 14: 41
                        Quote: DwellerNet
                        Nothing at all, complete zero !!!

                        It is not surprising - the results of "attempts" and "hollow" on the stumps are the same.
                      4. +1
                        10 February 2021 14: 42
                        Quote: DwellerNet
                        I'm serious. I'm really trying to remember something good from the last 5-10 years and nothing. Nothing at all, complete zero !!! Except for palaces and yachts.

                        That would be more sensible people .. who do not react to dust, but to facts .. He had achievements in the first term. There was no further. He began beautifully, but with each new term he led an increasingly anti-popular policy.
                      5. -3
                        10 February 2021 14: 58
                        And what were the achievements in the first term? I don’t remember anything other than ending the war in Chechnya. Yes, I put things in order after Yeltsin. But he put things in order only in order to calmly build his own vertical of power, and not for the development of the country.
                      6. -2
                        10 February 2021 15: 00
                        Quote: DwellerNet
                        Yes, I put things in order after Yeltsin.

                        These were the achievements. With Chechnya, the achievement is dubious ... although then it seemed also an achievement.
                        But he put things in order only in order to calmly build his own vertical of power, and not for the development of the country.

                        Unfortunately, I began to guess about it only when he put Dimona in his place. hi
                      7. +4
                        10 February 2021 15: 13
                        I'll tell you more. In the 90s, my mother, with a group of initiative comrades, opened a rehabilitation center for disabled children. For these purposes, an old kindergarten was allocated, funding came from the federal budget. Special programs and simulators for rehabilitation came from Europe free of charge. There were even simulators for the rehabilitation of astronauts, after prolonged exposure to zero gravity, naturally written off. Speech therapists, physiotherapy specialists, teachers, massage therapists, etc. worked there.
                        All of this was destroyed about 10 years ago.
                      8. +1
                        10 February 2021 17: 13
                        Quote: DwellerNet
                        Nothing at all, complete zero !!

                        You are very wrong. There is a result, but it is with a minus sign. The age has been raised, VAT is also raised, the population minus, prices are growing faster than official inflation.
                      9. +2
                        11 February 2021 18: 14
                        Have you raised your 5 children with whom?
                      10. +1
                        11 February 2021 19: 13
                        Quote: clerk
                        Have you raised your 5 children with whom?

                        Do you know what the birth rate was under the tsar?
                      11. +3
                        11 February 2021 20: 32
                        Yes. 47/1000. With a mortality rate of 30/1000. Does it have anything to do with the discussion?
                      12. 0
                        11 February 2021 21: 28
                        Quote: clerk
                        Does it have anything to do with the discussion?

                        Such that under the king more than 5 children were born, but this does not mean that the king contributed to this. wink
                        PS It is pleasant to communicate with an intelligent opponent (although the defense of destructive power does not do you credit). Recently, I counted as many as three consecutive zaputintsy capable of building a logical chain (albeit dodging aside in inconvenient topics) Have you brought up heavy artillery in the troll chat? wassat
                      13. +6
                        11 February 2021 22: 43
                        1) Well then, complete the logical chain that at the present time the birth rate does not depend on the standard of living and admit that demographic claims to the current government are a gross falsification. 2) it is nice to see that the elementary logic and relatively common sense of a casual passer-by makes the extras of the commune-liberda either beat hysterically or run away, minus them on the sly. Very few (like you) are capable of adequate discussion. hi
                      14. 0
                        12 February 2021 07: 45
                        Quote: clerk
                        that demographic claims to the current government are a gross manipulation.

                        It is immediately obvious that you have not read the Ost plan. It contains a set of measures leading to a decrease in the birth rate with a low standard of living.
                        So it doesn't smell like fraud here. The government declaratively supports the birth rate, no more. The real steps only appeared last year, when the extinction became too visible. But this year, social spending in the budget was cut, and again they sang a song about the need for migrants.
                        Quote: clerk
                        the relatively common sense of a casual passer-by makes the communal-liberda extras

                        I don’t understand, did you christen me or yourself as a casual passer-by? belay And the communists were mixed with liberda in vain, liberda is in power. And Navalny is a representative of another liberda clan.
                        Now the country will be saved only by the change of the system, and the communists are the only ones who offer it. And I, a man of monarchical views, support them, because they are the only force capable of resetting. hi
                      15. +3
                        12 February 2021 08: 32
                        1) Don't worry - yourself. I am so amused: wink 2) 2) The current non-systemic commies on ideas are even worse than liberda. 3) That is why you arouse my interest - how can an adequate and reasonable person support obvious delirium, the implementation of which will finish off the country.
                      16. +3
                        12 February 2021 08: 34
                        Have they already implemented the Ost Plan in Western Europe and Japan? The worst of all is in Catholic Italy and Japan
                      17. -2
                        12 February 2021 09: 06
                        Quote: clerk
                        Have they already implemented the Ost Plan in Western Europe and Japan?

                        And the communists do not see this point-blank.
                      18. +1
                        12 February 2021 21: 36
                        Yes, the film's American-German-Navalnensky is a shitty rude thing. Although what am I talking about? After all, a third of the local public proves that no, the true truth, and a third pretended that this is nonsense and ardently discusses the perniciousness of the country's leadership of the alleged owner of the palace ... As always and in almost every topic lol
                      19. 0
                        12 February 2021 09: 19
                        You Ingvar live in a country where the mortality rate is already much higher than the Russian one, but you are skillfully lying.
                      20. +1
                        10 February 2021 18: 07
                        It's good in what direction science medicine defense nuclear industry and so on, so much has been done there in 10 years - "In addition to palaces and yachts" Do you consider private life or the country as a whole?
                      21. -5
                        10 February 2021 20: 33
                        Quote: Vadim237
                        It's good in which direction science medicine defense nuclear industry, etc., so a lot of things have been done there in 10 years

                        So not communists, that's the trouble.
                      22. 0
                        11 February 2021 18: 13
                        State your criterion for "good" and you will be given a clear answer.
                      23. +8
                        10 February 2021 15: 22
                        There are figures here who shout that everything is developing and growing ... go to other articles ... they are downright obsessed with Soloviev's vile propaganda ... I can somehow understand them if they are paid for it. Well, if of their own free will, then their deeds are completely sad)
                      24. +4
                        10 February 2021 18: 10
                        Those who do not do anything and are not interested will always be bad - whining will not help matters.
                      25. +1
                        12 February 2021 08: 08
                        Quote: Yaroslavsky
                        Well, if of their own free will, then their deeds are completely sad)

                        Here's a splendid psychological analysis.

                        It is called "Criticism Syndrome"
                        https://www.b17.ru/article/287277/

                        "And remember: criticism destroys, and praise inspires and elevates!"
                      26. -1
                        12 February 2021 09: 59
                        Whom should I, if you please, praise?) Those who have been robbing my Motherland for 30 years in a row? Those who are engaged in personal enrichment and the people consider it to be oil?) Would you like to praise these people?)
                      27. -1
                        10 February 2021 15: 45
                        Quote: DwellerNet
                        I would also ask: "Let someone tell you what achievements have happened in our country, let's say, over the last 5 years.

                        https://sdelanounas.ru/
                      28. +10
                        10 February 2021 17: 16
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        https://sdelanounas.ru/

                        Needless to say, they have already been caught making a presentation at a Russian pharmaceutical plant, which turned out to be a branch of an American company. laughing
                      29. +1
                        10 February 2021 18: 01
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        It is not worth referring to this, they have already been caught making presentations by a Russian pharmaceutical plant, which

                        That is, all the other facts are confirmed? And what kind of plant is this, in more detail?
                      30. +6
                        10 February 2021 18: 20
                        Caught in a lie shouldn't believe the rest. And the achievements of nano, compared with dozens of destroyed factories.
                        Abbott plant.
                      31. +1
                        10 February 2021 20: 28
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Abbott plant.

                        Is that something
                        A new line was launched at the Veropharm plant in the Vladimir region
                        https://sdelanounas.ru/blogs/125388/

                        So there is nothing to hide
                        Veropharm is one of the leading Russian manufacturers of pharmaceuticals and medical products. The company specializes in the production of affordable high-quality drugs in such areas of medicine as oncology, women's health, gastroenterology, infectious diseases, dermatology and neurology, as well as the production of medical plasters. In 2014, Veropharm entered the structure of the American company Abbott.

                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Caught in a lie shouldn't believe the rest.

                        You shouldn't be trusted.
                      32. +3
                        10 February 2021 21: 04
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        You shouldn't be trusted.

                        Of course, Ave Putin! good
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        In 2014, Veropharm entered the structure of the American company Abbott.

                        You can explain to your wife that you are entering your ...... enterprise into the ...... structure of another ...... company? bully
                      33. -6
                        10 February 2021 22: 54
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Of course, Ave Putin!

                        Ave.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        You can explain to your wife

                        Are you having problems with your wife? Well, I don’t think that I or Putin have anything to do with this.
                        However, you lied again when you accused the site "Made by Us" of deception. It is a fact.
                      34. +5
                        11 February 2021 08: 24
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Are you having problems with your wife?

                        No, my wife is 16 years younger, and I'm still doing it! bully It's just that examples on a personal, everyday level reach faster. By the way, you never answered.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        However, you lied again when you accused the site "Made by Us" of deception. It is a fact.

                        Have you turned black to white again?
                      35. -5
                        11 February 2021 08: 42
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        No, my wife is 16 years younger, and I'm still doing it! bully Simple examples

                        Talk about your hidden problems and complexes.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Have you turned black to white again?

                        That is, they lied, but the lies were revealed.
                      36. +3
                        11 February 2021 10: 05
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Talk about your hidden problems and complexes.
                        Yes, yes, of course! I'm all troubled and notorious! wassat
                        Again, you ignore the essence of the question. Like all zaputins.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That is, they lied, but the lies were revealed.

                        You and your site are lying, calling a branch of an American company a Russian enterprise.
                      37. -1
                        11 February 2021 10: 46
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Again, you ignore the essence of the question.

                        The fact that you fell for lies is not a question, but a fact.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        You are lying, and your site, calling

                        Where is he lying? Everything is said honestly and openly, but you are lying.
                      38. -1
                        11 February 2021 18: 17
                        Name a politician who has never been caught lying.
                      39. +3
                        11 February 2021 21: 07
                        And our Caesar was once caught on a lie? One single time?
                      40. -2
                        11 February 2021 22: 52
                        Within one presidential term? Examples in the studio.
                      41. +3
                        12 February 2021 18: 12
                        Oh, does it mean that one giant lie does not count in one term? Enough for you, Eugene. Tea, you don't live on Mars.
                      42. -1
                        12 February 2021 18: 47
                        Examples in the studio!
                      43. -1
                        11 February 2021 22: 47
                        Bulk for example!
                      44. -2
                        11 February 2021 22: 50
                        Yes, the Lord is with you - his film about "Putin's palace" is almost a complete lie
                      45. 0
                        14 February 2021 14: 05
                        Prove that it's a lie! Say that there is no palace, there are no oligarchs, there is no sale for the mound of national treasure, from the profits of the people only advertising "Gazprom is a national treasure!" And where is all the money, who has it? Tell me poor!
                      46. 0
                        14 February 2021 14: 24
                        I'll tell you well, but a little later. Before a story that is more understandable to you, you first need to find out your education - what you are able to understand and assimilate. Tell the people - have you finished 7th grade or not yet?
                      47. -2
                        10 February 2021 18: 12
                        The equipment works for the Russian market, the equipment is delivered to Russia by the Russian specialists themselves - so what is the complaint about the branches around the world are working and nothing.
                      48. +4
                        10 February 2021 18: 38
                        Vadim, would you agree to live with your wife if she worked part-time on the panel? And what, after all, she will bring money home!
                        I am not trying to offend you or your wife, this is just an example.
                        But for me it is offensive when someone tries to present branches and screwdriver production as the norm in a country that was the first in the world in terms of scientific and technological progress.
                      49. -5
                        10 February 2021 20: 30
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        But for me it is offensive when someone tries to present branches and screwdriver production as the norm in a country that was the first in the world in terms of scientific and technological progress.

                        Truth? I remember how in this country they looked at products made in the same USA. Any success of "this country" infuriates you.
                      50. +9
                        10 February 2021 21: 06
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        I remember how in this country they looked at products made in the same USA

                        I do not deny that we were bought in the late 80s for candy wrappers. Now we have seen the light. And you have received your sight, but for some reason urge you to close your eyes again.
                      51. -9
                        10 February 2021 22: 56
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        I do not deny that we were bought in the late 80s for candy wrappers.

                        Truth? But I remember with what eyes in the USSR they looked at computers made there. Do you understand the role of computerization? And much more was not candy wrappers.
                      52. +8
                        10 February 2021 21: 44
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Vadim, would you agree to live with your wife if she worked part-time on the panel? And what, after all, she will bring money home!
                        I am not trying to offend you or your wife, this is just an example.
                        But for me it is offensive when someone tries to present branches and screwdriver production as the norm in a country that was the first in the world in terms of scientific and technological progress.

                        Communist China has dragged a fucking bunch of manufacturing facilities from the US into its territory and is not steaming. Moreover, in the event of the arrest of the Chinese babos, these assets will become worthy compensation, which allows the Chinese communists to quite calmly hold the American horse by the bridle. with the move of production to Chinese territory, they became mutually dependent.
                      53. +8
                        10 February 2021 21: 58
                        Quote: Nyrobsky
                        their dependence was mutual.

                        Oh yes, I don’t argue. But in our case, the situation is completely different. For China, opposite the official production, was building the same plant, but with a different name, and with state support. And now they have a full production cycle, while we still have the same banal screwdriver. request
                      54. +5
                        10 February 2021 22: 09
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Quote: Nyrobsky
                        their dependence was mutual.

                        Oh yes, I don’t argue. But in our case, the situation is completely different. For China, opposite the official production, was building the same plant, but with a different name, and with state support. And now they have a full production cycle, while we still have the same banal screwdriver. request

                        Reasonably. Yes However, it should be noted that until a certain moment our liberota was not soared by the development of its industrial potential, because it hoped that a "friendly" foreign country would sell us everything that we need ", and if we build something, then through a foreign investor. When the moment of the "sanction fig" came, the realization came that many more than a little bit lacked their industrial potential, and the investor, frightened by the punishment for ignoring the "sanction fig", was in no hurry to invest, had to get involved in the work and that Then import substitution. ”A quarter of a century was lost in order to understand that“ abroad will not help. ”China initially went the other way, and the right one.
                      55. +8
                        11 February 2021 02: 14
                        China did not have its own production, only human resources, and therefore dragged the production. In the USSR, there was a huge production base that was safely "taken away." And today we are proud that we are building pharmaceutical factories (American). This is a dubious achievement.
                      56. -3
                        11 February 2021 00: 21
                        The arguments are over - let's go insults? It is insults. Is your daughter (son) on the panel okay? And in your words - I am not trying to offend either you or your children, this is just an example. Well, you are under ...
                      57. +9
                        11 February 2021 08: 18
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        The arguments are over - let's go insults

                        Everywhere the clause "if only". Nobody directly insults a person.
                        Unlike some zaputintsy, who directly insulted my family.
                        And yes, in life there is such a possibility that the daughter will be in such a position, but this probability of this is negligible.
                        Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
                        Well, you are under ...

                        And you are blind.
                      58. -5
                        11 February 2021 16: 45
                        Vadim, would you agree to live with your wife if she worked part-time on the panel? This is generally why, we are not talking about a woman about a factory. "But for me it is insulting when someone tries to present branches and screwdriver production as the norm in a country that was the first in the world in terms of scientific and technological progress." The market is free on it, one state does not steer investors what they want and will build and cooperate with those countries in these areas the plant works in Russia the products are sold in Russia are exported on it they work and they deduct taxes to the budget and yes purely screwdriver production with foreign participation in Russia is not.
                        "Was the first in the world in scientific and technological progress" - Probably only in a parallel universe, even normal ceramic crowns could not be made in the civil sector, the USSR had almost no progressive scientific developments - high-precision machine tools and machining centers were purchased in the west.
                      59. -2
                        11 February 2021 18: 39
                        Your problem is that you do not want to admit that after the flourishing of Soviet science and technology in the 50s and 70s, there were stagnant 80s in Soviet science, catastrophic 90s and no 200s. And strive to compare current modest successes not with yesterday, but with the heyday of half a century ago. What is nonsense. It's like blaming a former athlete who came out of a coma yesterday that he cannot immediately repeat the records of his youth.
                      60. +4
                        11 February 2021 19: 10
                        Quote: clerk
                        It's like blaming a former athlete who came out of a coma yesterday that he cannot immediately repeat the records of his youth.

                        And how many more years must pass? 20 has already passed. Don't you think that the patient is being deliberately kept in this state? After all, Stalin proved that a breakthrough is possible in a shorter time frame. Like Japan and Germany after the war, Singapore, China. Not? How many years do you need?
                      61. -4
                        11 February 2021 19: 27
                        Again you are comparing the incomparable. The IVS had cheap labor and a coercive apparatus. Germany has just reached its pre-war power. Japan has been stagnating for 40 years now and there is no way to see China started its journey half a century ago. .And how many years? Give the State 20 years of peace (!), Internal (!!) and external (!!!), and you will not recognize the current Russia. "(C) Compare 2000 and 2020 for any indicator.
                      62. +3
                        11 February 2021 20: 05
                        Quote: clerk
                        Give the State 20 years of peace (!), Internal (!!) and external (!!!), and you will not recognize the current Russia. "

                        Logically, there should be slow growth, for which you are asking for time. In fact, regression, and it primarily concerns the social segment of people's lives.
                        Quote: clerk
                        ) Compare 2000 and 2020 for any indicator

                        At the price of oil? By the number of beds per capita? By the retirement age bar?
                      63. -2
                        11 February 2021 20: 30
                        In terms of fertility, life expectancy, GDP in PPP per capita (as a percentage of the same Germany), in terms of the average wage in dollars, even without PPP. By the way, you can also on the price of oil, taking into account the inflation of the dollar for 20 years.
                      64. +3
                        11 February 2021 21: 21
                        Quote: clerk
                        By birth rate

                        Lying. Since 2000, the population of Russia has not increased, despite the fact that Russian citizenship was handed out to everyone.
                        Life expectancy must be compared in the dynamics of growth, and in comparison with the dynamics in developed countries.
                        There is no need for oil at all - just look at the graphs of oil prices from 91g, and the reason for all Putin's "achievements" becomes immediately clear. laughing
                      65. -3
                        11 February 2021 21: 59
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        and in comparison with the dynamics in developed countries

                        The Ministry of Health said that the average life expectancy in the Russian Federation reached a historical maximum in 2019 - 73,4 years.
                        The best indicator of life expectancy in the RSFSR was recorded in 1986-1987, when it first passed the mark of 70 years (70,13 years).
                        https://tass.ru/info/8297145
                      66. +2
                        12 February 2021 07: 48
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        The Ministry of Health said that the average life expectancy in the Russian Federation reached a historical maximum in 2019 - 73,4 years.

                        You'd better compare it with the times of Catherine! lol
                        I'm talking about population growth.
                      67. -2
                        12 February 2021 08: 23
                        Reducing the rate of decline is also an achievement.
                      68. -3
                        12 February 2021 09: 09
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        You'd better compare it with the times of Catherine!

                        That is, the fact that now life expectancy is longer than in the USSR cannot be disputed.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        I'm talking about population growth.

                        Quote: clerk
                        Birth / death rate per 1000: in 2000 - 8,7 / 15,3; in 2019 - 12,8 / 13,0. At the same time, the 47% increase in the birth rate cannot be attributed to Muslims alone.
                      69. -1
                        11 February 2021 22: 28
                        1) Birth / death rate per 1000: in 2000 - 8,7 / 15,3; in 2019 - 12,8 / 13,0. At the same time, the 47% increase in the birth rate cannot be attributed to Muslims alone. 2) Choose a country - I will give the data in comparison with Russia. 3) calculate the current oil price in 1991 prices
                      70. +2
                        12 February 2021 07: 54
                        Have you been to Russian schools for a long time? The heads of my children's classmates darken every year. And yet the population is still decreasing.
                        For oil - compare the average oil price with 2000, and 20 years earlier.
                      71. -2
                        12 February 2021 08: 21
                        1) I understand what you are talking about, but the question arises - why the economic conditions in Russia do not affect the reproduction of "dark-headed"? 2) Compare. Adjusted for inflation over 20 years. Better to take the average for each year.
                      72. +3
                        12 February 2021 08: 26
                        Quote: clerk
                        why economic conditions in Russia do not affect the reproduction of "dark-headed

                        The mentality is not yet formatted. But it will change, believe me. 20-30 years will deform them too.
                        The USSR produced everything by itself, oil revenues came as a bonus, and not the main source of income. We will not discuss the reasons for the collapse in relation to oil, it has been chewed many times.
                      73. -2
                        12 February 2021 08: 58
                        ... The mentality is not yet formatted. But it will change, believe me. 20-30 years will deform them too.
                        ... Exactly! But do you agree that if they got to Germany or Finland, their mentality in terms of demographics would change as well, despite the difference in living standards with Russia?
                      74. -3
                        12 February 2021 09: 10
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        The mentality is not yet formatted. But it will change, believe me. 20-30 years will deform them too.

                        That is, it was the USSR that formatted the Russians?
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        USSR produced everything by itself

                        The question is quality.
                      75. -3
                        11 February 2021 11: 20
                        So what? Do Americans work there? Are taxes deducted in the USA? Have you heard anything about investments and a positive investment climate?
                      76. -3
                        11 February 2021 13: 11
                        Quote: KOMBAT KOMISSAR
                        So what?

                        A reason to shout that everything is gone.
                      77. 0
                        13 February 2021 13: 20
                        You, dear Ingvar, would learn to use a text editor before being clever all over the country. ",,, presentation ...".
                      78. -3
                        11 February 2021 11: 00
                        It feels like a bunch of shit-gunners who scream that everything is bad live in sewer wells closed with cast-iron hatches. They do not see anything positive from their abodes. Correctly, they look at the site "MADE WITH US" - it's all the same as looking at the devil, at least they will go blind, maximum will burn out. I have been living in the Kaliningrad region since 1974, over the past 20 years there have been so many positive changes here that there have not been any during the entire Soviet regime. You just need to see the positive, and these wretched inhabitants of the dungeons get out of their wells and take off their dark glasses. (It feels like they are writing nasty things from an unfinished 404)
                      79. -5
                        11 February 2021 13: 13
                        Quote: KOMBAT KOMISSAR
                        (It feels like nasty things are written from unfinished 404

                        There are some. As for the communists, even if Putin or someone else literally builds heaven on earth, they will still scream that everything is bad, because the main thing is the Idea, and the country and the people do not care.
                      80. +3
                        11 February 2021 20: 02
                        Be rude, kid. You and in front of you no one dares to - in their own "fragrant".
                      81. 0
                        14 February 2021 14: 08
                        Since the times of the USSR, Westerners have been feeding you at the expense of the internal regions, only "how many wolves you feed, he looks into the forest" (this is about the Balts) if your Kaliningrad lives well, this does not mean that the rest of the country's population also lives well.
                      82. -1
                        11 February 2021 23: 14
                        They did not allow bulk and other Judas to destroy the country, this is already an achievement, and given how much resources Fashington and his hangers-on are investing in this, this is a very good achievement.
                      83. -4
                        11 February 2021 07: 54
                        I would also ask: "Let someone tell you what achievements have taken place in our country, let's say, over the last 5 years, under the strict guidance of Vladimir Putin."


                        Look less negative from Provalnoye like him. Visit the Time Forward YouTube channel to help you. How many articles about modern weapons in Russia are also not an indicator for VO? Well, as an example, in 2020, agricultural equipment worth 16 billion was exported abroad. dollars more than defense industry, but why should you tell you that Lexus, I will svarog all one.
                      84. +1
                        11 February 2021 12: 43
                        How many articles about modern weapons in Russia are also not an indicator for VO?

                        Is this such a joke ??
                        Of the achievements of Putin-the number of articles about weapons ??
                        Well, as an example, in 2020, agricultural equipment worth 16 billion was exported abroad.
                        Yes, even for 100500 billion .. Stop pretending to be a fool !!
                        If the price in the store has gone up for goods - that's what a person cares about .. And the prices go up and up !! There are no less articles about this in VO ..

                        Shl .. the person cites the most complete nonsense as examples, and also writes to others - but why tell you .. It is necessary to tell about achievements !! And not any hat ..
                      85. -4
                        11 February 2021 13: 14
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        Is this such a joke ??

                        These are facts.
                        Quote: Roman070280
                        If the price in the store has increased for goods - this is the person who worries.

                        This is called inflation and it was not Putin who invented it.
                      86. 0
                        13 February 2021 13: 34
                        No need to juggle and pretend to be a fool. Or are there not enough arguments?
                    2. +3
                      10 February 2021 14: 38
                      Quote: Svarog
                      It is useless for Zaputins to ask questions, especially if they require memory, logic, and common sense.

                      zaputintsy, anti-Putinists, navalnyata ..... and who is for Russia?
                      Putintians call to live in the country from which the pipes flow, and there are specialists in the construction of bridges and nuclear power plants abroad. The anti-Putinists are shouting that this is wrong. Bulk shouts that everyone around is thieves ... And where is the country that showed the world economic and military growth under Stalin? Where is the leader capable of repeating this?
                      1. +7
                        10 February 2021 15: 03
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        And where is the country that showed the world economic and military growth under Stalin? Where is the leader able to repeat this?

                        Under Putin, there will be no such leaders, unfortunately ... they will simply be jailed or beaten down. Platoshkin, as an example.
                      2. +8
                        10 February 2021 15: 24
                        already they want to keep Bondarenko out of their minds with all their might, because they got scared ... apparently there is something to fear for, there is ...
                      3. +9
                        10 February 2021 15: 25
                        Quote: Yaroslavsky
                        already they want to keep Bondarenko out of their minds with all their might, because they got scared ... apparently there is something to fear for, there is ...

                        Yes, they exterminate everyone who gets in the way ..
                      4. +9
                        10 February 2021 15: 30
                        Hence the question ... if they do this, then they really stand guard over their capital, and everything else does not bother them ... Platoshkin N.N., Bondarenko N.N. ... they will just clean them up ... and Navalny they have been sticking out for a long time and on purpose in order to distract (and successfully by the way) a large segment of the population, from the real leaders of the opposition to this thieves' government.
                      5. +10
                        10 February 2021 15: 31
                        Quote: Yaroslavsky
                        Hence the question ... if they do this, then they really stand guard over their capital, and everything else does not bother them ... Platoshkin N.N., Bondarenko N.N. ... they will just clean them up ... and Navalny they have been sticking out for a long time and on purpose in order to distract (and successfully by the way) a large segment of the population, from the real leaders of the opposition to this thieves' government.

                        In my opinion, it is .. For them, the real danger is represented by the communists and socialists .. (not those who dug themselves in the thought for life .. or rather, not all of those)
                      6. +6
                        10 February 2021 15: 36
                        yes, that's right, and Navalny is their project for the most part, which is tainted with Western special services, communication with non-handshake oppositionists, then allegedly calls for the children to leave and that's it ... they did it, though the protest was anti-government, but was skillfully reformatted in the exit of children. And the man in the street took a bite ... he screeches an agent, the west, children ... the Kremlin succeeded ...
                      7. -9
                        10 February 2021 18: 21
                        Who are Platoshkin and Bondarenko - where did they show themselves as high-quality managers, not in words but in deeds, or tryndezh on YouTube channels is their quality indicator of work?
                      8. +6
                        10 February 2021 19: 09
                        Quote: Vadim237
                        Who are Platoshkin and Bondarenko - where did they show themselves as high-quality managers, not in words but in deeds, or tryndezh on YouTube channels is their quality indicator of work?

                        Putin has already shown himself in deed..for 20 years of government..finger on the finger..only he spawned billionaires and provided his own wives..well, of course he didn’t forget about himself..but what for people? Tell me Vadim, what has been done for people? Why are we, Russian people, becoming impoverished and dying out every year? At 500 tons a year Vadim .. do you have a conscience? can you imagine how much it is?
                      9. -6
                        10 February 2021 20: 34
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Putin has already shown himself in deed..for 20 years of rule.

                        Life in the country has become much better, and not only for the oligarchs.
                      10. +5
                        10 February 2021 20: 44
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Putin has already shown himself in deed..for 20 years of rule.

                        Life in the country has become much better, and not only for the oligarchs.

                        Yeah, every year it's getting better straight .. Do you live in Russia? Usually, those who live in England and Germany like to push such things .. Even Rosstat doesn’t need you .. doesn’t penetrate anything ..
                      11. -8
                        10 February 2021 20: 47
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Yeah, every year it's getting better straight .. Do you live in Russia?

                        In Russia I also work as an engineer.
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Usually those who live in England and Germany like to push such things.

                        An outdated training manual - your protest colleagues from the liberal camp are shouting the same thing as you.
                      12. +10
                        10 February 2021 20: 50
                        Quote: Dart2027

                        In Russia I also work as an engineer.

                        Engineer and engineer differ ... I have an acquaintance who received 200 tons ... a month ... he worked in Tatneft ... but there is one who receives 27 tons .. You can see from the first ones ..
                      13. -7
                        10 February 2021 22: 50
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Engineer to engineer strife

                        But what about the mantra that everything is destroyed, plundered and only oligarchs live?
                        Quote: Svarog
                        I received 200 tons ... a month ... I worked in Tatneft ... but there is, who receives 27 tons

                        I have nothing to do with oil.
                      14. +3
                        11 February 2021 08: 04
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        An outdated training manual - your protest colleagues from the liberal camp are shouting the same thing as you.

                        Svarog from the liberal camp ??? wassat belay fool seems to be on the site for a long time smile and write such nonsense. if you are an engineer, work in your specialty and are happy with life, then you work in a closed corporation, where, in addition to talent, you also need luck to get there. In the area where I live, engineers are the least demanded specialty. In the system built by Putin, there is no system of social lifts even through the army, the interests of big business do not allow. This not normal.
                      15. -1
                        11 February 2021 08: 28
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        Svarog from the liberal camp ???

                        Read the discussion carefully. He's writing
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Usually those who live in England and Germany like to push such things.
                        These are just the same liberal oppositionists
                        To this I also answer.
                        If you haven't noticed, since the beginning of the riots, the communists and liberals have merged in a touching alliance against Putin, so the liberals are his colleagues, although not a liberal myself, and I know it.
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        if you are an engineer, you work in your specialty and are happy with life, then you work in a closed corporation

                        People get there even without cronyism, recently several university graduates have come.
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        In the system built by Putin, there is no system of social lifts even through the army, the interests of big business do not allow.

