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Both the authorities and the opposition were satisfied with the results of yesterday's protests

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On January 31, the number of protesters in Moscow was significantly less than a week earlier. According to official data, about two thousand people took to the streets of the capital. And although the opposition does not agree with this figure, even it notes a decrease in activity compared to the last time.


St. Petersburg became the leader in the number of participants in unauthorized actions. Local residents attribute this to the dissatisfaction of Petersburgers with the current governor, which is observed even among those who are loyal to the current federal government.

All over the country, law enforcement officers detained about 3-4 thousand people. Some of them were soon released, others were charged with various offenses. Individuals may become involved in criminal charges for assaulting police officers. And there were such people: with truncheons, tear gas cans, "pneumatics" and "injuries".

It is noted that yesterday the police and Rosgvardia acted tough, but for the most part this concerned provocateurs and those who tried to provide forceful resistance. The bulk of the detentions took place calmly, but it was not always possible to avoid violence, and not always justified. Although this was more the exception than the rule.

There were also differences from the previous all-Russian protest action. For example, in some cities one could see round dances organized by the participants of the rally. And one of the protesters in Moscow decided to commit self-arson. Later it turned out to be a client of a neuropsychiatric dispensary.

In Rostov-on-Don, special equipment was taken to the streets, and the Cossacks came to the aid of law enforcement officers.

Although the protests were held under the slogans of support for Alexei Navalny, for many it was just an excuse to express their dissatisfaction with the current situation in the country. The opposition newspaper Meduza conducted a small poll among the protesters. Most of the respondents named social and political reasons for their participation in the actions. In particular, they mentioned low salaries, corruption and imperfect judicial system.

And in the course of other polls, it was found out that many of those who took to the streets the day before had no specific slogan at all. Minors (and there were at least a third of those at the protests) stated something from the series "For all good versus all bad."

The organizers of the protests managed to get the necessary picture of tough police actions in order to demand from the West the introduction of new sanctions against Russia. The authorities showed their decisiveness in the fight against violators of the order and identified especially inadequate and radical citizens.

In general, the parties parted, being pleased with themselves - at least outwardly.

There is a possibility that the "next episode" will take place on February 2. On this day, it will become known whether Alexei Navalny will receive a real term or, as usual, will add another house arrest with a new condition to his "piggy bank".
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  1. Victor_B
    Victor_B 1 February 2021 11: 47
    +11
    Both the authorities and the opposition were satisfied with the results of yesterday's protests

    Battle of masochists with riot police!
    Both sides enjoyed it.
    1. loki565
      loki565 1 February 2021 11: 55
      -16%
      Everyone was happy and this is the most important thing)))
      https://vk.com/video-123538639_456266341
      1. Crowe
        Crowe 1 February 2021 12: 20
        -16%
        The main thing is that the authorities are satisfied. We will not rock the boat. We do not want it, like in France. Why, in fact? I just want the standard of living of the people to be like in France, why not ...
        1. loki565
          loki565 1 February 2021 12: 24
          +46
          France Why, in fact, I want the people's standard of living to be like in France, why not ...

          Then why are they on strike there? maybe it's good where we are not?)))
          1. syndicalist
            syndicalist 1 February 2021 12: 32
            -12%
            Quote: loki565
            Then why are they on strike there? maybe it's good where we are not?)))

            So maybe it's good because they are buzzing?
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 1 February 2021 12: 34
              +6
              Quote: syndicalist
              So maybe it's good because they are buzzing?

              It turns out that when you didn't get busy a couple of years ago and before that, it was bad?
              1. syndicalist
                syndicalist 1 February 2021 12: 37
                -5
                The effect of any booze gradually fades away.
                1. Tatyana
                  Tatyana 1 February 2021 13: 04
                  +5
                  Quote: Victor_B
                  Both the authorities and the opposition were satisfied with the results of yesterday's protests
                  Battle of masochists with riot police!

                  On January 31 in St. Petersburg, a correspondent for the Fontanka newspaper witnessed how a group of protesters pushed three police officers into the depths of Sennaya Square, to the Ioannovskaya chapel. To the shouts of the crowd "Go away!" several people attacked the police officer with their fists, pulled his clothes, kicked and knocked his cap off his head. To calm them down, the policeman had to get and demonstrate his service weapon. There were no shots.

                  A policeman took out a service pistol on Sennaya Square • Jan 31. 2021
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                    1. Lech from Android.
                      Lech from Android. 1 February 2021 13: 43
                      +25
                      Yeah ... a pitiful sight being led like the Germans in Red Square ... a rabble of unfinished botanists ... and with such Navalny wants to take power? ... a disgrace.
                      1. Deck
                        Deck 1 February 2021 13: 53
                        -45%
                        Yeah ... a pitiful sight being led like the Germans in Red Square ... a rabble of unfinished botanists ... and with such Navalny wants to take power? ... a disgrace.


                        Are you encouraging the kids to arm themselves to look decent next to these "eagles"? Take power? Oh well
                      2. midivan
                        midivan 1 February 2021 14: 33
                        +16
                        Quote: Deck

                        Are you encouraging the kids to arm themselves to look decent next to these "eagles"? Take power? Oh well

                        Are you ready to lead these kids? That's why the revolutionaries in the departments filled everything with snot ... It would be interesting to see how they handle weapons, but something tells me that all the wounds and murders will be in the back ...
                      3. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 1 February 2021 15: 10
                        +12
                        Well, I don't know what the puppeteers of the hamsters are happy with. I suppose they are just pretending to be smart and contented like that old rooster who has not caught up with a single hen.
                        But what the law enforcement officers are happy with is clear: there were fewer worries. But it's too early to calm down! We need to tune in to serious work with the "fifth column" - American soldiers with Russian passports. And pack, pack, pack! laughing laughing laughing
                      4. A1845
                        A1845 1 February 2021 16: 40
                        +9
                        Most of the respondents named social and political reasons for their participation in the actions. In particular, they mentioned low salaries, corruption and imperfection of the judicial system.

                        in countries with perfect judicial system such are declared terrorists, given 15 years, poured with water, and sometimes they shoot combatants.
                      5. 2 Level Advisor
                        2 Level Advisor 1 February 2021 20: 10
                        -3
                        Vladimir agrees .. these are all Americans and their agents .. and corruption because of them and salaries are low and even the retirement age because of them was raised along with gas prices .. and they threw the palace .. if not for them .. if the whole world would have envied our standard of living .. to pack the disgruntled traitors and to lumber those who dare to disagree with the brilliant line of the party! they are still in school, evil American agents are recruiting by the thousands .. they decided .. to stagger the boat .. look ..
                      6. Kisa
                        Kisa 1 February 2021 20: 50
                        +7
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        And pack, pack, pack!

                        The latest edition of Article 31 of the Constitution of the Russian Federation states: Citizens of the Russian Federation have the right to assemble peacefully, without weapons, to hold meetings, rallies and demonstrations, processions and pickets.
                        and since the Constitution officially stands above others, having finished, officials must either provide a place for such a rally, and in agreement with the protesters, or stand aside. but here an important link falls out - since the conflict of interests, the majority will not agree. then the article of the constitution does not work and sooner later it will come out somewhere
                      7. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 1 February 2021 21: 22
                        +3
                        Permissions, when asked, give. Only after all, what a misfortune, no one asks! Why? But because: "We are in power here and we do what we want!" AND peaceful protests are when they rally peacefully, and do not arrange a booze and confusion on the cameras of Western reporters, not throw themselves at law enforcement officers to everyone that turns under the naughty little hands, not attack law enforcement officers (in the best traditions of "peaceful protesters") from behind, not knock out the eyes of law enforcement officers not make provocations on the cameras, not some shout "America is with us!" All are these peaceful rallies? No it is - provocations for the sake of provocations! And these "peaceful protesters" - American soldiers with Russian passports!
                      8. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 2 February 2021 02: 10
                        +3
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        And peaceful protests are when <...> do not provoke cameras...

                        Here FULL video of the incident with citizen Yudina shot down by a policeman during the suppression of unauthorized mass events in St. Petersburg - with SLOW MOTION and CAPTIONS of what happened.

                        The operator chooses a shooting point, after which the woman rushes to the cut to the security forces delivering the detainee.
                        It can also be seen that the policeman's blow fell not in the stomach, but in the left leg above the knee.
                        Yudina's blatant provocation with the cameraman is visible in its purest form.
                        Of course, there is little good in what happened, but the victim herself is to blame.

                        On the situation with the blow of a woman during the suppression of unauthorized ones. 26
                      9. saigon
                        saigon 2 February 2021 08: 54
                        +4
                        Understand everything is not important now, the provocation must admit a success.
                        The picture has been created and it now lives its own life.
                        It is the Western police who calmly and extremely peacefully voltuz their own people and gas them a little. But any action of ours is for the shitcrats and libirasts bloody reprisals against the bright and glorious protesters.
                        Navalnists and liberals cannot prove anything, and one conclusion did not fall on the camera.
                        In the army there is one or, let's say, a wise thought - things are not going in, they will forgive a lot but do not go.
                      10. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 2 February 2021 11: 48
                        +4
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        Of course, there is little good in what happened, but the victim herself is to blame.

                        COMPLETELY agree with you. And he himself wrote about the same.
                        A - the most important thing - if this provocateur not arrived specially to the city, if she not rushed at the law enforcement officer, then NOTHING would have happened. Margarita Yudina is a violator and a provocateur who needs to be punished !!!
                      11. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 2 February 2021 14: 44
                        +4
                        Quote: Vladimir Mashkov
                        Margarita Yudina is a violator and a provocateur who needs to be punished !!!

                        Unfortunately, Yudina not only ruined the life of the young policeman with her provocation, but she also earned money on this !!! Namely.

                        It is known that Yudina changed her decision to forgive the police officer after she was discharged on the third day after the incident with the fall from the hospital and talked at home with lawyers from Team-29

                        REFERENCE
                        "Team 29" - informal human rights association (NGO) of lawyers and journalists, aiming to resist the growing closeness of the state in Russia. Started working in February 2015. Head - lawyer Ivan Pavlov.

                        Through social networks, they announced a fundraiser for the unemployed Margarita Yudina to pay off the loans she collected in the amount of 166 rubles.
                        According to the deputy of the Okkervil Defense Ministry Kirill Volkov, the required amount was collected in just 1 day. After that, Volkov and his colleague from the municipal district "Ligovka-Yamskaya" Alexander Izotov through "Gosuslugi" repaid loans to Yudina in the amount of 166 rubles.... Moreover, the collection of money for Yudina allegedly continues.

                        Repayment of the loan and other monetary assistance to the provocateur in such a situation can be considered as bribery of Yudina in order to continue to unwind this provocation also on the part of the lawyers of informal human rights defenders "Team 29" against the apologized and previously forgiven police officer.
                        For details see - https://spb.mk.ru/social/2021/01/27/poluchivshey-udar-ot-omonovca-zhenshhine-pomogli-vyplatit-kredity.html

                        At the same time, only one thing is surprising - what bank gave her a loan to an unemployed person with her family's income of 10 thousand rubles ?! Something I do not really believe in such generosity of banks.
                        And if the prosecutor's office checks whether she really had such a bank debt, when, where and why did she get it?

                        By the way, the prosecutor's office has already taken up the issue of finding out the income of her family.
            2. Deck
              Deck 1 February 2021 16: 40
              -16%
              Are you ready to lead these kids?


              Me not. I'm not interested in talking to them, the age difference is big. But with children it usually starts. When the grown men pull up and then laugh. If it's still funny. Do you need examples?
              Can't they shoot? They will teach. Arkady Gaidar in June 1921 at the age of 17 became the commander of the 58th separate regiment. Younger than most of the participants in the demonstrations. Do you want that?
            3. hydrox
              hydrox 2 February 2021 11: 05
              +1
              You would still remember the times of Prince Igor ...
              There is a good recipe: every student WITH ANY FORM of education who takes part in a prohibited action should be sent on an academic leave for a year, and no matter what the draft will fall on during this vacation - I assure you - this danger will make them fluffy lambs. They will manage to evade the army - upon restoration they will present a work book with a record of the performance of functions in the WORKING specialty - and everyone will be fine.
            4. hydrox
              hydrox 2 February 2021 14: 28
              +1
              I can easily bring the common sense point of view into this sentence.
              If the state gives education to an undersized state (and even free!), Then not a single product number 2 is allowed to rock the boat, and even more so violate the Criminal Code, butting with the police.
              As for training on a commercial basis, academic leave does not protect against conscription and the army: this is a means of intimidation, as well as warnings to Navalny (he was presented with as many as 5 of them, although two are enough!) - why would liber majors want to dig trenches? laughing
            5. hydrox
              hydrox 2 February 2021 20: 07
              0
              And so that there are no discrepancies, it is necessary to emphasize:
              1. These ignoramuses study for OUR money.
              2. There is no reason to expect any sense from these items # 2 either for Russia or for its people, for they are like liberoids.
              3. They will not work at any production facilities, preferring to trade footwear on the market or stay office mold in firms such as those organized by bulk.
              4. It is a shame to ask parents about their upbringing, since their task is to survive with their family, earning something for it and anywhere, because LIBERDA has been in power for 30 years.
      2. saigon
        saigon 2 February 2021 08: 42
        0
        Well, shooting in the back may not be demonstrated with a pistol, it still needs to be hit.
        And in St. Petersburg, firing in the back seems to be a tradition, remember the Decembrists fired and beaten in the back.
    2. krot
      krot 1 February 2021 20: 59
      +2
      For whom the people go out on the street, a nightmare! Kanalny is a traitor to his homeland, a foreign agent, a thief, his family has property behind the border, gets money from the State Department and the Britons, his daughter learns from the striped ones .. Is that not enough ???
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    5. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 1 February 2021 20: 23
      +14
      Quote: Tatiana
      I do not go to the processions useful for the United States, and I do not advise others.
      Thank God that among my friends there are normal, literate and understanding people in politics!

      And what has to do with the police woman who accidentally fell under the boots and the intrigues of the Gas Department and the 125th convoy? I get the impression that many of our fellow citizens have begun to lose their minds. hi
    6. Tatyana
      Tatyana 1 February 2021 21: 19
      +3
      Quote: Stroporez
      Quote: Tatiana
      I do not go to the processions useful for the United States, and I do not advise others.
      Thank God that among my friends there are normal, literate and understanding people in politics!

      And what has to do with the police woman who accidentally fell under the boots and the intrigues of the Gas Department and the 125th convoy? I get the impression that many of our fellow citizens have begun to lose their minds. hi

      Firstly, not an accidental, but quite a muddy citizen.
      And secondly. Read my comments about her to the article "Litmus paper of the resilience of the Russian Federation" - https://topwar.ru/179478-lakmusovaja-bumaga-stojkosti-rossijskoj-federacii.html#comment-id-11187770 -
      if you missed information about it.
    7. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 1 February 2021 21: 43
      +12
      Quote: Tatiana
      Firstly, not an accidental, but quite a muddy citizen.

      And here I am interested in your position. I will remember 5 years ago you had more revolutionary views, and now you are turning into a reactionary conservative, so I am interested in the dynamics of your views. And this is regardless of bulk and other "rebels" wink hi
    8. Tatyana
      Tatyana 1 February 2021 22: 27
      +4
      Here is another Vlasovite who is sick to his entire head with a bag of flares at the bulk procession in Moscow!
      Ukrainian examples are contagious to the head of the head!

      The court arrested the fire-thrower at the police rally in January
      • 1 Feb 2021 year
    9. Tatyana
      Tatyana 1 February 2021 22: 40
      +2
      Quote: Stroporez
      And here I am interested in your position. I will remember 5 years ago you had more revolutionary views, and now you are turning into a reactionary conservative, so I am interested in the dynamics of your views. And this is regardless of bulk and other "rebels"
      You are starting to fight corruption at the wrong end. You need to start with IDEOLOGY! The people will not really understand anything and act correctly for their prosperous future until they understand that in fact there is already informally the STATE ideology in the country in the form of the COLONIAL-PARASITARY paradigm of the American economist Milton Friedman, which is set out in his book "Capitalism and freedom "on the first 20 pages. And under Navalny it will not change, but will become even worse. Namely.

      Unfortunately, on this issue, Russian education in the country has long been "sour". The bourgeois ideology of the American economist M. Friedman is no longer called "bourgeois", but is called abstractly class ideology simply "market" with elements of the so-called. "Monetarism" (i.e. bourgeois pursuit of financial profits).
      However, it is impossible to equate the concept of real capitalism with all its shortcomings with the doctrinal idea of ​​the American Milton Friedman in the form of a speculative social project, which is being put into practice, to build supposedly perfectly fair capitalism on Earth throughout the world. Due to what?
      At the expense supposedly the existence in the world of a certain ANARCHISTIC is absolutely "free" from everyone and every world market, which is supposedly absolutely "clean" from profanities and dishonesty both on the part of the participants of the capital market, goods (services) and labor, and from the pressure on them by the national state. And at the same time, the author assumes that all market participants free from the state are initially at all times equal in their life start to each other and can always become rich if they just want it. This is pure utopia and bluff!
      Behind this attempt by Milton Friedman to whitewash capitalism lies a very definite goal taken by Washington's apologists. Namely.
      The purpose of this American bluff is to make the sovereign countries "indigenous" for the United States, uncontrollably and duty-free by their governments, mistakenly, free and defenseless from competition, open access for US multinational companies to their domestic markets for the sale of foreign goods and the purchase of "indigenous" wealth by foreigners , enterprises and natural resources.
      In this case, reduction of native state property in the maximum - to "0" - is promoted by the "market people" exclusively as a public good. For the state supposedly does not need to control anything, there is no need to punish anyone, and there is no need to regulate trade and production either. That at the same time all members of society will become such honest and law-abiding entrepreneurs that therefore it will no longer be necessary to protect the population from swindlers, thieves, robbers and murderers. And therefore, the alleged national state, as an anachronism, will disappear by itself as unnecessary, and there is no need to defend it at all. For the distribution of material goods "from above" at the state level is not required, because everything will be regulated by this "ideal" capitalist market. But those who did not fit into the market are already their problems. Let, they say, they survive on their own, as they can. These include in particular all the so-called. "superfluous" people: pensioners, disabled people, children, etc. - all those who "did not fit into the market." But they should be "happy" with their freedom from the centuries-old, fattening abstract-bureaucratic state, which has always been dreamed of by the anarchists for centuries.

      TOTAL. All this Milton Friedman's ideology about the alleged existence of the so-called. "free" and "clean" market is an anarchist propaganda of the American establishment to decompose the national security of sovereign states to their complete elimination and subjugation of their resources in favor of US multinational companies... And unfortunately this ideology is UNOFICIALLY adopted by the Russian ruling elite, as a STATE ideology. It is implemented in practice by the government of the Russian Federation, the guarantor of the liberal Constitution of the Russian Federation, deputies of the State Duma and the Federation Council. Based on the very Constitution of the Russian Federation, written for Russian liberals in power by specialists from the United States.
      And the HSE is the forge of bourgeois young cadres in this comprador economy and its apologists.
      REFERENCE
      Compradorism (Spanish comprador buyer) is a way of doing business in which profit is derived from activities that undermine its national economy and reduce its ability to grow and ...
    10. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 1 February 2021 23: 05
      +15
      Quote: Tatiana
      The people will not really understand anything and act correctly for their prosperous future until they understand that in the country, in fact, there is already an informal STATE ideology in the form of the COLONIAL-PARASITARY paradigm of the American economist

      I agree, but then I do not understand at all why you support Putin, an ardent representative and defender of this paradigm? Today this citizen again sang defirambs at the grave of his guru-ebn and vowed dedication to his cause.
    11. Tatyana
      Tatyana 1 February 2021 23: 23
      +4
      Quote: Stroporez
      I agree, but then I do not understand at all why you support Putin, an ardent representative and defender of this paradigm?

      Communists have degenerated in Russia. They have completely stopped understanding Marxism-Leninism and diamatism and are hindering others from understanding the situation!

      Right now you, the degenerate "communists," are displeased! Have turned into a political insignificance! Some Vlasovites!
      Found an ally - Navalny !!! In common with him, with your red flags and welcoming flags of the LGBT team, you stalk the streets behind Navalny and swing the stupid supposedly proletarian revolution in Russia!
      You yourself can’t do anything — to assemble your rally separately — so you cling to the provocateurs — foreign agents of Western influence: Navalny, Khodorkovsky ...! Through them you want to get into power in an ugly way! And then the population will need to cleanse such freaks-revisionist-anarchists everywhere with blood from their lives ...
      SCAMMERS!
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  • Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
    Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 1 February 2021 21: 27
    +3
    And what difference does it make, what is the sex of the provocateur, who is clearly rushing towards the camera against the leading offender? And stop here rattling about a kick in the stomach. She was delicately kicked in the thigh and was not even left in the hospital after that, despite the wishes of the organizers of this action.
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 1 February 2021 19: 31
    +2
    Quote: Stroporez
    Fuck! You defend mayhem

    Yes, people who shout about communism with foam at the mouth are defending the bulk.
  • mvnmln
    mvnmln 1 February 2021 21: 46
    0
    From Luga to St. Petersburg came to take a look! Did you know when posting your comment? And my relatives, unlike yours, do not attend UNAUTHORIZED (read, ILLEGAL) events! The law must be respected!
  • Sling cutter
    Sling cutter 1 February 2021 14: 11
    +3
    good Sweating took away in the hearts of grateful Russians.
  • 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 1 February 2021 20: 25
    +5
    I myself did not go to the rally, nor my son, and in general there will not be much sense from them anyway .. but at the same time, what is the legal basis for expulsion from the university? for participation in the rally, the administrative office is laid and that's all .. and you, Tatyana, in fact!, propose to violate the legislation of the Russian Federation and consider it normal .. meanwhile, a country in which laws do not mean anything, there is little good waiting for us .. so I hope our powers-that-be- Your proposal will not find a response, I want to live in a country in which laws mean something ..
  • Tatyana
    Tatyana 1 February 2021 20: 49
    -1
    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
    Tatyana, in fact !, you propose to violate the legislation of the Russian Federation and consider it normal.

