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Simulation battles between T-80U and K1 tanks were held in South Korea

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South Korea hosted tank maneuvers involving both Korean and Russian armored vehicles. Several T-80U tanks were involved in the maneuvers, which ended up in Korea in the mid-1990s, having been transferred against the Soviet debt. According to economists' estimates, Moscow's total debt to Seoul at the beginning of the 90s was about $ 1,5 billion. To date, the army of the Republic of Korea has about 80 T-80U tanks, most of them in storage.


Tank exercises at the training ground were conducted by the 3rd Armored Brigade of the South Korean armed forces.

According to the scenario of the exercises, the T-80U tanks were to engage in a training battle with the South Korean Type 88 tanks (they are also K1, which are considered the Asian counterparts of the American Abrams of previous modifications).

Tank maneuvers were carried out for 4 days. South Korean tankers practiced various introductions, including organizing a tank attack with a breakthrough of the defensive lines of a simulated enemy. It is noteworthy that the role of a conditional enemy was performed by the crews of the T-80U tanks.

According to South Korean military TV, simulated battles of South Korean and Russian-made tanks were carried out using special laser devices and sensors attached to armor, as well as to the barrels of tank guns.




Installation and adjustment of sensors:



The process of fighting was monitored on monitors in the command center, where information about the movements of tanks, as well as the defeat of certain combat vehicles, was collected.

The sensors were also placed on machine guns:



South Korean tankers noted that they practiced not only the conduct of the battle, but also the camouflage of the MBT, moving along the snow-covered and ice-covered roads. In the latter case, anti-slip rubber pads were put on the tracks.



One of the practiced combat training operations is combat in urban conditions. At the same time, the tanks supported the assault detachments, creating an advantage in manpower and equipment in certain zones of urban development (its polygon imitation).

How many tanks were conditionally hit is not reported.

In connection with the conduct of this kind of maneuvers, it can be assumed that this is another development of hypothetical military operations of the Republic of Korea with its northern neighbor, the DPRK. It is likely that after a certain relaxation in relations between Seoul and Pyongyang, a period of crisis will again come - after the Biden administration came to power.

Video of maneuvers in the army of the Republic of Korea:

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  1. Ka-52
    Ka-52 1 February 2021 07: 52
    +26
    As a result of training battles with a mock enemy armed with T-80U tanks, the South Korean troops fled. The UN was again forced to enter a contingent on the line of contact along the 38th parallel. laughing
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 1 February 2021 07: 58
      +9
      After the Ka 52 comment, you can't write anything! It turns out either friend or foe. drinks
      1. Ka-52
        Ka-52 1 February 2021 08: 08
        +5
        for neutrality, comrade laughing drinks
        1. Vladimir_2U
          Vladimir_2U 1 February 2021 08: 16
          +5
          And this is still BMP-3 in the exercises were not marked!
  2. Aleks tv
    Aleks tv 1 February 2021 07: 53
    +10
    Good teachings and solid polygon "urban development".

    I remembered our first imitation kits - you put a platoon in a row, make one shot along and ... All three cars signal that they have been hit.
    laughing

    I still can't get used to the fact that the T-80 in the "U" version was sold ...
    And to Cyprus and South Korea ...
    request
    1. Victor_B
      Victor_B 1 February 2021 07: 59
      +8
      It's a pity!
      Wish we never heard the head of the transport department found out who won these battles.
      But based on the fact that
      It is noteworthy that the role of a conditional enemy was performed by the crews of the T-80U tanks.
      in the exercises, the attacking side always wins, the result is obvious ...
    2. Doliva63
      Doliva63 1 February 2021 17: 20
      +1
      Quote: Aleks tv
      Good teachings and solid polygon "urban development".

      I remembered our first imitation kits - you put a platoon in a row, make one shot along and ... All three cars signal that they have been hit.
      laughing

      I still can't get used to the fact that the T-80 in the "U" version was sold ...
      And to Cyprus and South Korea ...
      request

      In the early 80s, I remember, such exercises were held in the Arbat military district, no one complained. LISS -... some there, I don't remember. But then I really liked the idea. soldier
    3. krillon
      krillon 1 February 2021 19: 35
      +2
      They gave it away as a debt ... It would be interesting to hear that they gave it to Russia as a write-off of billions.
    4. marat2016
      marat2016 2 February 2021 00: 19
      +2
      We planned about 80 pieces, in fact: 1996 we received 33 pieces of T-80U, 2005 2 pieces of T-80UK.
  3. Uncle lee
    Uncle lee 1 February 2021 07: 53
    +3
    How many tanks were conditionally hit is not reported.
    Friendship won !
  4. Mykhalych
    Mykhalych 1 February 2021 07: 56
    -2
    Started with debts from Moscow to Seoul ... laughing Forgot to notify on VO: A JUDGE WHO?
    1. Old Skeptic
      Old Skeptic 1 February 2021 16: 01
      +10
      If they did not report that K-1 had killed everyone, then the outcome of the battle is clear.
      1. Doliva63
        Doliva63 1 February 2021 17: 22
        +1
        Quote: Old Skeptic
        If they did not report that K-1 had killed everyone, then the outcome of the battle is clear.