                        The oligarchs are really interested in this. What kind of elevators do you need - to the minister? So it is very difficult to get into the elite in any system, and it will work out for one of the n-th number of applicants.
                      16. +1
                        13 February 2021 13: 42
                        Not true! After 34 years in the army (replaced 13 garrisons, from the Vologda region, through Siberia and N. Land to St. Petersburg), he worked for 15 years at a defense enterprise. He started as an engineer, graduated as Chief Designer. You need to plow and achieve results, then you will have social elevators.
                      17. +1
                        11 February 2021 17: 52
                        That is, you do not agree with Rosstat and the government that incomes have been falling for years and that the population is declining by hundreds of thousands a year?
                        Give refutations, arguments, you are not just ...
                      18. -3
                        11 February 2021 18: 46
                        Quote: Revival
                        that incomes have been falling for years

                        Judging by the fact that I see something around imperceptibly.
                        Quote: Revival
                        population is declining

                        It has been running since 1917. In the Republic of Ingushetia, the population grew by almost 50% over 20 years, and then the rate began to decline.
                      19. +2
                        11 February 2021 19: 01
                        That is, in this, the most important, question, do you recognize the helplessness of the top?
                      20. -3
                        11 February 2021 20: 43
                        Quote: Revival
                        That is, in this, the most important, issue, helplessness

                        Should Putin personally repair three children for every woman of childbearing age? I'm serious.
                      21. +2
                        11 February 2021 21: 15
                        No.
                        To provide a woman with the opportunity to stay at home with her children, without balancing on the brink of poverty, a huge part of the poor are simply families with more than one child.
                        Often the problem of childlessness, lack of own housing, salary, which at the birth of a child will become beggarly, and so on.
                      22. -1
                        11 February 2021 21: 56
                        Quote: Revival
                        Provide the opportunity for a woman to stay at home with her children, without balancing on the brink of poverty

                        Here are just problems with demography for the entire white race, and in very rich and prosperous countries. Change the record, we've discussed this a hundred times.
                      23. 0
                        12 February 2021 11: 56
                        So first, provide this richest and most prosperous, and then refer back and discuss whether it helped or not.
                        And that is a comfortable position, but it won't help anyway ..
                      24. -1
                        12 February 2021 14: 04
                        Quote: Revival
                        So first, provide this richest and most prosperous

                        That is, there is nothing to argue?
                        And in our country there are a lot of married people, quite prosperous by any measure, who do not want to have children.
                        Quote: Revival
                        And then a lycimeric comfortable position

                        I know the hypocrisy of all kinds of "regime fighters"
                      25. +1
                        12 February 2021 14: 37
                        You have no reason to say that this will not help, you have not provided anything yet, so that you can blame that it didn’t help, you just cover up helplessness and unwillingness.
                      26. -2
                        12 February 2021 14: 39
                        Quote: Revival
                        You have no reason to claim that this will not help, you have not provided anything yet

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        And in our country there are a lot of married people, quite prosperous by any measure, who do not want to have children.

                        Quote: Revival
                        just covering up helplessness and unwillingness

                        Yes, your helplessness and hypocrisy are covered with beautiful words.
                      27. +1
                        12 February 2021 22: 23
                        Are you an ordinary troll?
                        Always translate arrows instead of answering?
                        It looks a pity.
                        If in fact there is nothing to answer, can you just not write, or you can’t !?
                        It looks a pity if you only "parrot" in response ...
                      28. -2
                        13 February 2021 06: 54
                        Quote: Revival
                        Are you an ordinary troll?
                        Always translate arrows instead of answering?

                        Is it? I simply answer that your helplessness and hypocrisy are covered with beautiful words. And it is true.
                      29. +24
                        10 February 2021 20: 51
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Yeah, it's getting better every year ..

                        life has become more fun

                        A feast in time of plague, and after all it ...
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Outdated training manual.

                        it suits
                      30. -6
                        11 February 2021 08: 29
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        it suits

                        Of course, something new cannot be invented.
                      31. +3
                        11 February 2021 12: 11
                        I support, my classmate went to Finland in 2004, gave birth to children there, all with everything as they say) yelling that Putin is a cool president))) will watch the first channel there and yell) but God forbid here ... even stopped traveling in the summer .. .that's such a love for the homeland and the president ... from afar)
                      32. 0
                        11 February 2021 19: 56
                        The birth rate in 2019 in Finland and Germany is 9,4 / 1000, in Russia 12,8 / 1000, in Japan - 7,5 / 1000.
                      33. -1
                        12 February 2021 10: 01
                        Where did you send your fertility data?)
                      34. -1
                        12 February 2021 11: 28
                        To dispel fake hints about how wonderful it is to breed in sunny Finland and how bad it is in dark Russia
                      35. -1
                        12 February 2021 11: 57
                        No fakes, no hints ... this is your Kremlin tactics, everything is blurry to show and make fakes ... and I say bluntly, in dark Finland the standard of living is many times better than in the brightest Russia ... and this is a fact that is not subject to any no doubt ... what are you trying to bring some data on the birth rate, it's not even a fake, it's just agony and a circus) there is absolutely nothing to tell you) and it is generally not clear what they were brought to?)
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                      37. -2
                        12 February 2021 14: 26
                        Let’s do it, I’ll give you my numbers, and you give me your specific ones) Finca is in third place in the world in terms of the happiness index ... I won’t explain what this is, google ... and we are 64 ... the fourth in the world, the average pension is 1780 euros ... we have 242 euros ... what other figures can you give?) you muttered something about the birth rate ... yes, we have a mortality rate of minus 500 per year ... we are dying out .. what Do you also need numbers? I think everyone would be interested in how much you get for each comment from the authorities .. + 15 on the bill, right?)
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                      44. -1
                        11 February 2021 07: 31
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Life in the country has become much better, and not only for the oligarchs.

                        undoubted merit of Putin that Russia under him does not participate in major wars. Therefore, life has become better. The downside is that he relied on people with large capital. In the history of Russia, this was, examples of Ivan the Terrible,. However, Ivan the Terrible, having achieved power, executed many rich men (put them on a stake, hung them up), since they strongly impeded reforms. In Russia, a lot of capital is made on voucherisation and privatization, so Putin's support is rotten and not interested in reforms. Question: - What reforms are needed to ensure the growth of high-tech production without a revolution?
                      45. -5
                        11 February 2021 08: 35
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        The downside is that he relied on people with large capital. In the history of Russia, this was

                        This was and is throughout world history. The problem for Russia is that our elites had some kind of manic passion to become part of the West. Why did perestroika in China (and they were rebuilt, and this is a fact) followed a completely different path? Yes, because people rule there, who perfectly understand that only a strong China will provide their life and power, and without it they are nothing. Those who are ready to tear out competitors with their teeth always come to the very top, such is life and this is the only guarantee that the elites will not betray again, as it was twice.
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        In Russia, large capital is made on voucherisation and privatization

                        And what to do, take away and divide? Have already tried and in the end nothing good ended.
                      46. +1
                        11 February 2021 16: 55
                        Tell me Vadim, what has been done for people? All that he could and what the state had enough money for, the most important thing, he pulled Russia out of the ditch leading to the fate of present-day Moldova, for which thanks to him. And there are no rulers who had everything perfect. Why do we, Russian people, become poor and die out every year? I don't know why you are poor - I saw beggars everywhere in the late 90s and early 2000s, now I do not see beggars "We are dying out" - 500000 a year is not an indicator - in the 90s, 150000 more died than were born every month, and then you and all of yours are not visible then and could not be heard.
                      47. +6
                        10 February 2021 19: 17
                        and which of our current managers has proved to be "high-class managers, not in words but in deeds" please name the studio .. I hope not Chubais and Rogozin?
                      48. +2
                        11 February 2021 12: 07
                        Putin let the country go around the world, your cool manager is ... just like you, you are a blogger, he looks like a manager)
                      49. -5
                        11 February 2021 13: 15
                        Quote: Yaroslavsky
                        Putin let the country go around the world

                        I mean, poor people fly all over the world?
                      50. -2
                        11 February 2021 21: 01
                        My dear, people will bypass you, they say that they are wrong ... why stick and climb into a bottle all the time? Is it really that bad?)
                      51. -3
                        11 February 2021 21: 55
                        Quote: Yaroslavsky
                        My dear, people will bypass you, they say they are wrong

                        Your comment, too, with a minus, why stick all the time and climb into the bottle? is it so bad?
                      52. -11
                        10 February 2021 15: 46
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        And where is the country that showed the world economic and military growth under Stalin?

                        That is, that country could only live under Stalin? Note that I didn't say that.
                      53. +5
                        10 February 2021 17: 18
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That is, that country could only live under Stalin?

                        Have you forgotten how to read? It's about an economic breakthrough, not life. wink
                      54. -12
                        10 February 2021 17: 59
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        It's about an economic breakthrough, not life.

                        AND? This breakthrough was under Stalin, Stalin was gone - not a breakthrough, and then the country itself. These are facts.
                      55. +2
                        11 February 2021 09: 56
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        AND? This breakthrough was under Stalin, Stalin was gone - not a breakthrough, and then the country itself. These are facts.

                        it's not even about Stalin. Any ruler takes wealthy people for support, and Stalin took Ideology. Stalin did not have time to create a selection system for the Elite. The nomenclature was formed by itself on the basis of acquisitiveness and disguise as communist ideals. Outwardly, it looked like Dogma and the practice of religious worship. All the fresh people introduced by Stalin to the Central Committee in 1949 were eaten.
                      56. -3
                        11 February 2021 10: 48
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        any ruler takes wealthy people for support, and Stalin took Ideology. Stalin did not have time to create a selection system for the Elite.

                        The fact of the matter is that he physically could not create it. I am not a supporter of social Darwinism in relation to the whole society, but in matters of the formation of elites, he acts and will act - power in the country will always be taken by those who devour competitors. This is our nature.
                      57. +7
                        10 February 2021 17: 57
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That is, that country could only live under Stalin? Note that I didn't say that.

                        Lenin once said that we must use all the knowledge that mankind has developed.
                        Communist theory suffered greatly from the fact that theorists did not have good experts on animal behavioral responses. They did not take into account the change in a person during the transition from class to class, did not develop simple concepts of Communism, Socialism and the excess of the role of Energy over the class struggle. Stalin was the driver of development, he means more to Russia than Jesus Christ.
                      58. -9
                        10 February 2021 18: 11
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        Communist theory suffered greatly from the fact that theorists did not have good experts on animal behavioral responses. They did not take into account the change in a person during the transition from class to class, did not develop simple concepts of Communism, Socialism and the excess of the role of Energy over the class struggle.

                        To put it simply, communism is a utopia.
                      59. +2
                        10 February 2021 18: 56
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        To put it simply, communism is a utopia.

                        What is Communism?
                      60. -10
                        10 February 2021 20: 18
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        What is Communism?

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        communism is a utopia.
                      61. +1
                        11 February 2021 09: 49
                        Quote: Dart2027

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        communism is a utopia.

                        you are repeating ... smile I have come across the most understandable explanation of what communism is in Popov's book "Dialectics. The Way to Truth", you can master 30% of Popov's text, I respect you, you can refute - I will pray
                      62. -5
                        11 February 2021 10: 40
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        you are repeating ...

                        The boring science of biology says boringly that people remain human under any ideological system, and the realities of life say that they will never build communism.
                      63. +1
                        11 February 2021 10: 55
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        The boring science of biology says boringly that people remain human under any ideological system, and the realities of life say that they will never build communism.

                        you will take the trouble to give a definition of what Communism is and why should it be built ?, there is no definition, there is no subject, the conversation is pointless. Boring
                      64. -2
                        11 February 2021 13: 16
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        you take the trouble to define what is Communism

                        In political science and sociology:
                        Communism is a socio-economic formation based on public ownership of the means of production.
                        Communism (doctrine) is the general name for a number of doctrines that put forward the goal of the elimination of private property
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        and why should it be built

                        This is not for me, I do not believe in him.
                      65. +1
                        11 February 2021 13: 31
                        Quote: Dart2027

                        Communism (doctrine) is the general name for a number of doctrines that put forward the goal of the elimination of private property

                        smile I believe that there should be more private property, it just needs to be more evenly distributed, not by revolutions and wars, but by a progressive taxation scale. I don't believe in Communism either. but I believe that certain elements of Socialism - free education, medicine and social housing are necessary.
                        state ownership of the means of production itself does not represent anything bad. The prohibition of the private, is an attempt to "fair" distribution of the results of labor.
                        Initially, the project of Socialism implied that state enterprises would not compete but would work as planned, where the plan would be developed for them by leading scientists, therefore Socialism should have been free from the diseases of Capitalism - competition, crises ... The idea was not bad, only the top of the Party hated good scientists.
                        The hardest part about Socialism is the leaders and their team.
                      66. -2
                        11 February 2021 15: 05
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        but I believe that certain elements of Socialism

                        You see, everyone who thirsts for the Revolution does not need these separate elements, they only need the USSR2, and they will not agree for anything less. I know such people in life.
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        state ownership of the means of production itself does not represent anything bad

                        Will not work. It's not about scientists, just over time those who will be at the top will want not only power, but also wealth, and there will be perestroika2.
                      67. +2
                        11 February 2021 19: 47
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Will not work. It's not about scientists, just over time those who will be at the top will want not only power, but also wealth, and there will be perestroika2.

                        that's why Stalin is needed to create the USSR2 laughing fellow or the system of training and selection of such Stalins
                      68. -2
                        11 February 2021 20: 44
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        that's why Stalin is needed to create the USSR2

                        A system that depends on one person is not good for anything.
                      69. +1
                        11 February 2021 23: 15
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        A system that depends on one person is not good for anything.

                        can create a one-person cooking system? accident is an unidentified pattern ... There is a certain pattern of the emergence of leaders who change the political alignment. This is a defeat in the war. In the case of Stalin, this is his training in theological seminary, revolutionary activities, passion for Marxism.
                        Public consciousness (the consciousness of the average person) has a certain influence on the choice of the leader of the nation.
                        Why wait for a war in our age of information technology? Isn't it easier to create a school with strict control where children who risk their lives for the sake of others will go? Why this circus with a game of democracy?
                        If we do not create such a system, we will continue to exist at the expense of pipes and fossils. I understand that this is naive, but suggest something better. I'm not here to teach someone, I'm learning myself. From the point of view of a sociologist, gossip is a means of social protection, and so communication in forums is a way of developing public immunity to antisocial politics.
                      70. -1
                        11 February 2021 23: 26
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        can create a one-person cooking system?

                        In all countries, they do without any inventions, but the local elites understand the simple fact that they are elites only in their own country and their luxurious life depends on their country and their people. There is nothing better.
                      71. +1
                        11 February 2021 23: 32
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        There is nothing better.

                        our country is too big ... the military capabilities of the head of an oil company are commensurate with the capabilities of the prime minister of a small country. These are the opportunities they use for their own purposes and the problems are blamed on the people.
                        I would be grateful for your option for the development of Russia. what would you do as president today?
                      72. -1
                        12 February 2021 07: 32
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        our country is too big

                        Well, a large part of the country is poorly suited for living.
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        what would you do as president today

                        And the same as he.
                        Pension Reform?
                        I do not remember how many times this was discussed - in the 90s we got an almost zero birth rate, so now there is simply a lack of a working-age population.
                        Revisiting privatization?
                        Let's ditch the economy that has worked, albeit not ideally, and we will create anew for another 10 years, with all the delights of this process.
                        Different global projects in the spirit of the early USSR?
                        Sounds pretty, but there is a small detail. I'm wondering who of those who shout about Stalin's achievements are ready to work like under Stalin? Very few, I suppose.
                        Corruption?
                        They are fighting with her like that, just last year 12000 cases were opened.
                        Close to Putin himself?
                        Power is a team game and any ruler needs his own. Take Stalin - he had no irreplaceable. It's good? In theory, yes, and the communists are constantly shouting about it. But let's remember what happened after his death - everyone (exceptions at the level of static error) disowned him, and the country he created went downhill. Yes, the USSR could still issue achievements like space flights, but since 1953 it was on its way to its end. It's good?
                        A global idea?
                        Over time, it turns into a dogma and the principle "if the realities of life contradict the idea, so much the worse for realities" begins to operate. Those interested can see how this principle begins to work in the United States (feminism, LGBT, BLM). No, thanks.
                      73. +1
                        12 February 2021 07: 56
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        No, thanks.

                        Nevertheless thank you. Very detailed and understandable. I agree with almost everything.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Power is a team game and any ruler needs his own.
                        ... There are two forms of management - councils and commands. Tips for identifying problems exist all the time, and teams are made up of specialists at the time of solving these problems. If you look at Putin's entourage, you get the feeling that he has recruited those that are not needed anywhere else. And there is not a team style, and not advice, there is a pack with a rigid hierarchy. Putin buys his own people, this is outraged.
                        I agree that I am acting carefully and correctly. But I am in favor of additional taxes for the rich and protective duties.
                      74. -1
                        12 February 2021 09: 05
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        If you look at Putin's entourage, you get the feeling that he has recruited those that are not needed anywhere else.

                        Well that's the question. About Putin and his entourage is pouring as much dirt as was poured only on Nicholas 2, so it is rather difficult to assess reality. If we put aside the propaganda and look around, then the process is proceeding without dashing jerks, but without stopping.
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        But I am in favor of additional taxes for the rich and protective duties.

                        The question is which of these is real. For example, let's take ship diesel engines for corvettes. What they were going to buy in Germany seems to be bad, but remember how many times they broke down on the "Guarding"? So the question arises which is better? Most likely we will come to this, but when and in what form it is already the level of awareness of non-visitors to this site.
                      75. 0
                        27 February 2021 01: 33
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        All countries do without any inventions

                        in general, yes. everything has already been invented. the rich finance politicians to defend their interests ... are you saying this is a good option?
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        elites understand the simple fact that they are elites only in their own country and their luxurious life depends on their country and their people

                        Oh yeah! laughing have you heard about international corporations? if that these are the same "elites" wink
                        and about love for the people is also very clearly seen by the inspiration with which in the USA, France, Germany or Spain, the police beat protesters with wooden sticks.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        There is nothing better.

                        why does it not exist? existed for itself, but now does not exist? the Khrushchevs need to be cleaned out in time and the Trotskys need an ice pick where they need to be attached, and then communism is not such a utopia wink
                      76. 0
                        27 February 2021 09: 48
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        the rich finance politicians to protect their interests ... you mean this is a good option

                        The question is not whether this is good or bad, but whether there are other options.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        existed for itself, but now does not exist? the Khrushchevs need to be cleaned out in time and the Trotskys need an ice pick where they need to be attached, and then communism is not such a utopia

                        Do you really believe that Khrushchev is the only one to blame? Seriously?
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        But let's remember what happened after his death - everyone (exceptions at the level of static error) disowned him, and the country he created went downhill. Yes, the USSR could still issue achievements like space flights, but since 1953 it was on its way to its end. It's good?
                        The entire party elite betrayed the country and this is a historical fact.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        have not heard about international corporations

                        I heard. But any MC has a brain, so to speak, and it is far from so international.
                      77. 0
                        28 February 2021 01: 14
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        The question is not whether this is good or bad, but whether there are other options.

                        ummm .. no story? there is definitely and it is historically recorded that this is a working version request
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Do you really believe that Khrushchev is the only one to blame? Seriously?

                        why alone? as history has shown, Menshivism and Trotskyism were not expelled from the party and this led to natural results. Yes errors are known. you propose to cry out "oh everything!" instead of analyzing the problem and finding a solution?
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        The entire party elite betrayed the country and this is a historical fact.

                        not all, otherwise the coup would not have happened wink but the part that betrayed the country was definitely larger and had the full support of the West. again, exclaim "oh everything!", or draw conclusions? wink
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        I heard. But any MC has a brain, so to speak, and it is far from so international.

                        hmm .. strange what Then why, suddenly, the American company "Google" was registered in Ireland, and all Apple production went to China? belay it looks like you are seriously mistaken and the modern level of logistics allows even production facilities to be quickly moved to where it is more profitable. MK and MK because they have nothing to do with a specific country. they are associated with some country, perhaps, by their origin, but this does not affect their activities. request
                      78. -1
                        28 February 2021 06: 28
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        story not? there is definitely and it is historically recorded that this is a working version
                        Then show the USSR on the map.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        as history has shown, Menshivism and Trotskyism were not expelled from the party and this led to natural results
                        That is, the entire top of the party, even under Stalin, consisted of traitors? Well, why is she needed then?
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        not all, otherwise the coup would not have happened
                        GKChP carried out the order of Gorbachev, who set them up, the purpose of this booth was to intensify the disintegration of the country.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        it looks like you are seriously mistaken and the modern level of logistics allows even
                        The question is who is the brain, not where the machines will be transported now. The same "Google" belongs to three people who remain US citizens.
                      79. -1
                        28 February 2021 15: 54
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Then show the USSR on the map.

                        what a strange request .. are you having problems with the search engine? help you out! wink

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That is, the entire top of the party, even under Stalin, consisted of traitors?

                        um ... I don't even know how to comment on such nonsense ... request why "all"? do you want to come up with that?
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Well, why is she needed then?
                        probably at least in order for the country's leadership to protect the interests of 95% of the population of the country and not 5% as in "democratic" countries.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        GKChP carried out the order of Gorbachev, who set them up, the purpose of this booth was to intensify the disintegration of the country.

                        please refer to this order. while this statement is at the level of "all this is by the will of God Kuzi!".
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        The same "Google" belongs to three people who remain US citizens.

                        Yeah, and citizens of what other countries? wassat the same Google pays taxes in Ireland as Apple does in China. what is the difference what citizenship the owner of the corporation has?
                      80. 0
                        28 February 2021 19: 46
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        are you having problems with the search engine?
                        If I find a map with the Russian Empire, does it mean that it exists now? Show me the USSR on modern maps.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        probably at least in order for the country's leadership to protect the interests of 95% of the country's population
                        That is, when it destroyed this country, it protected the interests of 95% of the population?
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        please link to this order
                        And you do not know what the arrested people said during the investigation?
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        what's the difference what citizenship the owner of the corporation has?
                        Such that a US citizen is under US jurisdiction. He is personally, not just another hired manager.
                      81. -1
                        28 February 2021 23: 18
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That is, when it destroyed this country, it protected the interests of 95% of the population?

                        up to 1953, 95% of them exactly defended their interests. have you heard about the dictatorship of the proletariat? But starting with Khrushchev, they began to destroy the country, and in the 90s all the well-known scoundrels did it for the sake of their petty interests. you are engaged in a primitive substitution of concepts trying to pass off the meanness of individual politicians for the unviability of the system. this is a gross forgery wink the fact that the USSR, after the hardest civil war, carried out industrialization and in the Second World War, cut the EU national team headed by Germany is known to any schoolchild. if you suddenly do not know, this war is also called the war of economies. and you are here claiming that this country was not viable? why? because after Stalin came Khrushchev, and then the Gorbachevs with the Yeltsins? well to go nuts? and that's it? is the ideology utopian? But let's see how many capitalist and democratic countries have slipped into poverty and civil wars? democracy and capitalism are not viable and utopian? belay
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        And you do not know what the arrested people said during the investigation?

                        in general terms in the course, but such nonsense that Gorbachev or Yeltsin ordered them to put a putsch against, in fact, Yeltsin and Gorbachev, I have not heard this.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Such that a US citizen is under US jurisdiction. He is personally, not just another hired manager.

                        ummm .. and? but this does not help in any way to force Google to pay taxes in the USA and stop being impudent and declare in Ireland that their headquarters in the states costs 200 bucks lol so how does this "jurisdiction" affect corporations if it isn't even enough to pay taxes? what is this useless bullshit?
                      82. +1
                        1 March 2021 07: 43
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        until 1953 precisely protected
                        Which brings us back to the moment I don't remember how many times - everything was kept on one Stalin. And precisely on one, because as soon as he died, the then elite immediately went haywire. What is the vitality of the system? Well, who is substituting concepts here?
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        if you suddenly do not know, this war is also called the war of economies
                        They called it a war of motors, but I don’t remember a war of economies.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        but such nonsense that Gorbachev or Yeltsin ordered them to stage a putsch against, in fact, Yeltsin and Gorbachev
                        Another admirer of the USSR, who has not seen him in the eyes. In short, according to their testimony, Gorbachev ordered to take measures to restore order in the country, creating something like an emergency commission, and then when they spoke, he immediately eliminated so that they were simply confused not knowing what to do. This version is indirectly confirmed by the course of events itself - the so-called conspirators did practically nothing to actually seize power by eliminating their opponents.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        ummm .. and? it doesn't help in any way to get Google to pay taxes in the USA
                        Does the US care about taxes? Here the conversation is about politics, and they print as much money as they want.
                      83. 0
                        1 March 2021 13: 48
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Which brings us back to the moment I don't remember how many times - everything was kept on one Stalin. And precisely on one, because as soon as he died, the then elite immediately went haywire. What is the vitality of the system? Well, who is substituting concepts here?

                        for now, you. Tell me, in the capitalist countries, there are no political intrigues in the governments? have these intrigues never led to the country slipping into poverty and civil wars? not? never happened? bully it turns out that both capitalism and democracy are not viable? belay
                        Lenin wrote that the party needs constant cleansing, Stalin followed these precepts, Khrushchev stopped this practice under the pretext that socialism in the USSR had already won. So what? now that the Menshevik Khrushchev ruined the system, has the system become "unviable"? at the same time, there are many examples of democratically and capitalist countries that ruined their economies and lost their sovereignty. 1 USSR and over a hundred cap countries ... and you persistently pull aside hundreds of failed projects? based on the fact that the Bolsheviks' first experience was not entirely successful? where is the logic?
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        They called it a war of motors, but I don’t remember a war of economies.

                        The United States defeated Japan because it was economically stronger and could quickly recover its losses, unlike the Japanese. The USSR defeated the Third Reich by producing more aircraft tanks and weapons, economically surpassing the capabilities of the Third Reich. request
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        In short, according to their testimony, Gorbachev ordered to take measures to restore order in the country, creating something like an extraordinary commission, and then when they spoke, he immediately eliminated so that they were simply confused not knowing what to do.

                        this is where you read such nonsense? please link. what you write is contrary to elementary common sense. what kind of "extraordinary commission"? The GKChP specifically opposed Gorbachev's policies and could not have been created by him.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Does the US care about taxes? Here the conversation is about politics, and they print as much money as they want.

                        woo ... laughing you would at least read classics, like Adam Smith, to understand what happens if you "print as much money as you want." bully
                      84. +1
                        1 March 2021 16: 52
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        for now, you. tell me, in the capitalist countries there are no political intrigues in the governments? have these intrigues never led to the country slipping into poverty and civil wars?
                        So you admit that the project to create a new communist elite has failed miserably? The essence of the teachings of communism is precisely that they say everything is for the people, but it turns out "as always."
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        Lenin wrote that the party needs constant cleansing
                        I know that, only he did not specify who will be cleaning the cleaners.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        at the same time, there are many examples of democratically and capitalist countries that ruined their economies and lost sovereignty
                        Will there be analogues of the Belovezhskaya Agreements?
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        The USSR defeated the Third Reich by producing more tanks, aircraft and weapons, economically surpassing the capabilities of the Third Reich
                        The USSR had a military-type economy that was focused exclusively on war. But this does not mean that she was more developed.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        this is where you read such nonsense? please link.

                        Please, I heard that back in those years.
                        https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/278983
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        what you write is contrary to elementary common sense. what kind of "extraordinary commission"? The GKChP specifically opposed Gorbachev's policies and could not have been created by him.

                        In fact, it was he who became the last coffin lid in the USSR, so he fully complied with Gorbachev's policy.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        you would at least read classics, like Adam Smith, to understand what happens if you "print as much money as you want." bully
                        You should at least occasionally read the news from the United States, which says that they have once again raised the limit of their national debt.
                      85. 0
                        1 March 2021 18: 19
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        So you admit that the project to create a new communist elite has failed miserably?
                        right. it was the disintegration of the elites that caused the collapse of the USSR. however, it should be noted that in the elite initially, not everything was smooth. there were enough Mensheviks there since the pre-revolutionary period. Kamenev and Zinoviev were tried only by the age of 36.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        The essence of the teachings of communism is precisely that they say everything is for the people, but it turns out "as always."

                        right. while such altruists as Lenin and Stalin were in power, everything worked, but as they were replaced by Mensheviks like Khrushchev, everything fell apart. it is clear that Lenin and Stalin did not pay enough attention to personnel training and clearly underestimated the depth of penetration of Menshevism into the party request
                        but what do you mean when you write "as always"? you want to say that stealing and plundering is the natural needs of a person, which means that the authorities should steal and plunder according to what cannot be otherwise and that means everything that implies a different development of events is a utopia? belay
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        You should at least occasionally read the news from the United States, which says that they have once again raised the limit of their national debt.

                        I read it, of course, but unlike you, I, having an economic education, understand where this is leading and how it will end. By the way, they too. there, no one harbors illusions that this bubble will burst sooner or later and it will end not just with a crisis, but with a real disaster request

                        PS
                        tried to remember what reminds me of what you write .. remembered laughing canonical Trotskyism laughing "If we have more than half of the country petty-bourgeois peasantry, then we cannot build communism, which means we need to build capitalism." Yes, only Trotsky screwed up badly request
                      86. +1
                        1 March 2021 19: 16
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        right. it was the disintegration of the elites that caused the collapse of the USSR
                        Which again brings us back to the fact that the system was not viable.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        but what do you mean when you write "as always"? you want to say that stealing and plundering is the natural needs of a person, which means that the authorities should steal and plunder according to what cannot be otherwise and that means everything that implies a different development of events is a utopia?
                        If the elites are not given the opportunity to officially and legally live much better than the rest of the people, then these elites will simply demolish the state. And there really is no other way.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        I read it, of course, but unlike you, I, having an economic education, understand where this is leading and how it will end. By the way, they too. there, no one harbors illusions that this bubble will burst sooner or later and it will end not just with a crisis, but with a real disaster
                        But the local elites wanted to spit on all theories and continue to print without stopping. How they are going to rake it, I, of course, do not know, but their actions are obvious.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        Yes, only Trotsky screwed up badly
                        Well, where was communism built here? Both Trotsky and Lenin screwed up.
                      87. 0
                        1 March 2021 19: 52
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Which again brings us back to the fact that the system was not viable.

                        when your light bulb burns out you don't change it anymore? if it burns out, then the idea of ​​lighting a room is utopian?
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        If the elites are not given the opportunity to officially and legally live much better than the rest of the people, then these elites will simply demolish the state. And there really is no other way.

                        hmmm .. from 1917 to 1953 they didn't seem to be demolished ...
                        and in another way it happens. what you are defending is the consumer mentality. consumer mentality is an acquired ability, not innate, which means that you can pick up or educate people with a different mentality request now there is a scientific basis for this and specialists are able to select people with the necessary moral qualities, in contrast to 1917, and these specialists cannot be fooled by saying that you are "good" wink
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        But the local elites wanted to spit on all theories and continue to print without stopping. How they are going to rake it, I, of course, do not know, but their actions are obvious.

                        are quite obvious. "the main thing is not in my presidential term" bully you know, there is a game in which players take turns taking out bricks from a tower made of bricks and placing them on top of the tower until the tower collapses. very similar to what is happening.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Well, where was communism built here?

                        Let me remind you that capitalism for 100-200 years could not be built. feudal lords and monarchs crushed this heresy in the bud. but in the end they built ... and communism will be built. won't go anywhere wink
                        I also wanted to ask .. I forgot laughing
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        The USSR had a military-type economy that was focused exclusively on war. But this does not mean that she was more developed.

                        Explain in what place the economy of the USSR "was focused only on the war"?
                      88. 0
                        2 March 2021 06: 52
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        when your light bulb burns out you don't change it anymore? if it burns out, then the idea of ​​lighting a room is utopian?
                        In this case, the primitive communal system must be recognized as viable and relevant.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        hmmm .. from 1917 to 1953 they didn't seem to be demolished ...
                        Which again brings us back to the fact that the USSR held on to Stalin alone.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        consumer mentality is an acquired ability, not innate, which means that you can pick up or educate people with a different mentality
                        You know, not a single school teaches you how to steal and kill. The consumer mentality is just an innate ability, it is just that it manifests itself to different degrees in different people. If this were not so, then communism would have come naturally long ago. Actually, this was the main mistake - people are a biological species. No more no less.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        are quite obvious. "the main thing is not in my presidential term"
                        "After us, even a flood." I'm aware, but it's about what they are doing right now, not in the abstract future.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        Let me remind you that capitalism for 100-200 years could not be built. feudal lords and monarchs crushed this heresy in the bud
                        The capitalists could not come to power, but in fact, capitalism was actively developing, and the same France at the time of the revolution was a completely capitalist country.
                        Quote: SanichSan
                        Explain in what place the economy of the USSR "was focused only on the war"?
                        The complete centralization of all the resources of a country is the ideal system for waging war.
                      89. 0
                        27 February 2021 01: 23
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        can create a one-person cooking system?