    At first. Reclassify that terrorism, which it is.
    REFERENCE
    Terrorism is a serious challenge to Russia's national security. As a threat to national security, terrorism encompasses all the main spheres of the country's public life with its destructive effect. Direct violent attacks on the life, health and property of citizens, as well as on material objects for various purposes, not only entail serious damage to the safety of the population and the country's economy, but at the same time undermine the stability of the political system of society, the stability of the state, the faith of citizens in their state, contribute to undermining the authority of the authorities among the population, and in some cases even paralyze the actions of the authorities.

    And secondly. Why does Russia need such future managers with brains useful for the United States? Change the legislation if this is not the case!

    By the way. I had one friend who defended his diploma at the university and, to celebrate, drank 4 bottles of beer per person with friends in the company. And on "weak" an hour later, on the day of the defense of the diploma, I painted all the walls with a swastika from a colored spray in the corridor of the university! Video cameras recorded this art of his, he was identified - and before the issuance of his diplomas, he was expelled from the institute.
    And 5 years of his full-time study at the university disappeared from him like a dog down the drain!
  • 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 2 February 2021 08: 52
    +1
    I think the detainees, so they bring them into the database and it will come back to haunt them, if they need approval for a serious state position, under this government .. At the rallies, the majority was not for the Oval, but against the existing alignment, it's still different .. And other rallies where you can express your opinion, as you yourself said, it does not happen here, since there is no opposition ..
    Tatyana, do you really think that any dissatisfied with the government is already a terrorist and an American agent on the machine? You know, it smacks of the DPRK and other dictatorships where dissent is not allowed .. I did not think that according to you, the necessary road for the country is to a dictatorship, on a par with the DPRK ..

    P.S. drunken inadequacy drawing swastikas - in my opinion, are subject to punishment - hooliganism in its pure form with causing property damage - the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation ..
  • Tatyana
    Tatyana 2 February 2021 14: 05
    +1
    Quote; level 2 advisor
    Is it really your opinion that any dissatisfied with the government is already on the machine a terrorist and an American agent? You know, it smacks of the DPRK and other dictatorships where dissent is not allowed .. I did not think that according to you the necessary road for the country is to a dictatorship, on a par with the DPRK.
    .
    I consider terrorists to be the organizers of provocations by protesters with the use of violence against the authorities, as well as against unprotested dissenting citizens at mass anti-Russian events.
    For example, there was a video when, during the processions for Navalny, one guy with a banner against Navalny was dragged by protesters into a lamppost, which he climbed, and a group of 7 people severely beat him. Isn't this a future dictatorship from Navalny with intolerance to dissent?
    You are very idealizing anti-Putin, curtain society.
    "General human values", as such, do not exist in the world. "Universal values" is an idealized propaganda abstraction, but in practice it is just a bluff.
    Take Varvara Karaulova as an example. She also had her own idealized opinion. The FSB fiddled with her, fiddled with her, let her go, and then she still became a propagandist and recruit in ISIS. Will you say that the term was not soldered to her correctly? It seems that she did not attack any representatives of the authorities. Officially, it was not an igilovka. A propagandist - that's all!

    At the rallies for Navalny, propagandists also work. The goal is one - not improving the life of the people, but under the banner of fighting corruption, preparing for the State Revolutionary Revolution in favor of aggravating the external control of Russia, which is now, with the aim of its capture by an external adversary!
    This is a WAR of the collective West led by the United States with Russia! While passive-active - i.e. without its hot phase.
    Do you want to lose this war between the Russian Federation and the West because of 0,001% of the idiots of the population of our country, who are called "useful for the United States" in Washington? I don’t want to lose my country geopolitically, and I don’t advise you to lose it, and your children, if you have them or will appear.
  • 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 2 February 2021 15: 34
    +1
    You are very idealizing anti-Putin, curtain society.

    Nowhere and never do I idealize either the Zaputinsky or the Zanavalny ones .. I don’t like either of them ..
    I idealize where there is little corruption and a decent average standard of living.

    "The goal is one - not improving the life of the people, but under the banner of fighting corruption, preparing for the State Revolutionary Revolution in favor of aggravating the external control of Russia, which is now, with the aim of its capture by an external adversary!
    This is a WAR of the collective West led by the United States with Russia! While passive-active - i.e. without its hot phase. I do not want to lose my country geopolitically and I do not advise you to lose it, and your children, if you have them or will appear "


    Least of all I want to lose my country .. I made it clear that I am not for Navalny / Putin, but for the improvement, not the deterioration of life and I will not fundamentally be the name of the person who does it, the main result is the result .. I will ask you .. It turns out that enemies around and will only dictatorship and the iron curtain save us? Or maybe it's better to remove corruption and then investigate and lead rallies there is no need for navalnists? After all, it turns out that corrupt officials are much worse than them .. they do not just run around the rallies, but take the country's money away (in the USA) ... maybe they are more terrible yet in the matter of surrendering to the enemy?
    Although on the other hand, while they drag everything there (including buying "candy wrappers") - why attack us?
  • Tatyana
    Tatyana 2 February 2021 16: 20
    +2
    Quote: Level 2 Advisor
    It turns out that there are enemies around and only the dictatorship and the Iron Curtain will save us? Or maybe it's better to remove corruption and then investigate and lead rallies there is no need for navalnists? After all, it turns out that corrupt officials are much worse than them .. they do not just run around rallies, but take the country's money (in the United States) ... maybe they are more terrible yet in the matter of surrendering to the enemy?

    Remember how the people of Libya lived under the "dictator" Colonel Gaddafi! As under socialism. Free housing, medicine, education. Young people were allowed to receive education abroad - in the same European universities. And what happened to Gaddafi? And what has become of Libya after Gaddafi?

    I say, I tell people - and it's all to no avail! People do not understand that the collective West geopolitically does not need ANY Russia - neither socialist, nor capitalist, nor feudal, slave-owning !!! NO at all!
    And corruption is inherent in the very American Anglo-Saxon ideology, intended only for export to other countries, about the alleged existence in the world of the so-called. "free" and "clean" market of capital, goods and services for the purpose of absolute colonial-parasitic seizure of wealth in other countries by peaceful means from the local natives ideologically deceived by them with their subsequent biological and physical ELIMINATION !!! Civil war, as in Ukraine, as in Libya, etc.
    And therefore the personality of a person who heads a state - a victim of world aggression - is of great fundamental importance.
    Can you suggest someone in such a political environment instead of Putin? Me not. We will still cry when Putin is gone.
  • 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 2 February 2021 16: 49
    0
    partly agree with the first part .. But where does Kadaffi? The Jamahiriya is not a dictatorship .. Take an interest .. "" The ideology of the Jamahiriya, at first glance, is close to the anarcho-communist ideas of P. A. Kropotkin. " The DPRK will look like ..

    The West needs Russia ... and such as it suits it now ... It seems that he was a bogeyman, so that they were afraid and there was some kind of enemy against whom it was necessary to unite, but money should be spent .. And since I do not see an independent policy without looking back to the West, I think that it smells of a semi-colonial administration .. (no matter how sad it is, but .. there are a lot of signs)
    At the same time, we have the same, but more effective - the United States, too, as a bogeyman, is constantly in place and no, they get it, frightening the population with the arrival of minke whales .. Why would they? to capture the pipes and guard them from the partisans? we sell ourselves ..

    Our resources? but now we are not giving them away, receiving beads (candy wrappers) in return, but NOT technology and NOT something valuable? (sanctions, however, as a justification) Moreover, all the stocks are in "candy wrappers". We are now, in principle, happy with the West, despite the nuances of the type of nuclear weapons ...

    but with the second part ... but don't care .. until the system changes, Tutin, Futin, then Kutin and everything will also remain, you worry about it in vain .. well, I hope the standard of living will be raised at least a little, otherwise the bulk of the people is already something I am completely unhappy if you remember 10 years ago ..
  • Tatyana
    Tatyana 2 February 2021 17: 05
    +1
    We lost the Cold War to the United States and are paying tribute to the United States as a country colonized by America.
    Russia is semi-sovereign. The collective West is plundering the wealth of our country. The Yeltsin Constitution of the Russian Federation is colonial, and the American special services wrote it for the Russian Federation in English with automatic translation into Russian.
    Now we are trying to get out of this colonially dependent situation. But the West does not like this very much. The collective West has absolutely aggressive plans with regard to Russia. The US State Department regrets that in 1991 they did not finish off Russia to the end - they did not tear it apart, and Russia is now raising its head against American trans-Atlantic companies.
  • 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 2 February 2021 18: 39
    0
    It turns out Tatiana, you and I are almost all like-minded people .. except that - "now we are trying to get out of this colonially dependent situation" .. why is that?
    1. Who will give us? for this we need not to depend on the west, and they will not let us off the hook so simply, they put us on it not for that .. in fact, let's not about the faith in the leader strengthened by the media, but about the facts:
    let's see .. building an army, roads, etc. that's good .. but are they really addicted? not!
    economic dependence and in technology ... technology: machine tools and mechanical engineering are there? no .. factories, even if they open - on imported equipment (military, too) which you cannot operate without the West especially .. even tractors and hammers are not ours .. spare parts, and most importantly the programs of machines and mechanisms are developed and controlled in the west, and without they will not be exploited .. that is, the dependence is complete here .. for electronics, China ... pharmacology? not ours .. etc. and all the talk that we will change is just talk ... where have the addiction been removed in 20 years in these areas? built on their equipment does not remove addiction ...
    2. And the most important thing depends on where the rest comes from .. EBN economy - the sale of resources for candy wrappers .. what has changed? when EBN sold resources and bought candy wrappers, and a reserve in candy wrappers (in the west) ... now what has changed? NOTHING! Nothing at all!
    those. the addiction has not gone anywhere .. so with this "now we are trying to get out of this colonially dependent situation" I do not agree .. I do not see the facts, I see the slogans ..
    When, for a start, the Central Bank becomes state-owned, I will start to believe ... until there is nothing ... fairy tales, slogans ..
  • Tatyana
    Tatyana 2 February 2021 19: 15
    +1
    Do you understand what ideology is? This is a program of human behavior, which is embedded in a person, like a computer program in an information device. At the same time, a person perceives her as his own, and is ready to fight for her! Ideology for him is like a guide to action!
    And the so-called. Friedman's "market" ideology is a program for unlimited consumption. And resources for consumption are limited. Hence the idea of ​​the "golden billion" and population reduction - and all at the expense of the third world, to which the West attributed the USSR, and also includes Russia!
    It was thanks to Soros that all this restructuring in the minds of the people began with the educational reform under Gorbachev in 1986 for teachers and schoolchildren and ended with the counter-revolution and the collapse of the USSR in 1991. This is what ideology means.
    And now this process continues. The ideology promoted in universities is the same! And it will lead precisely to the collapse of the Russian Federation. We will lose the country. Remember: nobody in the West needs Russians, except as "cannon fodder" for the US war with China.
    In the United States, they planned to reduce the population on the territory of the former Russian Federation to one million people.
    So, only naively limited people can live like they do in the West.

    As for the content of the so-called. of the "market" ideology of American Milton Friedman, for which he received the Nobel Prize, then I stated this here above in my commentary from 22:40 hours - in my opinion, this is the 5th from my top.
  • 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 2 February 2021 19: 35
    +1
    read and agree, Tatyana .. unfortunately - so far I don't see any real prospects for changes in this course .. it may not be a collapse, one thing is easier to control than 10 .. but it's difficult to wait for a better life in such situations .. ideology is simply not for us will change, this is dangerous for the ruling in the world, and they have more influence and opportunities than ever before ..
  • Tatyana
    Tatyana 2 February 2021 20: 03
    +2
    Agree with you. And this is very sad. However, we must move in this direction - to propagandize, explain, because the dialed amount then goes over to the required quality.

    Look here. Now there are protests for Navalny. But the protesters have no political demands for the people other than to end corruption.
    And by the way, Gorbachev and EBN also destroyed the USSR under the flag of fighting corruption.
    In Ukraine, too, every time a coup d'etat was held under the flag of the fight against corruption.
    But the trouble is that M. Friedman's "market" ideology is built precisely on the introduction and encouragement of corruption!
    How can the phenomenon itself, preserving the conditions of its existence, get rid of what lies at its foundation? No way.
    It is necessary to change the ideological basis of society's existence in order to change the society itself.
    As soon as the US State Department takes a corrupt official in another country under observation and promotion, then a corrupt person immediately ends up in Washington, like a fly in a beetle's web. - and through this the West colonizes and controls any country that has fallen into its ideological networks, destroying its national sovereignty and devouring its economy to the end and drinking all the juices from it.
    therefore there should be no support for Navalny, Khodorkovsky and other similar pro-Western riffraff. This is not the direction we need.
    It should be remembered that the Russians are not at all indifferent to the economic conditions in which they will go towards their goal of liberating themselves and their country. Therefore, in our economy, we need to preserve what we have left and develop what we have. And not how Tikhanovskaya destroys the economy of Belarus by her calls for protests against Lukashenka. We cannot allow something like this in Russia.
  • 2 Level Advisor
    2 Level Advisor 3 February 2021 08: 03
    0
    And what about corruption, what to do in such a situation? to recognize the norm? Friedman, I think, would not consider a country with almost official corruption as a deviation from his theory, a country like you said is easier to manage .. we have this really a problem, and without Navalny it is clear .. In a country dependent on - does the government want to change its ideology? What for? Or will they give her? a vicious circle turns out .. that you are right, it is very sad .. and it is possible to gain quality in quantity, but without the support of the state, it can take a hundred or two years and the conditions should not change, but this is impossible .. it seems to me really to throw these vampires off peace, only a global cataclysm can, but would you like it? not sure..
  • Kisa
    Kisa 1 February 2021 20: 57
    0
    April 5, 2016 the date of the creation of the National Guard ... What a young guard) will soon celebrate 5 years ... such a folk holiday))))
  • Siberian54
    Siberian54 2 February 2021 08: 49
    +1
    The first mention of the gendarmerie in the Republic of Ingushetia is the 18th century, the gendarmerie troops (internal troops) were officially formed in 1827, so there is no question of any five years after seven years bicentennialwill celebrate ..
  • Dart2027
    Dart2027 1 February 2021 19: 29
    +1
    Quote: Deck
    Reminds of films about the War

    Yes, they also led the captured Germans.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 1 February 2021 14: 01
    +6
    Fading out when funding is cut off.
    Reminds the prisoners of the Western fascists with the Soviet convoy of Vlasov's Bandera forest brothers ...
    1. Deck
      Deck 1 February 2021 14: 04
      -30%
      Reminds prisoners of Western fascists with a Soviet convoy of Vlasov


      Well said son
      1. Tatyana
        Tatyana 1 February 2021 15: 53
        +3
        Quote: Tatiana
        Quote: Deck
        Reminds of films about the War, punishers and partisans:

        The comparison is historically incorrect.
        Do not exaggerate, anti-Russian navalist, provocative colors!
        Nobody is going to hang up and bury the militant maydanutyh idiots in the ground and never will!

        Quote: Deck
        Quote: Incvizitor (Andrew)
        Reminds prisoners of Western fascists with a Soviet convoy of Vlasov
        Well said son

        Well, it's just amazing how you and your Finnish name Pertti so fast - already on the fly - politically "changed their shoes"!
        They found "little son" Andrey for themselves and signed up for him as a "dad"!
        Nafig surrendered to Andrey such a weather-covered "daddy"!
        1. Deck
          Deck 1 February 2021 16: 02
          -11%
          Darling, did you understand what Incvizitor wrote? The most not funny? Why are you so blistered?
        2. Tatyana
          Tatyana 1 February 2021 16: 05
          +4
          And navalnists are the new VLASOVTS! If this does not reach you and you still do not understand why you are now taking the disadvantages.
        3. Deck
          Deck 1 February 2021 16: 14
          -11%
          In the commentary to the picture about "punishers and partisans", judging by the minuses, everyone clearly defined who is who in the photo. This makes me very happy. The minuses from the bastards do not bother me, in the 1000-year history of Russia there have not yet been heroes of the devil-lords and gendarmes.
        4. Tatyana
          Tatyana 1 February 2021 16: 45
          +7
          Quote: Deck
          In the commentary to the picture about "punishers and partisans", judging by the minuses, everyone clearly defined who is who in the photo.

          And pluses to you for your comment on the photo were put by your compatriots provocateurs from Finland, as well as citizens of the Baltic states, Poland and Ukraine, and of the American-Navalnist-Khodorkovskaya "5th Column" in Russia.
          Tell me who your friend is - and I'll tell you who you are!
        5. Deck
          Deck 1 February 2021 16: 54
          -9
          And your friends, you must understand, put unarmed people in the snow in Kazan? Are you expecting gratitude from the people? Or everything, as usual, for a bowl of stew from the hands of the oligarchs and their friends in power?

        6. Tatyana
          Tatyana 1 February 2021 17: 56
          +7
          What are you doing here maydanutuyu demagoguery of Vlasov, as it was in Ukraine in 2014 ?!
          Vlasov fought against the hated communist regime in the USSR during the Second World War on the side of the GERMAN INVADERS! And you there too!

          Have you changed your bourgeois ideology with criticism of the Russian authorities in your head - for a proletarian one? Not. have not changed and are not going to change!
          You are as much a bourgeois prick as the Vlasovites!
          Your unlucky fight against corruption in Russia is the struggle of the Westernizer-traitor-Vlasovites for the complete surrender of the Russian Federation to the "Washington Regional Committee"!
          Enough for you to get rid of here!

          You need a maydanuty coup in the Russian Federation! And so that foreign agents - other swindlers and thieves, like foreign agents and criminals Navalny and Khodorkovsky and other riffraffs - come to power in Russia and finally surrender the country to the West!
          And while you are the first to go to the police during a coup and civil war! And with regard to those who disagree, you yourself will not chuckle with humanism at all. Even with this, and brutalized!

          Do not text me anymore!
        7. Tatyana
          Tatyana 1 February 2021 18: 41
          +1
          Quote: Deck
          And your friends, you must understand, put unarmed people in the snow in Kazan? Are you expecting gratitude from the people? Or everything, as usual, for a bowl of stew from the hands of the oligarchs and their friends in power?


          At first. Friends are not friends, but service people, vested with power and on duty.
          And secondly. It is not yet known whether the police seated these detainees in the snow or whether they themselves deliberately sat down in the snow in front of the cameras of navalist bloggers to post such provocative photos in foreign media such as TiP Top and others.

          For objectivity, the links must be given where you got this photo from and under what circumstances it happened.
        8. sniperino
          sniperino 1 February 2021 20: 17
          +3
          Quote: Deck
          seated unarmed people in the snow in Kazan
          What's wrong again? Should you have put them in the snow with your muzzle?
    2. Vadim237
      Vadim237 1 February 2021 18: 31
      +4
      Finish your bullshit - fighters against ryzhims, all your comrades-in-arms in the fight against corruption after coming to power by overthrowing the current one headed this very corruption from the latest examples Ukraine and Armenia where the same came to power Navalny 2.0 European integration The West will help and other noodles about the development and improvement of life but in fact, the economic collapse of the war, nationalism and violent banditry at all levels of government - the screams and agony of the herd of sheep who brought these figures to power. But Russia has a vaccination from yours, Gorbachev and Boris Yeltsin were in power, this dose will last for another century.
    3. Dart2027
      Dart2027 1 February 2021 19: 33
      +2
      Quote: Deck
      in 1000-year history of Russia

      There were many traitors who were shot for treason
    4. sniperino
      sniperino 1 February 2021 20: 09
      -3
      Quote: Deck
      In the commentary to the picture about "punishers and partisans", judging by the minuses, everyone clearly defined who is who in the photo
      Except for you, because the Vlasovites, as well as the Bandera, forest brothers and other Western fascists, no longer confuse them with their Soviet escorts.
  • Incvizitor
    Incvizitor 1 February 2021 17: 15
    +6
    What not to understand the same traitors, Westernizers and enemies of the people as the Vlasovites.
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 1 February 2021 18: 16
    0
    It fades and fogs up - grants love actions, and since actions are sluggish, it means money out of pocket from sponsors.
  • Siberian54
    Siberian54 2 February 2021 08: 03
    0
    A couple of years ago, there were no changes in French labor law against which "yellow vests" took to the streets
  • orionvitt
    orionvitt 1 February 2021 13: 26
    +22
    Quote: syndicalist
    So maybe it's good because they are buzzing?

