A photo of a new Chinese short-range anti-aircraft complex appeared on the web

A photo of a new Chinese short-range anti-aircraft missile system on the chassis of a ZBL-08 wheeled combat armored vehicle has appeared on the Web.

The picture shows the car in front projection, eight launch containers for anti-aircraft missiles are clearly visible, located four on each side of the radar. At the moment, the details and characteristics of the new complex are not available.

The only thing that is known is that the complex is located on the chassis of a ZBL-08 wheeled infantry fighting vehicle. It was this base that Chinese designers used to create a whole family of vehicles, ranging from BMPs and ending with a command post vehicle.

The ZBL-08 is a four-wheel drive vehicle. The armored body provides protection against large-caliber bullets when fired from front angles and against normal calibers from other angles. The front-engine layout is used, which made it possible to free the center and stern of the hull to accommodate the payload - weapons or troops.

The chassis is equipped with a 6 hp Deutz BF1015M440C diesel engine. Semi-automatic transmission distributes torque to all wheels. Forage water cannons for swimming are provided. The chassis "Type 08" provides speed on the highway up to 100 km / h and on water up to 8-10 km / h. The power reserve is about 800 km.

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[tlauicol]

Was it another wasp?

[The leader of the Redskins]

And at first glance, "crotal" reminded me of French)

[Lexus]

They copied "Crotal" for a long time. They swung at the "Shell". Only the containers are different, and the artillery was abandoned due to its poor efficiency.

[venik]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

And at first glance, "crotal" reminded me of French)

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Why shouldn't it remind him of "Crotal"? Especially considering that the Chinese complex HQ-7 (FM-90), there is nothing more than a localized licensed version of the same "Crotal":

So, the version presented to the public is most likely a modification of the same HQ-7, more precisely - "Crotal" ...
True, the containers are more similar to those used on the Yitian air defense system

but there are missiles with IR seeker, so the sighting radar is somehow unnecessary ... And the containers are smaller there ...
So I'm betting on a modified HQ-7!

[yehat2]

Crotal doesn't look epic enough, so it's not his clone.
in my opinion, this is a creative attempt to combine the Thor M1 radar and the general layout of the Wasp.
and put all this on your chassis from ZBL-09

[venik]

Quote: yehat2

Crotal doesn't look epic enough, so it's not his clone.
in my opinion, this is a creative attempt to combine the Thor M1 radar and the general layout of the Wasp.
and put all this on your chassis from ZBL-09

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Perhaps, it is even possible ....... But think about it, if there is "Crotal", then why "reinvent the wheel"?
Isn't it better to create a system by means of a serious modernization of what IS ALREADY AVAILABLE?
As for "Wasp" and "Thor" - it is quite possible! A kind of "symbiosis" ... This is very typical for the Chinese!

[Emil mamedoff]

And for some reason I don't think that this is a continuation of HQ7.
I think the novelty is still from the Norinco corporation. I bet on them.) If, of course, the news is true, then following the news of this company, it is possible that the details will be officially announced soon, perhaps on their office site.

[venik]

Quote: Emil Mamedoff

And for some reason I don't think that this is a continuation of HQ7.
I think the novelty is still from the Norinco corporation.

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Anything can happen, anything can happen ...

[Prisoner]

Not awe-inspiring OSA-like.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Captive

Not awe-inspiring OSA-like.

Judging by China's global superiority in electronics, they have already surpassed the OSA. It would be interesting to compare the performance characteristics of the Pantsir missiles and this device. Not by couch urya comments, but real characteristics.
It is stupid to evaluate the shape of the launch containers.

[Al_lexx]

Quote: Tlauicol

Was it another wasp?

Yes, the saber air defense system och resembles an OSA. At least the shape of the containers and the general layout. As well as the chassis looks like a Boomerang platform. However, the Chinese guys are unpretentious in terms of constructiveness. It is believed that if someone has been thinking about something for a long time, why not save this time and effort, even if you are in the position of a catch-up? Many don't even have that. And it can also be sold inexpensively, since money on R&D is saved.
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But it was not this that amused me most of all, but the mention of a certain amphibious group as part of this complex.)) Although ... they will start to put a couple of MANPADS operators inside. ))

[Eldorado]

More like "Strela".

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Tlauicol

Was it another wasp?

Deja vu, and don't tell. The wheel was added ... in the sense of the axle. Their uncomplicated creativity ... I blinded him from what was ...

[JD1979]

Quote: Tlauicol

Was it another wasp?

In which place? In appearance? Well, if only against the background of taking severe NS. By stuffing? Not even funny.
PS: The trend in the content of comments is depressing. 90% empty scoffing and competition - who gets the better of it. Soon, it will not even be immediately clear where he ended up - to the yellow-blue ones or to the Russian resource ...

[tlauicol]

Blabla .. insults ... blabla ... And on a subject that is what to say?

[JD1979]

Quote: Tlauicol

Blabla .. insults ... blabla ... And on a subject that is what to say?

Well .... besides your "very informative" comment in 2 words ... "Is the OCA another?"
1. Avionics with AFAR on board will most likely be at the level of Pantsir-S (where is the Wasp with a parabola visible there? ...)
2. Containers with a square cross-section are stupidly more convenient to transport, in contrast to rolling round containers which need additional containers. This time. Two. this is that they will also be at the level of the first version of the Shell at first, and then they will grow to version M.
3. Normal chassis, which will not tip over on level asphalt during careless maneuvering.
4. Shooting on the move is likely to be implemented.
5. Well, considering that China, unlike Russia, does not experience problems with the radio component base, there may be many more interesting things there, not to mention the possibility of working in a common network.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Was it another wasp?