                        Nicholas II? maybe you don't need to repeat? wink
                      90. -1
                        12 February 2021 17: 18
                        Chatterboxes and nachetchiks, wailing about Stalin in their wet dreams, did not read Stalin himself. Otherwise, they would have known with what respect he treated the same American efficiency.
                      91. 0
                        27 February 2021 01: 22
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        or the system of training and selection of such Stalins

                        the Leaders of Russia program? belay
                      92. +7
                        10 February 2021 19: 12
                        Quote: Dart2027

                        To put it simply, communism is a utopia.

                        Utopia cannot create ... utopia raised the country in a very short period, to unprecedented heights in history, despite the wars and the backlog that was left by the monarch .. from a poor agrarian country, "utopia" created the strongest state in the world .. yes and thanks to "utopia" you were born ..
                      93. -11
                        10 February 2021 20: 18
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Utopia cannot create ... utopia raised the country in a very short period, to unprecedented heights in history, despite the wars and the backlog that was left by the monarch .. from a poor agrarian country, "utopia" created the strongest state in the world .. yes and thanks to "utopia" you were born ..

                        Please show me on the map this is the strongest state in the world, I really want to see.
                      94. +2
                        11 February 2021 10: 06
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Please show me on the map this is the strongest state in the world, I really want to see.

                        quote from one book: - "The history of the people is something whole and unified, there can be no corrections or omissions in it, because, otherwise, the people, who have rejected their past, will disappear"
                        in other words, all the present is the result of the past, and this state was not so bad that you cannot find on the map
                      95. -5
                        11 February 2021 10: 44
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        in other words, all the present is the result of the past

                        That is, he is not ... For some reason?
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        and this state was not so bad

                        It was neither bad nor good. There were different moments, but it was a dead end. Precisely because of the fact that ideology was taken as a basis.
                      96. +1
                        11 February 2021 23: 28
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That is, he is not ... For some reason?

                        it is, this is Russia, a little castrated.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        It was neither bad nor good. There were different moments, but it was a dead end. Precisely because of the fact that ideology was taken as a basis.

                        Christianity is also based on ideology. It is. Christianity. There is a leader - Jesus. He sacrificed himself. Stalin also sacrificed himself, his time and strength. Maybe this is the case, in self-sacrifice?
                      97. -1
                        11 February 2021 23: 32
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        it is, this is Russia

                        Is Russia the USSR? The communists won't agree.
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        Christianity is also based on ideology

                        And there is. But in our time, the likelihood that it will become the dominant political ideology is practically zero, but some Idea of ​​the Common Good may already go sideways.
                      98. +1
                        11 February 2021 23: 38
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        The idea of ​​the Common Good can already go sideways.

                        did not understand the phrase? explain
                      99. -1
                        12 February 2021 07: 11
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        did not understand the phrase?

                        Well, most of the "Great Ideas" call to make the whole world happy, or at least to make it much better. Communism called for this, this (theoretically) should have been given by democracy, supporters of the idea of ​​some truth that Russia should bring to the world say about this (you can find it on this site). Better to let these "Ideas" promote others, it is very expensive.
                      100. -3
                        10 February 2021 20: 44
                        Quote: Svarog
                        and thanks to "utopia" you were born ..

                        "For procreation, you need something completely different" (c)
                      101. -5
                        10 February 2021 18: 18
                        Where is the leader able to repeat this? Do you have sales markets for this repeating? Or a huge pile of money that is not busy with anything. And no military growth of Russia now fucking needs those funds that more than enough are directed to the defense industry in huge armies there is no longer any sense.
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                      104. +11
                        10 February 2021 20: 40
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: Svarog
                        You need to ask the Zaputin people .. you all markets are simple .. if

                        Wasn't it the communists led by Gorbachev who did it?

                        And aren't they now in power and their followers?
                      105. -11
                        10 February 2021 20: 44
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Aren't they in power now?

                        Judging by how much the United States loves Gorbachev and how they seek to overthrow Putin, it is unlikely ..
                      106. +5
                        10 February 2021 20: 48
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Aren't they in power now?

                        Judging by how much the United States loves Gorbachev and how they seek to overthrow Putin, it is unlikely ..

                        So Gorbachev has not yet acquired his own oligarchs, and Putin has surrounded himself with them and now they have to defend their interests .. And then, they are not so striving ... if they really did, there would be no "childish" sanctions ... for an adult would overlay ..
                      107. -5
                        10 February 2021 22: 48
                        Quote: Svarog
                        So Gorbachev has not yet acquired his own oligarchs, and Putin surrounded himself with them

                        Under Gorbachev, they did not have time to appear.
                        Quote: Svarog
                        And then, not so much they strive ... if they really strove, then there would be no "children's" sanctions ... an adult would be imposed.

                        Yes, yes, yes ... They let him into Syria and allowed Georgia to heap, and the Crimea ... Aren't you tired of repeating these tales? However, there is nothing to argue.
                      108. +26
                        10 February 2021 20: 57
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Judging by how much the United States loves Gorbachev and how they seek to overthrow Putin, it is unlikely ..

                        why did love suddenly disappear? Didn't share?

                      109. -5
                        10 February 2021 22: 47
                        Quote: Silvestr
                        why did love suddenly disappear?

                        So you don't know such a thing as a diplomatic protocol? There is something to be done.
                      110. +2
                        11 February 2021 21: 19
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Quote: Svarog
                        Aren't they in power now?

                        Judging by how much the United States loves Gorbachev and how they seek to overthrow Putin, it is unlikely ..

                        They love humps, but why should they overthrow Putin ?! It is much easier to finally break the half-broken with his hands.
                      111. -2
                        11 February 2021 22: 00
                        Quote: Wizzzard
                        but why should they overthrow Putin ?! It is much easier to finally break the half-broken with his hands

                        Oh really? So why are they so eager to overthrow him?
                      112. +10
                        10 February 2021 19: 33
                        Quote: Vadim237
                        Do you have sales markets for this repeat?

                        go through any supermarket, screws, sockets, power supplies, electronics, heating batteries. Consumer goods are shorter, all that comes to mind is all imports. If we take the products of "our" agriculture, then the harvesters, at least from us, in Western Siberia, are imported. Chinese electric motors. Yes, our market is dimensionless. Protective duties and the correct political and economic course and the market are guaranteed
                      113. -7
                        10 February 2021 21: 06
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        Protective duties and the correct political and economic course and the market are guaranteed

                        brilliant! We return to the idea of ​​the late Borukh Nemtsov - "officials - to the" Volga "!" and creatively expanding it to chimerical dimensions. "Poor - but his own!" We drive the entire 84-85 group of TN VED to 10 ... no ... 20 percent duty. We include red for the import of capital goods. We breed an army of cunning startups and watch how the mountain gives birth to a mouse, and the budget is sawn under the technologies passed off as know-how long ago worked out in the West (and the East).
                        "The market is guaranteed"? Which one? Again a pseudo-abundance of shitty goods and a general people's secret and obvious passion to become the owner of an imported analogue of domestic garbage?
                        Your scenario of an introverted state (semi-autarchy) is the most, sorry, idiotic that you can wish for your country.
                      114. +1
                        11 February 2021 09: 43
                        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                        Your scenario of an introverted state (semi-autarchy) is the most, sorry, idiotic that you can wish for your country.

                        I will gladly study your option smile
                      115. -1
                        11 February 2021 10: 06
                        Only a state with a strong export-oriented economy can afford protectionism in the radical form that you are setting out here. Of course, I mean commodity and technological exports, not raw materials. And in the context of modern global realities, such a strategy can only be a response to the external challenge of an equal competitor. That is - one of the forms of economic, I'm not afraid of this word, war. And you are suggesting that Russia, with its caricatured quasi-capitalism, roll back about ... twenty years and turn into an economic autarchy, all external relations of which will be held only and exclusively on the notorious pipe. Because, dear, Russia will not be able to provide any competitive techno- and science-intensive goods to foreign markets in the foreseeable future. Well, except for grains, rutabagas and hydrocarbons. Moreover, the latter became a national fetish in connection with the fuss around the SP-2.
                      116. +3
                        11 February 2021 10: 12
                        Thanks for the answer, I really haven't found any options for the future How do you like the version of the state program to provide every citizen of our country with a 3D printer? and the state takes on the responsibility of providing consumables and various printheads. You don't have to buy soap dishes !! laughing and there you see, some printers will print more others ... people will cooperate to upload their crafts, files to them, and self-production of consumer goods, so necessary in our country, will begin laughing
                      117. -2
                        11 February 2021 10: 20
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        How do you like the version of the state program to provide every citizen of our country with a 3D printer?

                        Let's go further - why then the state does not solve the demographic problem, about which the authorities like to whine, with the help of reproductive cloning? ))
                      118. +3
                        11 February 2021 10: 32
                        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                        Let's go further - why then the state does not solve the demographic problem, about which the authorities like to whine, with the help of reproductive cloning? ))

                        very high cost laughing... and yet your development option ???
                      119. 0
                        11 February 2021 11: 09
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        your development option ???

                        development? What kind of development can we talk about in general? In the spirit of Putin's populist paradigm with "jerks"? Sorry, "I am not a hunter of nonsense" (c) There can be no talk of any progressive reforms in a country where the "inner circle" and a pack of thieves rule.
                      120. +2
                        11 February 2021 11: 22
                        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                        Sorry, "I am not a hunter of nonsense" (c) There can be no talk of any progressive reforms in a country where the "inner circle" and a pack of thieves rule.

                        do we leave everything as it is? or revolution? belay
                      121. 0
                        11 February 2021 11: 30
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        do we leave everything as it is?

                        "everything as it is" will be left without us. The authorities have no sane development concepts.
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        or revolution?

                        what the hell is a revolution? The driver of any revolution in Russia is a lost war. Then start with this. And all this fuss and throwing cups at the "cosmonauts" is the essence of steam blowing a whistle and an intragram antics. There are no systemic revolutionaries who have a more or less sane model in their heads and are not expected. And all these pigs in yarmulkes, hoping that a wave of populism and turmoil will carry them to the coveted feeder ..... well, don't tell me.
                      122. 0
                        11 February 2021 12: 36
                        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                        The authorities have no sane development concepts.

                        I'm interested in yours smile
                      123. 0
                        11 February 2021 12: 22
                        Well export-oriented is your everything! By 2014 we had entered the "world economy" so much that with minimal independent actions, we got stuck in a serious economic crisis. It turned out that not only the production of aircraft and marine engines and other technological equipment, but even the maintenance of banking and within the economic activity is critically tied to the world community, which gladly tried to show us a goat's face. I think everyone is aware that they had to create their own card system MIR, not because of nothing to do, but because of the critical dependence on the world payment systems Visa and Mastercard, and there were attempts of blackmail by the owners of these systems, interbank payments took only a year and a half how its own system of interbank settlements appeared. It has long been proven
                        a - currency stability is determined by the capacity of the domestic market, and not by the number of colored candy wrappers earned in the foreign market;
                        b - stability of the economy by creating a common market for states with a total of at least 300-350 million people;
                        This is one of the reasons why the West, or rather finance - the economic groups that work there, are making every effort to prevent the EAEU from achieving the appropriate size and level of integration.
                      124. -7
                        10 February 2021 20: 37
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        And where is the country that showed the world economic and military growth under Stalin?

                        Where, where ... Stop whining, its 30 years old, as it is not, this country. That is, her no almost half of the time that she was... And you are still tormented by phantom pains of former greatness.
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        Where is the leader capable of repeating this?

                        What exactly to repeat? Collectivization-industrialization? Liberation hikes in the neighborhood? An iron curtain from the world? What do you personally expect from the clone of Comrade Stalin?
                      125. +4
                        10 February 2021 23: 14
                        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                        An iron curtain from the world?

                        Well, the curtain should not be attributed to Stalin - this epithet was invented by another well-known "father of nations", and there the figures "expanded and deepened" later.
                      126. 0
                        11 February 2021 10: 30
                        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                        What do you personally expect from the clone of Comrade Stalin?

                        executions for non-fulfillment of tasks of state importance, progressive tax on profits, guaranteed higher education and free medical care, strict pegging of the ruble to the kilowatt, definition and constitutional consolidation of the concept of social justice, the creation of two branches of science - classical and strategic.
                      127. -1
                        11 February 2021 19: 39
                        Stop nodding at Stalin. He was a genius in his day and in those conditions. Now other conditions and those methods will not work. They didn't work already in the 1970s.
                    3. -9
                      10 February 2021 18: 51
                      Quote: Svarog
                      especially if they require memory, logic and common sense
                      What kind of "memory, logic and common sense to expect from people who are posting these complaints of mental disabilities here, waving at Navalny's demonstrations:" Putin promised, wants, worried ... ", but does not bring the inflation rate in the country and the prices about which specifically it is a question ". On this you catch young losharikov. And I want to catch you. But ... God did not give horns to the vigorous cow. And rightly so, they will begin to pinch you even without me. Work, brothers!
                    4. -9
                      10 February 2021 20: 43
                      Svarog (Vladimir). You don't have a crown on your head, you want a plague in your guts. Probably, perhaps, you live on the dark side of the moon and do not know what is happening on the planet. There will be a holiday on your street when you fry your direct master.
                    5. +3
                      10 February 2021 21: 57
                      How are the May decrees doing?
                      coronavirus prevented!
                      1. +4
                        11 February 2021 02: 57
                        And the Pechenegs with the Cumans
                  2. -12
                    10 February 2021 14: 00
                    The mysterious Russian Spirit, and no one has figured it out. They don't understand why we are winning. They do not understand why we have mass heroism both in peacetime and in wartime.
                    Do not judge the poet strictly, he tried as best he could ...
                    Just watch the video and remember who we are, and let Navalny and his owners go through the forest
                    1. +9
                      10 February 2021 14: 17
                      Why don't you and your employers, crooks and thieves, who intensively cut this forest and take it out at an accelerated pace, especially to China, go to restore it? While voluntarily.
                    2. +1
                      11 February 2021 08: 47
                      Quote: Achilles
                      Just watch the video

                      Did the doctor from Channel One prescribed this propaganda enema for you?
                      Quote: Achilles
                      The mysterious Russian Spirit, and no one has figured it out.

                      laughing Because no one cares about this fairy tale. But the individual people, of course, hawala.
                      1. -7
                        11 February 2021 09: 02
                        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                        Because no one cares about this fairy tale. But the individual people, of course, hawala.

                        Fairy tale?
                        So explain why Russia is the largest territory in the world? Why did they try to conquer us so many times, but how did they fail? What's lucky? Or is it really a really mysterious Russian spirit and we have mass heroism both peacefully and in wartime. Apparently, you are so stupid that you do not understand basic things.
                      2. +2
                        11 February 2021 09: 47
                        Quote: Achilles
                        Apparently, you are so stupid that you do not understand basic things

                        On the contrary, my dear, I am smart enough to be skeptical about your nonsense about some "Russian spirit" laughing
                        Well, if you wish, then let's approach this metaphysics in Surkov's way - you, in fact, what exactly "Russian spirit" do you mean? Deep, primitive, which you are fed from the box? About the "Russian world", "didyou fought", "we can repeat", "all around enemies" and other popular prints? Or a horseman, a thief, a bureaucrat, in which the authorities have assigned you the place of a marginal picking in scraps, but ready at the snap of your fingers to become frustrated and mumble patriotic mantras?
                      3. -5
                        11 February 2021 12: 40
                        Quote: Paragraph Epitafievich Y.
                        On the contrary, my dear, I am smart enough to be skeptical about your nonsense about some "Russian spirit"
                        Well, if you wish, then let's approach this metaphysics in Surkov's way - you, in fact, what exactly "Russian spirit" do you mean? Deep, primitive, which you are fed from the box? About the "Russian world", "didyou fought", "we can repeat", "all around enemies" and other popular prints? Or a horseman, a thief, a bureaucrat, in which the authorities have assigned you the place of a marginal picking in scraps, but ready at the snap of your fingers to become frustrated and mumble patriotic mantras?

                        You write to us being fed from a box, here are the last examples - and Alexander Prokhorenko, Major Filipov, Magomed Nurbagandovich Nurbagandov, were they also fed from the box?
                        About the Russian spirit, we mean all the peoples living in Russia and the former republics of the USSR (all foreigners who speak Russian say that they are Russian). The video clearly shows what is meant, if you do not understand, these are your problems. There is also a phrase by Alexander Suvorov: "We are Russians. God is with us!" If you do not understand all these phrases and the meaning of all this, then you are a really stupid person.
                      4. +1
                        11 February 2021 13: 06
                        Quote: Achilles
                        Magomed Nurbagandovich Nurbagandov, were they also fed from the box?

                        This one also has a "Russian spirit"? He was definitely fed to you from the box. Together with a heroic slogan.
                        Quote: Achilles
                        About the Russian spirit means all the peoples living in Russia and the former republics of the USSR

                        Did you ask them something? Or were they all indiscriminately endowed with the "Russian spirit"? Maybe he hadn’t stuck with them for a hundred years, this spirit? I vividly imagined the Tatar muezzin howling in the morning about the "Russian spirit" from the minaret. Or the rabbi at the bar mitzvah rubs the initiates about the "Russian spirit" laughing
                        Quote: Achilles
                        The video clearly shows what is meant, if you do not understand, these are your problems.

                        And I don't see any problems - I just don't watch such a nauseous pretentious splint. You like it - look, for someone this pulp is molded.
                        Quote: Achilles
                        There is also a phrase by Alexander Suvorov: "We are Russians. God is with us!"

                        So what? Do Russians have a monopoly on God?
                        Quote: Achilles
                        If you do not understand all these phrases and the meaning of all this, then you are a really stupid person.

                        An amiable, "really stupid person" - this is that cretin who rushes with uplifting platitudes, compensating for his inferiority complex with pretentious rubbish.
                      5. -2
                        11 February 2021 16: 30
                        Judging by everything that you have written here, you are not given to understand the very essence of the phrase: "Mysterious Russian Spirit", you are weak in spirit
                      6. +1
                        11 February 2021 16: 48
                        Quote: Achilles
                        you are not given to understand the very essence of the phrase: "Mysterious Russian Spirit", you are weak in spirit

                        Sniff, maybe you can find your own here by smell. Good luck.
                      7. -2
                        11 February 2021 17: 33
                        Quote from Otto von Bismarck: "Make alliances with anyone, unleash any wars, but never touch the Russians" - Has he also seen enough of Channel One propaganda?

                        Stalin's words: "For the Russian people are a great people. The Russian people are a kind people. The Russian people have a clear mind. It is as if they were born to help other nations. The Russian people have great courage, especially in difficult times, in dangerous times. They are proactive. He has a persistent character. He is a dreamy people. He has a goal. That is why it is harder for him than for other nations. You can rely on him in any trouble. The Russian people are irresistible, inexhaustible "- Has he also seen enough propaganda from the first channel?

                        Otto von Bismarck has a quote: "The Russians cannot be defeated, we have seen this for hundreds of years. But the Russians can be instilled with false values, and then they will defeat themselves." Apparently, you have already been instilled with these deceitful values.
                      8. +1
                        11 February 2021 17: 56
                        Quote: Achilles
                        Otto von Bismarck has a quote: "The Russians cannot be defeated, we have seen this for hundreds of years. But the Russians can be instilled with false values, and then they will defeat themselves." Apparently, you have already been instilled with these deceitful values.

                        For God's sake, dismiss this idiocy with invented quotes. Bismarck never said that, your television is lying to you. However, if tomorrow the First Channel puts its next nonsense into the mouth of the Chancellor of the Second Reich, then I believe you will unconditionally believe it.
                        Quote: Achilles
                        Quote from Otto von Bismarck: "Make alliances with anyone, unleash any wars, but never touch the Russians" - Has he also seen enough of Channel One propaganda?

                        Do you, my dear fellow, think that the Iron Prussian was frightened by the "Russian spirit"? Are you seriously?
                  3. -7
                    10 February 2021 18: 03
                    It was covered in the same 2008, in which this 2020 program was taken on the basis of that economic growth and the cost of oil - but the reality turned out to be harsh.
                    1. +2
                      11 February 2021 02: 58
                      They do not know how to plan, there is nothing to take.
                      Where is the responsibility?
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                      2. +1
                        11 February 2021 17: 35
                        "That's why it is planning to make adjustments in terms of volume and timing of emerging circumstances."

                        So it is, but there is a limit to everything, there should not be such planning, which, as a result of adjustments, has continuous failures and non-fulfillment!
                  4. +1
                    11 February 2021 17: 41
                    "How are the May decrees doing? Where is the implementation of the 2020 program?"

                    Here, the "prapagandasti" immediately silently merged shamefully!
                    No answer...
                  5. 0
                    12 February 2021 09: 17
                    It's funny to watch you cling to it. It is impossible to control those who are controlled from the west.
                2. +11
                  10 February 2021 17: 40
                  Quote: sniperino
                  Denials of deniers ..... mediocre students

                  It was with great relief and delight that the factory workers and village workers took the news that the 100 billion palace does not belong to Putin personally, but to his childhood friend.

                  - Ale, Arkasha.
                  - Yes.
                  - Your palace.
                  - What? What palace?
                  - It was not a question.
                  - Oh, I understand, Vladimir Vladimirovich.

                  With a flick of the hand, the palace is transformed ... the palace is transformed ... the palace is transformed ... into an elegant apart-hotel.

                  This is how you wake up one day, and all of Russia has already been rewritten in Rotenberg.

                  - Vladim Vladimych, the hat is smoking on you!
                  - It isnot mine.

                  The test did not confirm the palace of Arkady Rotenberg.

                  The proverb “You cannot make stone chambers by righteous labor” was recognized by the court of the city of Gelendzhik as extremist material inciting social discord.
              2. +3
                10 February 2021 13: 14
                Here is your library, time-stamped video. 58:37

                Quote: lexus
                For everyone who watched the original video,

                Did you watch it yourself, or is it the second mistake?
                Quote: lexus
                I always check the validity

                Vague doubts torment me ...
                1. 0
                  10 February 2021 13: 28
                  Errors in 3D graphics. In real photos, everything is correct.
                  1. +9
                    10 February 2021 13: 31
                    If you are talking about the library, then Navalny says that this is a palace from the inside - 58:33, but shows Prague. The gate with the eagle is no longer and will not be, even the attachments and hinges to them have been removed.
                    1. +10
                      10 February 2021 17: 26
                      Quote: Ilya098
                      If you are talking about the library, then Navalny says that this is a palace from the inside - 58:33

                      If it didn't seem to me, Navalny refers to the website of the furniture manufacturer, where there are photos of their work, and there are also photos of Putin and Medvedev. He says so. What is the lie?
                      1. -4
                        10 February 2021 19: 49
                        where photos of their works, and also there are photos of Putin and Medvedev

                        Here are just the interiors of the Prague library and a photo of Putin with Medvedev on the site are in different videos - Excellence and Mood. In addition to the library, there is also a photo with the Burj Khalifa skyscraper, you can just as well attribute it to Putin. laughing
                        He says so

                        Not this way. The photographs are presented to Navalny not as examples of the company's work, but as the interiors of "Putin's palace", because while the viewer is looking at this luxurious library from Prague, Navalny says
                        photos of Putin's palace from the inside

                        Pure manipulation, the task of which is to show the viewer how expensive the finishing is. Shots of expensively decorated buildings are shoved, it doesn't matter where, the main thing is to look expensive, everything is according to the precepts of Goebbels
                        If you tell a lie big enough and repeat it, people will eventually believe it.

                        Only in the case of the Berlin patient
                        If you constantly show rich interiors, then people will eventually believe that everything is very expensively decorated there.

                        By the way, the sound insulation in this "palace of advice" is the cheapest of the line - StopZvuk BP Standard
                        Here is a moment in the video where you can see which brand

                        And here are the prices - https://stopzvuk.ru/shop/shumoizolyatsiya/stopzvuk-bp/
                      2. +6
                        10 February 2021 20: 52
                        Quote: Ilya098
                        Pure manipulation, the task of which is to show the viewer how expensive the finishing is. Shots of expensively decorated buildings are shoved, it doesn't matter where, the main thing is to look expensive, everything is according to the precepts of Goebbels

                        This is easily refuted by the presentation of all the legal documents, right? wink
                        And Olesha is charged with an article for slander. Is not it?
                        Poorly Voviny druzhbanu present documents? Or is he not obliged to defend the friendship? wink
                      3. 0
                        11 February 2021 09: 31
                        Quote: Ingvar 72

                        This is easily refuted by the presentation of all the legal documents, right?

                        If you are so interested in documents, you can write to these addresses - [email protected] и [email protected]. And ask to contact the Rotenberg press service. If they don’t answer here, then I think you can find them in other companies of Arkady Romanovich.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        And Olesha is charged with an article for slander. Is not it?

                        Rather, the Prague library will go to court because it was ranked among such a scandalous object. According to Rotenberg, he acquired the building a couple of years ago, the builders say that in such a devastated state the object has been standing for at least 6 years. The failed boarding house is gradually losing the signs of "residence". 3, the helipad has been reborn into a skating rink more necessary for the hotel (Rotenberg, by the way, is the chairman of the FHR and a fan of hockey). The bare walls are covered with the cheapest soundproofing, after being reborn into a hotel, the need for the gates also disappeared and they were removed, and the builders tell where the room will be. By the way, about slander, this is in the hands of the future hotel, black PR is also PR, so it will have more guests wink ... They will come to gaze at the fountain and look at those who store dirt not in special expensive heat chambers, but in Mobilestella bookcases and wardrobes.
                        Or is he not obligated to defend

                        If you think that the "palace" belongs to Putin, and Rotenberg covers it up because he does not abandon each other, then it turns out that Putin is such a friend to Rotenberg. Dumped on him a problematic long-term construction, where work for several years and scandals for decades. And according to your version, he should also protect him. Imagine if you were presented with an old dilapidated country house, on which some illegal schemes were stirring up.
                        Poorly Voviny druzhbanu present documents?

                        And you ask his press service whether he is weak or not.
                2. +9
                  10 February 2021 14: 51
                  Quote: Ilya098
                  Did you watch it yourself, or is it the second mistake?
                  Quote: lexus
                  I always check the validity

                  Vague doubts torment me ...

                  what's the difference?? tired already sad After all, in fact, it does not matter whether Putin is the palace or Rottenberg. It is important that absolutely everyone does not trust our government, the Russian people expect something else from the government: - the possibility of self-realization of their potential!
                  1. -2
                    10 February 2021 15: 48
                    Quote: aybolyt678
                    what's the difference?

                    That is, the fact that the accusations are outright lies is not important?
                    1. +9
                      10 February 2021 17: 30
                      Yes, it's a lie, like the presence of the FSO and border guards at a private facility. laughing
                      It's good to lie, they have already posted a video where documents were presented for the construction of a FSO boarding house signed by Putin and Medvedev. Already from 2005. How did Arkasha Rotenberg surfaced there?
                      1. -7
                        10 February 2021 17: 57
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        It's good to lie, we have already posted a video where documents were presented for the construction of a FSO boarding house signed by Putin and Medvedev.

                        Who gave all the best? Foreign agents?
                      2. +4
                        10 February 2021 18: 05
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Foreign agents?

                        Not. And what difference does it make if these documents have not been recognized as a fake to this day.
                      3. -7
                        10 February 2021 18: 10
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Not. And what difference does it make if these documents have not been recognized as a fake to this day.

                        And who are they generally recognized by? And the difference is that Goebbels said a lot of things, just believe everything ...
                      4. +4
                        10 February 2021 18: 32
                        You are like a child. Aren't documents signed by top officials of the state direct evidence? And if it is a fake, then this crime is more abrupt than failure to appear at the mark, but no criminal case has been initiated. wink
                      5. -5
                        10 February 2021 20: 32
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        You are like a child. Aren't documents signed by top officials of the state direct evidence?

                        Well, yes, and they will be scattered anywhere. Who was there talking about children?
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        then this crime is more abrupt than failure to appear at the mark, but a criminal case has not been initiated

                        What for? To advertise this lie? Putin is smarter than some of his critics.
                      6. +4
                        10 February 2021 21: 09
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Putin is smarter than some of his critics.

                        Therefore, he put Ovalny in prison for violating the parole mark! good The mind is so rushing, and you too! (I compare you with Putin wink )
                      7. -4
                        10 February 2021 22: 58
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Therefore, he put Ovalny in prison for violating the parole mark!

                        Exactly. This is how such fighters should be imprisoned - according to banal and boring articles.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        The mind is so rushing, and you also

                        I can't say the same about you.
                    2. +1
                      10 February 2021 17: 46
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      That is, the fact that the accusations are outright lies is not important?

                      it is important that there are palaces! and they were built not for money for services to science, the people, the state, but by selling the Motherland in the form of oil, or by cutting the budget of the same Motherland. The situation is frankly similar to the 90th year. Navalny performs the function of the TV program "Look". Soon there will be another Tsoi with his song "We want CHANGE", the function of the CPSU is performed by the snickering EP, Kovid is playing the role of Chumak, and a mask of charged water. After the House of Soviets, people from the CPSU remained in power, only zeroing their social obligations. To this we are being led now.
                      1. -5
                        10 February 2021 17: 56
                        Quote: aybolyt678
                        it is important that there are palaces! and they were built

                        Who is the owner of the palaces? Show the documents, where it is said by whom, for what and with what money are they being built?
                        However, you do not deny lies.
                  2. -2
                    11 February 2021 08: 59
                    He expects the Russian people from the authorities of another: - the possibility of self-realization of their potential!

                    All normal Russians realized themselves and reached heights, in business, politics, science, government structures, finally

                    All who see that they are not given the opportunity are not Russians, but those living in Russia. Don't associate the Russian people with these losers
                    1. +4
                      11 February 2021 10: 18
                      Some "patriots" turned out to be so "successful" that they sculpt their "protective letters" right from across the ocean, from sunny, but at the same time "hated and decaying America." How is it, Oleg? I am ashamed to ask, do you love your spouse remotely too? Maybe it's time for all strikebreakers to return to their homeland and show the "losers" by personal example how to be realized? On Komsomol capitalist construction, for example. And we, when the "shop closes", we will provide you with free robes and gruel, with "interesting people", colleagues-odographers, we will bring you together. You will squeal with joy with them on the restoration of the taiga and associate yourself like "normal Russians". If you want, you will always be always - we will put on sawing the dried branches. And you will certainly "grow" in a state structure - some well-known ITK.


                      1. -3
                        11 February 2021 10: 44
                        Do you disagree that modern Russia is perfect
                        Borders wide open, while there is "Putin's bloody regime" no iron curtain has been and will not be. Drive back and forth as much as you like. No scarcity, everything would be available if money was. And they will be if the economy collapses and all sorts of lulz like the Crimea and the DPR will be arranged, stable 75 rubles per dollar are provided, ten years ago one could only dream of this. Those living in the states are grateful to Putin like no one else

                        Rosneft was unable to agree with the trustees, Opek out of spite dropped oil prices, and gas prices in the United States fell by half. There is one benefit from Putin, wherever you look

                        And then blogger Navalny comes out, muddies the waters, offers to change something, but let him be closed forever
                      2. +24
                        11 February 2021 10: 57
                        Quote: Santa Fe
                        Do you disagree that modern Russia is perfect

                        is it written in a madhouse? Beatings, voting in toilets, gigantic social and financial stratification, etc. crap - is this an ideal state?
                        Quote: Santa Fe
                        And then blogger Navalny comes out, muddies the waters, offers to change something, but let him be closed forever

                        maybe people like you forever? As I understand it, you rushed to the States forever and now love your Motherland from afar?