    Yeah. Ukraine in how prettier. A protest is only good when it is initiated by healthy forces and is aimed at actually improving the situation. And if it is promoted by Western intelligence services, for Western money and coordinated from the US Embassy (which no one is hiding), then excuse me. You need to be the last cretin to support this lewdness that destroys the state. We are waiting for the organizers to bring in "unknown snipers" and start shooting at the backs of young fighters, because according to the manual, sacred sacrifices are needed. The more, the better for the organizers. We've already seen, we know. I sincerely hope that this will not work in Russia.
    1. Kisa
      Kisa 1 February 2021 21: 16
      -1
      Quote: orionvitt
      Protest is only good when initiated by healthy forces.

      contradict yourself. the entire opposition has been cleared to the horizon. kept one clown Leshka such a pocket flush cistern. right now, by clumsy clumsy actions, Vova transferred him to a different status ...
      from all over the movement I had an indicator that Zhirik voiced when a resonance happened - such a mirror of the Kremlin, an indicator of direction - for some reason it is still silent ...
    2. sniperino
      sniperino 2 February 2021 10: 47
      +1
      Quote: orionvitt
      You need to be the last cretin to support this lewdness that destroys the state.
      For some, the cretinism scale does not work at all, but the meanness scale will do.
  • Flooding
    Flooding 1 February 2021 15: 46
    -1
    Quote: syndicalist
    So maybe it's good because they are buzzing?

    That's right, yeah. And in Germany they live well for this very reason, and in Sweden.
    And in general, we need a special class of the population, a buzzing one.
    In order not to work, but to go to the demonstration.
    After all, thanks to them, life will become better and better.
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 1 February 2021 13: 32
    -5
    Quote: loki565
    Then why are they on strike there?

    They are on strike against reforms. Pension type, for example.
    1. Lipchanin
      Lipchanin 1 February 2021 13: 47
      +11
      Quote: Mordvin 3
      Pension type, for example.

      Youngsters
      against pension reform?
      Himself is not funny?
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 1 February 2021 14: 23
        -4
        Quote: Lipchanin
        Youngsters
        against pension reform?
        Himself is not funny?

        Not funny. There is not only pension reform.
        - What have the “yellow vests” achieved since the beginning of the protests, besides freezing fuel prices?
        - What he promised the people, these 10 billion, is actually a deception. He did not give this 10 billion to anyone, but he did not take it away either. That is, he wanted to take this money from us, but did not take it. He wanted to raise taxes for retirees, but has not yet done so. Or the budget provided additional social benefits, but not immediately. And he said that we will pay immediately. The French press reworked this in its own way: the "yellow vests" got 10 billion from the president - more than the French unions could ever achieve anything. (In December, the president issued an address to the nation, in which he announced that he was ready to make concessions that would cost the budget 10 billion euros. The list includes an increase in the minimum wage, the abolition of social payments for pensioners, the abolition of the tax on overtime and bonuses. - E.M. .)

        Source: https://www.solidarnost.org/articles/Martinez_CGT.html
        The central trade union newspaper "Solidarity" ©
        1. Lipchanin
          Lipchanin 1 February 2021 14: 34
          +1
          Quote: Mordvin 3
          Not funny. There is not only pension reform.

          Quote
          Pension type, for example.

          You just mentioned the pension
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 1 February 2021 14: 37
            +1
            Quote: Lipchanin
            You just mentioned the pension

            I said "like". Pension reform is one of the many factors affecting the lives of the French.
            1. Lipchanin
              Lipchanin 1 February 2021 14: 43
              0
              I apologize hi
              I didn't see what you said about France.
              I answered automatically about our rallies
              I apologize again hi
    2. QWERTY
      QWERTY 1 February 2021 15: 57
      +3
      So Navalny himself at one time drowned for raising the retirement age, but after the reform he changed his shoes. On the other hand, it is not so difficult to google the size of the budget of the Russian Federation and the number of pensioners in the Russian Federation in order to understand that there is nothing to raise pensions for, in general. These are simple arithmetic operations, try it.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 1 February 2021 16: 10
        -3
        Quote: ytsuken
        So Navalny himself at one time drowned for raising the retirement age, but after the reform he changed his shoes.

        I answered the question why they are on strike in France.
        Quote: ytsuken
        On the other hand, it is not so difficult to google the size of the budget of the Russian Federation and the number of pensioners in the Russian Federation in order to understand that there is nothing to raise pensions for, in general. These are simple arithmetic operations, try it.

        About this I am now stupidly reluctant to argue, and I'm tired of order.
        1. QWERTY
          QWERTY 1 February 2021 16: 26
          -3
          What's the point of arguing? There is nothing to argue about, in fact. And the increase in pensions is purely populism. And under my generation they will not be promoted.
        2. Vadim237
          Vadim237 1 February 2021 18: 42
          +2
          Here is a small calculation in Russia, 46 million pensioners, let's say they make a minimum wage of 25000 per month for everyone - we get 1.150 trillion rubles - multiply by 12 months we get 13.8 trillion rubles - roughly speaking, in the Pension Fund of Russia every year you will need to additionally put 7 trillion rubles - when asked where they are every year no one can give a clear answer. Everyone may want pensions and 40 and 50 and 60 thousand, but Wishlist remain Wishlist and reality is reality.
      2. Revival
        Revival 1 February 2021 19: 56
        +2
        "It is not so difficult to google the size of the budget of the Russian Federation and the number of pensioners in the Russian Federation in order to understand that there is nothing to increase pensions, in general."

        There is no need to google, "someone who" just should do so that the budget is larger, and not say "there is no money, but you are holding on, and please treat with understanding" ...
        And even more so, this argument looks hypocritical when the one who refers to the lack of money, drives a Mercedes, and receives salary in millions, so then let him ride on a fret and receive salary for himself in 40000 rubles, and then only a little moral right will take to refer to this
        1. QWERTY
          QWERTY 2 February 2021 10: 33
          +1
          How do you "make the budget bigger"? Print money? So this is not really an option. The problem is actually a systemic one, since now the service sector is much larger than the production sector. Accordingly, the lion's share of the population either provides services or resells something there. And no matter how many factories you build, you will not drive anyone there, because the population's needs are overestimated and it is easier to sell panties and phones yawning than to stand at the machine, albeit for a higher fee. preferably 40 hours a week. And about millions, Lada and 40 thousand - this is fierce delirium and it is pointless to discuss it.
          1. Revival
            Revival 2 February 2021 11: 48
            +1
            "And about millions, Lada and 40 thousand - this is fierce nonsense and it is pointless to discuss it."

            It's good that you admit that here you simply have nothing to say to justify the fact that a man with a watch for a million tells about "no money".
            Because if they are not in the budget for pensions, then why are there millions for him?
            If not, then either for everyone or is it hypocrisy
            1. QWERTY
              QWERTY 2 February 2021 14: 13
              0
              Listen - just google the size of the budget of the Russian Federation and the number of pensioners. And then calculate how much money is needed to increase the pension, say, by 10 thousand. Even if everyone takes away their watches, cars and houses, this will solve the problem for three months.
              1. Revival
                Revival 2 February 2021 22: 29
                +1
                So, that's not the answer.
                Goaoris me that there is no money for me, show that there is no money for you either. And the point.
                Then we discuss further.
                I hate hypocrisy
  • Svarog
    Svarog 1 February 2021 13: 33
    -10%
    Quote: loki565
    France Why, in fact, I want the people's standard of living to be like in France, why not ...

    Then why are they on strike there? maybe it's good where we are not?)))

    There they are on strike and the French government is acting .. it goes to a meeting on many issues to the protesters .. And in our country the demands of the people do not reach the bunker .. the walls are too thick ..
    1. loki565
      loki565 1 February 2021 13: 39
      +7
      There are strikes and the French government is acting .. goes to a meeting on many issues to the protesters ..

      Yeah, he goes straight jumping, only tightens the nuts and applies force harder, water cannons, rubber bullets, gas, and so on.
      1. Mordvin 3
        Mordvin 3 1 February 2021 14: 48
        -4
        Quote: loki565
        Yeah it goes, straight skipping,

        Not skipping, but walking.
    2. midivan
      midivan 1 February 2021 14: 40
      +7
      Quote: Svarog
      And here the demands of the people do not reach the bunker ... the walls are too thick ..

      As I understand it, you are on duty at this bunker and have seen with your own eyes how V.V.P is hiding there, or are you from the "Bunker and One Toilet Sweepers" sect? Just wondering....
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 1 February 2021 14: 42
        +6
        Quote: midivan
        Quote: Svarog
        And here the demands of the people do not reach the bunker ... the walls are too thick ..

        As I understand it, you are on duty at this bunker and have seen with your own eyes how V.V.P is hiding there, or are you from the "Bunker and One Toilet Sweepers" sect? Just wondering....

        In my commentary, the key is not a bunker, but too thick walls .. or, more precisely, that the government does not respond to the demands of society.
        1. midivan
          midivan 1 February 2021 14: 58
          +6
          Quote: Svarog
          In my commentary, the key is not a bunker, but too thick walls .. or, more precisely, that the government does not respond to the demands of society.

          Your key word is lost in the "bunker" and says that the president is a coward and is afraid of his people, whether deliberately or not I can not say yet ... And the authorities will not respond to requests, for the reason that these requests are in the background one utyrk and with the call of the same utyrk ... (I would have done the same), but if the people have the courage and will not come out in the shadow of the pro-Western ... (insert the necessary one yourself, or I have no normative words), yes, at the same time, he will drive all liberal evil spirits away from himself with kicks, then in that case I would think a lot and start scratching my turnips to a bald spot ..... In the meantime, we put forward their requests under the auspices of ... dumb ...
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 1 February 2021 15: 05
            0
            Quote: midivan
            And the authorities will not respond to requests, for the reason that these requests are going against the background of one utyrk and with the call of the same utyrk ..

            That you seriously believe that people go out on the street because of Navalny? Among my friends, there are no people who would like to see him in big politics .. of course, many were bribed by the fact that he knew that he had returned to jail .. But at the same time everyone understands that with his coming to power it will be even worse.
            And it is not for this reason that the authorities do not react ... they simply have nothing to offer. They did not do anything fundamental in the economy to offer something to the people .. I will not say anything about the social sphere at all ..
            1. midivan
              midivan 1 February 2021 15: 31
              +2
              Quote: Svarog

              That you seriously think that people are going out on the street because of Navalny?

              It seems clear I wrote ...
              Quote: midivan
              And the authorities will not respond to requests, for the reason that these requests are going against the background of one utyrk and with the call of the same utyrk ...

              Quote: midivan
              while we have put forward their requests under the auspices.

              I would not believe, but strange coincidences, come out only on call ...
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        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 1 February 2021 17: 22
          +8
          Quote: Andrey 40
          It is you witnesses, hangers-on from the same toilet. The bottom line is that GDP is far from the people. So don't get distracted from the trough

          come on, tell us about the rulers who were with the people. It is desirable that you remember them personally. Listen carefully...
        2. midivan
          midivan 2 February 2021 00: 58
          0
          Quote: Andrey 40

          It is you witnesses, hangers-on from the same toilet. The bottom line is that GDP is far from the people. So do not get distracted from the trough.

          I will say briefly - you lived the way I sip smile
    3. ZEMCH
      ZEMCH 1 February 2021 19: 29
      +3
      Quote: Svarog
      And here the demands of the people do not reach the bunker ... the walls are too thick ..

      I didn’t hear anything from Navalnyat)))
    4. Dart2027
      Dart2027 1 February 2021 19: 34
      +2
      Quote: Svarog
      There are strikes and the French government is acting .. goes to a meeting on many issues to the protesters ..

  • Rostislav Prokopenko
    Rostislav Prokopenko 1 February 2021 14: 08
    +2
    Here another formulation is more appropriate: Not where it is good - where we are not, but there is bad - where we are. laughing
  • Yaro Polk
    Yaro Polk 1 February 2021 15: 11
    +1
    He is apparently talking about his Galushkin Kaganate ... a provocateur.
  • Keer
    Keer 2 February 2021 03: 05
    0
    Whom, "you?" laughing
  • Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 1 February 2021 12: 27
    +3
    Quote: Crowe
    The main thing is that the authorities are satisfied. We will not rock the boat. We do not want it, like in France. Why, in fact? I just want the standard of living of the people to be like in France, why not ...

    And why is there a booze in France? They are also not satisfied with the local level, do they want another? As where?
    1. bad
      bad 1 February 2021 12: 50
      +17
      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
      And why is there a booze in France? They are also not satisfied with the local level, do they want another? As where?

      Like we have laughing
      1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
        Sidor Amenpodestovich 1 February 2021 12: 58
        +3
        Quote: malo
        Like we have

        Like Porthos: "I fight because I fight."
        So the busters, even though we, even in France, at least where. Buzz because they buzz.
        They do not care for what, or against what, they are fascinated by the very process of boozing.
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          1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 1 February 2021 14: 48
            +2
            Quote: Andrey 40
            The people are tired

            If I was tired, then not four thousand, but four million took to the streets.
            Or is the government hiding? Or is it the wrong people?
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              1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Sidor Amenpodestovich 1 February 2021 15: 06
                -1
                Quote: Andrey 40
                The people are patient for now. Only rbschеt. So far

                I've heard this since the mid-nineties.
                But it's understandable. Still, the people are not the same. Until.
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                2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Sidor Amenpodestovich 1 February 2021 16: 36
                  +4
                  Quote: Andrey 40
                  You probably will not understand until the people put in the tomatoes themselves.

                  Oh, the process of uncovering has started!
                  So where are the numerous victims of the bloody lawlessness of the authorities?
                  "Patriots" like you only know how to be rude and threaten in a secure internet.
                  See that these very people do not insert you yourself, for laziness and slovenliness.
                  Come on, don't hesitate! I promise I will not complain to moderators about rudeness and insults.
                  Show your essence to the forum.
                3. sniperino
                  sniperino 1 February 2021 22: 02
                  0
                  Quote: Andrey 40
                  until the people insert the tomatoes themselves, you will not understand.
                  If some understanding came to you only after the gang rape, then you should not propagate your experience of enlightenment. People are different, and each has its own path.
        2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 1 February 2021 15: 18
          +6
          Quote: Andrey 40
          I wanted to take out a pistol, I wanted to kick a woman in the stomach, the authorities need to put them in, or put them in a psychiatric hospital!

          Yes, and more.
          You paint such horrors that it is straightforward pestilence, famine and ten Egyptian executions.
          Why, if the arbitrariness is so great, does everyone cling to this unfortunate episode of kicking? Where is the rest of the arbitrariness? Where are all these beaten, psychiatric, tortured, missing and so on?
          Where?
          1. Tank hard
            Tank hard 1 February 2021 17: 29
            +2
            Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
            You paint such horrors that it is straightforward pestilence, famine and ten Egyptian executions.

            In "very developed" countries, such as the United States and not so about Russians and Russia they say. What they have is not a film, so Russians are completely bad individuals. laughing
          2. Dart2027
            Dart2027 1 February 2021 19: 37
            +2
            Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Where is the rest of the arbitrariness? Where are all these beaten, psychiatric, tortured, missing and so on?
            Where?

            Like where, at home on sofas, of course.
        3. QWERTY
          QWERTY 1 February 2021 16: 04
          +3
          Have you PERSONALLY encountered this arbitrariness? Or have you heard somewhere? By the way, I am even surprised by the moral stamina and patience of the staff, judging by the reports. It was necessary to immediately drive the water cannons.
          Have you heard about corruption somewhere? Or do you wear and take it yourself? In our country, the level of everyday corruption is dozens of times higher than the state corruption, if you count in money. Maybe you should start with yourself?
        4. Tank hard
          Tank hard 1 February 2021 17: 26
          +5
          Quote: Andrey 40
          the authorities need to be put in, or put in a psychiatric hospital

          where did you sit in person, the number of the institution and the article (diagnosis)? curious...
        5. Dart2027
          Dart2027 1 February 2021 19: 37
          +4
          Quote: Andrey 40
          I wanted to take out a pistol

          That is, an attack on a police officer is not a sufficient reason for the use of weapons? I just got it in vain, I had to use it. Yes, and about this bulk have already been dismantled more than once - she climbed.
        6. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
          Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 1 February 2021 21: 43
          +2
          Yes, our security forces are just angels compared to the European ones! Have you tried a rubber bullet yet? And a water cannon even at a slightly above-zero temperature? You tell the US police about the gun and the kick in the stomach. In Fashington, an Air Force veteran woman was simply shot, although she was not armed. In the same United States, a man whose family has stolen decently in Little Russia became president, and everything is fine.
    2. Zoldat_A
      Zoldat_A 1 February 2021 13: 03
      +4
      Quote: malo
      Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
      And why is there a booze in France? They are also not satisfied with the local level, do they want another? As where?

      Like we have laughing

      This will soon be oval like theirs.
      They work all week, strengthening the economy of the hated state, and on Sundays, instead of work, they go to protest against this state. Out of habit.

      Let the oval boys groan "in the dungeons of KGB", let the west howl slender to them in chorus - to pill with saliva ... The siloviki need to work harder and harder. Then Oval, when he receives another suspended sentence, will go to a rally in three months ...
      1. Lipchanin
        Lipchanin 1 February 2021 13: 27
        +9
        Quote: Zoldat_A
        They work all week, strengthening the economy of the hated state, and on Sundays, instead of work, they go to protest against this state. Out of habit.


        This video
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        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 1 February 2021 15: 21
          +3
          Quote: Andrey 40
          The fascist policemen were also cruel, but the people remembered everything to them with the advent of the relevant authorities.

          Do you seriously hope that the "appropriate power" in the person of Oval will come and deal with the "fascist policemen" of the Russian Guard? Wait ... "Oval come, put things in order"? The neighbors have already waited for their Oval. You do not shine.

          It is clear that in America, France, Spain, Greece, England, Holland there are not "fascist policemen", but "democratic police", peacefully negotiating with peaceful demonstrators. How else? Well this is with THEM (to oval people to speak dreamily, with a breath of true oppositions). Not that we have (disappointed, while the ovals need to spit on the freshly washed floor) ... Give me someone to look up to, "freedom" to learn ...
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            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 1 February 2021 16: 16
              +7
              Quote: Andrey 40
              you and maggots like you will sit on contentment and be satisfied with a well-fed life

              I'm not starving. This is yes. And I do not live in a Khrushchev-odnushka, and I do not go to the Oka. And I drink, however, not "Henessy", as "unemployed" Oval, but not "furiki" from the pharmacy ...
              Only now I work, it happens, 16 hours a day. My family has enough for a decent life and several hundred more people who work for me. They do not trade, they do not drive transactions back and forth at the computer and do not cheat, they sell stocks on the stock exchange. They work, produce, build. And I work together with them, for my family and for their families I work so that they can work in peace and earn a decent salary ...

              So who is the "maggot on the ration"? Who even gave me a ruble just like that, "for allowance"? Take it just like that, because there is something - a bunch of people willing. From big officials in high offices to the last fire inspector who threatens to seal the change house for the workers if six FBS blocks are not shipped to his dacha. But there is no queue for me to take something "for allowance" ...
            2. ZEMCH
              ZEMCH 1 February 2021 19: 36
              +2
              Quote: Andrey 40
              And here and here - ordinary fascism. Until Soviet power comes, you and maggots like you will sit on ration and be satisfied with a well-fed life. But not for long.

              I do not sit on allowance, I myself am able to earn bread, which I wish for you, go to the outback, take the land and feed yourself and your family with your labor
          2. Alex Justice
            Alex Justice 1 February 2021 19: 06
            +1
            Our police often disperse the disaffected on horseback
        2. Dart2027
          Dart2027 1 February 2021 19: 39
          +2
          Quote: Andrey 40
          but the people remembered everything to them with the advent of the corresponding government.

          Your friends, the protesters, mark the policemen.
      3. Siberian54
        Siberian54 2 February 2021 09: 15
        +1
        Judging by the muddy bitcoins that came to the FBK (more than a trillion in rubles, public information on their website), they arrange and pay for rallies for a long time, and these funds will be enough to organize a serious bloody political provocation with a "newcomer" and the shooting of a crowd like the Maidan
        1. Zoldat_A
          Zoldat_A 2 February 2021 12: 20
          0
          Quote: Siberian54
          they arrange and pay for rallies for a long time, and these funds are enough to organize a serious bloody political provocation with a "newcomer" and the shooting of the crowd like the Maidan

          Let's hope that Moscow is not Kiev, and Russia is not Ukraine. And those "who need it" ("This leg ... Who needs the leg ...") are engaged in this. I would not categorically assert the impossibility of Navalnomaydan in Moscow, but there is a hope that the Maidan in Moscow, similar to the Kiev one, will be dispersed so quickly that it will not have time to reach the "Georgian snipers".

          Although ... In 1991, the whole country also "hoped", and a handful of those whom we today call liberals from Moscow broke the whole vast country over the knee. And there was not one with ... capable of giving the necessary order. It was not necessary to shoot at the White House with all this democratic get-together, but to bomb. The Chinese in Tiananmen had a govinda to give the order. Because - where is China now, and where are we ...
          1. Siberian54
            Siberian54 4 February 2021 05: 54
            +1
            Our youth (judging by the daughter's family) has not been vaccinated by "catastrophe" and October 1993, so there is not enough hope!
            1. Zoldat_A
              Zoldat_A 4 February 2021 10: 28
              0
              Quote: Siberian54
              Our youth (judging by the daughter's family) has not been vaccinated by "catastrophe" and October 1993, so there is not enough hope!

