"Tanks disappear after a fight with HJ-10": the Chinese press showed footage of the use of self-propelled anti-tank systems

Chinese news resources showed footage of the combat use of the Chinese self-propelled anti-tank complex AFT-10. By firing the HJ-10 rocket, he successfully coped with the target, which was the Type 59 (the Soviet T-54 served as the basis for its creation).

HJ-10 entered the fray with the main combat a tank [Chinese classification] Type 59. Tank disappeared

- writes the Chinese press.

The SPTRK AFT-10 was first demonstrated to the public in 2014. It has a mass of 20 tons and is mounted on the ZBD-04A BMP chassis. The complex is armed with 8 guided missiles, which are located in transport and launch containers that are in combat readiness. ATGM HJ-10 ("Red Arrow-10") acts as a means of destruction of enemy tanks. Experts believe that it is an analogue of the Israeli product Spike-NLOS. The rocket weighs 150 kg, of which 43 kg falls on the warhead. The HJ-10 works at a distance of 2 to 10 km.

New missile system AFT-10 is designed to fire at remote armored targets

- indicated in the China Military edition.

In Russian troops, the Shturm-S SPTRK and the more modern Chrysanthemum-S complex play a similar role. The 9M123 ATGM and its modifications with a target destruction range from 0,4 to 6 km serve as the standard armament of the latter.

Comments

[Lord of the Sith]

"Tanks disappear after a fight with HJ-10"

Are the tanks sold to the banana republics and they disappear?
Fight of two yakozun))))

[Dodikson]

By the way, it's not a fact that KAZ can destroy an ATGM with a warhead weighing 43kg.
and I wonder what kind of warhead is there. for the cumulative weight is too large, for the HE is too small, or is it a cumulative high-explosive?

[General failure]

It looks very much like the Chinese with the power of the charge are trying to compensate for its inefficiency.

That is, they did not master the penetration of modern armor with a small charge, so they began to drive weight.
Well, the fact that such a big babakha will break the T55 is not enough advertising.

[Dodikson]

on Hermes, about the same topic, there the warhead is not cumulative, but an analogue in terms of the impact of a 100 kg aerial bomb.

[General failure]

Hermes looks a lot cooler.
The rocket has a speed of 1200ms versus 150ms.
And bch 28kg versus 43kg.

That is, the Chinese also get a failure in high-blasting explosives, since they overweight warheads like that.

[Flooding]

Quote: General Failure

The rocket has a speed of 1200ms versus 150ms.

In general, you are right.
But the comparison of maximum and cruising speeds is not correct.
And the maximum for Hermes is around 1000 m / s. I saw such a figure.

[Dodikson]

1000ms is at the Shell. and Hermes is a rework of the SAM from the Shell SM. and it was positioned precisely as a hypersonic one, which is why, due to inertia, it can be a target for 100 km.

[nsm1]

Quote: General Failure

failure on high explosives

It is very unlikely, they definitely have HMX.
PS: rather, they have some kind of cumulative high-explosive warhead against fortification.

[alexmach]

Hermes looks a lot cooler.

It depends on where you look. Undeniably steeper in meters per second, but in guidance systems? And if we take into account the presence-absence of the troops, then Hermes does not look at all.

[Professor]

Quote: General Failure

It looks very much like the Chinese with the power of the charge are trying to compensate for its inefficiency.

[kapitan92]

Quote: Dodikson

By the way, it's not a fact that KAZ can destroy an ATGM with a warhead weighing 43kg.
and I wonder what kind of warhead is there. for the cumulative weight is too large, for the HE is too small, or is it a cumulative high-explosive?

Guided missile HJ-10


Developer: CASIC (China)


The HJ-10 is an analogue of the Israeli AGM-114 Hellfire complex with optoelectronic guidance, and operates on the "fire-and-forget" principle and is designed to strike at enemy vehicles and fortifications at ranges of up to several tens of kilometers. The missile is considered anti-helicopter and anti-tank.


Base Options:

helicopter CAIC WZ-10.
land AFT-20, AFT-10.

UAV CH-3.


Modifications:

AKD-10 - modification of the HJ-10 air-to-surface class against unarmored targets + a cheaper alternative to the HJ-10 for urban combat
AR-1 - modification of the HJ-10 for UAVs + replaceable TV, thermal or semi-active laser seeker + CASTC developer.

AR-2 is a modification of the HJ-10 with a semi-active laser seeker for drones with a flight range of 2-8 km.

CM-502KG - aircraft modification of the HJ-10 air-to-surface class increased to 25 km. range + for manned aircraft and UAVs + analogue of Spike NLOS.

LJ-7 - anti-tank modification AR-2 + armor penetration 1400 mm + increased warhead power + reduced fuel volume + reduced maximum flight range.