                        the last words of the taxi driver are your principle of life?
                      3. +1
                        11 February 2021 11: 22
                        Sylvester hi,
                        it seems that it was not a very successful sarcasm performed by Kaptsov, nevertheless in his answer he only confirmed the fact that from all the attempts of "EdRa" to live it becomes better exclusively for "rowers" and foe. But the traitor is still Navalny and the protesters. wassat
                      4. +3
                        11 February 2021 11: 09
                        "You are far from Russia." (C) Russian, go home. Come back! Homeland awaits!

                        "It's good everywhere here!", Painting, Vasya Lozhkin (Alexey Vladimirovich Kudelin), wonderful people's artist

                        PS Sarcasm is a wonderful thing, but we have already gotten fed up with them - because of them we stopped watching "dyposcop-TV", read the press, visit the pages of the "official" media on the Internet, and also go to the elections of one "character" and his many insatiable " friends. "
                3. -3
                  10 February 2021 18: 25
                  In fact, this hotel for the elite, which has been building for 15 years, is not in fact, and apparently there was nothing that Oval showed in this film.
              3. +5
                10 February 2021 13: 27
                Navalny's life is being studied under a microscope. It's his own fault. He called himself a politician - crawl under the attentive studying glances. That is why in 2015 the book "Navalny. Results" was published.
                Because even then everything was clear: about the theft in the actual state position (the adviser of the Kirov governor Belykh, who, by the way, was later caught red-handed himself on a bribe), and about the creation of a sect of followers.
                Well, of course, I mean the Kirovles case, where the current donatenfuehrer noted that he inflicted damage to the state of 16 million rubles. The first, so to speak, hurt - further damage was already more significant.
                Is it possible to admit to power the one who from the very beginning "showed himself", so to speak, in all thieves' glory?
                Think about it, defenders.
                1. +12
                  10 February 2021 14: 03
                  Especially for the "special" I repeat. I am not a supporter / defender of either the Putin or the Navalny. But the materials of the investigations of the second must be checked and, if their reliability is confirmed, be sure to attach to criminal cases in the future, when the Courts again become PEOPLE, and the destroyers of our GREAT MOTHERLAND and the destroyers of its PEOPLE will be responsible for what they have done. The triumph of the Law and just retribution are my life guidelines.
                  1. -2
                    10 February 2021 17: 59
                    Tell me who your friend is and I know who you are. By the pluses, you can understand that you are not an interested person, so you are piled up with pluses. You forget what you wrote earlier and pretend to be such a sheep that you can scare the wolf. Your landmarks were marked back in the last century in one country, which told its citizens that they are swindlers, and everyone else is crap. Therefore, we will expand the country at the expense of the east. No need to pretend even in dreams, you are not the one who thinks well of himself, you flatter yourself.
                  2. -2
                    10 February 2021 18: 34
                    Courts will become PEOPLE again - And that this will change the people have always been and will be a motley mass and everyone had their own shirt and will be closer to the body, so you can forget about a fair judicial system like everything else.
                    1. -4
                      10 February 2021 18: 49
                      Get out of the swamp carefully. You’re not in a jar of sour cream and whipping butter out of sour cream and crawling out, this happens in jokes. But if you like the swamp - stay in it, it is almost sour cream, but the color is different and generally tasteless.
                2. -2
                  10 February 2021 20: 41
                  Quote: Achilles
                  Navalny's life is being studied under a microscope. It's his own fault. He called himself a politician - crawl under the attentive studying glances. That is why in 2015 the book "Navalny. Results" was published.
                  Because even then everything was clear: about the theft in the actual state position (the adviser of the Kirov governor Belykh, who, by the way, was later caught red-handed himself on a bribe), and about the creation of a sect of followers.
                  Well, of course, I mean the Kirovles case, where the current donatenfuehrer noted that he inflicted damage to the state of 16 million rubles. The first, so to speak, hurt - further damage was already more significant.
                  Is it possible to admit to power the one who from the very beginning "showed himself", so to speak, in all thieves' glory?
                  Think about it, defenders.

                  For example, Stalin was somehow allowed in, but he also stole and served time for it. And this fact does not prevent him from being one of the significant figures in history.
                  1. +1
                    27 February 2021 02: 03
                    Quote: Antonio_Mariarti
                    Stalin was somehow allowed in, but he also stole and served time for it.

                    this is when Stalin was in prison for theft? Did you get this nonsense from the fantasies of the modern intelligentsia, embodied in second-rate serials?
            2. -9
              10 February 2021 14: 50
              Quote: Cube123
              Have you heard of NLP? The most persistent and those obey talented manipulators.

              For some reason, those who have joined the navral sect do not think, and what kind of babos were all these videos shot on, including against vaccinations? I was vaccinated despite my diabetes, age and other ailments. The first stage, the flight is normal, the second day. Think for yourself how this balabol and loafer can earn this. Each video: screenwriter, director, cameraman, sound engineer, editor, lighting, room rental, professional equipment, feeding ... Where does the money come from? Videos against vaccinations: the voice-overs are the same, articulation and sound do not match, apparently the editor was negligent laughing ... Talking heads mumble stupidly and joylessly, their goal is to muddy the consciousness of the audience. Yes, and the very question of the crown: the laboratories in Wuhan were built with American money, the Americans, the Americans worked with the Chinese, funding from the Pentagon budget, like the rest of four hundred laboratories around the world. Obama closed the topic after an emergency in a military laboratory in a small American town. Trump-Opened Funding. I will be glad when I learn that the special services have taken decisive measures against the authors of these videos under the law or outside the law, as a taxpayer I want the action to be taken. sad
              1. -6
                10 February 2021 15: 48
                Quote: Balu
                For some reason, those who have joined the navral sect do not think about what kind of babos all these videos were shot on, including against vaccinations?

                And this is a question that all revolutionaries hate.
                1. +9
                  10 February 2021 17: 34
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  And this is a question that all revolutionaries hate.

                  I have a side to this question - even if the loot comes from abroad (which by the way I am almost sure of), this does not negate the fact that our helm is a crook of the same kind.
                  1. -8
                    10 February 2021 17: 58
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    I have a side to this question - even if the loot comes from abroad (which, by the way, I'm almost sure of)

                    So you admit that they all work for the State Department? Already good.
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    this does not negate the fact that our helm is a crook of the same kind

                    Which does not allow you to destroy the country as you would like?
                    1. +3
                      10 February 2021 18: 13
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      So you admit that they all work for the State Department? Already good.

                      Perhaps they work.
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      Which does not allow you to destroy the country as you would like?

                      The country is destroyed by your power, which can be easily verified according to Rosstat data.
                      And you, sitting in your trolleys, knocking on the keyboard in the name of Putin (and for salary, of course), are contributing to the destruction of the country.
                      It was your power that, with the hands of Deripaska, sold Krasmash to sworn partners. A strategic enterprise. And for the first time in history, a special economic zone was created on the territory of this enterprise. That is, you will not pay taxes. Here are all your accomplishments. It is you who are the enemies of Russia, as well as Navalny. negative
                      1. -5
                        10 February 2021 20: 15
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Perhaps they work.
                        Perhaps you can remove it.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        The country is destroyed by your power, which can be easily verified according to Rosstat data.
                        Demographic problems are solved in one way, which has existed since time immemorial. But now this is a problem and it is not about Putin and not only Russia.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        It was your power that, with the hands of Deripaska, sold Krasmash to sworn partners. A strategic enterprise.
                        As I understand it, this is the only thing that I managed to remember? But since the 90s, there is no way to understand who owns what and what was the share of Americans and who really controls it. In fact, how it worked and works.
                      2. +4
                        10 February 2021 20: 56
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Perhaps you can remove it.

                        There are facts other than the screams of Solovyov and Kiselev?
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        In fact, how it worked and works.

                        With the same logic, we can say that a wife sleeps with a man, but with me, or another - what's the difference. wink wink
                      3. -3
                        10 February 2021 22: 53
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        There are facts other than

                        Whose money do all these NGOs live on?
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        With the same logic, we can say that the wife sleeps with the man, but with me, or another

                        That is, nothing about who runs the plant and who has what opportunities are unknown?
                    2. +23
                      10 February 2021 18: 56
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      that is, you admit that they all work for the State Department?

                      Do you mean Chubais and Co.? After all, it was Chubais who was the father of the current government and it was not for nothing that he rushed to the States - he was sent by the one who made him an envoy
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      Already good.

                      that you can't deny it
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      Which does not allow you to destroy the country as you would like?

                      remind you of the rate of "economic growth" and what was the reason for this "growth"? - Simple Prince Salman flushed all your "growth" down the toilet at one price of oil. I hope you can't deny that too?
                      1. -4
                        10 February 2021 20: 17
                        Quote: Overlock
                        After all, it is Chubais who is the father of the current government

                        One?
                        Quote: Overlock
                        that you can't deny it

                        that they all work for the State Department
                        Quote: Overlock
                        to remind you of the rate of "economic growth" and due to what was this "growth"?

                        They have been moaning about the oil needle for years ... but despite any attempts to influence it through it, they have failed to cause serious problems in the country. I hope you can't deny that too?
                  2. -5
                    10 February 2021 20: 10
                    According to FBK, what cases were initiated? How much the Public Popular Front returned to the treasury, I know from official sources. We also know how many generals of power structures are sent to the bunks every year. Why does everyone think that leaders should be poor? Their well-being is also to some extent an indicator of success, and not just family and other ties. Minus .... If you know specific facts, what prevents you, as honest people, from contacting the prosecutor's office or the FSB?
                    Yes, I believe that in state structures or in structures with state participation, the salary of a head should not be more than 10 times an ordinary employee. as the founder of the company Bosch said: I pay big salaries in order to be able to pay them.
              2. -2
                10 February 2021 19: 44
                Baloo (Baloo, just Baloo). Those who do not want planting for anything and do not like it when they, like tsutsykov, are taught to empty themselves in the apartment, but you need to ask for such things on the street to poke your cons with wet noses. I managed to return one to them, otherwise the bitch will not allow it to the udder. So you directly discovered what they know, but there are those who did not know this and they had more rivals. They are now afraid to go out for a run and mess on the paths of the park, because they will be caught by people with lassos in their hands. Caught and thrown into disinfection. It is not proper for them to live in cleanliness and not to shit anywhere.
              3. +2
                10 February 2021 20: 42
                Quote: Balu
                Quote: Cube123
                Have you heard of NLP? The most persistent and those obey talented manipulators.

                For some reason, those who have joined the navral sect do not think, and what kind of babos were all these videos shot on, including against vaccinations? I was vaccinated despite my diabetes, age and other ailments. The first stage, the flight is normal, the second day. Think for yourself how this balabol and loafer can earn this. Each video: screenwriter, director, cameraman, sound engineer, editor, lighting, room rental, professional equipment, feeding ... Where does the money come from? Videos against vaccinations: the voice-overs are the same, articulation and sound do not match, apparently the editor was negligent laughing ... Talking heads mumble stupidly and joylessly, their goal is to muddy the consciousness of the audience. Yes, and the very question of the crown: the laboratories in Wuhan were built with American money, the Americans, the Americans worked with the Chinese, funding from the Pentagon budget, like the rest of four hundred laboratories around the world. Obama closed the topic after an emergency in a military laboratory in a small American town. Trump-Opened Funding. I will be glad when I learn that the special services have taken decisive measures against the authors of these videos under the law or outside the law, as a taxpayer I want the action to be taken. sad

                Donates of his supporters will cover the calm + he has a lot of patrons from rich people from the Russian Federation.
            3. 0
              11 February 2021 22: 06
              Quote: Cube123
              Have you heard of NLP?

              I heard about the 25th frame. Didn't you find it there?
            4. -1
              13 February 2021 13: 32
              There is no NLP, no God, no king.

              Russia needs an intelligent, sober, hard-working, non-religious person.
          2. +8
            10 February 2021 11: 47
            Do not wash yourself? Who can't wash it? Here is a video, or rather a photo with Putin's daughter (the headline says that Maria says that his father has been dead for sixteen years). And for her speaks a male voice, a reader with intonation on a piece of paper. So who is HU? I am not delighted with the current government, but this mountain of fakes is clearly spreading at a certain moment causes a gag reflex to Lyosha's supporters. By the way, I live in the Krasnodar Territory and sometimes I go to Gelendzhik at any time of the year. This construction has been going on for at least ten years. Before that they were silent about this unfinished one. There, Stalin's dachas were also wow. And not only with him. So let's talk about them.
            1. +6
              10 February 2021 12: 16
              The dachas of the Soviet nomenklatura are doghouses compared to the mansions of organized crime groups.
              1. -4
                10 February 2021 19: 45
                You lived in the former dachas and in the present. For what merits?
            2. +8
              10 February 2021 14: 55
              Quote: 210ox
              There, Stalin's dachas were also wow

              Don't you find it funny? these were departmental institutions, partially re-equipped. In the end, how long did Stalin rest in his life ???
            3. +6
              10 February 2021 17: 36
              Quote: 210ox
              This construction has been going on for at least ten years

              And it began as the construction of the FSO boarding house. State money went, and now the palace has become private. request
          3. +3
            10 February 2021 11: 50
            Quote: lexus
            Not to look, but to condemn, it is, of course, easier. Nevertheless, there are things that cannot be washed off. About manipulation - it's just about the "zombie" and the pose of the "official" media.

            There is only one thing from which it is impossible to wash off, this is the stubbornness of Alexei's flock
            1. -6
              10 February 2021 11: 57
              The term "flock" is applicable only to "who is the neon-electorate." You are funny.

              1. +5
                10 February 2021 12: 06
                Quote: lexus
                The term "flock" is applicable only

                What did Navalny himself say about the protesters? About rams and cell phones?
                1. -3
                  10 February 2021 12: 24
                  I do not look into his mouth, as you do to your chatters, and I always check the accuracy of published materials on the basis of multiple available sources.
                  1. -1
                    10 February 2021 15: 38
                    Quote: lexus
                    I do not look into his mouth, as you do to your chatters, and I always check the accuracy of published materials on the basis of multiple available sources.

                    Should these sources also warn that they are foreign agents?
              2. -2
                10 February 2021 12: 09
                Quote: lexus
                The term "flock" is applicable only to the "electorate." Such "special citizens".

                So I don't use the term, I just state a fact. Why translate arrows? Have you put on the flag of the Soviet Union and are trying to play something of yourself here? But in fact you are from the same flock, you are simply pseudo. Pseudo destroyed the once great power, pseudo and now they are trying to vote
                1. -7
                  10 February 2021 12: 26
                  I have provided the facts. Where are yours? In response, only verbal diarrhea and rudeness.
                  1. +1
                    10 February 2021 12: 31
                    Quote: lexus
                    I have provided the facts. Where are yours? In response, only verbal diarrhea and rudeness.

                    For me, someone's sick imagination and other 3D science fiction are not facts. Sorry
                    1. -6
                      10 February 2021 12: 34
                      Everything is clear, you are floundering in yours. The client is blown away - enter the next one.
                  2. +19
                    10 February 2021 12: 47
                    Quote: lexus
                    In response, only verbal diarrhea and rudeness.

                    typical cognitive dissonance response
                    1. +1
                      10 February 2021 13: 20
                      We spent all the funds on renting Crocuses for covid hospitals, but they forgot about “these”. Without psychodysleptics, they completely lost their human appearance.
                2. +21
                  10 February 2021 12: 48
                  Quote: Cron
                  Pseudo destroyed the once great power, pseudo and now they are trying to vote

                  concretize your opus, who are "pseudo"?
              3. -3
                10 February 2021 14: 14
                I personally do not know Putin, but Putin is my friend !!!
                1. +2
                  10 February 2021 15: 30
                  This is with antiquity prohibitions?
                  I understand correctly that for such a gathering, already by law, they ran to prosecute, well, to avoid hypocrisy?
                  1. +9
                    10 February 2021 17: 41
                    Quote: Revival
                    This is with antiquity prohibitions?

                    There are double standards. Bondarenko was detained and fined for his presence at the rally, and Milonov was not even chided, although he was also at the rally in Moscow.
            2. +23
              10 February 2021 12: 46
              Quote: Cron
              There is only one thing from which it is impossible to wash off, this is the stubbornness of Alexei's flock

              the sociology of protest watched? -40% came out for the first time and at the age of over 30 with the motivation "Bulk shit, but you can't live like that either." In Yakutsk, at -50 ° C, did the flock leave? Open your eyes. and you will wake up, and there are red flags on the street. It will be inconvenient to change shoes
              1. -5
                10 February 2021 13: 22
                In this case, you still have to wash up and you will have to change the full pants.
              2. +3
                10 February 2021 13: 54
                Quote: Silvestr
                It will be inconvenient to change shoes

                It’s just convenient for them .. there is nothing safer and more profitable, how to protect the regime .. and when it is not profitable and unsafe .. then they will change.
                1. +4
                  10 February 2021 14: 21
                  Affectionate pig, whatever you give him, sucks. Doesn't know that slaughter is inevitable.
                2. -4
                  10 February 2021 18: 39
                  Mishustin will be the next president in 2024 - so get ready.
              3. -6
                10 February 2021 15: 51
                Quote: Silvestr
                Open your eyes. and you will wake up, and there are red flags on the street.

                And what about Navalny a communist?
                1. -4
                  10 February 2021 18: 40
                  There are no more communists - pseudo and imitators have remained.
                  1. -3
                    10 February 2021 20: 20
                    Quote: Vadim237
                    There are no more communists

                    I think a few can be found, but their number is so small that there is nothing to talk about.
            3. +3
              10 February 2021 16: 40
              Quote: Cron
              Quote: lexus
              Not to look, but to condemn, it is, of course, easier. Nevertheless, there are things that cannot be washed off. About manipulation - it's just about the "zombie" and the pose of the "official" media.

              There is only one thing from which it is impossible to wash off, this is the stubbornness of Alexei's flock


              You made a lot of mistakes in the word "Vladimir".
          4. +3
            10 February 2021 11: 55
            About manipulation - this is just about the "zomboyaschik" and the pose of the "official" media.

            - I just think - that some of the Kremlin towers are playing against VVP and its entourage, our country is very large and motley. opinions and subconsciousness are many.
            in addition - fishing with live bait - quite in the style of the KGB and Putin (his supporters).
            getting money from the West for a film and protests with obvious failure is already our victory.

            money grows together - does Sberbank have a core account in xxx in Termania? or in Switzerland? Who has the tail pinched in the Russian Federation over the last year or two? which Western import substituted and did not buy their industrial products from the EU?
            1. -3
              10 February 2021 12: 15
              Colleague hi,
              Kremblevoty are now vainly "puffed up" by the intensified change. There are no arguments and will never be.
          5. 0
            12 February 2021 09: 13
            Congratulations on your blindness.
        2. +21
          10 February 2021 11: 51
          Quote: Cube123
          These constant flickering of the hands drive the viewer into a trance.

          Are these all your comments? Is the rest of the investigations correct? Note that this is the first time the authorities are trying to refute Navalny's investigation. And he does it very unconvincingly. With the help of pro-government television broadcasters and bloggers, that is, emotionally. But why don't they sue bulk? Where is the official investigation?
          1. -3
            10 February 2021 12: 05
            But pretend! This look
            Everything can be expressed so wonderfully!
            Ah, tricking me is not difficult! ...
            I'm glad to be deceived myself! (WITH)


            Stas hi,
            do not throw beads, you will not get anything intelligible from "these".
          2. +17
            10 February 2021 12: 50
            Quote: Stas157
            But why don't they sue bulk?

            problemma looms with the courts! Some judges no longer want to go against the law and against their freedom - Simonovsky court example
            1. 0
              10 February 2021 13: 24
              They know the value of sentences, because they are afraid to change places with the defendants in the future.
            2. -2
              10 February 2021 15: 53
              Quote: Silvestr
              Some judges no longer want to go against the law and against their freedom

              So let them be judged by the law.
          3. +7
            10 February 2021 13: 56
            Quote: Stas157
            But why don't they sue bulk? Where is the official investigation?

            You were told ... a month later .. the Rotenberg palace belongs to .. they thought for a long time who to give a ride to the owner .. But everyone knows who Rothenberg is .. a childhood friend .. and everyone understands that his hand washes his hand ..
            1. +23
              10 February 2021 14: 31
              Quote: Svarog
              You were told ... a month later ... the Rotenberg Palace belongs

              Consider that to Putin.
              1. +4
                10 February 2021 14: 32
                Quote: Stas157
                Quote: Svarog
                You were told ... a month later ... the Rotenberg Palace belongs

                Consider that to Putin.

                You say Putin, you mean Rothenberg, you say Rothenberg, you mean Putin.
                1. +4
                  10 February 2021 15: 03
                  So the trees are green, after all, "family". Everything, incl. laws, trampled under themselves.

                  Fragment taken from the movie "The Adventures of Captain Vrungel" (1976-1979)
                2. +1
                  10 February 2021 15: 49
                  then it is clear to whom to enter for the sale of the Northern Territories ..... and Crimea ...... and Kamchatka ..... and Kaliningrad and Moscow. Peter is not for sale ... yet.
                3. -2
                  10 February 2021 15: 59
                  Quote: Svarog
                  You say Putin, you mean Rothenberg

                  When the Crimean bridge was built, some of them also fought in hysterics, screaming about theft and shouting that they say they built a bridge in China, the cost is lower for each meter, etc. True, these truth-lovers for some reason forgot to clarify that in China it is just a viaduct that goes by land and crosses only an ordinary lake, and the KM was built through the sea strait and is intended for the movement of both cars and trains, which means completely different construction costs ...
        3. +22
          10 February 2021 12: 41
          Quote: Cube123
          Young people are especially susceptible. There is no life experience and psychological barriers are very weak.

          Why, then, is he giving this youth a weapon? Maybe that's why these young people are bullying their colleagues because they immediately recognize the difference between a picture in a box and life?
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        5. +1
          11 February 2021 18: 49
          What difference does it make to which bourgeois the palace belongs! The very fact that a narrow group of people live in palaces and own huge capital, and the overwhelming majority have nothing but their labor force, especially since all the wealth of this narrow group of people comes from the labor of this very majority - this is not acceptable, this is destroys a country and a people, stronger than any Americans. About Navalny, you can briefly say that he is no different from Putin, serves the same class of bourgeois, wants to change the facade, but not the essence of the system. No one is preparing greater shocks than the government itself, not wanting to serve people. Or maybe the pension reform adopted itself, money is exported over the hill, prices themselves rise, and the tariffs of natural monopolies raise themselves. And where is the state in all this, there is a feeling that it does not exist or that it is simply not ours, but theirs.
        6. 0
          17 February 2021 09: 25
          I do not know, this is his "wiggling branches", on the contrary, infuriates me.
      2. +14
        10 February 2021 11: 34
        Fake story with Putin's "palace"

        What's the fake? The palace is in place, belongs (according to the official version) to a close friend (wallet) of the king, renovation is underway. Everything is like in Navalny's investigation. Nagging only in details and shortcomings of compilation (Navalny also warned about compilation).

        Why go there only pro-government zhurnalyug allowed and only for 1 hour? To avoid seeing too much? Why a private "hotel" on the lands of the FSB ?? Does the FSB also deal with vineyards? And about the non-flight zone is not at all convincing.
        1. +5
          10 February 2021 11: 50
          This construction has been going on for over ten years. Why were they silent? By the way, there was a report from Mash. Are they also pro-government?
          1. +16
            10 February 2021 11: 54
            Quote: 210ox
            By the way, there was a report from Mash. Are they also pro-government?

            Sure. Do you have a different version?

            Quote: 210ox
            This construction has been going on for over ten years.

            About ten years ago, as I understand it, the palace was built. Now they are rebuilding.
            1. -1
              10 February 2021 12: 09
              I trace this story almost from the very beginning - the land allocation process - when caring citizens raised a fuss over the barbaric deriban of the Federal Reserve, which a priori could not take place without a visa "himself". Then I tracked the chronology in publications and through cartographic services. A lot of irrefutable evidence, so trying to justify looks like bleating.
            2. +2
              10 February 2021 12: 20
              I have one version - there are enough such objects along the Kuban coast. And by the way, why is the anal one silent about the object in Krasnaya Polyana? It was built and Putin visits it regularly. Why is there no talk about Lukashenka's possessions? AND! Well, you can't make money on all this. I agree.
              1. 0
                10 February 2021 12: 36
                Everything has its time. It is not Lukashenka who is ruining Russia, robbing and destroying its people.
                1. 0
                  10 February 2021 12: 58
                  So the time has come! Why scattered? Youngsters go home, organizers who go where. Bey, Freddie! Where are the multimillion-dollar work collectives? And what? Do the pens fail? No, we didn’t do it well.
                2. -1
                  10 February 2021 14: 42
                  Quote: lexus
                  Everything has its time. It is not Lukashenka who is ruining Russia, robbing and destroying its people.

                  If Putin is destroying, robbing and destroying the people, then this is the question:
                  1.Why did Putin raise the Army? It’s not easier for him not to touch her at all, it’s also easier to destroy Russia, don’t you think?
                  2. If Putin is a thief, as you say, why did he break up with the West, he would steal and be friends with the West as it was under Yeltsin, why did he return Crimea, so that later he would receive sanctions and hatred of the entire West, why all this. Isn't it easier to steal and be friends with the West?
                  3. What is the destruction of the people, in the 90s there was no salary for six months and a year, pensions were not paid for six months, my grandmother and grandfather survived only at the expense of their garden, the word mortgage did not sound at all, and if it did sound then at crazy interest (now there is none), in order to receive certain documents, it was necessary to stand in long queues, now the MFC and almost everything can be done by e-mail, taxes can also be paid by e-mail, the declaration can also be signed electronically and sent to the Federal Tax Service, public services where you can do a lot. Yes, many factories were closed, but there are also ones that are reopening. Yes, there are a lot of problems, but talking about the destruction of the people is not at all correct, as a rule, many see only the negative, and do not notice the positive at all.
                  1. +1
                    10 February 2021 14: 44
                    Ride at your leisure in morgues and cemeteries, and then scratch your tongue.
                    1. +3
                      10 February 2021 15: 15
                      Quote: lexus
                      Ride at your leisure in morgues and cemeteries, and then scratch your tongue.

                      What was required to prove. Many times I have asked elementary questions about the thief Putin, but I have never been, no one could clearly say why he should raise the Army, why go to enmity with the West, why annex Crimea, if he is a thief, he would just steal everything, but it turns out a lot of not docking. Everything is clear with you
                      1. +1
                        10 February 2021 15: 52
                        There will be no answers to questions in the style of a typical hen. Just "walk, Vasya".
                      2. -1
                        10 February 2021 16: 00
                        Quote: Achilles
                        Many times I asked elementary questions about the thief Putin, but I never did it, no one could clearly say why he should raise the Army, why go to enmity with the West, why annex Crimea

                        And what can they answer?
                  2. +5
                    11 February 2021 09: 20
                    The army is a great place to make money from it - from supplying food, repairing / building, etc. and in general, where does the collapse of Russia and the army? Russia primarily has economic problems, not military ones.
                    For the Crimea, we could have rolled in much better sanctions - look at Iran, I'm not sure that this is not an agreement - so as not to take the entire outskirts ..
                    what does the 90s and 2021 have to do with it? and in 100 years we will remember them as an excuse? but in comparison with the besieged Leningrad, now everything is generally fine .. You are told about the official decline in population, but you found the advantages here too ..
          2. +21
            10 February 2021 12: 51
            Quote: 210ox
            By the way, there was a report from Mash. Are they also pro-government?

            Whose NTV? Why is the deputy chief. editor quit after this video?
            1. +4
              10 February 2021 13: 57
              Quote: Silvestr
              Quote: 210ox
              By the way, there was a report from Mash. Are they also pro-government?

              Whose NTV? Why is the deputy chief. editor quit after this video?

              Not edited correctly wassat
        2. +4
          10 February 2021 11: 50
          An hour to talk about his decoration, but in the end there is not even a screed?) Is this not a fake in your opinion?)
          1. +17
            10 February 2021 11: 57
            Quote: carstorm 11
            but in the end there not even a screed

            Have you built a palace without a screed? The finished palace (without decoration) was even shown on the official TV! Do you know?
            1. +1
              10 February 2021 12: 05
              Internal screed) a. Apparently she was also ripped off when they fought with mold?)
              1. +1
                10 February 2021 17: 45
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Internal screed) a. Apparently she was also ripped off when they fought with mold?)

                The tie is also removed, and quite quickly. Trust the construction person.
                1. -6
                  10 February 2021 18: 33
                  you know my brother went from concrete worker to director of a large construction company. So I believe him more. And you should first of all ask yourself why did you need to shoot it?) And if a successful civil engineer laughs at these stupid excuses, then I definitely won't listen to you)
                  1. +4
                    10 February 2021 18: 43
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    you know, my brother went from concrete worker to director of a large construction company.

                    And I myself personally removed the screed 10-15 cm thick.
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    And you should first of all ask yourself the question why did you have to shoot it?)

                    Possibly mold. A preservative can be added to the new screed. I don’t know for sure, but there can be many reasons for this during construction. Changing the layout of communications as an example.
                    1. -4
                      10 February 2021 18: 52
                      Well, of course) ventilation sucks and mold has gone. Then they forgot something and decided to break the screed throughout the entire area. We will catch up with the compressors and dismantle it) this is all done quickly) well, we are building a building for 15 years to Putin) will wait another year))) big top pancake. They were able to build a Crimean bridge in a few years, and they are building the castle to Putin himself 15))) your head doesn't explode from all this nonsense? And then 15 damn years))) to fight mold, you do not need to remove the screed. Ventilation is not laid out on the floor. There, the level of finishing is zero. She just never was there.
                      1. +2
                        10 February 2021 19: 20
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        Then they forgot something and decided to break it down on the entire area

                        I redid the already completed work at the whim of the customer, and for additional. pay naturally. And more than once. Considering that I do not live in the richest city in Russia.
                        Here is a video that directly shows documents proving the connection of the palace with the FSO and the presidential administration.
                    2. -1
                      11 February 2021 10: 38
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      And myself personally removed the screed 10-15 cm thick.

                      So what? Added .... knowledge? belay lol

                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Possibly mold. В a new screed can be made preservative.

                      What kind of nonsense, "builder"? belay lol You build cakes / rolls, yes ...
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Do not know

                      This is understandable and so
                      My construction experience is 42 years.

                      I also had such cool objects (smaller, of course). They started very violently and stopped very abruptly for years (in which the owners were already rapidly changing).

                      At this time, the bare concrete box, yes, often became covered with mold inside (the black concrete of the corners have never been seen?): Perfect ventilation was simply not installed yet, and perfectly executed gutters were vomiting with ice in siphons and receiving funnels, flooding the premises with melt water.

                      This object is exactly like this: it was built, thrown, rotted, continued again, but was never finished, which can be seen from REAL filming. .. And the traces of the existing finish can only be hidden by the next finish, but there was none, although mold and floods, yes, there were.

                      So, roll up the stupid cartoons of your amerohosts into a tube and go there, along with the "real" photos centenary prescription.

                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Here is a video that directly shows documents proving the connection of the palace with the FSO and the presidential administration.


                      angry They made me look at this nude of a young blue sucker who was sick from diarrhea propping up from the inside: WHERE it is written in the Contract that the Customer can not sell your share to anyone (and there is a share, which shows n 3,5, and after the end of construction, it is only UPDATED depending on the contribution, but the ban on selling your share no)? This tebilka did not answer, but a hundred times with anguish yelled about "our money".