              My son will only finish Ryazan by the 2024 elections. It will be too early to give the order. The airborne platoon is, of course, strong, but not enough to stop Navalnomaydan. I hope someday he will have the authority to make the right decision and issue the "right" order. If necessary. I have no doubt that he will give the correct order.
              1. Siberian54
                Siberian54 4 February 2021 12: 36
                +1
                Alas "when in the late eighties" alpha "received the correct order, they refused to take ebna and how many misfortunes it brought to my compatriots
              2. Zoldat_A
                Zoldat_A 4 February 2021 12: 55
                0
                Quote: Siberian54
                Alas "when in the late eighties" alpha "received the correct order, they refused to take ebna

                Now they are, of course, praised for that. If in 91 the White House had been smashed to hell and the Sverdlovsk Drunkard had not been brought into the Kremlin, they would have been tried for it. Outright failure to fulfill the Oath, a military crime.

                But, by and large, a well-deserved and worthy of all respect, the Alpha unit is not to blame
                ... the one who shouted from the branches: "The giraffe is big - he knows better ...
                The Humpbacked Dog is to blame for the "democratization" of his ... And that act of "Alpha" (although I do not justify it as a violation of the Oath) is a cost of "democracy". Remember how yesterday's student, a young teacher with a year or two experience of work, was elected by the school staff as the school director. As a turner, again, the team chose the director of the plant. We got to the point that sometimes commanders were elected in the army ... What kind of execution of orders can we talk about if "every gopher is an agronomist" and every soldier will assess the legality or illegality of the order? The basis of any army is the centralization of command functions. And the soldier must think about how to carry out the order, not about whether it is legal or not. That's why the commander is not to give illegal orders.
              3. Siberian54
                Siberian54 5 February 2021 05: 54
                +1
                All means were used to create a systemic crisis: first, "dry law (at school, everyone was taught what the dry law of the USA led to), a slowdown in money turnover and the start of hyperinflation under a planned economy (not enough! The country's economy turned out to be surprisingly plastic and chewed on this nuisance ... at the time of the Chernobyl disaster, elections of leaders were introduced, the destruction of vertical ties with the almost complete absence of horizontal ones threw the country into an uncontrollable crisis with the State Emergency Committee, which instead of tanks at the crossroads and squares of the capital, they began to play classical music -
  • Valter1364
    Valter1364 1 February 2021 13: 12
    +14
    The beginning of the 90s. Moishe came to the OVIR. Is it possible to immigrate to Israel? Yes, you certainly may! Fill in the form here. And in the USA? You can too! And to Australia? Don't fool your head! Here is a globe for you, choose a country and come. The next day, Moisha, who has not slept enough, again comes to the OVIR and returns the globe with the words: "Tell me, do you have another globe?"
  • Mordvin 3
    Mordvin 3 1 February 2021 13: 33
    -2
    Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
    And why is there a booze in France? They are also not satisfied with the local level, do they want another?

    Arranges. Macron is not happy with their reforms.
  • Deck
    Deck 1 February 2021 13: 36
    -5
    And why is there a booze in France?


    From December 5, 2019 in connection with the pension reform.
  • Arlen
    Arlen 1 February 2021 12: 54
    +18
    Quote: Crowe
    The main thing is that the authorities were satisfied

    The main thing is that the people of our country do not follow the enemies. For the enemies who contemptuously call our country "rashka", and our people "slaves" and "slaves" and offer to "get out of the country", but for some reason they themselves do not bring them anywhere.
    The VKPB website has an article titled "Do not be victims of corrupt politicians!" http://vkpb.ru/dokumenty-tsk/864-ne-budte-zhertvami-prodazhnykh-politikov.html
    It says, in particular:
    The liberal "fifth column", supported and financed by the special services of the West, is again sharply activating in Russia ...
    In 2010, on the recommendation of Garry Kasparov, Navalny studied at Yale University, a “school of“ color ”revolutions, which trains“ new world leaders ”to introduce“ agents of influence ”into all spheres of life of other states that are part of the strategic interests of the United States. ...
    Support for Navalny in Russia is not as significant as the media controlled by him and "agents of influence" trumpet about it ...
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 1 February 2021 13: 02
      +8
      For the enemies who contemptuously call our country "rashka", and our people "slaves" and "slaves" and offer to "get out of the country", but for some reason they themselves do not bring them anywhere.

      But those who, like for the Motherland, the vests fight, sitting in the offices, and they themselves have real estate in Miami, children in Londinium, accounts in Switzerland and a residence permit in Italy - who are they to us? Like friends or what? ALL bourgeois are enemies of the people and Russia. Only some are frank, while others hide behind beautiful rhetoric. But all of them - they sell us left and right. Do not entertain yourself with illusions ..
      1. Arlen
        Arlen 1 February 2021 13: 35
        +10
        Or Navalny or Putin? Is the third type not given? An illusion is to think that the bulk is for the good of the people. Sisyan's protestors don't care what and whom to drown, the main thing is what would be against.
        Only a return to Soviet power will help our country.
        Navalny, who designates himself as an obscure "supporter of civil nationalism," does not call for any kind of liberation from exploitation. His demands - to further exempt business from taxes, reduce the presence of the state in the economy, distribute revenues equally between the center and the regions, and cancel the conscription into the army - can also be heard from Putin and Mishustin. Which shows - before us is a product of the same bourgeoisie. Navalny is an element of the system and is the same "main oppositionist" to the existing system, as in his time ebn.
        It is not necessary to change individual elements, but the entire system! And the struggle must go for the people and the Soviet power! And not for the enemy of the bulk people
        1. Jaromir
          Jaromir 1 February 2021 16: 34
          0
          Quote: Arlen
          Or Navalny or Putin? Is the third type not given?

        2. paul3390
          paul3390 1 February 2021 18: 39
          0
          I say - bulk is the same enemy as Putin. Only while hungry ...
      2. Deck
        Deck 1 February 2021 13: 42
        -2
        But those who, like for the Motherland, telniks fight, sitting in offices, and they themselves have real estate in Miami, children in Londinium, accounts in Switzerland and a residence permit in Italy - who are they to us? Like friends or what?


        Many people on this forum are undoubtedly friends. Pensions, pay, salary, seniority pension. For pitiful crumbs from the master's table, you can close your eyes to a lot. If only the bowl was not rocked so that the soup would not spill.
        1. Odysseus
          Odysseus 1 February 2021 14: 48
          +6
          Quote: Deck
          Many people on this forum are undoubtedly friends. Pensions, pay, salary, seniority pension. For pitiful crumbs from the master's table, you can close your eyes to a lot. If only the bowl is not rocked so that the soup does not splash

          Yes exactly. The real motivation of the "internal security officials" of the lower echelon and pensioners of these services is precisely this.
          Moreover, if the government changes, they will faithfully listen to any government, whether it be Americans, even independent Tatarstan or Krasnodar. They will be happy to bludgeon everyone who is for Russia, if only there was a ration and a pension.
          When Navalny comes to power, the next day they will bludgeon the Putinites (if we hypothetically assume that the next day after his departure, there will be at least one Putinist). True, they have existential scores with Navalny - he announced in advance that he would reduce the number of internal security officials and their funding. This is the only thing that they cannot forgive anyone. Therefore, for them he is a terrible byaka-buka.
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 1 February 2021 19: 41
            0
            Quote: Odyssey
            Yes exactly. The real motivation of the "internal security officials" of the lower echelon and pensioners of these services is precisely this.

            What do you live on?
          2. Viktor.N.Aleksandrov.
            Viktor.N.Aleksandrov. 1 February 2021 21: 52
            0
            "Odysseus", judge by yourself?
        2. Dart2027
          Dart2027 1 February 2021 19: 41
          0
          Quote: Deck
          Pensions, pay, salary, seniority pension.

          And you can give up everything and wear rags - who is against?
      3. bistrov.
        bistrov. 1 February 2021 14: 44
        +3
        Quote: paul3390
        ALL bourgeois are enemies of the people and Russia.

        Where were you in 91, when the USSR and socialism were falling apart? I suppose you also wanted jeans and sausages? Now reap all the "charms" and grimaces of capitalism ...
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 1 February 2021 18: 46
          +1
          Why don't you ask where I was, for example, in 1917? In 91 - I was 25 years old, and like any Soviet person - I didn't understand a damn what was really going on. After all, how it was - our type of leaders told us that there would be the same socialism, only more beautiful and more awkward .. Nobody even stuttered about capitalism. So there is no need to splash saliva on the monitor - then they just threw us like suckers. For something, and that, and the fact that our own leaders would sell us, no one at all expected from us .. Which, of course, does not excuse us ...
          1. Siberian54
            Siberian54 2 February 2021 09: 28
            +1
            You are right - all the press and other voices were hanging noodles on their ears and it was impossible for a person from the street to figure out this freebie. the situation was - a criminal is a swindler, proved by the court, he is going to be treated in another state "as a personal guest of the chancellor").
    2. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 1 February 2021 14: 05
      +6
      All sorts of navalnysh and sterninians on YouTube call and say that the training manual is one and then ...

      When candidates appear for the Soviet regime, the establishment of order in the world and the destruction of the fascist West, I will be the first to vote.
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    3. parma
      parma 1 February 2021 14: 42
      +4
      Quote: Arlen
      Quote: Crowe
      The main thing is that the authorities were satisfied

      The main thing is that the people of our country do not follow the enemies. For the enemies who contemptuously call our country "rashka", and our people "slaves" and "slaves" and offer to "get out of the country", but for some reason they themselves do not bring them anywhere.
      The VKPB website has an article titled "Do not be victims of corrupt politicians!" http://vkpb.ru/dokumenty-tsk/864-ne-budte-zhertvami-prodazhnykh-politikov.html
      It says, in particular:
      The liberal "fifth column", supported and financed by the special services of the West, is again sharply activating in Russia ...
      In 2010, on the recommendation of Garry Kasparov, Navalny studied at Yale University, a “school of“ color ”revolutions, which trains“ new world leaders ”to introduce“ agents of influence ”into all spheres of life of other states that are part of the strategic interests of the United States. ...
      Support for Navalny in Russia is not as significant as the media controlled by him and "agents of influence" trumpet about it ...

      The children of Mr. Vekselberg studied at Yale, and he is on the Federation Council ... and what Navalny is struggling with, the United States has long ago introduced agents and traitors to the right places, and there are also other big people who have children who have studied in the states ...
  • halpat
    halpat 1 February 2021 13: 10
    +3
    Quote: Crowe
    The main thing is that the authorities are satisfied. We will not rock the boat. We do not want it, like in France. Why, in fact? I just want the standard of living of the people to be like in France, why not ...

    Standard story about living standards smile
    Tell me better: I would use the same salary as in France, and let the expenses remain at the Russian level. It will be more honest.
    And if you (like many others) seriously believe that the "people of France" are mad with fat and go to demonstrations so that they put butter cream on a cake in 2 layers, and not in one, then you are deeply mistaken.
    The average salary in France is 3000 euros before taxes, after paying about 2400 euros, and this salary is not enough for life, not for foie gras with oysters. Housing rent, utility bills, gasoline and just food are several times more expensive there than in Russia.
    Gasoline 1,4 euros per liter, for example, that is, 129 rubles per liter. Almost 3 times more expensive than in Russia.
    And so on and so forth.
    So it goes.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 1 February 2021 13: 19
      +12
      Quote: Halpat
      Housing rent, utility bills, gasoline and just food there are several times more expensive than in Russia.

      Why are you doing propaganda lies? Food prices in the European Union are absolutely comparable to ours and even lower, but much better in quality.
      Quote: Halpat
      Gasoline 1,4 euros per liter, for example, that is, 129 rubles per liter. Almost 3 times more expensive than in Russia.
      And so on and so forth.

      Well, yes, if we consider that the ruble is undervalued by 2,5 times, and if the rulers come up with another drop, then you will provide us with data on the high cost of 10 times, only all your calculations can be safely sent to the toilet.
      1. halpat
        halpat 1 February 2021 13: 36
        +4
        Why accuse me of lying and propaganda, if you yourself do not know how much smile
        Granulated sugar in Russia is 40-45 rubles per 1 kg, and you need to look, since it is almost all 900 grams. in a package, not a kilogram.
        Granulated sugar extra 80-82 rubles per 1 kg.
        In Finland, 0,99 euros per 1 kg - ordinary granulated sugar, and "extra" up to 3,5 euros per 1 kg. and 900 gr. nobody slips smile
        And so on.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 1 February 2021 13: 53
          +15
          Quote: Halpat
          Why accuse me of lying and propaganda, if you yourself do not know how much

          If you follow your logic, then in the Russian Federation there should be no products at all, because with such a low price, the world market would quickly use them, only I am not watching the most powerful line for domestic sausage.
          PySy. The topic of food prices has already been chewed on VO and even spit out. laughing
          1. halpat
            halpat 1 February 2021 15: 00
            +1
            Quote: Stroporez
            Quote: Halpat
            Why accuse me of lying and propaganda, if you yourself do not know how much

            If you follow your logic, then in the Russian Federation there should be no products at all, because with such a low price, the world market would quickly use them, only I am not watching the most powerful line for domestic sausage.
            PySy. The topic of food prices has already been chewed on VO and even spit out. laughing

            It's not so simple with food. Producers and would be happy to talk over the hill, get money and so on. Such attempts are happening all the time. The government regulates this process. This is the first thing.
            And the second is that, for example, you will not sell sugar or butter to Europe, you will simply not be allowed in. And the point here is not in high European standards (one of the types of state protectionism), but in the thing called "food security" of the state or the European Union.
            That is, each state retains its producers of products, subsidizes and so on, just in case, as they say.
            But it's not about food prices. This is particular. Or a component of what is called the standard of living.
            So the standard of living in the West is far from what it was 20 years ago. I have absolutely no doubt about that.
            And therefore, when someone says: I would like a salary, like in France (Germany, Britain), then you must always measure it with the level of necessary living costs, for primary needs.
            And so in Russia, for example, the income tax is 13%.
            Do you want French from 22% to 59%, average 45%? Or Norwegian at 38% and up to 55%? Not? Why?
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 1 February 2021 15: 14
              +14
              Quote: Halpat
              And so in Russia, for example, the income tax is 13%.
              Do you want French from 22% to 59%, average 45%? Or Norwegian at 38% and up to 55%? Not? Why?

              You forget that in many app. countries taxation is progressive, there they do not take anything from the poor, there are also social housing and social services. citizen support packages.
              For me, the question is not about where what are the prices, but about how the citizens of the richest country in the world live worse than the Poles and Finns, who do not have such natural resources.
            2. Deck
              Deck 1 February 2021 15: 37
              -2
              And so in Russia, for example, the income tax is 13%.
              Do you want French from 22% to 59%, average 45%? Or Norwegian at 38% and up to 55%? Not? Why?


              Study your country's tax system. Yet:
              Pension fund contributions 22%
              Contributions to the Social Insurance Fund 2,9%
              Contributions to the FFOMS (for medicine) 5,1%

              Only 13% + 30%
              And from this VAT 20%. Somewhere 51%. This is the minimum.
              The company in this case is your tax agent. So 22% of French or 38% of Norwegian really want it.
              1. halpat
                halpat 1 February 2021 16: 14
                +1
                Quote: Deck
                And so in Russia, for example, the income tax is 13%.
                Do you want French from 22% to 59%, average 45%? Or Norwegian at 38% and up to 55%? Not? Why?


                Study your country's tax system. Yet:
                Pension fund contributions 22%
                Contributions to the Social Insurance Fund 2,9%
                Contributions to the FFOMS (for medicine) 5,1%

                Only 13% + 30%
                And from this VAT 20%. Somewhere 51%. This is the minimum.
                The company in this case is your tax agent. So 22% of French or 38% of Norwegian really want it.

                laughing laughing
                Do you think that social, medical, pension and other contributions are not paid in Norway or France or Finland? Like a freebie? Well, at least google it a bit. Do not disgrace yourself.
                They are bigger than Russian ones too.
                Do you see them on your payroll in Russia? You don't see.
                Your employer pays them.
                It is the same in the West - the employee does not see these contributions.
                1. Deck
                  Deck 1 February 2021 16: 17
                  -3
                  Excuse me, where did you get this nonsense? In the best case, the company pays for medical insurance
                2. halpat
                  halpat 1 February 2021 18: 13
                  0
                  Quote: Deck
                  Excuse me, where did you get this nonsense? In the best case, the company pays for medical insurance

                  wassat fellow
                  I have no more questions.
                  it is useless to talk to a person living with some kind of fantasies.
                3. Dart2027
                  Dart2027 1 February 2021 19: 43
                  +1
                  Quote: Deck
                  Excuse me, where did you get this nonsense?

                  Said a man who does not quote anything at all except fairy tales.
            3. ZEMCH
              ZEMCH 1 February 2021 19: 47
              +2
              Quote: Deck
              The company in this case is your tax agent. So 22% of French or 38% of Norwegian really want it.

              So there is also a corporate tax, we do not have it, but there are contributions from the payroll, google how much insurance is in Europe, and how much it costs to get sick!)))
              I lay in Austria for a week, the company paid almost 15000 euros for me
    2. Deck
      Deck 1 February 2021 13: 45
      -6
      There is no vehicle tax, junk fees, GLONAS tax, etc. Everything is in excise duty which makes the price of fuel high
      1. halpat
        halpat 1 February 2021 16: 22
        0
        Quote: Deck
        There is no vehicle tax, junk fees, GLONAS tax, etc. Everything is in excise duty which makes the price of fuel high

        Etishka's life smile You have clearly never lived in Europe on a permanent basis. smile
        If you have not paid autovero - car tax in Finland. Then you will be stopped on the road, your license plates will be removed, a fine will be slapped and your car will be parked in a police or border parking lot. In Finland, for example, not only the police, but also the border guard and customs are responsible for the control over the payment of the car tax.
        This is approximately the same in all EU countries.
        Well, of course there is no tax on GLONASS smile It's true laughing
        1. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 1 February 2021 16: 35
          -4
          Quote: Halpat
          If you have not paid autovero - car tax in Finland.

          In fact, it is a customs duty on an imported clunker. A very good tax for lovers of Geldings and other Boomers.
          1. halpat
            halpat 1 February 2021 18: 07
            +1
            Quote: mordvin xnumx
            Quote: Halpat
            If you have not paid autovero - car tax in Finland.

            In fact, it is a customs duty on an imported clunker. A very good tax for lovers of Geldings and other Boomers.

            In a hurry I wrote the wrong name smile

            1. autovero - there is a "car tax" actually a customs duty, yes + Finnish vat 24% smile this is for the import and customs clearance of any car.

            2. ajoneuvovero - exactly the vehicle tax, which is paid annually, if you have not paid, then you will reach the first police patrol and everything that I wrote in the previous post will be.
            smile

            welcome to Europe.
            Just remember that in Europe buns do not hang on trees and the so-called "social" ... well, unless it will not let you die of hunger, you will not be able to heal. Everything is counted by Western bureaucracies to the last euro cent :))
  • krops777
    krops777 1 February 2021 14: 01
    +7
    I just want the standard of living of the people to be like in France, why not ...


    25 requirements of the French "yellow vests":

    1. Economy and Labor. Convocation of a popular assembly for tax reform. Legislative prohibition on taxes exceeding 25% of a citizen's wealth.

    2. An immediate 40% increase in minimum wages, pensions and the cost of living.

    3. Immediately create new jobs in health, education, public transport, law and order, etc. to ensure the proper functioning of all infrastructures.

    4. Immediately begin construction of 5 million units of affordable housing, thereby ensuring a reduction in rents, mortgages and job creation in the construction industry. Strictly punish the city hall and regional administration leaving the homeless in the open.

    5. Reduce the size of banks and break the banking monopolies, thereby protecting the financial sector from the crisis. Prohibit banks with depositors from engaging in stock speculation. Prohibit “saving” illiquid banks with taxpayers' money.

    6. To annul domestic debt as a fiction. Such a debt does not exist, it has already been paid many times in a row.

    7. With popular support, rewrite the Constitution in the interests of the sovereignty of the people. Legalize general referendums on popular initiative.

    8. Prohibit lobbying and influence schemes. To prohibit persons with a criminal record for life holding elected office. Prohibit holding several concurrently elected posts.

    9. Frexit. Leave the EU, return our political, financial and economic sovereignty (this was the will of the people in the 2005 referendum). Resume the circulation of your own currency by exiting the Lisbon Treaty. Even this one measure will already save us 50 billion euros a year.

    10. Stop the practice of tax evasion. To return 80 billion euros, which the largest 40 companies owe to the state, which is in no hurry to claim them.

    11. Immediately stop further privatization and return to the state ownership of already privatized property: airports, railways and highways, parking lots ...

    12. Immediately remove radars and stop cameras from the roads. They are useless in preventing road accidents and are nothing more than a veiled tax.

    13. National education system - exclude ideology from education and critically review destructive and discredited teaching methods.