        And, by the way, very reasonable! drinks
  5. Ksanatos
    Ksanatos 1 February 2021 08: 13
    +5
    Do we have such systems for training tank crews?
    1. Yuriy77
      Yuriy77 1 February 2021 08: 26
      -4
      I'm afraid not
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 1 February 2021 09: 01
        +19
        ... Do we have such systems for training tank crews?

        ... I'm afraid not

        Hello.

        Yes, there are.
        Moreover, the first analogs (wrote above) appeared back in ... the 90s.
        Then there were new samples.
        Arkomovsk products are now being tested.
        Not so long ago they were tested by 90 TDs at the Chebarkul test site.
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 1 February 2021 17: 25
          +3
          Quote: Aleks tv
          ... Do we have such systems for training tank crews?

          ... I'm afraid not

          Hello.

          Yes, there are.
          Moreover, the first analogs (wrote above) appeared back in ... the 90s.
          Then there were new samples.
          Arkomovsk products are now being tested.
          Not so long ago they were tested by 90 TDs at the Chebarkul test site.

          The first "analogues" appeared in the late 70s / early 80s. They can't eat up the Soviet legacy laughing
          1. Aleks tv
            Aleks tv 1 February 2021 19: 32
            +2
            ... The first "analogues" appeared in the late 70s / early 80s. They can't eat up the Soviet legacy

            Greetings to Airborne Reconnaissance.
            hi
            I didn't know about the end of the 70s.
            Thank you.

            And the heritage is notable. KIND legacy.
            drinks
            1. Doliva63
              Doliva63 2 February 2021 17: 24
              +1
              Quote: Aleks tv
              ... The first "analogues" appeared in the late 70s / early 80s. They can't eat up the Soviet legacy

              Greetings to Airborne Reconnaissance.
              hi
              I didn't know about the end of the 70s.
              Thank you.

              And the heritage is notable. KIND legacy.
              drinks

              Have a nice one you too drinks
        2. svp67
          svp67 1 February 2021 20: 13
          +2
          Quote: Aleks tv
          Moreover, the first analogs (wrote above) appeared back in ... the 90s.

          At my school, this was tested in 1986 ... At the "request" of the "senior comrades" we expressed a "personal opinion" about the need for revision, although it was honest for that, any infantryman could "knock out" a tank from the AK, under certain conditions. ..something like this
          1. Aleks tv
            Aleks tv 1 February 2021 20: 26
            +3
            ... an infantryman could "knock out" a tank from the AK, under certain conditions ... something like this

            There is such a thing, Sergei.
            hi
            As I wrote above, three tanks were "knocked out" by one shot.))
            I liked how the Koreans did - when the "shot" is fired, the mortar spits out with smoke, closing the Optics as on a state.
            Not bad.
            So that the service does not seem like honey.
          2. zuleb
            zuleb 2 February 2021 11: 12
            0
            Defective power of ak-74 0,12 a pm 0,005
    2. seregatara1969
      seregatara1969 1 February 2021 08: 50
      +1
      It is very expensive, although useful.
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 1 February 2021 09: 23
        +13
        ... It is very expensive, although useful.

        Good day.

        Yes, LTK Ark with PU Arbiter is not cheap. And not without flaws.

        However, the experience of tactical training, approximated by simulation to almost real combat operations, is priceless.

        Tactics is the most difficult art of war.
        And then just training up to BTGr inclusive.
    3. Vadim Ananyin
      Vadim Ananyin 1 February 2021 11: 17
      +4
      In Soviet times, the journal Technics and Armaments contained some proposals and innovations in this regard, but it is not known how it ended, since the union grunted. And now something is not heard.
      1. Aleks tv
        Aleks tv 1 February 2021 11: 53
        +1
        ... In Soviet times, the journal Technics and Armaments contained some proposals and innovations in this regard, but it is not known how it ended, because the union grunted.

        Hello, Vadim.

        Yes, these are the first echoes of the complex then created.
        At that time, the abbreviation LISP was in use.
        Now there are more advanced developments for 4 generations.
        1. Vadim Ananyin
          Vadim Ananyin 1 February 2021 12: 41
          +3
          Hello. Perhaps, but somehow I did not see and did not hear widespread use in the troops, I did not see much in the 76th Airborne Division. Maybe, of course, they just did not come across.
          1. Aleks tv
            Aleks tv 1 February 2021 13: 04
            +2
            .did not hear widespread use in the troops

            Unfortunately yes.
            Greetings to the 76th Airborne Division.))