                      An appeal to the Prosecutor's Office should be in the form of a Statement, and not in the form of hysterical screams of a sucker in a video (he is not a media outlet) - let him go and submit, and not stink ..

                      And you, by the way, can also arm yourself with it, write a statement, tear her off the sofa - and go!

                      And yes, where, as in the cartoon of a thief and a swindler, is there evidence that this house ... is precisely for Putin and for Putin?

                      Again, NOTHING.
          2. +16
            10 February 2021 12: 52
            Quote: carstorm 11
            but in the end there is not even a screed?)

            I don't have a screed in my barn either, but there is a barn laughing
            1. +2
              10 February 2021 13: 06
              well this is not a barn. and the capital building that is being built for at least 10 years and even the screed during this time was not done, which, in principle, suggests that there was no trace of interior decoration.
          3. -1
            10 February 2021 13: 58
            Quote: carstorm 11
            An hour to talk about his decoration, but in the end there is not even a screed?) Is this not a fake in your opinion?)

            Well, let's discuss where what was unfinished ..
        3. 0
          10 February 2021 12: 07
          Quote: Stas157
          What's the fake?

          The fact that the whole film is a lie.
          Quote: Stas157
          Nagging only in the details

          Namely, the trial of details and distinguish the original from the fake.
          1. +17
            10 February 2021 12: 53
            Quote: Dart2027
            The fact that the whole film is a lie.

            go to court!
            1. -1
              10 February 2021 13: 07
              why?) it is already sitting)
              1. +20
                10 February 2021 14: 00
                Quote: carstorm 11
                why?) it is already sitting)

                Even the prosecutor Poklonskaya doubts the legality laughing
              2. -7
                10 February 2021 14: 40
                it is already sitting)

                It doesn't just sit. It will sit for a long time.
                The article about slander is complete garbage compared to the organization of mass riots, and even treason in general will understand the watch.
            2. -3
              10 February 2021 15: 41
              Quote: Silvestr
              go to court!

              The court has already been.
      3. 0
        10 February 2021 11: 48
        Quote: lexus
        Another "stop the thief" performed by thimblers. For everyone who watched the original video, the nonsense of the "guardians" is obvious (an eagle on the gate, like the Hermitage, the beginning of the fragment at 48:40).

        Yes, even like the LGBT community. What does all this have to do with Putin?
        1. +3
          10 February 2021 17: 46
          Quote: Cron
          Yes, even like the LGBT community

          To Volodin. bully
      4. +2
        10 February 2021 11: 58
        There really was a gate with an eagle from the Hermitage ... But in 2011. After they began to build a hotel on the site of the residence, the gates that were absolutely unnecessary (would interfere with the guests) for the hotel were removed and an arch with a black window was put in their place. Pay attention to your photo, the gate is mounted on black stones, now on my photo - now there are no stones, as well as the gate. But an arch with a black window appeared.

        Now about the coat of arms of Montenegro, this stupid mistake was made in the 3d model, and not in the frames 10 years ago, here is a video with a reference to time. as you can see the coat of arms of Montenegro
        1. 0
          10 February 2021 13: 06
          PS Sorry, typo.
          an arch with a black window was put in their place

          Not in place of the gate, but on the other side. "Arch with a window" existed before, but from different materials. And the transparency of the glass was different.
      5. 0
        10 February 2021 12: 00
        For everyone who watched the original video, the "guardians" bullshit is obvious

        I don’t understand something, do you still believe that everything is true in this film by Navalny? No, do you seriously believe it?
        1. +23
          10 February 2021 12: 13
          Quote: lucul
          I don’t understand something, do you still believe that everything is true in this Navalny film? Not , seriously believe ?

          Only confused people believe or not. But they usually do. Others only trust facts.

          There is a palace, it is standing still. Belongs (according to the official version) to a close friend and part-time wallet of the king. Renovation in progress. There is a no-fly zone. All these private buildings with vineyards are located in an amazing way on the lands of the FSB ...

          These are the facts. Now put them together. What's the result?
          1. -4
            10 February 2021 12: 20
            There is a palace, it is standing still .....

            Renovation in progress .....

            These are the facts. Now put them together. What's the result?

            So in the film, the palace is shown WITHOUT REPAIR, with excellent interior decoration.
            What is it like ? Can you explain? )))
            Or is it purely faith? )))
            1. +22
              10 February 2021 12: 26
              Quote: lucul
              So the film shows the palace WITHOUT REPAIR

              Well yes. The film showed the palace BEFORE renovation (compilation, Navalny warned about this). And now they are renovating. This was also mentioned in the film. In fact, all these "refutations" did not reveal any global contradictions with the film. But the emotion is under pressure.
              1. +6
                10 February 2021 12: 46
                They are funny and have already squeezed out what they could. It all smells bad.

                Collage taken from the vastness of the "sovereign" Runet
              2. +8
                10 February 2021 12: 51
                Zaputin's "patritots" strenuously omit the fact that the cost of capital construction is an order of magnitude higher than the cost of some kind of finishing / interior decoration / design. And what about the market value of the land? - Not even a plot, but Land tenure! (on reserved lands, go as ransom, try, this is how much you need to "give" and then not to be thrown). Instead, they stubbornly poke at "ripped off wallpaper" and "debauched park". Still, it's clear as daylight - the palace is registered with one of Putin's sidekicks. It is written down, because it is at least uncomfortable to use such possession "in one mug". I don’t know if Putin’s friends have a place there for a comfortable gangway, or something like that. In any case, the ownership right here is obviously a pure formality. This is what the bastard Lyosha uses, pinning the Putin barchuk. And for those poor fellows, it is weak to say that "New Artek" is a toad strangling, and then suddenly you will have to really be responsible for the "all-Union health resort". So they are poured with bulk for this "suitcase without a handle". In such cases, my grandmother would say: What is this noise? - Yes, a thief stole a club from a thief. :))
                1. -2
                  10 February 2021 13: 11
                  but if you do not blurt out the fact that in the film there are a lot of lies that have already proven hundreds of times what comes out?)))
                  1. +6
                    10 February 2021 13: 24
                    Well, again, "for the fish money." Q.E.D. There are a lot of lies about little things, but the essence does not change. In a just state, such a matter should not be dealt with by Navalny-Cossack, but the Prosecutor's Office, which should be on the drum with "eagles at the gates" and overfilling the floors.
                    1. -7
                      10 February 2021 14: 02
                      Actually, it changes) what should the prosecutor's office be doing? Navalro, if only for knowingly false and distorted facts.
                      1. +24
                        10 February 2021 19: 03
                        Quote: carstorm 11
                        only for knowingly false and distorted facts.

                        so go to court for libel! And instead of a court, he went to court, and on trumped-up charges. You didn't go to work because of illness, and you were fired. You shout, "I have a sick leave!" - And the owner replies: "I can't read." And fired you. Legal?
                      2. -1
                        11 February 2021 03: 17
                        I don't care about their honor and dignity at all. I was not accused. And if you were fired due to illness, then your master is stupid as a traffic jam, since this is a violation of the law. And it will not be enough for him in case of your appeal to the necessary authorities. The prosecutor's office loves such people. Write a statement and he will be punished very harshly.
                    2. -4
                      10 February 2021 16: 02
                      Quote: andrew42
                      Well, again, "money for the fish." Q.E.D. There are a lot of lies about little things, but the essence does not change.

                      That is, it is not possible to refute the lies, so you need to distract attention with loud words.
                2. +28
                  10 February 2021 14: 21
                  Quote: andrew42
                  Zaputin's "patritots" strenuously omit the fact that the cost of capital construction is an order of magnitude higher than the cost of some kind of finishing / interior decoration / design.

                  The other day I got an apartment in a new building. Naturally, it is also unfinished! However, no one says that there is no apartment or that it is cheap, since there is no decoration. But for some reason, such a trick works with Putin's palace. Where is the logic?))
                  1. +19
                    10 February 2021 15: 01
                    The palace is not renovated ... Now the upholstery will be glued quickly, the laminate will be thrown over, the ceilings will be stretched ... and I don't want to live! Yes, they will also screw the eagle from the barn into place))) The palace is, after all, not a dormitory, as some people here want to portray.
                3. -6
                  10 February 2021 15: 25
                  Putin's "patritots" strenuously omit the fact that the cost of capital construction is an order of magnitude higher than the cost of some kind of finishing / interior decoration / design. And what about the market value of the land? - Not even a plot, but Land tenure! (on reserved lands, go as a ransom, try, this is how much you need to "give" and so that you will not be thrown later)

                  Sorosets still can’t take it into their heads that if Putin's goal was personal enrichment, he would privatize a couple of factories, on his own, back in 2000, on the sly, and that's it.
                  Would grab a couple of billions of dollars and flee abroad, like Yatsenyuk, after his FIRST term, he would have had enough money to die.
                  1. +4
                    10 February 2021 16: 05
                    Quote: lucul
                    then if Putin's goal was personal enrichment, then he would privatize a couple of factories

                    Why does he need a plant? wassat When he has all of Russia .. and the Bank of Russia ..
                    Quote: lucul
                    Would have grabbed a couple of billions of dollars and fled abroad, like Yatsenyuk

                    And who would give him guarantees that his billions will remain?
                    What are you guys naive ..
                  2. +23
                    10 February 2021 16: 09
                    Quote: lucul
                    The little pigs still can't take it into their heads

                    Who are you talking to? To the confused people in every corner, the Soros and the agents of the State Department are imagining!

                    Quote: lucul
                    Would grab a couple of billions of dollars and leave to go abroad

                    Why run abroad if you can constantly grab and not run anywhere? After all, there are no 350 thousand Russian guards abroad who protect you around the clock.
                    1. -5
                      10 February 2021 17: 09
                      To the confused people in every corner, the Soros and the agents of the State Department are imagining!

                      I want to remind you that Stalin, during his lifetime, was also credited with the mythical stolen million rubles, and after his death, they dug everything there, hoping to find a hint of where they were hidden.
                      People don't change - this hook still works)))
                      1. +19
                        10 February 2021 17: 11
                        Quote: lucul
                        Stalin, during his lifetime, was also credited with the mythical stolen million rubles

                        Are you sober
                    2. -5
                      10 February 2021 18: 03
                      Quote: Stas157
                      aputenians in every corner of the Soros and agents of the State Department are imagining!

                      And therefore, the law that those who are held by foreign structures must warn that they are foreign agents has caused such mad rage.
              3. -8
                10 February 2021 13: 13
                you have already shown an arch where there is no gate at all, and even nowhere to put them and that there was no decoration in the building yet. all the same, don't understand why)
          2. -1
            10 February 2021 13: 10
            my parents have a house in the frontier zone in Kazakevichevo near Khabarovsk) do not believe there, too, and quadrics cannot be started up and we pass through the border guards of the FSB every time and what?) there are hundreds if not thousands of such places around the country
          3. +2
            10 February 2021 17: 25
            I say again, these palaces are smaller and even larger (near Sochi, for example) the coastline from Dolzhanskaya Spit to Vesyoliy is built up. Let's investigate this. And there may be Putin as the owner. And then the record stuck. And I repeat, I don't like this power. But this trash of the last six months has caused vomiting. This "investigation" has been going on since the arrest of a certain "ecologist" who was successful over the hill eight years ago. Didn't itch before?
        2. -3
          10 February 2021 12: 23
          Sometimes dogs are trained to a certain sound. Or a herd of turkeys, whatever you shout. Putin !!! And away we go.
        3. +26
          10 February 2021 14: 02
          Quote: lucul
          I don’t understand something, do you still believe that everything is true in this Navalny film?

          So even Rotenberg did not refute Navalny! I believe Rotenberg infinitely
          1. +9
            10 February 2021 14: 34
            Quote: Silvestr
            So even Rotenberg did not refute Navalny! I believe Rotenberg infinitely

            Surprisingly, the Zaputins do not trust Rotenberg, whom Putin believes ... even among the Kremlin propagandists, confusion turns out.
        4. -4
          10 February 2021 18: 51
          But what about - to breed suckers, then you need the work of a professional anal thimbler in the Internet format.
      6. +5
        10 February 2021 12: 08
        Quote: lexus
        For everyone who watched the original video, the nonsense of the "guards" is obvious (the eagle on the gate, like the Hermitage, the beginning of the fragment at 48:40).

        This whole situation with Navalny was completely created by the authorities themselves. And answering the question is stupidity or treason, the correct answer is stupidity. The Russian authorities, of course, cannot and do not want to oppose the world of the countries of the 1st capital of the world, they want to be a part of it. But here the point is also that over 30 years, the Yeltsin-Putin regime has absolutely degraded in terms of personnel.
        They can’t not steal properly, they can’t guard. Starting from the defendants of the Lake cooperative themselves, ending with ordinary propagandists.
        They just can't do otherwise.
        1. +3
          10 February 2021 12: 48
          A harbor thimblegub to a baby in the 20th knee is not a match and never will be.
        2. 0
          10 February 2021 12: 54
          Well, don't underestimate so much. In "guarding" they were quite successful.
          1. +8
            10 February 2021 18: 22
            Quote: andrew42
            Well, don't underestimate so much. In "guarding" they were quite successful.

            Well, if in the context of a multi-million-strong army of police / national guard / FSB / FSO / chop, etc. and put them to guard the loot, yes, but you don't need to be smart about it. But it is simply impossible to hide it normally and calmly use it even on the territory of the Russian Federation. Take Putin's palace, ah, forgive the Rottenberg hotel, because they set fire to the hut. All 100 billion or how many of them are down the drain. I'm not talking about foreign assets.
            And after all, the FSB, monitoring Navalny's people 24/7, missed all preparations for the investigation completely, but how they screwed up with the surveillance when they were simply knocked through the bases that other "siloviki" trade, and Kudryavtsev's "case". ?
            Take anyone here: here, God forgive me, Minister Lavrov, with his statements that Navalny was poisoned in Germany itself, either on a flight there, or saying that the Stasi archives can only be accessed through the special services, after which he was poked into the NTV story in one second from these archives. Well, and so on, and so on.
            As Gr. Shvonder said "It's just some kind of shame" .....
        3. +22
          10 February 2021 14: 04
          Quote: Odyssey
          This whole situation with Navalny was completely created by the authorities themselves.

          Moreover, he is part of this power. Like Siluanov! Didn't justify the trust and sat down. So everyone will sit down and those who judge, but later. Dissatisfaction is an objective process
        4. -3
          10 February 2021 15: 33
          But here the point is also that over 30 years the Yeltsin-Putin regime has absolutely degraded in terms of personnel.
          They can’t not steal properly, they can’t guard. Starting from the defendants of the Lake cooperative themselves, ending with ordinary propagandists.

          And therefore, the West is hysterical, because it cannot cope with Putin's Russia, it gives you money to Sorosyats so that you can scribble posts like a machine gun.
          1. +22
            10 February 2021 19: 09
            Quote: lucul
            And so the West is hysterical, because it cannot cope with Putin's Russia

            Oh, is it? How is the treasury doing there after the fall in oil and gas prices? Where are "SP-2" and "Turkish Stream", "Power of Siberia"? Did you bring a lot of money to the treasury? The USSR could not compete with the West, it survived, and today's Russia is far from a Union. Here the Germans offered to freeze the "streams", the Americans - a partial oil embrago. You will be like North. Korea to buy food from Ethiopians? Russia's technological lag for decades now, and after the trade war? Name at least one completely Russian product ...
            1. -8
              10 February 2021 19: 21
              Oh oh

              I wonder where you have been for the last 20 years ..... you are behind the times for exactly this period.
              Name at least one completely Russian product ...

              Is Sputnik V okay? )))
              1. +25
                10 February 2021 19: 47
                Quote: lucul
                Is Sputnik V okay?

                so, what is next? A vaccine with a non-obvious result, like the others. What else is there?
              2. +1
                11 February 2021 14: 00
                Well, it seems, yes, but! active pharmaceutical substances (APS) on the basis of which Sputnik V is made - we buy 93,2% of the total in China; production also falls on overseas capacities, since their "drank" .. well, yes, our invention, but the production is not very ..
      7. -2
        10 February 2021 14: 37
        Leshenka are you bulk or what? See what you want?
        Gentlemen and comrades, visitors to VO, you really do not see that the film is drawn (the gate, too).
        You wrote smart comments about the pictures of the downed Boeing and the traces of the bombing in Syria ...
        Have you lost your sight? You can immediately see that this is a cartoon, even without a storyboard.
        All the interior and the gates and much more are drawn roughly and hastily.
        And they do not deny this at the headquarters of the bulk. They just say believe they will buy and assemble what we have drawn. laughing
        1. +2
          10 February 2021 14: 48
          I give permission to you. I don’t demand to kiss my hands and beat my forehead, as I am used to. Free.
          1. -1
            10 February 2021 15: 30
            For "you" must be earned, even for "you" must be earned, as well as respect in general.
            Here Sylvester deserved "you", and Svarog "you", although I consider them enemies of the Russian state.
            And why would I turn to you to Lexus, it's a Japanese foreign car like laughing
            Of course, there is no there in advanced AI models, it is already under the power of carbon copy comments to blurt out, but this should be respected by the developers. However, this applies to the absolute majority of the bulk, from the developed over the hill they often deserve respect, and they themselves are an empty place, shkolota and city madmen. But you are not like Lesha? You won't fool a thoughtful person on chaff laughing
            1. +3
              10 February 2021 16: 05
              Even from the twentieth time, the story of my nickname and my attitude to Navalny / Putin have not reached you. These are already symptoms and a clinic of a disappointing diagnosis. Alas, I can’t help.
            2. +24
              10 February 2021 17: 03
              Quote: bk316
              Here Sylvester deserved "you", and Svarog "you", although I I consider them enemies of the state Russian.

              And how is this manifested? They don't like Putin as much as you do?
              1. -6
                11 February 2021 12: 00
                And here they openly want the GDP to change the system, that is, to change the existing state.
                Moreover, the legal path (elections) is treated with skepticism, to put it mildly. Which allows us to conclude about the violent path.
                Do you realize that although at 17 Russia remained Russia, the state has changed?

                I have already written about the GDP more than once. I do not love him - I am grateful to him.
                1. +22
                  11 February 2021 12: 12
                  Quote: bk316
                  they openly want to change the formation

                  At least half the site likes socialism more than capitalism! Are you writing them all down as enemies ??

                  Quote: bk316
                  Moreover, the legal path (elections) is, to put it mildly with skepticism.

                  Do you truly believe that elections can change something? Especially in the Russian version, when elections are without choice! Kindergarten!)) Can you give at least one case when the system would have changed as a result of elections? Not? Dreamer.
                  1. -5
                    11 February 2021 13: 20
                    Quote: Stas157
                    At least half the site likes socialism more than capitalism!

                    But practically all of them, speaking about this socialism, tell some kind of idealistic tales that had nothing to do with the real USSR.
                  2. -2
                    11 February 2021 16: 54
                    ) Can you give at least one case when the system would have changed as a result of elections?

                    So I also do not claim it. You asked why the enemies of the state. I replied.
                  3. +2
                    11 February 2021 17: 00
                    Are you writing them all down as enemies ??

                    By no means, I also like socialism more, I don't like revolutions. And I DON'T CATEGORALLY LIKE the coups on the money of the West arranged by the abomination. Is this clear?
                    1. +20
                      11 February 2021 22: 00
                      Quote: bk316
                      I also like socialism more, I don't like revolutions.

                      So you are dissembling. Because one cannot exist without the other.
            3. +24
              10 February 2021 19: 11
              Quote: bk316
              ... although I consider them enemies of the Russian state.

              and you are considered an enemy of the Russian state. How much damage you have done to the country!
              1. -4
                11 February 2021 16: 54
                ) Can you give at least one case when the system would have changed as a result of elections?

                And what harm have I done? Will we be responsible for the market?
                Who counts? You and I have about the same number of comments, but my rating is 2,5 times higher. Maybe you are an enemy or are you just enemies of the state here on VO?
                1. +1
                  11 February 2021 21: 40
                  3164 is approximately equal to 6971? How do you run the office, "director"? Eyesight, and, apparently, not only, it would not hurt to check. In addition to the rating, there is nothing to brag about. But you better keep quiet about him, child. Especially about the last spurt to the "big star", when in one evening your girlfriends, "order sisters", more than 20 thousand "prayed" or "burst into tears". Honestly, I do not care how your "boarding house for noble maidens" called the process of mutual "blowing", but the demand "for the market" from your kind is excluded, and you have the right to count on arrival at the appropriate cell. There you will sing about your grievances and talk about how you got down to it.
                2. +21
                  12 February 2021 10: 26
                  Quote: bk316
                  And what harm have I done? Will we be responsible for the market?

                  typical "Why me?"
                  Quote: bk316
                  .. even though I consider them enemies of the Russian state.

                  I do not like request
                  what nonsense!
                  Quote: bk316
                  they openly want to change the system, that is, to change the existing state.

                  Give our words on this matter. As a rule, not one of you like this has yet been able to confirm anything.
                  1. -1
                    12 February 2021 12: 35
                    Give our words on this matter.

                    Excuse me, Sylvester, maybe I'm misinterpreting your words. Answer bluntly: Do you want to change the system to a socialist one?
      8. -1
        10 February 2021 14: 53
        eagle on the gate, like the Hermitage

        not that kind of eagle. different images on the shield. and the crowns are a problem
        1. +4
          10 February 2021 17: 54
          Which one is wrong? Exactly the same as on the gates of the Winter Palace.
      9. 0
        11 February 2021 00: 38
        Bggg. Those who believe in God do not care Lesha. You and mudroom gobble up with a chomp
    2. +5
      10 February 2021 11: 10
      Quote: aars
      Nothing is over, there will be a continuation, and more than one.

      And what do you think will happen? Continuation of what? Appeals to the bulk of the protests not to stop? Duck violent will be figured out and isolated quickly. Navalny does not have the support of the People, and never will.
      1. -2
        10 February 2021 11: 23
        Depose? Whom to overthrow? Lesha is not as simple as it seems to many. That is why they put up with him for so long, and even now he was like "imprisoned" in such a light way. It is said that one person gave his word not to involve the relatives of the "family" .... wink And if it is about the essence of the topic, then Lesha-Sisyan's film is not about the "palace". The "palace" is just an entourage, against the background of which the family-clan-friendly ties of the ruling elite and "close businessmen" in the country are revealed "capitalism) -their interaction, interweaving of relations and so on. By the way, Lesha's film is, in fact, such a "light-n ...". On Youtube there is also "hardcore" on this topic and not from Lesha ... For example: "Kry ...... ....... stvo". Why is Lesha doing this? Yes, figs knows, someone might spin it .... to replace himself. wink By the way, have you read Lesha's program as president? There are many interesting things. By the way ... he is not going to give Crimea away ... wink
        1. -1
          10 February 2021 11: 52
          Exactly) hidden meanings are so easy to look for) especially when they are not there) no one spends a lot of time on graphics so that the meaning is not at all about it) there are hundreds of ways to make it much easier)
        2. -1
          10 February 2021 13: 03
          Lyosha Navalny is really a figurine, quite used by Putin and Co. This is one of the channels of drainage of popular indignation into the toilet. There was / is a drain "Zhirinovsky's canal" - has dried up, but it still works. There was a drain channel of "fair" Russia, - a complete political bankrupt. Even Ksyusha was allowed to run, - gentlemen-designers do not disdain in any way. Here is the languidly-long-playing "agent of world capital" Navalny - a man necessary, like a rhino in a zoo. The authorities have only one fear - lest the young people come up with the RAF or something like that. Here and Navalny will do. There are no ideological differences, - loot wins the good, and perfectly reduces the population of the resource-export Territory. Ideological companions, they are vigorous at their roots.
        3. +5
          10 February 2021 14: 01
          Quote: Snail N9
          By the way, have you read Lesha's program as president? There are many interesting things. By the way ... he is not going to give Crimea away ...

          I looked like Chichvarkin, who said that if Lesha turned to the socialists, he would not have money .. and Lesha assured him that this would not happen .. Which actually convinced me of the uselessness of this character. (Navalny)
          1. 0
            10 February 2021 16: 48
            What actually convinced me of the uselessness of this character.

            Svarog, he will now turn anywhere. But why do you need this shit?
            You have no real leaders on the left, but there are decent people, why do you bastards.
            Than to vilify GDP better educate a real leader with leftist views, the party is in the end normal, and not a parody of the Communist Party.
            And the people will support you, even I think that it is boring to keep the course to the left, only this must be done without a booze, we will not allow a revolution.
            1. 0
              10 February 2021 16: 56
              Quote: bk316
              Svarog, he will now turn anywhere. But why do you need this shit?

              And what do I support Navalny? Where did you see this?
              You have no real leaders on the left, but there are decent people, why do you bastards.

              Why not, Platoshkin is a decent person and he will make a leader. And we really don't need scoundrels.
              Than to vilify GDP better educate a real leader with leftist views, the party is in the end normal, and not a parody of the Communist Party.

              So how can you not revile him, if he jails everyone ... if he killed the possibility of fair elections, if he appointed himself for life, if he brought the country to the point that every year we are getting 500 tons less.
              It infuriates the fact that, in general, the socialists did not leave any chances ... I do not consider any opportunists who have dug in in the Duma as such ..
              And the people will support you, even I think that it is boring to keep the course to the left, only this must be done without a booze, we will not allow a revolution.

              Yes, I am all for .. for the course to the left .. for what would be without a booze .. But really you do not see that they will not give .. Well, look at Platoshkin, where there is generally a criminal article .. They are not afraid of Navalny. .they are afraid of the socialists .. is it really not clear.
        4. +22
          10 February 2021 14: 31
          Quote: Snail N9
          have you read Lesha's program as president?

          why read? It is unrealistic as if the sun rose in the West.
        5. +7
          10 February 2021 14: 35
          And yet, there is something strange about all this. Navalny also ran into the gene. the prosecutor, and the prime minister - and both got off with indistinct complaints, without even thinking to write a statement to the prosecutor's office about libel and a desire to protect honor and personal dignity. Why's that? And why didn't Putin go to court? Maybe they just don't want to stir the dirty laundry, which is enough? But, it would seem, what is easier - if he is clean, then go to court, show that the government is white, like angel wings, and then Mr. Navalny would have been working for a couple of years in areas with high coefficients.
          The same - oddities with poisoning: it is incredibly difficult for a “newbie” to “slightly prim”. It is necessary to scrupulously measure out tiny doses, set up a multitude of experiments with Navalny's cowards: how much will be absorbed, how much will fall on liberal hams and genitals, and how to get into the game: so that he does not fumigate and get it in full? And convince Navalny; You, good sir, just change your panties just before you leave for the airport, otherwise we will not be able to carry out a terrorist attack, the bonuses will be deprived.
          If we would like to poison it, we would poison it to death and without fear of finding poison: firstly, you can almost always shut your mouths, and secondly, it’s impossible to find a few milligrams of poison in an ordinary hospital: we don’t have mass spectrometers and specialists in our hospitals. qualifications for combat OV. Something I remembered a revolutionary song: "As the enemy did not sneer at you, you were surrounded by our own. We ourselves, dear, closed your eagle eyes." So if there was poisoning, then one of the associates tried.
          1. -2
            10 February 2021 16: 08
            Quote: astepanov
            And why didn't Putin go to court? Maybe they just don't want to stir the dirty laundry, which is enough? But, it would seem, what is easier - if he is clean, then sue, show that the government is white

            Think about why Berezovsky and Abramovich were suing in London? And they had to blurt out so many interesting things during the proceedings ..
            1. -2
              10 February 2021 16: 50
              Think about why Berezovsky and Abramovich were suing in London?

              And I know the answer to this question. Do you know that? It's not so easy to explain to me a lawyer who has been working in England for 20 years ...
              1. -2
                10 February 2021 16: 58
                Quote: bk316
                Think about why Berezovsky and Abramovich were suing in London?

                And I know the answer to this question. Do you know that? It's not so easy to explain to me a lawyer who has been working in England for 20 years ...

                I also know .. but I am ready to listen to your version .. especially since a lawyer who has worked in England for 20 years may supplement my knowledge.
                1. 0
                  11 February 2021 11: 56
                  Everything is very simple, their testimonies outweigh the pieces of paper even in civil proceedings. Since neither one nor the other had pieces of paper, everyone considered his testimony to be his strong point. If not for this, most likely it would have been a court in the Netherlands. Both non-residents disappear from the USA.
      2. +15
        10 February 2021 11: 28
        I just want to answer this already famous:
        "Boring girls."

        Not only boring, already sick and tired! I just want to answer the famous already:
      3. +5
        10 February 2021 11: 29
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Navalny does not have the support of the People, and never will.

        His small, lured electorate, but no more.
        1. +5
          10 February 2021 14: 02
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Hunter 2
          Navalny does not have the support of the People, and never will.

          His small, lured electorate, but no more.

          Across the country, hundreds of thousands .. not much fed? How many more sympathizers? Which didn't come out ..
          1. +2
            10 February 2021 17: 11
            These are, with ,, Pokemon ,, ,, did not go to ,, Putin's dacha? Is it so much fun? Call everything, Putin's dacha, especially the neighboring house? And the movie? Where is the drama then? Here I have an idea, I give it- Anal, with a shaking hand, points to the White House (USA) and the confused voice of Putin. Curtain.
        2. +25
          10 February 2021 14: 33
          Quote: tihonmarine
          His small, lured electorate, but no more.

          not true. Then why blockaded the center of Moscow, brought in a division from Balashikha and a brigade from Sofrino? Is it all because of this electorate? It's funny however
          1. +3
            10 February 2021 14: 52
            I remember that they and Kovid were going to press down with armored vehicles. Old Man Parkinson is having fun.
          2. 0
            10 February 2021 15: 32
            Quote: Silvestr
            Then why blockaded the center of Moscow, brought in a division from Balashikha and a brigade from Sofrino? Is it because of this electorate?

            You have interesting things going on. I didn’t think there were so many tumblers.
            1. +21
              10 February 2021 19: 15
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: Silvestr
              Then why blockaded the center of Moscow, brought in a division from Balashikha and a brigade from Sofrino? Is it because of this electorate?

              You have interesting things going on. I didn’t think there were so many tumblers.

              Those. you could not deny the indicated fact and became personal? A very powerful argument! The criterion of high intelligence!
              1. +2
                10 February 2021 23: 31
                Quote: Overlock
                Those. you could not deny the indicated fact and went to the individual?

                What kind of person, I asked "interesting things you have." Not with him, but in Moscow. I, who live far from Moscow, do not know what is going on here, everyone knows what is going on in Washington, but in Moscow ???
          3. -2
            10 February 2021 18: 06
            Quote: Silvestr
            introduced a division from Balashikha and a brigade from Sofrino

            And detail?
      4. +21
        10 February 2021 14: 07
        Quote: Hunter 2
        Navalny has no support

        Of course not! And due to the lack of this support, the plane was redirected, the center of Moscow was closed, a division from Balashikha was brought into the city. Just teachings laughing
        People came out not "for", but "against"
    3. +1
      10 February 2021 11: 17
      Quote: aars
      Nothing is over, there will be a continuation, and more than one.


      Yes? Will they again come out on their knees to stand up, to rebel, so to speak? lol
      1. -5
        10 February 2021 12: 03
        Yes? Will they again come out on their knees to stand up, to rebel, so to speak?

        No, they will nail one place with nails to the paving stones, in protest.
        1. +21
          10 February 2021 14: 08
          Quote: lucul
          No, they will nail one place with nails to the paving stones, in protest.