    14. In the field of justice - to quadruple the budget. Prescribe in laws the maximum allowed waiting time for legal procedures. Simplify the judiciary. Make justice free and accessible to all.

    15. Mass media. Break the media monopolies, eradicate nepotism between the media and politicians. Make the media publicly available and guarantee a diversity of opinion. Prohibit editorial propaganda. Stop subsidies to the media - 2 billion a year. Stop tax breaks for journalists.

    16. Guarantee civil liberties. To register in the Constitution a complete ban on state interference in education, health care and the institution of the family.

    17. Environment and health. By law, equipment manufacturers are obliged to extend the shelf life to at least 10 years. To oblige them to have spare parts available.

    18. As soon as possible, prohibit the production and circulation of plastic containers and other packaging that pollute the environment.

    19. Limit the impact of pharmaceutical companies on the healthcare system. Hold a popular health care reform congress.

    20. Agriculture. Ban GMOs, pesticides suspected of developing cancer and pathology of the endocrine system. Prohibit the use of agricultural land without rotation of crops.

    21. To re-carry out the industrialization of the country, in order to abandon imports, as causing the greatest harm to the environment.

    22. Foreign policy. Leave NATO immediately. Prohibit by law the use of French troops in wars of aggression.

    23. Relations between France and Africa. Stop the policy of robbery, stop military and political interference. Give the money and property of the dictators, ill-gotten, to the people of Africa. Immediately return French troops home. End the CFA franc system [approx. - the colonial system obliges African countries to keep foreign exchange reserves - and pay for this "pleasure" in the central bank of France] with the system that keeps Africa in poverty. Negotiate as equals with equals.

    24. Stop the flow of immigrants, a flow that we have no means to accept or integrate, and which has plunged our country into a deepest crisis that endangers our survival.

    25. In foreign policy - exclusive respect for international law and signed agreements.

    Don't let these 25 measures change our daily life overnight. But even points 9 and 10 will bring 130 billion to the treasury. France is a country rich in brave and hardworking people. We don't deserve to live in poverty.

    Judging because they demanded yellow vests, I don't want it like in France.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 1 February 2021 20: 09
      -3
      I read these requirements. Solid populism and several mutually exclusive points. I would be French, I would not support these "yellow vests".
  • bistrov.
    bistrov. 1 February 2021 14: 26
    +3
    Quote: Crowe
    I now want the standard of living of the people to be like in France

    Well, come on, go there, get a job there, work, maybe find it difficult to get a job as a janitor, doorkeeper or dishwasher, you will eat canned cat food and noodles, and live in some kennel called "studio", without heating, " Sorbonne "- you probably didn't finish?, We will watch, then, when you escape from there, we will laugh together ...
    In order for the standard of living to be like in France, which, by the way, if you count everything, is not much higher than in Russia, you need not hold meetings, but work and earn money, and to earn money you need to study and work, work, work all your life ... , almost always for 12-16 hours ...
    No one is going to create this "level" for you, you do not live under socialism, but under capitalism, where, as you know, "... man is a wolf to man ..." and not "friend, brother and comrade ..."
    Somewhere like this ..., hehe ...
  • midivan
    midivan 1 February 2021 15: 12
    +3
    Quote: Crowe
    The main thing is that the authorities are satisfied. We will not rock the boat. We do not want, as in France.

    We are reluctant, but apparently not to be avoided, if the authorities do not begin to "catch mice", personally I was hooked yesterday by one nuance and this is not here in Russia. Here we "carry" we carry ice cream to a friend, brother Xi, he cracks it with happiness in his eyes, and in the meantime, yesterday came across an account in tiktok openly calling for a rally and the overthrow of the government, do not even Alex come out, but Putin leave, well, there relevant tips for the crowd. I sank a little, stepped on my pride and decided for the first time in my life to write a complaint to the developers, explaining who they lost (politely and culturally) - I even got an answer ... I'll throw the screen below, I can't insert it here ...
    1. midivan
      midivan 1 February 2021 15: 18
      0
      I don't understand what's going on, but it's really not easy, developers please make it easier to work with photos and videos here.
    2. midivan
      midivan 1 February 2021 15: 25
      +1
      In general, the screen is not inserted and they write that the text is very short sad sad But the point is that - that account does not reiterate the site's policy ...
  • Vadim237
    Vadim237 1 February 2021 18: 09
    -2
    "I now want the standard of living of the people to be the same as in France, why not ..." Many only want all the Wishlist to be smashed against the harsh reality - this requires economic growth by at least 15% per year, and since Russia is under investment trade sanctions with the oil price of $ 55 and the world economy in stagnation, the minimum demand for almost everything because of the crown, we have the fact that we have an economic growth of 2-3% per year and I doubt that in the next 10 years it will surpass the 6% growth per year.
  • zenion
    zenion 1 February 2021 19: 36
    0
    Crowe. For a good life, as in France, you have to put your face under the batons, as in France.
  • g1v2
    g1v2 2 February 2021 07: 06
    +1
    Or maybe you want it because France is a tourist destination for you, not real life? That guy not so long ago just laid out videos about how he lives in France. Real, not drawn by your imagination. Look and then it will become clearer to you why the French go to protests. belay
    Not at all because they got drunk, but because the pr-in leaves for Asia and maintain that standard of living. to which the French once got used to it is already impossible. Today's French people live worse than their previous generations. belay
    Our population has never lived better than under the "bloody Putin regime". Not under Ben in the 90s, not under Mecheny or carriage races in the 80s, not even with the relatively stable Brezhnev stagnation. And certainly not under Khrushchev or under Stalin, despite all the successes of the latter. They lived then, to put it mildly, not rich. We live better now than our ancestors, and the French are worse than their ancestors. Hence the relative calmness of the bulk of the population in our country and such turbulence in the bulk of the population there. request
    Well, there will always be fighters. As well as problems, of course. And the desire of our foreign competitors to use them for their own purposes. And they will still have opportunities. Problems that have been solved will always be replaced by new ones. One or two wars await us in the next decade. the main phase of the global economic crisis, which cannot but affect us. Further, a change of power, if you are lucky there will be a transfer, if you are not lucky - a struggle for power. GDP in any case is not eternal and not young. And I don’t remember the cases when after a powerful ruler an equally powerful one came to us. There will be a lot of vulnerabilities and crises in our state in the near future. And those who want to use them too. request
  • credo
    credo 1 February 2021 13: 10
    +1
    Quote: loki565
    Everyone was happy and this is the most important thing)))
    https://vk.com/video-123538639_456266341

    And you there, following the Author, drown this topic with obscene conclusions.
    The author did not have enough intelligence or desire to think that for the authorities it is a headache, financial costs, an increase in the risk of diseases during an epidemic, the costs of protecting those citizens who do not want to participate in this mess, fights and riots and do not support slogans and " investigation of "Navalny, protection of property of third parties, and so on."
    1. loki565
      loki565 1 February 2021 13: 15
      +3
      Rather, the author tried to defuse the situation, well, maybe he went too far with humor.
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  • yehat2
    yehat2 1 February 2021 14: 12
    +3
    the authorities quite cleverly leave in the background the main gesture that they do,
    namely, they in every possible way interfere with the gathering and mutual communication of people on social topics in order to come to common requirements, as well as the expression of their requirements and control over their implementation.
    Everything from non-permissions, clouds of "random" events that hinder people, security officials, provocateurs, the hunt for instigators and activists are used.
    Yes, in our country the siloviki are generally relatively correct, but they only mask other aspects of the government's pressure. For example, the police station has become absolutely beyond the control of ordinary residents. They can complain, but they can no longer do anything.
    One can clearly see the quiet work of the authorities in preparation for the elections, when again "accidentally" over and over again there is simply no one to choose except the nucleus. And why? Any other movements and initiatives simply get bogged down in tricky artificial restrictions, the need for permits and examinations, reprisals against activists have become the norm. Take Platoshkin. Why can't you see it? Yes, because he has been under house arrest for almost a year, and it is still unclear (!!!) what charge.
    Or take laws such as increasing the retirement age.
    Find at least one deputy who voted for this law according to the will of his voters!
    But this happens all the time, in different directions. For example, I am enraged by the hellish decline in the quality of food in stores. It happens that there is simply nothing to buy to eat without harm.
    What about education? I'm sure there is an army of 20 million disgruntled parents.
    And the relative correctness of the police will not be able to hold back anger from what is happening for long.
    Navalny is dangerous to the authorities not as a politician or an investigator, but as an object that can consolidate the accumulated discontent by its existence.
    I can only say that the excitement this weekend is a very light version of what will happen in the spring and summer. events from the Far East and a whole list of other points show that people's anger is already becoming greater than the fear of the consequences of protests.
    So far, mostly young people are at risk. But when a layer of serious family workers turns on, it will be hell.
  • A1845
    A1845 1 February 2021 14: 43
    +6
    The organizers of the protests managed to get the necessary picture of tough police actions in order to demand from the West the introduction of new sanctions against Russia.
    stupid .. no grounds are required for anti-Russian sanctions, everyone knows that
  • Baloo
    Baloo 1 February 2021 16: 35
    0
    It's good that there is no US embassy in my city. Otherwise, the crowd would also run around the city center to warm up.
  • Obliterator
    Obliterator 1 February 2021 16: 37
    +1
    Quote: Victor_B
    Battle of masochists with riot police!
    Both sides enjoyed it.

    The riot police and the soldiers of the operational police regiments do not get any pleasure from the riots. For them, this day off, turned into a working day, and the most vile type of working day.
  • Snarkxnumx
    Snarkxnumx 1 February 2021 16: 57
    -3
    You meant to say sadists to masochists
  • Vend
    Vend 1 February 2021 19: 49
    -1
    Among the protestors, some well-fed faces, what are they unhappy with? laughing laughing
  • Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 1 February 2021 11: 48
    +2
    Both the authorities and the opposition were satisfied with the results of yesterday's protests


    It is clear that the people let off steam, and the troublemakers themselves, who embarrass the people at such actions, will be jailed, quite possibly for a long time.
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 1 February 2021 11: 50
      +1
      Quote: General of the Sand Quarries
      and the troublemakers themselves, who embarrass people at such actions, will be jailed, quite possibly for a long time.

      Yes, it seems, we caught it in marketable quantities.
      Now, the main thing is that the real criminal terms are written out for the most active ones, and for the rest - conditional ones.
      And to be generous! To the maximum!
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 12: 08
        -5
        Quote: Victor_B
        And to be generous! To the maximum!

        Yesterday there was a video where a freak with a truncheon jumped on the riot police. Explicit staging. Too nice throw over the hip, and too soft hold. I would like to see a UD with a name for this particular episode.
        And basically the people walked peacefully, many adults, although the media created a clip image of some minors. The riot police detained for no apparent reason, in a chaotic manner, which in my opinion is wrong. Such actions do not add confidence to the authorities.
        1. Victor_B
          Victor_B 1 February 2021 12: 13
          +4
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          OMON detained for no apparent reason, in chaotic

          This is not a fact!
          I suppose they looked out more for activists and caught them.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 12: 19
            -9
            Watch the video of how Shevchenko was detained. And there are many others.
            1. Victor_B
              Victor_B 1 February 2021 12: 20
              +7
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Watch the video of how Shevchenko was detained.

              And he just passed by ...
              The primus was repaired!
              Aha
              Its not sinful, but necessary!
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 12: 23
                -4
                Walked along the street, without slogans. It is forbidden? See 31 Art. constitution.
                Do not agree? Then the answer is that he violated?
                1. Victor_B
                  Victor_B 1 February 2021 12: 26
                  +4
                  Igor, well you, really, what a child it is!
                  Shevchenko is quite an active member of the opposition party.
                  It seems not the most ardent, but quite noticeable and he knew exactly how this campaign would end for him and deliberately didn’t get into trouble.
                  He was smart enough not to fight the security forces.
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 12: 30
                    0
                    I repeat - did he violate something? Or called for something? Or is the fact that he is a communist already a reason for detention?
                    1. Victor_B
                      Victor_B 1 February 2021 12: 37
                      +7
                      He stomped with his feet where there was no need to stomp.
                      It is no coincidence that he "walked" there. Not by chance. I got exactly what I wanted.
                      Do not suffer for him! His authority among the bulk has only grown! For this and flop!
                      1. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 13: 13
                        -1
                        Quote: Victor_B
                        He stomped with his feet where there was no need to stomp.

                        Where should you stomp? You have no legal justification. This is where you get on a very slippery path, justifying absolute lawlessness.
                        Here is a video of people walking with cheesecakes and children. And they began to knit the boy for a brush, which became an unspoken symbol of protest.
                        This is one hundred percent excess of power.
                      2. Alex Justice
                        Alex Justice 1 February 2021 19: 15
                        0
                        This is one hundred percent excess of power.

                        How to say. We didn't see what happened before.
                      3. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 19: 37
                        0
                        Yes, yes, he peed in the wrong place a year before! laughing
        2. Mykhalych
          Mykhalych 1 February 2021 12: 58
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Watch the video of how Shevchenko was detained. And there are many others.

          Urgently: Mikhail Volkov, Garry Kasparov, Ilya Yashin and Vladimir Bukovsky organized riots in France, Poland, the Netherlands ... Nothing is required. So hang out.
          1. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 13: 18
            -2
            Quote: Mykhalych
            So hang out.

            Do you know what annoys me the most about people like you? It is that ardent zaputintsy avatars themselves choose opposite views. One chose Beria, you are the coat of arms of the USSR. Although your beloved guarantor Beria is considered an executioner, and the USSR is a backward scoop, unable to do anything but produce galoshes.
            Aren't you ashamed to cling to someone else's symbolism?
            1. Mykhalych
              Mykhalych 1 February 2021 13: 33
              +1
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Do you know what annoys me the most about people like you?

              Born in the USSR. He served an urgent term 85-87, contract 92-98. I vote for Putin. Go, pass by. hi
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 1 February 2021 15: 46
                +10
                Quote: Mykhalych
                I vote for Putin. Go, come on by

                Yes, you even vote for a horned elephant, only the coat of arms of the USSR has anything to do with it?
                1. KAV
                  KAV 1 February 2021 18: 59
                  -2
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Yes, you even vote for a horned elephant, only the coat of arms of the USSR has anything to do with it?
                  It is quite obvious here that you are not able to distinguish the quality mark of the USSR from the coat of arms of the USSR. Wouldn't be a shame ...
            2. Roman123567
              Roman123567 1 February 2021 13: 47
              +1
              Neither ours nor yours ..
              It was he who prepared to change his shoes, in case the tsar was nevertheless taken out of the Kremlin ..))
    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 1 February 2021 12: 17
      +10
      Quote: Ingvar 72
      The riot police detained for no apparent reason, in a chaotic manner, which in my opinion is wrong. Such actions do not add confidence to the authorities.

      Unreasonable cruelty will only cause anger and response cruelty.
  • zadorin1974
    zadorin1974 1 February 2021 12: 09
    +2
    Yes nifiga will not. Youngsters will be threatened with a finger, activists will be given a day or a fine of five rubles. That is all. We wonder why so? Any citizen can call our country "Rashka", both ours and foreigners. that, without embarrassment, even on a blue eye, even on the Internet. And everyone is waist-deep. Employees can be called fascists in the face, they can throw snowballs and bottles to everyone. In the EU and mattresses, a police officer would have dragged such people through the courts for insult for disrespect for the country and the Flag of the deadline. But it is evident that WE have long lost respect for OURSELVES. Soon, our kids, as in the states, will hand over to HYIP on Tik-Tok.
    1. parma
      parma 1 February 2021 15: 14
      -2
      Quote: zadorin1974
      Yes nifiga will not. Youngsters will be threatened with a finger, activists will be given a day or a fine of five rubles. That is all. We wonder why so? Any citizen can call our country "Rashka", both ours and foreigners. that, without embarrassment, even on a blue eye, even on the Internet. And everyone is waist-deep. Employees can be called fascists in the face, they can throw snowballs and bottles to everyone. In the EU and mattresses, a police officer would have dragged such people through the courts for insult for disrespect for the country and the Flag of the deadline. But it is evident that WE have long lost respect for OURSELVES. Soon, our kids, as in the states, will hand over to HYIP on Tik-Tok.

      Look at the statistics of detentions during the summer protests in the USA)) there the percentage of detainees tends to 0 .. and you are all about the shooting and the timing ... you probably meant Belarus ... well, yes, we are going the same way, and the leader of our the country looks more and more like a dad ...
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 19: 46
        +2
        Quote: parma
        and the leader of our country looks more and more like a dad ...

        If. The old man keeps the oligarchs on a short leash, he does not twist money in offshores. Yes, sly, but is that bad for the president?
        Yesterday I looked at Semyon Pegov (WarGonzo), completely disappointed in a person. In Belarus, he clearly positioned himself on the side of the protesters, even got rid of the riot police, yesterday he hid behind the backs of our riot police, branding the people who came out to protest. A prostitute, not a military journalist.
      2. zadorin1974
        zadorin1974 1 February 2021 20: 50
        +1
        You, I hope, have statistics on the police and sheriffs of the states or federals? You will be very surprised at the discrepancies. You will talk to the residents of the VSA, our former. They, although they flood our country with mud, but do not whistle on foreign life.
  • paul3390
    paul3390 1 February 2021 12: 12
    -3
    According to the united press service of the city courts, in Peterhof, materials were examined on 32 citizens who were simultaneously in one place, moving in one direction and thereby disturbing public order.

    I am crap, dear editorial staff, from such court formulations .. belay That way, at any plant in the morning and after work, you can pack violators in trains. fool
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 1 February 2021 12: 13
      +7
      Quote: paul3390
      I crap, dear editorial office, from such court formulations .. That way, at any plant in the morning and after work, you can pack violators in trains ..

      These can do anything.
    2. volodimer
      volodimer 1 February 2021 12: 44
      0
      Unfortunately...
      That way, at any plant in the morning and after work, you can pack violators in trains
      ... it was under the USSR. My street ... led from several factories to a transport "hub". The people really walked in columns. I met my grandfather and managed ... in practice, after the 1st year, to walk this street. The words of the song "I love you life" at that moment were felt quite unambiguously. I was not a cog, but a participant in something big and significant.
      Now most of the area of ​​factories is shopping centers. Production (there were also defense workshops, I worked in this in practice) shrank to a minimum.
      Okay, this is the lyrics. But then no one would even think of the hard workers to pack. They were ready for each other for anything. And the "law enforcers" were not such scumbags. Soon the word "cop" will not be a curse, but a compliment to a police officer who honestly does his job.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 1 February 2021 12: 56
        +1
        The people really walked in columns.

        I myself went to my native Kirovsky plant for 5 years .. And to pack the hard workers - but the whole plant would immediately stand on end. And not one of ours. There were some precedents - at one hint of a booze, the power returned. But why would the proletarian state screw the proletarians?
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 1 February 2021 12: 12
    -3
    Quote: Victor_B
    Yes, it seems, we caught it in marketable quantities.
    Now, the main thing is that the real criminal terms are written out for the most active ones, and for the rest - conditional ones.
    And to be generous! To the maximum!

    Provocateurs must be imprisoned, and on both sides. And faster, otherwise there will be blood, is anyone interested in this?
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 1 February 2021 12: 15
      +5
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      otherwise there will be blood, is anyone interested in this?

      Yes, the organizers of this whole movement are interested!
      The main thing is that the "unknown snipers" are not allowed to pull up ...
      1. aleksejkabanets
        aleksejkabanets 1 February 2021 12: 29
        -7
        Quote: Victor_B
        Yes, the organizers of this whole movement are interested!
        The main thing is that the "unknown snipers" are not allowed to pull up ...

        And the "unknown snipers" are the "organic development" of these provocations, if you do not stop them now, and from both sides, then it will be too late.
        1. Victor_B
          Victor_B 1 February 2021 12: 32
          +1
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          And "unknown snipers" are the "organic development" of these provocations, if you do not stop them now, and on both sides, then it will be too late.
          So it will be more correct!
          From the side of the "bloody redhead" they will never be.
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 1 February 2021 15: 26
            -4
            Quote: Victor_B
            From the side of the "bloody redhead" they will never be.

            The film was like that once "Never say never". If there are no “footballers” among the riot police, then they will quickly deal with the galloping youngsters. Adults at rallies usually behave with restraint.
  • Zoldat_A
    Zoldat_A 1 February 2021 13: 06
    +2
    Quote: Victor_B
    Now, the main thing is that the real criminal terms are written out for the most active ones, and for the rest - conditional ones.

    Why conditional. We have such a wonderful invention as "chemistry". Let them work for the economy of the hated country. And it is useful for them to put their brains in the right place, and in the country.
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  • Alien From
    Alien From 1 February 2021 13: 00
    +3
    And the fact that ordinary citizens could not get where they need to or just take a walk in the center, no one cares?
  • Pilot
    Pilot 1 February 2021 11: 49
    -5
    The protests are clearly being radicalized and the authorities are happy. Surrrr. Yesterday, Fontanka, reported on the use of gas and stun guns by the security forces in St. Petersburg, which had not happened before.
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 1 February 2021 11: 55
      +2
      Quote: Pilot
      The protests are clearly being radicalized and the authorities are happy. Surrrr. Yesterday, Fontanka, reported on the use of gas and stun guns by the security forces in St. Petersburg, which had not happened before.