            Until now, only experimental developments and one-time field tests with the involvement of all kinds of stripes.
            Eheh.
            The last time, if I'm not mistaken, was in 2016 and 2017.
            The head of the Main Directorate of Combat Training made a report to the Minister of Defense with recommendations to equip Training Centers with these systems. Everything is kind of serious and at the highest level.
            You just need a go-ahead from the Ministry of Defense with an updated TTZ and ... Financing.
  6. NDR-791
    NDR-791 1 February 2021 08: 14
    0
    battles of South Korean and Russian-made tanks were carried out using special laser devices and sensors attached to the armor, as well as to the barrels of tank guns.
    What can you say ... Not a cheap laser shooting range turned out!
  7. Ros 56
    Ros 56 1 February 2021 08: 42
    +1
    What is the mate on the air? laughing Well, I don't understand Korean.
    Well, they conducted exercises and ......., then what? Author, ay.
  8. bar
    bar 1 February 2021 08: 46
    +2
    How many tanks were conditionally hit is not reported.

    Ugh damn it. And then what to write about, how did they mold the sensors? request
  9. Emil mamedoff
    Emil mamedoff 1 February 2021 08: 48
    -6
    Tomorrow will be training battles between MiG-9 and F35
  10. Al_lexx
    Al_lexx 1 February 2021 09: 16
    +3
    One thing surprises me. Why is South Korea still not ahead of the rest of the world in terms of development and construction of drones of all classes?
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 1 February 2021 11: 10
      +1
      They really missed this direction somehow.
      Which is strange.
      1. volodimer
        volodimer 1 February 2021 14: 23
        -1
        They have everything for the filling, it remains to make the "letak". Here even Georgians have already noted, and Koreans are silent, although it is for them. The DPRK's air defense is hardly much superior to the NK air defense, so if there is a UAV of the level of the Turkish Bayraktar, they will destroy the North Korean armed forces simply without straining. They are not afraid ... or they know that there will be no war. Everything is very strange.
    2. Uncle Vanya Susanin
      Uncle Vanya Susanin 1 February 2021 17: 25
      0
      Why is South Korea still not ahead of the rest of the world in terms of development and construction of drones of all classes?

      They know something yes
    3. nsm1
      nsm1 1 February 2021 18: 07
      0
      Quote: Al_lexx
      One thing surprises me. Why is South Korea still not ahead of the rest of the world in terms of development and construction of drones of all classes?
      And the Jews at one time closed up the "lavi" ...
      And where is he?
      The Americans didn’t give it, like, since our puppets, buy the F-16
      IMHO it is the same here.
      1. Al_lexx
        Al_lexx 1 February 2021 19: 52
        +1
        Quote: nsm1
        The Americans didn’t give it, like, since our puppets, buy the F-16

        This is the only explanation that comes to mind.
      2. Dmitry V.
        Dmitry V. 2 February 2021 14: 39
        +2
        Quote: nsm1
        And the Jews at one time closed up the "lavi" ...
        And where is he?


        So they sold it to the Chinese, they modified it for the Soviet engine, and now the J-10
      3. onstar9
        onstar9 3 February 2021 04: 02
        0
        Quote: nsm1
        And the Jews at one time closed up the "lavi" ...
        And where is he?
        The Americans didn’t give it, like, since our puppets, buy the F-16
        IMHO it is the same here.

        Not in this case. It's just that the development of aircraft is not for you to develop tanks. costs are an order of magnitude higher. Israel itself would not have pulled it. The Americans helped them with "Lavi" (they bore the lion's share of the expenses), then they stopped. The project had to be closed ...
  11. Yrec
    Yrec 1 February 2021 09: 20
    +5
    Since the result of the exercises is not reported, then at least the T-80U performed on an equal footing with the K1, or even surpassed it. And given the difference in prices for these cars, the Koreans will think about it.
    1. Zaurbek
      Zaurbek 1 February 2021 09: 24
      +1
      Optics are better, communication, connection with the headquarters ... You can fight full-scale at night.
  12. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 1 February 2021 09: 22
    +1
    Interesting sensors ..... urgently need to be introduced into our tank troops.
    1. Doliva63
      Doliva63 1 February 2021 17: 34
      +3
      Quote: Zaurbek
      Interesting sensors ..... urgently need to be introduced into our tank troops.