          Or maybe like in Arkhangelsk. Don't overuse testis
    4. +4
      10 February 2021 12: 20
      continuation will be, and not one

      You need to cleanse the 5th column in Russia, clean it up intensively, and return to the Soviet school, when the school was not a service, but a system that gives primary education and educates a human citizen, and not a ka, for whom the squeak of freak hamsters is the most important event in life ...
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    6. 0
      11 February 2021 18: 38
      How can he make a coup, in the mouth, if the power constantly interferes with him. Now, if they did not interfere, but helped, as this government did against the power of the workers and peasants, there would be a different body.
    7. 0
      11 February 2021 23: 09
      The fact that an outspoken Judas leads children to "protests" ... says that not everything is so good in our kingdom as they are trying to tell us from the screen.
    8. 0
      12 February 2021 18: 37
      The main problem is not to allow our youth to be made new hungweipings
    9. 0
      20 February 2021 16: 27
      The continuation is known - 2.5 years of an excellent palace and the sky in a cage. You, yes, you will be drunk.
  2. -1
    10 February 2021 11: 06
    Already straight to overthrow .. the result was quite predictable and there is no one in their right mind who would have assumed that because of the aquodiskote power will inevitably fall .. right then, as people find out about it.
    I think the goals were different. And the most important of them, discrediting the first person and his entourage .. But again it is not clear .. about them, and so everything is known .. who is interested.
    1. 0
      10 February 2021 11: 49
      Quote: Svarog
      But again it is not clear .. about them, and so everything is known .. who is interested.

      Are they still interested in them?
      I would not like to repeat the words of the famous Russian propagandist Dmitry Kiselev ...

      Does he still convince someone?
      And then suddenly a whole library, filled to the brim with folios, which one person cannot read in ten lives.

      I know some "childhood friends" and "clubmates" who have fortunes that the average Russian cannot spend in 673 years. You can check:
      The Rotenberg family is the richest in Russia, according to Forbes. The magazine estimated her combined fortune at $ 5,45 billion.

      The average salary in Russia is 48 rubles per month, the dollar exchange rate is 300, 73 ...
      The fake story with Putin's "palace", which has garnered over 110 million views on YouTube, is, unfortunately, not the only episode of deliberate sabotage.

      It is not surprising that the slandered and more than once deceived people believe "Navalny's tales" more than "tales of a happy future from Putin", literally realizing that the former will never be the President of Russia, and the latter does not even need to take part in the election campaign for this ...
      Not only that, spiteful critics from the West do not think that in our country, the president has been reset not only the terms, but also the rating, Millions of Thousands (according to preliminary calculations, up to 3 thousand) of the employees of the trade campaign, without any collusion and training (during the lunch break), without permits and notifications, went out and showed:

      and all this was watched by 40 people, or 624, 0% of the total population of the country ...
      I just want to say: not for the sake of self-interest, but only by the will of the one who sent me wives...
      hi
      1. +1
        10 February 2021 14: 07
        Quote: ROSS 42

        Are they still interested in them?

        Unfortunately, our population as a whole is too apolitical ... and reacts too slowly to arbitrariness on the part of the authorities. And those who were not interested in politics in general .. begin to show interest .. therefore, for many more it is news how our government is structured and who has been running the country for more than 20 years .. hi
        1. -1
          10 February 2021 15: 41
          Quote: Svarog
          therefore, for many more it is news how our government works and who has been running the country for more than 20 years ..

          I don’t understand why 20 years, and not since December 1991?
      2. +19
        10 February 2021 14: 34
        Quote: ROSS 42
        without permissions and notifications went out and showed

        I remember. how they drove us to Red Square for a Putin rally ... voluntarily laughing
        1. -4
          10 February 2021 14: 45
          Quote: Silvestr
          I remember. how they drove us to Red Square for a Putin rally ... voluntarily

          And I had to see how people were disrupted from work to meet with a presidential candidate.
          Here already tired of talking about some kind of popular consent. It is the people who put on the yoke of slave labor in capitalist enterprises. Are there really people in the country who can explain the positive aspects of the bacchanalia arranged in Russia? Who else will try to prove justice in social security between the "snickering" and brought to a beggarly and half-beggarly existence.
          They drive this Navalny day after day, as if in life the light on him converged like a wedge.
          I want to wait for the elections to the State Duma with ten-day voting on stumps, so that people can see and see how much they love United Russia. And there, and not long before the approval of the "permanent".
        2. 0
          10 February 2021 14: 50
          That "who needs" rally. You can pile up a lot at the American embassy with impunity.
    2. +19
      10 February 2021 14: 09
      Quote: Svarog
      And the most important of them is discrediting the first person and his entourage.

      And it is from his environment that legs grow. Someone does not want to lose money in the hated West
    3. 0
      10 February 2021 18: 57
      "Room of dirt" especially pleased - with a crooked translation from English.
      1. -3
        10 February 2021 20: 07
        Quote: Vadim237
        "Room of dirt" especially pleased - with a crooked translation from English.

        There is still a lot of joy ... look ..
        1. -1
          11 February 2021 17: 06
          Not that I myself, over time, will grow the same, but on a smaller scale.
  3. +1
    10 February 2021 11: 12
    In the last phrase, there is so much pessimism, it is already shivering ...
    Oh-c, and in the meantime:"Investigative Committee is petitioning for the absentee arrest of the head of the network of regional headquarters of blogger Alexei Navalny Leonid Volkov in the case of involving teenagers in unauthorized actions that took place in several Russian cities in January. In addition, Volkov was put on the interstate wanted list, writes TASS.
    The case in relation to Volkov under paragraphs. "A", "c" part 2 of Art. 151.2 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation ("Inclination in information and telecommunication networks of minors to commit illegal acts") was initiated on January 28 for his attempts to involve minors in illegal actions that took place in a number of regions of Russia on January 23. "
    good
    1. +5
      10 February 2021 11: 34
      Quote: Mykhalych
      The Investigative Committee requests the arrest in absentia of the head of the network of regional headquarters of blogger Alexei Navalny Leonid Volkov in the case of involving teenagers in unauthorized actions.

      1. +7
        10 February 2021 12: 55
        Yes, everyone was given this Navalny and the royal palace ...
        think one more, one less ... he only has 7-8 official palaces, residences and VIP-dachas around the country ... the prime minister has 2 ... well, and a dozen and a half for the "highest servants of the people" will still be typed. ..they don't deny themselves anything ...
        by the way, the American one has only 2, like the German Chancellor ... some kind of rogue is straight out ... if the case is "our fsёёё" ... Byzantine scope ...
        Isn't the tsar and the boyars too expensive for the treasury ??? ...
        1. +3
          10 February 2021 14: 10
          Quote: kepmor
          Isn't the tsar and the boyars too expensive for the treasury ??? ...

          That is why the people are poor .. But it’s not even the price of the matter .. but the point is, to the stake these boyars will reach .. The chaos is only growing. And the criminal case against Platoshkin is confirmation of this. And not only on Platoshkin ... there is already anyone who has a sound view and a program, and most importantly to take the throne, they are ready to kill ..
          1. -3
            10 February 2021 15: 00
            Quote: Svarog
            That is why the people are poor ..

            The people are poor only because nothing unites them, except the desire to survive. Lack of rights in relation to famous persons plays its negative role, forcing to cover your mouth with a palm or a mask.
            Quote: Svarog
            these boyars will reach the stake ..

            How long are you asking? Yes, they will go to any measures, up to the introduction of a state of emergency. These are not just powers of power, this is a system of power that gives superiority only to those close to them. And, believe me, there are more opportunities here and the organization has been tested over the years.
            Quote: Svarog
            And the criminal case against Platoshkin is confirmation of this.

            Here, too, Nikolai Nikolayevich has done something specifically for someone. After watching:

            a very bitter residue remained.
        2. +20
          10 February 2021 14: 12
          Quote: kepmor
          Isn't the tsar and the boyars too expensive for the treasury ??? ...

          The worse life is, the more expensive
        3. +15
          10 February 2021 16: 20
          Quote: kepmor
          Yes, everyone was given this Navalny and the royal palace ...

          It's like that. But Navalny's investigation destroys the staring myth that all boyars are bad (steal), and the tsar is crystal clear and flawless.

          Previously, the simple question of what the king actually stole frankly baffled many. Now there are no such difficulties.
          1. +1
            11 February 2021 11: 29
            Quote: Stas157
            Previously, the simple question of what the king actually stole frankly baffled many. Now there are no such difficulties.


            This only applies to rams: they were shown cartoons for sheep -they are happy: after all, everything is native there, "mutton".

            All rams everybody measures themselves: they themselves would STEAL, there would be an opportunity, and how!

            Therefore , according to sheep's understanding, it cannot be that the other does not steal, who is in power ... fool
            1. +16
              11 February 2021 12: 21
              Quote: Olgovich
              only to the rams

              Quote: Olgovich
              for sheep

              Quote: Olgovich
              native, "mutton"

              Quote: Olgovich
              All the rams are all

              Quote: Olgovich
              according to sheep's understanding

              Olgovich, are you a shepherd or what? Has it been down from the mountains for a long time?))
              1. 0
                11 February 2021 13: 30
                Quote: Stas157
                Olgovich, are you a shepherd or what? ))

                No.

                У rams donkey shepherd
              2. 0
                11 February 2021 22: 27
                Judging by how he hates people, he has fallen behind his own people. Now he is looking for and calling for help.
    2. +21
      10 February 2021 14: 11
      Quote: Mykhalych
      January. In addition, Volkov was put on the interstate wanted list, writes TASS.
      The case against Volkov under paragraphs. "A", "c" part 2 of Art. 151.2 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation ("Declination

      And what of it? Zilch!
      That's when the "evening .." Interpol announces the wanted list - it will be more interesting
      1. +3
        10 February 2021 14: 54
        very interesting things can happen very soon, if personal sanctions are really introduced against the "inner circle" ... then the "spiders in the bank" will start to move ...
        Well, we are already witnessing the battle of the "Kremlin towers" ...
        that's just not clear ... which of the "towers" so heavily poured ... after all, all this could have been avoided in the easy ...
        it was necessary to absolutely NOT NOTICE Navalny's return ... create a complete vacuum around him ... as they say - no body, no business ...
        put him under house arrest, as they did with Platoshkin, for a couple of months, disconnecting him from the Internet ... slowly consider the case of violation of parole ... add him another "100500 years probation" so that he would be marked for life in the cop ...
        well, we would have been drinking for a couple of weeks ... and everything would have come to naught by itself ... and continue to rule calmly ...
        no ... everything was done through ... oops, and even under the camera ... after all, they probably knew about the film about the palace ... and that he would launch it on YouTube if something happened ... and that millions of it they will definitely look ... and the people will begin to grumble ...
        in a word, in black-and-white - they wanted the best, but it turned out as always ... although not a fact ...
        if the stars are lit, then someone needs it ...
        1. -1
          10 February 2021 16: 08
          Alexey hi,
          Navalny is just evidence that the spiders in the bank have already begun to devour each other.
  4. +13
    10 February 2021 11: 19
    Navalny is a modern "pop Gapon". How tired he is, with his youngsters ...
    1. +4
      10 February 2021 11: 26
      The trouble is not that he is a Gapon or a darned Gapon. The trouble is that the youngsters are not his, but ours. And we "fix" the brains of the cubs, and do it systemically. And the state policy needs serious, and not the appearance of grandiose activity, which is replaced by the implementation of generally good programs.
      1. -1
        10 February 2021 12: 06
        The trouble is not that he is a Gapon or a darned Gapon. The trouble is that the youngsters are not his, but ours. And we "fix" the brains of the cubs, and do it systemically. And the state policy needs serious, and not the appearance of grandiose activity, which is replaced by the implementation of generally good programs.

        And these youngsters will grow up and go to vote in 5-10 years ...
      2. +7
        10 February 2021 12: 42
        youngsters are not his, but ours.
        I don't know about yours, but mine (16 years old) goes in for sports with friends.
        1. +2
          10 February 2021 15: 51
          Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
          I don't know about yours, but mine (16 years old) goes in for sports with friends.

          When a child is busy, then it does not enter his head to wander about rotten rallies. And when the child is left to himself, he is quickly picked up by farmers and bulk.
          How many of my classmates still under the USSR became so addicted to the "easy life", so they still run around prisons, although only three survived.
          1. +4
            10 February 2021 16: 02
            I completely agree with you! In my life, too. In adolescence, you need authority before your eyes. We had a swimming coach - he gathered everyone and kept them tight-lipped. After training, I would have to rest, and not jump around the squares and humiliate the police.
        2. 0
          10 February 2021 19: 23
          Ours in the sense of our fellow citizens. Mine have long found their place in life.
      3. +4
        10 February 2021 13: 32
        So the fact of the matter is that the modern state is NOT IN A CONDITION to correct the brains of children. - There is nothing to offer, except for "creative" managering (for 1 out of 10) and "voluptuousness" (for especially irrepressible and naive ones). There are 3 forces here: 1) Russian lordship, 2) Western agents of influence and provocateurs like Leshik and Dozhd, 3) well, we are with you, the fathers of these children, and we do not see any special prospects for our teenagers.
    2. +10
      10 February 2021 11: 28
      And besides, he is sick all over his head. He insulted a veteran of the Great Patriotic War. He called this man a traitor, a shame of the country and a lackey, on whom medals were attached. He has not even apologized.
      1. -3
        10 February 2021 16: 21
        Quote: Destiny
        . He called this man a traitor, a shame of the country and a lackey, on whom medals were attached.

        Here's what his follower did
        The story of the veteran's trial against Navalny is so disgusting that there is simply no desire to write about it. Actually, this smug mug, which screams at the old man, is one of the reasons why the majority of the population of Russia does not and cannot have sympathy for the current inmate from the word at all. But there is a much more terrible thing - this is the influence and "educational example" of Navalny and others like him on adolescents.

        Just imagine, the granddaughter Vladimir Martynov, 16 years old, who lives in his grandfather's apartment in the capital with his whole family, who in his life did nothing but watch YouTube, and was not going to do - “work is for suckers” - decided to “disrupt hype ”on his 90-year-old grandfather. And he did not just decide himself, but invited a whole "opposition group of comrades revolutionaries" from the same young bastards like himself. The old man asked the young people what they were fighting for. The boy replied that he was for Navalny. Then the pensioner called the blogger a traitor and concluded that his minor supporters are also traitors, as they are fighting against their country. After that, having made fun of the grandfather who was unable to answer to his heart's content, the "granddaughters" laughing at the camera several times spitting on the old man's back. This makes the teens in the room laugh. After that, the student lowered his pants and urinated on the old man, which caused even more joy in the filming of the video. Here is this "real fighter for a brighter future."

        http://katyusha.org/view?id=16068&utm_source=politobzor.net
    3. 0
      10 February 2021 11: 30
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Navalny is a modern "pop Gapon". How tired he is, with his youngsters ...

      Well noticed.
    4. +2
      10 February 2021 12: 35
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      Navalny - modern "pop Gapon"

      Inaccuracy of thought ruins us. Here you are repeating a typical thesis without even thinking about it at all. Well, okay, you are forgiven, but when, say, Zyuganov says this (when the AP-chka drove all the leaders of the factions to express their Fi to Navalny), it is very sad.
      Well, what is the pop Gapon? What we know about him is one of the leaders of the labor movement. received money from the police department for preaching peaceful methods of protest, was killed by the Social Revolutionaries for betraying the revolution.
      So where is Navalny? Is he the leader of the labor movement? Or does he receive money from the FSB? If you follow your logic, he turns out to be just "Putin's agent" behind enemy lines. According to this logic, he needs to be given an order.
      1. -2
        10 February 2021 14: 11
        Quote: Odyssey
        According to this logic, he needs to be given an order.

        Who knows .. maybe Navalny is from the category of multiholes .. and already all in orders .. It is convenient to have such an oppositionist .. a lot can be written off ..
        1. +4
          10 February 2021 18: 42
          Quote: Svarog
          Who knows .. maybe Navalny is from the category of multiholes .. and already all in orders .. It is convenient to have such an oppositionist .. a lot can be written off ..

          If it turns out that Putin's Navalny agent, I personally take off my hat and obey for all my sins ... But still, I doubt ...
          An analogy with the priest Gapon would be if a brave figure appeared in the Communist Party of the Russian Federation (or the social movement in general) who would become very popular and led a lot of people to an unauthorized rally to the Kremlin, after which it turned out that he was receiving money from the FSB.
      2. +2
        10 February 2021 16: 33
        Quote: Odyssey
        Well, what pop Gapon? What we know about him is one of the leaders of the labor movement. received money from the police department

        Little is known about Gapon, but one historian who studied materials on G. Gapon, S. I. Potolov, said that there is no information about the secret agent of Georgy Gapon in the lists of the Police Department. Who he really was, and who he worked for, there is no reliable information. And why he was killed is also not clear, although the killer confessed to what he had done.
        1. +4
          10 February 2021 18: 28
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Little is known about Gapon, but one historian who studied materials on G. Gapon S.I.Potolov said that in the lists of the Police Department

          I agree, not everything is clear here. But that received money from the police as far as I know the fact. In any case, if he is an agent, then his own secret police, or not an agent at all, but an honest leader of the labor movement.
          That is, in fact, he is the direct opposite of Navalny. He is against socialism and the labor movement and presumably a creature of the West and not our secret police (FSB).
          1. +1
            10 February 2021 23: 23
            Quote: Odyssey
            But that received money from the police as far as I know the fact.

            So far, no one has proven this.
  5. +2
    10 February 2021 11: 20
    Whoever said that the circus is over, just got a fresh video about Gelendzhik, where another blogger collects the sores of the seaside city and everything would be fine, I would not be surprised that the local mayor, it's time to rest, or even to the bunks, but is attracted by the ears " Palace ", border zone and no-fly zone. I have such a badge hanging near the stadium, with a ban on the use of quadcopters, since the time when Negroes trained there during the World Cup.
    1. +1
      10 February 2021 11: 58
      My parents have a house outside the city. 50 km from Khabarovsk. Kazakevichevo. Border zone. Every time I break through there through the border guards. Another pleasure.
  6. -4
    10 February 2021 11: 23
    Quote: Svarog
    Already straight to overthrow .. the result was quite predictable and there is no one in their right mind who would have assumed that because of the aquodiskote power will inevitably fall .. right then, as people find out about it.
    I think the goals were different. And the most important of them, discrediting the first person and his entourage .. But again it is not clear .. about them, and so everything is known .. who is interested.

    Do not overthrow, so shake.
    I don’t understand, have you changed your shoes? Didn't you drown for the fact that the facts in Navalny's film are very convincing?
    1. -5
      10 February 2021 11: 36
      Quote: Tagan
      Didn't you drown because the facts in Navalny's film are very convincing?

      When you watch a film or video, you can immediately see where is amateur shooting, where is professional, and where is studio. It is not difficult to recognize. But for this you need to peer at the shooting, and not at the political coloring.
    2. +1
      10 February 2021 14: 13
      Quote: Tagan
      I don’t understand, you changed your shoes

      I realized a long time ago that your brother's perception is not important .. and as a result, your comments ..
      Didn't you drown because the facts in Navalny's film are very convincing?

      I know so much that I don't need to be convinced .. The facts that Navalny has collected have not yet been disputed, except for the propagandist trolls .. but they, as always, refer to emotions and not facts .. And the facts are that the palace exists, it is guarded by the FSB and there is a no-fly zone .. yes, and Putin's friend Rotenberg admitted that his palace .. a friend put his chest under enemy bullets .. only for some reason after the bullets found their target.
  7. 0
    10 February 2021 11: 24
    The fiasco of the palace coup. How the "Berlin patient" tried to overthrow the Russian government

    Foreign figures are completely lazy, they have lost their scent !!! They listen to their servants, who work for grandmothers and ..... as a result, they get a BACKGROUND, because their servants are talkers and liars, ready for BABOSIKI, to say EVERYTHING that their masters like .... i.e. it doesn't smell like the truth.
    One thing is likely that after the surprise and breakdown, the foreigners jumped up and begin to work for real, like they still have something left, from their old skills!
    Those. will have to fight back seriously !!!
    No more codpieces and other cheats, but serious money in ..... where you need it!
  8. +19
    10 February 2021 11: 24
    We are here again slipping Navalny and the State Department, allegedly they are the cause of all our troubles.

    Maybe it was Navalny who forced people to go to rallies in Khabarovsk for six months?
    Could it be that Navalny orchestrated a garbage crisis across the country?
    Maybe he comes up with more and more taxes?
    Maybe it is Navalny who accepts the dubious effectiveness of laws in Russia?
    Maybe Navalny sets sky-high salaries for deputies, senators, managers of Gazprom, Rosneft, Russian Post, Russian Railways and others?
    Maybe it was Navalny who introduced levies into Rothenberg's Platon?
    Maybe Navalny raised the retirement age for everyone?
    Maybe Navalny doesn't index pensions for working pensioners, contrary to the Russian Constitution?
    Maybe Navalny introduced a special pension law for officials, according to which they receive a pension equal to 75% of their earnings?
    Maybe Navalny privatized Sberbank?
    Maybe Navalny takes interest in Sberbank for utility bills?
    Maybe it was Navalny who established a beggarly pension for pensioners, or did he achieve a minimum wage lower than in many African countries?
    Maybe Navalny raped the Russian Constitution?
    Maybe as a result of the reforms organized by Navalny, medicine, education, electronics, mechanical engineering, space have been destroyed?
    Maybe it was Navalny who forever deprived youth of any prospects and stole the future from youth?
    Maybe Navalny put a mortgage collar on everyone who is not in power?
    Maybe Navalny built himself a palace in Gelendzhik?

    Well, who is destroying Russia?
    I am not in any way naval. I just asked questions.
    1. +4
      10 February 2021 11: 28
      they'll stick it at you ..
      1. +2
        10 February 2021 12: 54
        The stick has already dried up, like the idol.
    2. +4
      10 February 2021 11: 31
      Our tsar (well, or the Father of the Nations,) is never to blame ..
      The boyars, the west and the enemies of the people are to blame
      1. -5
        10 February 2021 12: 52
        Only in the older generation.
        Young people no longer have a desire to lick.
        1. -7
          10 February 2021 15: 08
          Quote: aars
          Young people no longer have a desire to lick.

          Well, damn it! Truth-minders ...

          The desire to lick is no longer there, but bending in the spine is already visible with the naked eye. laughing
        2. +1
          11 February 2021 07: 55
          With these clubs ... and the older generation happily approves ...
          Although it would seem that millions of parents should marry for beating children
    3. +5
      10 February 2021 11: 31
      We are here again slipping Navalny and the State Department, allegedly they are the cause of all our troubles.
      No, they are not the cause of all our troubles (but they are trying to create as many of them as possible), they want to arrange the state with the help of our troubles and fakes. coup to add colossal problems to the troubles request
      1. +2
        10 February 2021 11: 35
        And we are so naive, we do not know who Navalny is and what the State Department is ?!
        Oh, yes, they (the State Department and the EU) are partners.
        1. +4
          10 February 2021 11: 37
          And we are so naive, we do not know who Navalny is and what the State Department is ?!
          It turns out 0,05% of the country's population, yet they don't know.
          1. +7
            10 February 2021 11: 44
            This is from envy. But in reality Russia is a "country of opportunities". As some here like to repeat: "the ruble will not go under the ass and the sofa", "do not drink and work and there will be success and prosperity", "work, you have to work hard ....":
            1. +6
              10 February 2021 11: 47
              But in fact Russia is a "country of opportunities"
              Plusanul, funny. Seriously, Russia is full of problems, but we have one country, there won't be another. Personally, I don't want another 91!
          2. +2
            10 February 2021 13: 06
            There are actually more of them. The rallies are not coordinated, few people want to go out under the batons, although they are against Putin's thief
            1. 0
              10 February 2021 18: 59
              If Putin's thief leaves, a new one will come from the same people, especially on the ground, this is noticeable.
    4. +3
      10 February 2021 12: 00
      Then ask one more question - will Navalny be able to solve all these of your questions? The answer in my opinion is obvious - nafig he doesn't need it.
      1. +4
        10 February 2021 13: 31
        Then, for objectivity, already without questions - we know for sure who could not solve these issues, cannot and is not going to.
        The answer, in my opinion, is obvious - he doesn't need it.
        1. +2
          11 February 2021 08: 19
          Of course, the ruling class of capitalists does not need social services. They will clean it up little by little. You just need to understand that people in power are not homogeneous and there are those who, in addition to their own benefit, also raise the country.
    5. +5
      10 February 2021 12: 01
      Quote: prior
      Well, who is destroying Russia?
      I am not in any way naval. I just asked questions.

      We live under capitalism, therefore. unfortunately, all this will continue, no one will change anything. Questions had to be asked before, when the USSR was being brought down, but now it is too late to drink Borjomi ...
      1. -2
        11 February 2021 12: 24
        It's never too late to ask questions
        1. 0
          11 February 2021 16: 05
          Quote: Revival
          It's never too late to ask questions

          It is of course so, but only to the point of this, as from a goat of milk.
          1. 0
            11 February 2021 16: 59
            Well, here's how to look at the questions
    6. 0
      10 February 2021 12: 04
      Well, you immediately went with the trump cards, they have nothing but the sixes lured.
    7. +6
      10 February 2021 12: 04
      Navalny simply exploits these problems and if they are not solved in Russia, then sooner or later, there will be someone who will call people "for all good against all bad" and they will follow him.
    8. -1
      10 February 2021 12: 10
      Quote: prior
      We are here again slipping Navalny and the State Department

      So there are no questions about the State Department?
    9. -10
      10 February 2021 12: 14
      I will not say for others. But in Khabarovsk, it was his headquarters that got on the HYIP after the first rally. And people were taken out by Furgal by close people through social networks. On a harmless walk. Purchased bloggers staged a storm. It flew very expensive to Furgalu. They did not bother anyone there, and if it were not for open Russia and the headquarters of the bulk, they would have finished much earlier. True, when the events began in Minsk, these bloggers and fighters from Ha were blown away by the wind. But about 30 crippled people continued to walk and shout loudly. Fucked up the whole city to hell. The police and the prosecutor's office were bombarded simply with statements against these underdeveloped.
    10. +3
      10 February 2021 13: 08
      You just don't understand, there are problems and theft because Navalny is talking about it. I wouldn’t say it, you see, the toilet would be warm and inflation as predicted.
    11. +27
      10 February 2021 14: 36
      Quote: prior
      I just asked questions.

      to which there will be no answer. As the leader said? - "Sami-sami" request
    12. +5
      10 February 2021 15: 55
      prior, add:
      Maybe it was Navalny who sentenced him to send not to the state treasury, but straight into the pocket of the oligarch Usmanov deductions for each barcode affixed to any Russian product? From every ruble spent on a barcode - 50 kopecks to the oligarch. This was planned in 2019. Now the level of deductions, they say, has increased.

      I think the list of questions to the government and political power can be significantly expanded.
      So they are trying to drown out the posing of these questions with a noisy story with Navalny. Ah, are you asking such questions, dear man? And even in the fateful year of elections to the State Duma? Well, you're with Navalny! Yes, I do not ... Yes, yes, they tell him meaningfully. And here there is a duped man with a mouth and bulging eyes, and instead of angrily knitting his eyebrows, clenching his fists and shaking them, ask: what kind of a prank was the renovator Khusnullin pushed through the State Duma in the form of law 494-fz, - here this man, in complete numbness, floundering in bewilderment with thoughts, is looking for how to prove that he is not with Navalny, otherwise it is possible to get shocked for nothing. And this is instead of continuing to ask the government and political authorities very useful questions.
  9. +7
    10 February 2021 11: 25
    History shows that the kings are removed by the closest, or even native people. We wait...
    1. -7
      10 February 2021 11: 30
      and he waited for a long time. as a known substance in the hole.
      1. +4
        10 February 2021 12: 24
        you have been provided with an outdated training manual, try to turn on your intellect.
        1. +3
          10 February 2021 12: 55
          His search will end in vain at the "rotten exit".
  10. +2
    10 February 2021 11: 25
    Navalny was lucky, he could become another sacred victim, he needs to be guarded in prison 24/7, otherwise the Western curators will still think of something.
  11. +1
    10 February 2021 11: 26
    I have a question for the basement fans.
    How could the film crew get to the facility that is guarded by both the FSB and the FSO?
    So it says in the video
    1. -1
      10 February 2021 11: 35
      At what minute?
      1. +7
        10 February 2021 11: 44
        I report for especially gifted USE students. If this is Putin's palace, then at no minute will no film crew, no quadcopters WILL GET there !!! For those who think with their own head, and not with a pan, this is an AXIOM !!! Have you been taught what an axiom is ???
        1. -2
          10 February 2021 12: 11
          Quote: NDR-791
          If this is Putin's palace, then at no minute will no film crew, no quadcopters WILL GET there !!! For those who think with their own head, and not with a pan, this is an AXIOM !!!

          So this is for the thinking.
        2. +6
          10 February 2021 12: 15
          But what about the doomsday plane in Taganrog? According to you, it should be protected like the apple of an eye. And then bam and there are no blocks for several million. Nobody is safe from the excesses of the performers. And I did not take the exam if that.
          1. +9
            10 February 2021 12: 37
            Quote: ALARI
            But what about the doomsday plane in Taganrog? According to you, it should be protected like the apple of an eye. And then bam and there are no blocks for several million. Nobody is safe from the excesses of the performers. And I did not take the exam if that.

            But what about the most modern means of communication recently stolen from the base in Israel? Not the trash of the last century from our plane.
            1. +5
              10 February 2021 13: 00
              So I say the excess of performers has not been canceled either in our country or in Israel. Well, about trash, do we have a replacement for this trash?
              1. -4
                10 February 2021 16: 29
                Quote: ALARI
                do we have a replacement for this rubbish?

                so for this they drove him to Taganrog, boor to replace
                But what does this have to do with the basement discussion ...? request
                1. +2
                  10 February 2021 16: 39
                  Read the entire thread. And I see you have problems with spelling proper names, I sympathize. Old age is not a joy.
                  1. -6
                    10 February 2021 16: 52
                    Quote: ALARI
                    Read the entire thread

                    About theft from an airplane, not words
                    And you have problems with spelling proper names, I sympathize

                    And what does it have to do with it? belay
                    . Old age is not a joy.

                    You know better, I sympathize recourse
                    1. +1
                      10 February 2021 16: 57
                      You can't write a person's surname correctly, that's what I mean. Or do you put yourself in a row with the president, it's funny. Although your actions remind you of the saga of the boy who survived. Only there they were afraid to pronounce the name out of fear.
              2. -3
                10 February 2021 19: 04
                Already creating on the basis of IL 96 - 400.
          2. +3
            10 February 2021 12: 41
            According to you, it should be protected like the apple of an eye.
            In my opinion, the FSO did not protect him and should not have. And if some airfield vumnik shoved an airplane with a large amount of precious metals into the far corner of the airfield, then he himself is an evil Buratino! And for fun, try to take pictures in the Altai residence, kick open the door in Krasnaya Polyana, and finally take a walk in the Northern Urals in the Kosvinsky Stone area. Have a lot of unforgettable experiences.
            1. +3
              10 February 2021 12: 57
              Are these all residences for one person? curly something. So everything is not so and not true in the film.
              1. 0
                10 February 2021 13: 10
                Maybe not for one ... Get to know him, maybe he will invite you wassat And you know, he has another palace, the Moscow Kremlin is called! There you go! laughing
                You know, like in an old joke:
                The Chukchi reads the slogan - Everything in the name of man, everything for the good of man !!!
                He thinks for a long time, then says - "I was a Chukchi in Moscow, I saw this man !!! His name is Slava, the name of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union !!!
                1. +1
                  10 February 2021 13: 49
                  Don't confuse your own wool with the state one. Now it seems that our president is not an electively changeable position, but a life-long hereditary one with the appointment of an heir to the successor. It should not be.
                  1. +1
                    10 February 2021 14: 31
                    Nothing new has been created, so they rush about in galoshes between parades and prayers.
                    1. +2
                      10 February 2021 19: 09
                      "Nothing new was created" Well, you personally did not create because whiners, by definition, can not create anything, and all the rest create in all areas.
                      1. -2
                        10 February 2021 22: 24
                        Vadik, you are our successful, what prompted you to become a Prigozhin "cook"? Would bargain their Chinese batteries further. And yes, don't whine, and don't self-harm when your signature goes public. Will not save.
                      2. -1
                        11 February 2021 17: 11
                        "What prompted you to become a Prigozhin" cook "? - What is your parallel universe generally giving out?
                        We would continue to use our Chinese accumulators. I have never dealt with accumulators - and nothing Chinese, so go treat the cabin from a violent fantasy turning into schizophrenia. "Will not save." Treatment in the clinic will save you.
                      3. -1
                        11 February 2021 19: 52
                        Vadik, you have a split personality - you are constantly lying. You don't need to treat me.
              2. -5
                10 February 2021 16: 34
                Quote: ALARI
                Are these all residences for one person? curly something

                How many residences did Stalin have?
                Most of them were specially built in different years of his life. At the moment, there are up to 20 such residences, some of which have not survived for various reasons. Most of the sites are closed to the public at the moment or are the residences of prominent political figures.