      The fighters against the regime still do not understand that the circumstances have changed, they will be imprisoned and pressed harder ...
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 1 February 2021 12: 06
        +2
        Well, yes, with the regime - of course there is no way to fight. The pitching of a cruise yacht is contraindicated. With all my rejection of the navalner, I still want to ask, so what do we have for the Constitution? Which kind of treats about freedom of assembly and meeting? And in which not a fig says that they should be allowed by someone ..
        The thesis that the protesters like to interfere with someone - after yesterday's in general is ridiculous. In St. Petersburg, the policemen in general paralyzed the whole city for hell, no bulk would have achieved such a result. One mat stood ..
        Why am I interested - judging by the activities of our authorities, the left will soon climb into the streets. Yes, everything. There will simply be no other choice. So curious what to expect ..
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 1 February 2021 12: 11
          -2
          Quote: paul3390
          So I'm curious about what to expect.

          Manna from heaven and the forest of paradise ...
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 1 February 2021 12: 14
            0
            Manna from heaven and the forest of paradise ...

            You shouldn't take all the promises of your own president for 20 years so seriously .. wink
            1. Nasrat
              Nasrat 1 February 2021 12: 17
              -4
              Quote: paul3390
              Manna from heaven and the forest of paradise ...

              You shouldn't take all the promises of your own president for 20 years so seriously .. wink

              20 years??? but what about those builders of communism, who were promised the completion of construction by the 80s? .... So expect what is said!
              1. NDR-791
                NDR-791 1 February 2021 12: 38
                -3
                20 years??? But what about those builders of communism, who were promised the completion of construction by the 80s? ...
                Yeah, and each family has a separate apartment by 2000. We have experienced it all, we know the price of all these promises very well. If the state didn’t interfere with life, then we will somehow manage ourselves.
              2. paul3390
                paul3390 1 February 2021 12: 52
                0
                This was promised by the idiot Trotskyist Khruschev. The communists never promised such stupidity. For communism - it is primarily in the minds and hearts .. It is basically impossible to build it in one generation .. Byeaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa all like you will exterminate. laughing
                1. Nasrat
                  Nasrat 1 February 2021 13: 50
                  -3
                  Quote: paul3390
                  This was promised by the golimy Trotskyist Khrushchev:

                  Trotskyist, Stalinist ... would you better explain how this "cook" became a leader? From the bay floundering or what? Moreover (for that time!), Having Trotskyist manners?
                  1. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 1 February 2021 17: 46
                    0
                    Quote: Nasr
                    Would you better explain how this "cook" became a leader?

                    And then the dialogue and stalled. laughing
                  2. paul3390
                    paul3390 1 February 2021 18: 41
                    +1
                    And how did a completely gray Putin become president, whom no one even knew - you are not interested?
                    1. Tank hard
                      Tank hard 1 February 2021 19: 33
                      -1
                      Quote: paul3390
                      And how did a completely gray Putin become president, whom no one even knew - you are not interested?

                      Tell us in detail, you can even write an article about it in the "opinion" section. Personally, I am very curious. I'm not mocking here. And then there are different versions, I will gladly listen to yours.
                      1. paul3390
                        paul3390 1 February 2021 20: 05
                        +2
                        How do I know? I didn't drink vodka with Yeltsin .. One thing I know - when Putin was sitting under Sobchak on export - the topic of the port and customs in St. Petersburg was very specifically under the lads. And without her knowledge, it was impossible to do anything there. Basically. Otherwise, they will find it on a clearing. The people died on this topic - passion .. So you can draw the first conclusions yourself ..
                      2. Tank hard
                        Tank hard 1 February 2021 20: 14
                        -1
                        Quote: paul3390
                        How do I know?

                        Why then post something you don't know about? request
                        Quote: paul3390
                        I know one thing - when Putin was sitting under Sobchak on export - the topic of the port and customs in St. Petersburg was very specifically under the lads. And without her knowledge, it was impossible to do anything there. Basically. Otherwise, they will find it on a clearing. The people died on this topic - passion .. So you can draw the first conclusions yourself ..

                        I can only say one thing. The "office" was never under the "lads". I will not develop the topic, I realized one thing, you do not know. repeat
                      3. paul3390
                        paul3390 1 February 2021 22: 19
                        0
                        You might think you, my dear, post only what is notarized and documented .. Ha!
                        No, you just do not know at all .. Well, that's right at all. You have a very lofty opinion about the office ... For the loot - then everyone went to bed. By the way, even now .. In the competition of shoulder straps and a suitcase with money - in this world shoulder straps always lose.
                      4. Tank hard
                        Tank hard 1 February 2021 22: 42
                        0
                        Quote: paul3390
                        No, you just do not know at all .. Well, that's right at all. You have a very lofty opinion about the office ... For the loot - then everyone went to bed. But even now .. In the competition of shoulder straps and a suitcase with money - in this world shoulder straps always lose

                        Well, you probably know better ... hi
  • nsm1
    nsm1 1 February 2021 12: 08
    -8
    So the wrestlers will be tougher.
    The reasons for the protests have not been eliminated.
    Soon they will shoot at the policemen.
    1. Nastia makarova
      Nastia makarova 1 February 2021 13: 22
      +1
      and what are the reasons?
      1. nsm1
        nsm1 1 February 2021 13: 25
        -3
        Falling living standards, colonial policy towards the regions ...
        Lot...
        You do not live in Russia?
        Baked milk 1l (I buy for a cat) costs 80 rubles, and about five years ago it was 35.
        But salaries have not grown since then.
        Purely as an example.
        1. Nastia makarova
          Nastia makarova 1 February 2021 14: 02
          -4
          this cannot be fixed in a week
          1. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 1 February 2021 15: 31
            +1
            Quote: Nastia Makarova
            this cannot be fixed in a week

            It is clear that you cannot fix it in a week, but what have you been doing for 20 years? Hence all these protests. How else to get through to that?
            1. Nastia makarova
              Nastia makarova 1 February 2021 15: 49
              -1
              still would these protests help
              1. aleksejkabanets
                aleksejkabanets 1 February 2021 16: 18
                -2
                Quote: Nastia Makarova
                still would these protests help

                Well, yes, the question is not easy. Still, I think that peaceful protests with intelligible demands can play a positive role. Local officials do not react to anything else.
        2. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 1 February 2021 15: 29
          0
          Quote: nsm1
          Baked milk 1l (I buy for a cat) costs 80 rubles, and about five years ago it was 35.

          In our village, milk is taken to a "milk cart" for 22 rubles.
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 1 February 2021 19: 36
      -3
      Quote: nsm1
      Soon they will shoot at the policemen.

      Who you are? Can you do it?
  • Pilot
    Pilot 1 February 2021 19: 55
    0
    Quote: Nasr
    Quote: Pilot
    The protests are clearly being radicalized and the authorities are happy. Surrrr. Yesterday, Fontanka, reported on the use of gas and stun guns by the security forces in St. Petersburg, which had not happened before.

    The fighters against the regime still do not understand that the circumstances have changed, they will be imprisoned and pressed harder ...

    Well, it is imperative to plant, only prison universities are not enough for young people, for general development ,,)) Sit down as puppies and come out ..? Dead-end topic.
  • Paranoid50
    Paranoid50 1 February 2021 11: 58
    +1
    Quote: Pilot
    Protests are clearly radicalizing

    laughing Marginalized - yes. Although, such a contingent is "at the forefront" of any protest movement. Most of those who were recently arrested for attacks on police officers in Moscow time and ours have two or three trips. fellow Oil painting: urla in the foreground and shkolota on dancers. laughing
  • loki565
    loki565 1 February 2021 12: 01
    +4
    In Europe, they actively change water cannons, in winter, in the midst of a pandemic, and everything is democratic)))
    1. Paranoid50
      Paranoid50 1 February 2021 12: 13
      +1
      Quote: loki565
      In Europe, they actively change water cannons, in winter, in the midst of a pandemic

      Speaking of winter: since this is the case, it is more rational to charge the water cannon with an “frost-free” solution based on the IPS.
      And since the same IPA is a universal antiseptic, a double effect is obtained at the output: both dispersed and disinfected. fellow
      1. loki565
        loki565 1 February 2021 12: 15
        -6
        We seem to have banned the use of water cannons in the winter.
        1. NDR-791
          NDR-791 1 February 2021 12: 41
          0
          We seem to have banned the use of water cannons in the winter.
          Who banned it when? As it was before +5, it remains. So be glad the winter is colder than in the Netherlands.
        2. Tank hard
          Tank hard 1 February 2021 19: 38
          +2
          Quote: loki565
          We seem to have banned the use of water cannons in the winter.

          A devilishly effective remedy, at a certain pressure, it can pierce a bio-target. wink
      2. Crowe
        Crowe 1 February 2021 12: 16
        +9
        Quote: Paranoid50
        it is more rational to charge water cannons with an anti-freeze

        Why, water them like Karbysheva. Until they freeze to death. Look, they are unhappy with life.
      3. Svarog
        Svarog 1 February 2021 13: 40
        +1
        Quote: Paranoid50
        Speaking of winter: since this is the case, it is more rational to charge the water cannon with an “frost-free” solution based on the IPS.

        Napalm .. you need napalm .. at the same time the riot police will warm up .. and the picture will be beautiful .. this is how we deal with the enemies .. who put forward demands to us .. see what they have in mind .. with demands for boyars .. the hollops began to raise their heads too much. . napalm them ..
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        1. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 1 February 2021 21: 03
          -2
          Quote: Andrey 40
          Have already passed

          Well, come on in, don't linger. laughing
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 12: 15
      -1
      Quote: loki565
      In Europe, they actively change water cannons, in winter, in the midst of a pandemic, and that's it.

      In Europe, fighters burn cars and beat windows. According to Senka and a hat.
      1. loki565
        loki565 1 February 2021 12: 22
        -3
        In Europe, fighters burn cars and beat windows. According to Senka and a hat.

        Well, one car and we burned, so you can already think about it.
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 12: 27
          -1
          The car caught fire from the inside, this is clearly visible at the beginning of the fire. wink
          1. loki565
            loki565 1 February 2021 12: 38
            -1
            The car caught fire from the inside, this is clearly visible at the beginning of the fire.

            Well, you are a straight specialist - a criminologist, you solve crimes from the photo)))
            But seriously, there is a version
            The Interior Ministry believes that the car was deliberately set on fire by two masked men. The initial examination established that the fire was near the rear wheel of the car.

            https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/4671403
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 1 February 2021 12: 34
      0
      Quote: loki565
      In Europe, they actively change water cannons, in winter, in the midst of a pandemic, and everything is democratic

      They have democracy and internal terrorism, while in Russia "violation of human rights."
  • Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 1 February 2021 12: 09
    +4
    Yesterday, Fontanka reported about the use of gas and stun guns by the security forces in St. Petersburg, which had not happened before.

    Ha ... you compare how policemen behave with radicals in the USA and you see that our policemen are just angels.
    When trying to kick a police officer in the USA, a bullet flies in response and often calms the troublemaker forever ... if a woman runs into a police officer, it happens that she gets the full program if a knife or something like that is in her hand.
    In France, yellow vests are beaten with truncheons, water cannons, shockers, bird cherry, and just feet without any announcement and shouts of human rights ... they beat and that's it ... hehe European culture ... as they say from Lisbon to Vladivostok.
    1. loki565
      loki565 1 February 2021 12: 17
      +4
      if a woman runs into a police officer, it happens that she gets the full program if a knife or something like that is in her hand.

      In the capitol, a woman was shot, although she had nothing in her hands
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 1 February 2021 12: 22
        +3
        In the capitol, a woman was shot, although she had nothing in her hands

        I saw ... it was pounding at the door ... I already stuck my head ... the guard's nerves could not stand it fired at her ... now she is a corpse, and the guard is a hero by the standards of the Democrats ... a fighter for democracy.
        Although I think the death of a woman can have a bad effect on his psyche.In this situation, neither the victim nor the one who killed the woman won ...
        1. loki565
          loki565 1 February 2021 12: 28
          +3
          Why couldn't his nerves resist? unarmed woman scared? so as a last resort it was possible to shoot at the limbs, and not to kill.
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 1 February 2021 12: 31
            +2
            so as a last resort it was possible to shoot at the limbs, and not to kill.
            I say ... if my nerves were stronger, I would shoot at the hands or feet ... and then to defeat ... clearly the person was frightened of the crowd ... although I would be careful not to hand over a weapon to such a nervous one.
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 12: 32
            -9
            The Capitol was taken over by armed men. There weren't even transparencies here.
            1. loki565
              loki565 1 February 2021 12: 35
              +9
              Have you seen the video? When this woman was killed, everyone stood there with telephones, no one had a weapon.
            2. Tank hard
              Tank hard 1 February 2021 19: 44
              0
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              The Capitol was taken over by armed men. There weren't even transparencies here

              Igor, do not tell, everyone already knows who captured the Capitol and why. wink
              1. Ingvar 72
                Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 19: 47
                +1
                And where are the goals when it comes to methods?
                1. Tank hard
                  Tank hard 1 February 2021 19: 50
                  +2
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  And where are the goals when it comes to methods?

                  With "volume". wink
                  1. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 19: 58
                    0
                    You're digging deep again, I'm not talking about that. By the way, this video is also not the ultimate truth.
                    Those who entered the Capitol had weapons, there are a lot of selfies of people with machine guns on the internet.
                    1. Tank hard
                      Tank hard 1 February 2021 20: 05
                      0
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      You're digging deep again, I'm not talking about that.

                      When I am interested in something, I can use hard physical labor. Everything is one. An attempt to discredit those who are not pleasing in any way. The saying “the end justifies the means” is probably familiar to you.
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      By the way, this video is also not the ultimate truth.

                      Everyone is free to believe only in what he believes in. request
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Those who entered the Capitol had weapons, there are a lot of selfies of people with machine guns on the internet

                      This is not surprising, the country is like that. Well, the topic was, again. laughing
                    2. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 20: 09
                      -1
                      Quote: Tank Hard
                      Everyone is free to believe only in what he believes in.

                      Tank, the editor-in-chief of this channel is a certain Ruslan Ostashko, who is called the imperial blogger on the Internet. He received government contracts to cover some events. Can you call him impartial? I think no.
                    3. Tank hard
                      Tank hard 1 February 2021 20: 17
                      +1
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      He received government contracts to cover some events.

                      Those who receive "government contracts" do not ask for donation laughing ... But you are free to believe whatever you want. Something like this. request
                    4. Ingvar 72
                      Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 20: 22
                      0
                      There is not much money. laughing Moreover, he has now replaced Sheinin during "time will show." Federal channel, and this at a time when even Zyuganov stopped showing.
                    5. Tank hard
                      Tank hard 1 February 2021 20: 29
                      +1
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Moreover, he has now replaced Sheinin during "time will show"

                      Yeah, now I looked, cool laughing (I don't watch that). But at that time the video was good. wink The world is changing. water flows .. repeat
  • AUL
    AUL 1 February 2021 13: 09
    -5
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Ha ... you compare how policemen behave with radicals in the USA and you see that our policemen are just angels.

    Here I don't give a damn about how it is in the states or France. I haven’t been there and I don’t plan. But the fact that OUR policemen calmly violate both the Constitution and the Law on the Police - worries me much more!
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 1 February 2021 13: 24
      0
      But the fact that OUR policemen calmly violate both the Constitution and the Police Law

      And this happens ... but not on a massive scale ... there is no need to invent. On the other hand, some citizens deliberately provoke the use of force by the police ... I myself have seen this and cannot approve of this in any way.
      1. nsm1
        nsm1 1 February 2021 15: 51
        -4
        So peaceful bleating does not help, does not reach the ruling clique.
        The anger of the protesters is inevitable.
        And as they say, criticize - offer!
        Any suggestions for changing the situation, policy?
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 1 February 2021 19: 48
          -2
          Quote: nsm1
          Any suggestions for changing the situation, policy?

          Already changing:
          1. nsm1
            nsm1 1 February 2021 20: 01
            -3
            Mironov? !! belay
            This is not even funny ...
            1. Tank hard
              Tank hard 1 February 2021 20: 08
              -1
              Quote: nsm1
              Mironov? !!
              It is not even funny.

              What does Mironov have to do with it? You either did not watch the video carefully, or you do not understand what is happening (then our discussion is meaningless). request
              1. nsm1
                nsm1 1 February 2021 20: 10
                -1
                Didn't look, you are right.
                Because Mironov saw on the screen saver.
                Or did you miss the mark?
                1. Tank hard
                  Tank hard 1 February 2021 20: 19
                  -1
                  Quote: nsm1
                  Didn't look, you're right

                  The key. wink
                  1. nsm1
                    nsm1 1 February 2021 20: 21
                    -2
                    So is it Mironov or not?
                  2. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 1 February 2021 20: 24
                    -2
                    Quote: nsm1
                    So is it Mironov or not?

                    Are you from an alternate world? laughing
                  3. nsm1
                    nsm1 1 February 2021 20: 25
                    -1
                    Just answer you are shy.
                    Which in itself says a lot.
                  4. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 1 February 2021 20: 33
                    0
                    Quote: nsm1
                    Just answer you are shy.
                    Which in itself says a lot

                    Well, is there his face? But do you need to chew? Is it from the alternative? laughing
                  5. AUL
                    AUL 1 February 2021 21: 09
                    0
                    It looks like the authorities are just trying to create a prop for the edru, which is already crap from head to toe! Not the signboard needs to be changed, but the "girls"!
                  6. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 1 February 2021 21: 20
                    +12
                    Quote: AUL
                    It looks like the authorities are just trying to create a prop for the edru, which is already crap from head to toe! Not the signboard needs to be changed, but the "girls"!

                    I even understood it
                  7. Tank hard
                    Tank hard 1 February 2021 21: 35
                    0
                    Did you notice Bingo! laughing
                2. nsm1
                  nsm1 1 February 2021 21: 13
                  -1
                  For me, Mironov is definitely something that should not be stepped on.
                  And others like him there.
        2. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 20: 32
          +3
          I looked, Tank, but I still don't understand what you mean by that. Gasparyan is not an authority for me at all, a pro-government mouthpiece, akin to Ostashko. SR and Prilepin are also pro-government spoilers, really incapable of making any changes in the country. Well united, so what? They have one goal - to cover the bottom of the EP, no more.
        3. Tank hard
          Tank hard 1 February 2021 20: 36
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          I looked, Tank, but did not understand what you want to say by this... Gasparyan is not an authority for me at all, a pro-government mouthpiece, akin to Ostashko. SR and Prilepin are also pro-government spoilers, really incapable of making any changes in the country. Well united, so what? They have one goal - to cover the ass EP, no more

          What's the difference, they will take the electorate. wink
        4. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 21: 05
          +1
          Hardly. People can no longer be bought by changing the sign. request
        5. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 1 February 2021 21: 26
          +12
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          Hardly. People can no longer be bought by changing the sign. request

          Scar has many options, but they are all bad or very bad.
        6. Tank hard
          Tank hard 1 February 2021 21: 40
          0
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          People can no longer be bought by changing the sign

          However, let me remind you:

          is it better?
      2. nsm1
        nsm1 1 February 2021 21: 14
        0
        Well, well, dreaming ...
        Unless they will be specially drawn.
        In comparison with Mironov, even vanity is pure gold.
      3. Tank hard
        Tank hard 1 February 2021 21: 33
        0
        Quote: nsm1
        even the bath is pure gold.

        Already a broken card. Play a new solitaire game. laughing
  • rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 February 2021 11: 51
    +8
    whether Alexey Navalny will receive a real term or, as usual, will add another house arrest with a new condition to his "piggy bank"
    Well, if this time, too, they do not give a real time (which is unlikely, because they simply have to give), then we can safely say to the authorities - expect blood and big troubles in the future.
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 1 February 2021 12: 07
      0
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Well, if this time they do not give a real time (which is unlikely, because they simply have to give), then we can safely say to the authorities - expect blood and big troubles in the future

      Should get a real time ... Well, it should ... He has already done a lot for this ...
      1. businessv
        businessv 1 February 2021 12: 33
        0
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        Should get a real time ...

        I think so too, colleague! Without this, in jurisprudence there is only one laugh, and if you add a breakup business, then there will be a circus in general, and nothing more!
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    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 1 February 2021 12: 08
      -7
      Quote: rotmistr60
      Well, if this time, too, they do not give a real time (which is unlikely, because they simply have to give), then we can safely say to the authorities - expect blood and big troubles in the future.

      And what are the formal grounds for landing Navalny? He could not call for protests from Matrosskaya Tishina, and if he could, then the leadership of Matrosskaya Tishina should be jailed. But it is necessary to put him in prison for slander, on top officials of the state, their relatives and friends. Of course, if the fact of slander is established.
      1. Kart
        Kart 1 February 2021 12: 18
        +6
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        And what are the formal grounds for landing Navalny?

        He has 2 (two) criminal cases in which he had no right to go anywhere, let alone fly.
        What does this have to do with the formal grounds and not keeping the conscience of hamsters?
        1. businessv
          businessv 1 February 2021 12: 30
          +1
          Quote: Carte
          He has 2 (two) criminal cases in which he had no right to go anywhere, let alone fly.