      They tried it in SA 40 years ago, they even conducted exercises with them. But after Ogarkov left, apparently, no one needed it. Why now? Are you going to fight with someone? There are only "partners" around, why spend money? laughing
      1. Zaurbek
        Zaurbek 1 February 2021 17: 38
        0
        It is also possible to conduct trainings against ATGM calculations
        1. Doliva63
          Doliva63 1 February 2021 17: 45
          +3
          Quote: Zaurbek
          It is also possible to conduct trainings against ATGM calculations

          Can Masha for ... laughing There is no word "can" in the army. There is "must" and "is!" But nobody needs it, you see. Hence we dance in our reflections.
  13. Emil mamedoff
    Emil mamedoff 1 February 2021 09: 29
    +2
    Quote: Al_lexx
    One thing surprises me. Why is South Korea still not ahead of the rest of the world in terms of development and construction of drones of all classes?

    Because the big brother pulls them by the legs, and shows his fist as a sign that if you will work out the ladies in the head. Otherwise, now Japan and South Korea would be ahead of everyone, literally in terms of everything.
    1. Al_lexx
      Al_lexx 2 February 2021 19: 57
      +1
      Quote: Emil Mamedoff
      Otherwise, now Japan and South Korea would be ahead of everyone, literally in terms of everything.

      Japan is unlikely. There are objective reasons for this, namely the cost of labor. And in many conceptual developments, the Japanese are ahead of many.
      In South Korea, things are completely different. The cost of labor there is not much higher than in China and the line production is well established. The sales markets for Korean products are huge. For example, they build the most ships in the world based on total tonnage. In terms of the reliability of cars, they have long caught up and surpassed Japan. And so in many industries.
      The Japanese economic miracle, on the other hand, ended when the Chinese miracle took off. In fact, the Americans simply redirected investments. After the war, they invested heavily in Japan.
      At the expense of Big Brother - I agree. Although it is still unclear what prevents them from building a UAV.
  14. sergo1914
    sergo1914 1 February 2021 09: 40
    0
    It would be better to hack to death in nature. Divided into red / blue and combat BC ... Purity of the experiment.
    1. antivirus
      antivirus 1 February 2021 09: 56
      -1
      then already naval battles for the ownership of Tsushima ........................................... .................................................. ...........
  15. mojohed2012
    mojohed2012 1 February 2021 10: 05
    +1
    One can feel the South Koreans looking back at Uncle Sam (Boss). They oppose their technique to the technique of the USSR / Russia. A common trend among NATO countries and among the vassals of the "friends" of the United States. The enemy is the same everywhere and this is Russia! Or China (North Korea, where the tanks, although old, are similar to ours). There were sanctions, sanctions, and then they will disconnect from all possible networks. Now Navalny will be replaced with a suspended prison sentence for a real term - so the partners will immediately introduce more sanctions. and no one ever guarantees that this will not be a disconnection from SWIFT, or cutting off the connection of the Russian Federation with the Internet, or massive cyber attacks on us.
  16. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 1 February 2021 10: 31
    -1
    navigating snowy and ice-covered roads ... urban combat ...
    Is it just about preparing for a possible war with the DPRK? Or, according to the instructions of the "senior comrade", are they preparing for a possible further dash to the south of Primorye? So it's in vain, tk. before that, it will be necessary to defeat the DPRK Armed Forces, which is practically impossible without the support of the United States. And China and Russia will not silently watch the lawlessness.
  17. Prisoner
    Prisoner 1 February 2021 10: 49
    0
    How was the impact imitated? Did you hit your armor with a sledgehammer?
  18. grandfather_Kostya
    grandfather_Kostya 1 February 2021 12: 23
    +1
    Laser shooters ... plasticine shells are more realistic! At the same time, they would check the capabilities of the ballistic computer for "switching to a new ammunition."
  19. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 1 February 2021 14: 02
    +1
    So who defeated whom, Koreans Koreans, red blues on the headquarters map, common sense?)
  20. senima56
    senima56 1 February 2021 15: 25
    +1
    Well, what is the result? hi Who slapped whom? good The most important thing was not written! fool
  21. smaug78
    smaug78 1 February 2021 16: 21
    -2
    Quote: Ka-52
    the South Korean troops fled. The UN was again forced to enter a contingent on the 38th parallel line of contact.
    From Seoul towards Pyongyang ...
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  23. svp67
    svp67 1 February 2021 17: 35
    +4
    In the latter case, anti-slip rubber pads were put on the tracks.
    Yeah, why not "studded" ... These are special pads for movement ON ASPHALT, so that its coating does not spoil ...
    1. merkava-2bet
      merkava-2bet 1 February 2021 19: 47
      +2
      Probably they meant spurs for caterpillars, and zhurnalyugs are always confused.
  24. Freedim
    Freedim 1 February 2021 20: 45
    +4
    Soviet tanks won ... The South Korean government was forced to impose additional sanctions against Russia.
  25. Ivan Hangoverov
    Ivan Hangoverov 2 February 2021 17: 19
    +1
    Cool guys. It is a pity that we do not conduct exercises like that.