                In 1919, together with a service apartment in Moscow, Stalin received his first country cottage - the house of the former Baku oil industrialist Zubalov. At that time, the number of summer cottages was limited to one. Subsequently, their number grew steadily. Some of the country dachas were located in close proximity to Moscow and were used for recreation and work throughout the year. Another part was located in the south of the country and was also used for treatment. According to the recollections of the head of the security Vlasik, Stalin and his family left for the Black Sea for 2 months once a year in August-September [4]. In his residences, Stalin was personally involved in organizing their improvement and dacha economy [5]. Special people were engaged in the arrangement, and Stalin “only sometimes took garden scissors in his hands and cut dry branches” [6]. At the dachas, he received numerous guests.

                Large funds were spent on the construction and maintenance of personal summer cottages. So in 1951, 23,3 million rubles (the average annual salary of 3 thousand workers) were spent from the budget of the security department only for the maintenance of state dachas and apartments of Stalin [5]. And the cost of building one road for a summer residence near Lake Ritsa was 16,5 million rubles [7]. According to the recollections of Stalin's daughter Svetlana Alliluyeva, dachas were often rebuilt at the request of the father [6]:

                Wherever he came to rest in the south, the whole house was rebuilt by the next season. Either he lacked the sun, or he needed a shady terrace; if there was one floor, a second was attached, and if there were two, then one was demolished ... My mother did not have time to taste the later luxury from unlimited state funds - all this came after her death, when the house became state-owned, militarized, and the economy began to be run operatives from the MGB. Under my mother, life looked normal and modest ...

                Tell about the residences of other secretaries general?
                1. +1
                  10 February 2021 16: 43
                  Official dachas and palaces built for no one knows for whom and for what it is not necessary to compare. And under the USSR there was no such thing as the privatization of service apartments, summer cottages, etc. etc.
                  1. -3
                    10 February 2021 16: 56
                    Quote: ALARI
                    Official dachas and palaces built for no one knows for whom and for what it is not necessary to compare.

                    Well then, let me remind you
                    Are these all residences for one person?

                    Well, who is a mess with memory?
                    Or maybe an elementary trick "already in the pan"?
                    1. +1
                      10 February 2021 22: 53
                      And you can read and analyze, I really wrote whose these residences? My memory is still in order. Pulling out part of the text and writing something is a trick of our propagandists. So the palace still found its owner, is it an official dacha or a private one that is guarded by budgetary organizations for taxpayers' money?
        3. -3
          10 February 2021 13: 04
          But what about the collection of data from FSO tuples with the movement of top officials of states in WhatsApp? Or is it an accident. Even the head of the Moscow traffic police was fired at the beginning of the year. Or is it so, an accident?
        4. -1
          10 February 2021 13: 37
          Is the report over?
          Accepted.
          So where does the video say that the film crew got there?))
          1. +2
            10 February 2021 13: 46
            So where does the video say that the film crew got there?))
            As you correctly noted !!! There was no film crew, there was NO !!! And there was no filming, and there was no palace. All these sympathetic FSOshniki filmed in the palaces and handed Leshenka at the risk of their lives. Kapets !!! I haven't laughed like that for a long time !!!
            1. +4
              10 February 2021 14: 57
              You shouldn't think that everyone who serves in the FSB or FSO supports Putin. Employees of these departments should first of all serve the people and Russia, and not a specific person. The recent suicide of the FSO in Moscow does not inspire any thoughts.
              1. -2
                10 February 2021 16: 38
                Quote: ALARI
                Employees of these departments should primarily serve the people and Russia,

                And so they let the GERMAN film crew into the strictly guarded facility laughing
                1. -2
                  10 February 2021 23: 02
                  They missed it or closed their eyes. The world is much more complicated than you or I think.
              2. -1
                10 February 2021 18: 14
                Quote: ALARI
                The recent suicide of the FSO in Moscow does not inspire any thoughts.

                There would have been a single case .. it could have been skipped .. but there were several suicides .. And of course there are a lot of questions here .. and they coincided with self-isolation in the bunker ..
                1. 0
                  10 February 2021 22: 59
                  Moreover, the guards suddenly found out who they were guarding, and these were quite young guys (not old cynics, idealists), and they had what is called in Russian a rupture of the template. They seem to have believed otherwise.
          2. -2
            10 February 2021 16: 36
            Quote: Revival
            So where does the video say that the film crew got there?))

            Clear. The palace itself came to them
    2. -5
      10 February 2021 11: 46
      Quote: Lipchanin
      How could the film crew get to the facility that is guarded by both the FSB and the FSO?
      So it says in the video

      In Germany, the studio has neither the FSB nor the WZO. Anyway, everyone is prohibited from entering the studio.
    3. 0
      10 February 2021 13: 35
      And where does it say that the film crew got there !?)))
    4. +17
      10 February 2021 14: 37
      Quote: Lipchanin
      How could the film crew get to the facility that is guarded by both the FSB and the FSO?

      And How?
      1. -6
        10 February 2021 16: 40
        Quote: Silvestr
        And How?

        So I asked this question
        Yes, and answering a question with a question is a sign of bad taste
  12. -3
    10 February 2021 11: 26
    The fiasco of Navalny's palace coup was partly a consequence of the technological imperfection of Western technology.

    They showed this "factory" of fakes, everything depends on the money invested in the fake. And they also showed how a "poisoned" dissident lived in Germany in a mansion of 5 rooms, and how he sucked Bavarian beer. The fight against corruption is for suckers, and for yourself, your loved one is not corruption, but simply life with all its delights.
    1. -2
      10 February 2021 13: 25
      also showed how he lived in Germany in a mansion of 5 rooms "etched" dissident


      By the way, an apartment for him. The "useless" businessman Chichvarkin paid.
      1. -4
        10 February 2021 13: 58
        Quote: GRIGORIY76
        By the way, an apartment for him. The "useless" businessman Chichvarkin paid.

        And very cheap, the tenant said 30 euros for two months, but he did not say who paid.
      2. +1
        10 February 2021 23: 38
        Quote: GRIGORIY76
        By the way, an apartment for him. The "useless" businessman Chichvarkin paid.

        See how tumblers and adherents of the State Department rage. You can immediately see who they work for.
        If there are no 10 minuses, I was mistaken.
  13. +5
    10 February 2021 11: 34
    "Palace coups" - as in the Russian Empire, as in the USSR in 1964, are therefore "palace coups" because they are carried out in the highest echelons of power, and not by some schoolchildren and students, whom Putin was afraid of.
  14. -1
    10 February 2021 11: 42
    The Germans got into a mess in the Charite when they pumped Navalny with information ... They worked rudely and not accurately.
    So many punctures are just horror, the directors must be beaten mercilessly for hack.
    1. -3
      10 February 2021 14: 03
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      So many punctures are just horror, the directors must be beaten mercilessly for hack.

      Why flog? How much they paid, the wrong pennies and linden were poured. You don't need to be a curmudgeon in such matters. No one will smack a jeweler if the customer asked to put glass in the necklace instead of diamonds.
  15. -4
    10 February 2021 11: 48
    The author is clearly one of those who prove that Putin in the pool is Photoshop? ;)

    Those. when the state, or rather the United Russia people, is brainwashing its young people, this is normal, and when others are, then the enemies of the people.
    Giving machine guns at 18 is okay, but going to a rally is bad.
    If the rally does not support the authorities, it means that there are
    Etc.

    Everything would be fine, just look out the window and see what is happening in the country. Or when a lot of people lay down in hospitals on covid and saw what a mess there was that doctors were laid off and now found themselves without specialists, etc.

    Oh, I forgot, it's your fault.

    But seriously - it is enough to arrange such articles of FASCISM through the media, when for some reason if the interests of one part of the people do not coincide with the opinions of others, then they should be imprisoned, insulted, humiliated.
    You will split the country faster without any outside interference.
    1. +5
      10 February 2021 11: 52
      Everything would be fine, just look out the window and see what is happening in the country. Or when a lot of people lay down in hospitals on covid and saw what a mess there was that doctors were laid off and now found themselves without specialists, etc.
      The postonova with the palace looks twofold more surprising, when you can shoot a movie wherever you look, about something that really worries people.
    2. -9
      10 February 2021 13: 45
      Quote: Bad
      Everything would be fine, just look out the window and see what is happening in the country.

      Looked and saw

      1. -5
        10 February 2021 14: 11
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Looked and saw

        Well, in the Baltics, compared to these photos, it's just poverty.
        1. +20
          10 February 2021 19: 23
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Well, in the Baltics, compared to these photos, it's just poverty.

          so FORWARD, to the Motherland! Everything here is just great! Or do you love your Motherland from afar, the further you go, the stronger?
          1. +2
            10 February 2021 23: 34
            Quote: Overlock
            so FORWARD, to the Motherland! Everything here is just great! Or do you love your Motherland from afar, the further you go, the stronger?

            With children or grandchildren, it is very difficult for me to talk about such topics. As a Ukrainian, you are stubborn, you have not seen life and will not understand anything.
      2. +2
        10 February 2021 15: 03
        You have very old training manuals, nobody works like that. It's a shame for the state. Credit machines are about a credit man with credit repair, the fear is to lose everything due to lack of work and become really poor. You propose to be proud of this.
      3. +1
        10 February 2021 15: 34
        Lipchanin, I have a feeling that you have a programmer installed - a little about the economy in the country, so you immediately try to insert "about cars in the yards". And now the snow has fallen, and people are hefty rich in them.
    3. -2
      10 February 2021 14: 09
      Quote: Bad
      If the rally does not support the authorities, it means that there are
      Etc.

      Is there really a country where the government supports those who oppose the government. I was not very interested in this issue, but in reality the rallies and the capture of the Capitol in the United States, there, for joy, Biden drove 25 National Guardsmen and still does not send them home.
  16. +7
    10 February 2021 11: 49
    Well, here everything is developing according to plan. Navalny's people, demonstrating the radical toxicity of the Russian authorities, began the main point of their plan - personal sanctions against the Ozera Cooperative and the regime's servants. In response, groans and sobs went all over Russia, a great guard, everything that was plundered by back-breaking labor is taken away .... Treason to the Motherland, shoot, grind into powder, etc.
    The frog, of course, will cook slowly, but this train cannot be stopped.
    As for the actions, many criticize Navalny's people for having “merged.” This is naivety, they act tactically correctly, the point is not to take power with walks or to substitute riot police for people. The representatives of the "elites" of the Russian Federation themselves, and not the students and the intelligentsia, will gradually dismantle the toxic regime.
    Well, in order for the supporters not to get discouraged and not bored, they came up with a funny action with flashlights ...
    What to think of for Putin and K - honestly I don’t know, they have already lost everything. They will beat, frighten, not push, fine, talk about the intrigues of the West, but this will only help for a very short time. They can throw a handout to the "electorate" before the elections. If oil prices are as high as it is now for 2 years, this can last.
    P / S And, of course, such an unprofessional "counter-propaganda" as in the article does not help, but worsens the position of Putin and K. It seems that the cunning Navalnist-provocateur wrote.
    1. -3
      10 February 2021 12: 13
      Quote: Odyssey
      What to think of for Putin and K - honestly I don’t know, they have already lost everything.

      Well, yes, and therefore calmly go about their business, while the "partners" again threw a lot of money down the drain.
      1. +7
        10 February 2021 12: 50
        Quote: Dart2027
        Well, yes, and therefore calmly go about their business

        Well, if you, under "your own business," perceive the Zakharovo-Lavrovo-Peskovy, fighting 24/7 in paroxysms of hatred, telling that sanctions against Usmanov-Abramovich-Putin are sanctions against Russia and treason, then yes. I'm not talking about clowns from television and the press.
        It's funny to watch this. A thief from a thief is going to steal a hat.
        1. -2
          10 February 2021 15: 43
          Quote: Odyssey
          Well, if you take "your business"

          Most of the country's population, who look with disgust at the static error that has taken to the streets.
          Quote: Odyssey
          telling that sanctions against Usmanov-Abramovich-Putin are sanctions against Russia and treason

          Yes, yes, yes, this is the favorite song of the enemies of the people, they say we are not against the Motherland, but against the State. I wonder when it will come to you that she is no longer impressive to anyone?
          Quote: Odyssey
          It's funny to watch this. A thief from a thief is going to steal a hat.

          The thief went to jail.
      2. +18
        10 February 2021 19: 28
        Quote: Dart2027
        while "partners" again threw a lot of money down the drain.

        do not count your chickens before they are hatched. And how effectively the American car works could be seen in 2014: Russia invested more than 150 billion dollars in Ukraine, and America only 5! And I achieved the result! In Belarus, the result will be the same, do not go to the grandmother! The Belarusians look at the dispersal in Russia and think: "Why do we need such a Russia when we have our own Luka? While our own Luka will be bullied, and then the Russians will be? Let's pick Luka and get away from Russia."
        But it will be so!
  17. +5
    10 February 2021 11: 50
    Quote: prior
    Well, who is destroying Russia?
    I am not in any way naval. I just asked questions.


    Topvar has long been pumped up with bots, then any dissent flies into the negative;) Even the submission of materials always follows the same scenario
    1. +8
      10 February 2021 12: 13
      Naturally, everything is "pumped", as is the situation in the country: only now, who "pumped" it so?
      "We still have to be patient until someone is full:"



      "Do not rock the boat" ...., "the Englishwoman crap" .... "and" State Department "......". We have one national idea - patriotism and unity of all strata ... ".... "rally" ....
      1. -2
        10 February 2021 15: 44
        Pictures are good.
    2. -6
      10 February 2021 12: 14
      Quote: Bad
      Topvar has long been pumped up with bots, then any dissent flies into the negative

      That is, the majority here are sane.
      1. +1
        10 February 2021 13: 43
        That is, the majority here are sane.

        Judging by the "cons" - no! winked
        1. 0
          10 February 2021 15: 40
          Quote: Horon
          Judging by the "cons" - no!

          One can see the next portion of "fighters", then he will get better.
  18. +6
    10 February 2021 11: 57
    Whoever made a film about the Palace, it was done professionally. And it is worth noting that many different statements were made in the film), about Putin's friends, clans, oligarchs who were once Putin's colleagues or fought together, Kabaev, etc., and all disputes are now being held about the Palace (it is to be presented to Putin or not), thereby, as if making the rest of the statements true for not a small part of the audience (regardless of whether they are true or not).
    1. +5
      10 February 2021 12: 19
      It's just that "someone" reduces everything to a "palace". Like all the salt - "in the palace". And since there is no evidence that the "palace" belongs to "sabzh", then the film is "nothing". There is a special shift in emphasis. Someone takes away from the topic, reduces everything to triviality - "think -" palace "... Now we noticed there appeared" unexpectedly "a lot of" filming "of the entourage and interior decoration of" palaces "of rich people-like: look, how" successful "people live, eat and smarter .... Leaving the topic. Yes
      1. +21
        10 February 2021 14: 42
        Quote: Snail N9
        It's just that "someone" reduces everything to a "palace". Like all the salt - "in the palace"

        do not agree! This is a small brick in the reset of the rating, there will be a continuation further. Power collapses when people laugh at it. It didn't work just once - with Stalin. In all other cases it worked.
  19. +6
    10 February 2021 12: 03
    In a country where a significant part of the electorate adheres to leftist sentiments, there is no normal leftist opposition.
    1. -7
      10 February 2021 12: 54
      A Russian person is a monarchist in life (the tsar must ... (substitute the necessary)), and by aspirations - an anarchist (tired of this tsar - carry the next one), hence the eternal problems. belay
      1. 0
        10 February 2021 16: 10
        There is no need to exaggerate. A Russian person, in principle, is no different from an American or a Jewish person.
        1. +4
          10 February 2021 16: 44
          You may be friends of yours too, but have you remained Russian? Are you the bearer of Russian culture, specifically Russian, and not the modern surrogate that replaced it? What kind of eternal trust in the "tsar" and what kind of mass desire not to live according to the law, starting from the everyday level and ending with the rules of movement? Better read the history, listen to folk songs, delve into their meaning - then try to discuss this topic!
          1. -1
            11 February 2021 08: 10
            Your ability to express highly controversial statements and then draw global conclusions from them is simply amazing :)
        2. -2
          10 February 2021 19: 14
          Is that the nesun mentality - which in our society brought up the USSR perfectly, and the barter principle "You give me me, I tell you" has changed into a new form - bribery and corruption in all spheres.
  20. -3
    10 February 2021 12: 14
    No matter how the cold war turned into a hot one, Western politicians broke off the chain. Let's see what happens on February 14! It looks like the agony of a mad dog, I'll die but bite someone. I hope the FSB closed diplomatic channels, only we didn't have enough "sacral" victims. here in the courtyards to gather, an ideal place under the gun.
    1. +2
      10 February 2021 12: 23
      Here was a show in St. Petersburg: the Ministry of Emergency Situations and policemen poured the inscription on the ice of the river: "N ........" People were standing around, laughing .. The policeman then woke up, let's disperse the audience. But ... around the house and people from the houses see everything ... lol
      1. 0
        10 February 2021 12: 26
        And what was the inscription: N .... European concern?
        1. +4
          10 February 2021 12: 31
          Yes, here you can look - "what":
          1. +2
            10 February 2021 12: 36
            When I was a child under the USSR, I used to write such things on fences! Sometimes there was no firewood behind the fence. request
            1. +3
              10 February 2021 12: 39
              Not ... not so ... there (in the USSR) it was about: "milk chickens" ... And I, like: "I went and didn't even find boobs" .... wink
          2. -3
            10 February 2021 14: 21
            Quote: Snail N9
            Yes, here you can look - "what":

            Humane police, here in France they are in a crowd of hoses.
  21. +1
    10 February 2021 12: 25
    Navalny-Pop Gapon, and thanks to him, the non-systemic opposition was burned to the ground. One ashes remained.
  22. 0
    10 February 2021 12: 28
    I don’t understand at all why the question of the palace was raised. We now have so many new palaces. One more, one less. All this confusion is beginning to bore.
    1. -2
      10 February 2021 13: 53
      The envy of the losers multiplied by the enemy's propaganda. feel
  23. +1
    10 February 2021 12: 31
    Arguing with representatives of the sect "for all good", against "all bad" is a thankless task. But to clarify the positions, I would like to ask a couple of questions:
    Are you sure that the supervision of the "protest movement" by our old European "well-wishers", for example Germany, is really "good for Russia"?
    The fact that you are against the "criminal Putin regime" is understandable. But this is a negative agenda. What is your positive agenda? Not yours personally, but a consolidated program formulated by your entire movement?
    Do you realize that you have a conflict not so much with the authorities, but with another (much more massive) part of society? It's just that at this stage you have a disagreement with the authorities. But if we assume that the power will withdraw itself, then you will have to deal with other forces. Do you have an understanding that the "Putin regime" is your protection letter? If we imagine that the regime will disappear, then the Bykovs, Svanidze, Venediktovs, Nevzorovs, Bulk, etc. they won't have time to get to the airport ...
    1. 0
      10 February 2021 12: 38
      The list is short, it would be necessary to continue. Many should be put on trial. We seem to be like a civilized state, no lynching and "Maidans"!
      1. +5
        10 February 2021 13: 13
        the list will be really short ... the main thing is not to forget to include the Ozerkovo-Petersburg ones in it ...
        over the years I understand why Comrade Stalin periodically cleaned the Leningrad "elite" ...
        1. -3
          10 February 2021 13: 23
          And why did the cooperative Lake not please you? It seems like respectable summer residents, they constantly pay for membership!
          1. +25
            10 February 2021 19: 30
            Quote: tralflot1832
            And why did the cooperative Lake not please you? It seems like respectable summer residents, they constantly pay for membership!

            and mind you, from someone else's pocket, and your own to your wallet and abroad, FOR SAVING!
            1. +1
              10 February 2021 20: 02
              You will be surprised Europe went through all the accounts, who were sanctioned and found at all less than 400 thousand euros, at all Karl!
              1. 0
                10 February 2021 22: 27
                "The haircut has just begun." (FROM)
                1. +1
                  11 February 2021 06: 21
                  That was the end, the navalnenka will have more haircuts, it was not for nothing that his wife flew to Germany yesterday.
    2. 0
      10 February 2021 14: 08
      Once upon a time, the White Guards vouched for help from foreigners and became outcasts of their land. The communists received the support of that part of the population that did not accept the communist ideology, which even worse accepted the influence of foreign patrons and won. Now our left (!!!) and right movements are ready to kiss any Western patrons in the anus, forgetting history and completely losing touch with the national culture. Therefore, they constantly lose and the thought does not come to their formatted quasi-European brain that rushing into the arms of foreigners, for the majority they become strangers, and no matter what ideas they are trying to propagate after that!
    3. +23
      10 February 2021 14: 45
      Quote: Brancodd
      Do you realize that you have a conflict not so much with the authorities but with another (much more massive) part of society?

      who divided society into parts? You?
      Quote: Brancodd
      The fact that you are against the "criminal Putin regime" is understandable. But this is a negative agenda. What is your positive agenda?

      The agenda is simple - the law is for everyone, is it really not clear. The thief must sit in jail, and not in the boss's chair. The positive agenda is paved with asphalt. The result is a radicalization and it will grow
    4. +2
      10 February 2021 15: 42
      Brancodd, what terrible threats! - "Do you realize that you have a conflict not so much with the authorities, but with another (much more massive) part of society." - Do you realize that you also have a conflict with a massive part of society along with your “power”? And this other part of society did not give you a "protection letter"? - Before you scare someone, you should think about how not to be scared yourself later :)
      1. 0
        10 February 2021 19: 17
        What is this "massive" part of society?
        1. 0
          15 February 2021 15: 32
          With massive bank accounts, I suppose. - Such a "massive" part of society is meant.
  24. +24
    10 February 2021 12: 39
    the author is not time for a fool?
    Fiasco palace coup Bulk
    ?
    It looks like uh
    then the clown does not know the definition of "palace coup".
    Distinctive feature palace coups is the mandatory removal from power of the person endowed with this power formally or informally, while the institutions of power in the country themselves remain largely unchanged. Palace coups are organized by conspiracies, in which a limited number of people close to the current courtier and support the applicant for the corresponding post participate. In other words, the author claims that Zolotov or Patrushev, or perhaps Kiriyenko, are making a palace coup with the hands of Navalny? Rave.
    You don't have to read this stuff further.
    1. +4
      10 February 2021 13: 10
      Sylvester hi ,
      but how the "consequences of optimization" of specialized medical institutions were excited. That's what the calculation is for.
    2. +2
      10 February 2021 14: 23
      Quote: Silvestr
      In other words, the author claims that Zolotov or Patrushev, or perhaps Kiriyenko, are making a palace coup with the hands of Navalny? Rave.

      I heard on YouTube the opinion that Potanin sponsored Navalny .. for which he received a huge fine .. but not personally, but some kind of deputy, was caught doing this.
      1. +19
        10 February 2021 14: 40
        Quote: Svarog
        I heard in YouTube the opinion that Potanin sponsored Navalny .. for which he received a huge fine ..

        A fine of $ 2 billion for cases almost a year old. This is so unexpected! There were also state commissions and proceedings, and then Potanin was awarded a shish and a little ... And then suddenly this! It looks like a punishment (not for the environment).
        1. +2
          10 February 2021 14: 45
          Quote: Stas157
          It looks like a punishment (not for the environment).

          Yes, for this very reason, I was interested in this version .. Considering how our affairs are done and justice is administered, it looks very much like the truth .. But if so, then Potanin is clearly not alone ..
        2. -1
          10 February 2021 19: 23
          He himself said that he would pay everything that was required - so they gave him 146 billion rubles, and this story has nothing to do with Navalny, and there is a warning that any business will now eliminate all its ecological and man-made shoals exclusively at its own expense.
          1. +17
            11 February 2021 12: 24
            Quote: Vadim237
            any business all its ecological and technogenic shoals now will be eliminate exclusively at your own expense

            Are you deceiving yourself or are you misleading the public?))
            1. -1
              11 February 2021 17: 15
              No, I am stating a fact - the environmentalist has now started to work hard for a fig what kind of business.
    3. +1
      10 February 2021 15: 44
      It was simply not smart enough to put "palace" in quotation marks. Because Dvortsovy is about the Kremlin, not about the Black Sea estate.
  25. +4
    10 February 2021 12: 44
    Navalny certainly cooperates with the special services, and probably not only with the Western ones. I think our interested people are leaking information to him.
    But it seems to me that the main thing is different, why do we a priori believe that everything he does is a lie and a desire to rock the "galley"? Didn't our managers, led by Putin, prove who they really are and what their main goal is? Under the guise of patriotic propaganda, clinging to power, they are slowly taking our country to the hated west.
    Calling for sanctions against Russia is definitely a betrayal.
    Call for sanctions against Russian thieves - no.
  26. +6
    10 February 2021 12: 58
    Quote: GRIGORIY76
    But it seems to me that the main thing is different, why we a priori believe that everything he does is a lie

    Well, probably because they (the curators of the cash) did it before Putin and will do it after Putin. They were not satisfied with imperial Russia, communist Russia, Russia today and Russia will not suit them tomorrow. Perhaps Russia suited Yeltsin. Well, for such a Russia their agents work ...
    1. -3
      10 February 2021 13: 48
      1/6 of the land is not theirs, so they rage? And they will rage until they get it over their ears, and in 50 years they will start over again.
    2. +20
      10 February 2021 15: 56
      Quote: Brancodd
      Perhaps Russia suited Yeltsin.

      Now there is that very Russia of Yeltsin. And in order to create continuity, the drunk left his successor. And he did not disappoint him! The oligarchs have grown wildly. Such a number of billionaires against the background of the poor population of EBNu never dreamed of!
  27. +4
    10 February 2021 12: 58
    "But then there will be more sabotage and provocations" (c) Or maybe in another way "there will be more revelations"
    We have already gotten to talk about the defectiveness of the opposition and how it uses minors.
    The protests are not only for the release of Navalny. First of all, protests are a call to the authorities for dialogue, and the authorities do not want to see this point blank.
    Joke.
    Little Johnny as the real name of Lenin?
    Ulyanov.
    That's right, but the real name of Troitsky
    Bronstein.
    That's right, but what about Putin?
    Really Rotenberg?
    Do not fall for provocations!
  28. -7
    10 February 2021 12: 59
    I don't know who tried to "overthrow", but the "Berlin patient" was released too early. The psychiatrists did not heal him.
  29. for
    +4
    10 February 2021 13: 20

    Another version of the "palace".
    It seems EVERYONE is lying! And bulk and MASH! and power
    Most of all, passivity and late reaction to such "revelations" infuriate.
    That Rotenberg could not immediately say that this was his hut.
    Why don't they sue for libel. This could have been fixed years ago.

    NAVALNY the same opposition as the Liberal Democratic Party, Communist Party of the Russian Federation, cn, these are passive, but he is active.
    And has their "ep".
  30. -1
    10 February 2021 13: 23
    Quote: Stas157
    Fake story with Putin's "palace"

    What's the fake? The palace is in place, belongs (according to the official version) to a close friend (wallet) of the king, renovation is underway. Everything is like in Navalny's investigation. Nagging only in details and shortcomings of compilation (Navalny also warned about compilation).

    Why go there only pro-government zhurnalyug allowed and only for 1 hour? To avoid seeing too much? Why a private "hotel" on the lands of the FSB ?? Does the FSB also deal with vineyards? And about the non-flight zone is not at all convincing.

    Explain why Putin, who is now 68 years old, will leave power, he will be over 70, industrial vineyards, a winery? The Russian south will never have the microclimate of France, Italy or the north of Tunisia, for example. Grapes in Russia will always lose, make cheap wine, that is, a business as usual, why? High quality wine will not come out. We took in October last year in Vityazevo, in a company store, it is a little more decent than others, Tsimlyansky black wine - Fanagoria. Medium price category. My wife and I could not finish drinking, although they tried hard for a couple of days, poured it out. In Pyaterochka, we buy wine at a discount, for the same price, without a discount of 400-700 rubles, an order of magnitude better.
    Therefore, the question is, why does Putin need this, will he run this business at the age of 70, without doing this before?
    1. 0
      10 February 2021 13: 51
      Anyone else, but I want dry Argentinean, especially pink. In 2019, my wine was "Bomba".
    2. +9
      10 February 2021 14: 25
      Quote: ALSur
      Explain why Putin, who is now 68 years old, will leave power, he will be over 70, industrial vineyards, a winery?

      He has a lot of children .. and he himself apparently feels great ..
    3. +25
      10 February 2021 14: 51
      Quote: ALSur
      Explain why Putin needs

      Explain why Putin deprived old people of their pensions? Why did I reset the Constitution and reset it myself? Why did you make your mediocre buddies billionaires? Why does the ruble drop below the plinth? Yes, I have thousands of questions for him!
    4. -1
      10 February 2021 15: 14
      A person can afford it, why not, who can not say. We live once, I didn't have that. Explained? Or read Gobsec Honore de Balzac there is also described why.
  31. -7
    10 February 2021 14: 53
    Quote: Svarog
    Quote: Tagan
    I don’t understand, you changed your shoes

    I realized a long time ago that your brother's perception is not important .. and as a result, your comments ..
    Didn't you drown because the facts in Navalny's film are very convincing?

    I know so much that I don't need to be convinced .. The facts that Navalny has collected have not yet been disputed, except for the propagandist trolls .. but they, as always, refer to emotions and not facts .. And the facts are that the palace exists, it is guarded by the FSB and there is a no-fly zone .. yes, and Putin's friend Rotenberg admitted that his palace .. a friend put his chest under enemy bullets .. only for some reason after the bullets found their target.

    Don’t fidget like that. My perception is enough with my head to understand where you are dissembling, where you blame the fan)))
  32. +11
    10 February 2021 14: 56
    Quote: 210ox
    This construction has been going on for at least ten years. Before that they were silent about this unfinished one.