          I wonder if hamsters put downsides to such well-known facts? smile
        2. Svarog
          Svarog 1 February 2021 13: 41
          +2
          Quote: Carte
          He has 2 (two) criminal cases in which he had no right to go anywhere, let alone fly.

          So our law is not written for everyone .. or do you not know ..?
          1. Kart
            Kart 1 February 2021 14: 22
            -3
            Do not know.
            Nothing is written about this in the law.
            Only on the Internet those who urgently need to break it howl about it. Of course, with the best goals, and because it is "not fair."
        3. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 1 February 2021 14: 16
          +1
          Quote: Carte
          He has 2 (two) criminal cases in which he had no right to go anywhere, let alone fly.

          That is, Putin specially released him, what would then be imprisoned?
          1. Kart
            Kart 1 February 2021 14: 24
            -2
            That is, he broke the law by going to another country.
            Putin personally did not release him or detain him. And the laws are not written by him either.
            Unexpectedly, right?
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 1 February 2021 14: 27
              +3
              Quote: Carte
              Putin personally did not release him or detain him. And the laws are not written by him either.
              Unexpectedly, right?

              And that means that Navalny crawled the border on a dark night.
              "Immediately, as soon as the wife of this citizen turned to me, I immediately instructed the prosecutor's office to check the possibility of leaving him abroad for treatment, meaning that they could not have let him out, because he had restrictions related to the judicial investigation. . He had travel restrictions, "the president said. "But I still asked the Prosecutor General's Office for permission to do this, and he left," the Russian leader added.

              https://tass.ru/politika/9792679
              Unexpectedly, right?
              1. Kart
                Kart 1 February 2021 15: 04
                -4
                And, so this is after the so-called "poisoning"?
                That is, after the start of the operation "Maidan in Russia", organized by the West.
                So after it began, Olyosha turned into an exchange pawn, on which nothing more personally depends.
                Here the prosecutor's office is already on the sidelines, here special services are working at the highest level.
                The organizers of the revolution succeeded in the first step - the stage "poisoning" took place.
                Then we made a decision that it would be more profitable to let him go there, so that he would not accidentally turn into a "victim of the regime".
                But when he was pushed back to us under guard, he had to be arrested.
                Well, do not kill him on the spot right at the airport?
                That is, the second stage of the plan seems to have succeeded.
                But it didn't work out with stage 3. The revolution did not happen. Oppa-zitionEry, as usual, were liquid. And mostly in their own pants.
                Unexpectedly, right?
                1. Mordvin 3
                  Mordvin 3 1 February 2021 15: 23
                  +3
                  Quote: Carte
                  And, so this is after the so-called "poisoning"?

                  What are you wobbling like in a frying pan? Everyone knows that he was released precisely after the poisoning. Poisoning, or some other sore leveling the laws of the Russian Federation?
                  Quote: Carte
                  Well, do not kill him on the spot right at the airport?

                  You, a champion of the rule of law, allow you to kill citizens of the Russian Federation without trial?
                  Quote: Carte
                  That is, the second stage of the plan seems to have succeeded.

                  fool
                  By the way, this is not the first time that our president has helped defendants in criminal cases to escape abroad.
                  According to the president, he helped Sobchak leave so that the smear campaign would not overwhelm the former official.
                  “Yes, I helped him leave the country - both in order to continue his treatment, and so that this dirty campaign would not overwhelm him and take him to the grave ahead of time,” Putin said, noting that Sobchak “was an extraordinary person "and" very bright ".
                  .... In 1997, cases of corruption and abuse of power were brought against him. A month later, Sobchak flew to France.

                  https://ria.ru/20180315/1516452997.html
                  What other surprise can you tell?
                2. Revival
                  Revival 1 February 2021 21: 34
                  +1
                  That is, in your opinion, in this "game" ours deliberately violated the law !!?
                  Have you already started the case?
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          2. businessv
            businessv 1 February 2021 22: 09
            0
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            That is, Putin specially released him, what would then be imprisoned?

            Well, if Putin is the head of the Federal Penitentiary Service, then perhaps you are right! A competent boss, right? He achieved his goal, although for this he had to become the President of Russia! laughing
        4. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 1 February 2021 16: 43
          -1
          Quote: Carte
          He has 2 (two) criminal cases, in which he had no right to go anywhere, let alone fly

          And who sent him to Germany?
      2. businessv
        businessv 1 February 2021 12: 19
        +4
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        And what are the formal grounds for landing Navalny?
        The most obvious! Being under two (which in itself is nonsense!) Suspended sentences, he neglected the conditions of control of the Federal Penitentiary Service, therefore - on the bunk!
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 1 February 2021 12: 22
          +4
          Quote: businessv
          The most obvious! Being under two (which in itself is nonsense!) Suspended sentences, he neglected the conditions of control of the Federal Penitentiary Service, therefore - on the bunk!

          And how do you imagine a person in a coma, who is for the mark of fsin? request
          1. businessv
            businessv 1 February 2021 12: 28
            +2
            Quote: Stroporez
            And how do you imagine a person in a coma, who is for the mark of fsin?

            Yes, read how much he was in a coma, and how many was absent, colleague! smile
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 1 February 2021 12: 36
              +8
              Quote: businessv
              Yes, read how much he was in a coma, and how many was absent, colleague!

              Leshiko is not the hero of my novel, but for the sake of objectivity, it should be noted that things had been sucked out of him from somewhere, and he had the courage to return to the country, knowing that he would be jailed. Not everyone is capable of this.
              1. Lech from Android.
                Lech from Android. 1 February 2021 12: 40
                -2
                Maybe he has a camera now with all the conveniences ... maybe there all his VIP desires and VIP dreams are fulfilled as a VIP client of the highest level.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 1 February 2021 13: 42
                  0
                  Quote: Lech from Android.
                  Maybe he has a camera now with all the conveniences ... maybe there all his VIP desires and VIP dreams are fulfilled as a VIP client of the highest level.

                  And again hallucinations laughing
                2. businessv
                  businessv 1 February 2021 22: 05
                  0
                  Quote: Lech from Android.
                  Maybe he has a camera now with all the conveniences ... maybe there all his VIP desires and VIP dreams are fulfilled as a VIP client of the highest level.

                  I don't know what it dreamed of, but the camera is 3-section, judging by the comments and feedback from fellow members. smile
              2. Kart
                Kart 1 February 2021 12: 42
                +1
                Quote: Stroporez
                but he had the courage to return to the country, knowing that he would be imprisoned.

                This is when, under the protection of the German police, he was almost forcibly put on a plane, and the cordon was not removed until he took off?
                What courage?
                A frankly paid clown for a specific purpose. He no longer has a choice.
              3. businessv
                businessv 1 February 2021 19: 32
                0
                Quote: Stroporez
                but he had the courage to return to the country, knowing that he would be imprisoned. Not everyone is capable of this.
                And in your opinion, he had a way out ?! laughing It seems to you that this hero went to great lengths. for the Motherland ?! smile This muddy personality has received money that needs to be worked out! What courage are you talking about here ?! It only returned to the country because it was ordered to! Anything that is corrupt is temporary!
            2. Revival
              Revival 1 February 2021 21: 37
              +2
              Who broke the law and released him?
          2. Katanikotael
            Katanikotael 1 February 2021 12: 35
            +2
            he didn’t go to Gelendzhik to go to a coma ...
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        3. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 1 February 2021 14: 41
          +1
          Quote: businessv
          Being under two (which in itself is nonsense!) Suspended sentences, he neglected the conditions of control of the Federal Penitentiary Service, therefore - on the bunk!

          Do you have any questions for the president about this?
          1. Revival
            Revival 1 February 2021 21: 38
            +3
            And immediately silence in response)))
          2. businessv
            businessv 1 February 2021 22: 17
            -1
            Quote: Mordvin 3
            Do you have any questions for the president about this?
            This is, apparently, out of habit to contact him on every occasion? I have no questions! There are people of lower rank who should watch over the parole! And they had to jail this breakup hero even before the second suspended sentence!
            1. Mordvin 3
              Mordvin 3 1 February 2021 22: 26
              0
              Quote: businessv
              There are people of lower rank who should watch over the parole! And should have put this hero

              And there are higher ones who order to release the hero abroad.
        4. Revival
          Revival 1 February 2021 21: 36
          +3
          I mean, he neglected?
          Who released him in violation of the law?
          1. businessv
            businessv 1 February 2021 22: 19
            0
            Quote: Revival
            Who released him in violation of the law?

            Yes, he was not released, he was released on conditional, so there is no violation in this regard! But getting out of control should be punished in full.
            1. Revival
              Revival 1 February 2021 22: 30
              +3
              He had no right to cross the border, and no one could permit this bypassing the law.
              Since this has happened, what shall we do?
      3. tagil
        tagil 1 February 2021 16: 33
        0
        And how to praise for work for foreign special services? For some reason, this fact is passed by everyone, although even the CIA agents drove him to the plane, as they accompanied him throughout Germany.
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          1. tagil
            tagil 1 February 2021 16: 40
            -4
            What to do with this fact?
            Take it to the museum and stay there yourself.
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              1. tagil
                tagil 1 February 2021 17: 30
                -5
                If you have never been called cotton wool, Muscovite, Zaputin, Olgin, Lakhtin, handsome bot, think about it, are you a good person? And do you hold the right views. Well, and the last thing, you probably don’t know when you were young (ask your curators), but before Yeltsin said “I’m TIRED, I AM LEAVING,” he showed a very indecent gesture towards the west, consisting of an elbow joint, or rather two, when this was saying "HERE ARE FEMALE DOGS". After that, Putin was appointed to them. And the West still cannot spit out of this Yeltsin "joke". Which of us is a traitor, a military tribunal will figure it out.
        2. Mordvin 3
          Mordvin 3 1 February 2021 22: 27
          0
          Quote: Tagil
          And how to praise for work for foreign special services? For some reason, this fact is passed by everyone, although even the CIA agents drove him to the plane, as they accompanied him throughout Germany.

          So it was necessary to assign FSB officers to him. Or intelligence. Or both at once.
        3. Revival
          Revival 1 February 2021 22: 31
          +2
          How do they like to say, and what is a court decision on working for foreign special services?
          1. tagil
            tagil 2 February 2021 00: 31
            0
            No, but it may appear in the course of the trial, due to newly discovered circumstances. And not the fact that right away, I would have done so.
            1. Revival
              Revival 2 February 2021 01: 47
              +1
              Then we will say
              1. tagil
                tagil 2 February 2021 08: 26
                0
                At the disposal of RT were footage of a meeting between Navalny's associate - FBK * executive director Vladimir Ashurkov - with an employee of the British embassy, ​​whom the FSB considers an MI6 agent.
                Well, you understand. "Sponsor our rise to power and we will repay you with billions", - hints the fighter against corruption.
                So don't wait long.
    3. nsm1
      nsm1 1 February 2021 12: 10
      -6
      It would rather anger Protestants.
      And Navalny is not an oppositionist at all, but a pawn, a set-up in order to lead the protest into a channel safe for the authorities.
      He must be active, he will not be jailed.
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 1 February 2021 13: 03
        -2
        Unfortunately ... I completely agree with you hi Navalny is needed, as Zu, Volfych and other opposites were useful before. It's just that the latter are no longer able to become a valve on a boiling boiler, but from non-systemic ones .... The Kasparovs, the Khodors somehow screwed up, got eliminated. Like Vysotsky: there are no real violent ones, so there are no leaders.
    4. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 1 February 2021 12: 25
      +1
      I think here, regardless of Navalny, you need to wait. Someone else will take his place.
    5. Herman 4223
      Herman 4223 1 February 2021 12: 26
      0
      I think here, regardless of Navalny, you need to wait. Someone else will take his place.
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 1 February 2021 11: 52
    +1
    Oh how! As they say, learn a student .. A thief and a swindler is the face of the opposition .. Although .. and the ruling with their henchmen are the same .. There is no reason to blame the mirror. Buryan, gave birth to weeds.
    1. Gene84
      Gene84 1 February 2021 12: 01
      +2
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      Burian, gave birth to weeds.

      This is not surprising, since they are of the same berry field. yes
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 1 February 2021 12: 04
        +2
        Yes, that's just the point, but for both, people are ready to kill each other, although it's not worth it ..
  • Doccor18
    Doccor18 1 February 2021 11: 54
    +5
    Although the protests were held under the slogans of support for Alexei Navalny, for many it was just an excuse to express their dissatisfaction with the current situation in the country.

    That's the whole point. Few people in the country are interested in Navalny. And a lot of people came to the rally ... The authorities have something to think about.
    1. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 1 February 2021 12: 05
      +4
      Yes, they have nothing to think about. The main thing is not how they will vote, but how they will count, but here in Russia they have always counted correctly. laughing In the last 30 years.
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 1 February 2021 12: 11
        -4
        Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
        ... in Russia they have always believed correctly. laughing In the last 30 years.

        Yes, it's not about the vote ... Rallies have gone around the country. Countrywide. And this is already some kind of bell ...
        1. Daniil Konovalenko
          Daniil Konovalenko 1 February 2021 12: 12
          +5
          Calls passed, and EP will win in September
          1. Doccor18
            Doccor18 1 February 2021 12: 15
            0
            Yes, it is clear that they will not let go of their power. But now the people became kind of nervous and unbalanced ...
            1. Daniil Konovalenko
              Daniil Konovalenko 1 February 2021 12: 19
              +3
              But then the people became kind of nervous and unbalanced ...
              .
              .. But they do not take this into account ...
            2. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 1 February 2021 12: 30
              +18
              Quote: Doccor18
              Yes, it is clear that they will not let go of their power. But now the people became kind of nervous and unbalanced ...

              The life of ordinary people in the country is deteriorating, hence the discontent, which sooner or later will spill over into protests.
              1. three
                three 1 February 2021 13: 50
                +1
                When 40-year-old men and women take to the streets (and not in Moscow-St. they took away all their wealth and allowed them to work as taxi drivers-governesses in Paris ... Dialectics ... What to do? Rush to the Chinese, prostrate yourself and adopt experience before it's too late ... 1917s "take two" is not good for something ("I am old, lazy ...").
            3. Antidote
              Antidote 1 February 2021 12: 54
              +1
              The people began to wake up, good.
    2. Nyrobsky
      Nyrobsky 1 February 2021 12: 14
      -5
      Quote: Doccor18
      That's the whole point. Few people in the country are interested in Navalny. And a lot of people came to the rally ... The authorities have something to think about.

      So damn it went to the vote as lights to sway at rallies. When United Russia party members fly past their seats at elections in the regions, then the authorities really start brainstorming with thoughts. But no, instead of going and expressing their civic position, the protestors "proudly" sit in the huts, gulp beer and hope that "Navalny will bring order to order", so much so that then there will be no stone unturned from the country ... Soon elections to the Duma, so let people stomp and chase United Russia with ballots, there will be more sense.
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 1 February 2021 12: 19
        -2
        And how long do the non-unicorns stay in power? In Yakutsk?
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 1 February 2021 15: 18
          +1
          Quote: Doccor18
          And how long do the non-unicorns stay in power? In Yakutsk?
          The question is in the trend however. If earlier, without straining, edro filled all the "vacancies" of governors and deputies, then recently failures began to appear not only at the level of municipalities, but also at the level of regions, which cannot but strain them, and therefore forces them to turn on their brains and stimulate the awakening of instinct self-preservation, like - and not whether to give the people at least something.
      2. Antidote
        Antidote 1 February 2021 12: 59
        +2
        Still, they would admit someone other than loyal to the elections
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 1 February 2021 15: 21
          +2
          Quote: Antidote
          Still, they would admit someone other than loyal to the elections

          You confused the presidential elections with the Duma elections. Here a significant part of United Russia will disguise itself as self-nominated candidates. Vote for deputies from representatives of other party factions represented in the Duma.
      3. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 1 February 2021 13: 06
        +17
        Quote: Nyrobsky
        Soon elections to the Duma, so let people stomp and chase United Russia with ballots, there will be more sense.

        Yeah and voting on stumps and closets. Are you sure you can win in such voting?
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 1 February 2021 15: 30
          +1
          Quote: Stroporez
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Soon elections to the Duma, so let people stomp and chase United Russia with ballots, there will be more sense.

          Yeah and voting on stumps and closets. Are you sure you can win in such voting?
          Stoporez, it feels like you jump out of sleep with a sword to wave and fall into hibernation again. If you don’t know, I’ll tell you personally - "During the last three elections, in some regions, representatives of the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation won the elections for governors, having moved the representatives of the edra." And this was done according to your version "on stumps and in closets" by voting, the results of which were so obvious that the edro, with all their troubles, pocket electoral committees and administrative resources, could not influence the results in their favor. It is clear that not everywhere, but a precedent has been created. While someone hums "chetama khadit all the same," playing along with the edru, others go and change something.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 1 February 2021 15: 40
            +16
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            In the course of the last three elections, in some regions, representatives of the Liberal Democratic Party and the Communist Party of the Russian Federation won the elections of governors, having moved the representatives of the edra. "

            This is an exception to the rule, and exceptions, as you know, confirm the rule itself.
            In addition, I absolutely do not agitate anyone to boycott the elections, but I am deeply convinced that no one will give up power following the election results, too much has been messed up over the years.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 1 February 2021 15: 45
              +3
              Quote: Stroporez
              This is an exception to the rule ...,

              But you will not deny that these exceptions are an accomplished fact, and this, in fact, is the answer to your question.
              Are you sure you can win in such voting?
              hi
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 1 February 2021 16: 01
                +14
                Quote: Nyrobsky
                But you will not deny that these exceptions are an accomplished fact,

                Of course I will not, but at the same time these facts will remain exceptions, because the authorities will take into account their mistakes wink
                In addition, I do not see any fundamental differences in your views among us, I did not notice you among the Putinists. hi
                1. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky 1 February 2021 22: 10
                  0
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Of course I will not, but at the same time these facts will remain exceptions, because the authorities will take into account their mistakes
                  In addition, I do not see any fundamental differences in your views among us, I did not notice you among the Putinists.

                  Putin will leave someday, but the system will remain, so changing the name of the leader does not guarantee a change in the system. I am for Russia and I am peaceable for the transfer of power without revolutions and upheavals, because there is an understanding that internal turmoil and hack can lead to power such CORRUPTIONS that these will seem like petty pickpockets. Ukraine is an example of this. Examples demonstrating the opposite, in the course of the revolutions of recent decades in a number of countries, somehow cannot be recalled. hi
      4. ALARI
        ALARI 1 February 2021 14: 54
        -1
        Holy simplicity. Do you know what they call people living in their illusory world?
        1. Nyrobsky
          Nyrobsky 1 February 2021 15: 42
          +1
          Quote: ALARI
          Holy simplicity. Do you know what they call people living in their illusory world?

          Nope, I don’t know. Remind. As I understand it, you are against elections as a procedure for the peaceful transfer of power? You need barricades, corpses hung on pillars, a decade of property redistribution and other delights of a civil war with bloodshed in the name of Navalny, or whatever. Are you planning to survive in this cut, or will you sign up for the Heavenly Hundred?
          PS-I know another thing that the first to flee from the sinking ship are the rats who gnawed holes in this ship, while losing the ship, the very life and the future of their offspring, because not everyone will swim to the shore, but whoever is lucky will feed them there with an anti-rat, because there are enough of their own rats.
          1. ALARI
            ALARI 1 February 2021 16: 06
            -2
            The so-called escapism is a departure from reality into a fantasy world - where a person has everything and everything is good for him. Everything works out for him. Life is good. But all this is only in illusion. In fact, there is nothing. He does not want and does not achieve - he draws himself a beautiful illusion and imagines.
            Our electoral system has completely discredited itself and whoever believes in the opposite, God is their judge. I just don't want revolution, dirt and blood. In our country live not only officials, security officials, the president, but also tens of millions of our citizens, and a dialogue is needed between all of them. But the authorities have nothing to offer. She cannot get rid of corrupt courts, police and officials. Dialogue is unlikely. They will "engage" in youth policy and beat those who disagree. The experience of Belarus proves that you can sit on truncheons for a long time, and we have already gone through this and it all ended in 91 when the people did not come out to defend their country.
            1. Nyrobsky
              Nyrobsky 1 February 2021 17: 01
              0
              Quote: ALARI
              Our electoral system has completely discredited itself and whoever believes in the opposite, God is their judge.

              Our system is still discriminated and discredited before the American one.
              1. ALARI
                ALARI 1 February 2021 21: 39
                0
                Perhaps, but it is the Russian electoral system that interests me, and it may be better and more modern, but it does not serve for what it was created. Serves to preserve power for a particular person. The electoral system is a tool, like an AK you can shoot at enemies and you can also at yours.
                1. Nyrobsky
                  Nyrobsky 1 February 2021 21: 55
                  0
                  Quote: ALARI
                  Attention! but it is the Russian electoral system that interests me and it may be better and more modern, but it does not serve for what it was created
                  And we have no other system. Based on this ingrained fact, while there is an opportunity to act within the provided opportunities. In a number of regions, these opportunities for some reason allowed candidates from other parties to push United Russia aside from the governor's office. Obviously, because the people got tired of edra, stopped listening to non-standard agitators like "chohaditto" and nevertheless tore their ass off the stools and voted.
                  Quote: ALARI
                  Serves to preserve power for a specific person.
                  This "one person" was given to you. In this case, we are talking about the upcoming September elections to the Duma !!!, and the GDP does not seem to be going to the Duma deputies.
                  1. ALARI
                    ALARI 2 February 2021 08: 13
                    0
                    And unless this person without the State Duma and the Federation Council could have adopted the laws so popular in society. And why Edro is promoted in his name at every election. I think you are a rather naive person if you do not see cause-and-effect relationships in politics.
                    1. Nyrobsky
                      Nyrobsky 2 February 2021 09: 56
                      0
                      Quote: ALARI
                      And unless this person without the State Duma and the Federation Council could have adopted the laws so popular in society.