Rather an analogue of Carapace, only without guns.

[Emil mamedoff]

ZBL - sounds like something in Russian
especially against uav

It seems that the dimensions of the TPK are the same as that of the OSA. Or maybe a little more ..

[tralflot1832]

A credible sink, no escort, in one copy it rolls around the city. Banana republics sip, buy and fork out! Such is the impression that the crew went for Chinese vodka, frankly disgusting.

[Yuriy71]

A set of words!

[Cowbra]

It's strange. that there are no machine guns or artillery. After all, drones are precisely in the near radius, and precisely in the near zone ... They are gaining popularity. And the Chinese are aware of this, for example, they themselves have already shown drones united in a swarm, on which they hung various weapons, for example, a grenade launcher. That this car is enough for the eyes

[From Tomsk]

GAZ-66 is better, it is even without 440 hp. will pass where the Chinese are hopelessly stuck.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Tlauicol

Was it another wasp?

Yes, we added a wheel

[Cowbra]

It's just not a fact that a Chinese can swim

[dmmyak40]

They wrote that the water cannons were installed.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Gennady Fomkin

Yes, we added a wheel

It looks more like Boomerang in form.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

And at first glance, "crotal" reminded me of French)

Where is it The performance characteristics of the Crotale air defense system:
Combat vehicle length, m: 6,22;
Combat vehicle width, m: 2,72 ;;
Combat vehicle height, m: 1,93;
Clearance, m: 0,450;
Travel speed, km / h: 70;
Cruising in store, km: 600;

[The leader of the Redskins]

You remembered the wrong modification.

Wheelbase, eight launchers ...

[APASUS]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

You remembered the wrong modification.

What it just doesn't look like.
Missile complex ADATS on the chassis "Shark"

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Interestingly, there will be comments on this note, like: "Well done, Chinese! One can only envy. Would we be so"?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

Interestingly, there will be comments on this note, like: "Well done, Chinese! One can only envy. Would we be so"?

Not specifically in this case

But about some developments in the military-industrial complex of the PRC, you can say that.

Example:

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Insurgent

But about some developments in the military-industrial complex of the PRC, you can say that.

I would not be surprised if this video ranks first in the number of citations in the comments on VO.
But I am surprised that no one has brought anything as impressive as this video.
Is there nothing more?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

Is there nothing more?

Yes, it's full, they will just spit here, the uryakly rule. And masochism is not in vogue.
Without nuclear weapons, the territory of China in the Urals would have been already today.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Ingvar 72

Yes, it's full, they will just spit here, the uryakly rule.

Are you so afraid of them that you'd rather keep your mouth shut than tell the truth? Hmmm ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

Is there nothing more?

What prevents you from delving into the study of this issue yourself?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Insurgent

What prevents you from delving into the study of this issue yourself?

My question was not about that, but about what.
Why, when it comes to China's advanced weapons systems, are all VO commentators constantly pushing the same video as an example?
What prevents commentators from delving into the study of the issue and diversifying their position?

[Insurgent]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

What prevents commentators from delving into the study of the issue and diversifying their position?

Personally, I, sometimes it's just too lazy to find other information, I take what is "at hand", in this case - this video.
But be that as it may, and in terms of the success of the PRC in the development of various kinds of UAVs, you can find a lot of other information.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Insurgent

Personally, sometimes I am just too lazy to find other information, I take what is "at hand", in this case - this video.

But when they stick one and the same thing as an example, one involuntarily gets the impression that there is nothing more to demonstrate.

[Insurgent]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

one gets the impression that there is nothing more to demonstrate.

Not everything is as it sometimes seems.

[paul3390]

It seems to me alone that the side containers are somehow quite close to the radar? Does the torch make her sick?

[Gennady Fomkin]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

You remembered the wrong modification.

Wheelbase, eight launchers ...

In 1972, a complex called "Crotale" was adopted by the French Air Force. After being put into service, the complex was modernized several times. The first variants of the "Crotale" air defense system were produced under the code "1000 series". Since 1973, the "2000 series" has entered production, equipped with a target state identification system and a TV camera. "Series 3000", which has an automatic target tracking mode using a TV camera, began to be produced in 1978. and is in service only with the French Air Force. "Series 4000" has been produced since 1983. - in this version, radio communication equipment appeared, providing information exchange between combat control points at a distance of up to 10 km and up to 3 km between the combat control point and the launcher. Combat vehicle "5000 series" is equipped with two additional missiles "Mistral" (1985). Finally, starting in 1994. A modernized version of the complex - "Improved Crotale", completed with a new radar with a phased antenna array, wheeled chassis began to be produced. P4R (4x4 wheel arrangement).

[Emil mamedoff]

Googling a little in Chinese, I roughly realized what a novelty.

Most likely an updated version of the slightly old Yitian air defense system (photo from Yitian below). And on a new, more protected chassis from the ZBL-08 armored personnel carrier

SAM - TY90 (possibly an improved version)
Her performance characteristics

[tlauicol]

It doesn't look like there are much more missiles on the subject

[Undecim]

A photo of the new Chinese anti-aircraft missile system appeared on the web
She appeared on the page of some no-name in LJ. Nowhere else. Maybe someone is having fun with photoshop?

[cniza]

What is having fun is for sure, apparently boring for someone ...

[TatarinSSSR]

Judging by the camouflage, they are going to drive for export to Arab countries