BA-7 - air-to-surface missile modification of LJ-7 + replaceable TV, thermal or laser seeker, semi-active + developed by CASTC.

BA-9 - modification with semi-active seeker + weight 26.5 kg + range 6 km

BA-21 - modernization of AKD-10 + additional types of GOS


Features:

Length - 1,85 m.
Diameter - 165 mm.

Weight with a launch system - 150 kg.

Warhead weight - 43 kg.

Engine - solid fuel booster + micro-turbojet engine

Cruising speed - 150 m / s

Attack speed - 230 m / s

The maximum range is 10 km.
https://vpk.name/library/f/hj-10.html

[General failure]

Um, the rocket's cruise speed of 150ms isn't impressive at all. That is, 5 seconds will pass from launch to defeat at a distance of 30 km. And if at the limit, then a whole minute.

That is, the gunner-operator will be fisting the control panel all this time, instead of launching the next missile.

... And during this time, the enemy may well target this launcher.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: General Failure

the gunner-operator will be fisting the control panel all this time, instead of launching the next missile.

What a poetic comparison! Just do not confuse the generations of ATGMs, with manual control there are no more missiles left in more or less developed countries.

[donavi49]

Well, here is rather speed advantage. The same Spike or the French ATGM are also slow.

They shoot at invisible targets, capture and strike on the hill. You have to shoot with Hermes at a visible target. As well as Cornet. And other ATGMs of the past generation. No matter how cool warheads and engines are.

[voyaka uh]

Not. The rocket has an active seeker.
As soon as it locks on the target, the operator releases it in
"free flight" and fires the next missile at the next target.
If the goal is one and there is no rush, you can bring it to the goal manually.

[bk0010]

Quote: kapitan92

HJ-10 is an analogue of the Israeli complex AGM-114 Hellfire

What, the Zionist military has already squeezed Hellfire from the amers? They, like Spike, "gash", quite decent, why do they need Hellfire?

[unhappy]

I suppose that a high-explosive shell of a six-inch howitzer (by mass is close to a warhead) will destroy any armored belt.

[Severok]

All this is great, however, against the background of this information and information about the French testing of ATGMs based on an off-road passenger car, the thoughts involuntarily arise that tanks and infantry support vehicles, as well as the tactics of their use on the battlefield, will evolve in several unexpected directions. For example, infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers will acquire an active anti-tank missile defense system based on AI, and the use of tanks directly in the infantry battle formations will be radically revised.

[Private SA]

Did you work at Damansky Grad? I wonder how they will fly
drones when denouncing 50 kilotons to the target?

[Thrifty]

Well, where is the photo of the tank "decomposed into molecules by the Chinese miracle rocket"? According to the old static, with weak armor, a tank can be beaten calmly only at the training ground. In battle, the Chinese miracle-yudo will receive a missile from the ubpl, and he himself will burn out faster than someone will understand what happened. ..

[rotmistr60]

"Tanks disappear after a fight with HJ-10"

How else? The world simply must know whose technique is the best in the world. It would be strange to read that Chinese technology is inferior in some way to American or Russian. Their commentators in their posts do not curse their armed forces, but support them morally. Everything is in the Chinese style of presenting information.

[Bolo]

And out of 10 Russian commentators, 8 throw mud at their Armed Forces ...
The tradition, however ...

[sevryuk]

yeah, smerdyakovism - it is like that, up to Kurbsky can be traced

[Professor]

Experts believe that it is an analogue of the Israeli product Spike-NLOS. The rocket weighs 150 kg, of which 43 kg falls on the warhead. The HJ-10 works at a distance of 2 to 10 km.

Spike hits 30km with significantly less weight. So, that is not an analogue. Not an analogue yet.

[Bolo]

Well done, a Jew, he praised himself, and the Russian OPK lowered, as always ...

[Professor]

Quote: Bolo

Well done, a Jew, he praised himself, and the Russian OPK lowered, as always ...

Where is the "Russian OPK" here? Would you even read the article. It is about the CHINESE OPK.

[Rainfall]

Here is a cartoon to protect the T-54, T-64, T-72, etc. Place CWIS on a tank to destroy ATGMs and drones. Armament can be 12,7-mm machine gun and RG-6 grenade launcher. Weapons are swappable, so the CWIS has two 12,7mm or two RG-6s. Update CWIS for laser weapons in the future. CWIS radar can reach 10 km. RG-6 and 12,7mm use intelligent technologies (algorithms) to shoot down drone and ATGM. The top of the battle tank needs to be widened.

[Vsevolod136]

"Tanks disappear after a fight with HJ-10": Chinese press ....

Yeah, especially if the tank is stuffed with explosives beforehand, I don't want to.

[Vsevolod136]

Quote: professor

... Spike hits 30 km with significantly less weight. So, that is not an analogue. Not an analogue yet.

from the AN-1 "Cobra" helicopter?