                      Unified in the State Duma represents the majority of votes, which outweighs the number of all other parties in the aggregate, and therefore there is no a priori opportunity to slow down the adoption of "popular" laws. There are elections to the State Duma in September, so it is necessary to go to vote for representatives of any parties other than Edra. Sit at home, get the same Ederas majority for the next 4 years.
                      Quote: ALARI
                      And why Edro is promoted in his name at every election.
                      Don't you guess?
                      Quote: ALARI
                      I think you are a rather naive person if you do not see cause-and-effect relationships in politics.

                      I address this passage to you, on the principle of reciprocity.
                      1. ALARI
                        ALARI 2 February 2021 10: 19
                        0
                        I guess we say the party means Lenin, we say Lenin means the party. Have already passed. This is autocracy. Do you consider the elections fair a priori? And the Americans are cheating. And I do not understand our dispute, you also seem not to be thrilled with the status quo. Only you hope to change something by playing by the rules that your opponent can and will change during the game, I no longer believe them. I don't remember who said this phrase, but it fits well - the problem of honest people is that they expect honesty from everyone else.
                      2. Nyrobsky
                        Nyrobsky 2 February 2021 10: 31
                        +1
                        Quote: ALARI
                        I don't remember who said this phrase, but it fits well - the problem of honest people is that they expect honesty from everyone else.

                        A good phrase in every sense.
                        Quote: ALARI
                        Do you consider the elections fair a priori? And the Americans are cheating. And I do not understand our dispute, you, too, do not seem to be delighted with the status quo. Only you hope to change something by playing by the rules that your opponent can and will change during the game, I no longer believe them.

                        Alas, there are no other options, and therefore we have to proceed from the available possibilities, even if they are limited. Let's finish this topic for sim hi
                      3. ALARI
                        ALARI 2 February 2021 10: 45
                        -1
                        Let it be so hi
  • Alex66
    Alex66 1 February 2021 11: 56
    +2
    Most of the protests are not for Navalny, but against Putin. Personally, I am against both, Putin discredited himself with the pension reform and other anti-popular initiatives, and Navalny is a foreign agent.
    1. WIKI
      WIKI 1 February 2021 12: 08
      -1
      Quote: Alex66
      Putin discredited himself with pension reform

      He is already beginning to improve. Putin instructed to study the issue of creating a human rights court in Russia. Only with the help of what structures is not very clear. Moskalkova's department has become a branch of the Russian Post.
    2. nsm1
      nsm1 1 February 2021 12: 11
      -4
      Navalny is generally of little interest.
      The reasons are purely economic.
    3. Daniil Konovalenko
      Daniil Konovalenko 1 February 2021 12: 15
      +2
      Considering that the retirement age was increased both in the neighboring countries and at the request of the IMF, then Putin can also be considered a foreign agent. laughing
    4. Kart
      Kart 1 February 2021 12: 16
      +1
      The fighters against the regime do not understand a simple thing.
      You can't just go "against Putin." If you went out in their get-together, you are against the state along with the navalnists with all that it implies. That is, breaking the law and betrayal for foreign money.
      No matter what good intentions for the one leaving, this is not hedged.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 1 February 2021 12: 50
        +2
        The fighters against the regime do not understand a simple thing.
        All right, only wrestlers ... but here is another paradoxical thing ... sometimes such a wrestler sits on the state salary, has an office apartment, various benefits and then gets into a person's head to go against the state that gives him all this ... I don't understand this nonsense ... and when she loses all this, Yaroslavna starts crying. what
      2. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 1 February 2021 12: 51
        +2
        "You can't just go out" against Putin. "If you went out in their crowd, you are against the state" ///
        ---
        Exactly! King Louis IV in the 17th century pronounced the famous in parliament:
        "The state is me!"
        400 years have passed, but how relevant ... smile
        1. Kart
          Kart 1 February 2021 12: 57
          +2
          The end result of such parties is the destruction of the state. These hangouts are just the first step.
          And it does not matter at all whether they are going against Putin or against Kukutin or for Navalny and Analny.
          Well, is it obvious?
          How many more color revolutions need to be done, so that basically everyone would understand why all this is being done?
          This is not me, of course. You are sure you understand everything perfectly.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 1 February 2021 13: 01
            0
            "The end result of such parties is the destruction of the state" ///
            ----
            The end result is a change of leadership in the state.
            The state is not going anywhere.
            Won in Israel - every week demonstrations against Natanyahu.
            Many are tired of him. But no one worries that if he leaves,
            the state will collapse. The prime minister will change, so what?
            1. Kart
              Kart 1 February 2021 13: 04
              +2
              Don't you seriously understand?
              In different countries, the organizers operate with different goals.
              In this case - to destroy, and thus finally finally solve the "Russian question".
              No matter what they say, no matter what noble goals are set - against the background of this goal, the current government looks much more preferable than any proposed "options".
              1. voyaka uh
                voyaka uh 1 February 2021 13: 12
                -2
                The current government, in fact, has become an absolute monarchy.
                With all the attributes: palaces, estates, royal yachts,
                gilding, etc.
                Someone is quite happy with this (as in the times of Louis or Romanovs),
                some consider this an inevitable element, some do not like it.
                1. Kart
                  Kart 1 February 2021 14: 47
                  +2
                  In this situation, I don't care what it has become there (again, only from the words of the fighters against the regime).
                  Even if she turns into a flying monster, this is in all ways better than what the authors of the color revolution had planned.
                  This is the main failure of this "struggle".
                  If in other former Soviet republics such revolutions were organized under the slogan "We will rid you of Russia, and you will immediately become Europe" - this is understandable for the protest hamsters in these countries.
                  In the former Ukraine, they bought it with this “new Switzerland” and European values.
                  Then in our, Russian case, a clear carrot does not exist. Only destruction.
                  Therefore, the organizers have such results.
                  It turns out that it is very difficult to convince even stupid hamsters that to destroy their country (that is, what they live in) and offer nothing in return other than muttering about some kind of spherical justice is exactly what they need right now.
              2. Revival
                Revival 1 February 2021 21: 47
                +2
                "In this case - to destroy, and thus finally finally solve the" Russian question "."

                So now it is already being decided, the population decline every year, according to the results
                With this how?
        2. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 1 February 2021 13: 00
          +1
          Alexey and what do the Palestinians say about this? smile
          Those who disagree with the state of Israel ... and receive a full package of democratic procedures from the IDF and the Israeli police.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 1 February 2021 13: 05
            0
            These are external threats. As in Russia. Borders must be protected.
            And Israeli Arabs, Bedouins, Druze periodically hold rallies, fight for
            improving your life. This is legitimate and does not lead to the destruction of the state.
            Israel.
            1. Lech from Android.
              Lech from Android. 1 February 2021 13: 18
              +2
              Alexey but your policemen don't beat the Israeli Arabs with truncheons and rubber bullets, noise grenades, tear gas ... sometimes even no worse than the French and Americans.


              Although you have a conflict on ethnic grounds, it is just as irreconcilable as we have on class grounds.
            2. Svarog
              Svarog 1 February 2021 13: 46
              -4
              Quote: voyaka uh
              These are external threats. As in Russia. Borders must be protected.
              And Israeli Arabs, Bedouins, Druze periodically hold rallies, fight for
              improving your life. This is legitimate and does not lead to the destruction of the state.
              Israel.

              It's just that in Israel, apparently, the leadership feels like hired managers .. And here the Tsar .. feel the difference .. and don't shake the throne .. wassat
              1. Kart
                Kart 1 February 2021 14: 48
                -1
                This is your king.
                We have a president in Russia.
                1. Svarog
                  Svarog 1 February 2021 14: 52
                  +1
                  Quote: Carte
                  This is your king.
                  We have a president in Russia.

                  Formally, yes, the president .. But presidents change, but we do not.
                  1. Kart
                    Kart 1 February 2021 15: 20
                    -1
                    And we are changing.
                    Come to the polls.
                    But you don't go to them. because you don’t believe?
                    And I not only go, but I myself participate in them - as a member of the commission.
                    Well, I inform you that the people REALLY vote for Putin, in fact, 70 percent.
                    No manipulation is needed.
                    1. Svarog
                      Svarog 1 February 2021 15: 25
                      +1
                      Quote: Carte
                      Well, I inform you that the people REALLY vote for Putin, in fact, 70 percent.

                      The hedgehog was injected, but continued to eat the cactus wassat Here we have some kind of people .. they imposed taxes, drove them into a mortgage, utilities with three skins tear, salary does not grow for seven years, and everything around is getting more expensive .. pensions were canceled .. and the people all vote for Putin .. What do you think so our people love Putin?
                      1. Kart
                        Kart 1 February 2021 15: 57
                        -3
                        Maybe because all the horrors about which the opposition is shouting are not such horrors?
                        Maybe people are able to appreciate the difference between how it was and how it became?
                        Well this is in reality.
                        Internet fighters against the regime usually have “the wrong people”.
                        Here, just about mice and a cactus is suitable - they cry but eat. That is, they mumble about the same thing, despite the fact that people believe less and less.
                        It's simple. They did not compose themselves, they were simple performers of the manuals. As it says, they sing.
                      2. Svarog
                        Svarog 1 February 2021 15: 58
                        +3
                        The hedgehog was injecting, but he continued to eat the cactus wassat Here we have some kind of people ... they imposed taxes, drove them into a mortgage, housing and communal services with three skins tear, the salary does not grow for seven years, and everything around is getting more expensive .. pensions were canceled .. and the people all vote for Putin .. Why do you think our people love Putin so much?
      3. askort154
        askort154 1 February 2021 13: 55
        -2
        voyaka uh "You can't just go out" against Putin. "If you went out in their get-together, you are against the state" //

        Alexey, it seems that the article is not against the F-35? And not about the riots in Israel. An article about the riots in Russia, organized by protesters in places not allowed for rallies.
        And this is a violation of the law. And laws create state structures, that is, the state. It doesn't matter what or who the protesters came out against, they broke the law. And the state is guarding the law by the fiscal authorities. So your link, equating Putin with Louis IV, to put it mildly tongue
        And second, what is the interest of an Israeli citizen in violations of order in Russia? stop hi
    5. AUL
      AUL 1 February 2021 13: 19
      +2
      Quote: Carte
      You can't just go "against Putin." If you went out in their party - you are against the state

      That is, according to the principle "The State is Me!" (Louis # 14)?
      1. Kart
        Kart 1 February 2021 14: 51
        -4
        That is, according to the principle - you live in the state, observe its laws.
        Don't like laws and are you ready to break them? Be prepared that the state will punish you for this.
        Well, obviously, honestly.
        Moreover, it does not matter at all what kind of state it is, who controls it, and what is the ideology.
        This principle is for all hamsters.
    6. unaha
      unaha 1 February 2021 13: 40
      +3
      “You can't just go out“ against Putin. ”If you went out in their get-together, you are against the state along with the navalists with all the consequences. That is, violation of the law and betrayal for foreign money” - are you serious? Are there really people out of service who identify the state with the current personalities of its head?
      1. nsm1
        nsm1 1 February 2021 13: 59
        +1
        We have a lot of abnormal ones.
        And not such strange ideas are being promoted.
      2. Kart
        Kart 1 February 2021 14: 54
        -6
        There are really people who violate the laws of the state, along with those who were paid for it.
        And it doesn't matter at all what nonsense they have in their heads as a reason for leaving.
        They didn't come out against a specific problem, did they? As some people now believe - "we do not like Navalny, we just went against Putin."
        No guys. Considering what exactly these "protests" were organized for - you came out against the state in which you live.
        1. nsm1
          nsm1 1 February 2021 16: 29
          0
          Quote: Carte
          There are really people who violate the laws of the state
          Any person's right and duty is to oppose unjust tyrannical laws.
    7. 3danimal
      3danimal 1 February 2021 14: 54
      +3
      betrayal for foreign money.

      So people did not go out for money.
      Can you comment on the mention of Louis? smile
    8. ALARI
      ALARI 1 February 2021 14: 57
      -1
      This regime is called double autocracy. And this is not good.
      Autocracy is a form of government based on unlimited control of power by one person or by a council, like a one-party parliament or a presidential republic.
  • Gene84
    Gene84 1 February 2021 11: 57
    +4
    whether Alexey Navalny will receive a real term or, as usual, will add another house arrest with a new condition to his "piggy bank"

    I doubt that he will be given a real term. We would like to plant, they planted it long ago. You can find many examples of real oppositionists who were undesirable to the Kremlin imprisoned on the Internet. The same "clown" gets away with everything for some reason
    1. three
      three 1 February 2021 14: 04
      +1
      Because it is convenient as an "oppositionist". Obvious as a non-claimant for power, as a foreign agent, as a non-politician from the word at all - just an empty critic in the service of the West ... For the West, this is an inexpensive project (this is not Ukraine), because “let it be”, it suits everyone so far. What, our oligarchs (all: the Kremlin and "second stage" and "Westerners") - do not understand about poverty, decline, dead end? Everyone understands very well, there are such staffs of consultants ... There is simply a certain balance, while no one is ready to destroy it, will is needed (money, big, very big), only the USA has it. Therefore, as soon as they decide there, then the most interesting (for them) and terrible for us will begin.
      1. 3danimal
        3danimal 1 February 2021 14: 59
        -1
        as a foreign agent

        What is the foreign agent? That a daughter is studying in another country? So we have half the government of such "agents", and even with accounts and real estate.
        Soloviev told you, and you believed. It is necessary to show Chumak again on central TV, it will be popular smile
  • donavi49
    donavi49 1 February 2021 12: 00
    +8
    Well, some citizens made the deadlines for themselves, with video recording and in front of witnesses.

    As this body - immediately and edged weapons (and this club is it) and an attack on law enforcement officers.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 1 February 2021 12: 16
      +5
      What can I say ... stupid people devoid of reason ... throwing themselves at fully equipped fighters ready for a fight with a bat in their hands ... the boy apparently got stuck in the 90s when the brothers scared the people with bats.
      1. 3danimal
        3danimal 1 February 2021 15: 03
        -3
        Here one hot guy fought off 3 people unarmed.
        I strongly doubt that 1 dozen UFC ready-made fighters are in uniform.
        1. Lech from Android.
          Lech from Android. 1 February 2021 15: 21
          0
          When he was taken at the border, this guy was no longer so hot, the freedom fighter quickly broke down.
          1. 3danimal
            3danimal 1 February 2021 18: 19
            -1
            When a weapon is pointed at any person, he behaves ... carefully (if not sick).
            But to put those 3 riot police against the "hot" guy in the ring - he would have worked for them, I think. Not UFC Stars smile
            And the point was that in hand-to-hand combat, a lot depends on the preparation and motivation of the participants. The victims of the riot police have none of this, as a rule (most of them are peaceful protesters). Otherwise, we have seen how it happens.
          2. Revival
            Revival 1 February 2021 21: 54
            +2
            Did they take one on one or in a crowd as usual?
    2. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 1 February 2021 12: 17
      -5
      Quote: donavi49
      How is this body

      Explicit staging.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 1 February 2021 12: 28
        -3
        Explicit staging.
        smile Maybe this is ...
    3. Prax1
      Prax1 1 February 2021 12: 56
      -9
      Give him an Oscar urgently!
  • askort154
    askort154 1 February 2021 12: 01
    +1
    There is no need to drag them around the prison cells, courts, house arrests.
    This is the best PR for them. It should be like this - raised his hand against a representative of the authorities - at the station, and by express freight train to "felling" - 1 year. The best educational process. Otherwise, they will again shake the country to bloodshed.
    1. Crowe
      Crowe 1 February 2021 12: 12
      +7
      Correctly. Sneezed in the direction of the authorities - execution on the spot.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 1 February 2021 12: 51
        +19
        Quote: Crowe
        Correctly. Sneezed in the direction of the authorities - execution on the spot.

        A life-long etsikh with nails is an extremely serious punishment. Only on-site trunking is cooler.
        1. Kart
          Kart 1 February 2021 13: 00
          0
          Well, why?
          Under capitalism, there is a universal yardstick - the wallet. A blow to him is the most painful measure.
          I went to an unauthorized "protest action", thereby breaking the law - get your wallet.
          Minor? Get it on your parent.
          Well, if you broke something, burned it or stole it, welcome to the bunk.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 1 February 2021 13: 48
            +1
            Quote: Carte
            I went to an unauthorized "protest action", thereby breaking the law - get your wallet.

            Get it out anyway .. yes, it's logical capitalism .. And if the whole country came out .. then no fines and extortions .. The question of quantity ..
            1. Kart
              Kart 1 February 2021 15: 23
              -4
              Well, yes, the question of quantity.
              And this is where the oppositional perdimonocle turns out.
              Well, people do not go en masse, even burst.
              I wonder why?
              Maybe because the ideologues of the protests still lie to them? For example, about the collapsed economy, hunger and extinction.
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 1 February 2021 15: 28
                +6
                Quote: Carte
                Maybe because the ideologues of the protests still lie to them? For example, about the collapsed economy, hunger and extinction.

                No, not for this .. because Navalny does not offer anything better .. the same eggs only on the side ..
                1. Kart
                  Kart 1 February 2021 15: 50
                  -2
                  And this is also true. I would say - the same eggs, only in different hands.
                  But nevertheless, the communists also do not offer anything?
                  The people do not really marry them either.
                  1. Svarog
                    Svarog 1 February 2021 15: 54
                    +5
                    Quote: Carte
                    But nevertheless, the communists also do not offer anything?
                    The people do not really marry them either.

                    The communists were deliberately shattered .. and the prominent leaders were driven out .. Platoshkin proposed a sensible program .. But a criminal case was brought against him ..
                    So all the same the tsar..and not the president..the bourgeoisie are afraid of the socialists.
                    1. Kart
                      Kart 1 February 2021 16: 15
                      -3
                      Come on.
                      Well, let another, no less bright, and maybe even more, leader take this same program of Platoshkin.
                      And in general, such programs are not written alone.
                      So no.
                      So the president. Doesn't work with the king and eaten hedgehogs.
                      1. Svarog
                        Svarog 1 February 2021 16: 16
                        +6
                        Quote: Carte
                        Well, let another, no less bright, and maybe even more, leader take this same program of Platoshkin.

                        wassat The reasoning is not a boy ... but a husband wassat Maybe someone else instead of Putin?
      2. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 1 February 2021 13: 04
        -2
        .
        Sneezed in the direction of the authorities - execution on the spot.

        Take the risk of sneezing at a US police officer ... I'll look at your perforated body after his reflex movement into a holster with a pistol ... if he sneezes in response, you will not find a little colt.
        1. Kart
          Kart 1 February 2021 15: 25
          -4
          Etodrugin and Ponimatnadon are two powerful drugs for the unclouded brains of mother's revolutionaries, and older revolutionaries. Well, one of those to whom age came alone.
        2. Revival
          Revival 1 February 2021 21: 58
          +1
          Tie it up to scare "but in the United States they immediately shoot", drove this fairy tale, already seen enough, "how the shoes are kissed."
          Will you promote as an example !?
    2. nsm1
      nsm1 1 February 2021 12: 12
      -5
      The ruling clique is, first of all, who is leading the country to bloodshed.
      1. askort154
        askort154 1 February 2021 12: 47
        +3
        nsm1 ....The ruling clique is, first of all, who is leading the country to bloodshed.

        And what does Navalny and his "young herd" offer the country, apart from fake criticism and provoking the authorities? Where are their improvement programs?
        Why doesn't it organize an opposition party with its own program?
        Because he has a different task, not invented by him. His task is to organize chaos, for this he is provided with the means and "fake information" designed for the foolish in life, surfing the Internet with an excess of adrenaline in their ass. Criticism without suggestions
        it is ugly politicking, not designed to solve problems positively. Only the blind do not see the final results for the country, from such "revolutionaries". An excellent guide to understanding this is Ukraine.
        1. nsm1
          nsm1 1 February 2021 12: 52
          -4
          Because this is not Navalny's task!
          He plays on the same field with the authorities!
          Disorganization, compromise, everything to delay the inevitable explosion ...
          The reason is not at all in the vanity - who did he surrender to, sick?
          The reasons are economic, social, regional ...
          In general, no side to this clown.
          1. askort154
            askort154 1 February 2021 12: 57
            -1
            nsm1 ...Disorganization, compromise, everything to delay the inevitable explosion ...

            What is an "inevitable explosion"? How do you imagine it?
            Share, please. hi
            1. nsm1
              nsm1 1 February 2021 13: 00
              -3
              Around 1991
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            1. nsm1
              nsm1 1 February 2021 13: 03
              -3
              No, but everything goes to that.
              The impoverishment continues, and discontent grows accordingly.
              1. askort154
                askort154 1 February 2021 14: 02
                -2