    They were not silent. Back in 2013, four employees of the Gelendzhik Human Rights Center were sentenced to terms ranging from 8 to 13 years for attempting to investigate, they were accused of attacking security guards. Environmentalist Gazaryan was forced to emigrate. V. Ivanov received 13 years, Achilov 11 years, Avanesyan and Semergei 8 years.
  33. 0
    10 February 2021 16: 27
    110 million views is already cash in the box office
    1. -3
      11 February 2021 10: 55
      Please give me a moment where the advertisement is inserted, I missed something.
      Hint, YouTube pays for ad views.
      1. -1
        11 February 2021 18: 40
        And who said that in this case YouTube pays? There must be some other "advertisers" ...
  34. +1
    10 February 2021 16: 35
    It would be better if they healed his head in Berlin instead of the tongue.
    1. +18
      10 February 2021 19: 33
      Quote: NF68
      It would be better if they healed his head in Berlin instead of the tongue.

      heads need to be treated in the Kremlin, tsutswang
  35. -3
    10 February 2021 18: 35
    Quote: Stas157
    Yes, I have thousands of questions for him!

    For these questions, is it necessary to solidarize with the German special services, and with the "opposition Fuhrer"?
  36. 0
    10 February 2021 18: 42
    Quote: andrew42
    Before you scare someone, you should think about how not to be scared yourself later

    Are you bulls, bulk, nevzorov or svanidze? Or will you carry the suitcase to the airport? Not? Well then, don't worry about this "massive part of society ..."
  37. +4
    10 February 2021 19: 23
    Everything within the military concept of Colonel Warden "Five Rings". The first phase is undermining the target country from within. Doesn't come out yet. It didn’t work with belolentochniki, it didn’t work with Azerbaijanis (they killed a Russian in Moscow), and so on ... Now, with a Berlin patient, it doesn’t work out ... And this is not the last provocation. They won't stop until we take Fushington. One hundred percent. 40th - 41st years. Everyone knows that the war will certainly happen, but everyone believes that it will not happen soon. The cat cried out for new weapons in the troops. And we continue to help everyone. The Nazis drove echelons of wheat - the United States drove rare earth metals, rocket engines, etc.
  38. +2
    10 February 2021 19: 40
    Suddenly a magician will arrive in a blue helicopter and show a free movie, this is about Navalny,
  39. +3
    10 February 2021 19: 50
    Another cry of the next stupid putinoid, they (putinoids), for the most part, like other citizens of Russia, were robbed "pulled on a voucher", and they continue to launder this dirty justified regime, against the background of a complete collapse of the country's economy, against the background of a nationwide fundraising for treatment of sick children, on the one hand, and the construction of vineyards and palaces with funds clearly not earned by honest labor, on the other hand, a retirement age was added to everyone amid rising prices, lower wages and widespread unemployment, no matter who helped Navalny make the film, the truth is important there or no, in the film the names of the "attendances, addresses and bank accounts" of corrupt officials were openly named, logically they, as "honest" people, should act in refutation of "Navalny's delirium", however, apart from the fake film, with some incomprehensible construction site not tied to place, and Putin's words "this is not mine" is nothing, but this is enough for all sorts of whoopers and troubadours to drool and snot, about disinterestedness and these whistles do not explain the lack of silver in the authorities, only where do the crowds of billionaires come from, against the background of the mass impoverishment of the population. The bulk of people went out into the streets not for Navalny, but against the criminal regime of power, when a normal person cannot find the truth either in the police or in court, when it is impossible to find a decent job not only for a person of pre-retirement age, but also for young people, in big cities this problem is still somehow smoothed out, but in the provincial cities there is a complete legal and economic chaos. And all this rot surfaced under "our" current God-fearing President, although the Lord gave the order "Do not steal" in due time, but this probably does not concern our king.
  40. +6
    10 February 2021 20: 43
    Regardless of Navalny's personality itself, we can say that he is still right.
    Of course, the palace belongs to the first persons (person) of the Russian Federation. In fact, it doesn't matter - the president or his servants, the main thing is that this object cannot be private.
    And for this it is enough just to listen to Rotenberg's interview and not even watch the film.

    He himself says that this is an apart-hotel, i.e. super luxury hotel with a small number of rooms. With investments in such a hotel of tens or even 100 billion rubles, and annual additional spending on the maintenance of a huge territory - rent, private security companies, etc., and given the fact that there is not even a private beach there (!), This is just a suicidal business. There can be no such "hotels", since a week or two of rest there must cost hundreds of millions of rubles to recoup investments.
  41. +2
    10 February 2021 20: 49
    Hiring Western imperialism Lehu - for a stake! All to the defense Putin's palace Aparthotel Rotenberg!
    That's just
    1. +5
      10 February 2021 22: 06
      Quote: Karabin
      That's just

      It's not hard to understand people.
      1) "People of Serfdom-Real dogs sometimes". The authorities of the Russian Federation have many servants, from informational prostitutes to ordinary prostitutes. In the conditions of life in the Russian Federation, for many, this is the only source of income and often a good source. There is a wide range of people - from university rectors who were given the opportunity to set themselves huge salaries to Prigozhin's bots working for a penny. All these people will lose to one degree or another when the regime falls. The Soviet government will come, in general, it will make it work, which is terrible, Navalny will come, it is not so scary, you can change the owner, but many are so dirty that others will take their place.
      2) Especially we have a lot of "internal security officials" Here it is quite simple - you live in some conditional Bezhetsk: there is no work, if there is a salary of 15-20 thousand, everyone runs away from there. In general, ordinary life in the Russian Federation. And then he went to the police / national guard, etc. -t a salary of 40-50, a preferential mortgage and a pension at 45. Taking into account the upbringing, die today you, and tomorrow I, very many go with pleasure. So what if the palaces and you are dust under your feet for Putin-Abramovich. As long as there is ration, and okay. They will beat people with pleasure. And how many "veterans" of this movement, family members, etc. are there.
      Yes, this is parasitism, but they have something to do with that ... Money pays, and okay.
      3) Seniors and people with a TV instead of a head. You don't even need to explain anything here.
      1. -3
        10 February 2021 23: 02
        Quote: Odyssey
        The authorities of the Russian Federation have a lot of servants - from informational prostitutes to ordinary prostitutes

        A representative of Navalny's oldest profession is speaking.
    2. -4
      10 February 2021 23: 04
      Quote: Karabin
      That's just

      But this nagging is repeated every time someone wants to destroy the country. We know we swam.
  42. +2
    10 February 2021 20: 54
    I have not and I will not. Cartoon for children.
  43. +2
    10 February 2021 21: 34
    Quote: Silvestr
    The agenda is simple - the law is for everyone, is it really not clear. A thief should sit in jail

    He sat down and I hope there will be no more exceptions "with two suspended sentences."
  44. -2
    10 February 2021 22: 03
    But it is very likely that this is a clumsy translation of the word mudroom - hallway. That is, the originally English-language text for the film was simply very unprofessionally translated into Russian. And they passed it off for the president's lordly manners.

    As follows from the film, the architect is an Italian, probably the project was originally written in Italian or English, and someone somehow translated all this for Russian-speaking builders.
    The hallway is not a mudroom:
    hallway noun f
    hallway, vestibule, anteroom, antechamber
    (corridor, lobby)
    lobby, foyer
    (hall, foyer)

    Mudroom is a rare word. Direct translation - dirty room. As you can understand from a Google search, this can mean some kind of "back" room for storing old shoes, garden tools, household cleaning supplies, which can be a separate "nook", and a walk-through room to the rear exit to the garden or garden behind home from a typical American cottage. On the plan of the palace shown by Navalny, this is a separate room with one entrance from INSIDE the building. So this is not a hallway: there is no exit to the street from it. And not the fact that it is translated back into English as mudroom.
    1. -3
      11 February 2021 11: 12
      Where did it come from that this is some kind of translation? The project was drawn up by OOO STROYGAZKOMPLEKT in accordance with local GOST standards.
      There are all kinds of SPA around the room, it is quite logical that there will be some kind of warehouse for materials (dirt), and this is not a hallway at all.
      1. -2
        11 February 2021 13: 16
        It can also be therapeutic mud - there are some, in some sanatoriums they have fun with it.
  45. +2
    10 February 2021 22: 35
    The fiasco of Navalny's palace coup was partly a consequence of the technological imperfection of Western technology.

    And what does the palace have to do with it, whoever it is. The impression is that the script is written, already from London, by an expert on color revolutions in Ukraine - Yuriy Lutsenko. No wonder, oh no wonder the British sheltered him. He knows our mentality, than to blur people's eyes ...

    And if in essence:
    "Why is any rational, honest person sure that Alexei Navalny is a political agent of the US intelligence services?"

    Because the political position of Navalny and the liberals on all key issues coincides with the position of the US State Department and the CIA.

    1. Like the US CIA, Navalny considers the reunification of Crimea with Russia to be illegal.

    2. Like the US CIA, Navalny considers the Ukrainian government after the 2014 coup d'etat to be legal and democratic.

    3. Like the US CIA, Navalny believes that there is no suppression of the Russian language in Ukraine.

    4. Like the US CIA, Navalny believes that in Ukraine there is no problem of neo-Nazis actively cooperating with the authorities and receiving money from the state.

    5. Like the US CIA, Navalny believes that in Ukraine there is no problem of attempts to forcefully split Orthodoxy by the state.

    6. Like the US CIA, Navalny believes that there is no problem of mass arrests, torture, suppression of any activity in the direction of friendship with Russia in Ukraine.

    7. Like the US CIA, Navalny believes that Ukraine does not have a problem of suppressing the memory of Victory in the Great Patriotic War.

    8. Like the US CIA, Navalny believes that in Ukraine there is no problem of total falsification of history in order to sublimate hatred towards Russia.

    These points would already be enough to consider Navalny a political agent of the US CIA. But Navalny adds more points.

    9. Like the US CIA, Navalny believes that in Latvia and Estonia there is no problem of suppression of the Russian language, Orthodoxy and Russian identity.

    10. Like the US CIA, Navalny believes that Russia must withdraw from Syria.

    11. Like the US CIA, Navalny believes that the government of Belarus is bad because it is an ally and in friendship with Russia. Together they, the US CIA and Navalny accuse Lukashenka of dictatorship.

    12. Like the US CIA, Navalny believes that sanctions against Russia are good.

    13. Alexey Navalny has never been in the ranks of the Immortal Regiment.

    Therefore, the conclusion is unambiguous - the US CIA and Navalny take a single political position. Thinking this is a coincidence is a gimmick. In fact, everyone understands that Alexei Navalny is a political agent of the US intelligence services.
    He is not ours, a stranger. "

    Lyricist: Segrey S
    from comments to articles of the Internet resource "Vzglyad"
  46. 0
    10 February 2021 22: 59
    Quote: Overlock
    How does an American car work effectively?

    Guaido ????
  47. +6
    11 February 2021 05: 16
    A liberal stockyard is a transitional state from man to animal or even demon. That is, it looks still homo, but far from sapiens. On February 5, we saw a non-human who sneered at the veteran and at the millions of our ancestors who gave their lives in battles against the universal evil. Now there are already many of us like that.
  48. -2
    11 February 2021 06: 48
    As the topic caught on. For the 3rd or 4th time already trying to splash saliva, keep up with the nightingale.
    The video mash is a ridiculous attempt to justify itself, after which the deputy editor sent this mesh away.
    The FSB's excuses about the no-fly zone are just as ridiculous.
    Did Arkady pay the tax for the palace and indicated himself in the declaration?
  49. +1
    11 February 2021 10: 24
    Most likely Navalny is more a patient of a psychiatric hospital than a Berlin one. Dementia is the lot of all traitors to the Russian Empire, the USSR and the Russian Federation !!! And also the opposition.
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  50. +1
    11 February 2021 12: 35
    The same "Putin's Palace". It is still under construction. Photo: mash / Youtube



    German cinema

    I would not like to repeat the words of the famous Russian propagandist Dmitry Kiselev, but the German film about "Putin's palace" is a real foreign sabotage.


    Where are the quotes from ?? Or is there no palace ?? Sabotage is that the Germans built a palace
    Or, who pulled out a short list, Rotenberg did not admit it?
    Ahh .. it must be simple coincidence another .. that Putin's palace was owned by his best friend .. Or - as that same Kiselev says there ??)
    Apparently, for some "personalities" the only evidence can be a record in Rosreestr, where Putin's surname is indicated .. plus his personal confession on camera .. And even then they will not believe .. they will again accuse the Germans ..

    The building is, of course, completed. But the interior decoration is still at the zero level. More precisely, there is nothing there at all. Except for concrete ceilings, walls and floors. The cognitive dissonance that occurs thereafter is difficult to describe.

    What then was Navalny filming if the palace was still at this stage of unfinished construction?

    So I had to watch the movie more attentively .. and not ask stupid questions ..
    Nobody even claimed that the interior decoration exists ..
    Under this case, they are now trying to pretend that there is no palace either ..))

    Of course, now nobody really needs it ... they wanted to build it when they didn't think they would sit in the chair forever .. That's why they are building according to the principle - do not demolish now ..

    shl. only a narrow-minded person would believe that businessman Rottenberg has been building a hotel for 20 years .. and will finish building another 20 years .. Such is the "business" of a person ..))
    1. -1
      11 February 2021 20: 59
      So I had to watch the movie more attentively .. and not ask stupid questions ..
      Nobody even claimed that the interior decoration exists ..
      Under this case, they are now trying to pretend that there is no palace either ..))


      And at the same time he gave the photo of a Polish church to Putin's library? :) Navalny's main argument is that none of the businessman's houses have a no-fly zone. But not far from the "palace" there is an FSB frontier post. Maybe there is a no-fly zone above it? Or if Lesha said, then it’s true, but when the FSB says, they are all-Jews? :)
      1. +1
        12 February 2021 09: 38
        And at the same time he gave the photo of a Polish church to Putin's library? :)

        Chukchi is not a reader, Chukchi is a writer ..))
        So I had to watch the movie more attentively .. and not ask stupid questions ..


        Navalny's main argument is that none of the businessman's houses have a no-fly zone.
        Yes, there are arguments above the roof ..
        Not a single businessman will build a hotel for 20 years (which is not suitable for a hotel either), and then finish it for another 20 years .. I'll tell you this without Navalny .. And in 2000 Arkasha was not a businessman so that somewhere then in the forest suddenly to conceive such a mega-project .. It did not bite him .., as they say ..
        Well, the chain of friends and relatives is quite clearly visible in the film ..
        But not everyone in our country knows who, for example, Churov is ... how he got into the Central Election Commission, etc.

        Only not far from the "palace" there is an FSB border post. Maybe there is a no-fly zone above it?

        That outpost is a thousand years old ..
        Googled when the no-fly zone appeared ..

        Or if Lesha said, then it’s true, but when the FSB says, they are all-Jews?
        Indeed, everyone can lie .. Because you have to think with your head ..
        After all, at one time, I also believed in Putin .. And for a long time I believed very much .. for many years !!
        And it's not my fault that he ended up being a liar ..
        And Navalny is nobody for me .. purely for the outlook to look / listen .. And somehow from him I have met less real lies !!

        PS .. I understand that you sincerely would like to connect the no-fly zone with the outpost .. and consider the palace not a palace, but a hotel .. and not Putin, but Rottenberg ..
        Just coincidences like this ..))
        Not Lionel Messi suddenly turned out to be the owner .. but the best sidekick ..
        Coincidence..))
        1. -1
          13 February 2021 14: 25
          Yes, there are arguments above the roof ..

          Which ones? :) From the series Alyosha said so? :) Strong arguments of course ...

          That outpost is a thousand years old ..
          Googled when the no-fly zone appeared ..


          AND??? The necessity appeared - it was done. All the same, the outpost exists right? :)

          Indeed, everyone can lie .. Because you have to think with your head ..
          And Navalny is nobody for me .. purely for the outlook to look / listen .. And somehow from him I have met less real lies !!

          Well, of course, of course :) A person who was an advisor to the governor for a LONG TIME, who was imprisoned for corruption, then for a long time headed the Foundation for Support of this governor and which, then opened, here's the irony - the Anti-Corruption Foundation cannot lie by definition! :))
          Can you explain why a private clinic in Germany was treating Navalny for free? Or maybe someone paid for his treatment after all? Some kind of altruist, apparently :) How long has he been in a coma? There should have been a horse price tag. These are not corrupt, free horsemen from Russian polyclinics - they will not even move for free.
          Do you seriously think that a speck of dust was blown off Navalny in Germany and they blew in the ass just because they are worried about the level of corruption in Russia? :))))
          That the people who blocked Trump's twitter because of disagreements in the elections, shot the protesters, declared them internal terrorists, and only think that only about human rights in Russia? :))
    2. 0
      11 February 2021 23: 19
      "Nobody claimed that the interior decoration existed." How does he not say if Leshik says in plain text: "Putin is sitting on these sofas, Putin is swimming in this pool"? And before Rotenberg, there were a lot of private owners, the object passed from hand to hand, Rotenberg in general always brings the started business to the end (for example, the Crimean bridge and Artek too). He would do on this so-called. a paid excursion to the palace for everyone, maybe it could be completed faster.
      1. +1
        12 February 2021 09: 42
        Putin sits on these sofas

        Pictures of sofas are shown ..
        "Here Putin will watch the play" - in Russian it is said that this is a recreated animation .. that it WILL BE .. Based on plans, diagrams and drawings .. where "each tile is designated"
        I say - you would look carefully - there would be no stupid questions ..

        do on this so-called. a paid tour of the palace for everyone

        And what is remarkable about this palace ??
        Can I build another one in Voronezh ?? Twice more .. I will go on an excursion ..))

        shl .. And Rottenberg is an ordinary swindler who, together with Putin, withdraw state money into private hands .. even a bridge, even SP-2 ..
  51. 0
    11 February 2021 17: 32
    Russian blogger Alexei Navalny is an ally of Ukraine because he fights the regime of President Vladimir Putin
    , said former Secretary of the National Security Council of Ukraine Alexander Turchynov
  52. 0
    11 February 2021 20: 46
    Those who watched Navalny's video. For example, I have a lot of questions right away - the moment when Navalny takes out the plan of the palace, allegedly sent to him by one of the main contractors, because he was “pissed off” by the luxury and blah blah blah. Immediately there are a lot of questions - who exactly? How was he able to send this plan to him in Germany? Did you know the exact address? Well, and the most important thing - one of the MAIN contractors of such a palace is paid definitely more than one million. If they paid you millions for this palace, would you send the plans of this palace somewhere because it supposedly infuriated you? How can a contract that brings in millions be infuriating??? Complete nonsense in general... And there are a lot of such delusional little things.
    1. +1
      12 February 2021 09: 45
      How was he able to send this plan to him in Germany?

      And what does Germany have to do with it...
      Do you really think Navalny alone did this... and even while sitting in Germany??
      The investigation was carried out by many journalists... and many months (maybe years)...
      Navalny only read out on camera what was given to him..

      one of the MAIN contractors of such a palace is definitely paid more than one million. If they paid you millions for this palace, you would send
      The film talks about this.. and this person even gives an interview.. Look carefully..
      1. 0
        12 February 2021 13: 13
        And what does Germany have to do with it...
        Do you really think Navalny alone did this... and even while sitting in Germany??
        The investigation was carried out by many journalists... and many months (maybe years)...
        Navalny only read out on camera what was given to him..


        You're right, he just read it out, but the “investigation” was definitely not conducted by journalists. There is truth in this film (though it is not yet the truth),

        but even this truth is not much, I think so, according to the well-known recipe - 2 grams. truth and 10 gr. outright lies, we end up with an “investigation”.
        1. +2
          12 February 2021 13: 35
          but the “investigation” was definitely not conducted by journalists

          Even call them agents of the State Department... that doesn’t make the investigation cease to be an investigation... And what Navalny voiced doesn’t become any less interesting...
          There is an order of magnitude more truth in that film than in the words of Putin or Peskov.. And you formulate the truth yourself..
          1. 0
            12 February 2021 18: 36
            Even call them agents of the State Department... that doesn’t make the investigation cease to be an investigation... And what Navalny voiced doesn’t become any less interesting...
            There is an order of magnitude more truth in that film than in the words of Putin or Peskov.. And you formulate the truth yourself..


            Do you have a head on your shoulders? Why do you think the Head of the US State Department herself handed out cookies on the Maidan in 2014? Just out of altruism? :) The US people will never do anything for nothing. In the same way, no one in the West will provide Navalny with resources and means for filming this “exposure” for free, only out of a desire to “expose” corruption in the Russian Federation. In addition, another side question - in Germany there is no compulsory medical insurance, who do you think paid for Navalny’s expensive treatment in a PRIVATE clinic in Germany, and for what??? Food for thought - in the USA, thousands of people went bankrupt precisely on bills from clinics, due to the fact that there was no health insurance. Do you think Navalny had insurance that covered resuscitation in a private clinic??? If you think so.... Then I have nothing more to talk to you about.
        2. 0
          15 February 2021 15: 56
          A beautiful picture for a catchphrase. It remains to replace the wall projections from “truth” to “trouble”, because Truth is the way of holding (thread / force field / someone’s paw) the depicted cylindrical plug with the stamp “truth”. Do not vulgarize the ancient word Truth.
    2. 0
      12 February 2021 19: 50
      If this is a palace for the first person, then this is a FSO object, and its plan is at least a secret document, with limited access to it. Have you ever seen in the public domain a detailed plan of the Kremlin Presidential Building, the residence in Novo-Ogarevo or the Bocharov Ruchey state dacha in Sochi? And under what article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation is the sending of a secret document to Germany, or its acquisition for posting on a public network classified: “espionage” or immediately “Treason”? Yes, if this is done for the first person, then the contractor is constantly under the total control of the special services, every brick and block is checked for bookmarks, etc. So the whole video is amateurish nonsense, aimed at a narrow-minded consumer. End justifies the means....
  53. 0
    11 February 2021 20: 57
    The afftor was pleased. “But it is very likely that this is a clumsy translation of the word mudroom - hallway. That is, the original English text for the film was simply translated into Russian in a very unprofessional manner.”

    How can Navalny compete with such pros? My advice to a professional is to check the meaning of the mysterious mudroom in a reputable dictionary. Too lazy to leaf through a thick volume? No problem. I recommend the online (and very decent) Multitran dictionary. We drive in our mudroom - and we get:
    mudroom n.

    total canopy (4uzhoj); vestibule (4uzhoj); mud warehouse (room for storing raw materials for therapeutic mud, theconversation.com mindsooth)
    Amer. (in a farm house) entranceway of a rural house (a small room or entryway where footwear and outerwear can be removed before entering a house Val_Ships)
    In brackets are the nicknames of the translators who provided their translation options. It turns out that this is either a canopy, or an entrance hall in a RURAL house (nothing like a rural house!), or a dirt warehouse. Total:
    Learn the materiel, author. Well, then, of course, write escho.
  54. 0
    11 February 2021 21: 21
    "Bale" the bulk and the computer. will continue... Paid for by the puppeteers. And since the prepayments have been made, it is necessary to draw up a “Certificate of Completion of Work”.

    Even the failed ones. laughing
  55. -1
    12 February 2021 00: 56
    This video is just one episode of the information war against Russia. This follows from where it was made (in Germany) and where the order came from (from America). Who is it aimed at - the new generation entering life, which did not experience either the tragedy of the collapse of the USSR, or the dashing Yeltsin 90s with the war in Chechnya and rampant terrorism, a parade of national sovereignties. outskirts, devastation in the economy and social sphere (even the army was not paid allowances for six months), etc. They either weren’t in the world or they were at such a young age that they didn’t think about how their parents fed and clothed them at that time. Given their zombification by the Internet, no one asks the common sense question: WHY DOES PUTIN HAVE A PALACE? In accordance with the legislation of the Russian Federation, the current president is an object of state protection, i.e. the state provides its activities, food, accommodation, transport, communications, etc. There have been a lot of state residences in the country since the times of the USSR, and in 2014 there were even more of them with the return of Crimea. That is, the President of the Russian Federation, as head of state and Supreme Commander-in-Chief, essentially lives under communism, and even receives a salary of about 700 thousand. rubles per month (see V.V. Putin’s tax return, which by the way is much less than in a number of states). Moreover, residences are not lordship, but a forced necessity, because The place of work and residence of the President as Supreme Commander-in-Chief must be constantly provided with telecommunications for the management of strategic nuclear forces. Upon his retirement, he, as the bearer of nuclear secrets, remains an object of state protection with the same benefits; the only monetary allowance of the ex-president is 75% of that of the current president. The same fake with the quasi-poisoning of Navalny. Who needs him to be bullied, is he a competitor to Putin? Moreover, supposedly combat agents of the “Novichok” type, which at one time were intended for the destruction of entire military units and subunits, and not for individual liquidations. Isn’t it funny that they poison him twice: first Leshik, then the Skripals, and in both cases they don’t poison him enough. But the script is the same - from MI6. That the professionalism of the intelligence services has declined? Over the past 30 years, the Russian special services have confirmed the fact of the elimination of the international terrorist Hottab by poisoning: the bandit received a letter, opened the envelope and died of joy without any trace. There was information that Doku Umarov also passed away. These are delicate operations with great risk to the lives of the performers. But here they poison under ideal conditions and under-poison. Moreover, Leshik yells in court that he was poisoned through his underpants, and Pevchikh Masha - through a bottle, at least they agreed somehow. For me personally, and probably for the majority of the country’s population, there is no doubt whose agent Navalny is. But who has seen his tax return, how much does it cost to rent his apartment in Moscow or study abroad for his daughter, and where does he get the money from in general? Why was he allowed to openly work on the collapse of the country until recently? Did the experience of the collapse of the USSR teach us nothing? For what he did, he will get what he deserves, although judging by his inappropriate behavior at two trials, I have a thought: does the patient need the services of psychiatrists? Doesn’t he understand that the post of President of the Russian Federation is not Senka’s cup of tea for him and that no one will allow a foreign agent anywhere near a nuclear suitcase?
    1. +2
      12 February 2021 09: 31
      The political field of the Russian Federation is very strange: a full spectrum of politicians the USSR and the complete absence of young people from the Russian Federation (who did not live in the USSR and did not participate in the great robbery of the nineties), the strategic mistake of 2012 when young Russian politicians were carefully removed from big politics and ironed out administrative positions, backfired with the appearance on the face of big politics of this aching and defiantly noticeable pimple. Those you named are still Soviet or active participants in the “privatization” hit by the disaster, their time has passed -Those who have nothing to rob have grown up.
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  57. +1
    12 February 2021 19: 29
    The information war is in full swing, in which the laws of logic and common sense, as a rule, do not apply. And there is not much of a culture of polemics. But the most interesting thing is the composition of the opponents. Some of them hide behind anonymizers, and for some reason several nicknames come out from the same IP address. But the nicest thing: a bunch of opponents with IP addresses from the non-Russian range. For some reason, democracy in Russia and Moscow is most celebrated in Kyiv, Lvov, Tallinn, Vilnius and a little further in Poland, Great Britain and the USA, and in pure Russian (essentially banned in some countries), without errors. As if they have nothing else to do and there are no problems in their countries. And outwardly the picture emerges that half of Russia is sitting and cursing Putin day and night and caring for the country. And when those who pay hundreds of thousands for renting apartments in Moscow without paying any taxes moan about their grandmother’s low pension in the Russian outback, I just want to ask: where does the money come from, Zin? Oddly enough, for the fifth column, fighting against their country is a very profitable business and not free. Who pays and calls the tune? But the peoples of Russia have already historically developed an attitude towards impostors like the False Ditrievs and traitors to the Motherland like Vlasov, and this public ended its life path somehow sadly for itself. Modern Vlasovs and Co., who are trying to rock our country to please our opponents, must remember this.
  58. 0
    12 February 2021 22: 47
    How did they get unpunished liars...
    again they are talking about a "palace coup"....
    How about: Did you take bridges, telegraphs, train stations? - No, then push the nonsense further...
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    13 February 2021 01: 01
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    No, my wife is 16 years younger, and I'm still doing it!

    Are these all your achievements?
  61. 0
    13 February 2021 18: 05
    (sad): they fought and fought, but only they themselves crashed... (c) Gaidar-grandfather (he, too, has already died)
  62. 0
    15 February 2021 18: 38
    Unfortunately, the majority does not find the strength to look through Navalnov’s propaganda, which is why they find themselves in the position of “I haven’t read it, but I condemn it.” And it’s worth getting acquainted with it, although it’s difficult to endure.
    First of all, what is striking is the orientation not even towards a teenage audience, but towards some preschool children - all the intonations and antics are more suited to Aunt Valya, or whoever is on the show “Good night, kids!” "Listen my friend, I'll tell you a story..."
    Yes, the video is completely manipulative, but at the end, which, like the middle of the Dnieper, a rare schoolchild will reach, diagrams and documents are provided, and the best counteraction would be to analyze the fakes on their merits. If it's fake.
    If Navalny considers his supporters to be emotional idiots, that is his right, but the authorities should show them and everyone else a little more respect. People are able to appreciate this.
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  68. 0
    23 February 2021 04: 48
    "Propagation of frostiness as success"
    And if you take it, turn on your brain.
    some abomination goes to Germany and asks to impose sanctions against Russia.
    Translated into Russian.
    A united Europe, under the leadership of Hitler, attacked our country and killed 27 million souls. When we resisted and, smashing this evil spirits, came to Europe. And despite everything, the grief that they brought to us, we still did not turn it into dust. although they had full moral right and strength to do so. And this applies primarily to Germany.
    Then we defeated them, and as victors, we nevertheless decided to deal with them within the framework of human morality and ethics, that is, we treated them condescendingly, as victims of hellish propaganda.
    But did it work out as always?
    The vanquished impose sanctions on us. And these are those to whom we inherently granted the right to live.
    So what do they do, is it what people do?
    Is this their unique form of gratitude?
    And “gratitude for the fact that we did not treat them the way they dreamed of treating us?
    Then, in a direct military clash with us, they did not succeed in destroying us all, and even as they wanted, at the very root.
    Well, now there’s revenge, and they’re trying to do the same thing, but with different tools.
    And at this time, some abomination is coming to the united abomination, and demands that the blockade be strengthened against us.
    Well, with its boorish attitude towards the veteran, this abomination only demonstrates its contempt for the 27 million killed. And in this “game” of his for a pie from Uncle Sam, people’s lives, their age, gender do not matter.
    And that there are people who can call this abomination a person?
    But maybe these are not people at all?
    "Not every animal will kill its savior!
    Well, young people fall for this solely because of their childhood complexes. And only because, due to their age, they try in any way and manner to indicate their importance. And then a certain daring and successful leader from their point of view appears, and in fact a provocateur, who supposedly takes upon himself all the risks of organizing a flock of dissatisfied people who, by and large, themselves do not understand what they are dissatisfied with and why. And these children fall for this cheap trick, not realizing that this is already a game with the offspring of the Antichrist, and not child’s play.
    In fact, this cheap and vile creature uses children’s complexes to its own advantage, not so much in terms of provoking unrest, but rather for the purpose of degrading fragile souls.
    And in simple language. He is trying to create a headless herd from normal children controlled by him alone.
    "Eugenics - the doctrine of selection in relation to man"
    People, take care of your souls and protect your children from the idolaters of lies!
  69. 0
    3 March 2021 15: 08
    Soros' "Unified State Exam" must be systematically, but QUICKLY, buried; its initiators and promoters must be judged indicatively. The best. REALLY, the best minds in Russia should urgently develop a program to reverse the conversion of greens. With the most generous government funding and the strictest PUBLIC control over the use of money. Well, crush the five-column Russophobic bastard - constantly, harshly, with evidence and publicly
  70. 0
    April 1 2021 20: 11
    Quote: DwellerNet
    And what were the achievements in the first term? I don’t remember anything other than ending the war in Chechnya. Yes, I put things in order after Yeltsin. But he put things in order only in order to calmly build his own vertical of power, and not for the development of the country.

    Yes, he redistributed all natural and industrial benefits. He expelled some oligarchs and appointed his buddies as new oligarchs