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Helping the Working People: Social Protection of the Population in the First Years of Soviet Power

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Helping the Working People: Social Protection of the Population in the First Years of Soviet Power

No matter how much admirers of pre-revolutionary Russia liked to talk about charity and good merchants and landowners - patrons, a full-fledged system of social protection of the population, which covered all the inhabitants of the country, was formed only after the victory of the Bolsheviks. The 1917 revolution created a welfare structure that no other country in the world had in those years. Real help to the working people began to be rendered.


Creation of a social security system


Already on November 14, 1917, the People's Commissariat of State Charity was established, whose duties included taking care of the elderly, minors, protecting mothers and infants, helping war invalids and their families. The notorious Alexandra Kollontai was appointed to lead the commissariat. In December 1917, the Regulation on insurance against unemployment was adopted, then - the Decree of the All-Russian Central Executive Committee and the Council of People's Commissars of the RSFSR "On insurance against illness."

In April 1918, the People's Commissariat for State Charity was renamed the People's Commissariat for Social Security. This is how the new term “social security” appeared, which is still actively used today. The next important step was the signing of the Decree on the social security of workers on October 31, 1918.

At that time, social security was understood as the payment of pensions and benefits to persons who lost their basic earnings due to unemployment or disability, benefits for pregnant women and women in childbirth, nursing mothers engaged in manual labor, funeral benefits or medical care. In the conditions of the Civil War, the destroyed economy and infrastructure, the Soviet government, nevertheless, found the means and opportunities to help those in need.

The fight against homelessness is a great achievement of the Soviet regime


One of the most important areas of social protection of the population in the first years of Soviet power was the fight against child homelessness. Then it was really a very terrible and serious problem: the First World War and the Civil War, epidemics of dangerous diseases, banditry led to the fact that there were a huge number of street children in the country.

The Soviet government, under the leadership of Felix Dzerzhinsky, took on the mission of eradicating homelessness. A large number of orphanages, special schools, educational colonies were created, in which street children were placed. As a result, by the end of the 1920s, the level of homelessness in the Soviet Union had decreased many times compared to 1918-1921.

Many former homeless children, thanks to the Soviet education system, have become real people and found themselves in a variety of professions: they became honest workers, brave warriors, talented scientists and writers. Many books and films have been created on the topic of combating homelessness in Soviet Russia.

Let us recall that before the revolution there was practically no struggle against homelessness, child labor was exploited, children from poor peasant and working families were involved in prostitution, in criminal earnings. Suffice it to turn to the works of Vladimir Gilyarovsky, Alexei Svirsky and other representatives of Russian literature and journalism, who described the life of the lower strata.

Helping workers


Almost immediately after the revolution, the Soviet government began organizing a full-fledged system of social protection for the working class. In cities, villages, townships, hospitals for workers, rest homes and sanatoriums were created. Many of them were created on the basis of estates and mansions of landowners, merchants, officials of tsarist Russia. For example, in Rostov-on-Don, on the basis of dachas of wealthy Rostovites, a workers' recreation center was created, which was then transformed into a sanatorium for patients with gastrointestinal diseases.

Of course, not all problems and issues in the first years after the revolution could be solved by the Soviet leadership. But thanks to the grandiose Soviet experiment, we now have a relatively developed system of social protection of the population. Many foreign countries also use it, having adopted that Soviet experience. So, fearing a repetition of the 1917 scenario - already at home, Western governments were forced to meet the demands of the workers' parties and movements in their countries and establish a social security system. So, the positive effect of the Soviet reforms spread far beyond the borders of the Soviet state.
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 28 January 2021 07: 40
    +13
    Excellent, but how little, the topic is unbroken !! Thanks to the author!

    We are waiting for rr-disclosures of Olgovich! laughing
    1. apro
      apro 28 January 2021 07: 42
      +11
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      We are waiting for rr-disclosures of Olgovich!

      This is not a revelation ... this is a diagnosis.
      1. Crowe
        Crowe 28 January 2021 07: 52
        +17
        Olgych will not trample against the facts, here even the main enemy of the USSR Brzezinski, gritting his teeth, admitted that
        “The Soviet Union has truly become a great industrial power.The centralized socialist system was fully rebuilt."
        But the fact that the article is really catastrophically small in volume is also a fact. You can get more information in the comments than from the article itself. What kind of fashion has gone ... Let it be like at school then - the teacher (author) enters the classroom (on the site "VO"), writes on the blackboard (on one of the headings "VO") the topic of the essay (title of the article) and go, go for it, children!
        1. Far B
          Far B 28 January 2021 08: 19
          +14
          Education, the right to housing, to land, to spa treatment (yeah, in the early years), pension, electoral, working / time restrictions (including the ban on adolescents) are not affected at all. I waved on the tops - and that's it. In between ... what?
        2. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 28 January 2021 08: 27
          +5
          Quote: Crowe
          "The Soviet Union really became a great industrial power. The centralized socialist system was fully rebuilt."

          You state the facts discovered by the Russophobe from birth. Brzezinski's opinions should be taken as an analysis of the ongoing struggle of the West against the socialist order in general. The USSR was perceived as a spring that gave rise to a social order of a more progressive form.
          That is why they danced on the wreckage of the USSR.
          HENRY KISSINGER, US Secretary of State from 1973 to 1977, Nobel Peace Prize Laureate (1973). In 2002, Henry Kissinger topped the list of the 100 leading intellectuals in the world, Trilateral Commissioner, head of B'nai Brit. "The collapse of the Soviet Union is, of course, the most important event of our time, and the Bush administration has shown amazing art in its approach to this problem ... I prefer chaos and civil war in Russia to the tendency to reunite it into a single, strong, centralized state."

          Quote: Crowe
          But the fact that the article is really catastrophically small in volume is also a fact.

          Right. Everything is clear here. Such topics cannot be filled in by simply listing directions.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 28 January 2021 09: 17
            +4
            Quote: ROSS 42
            Right. Everything is clear here. Such topics cannot be filled in by simply listing directions.

            It would be nice to cover the activities of the Tripartite Commission and B'nai Brit.
            Maybe there are intelligent participants on VO who are friends with the pen.
        3. 7,62x54
          7,62x54 28 January 2021 08: 39
          +9
          Now fans of Nicholas the Bloody rejoice that Russia is becoming an agrarian power.
          1. Svarog
            Svarog 28 January 2021 09: 13
            +14
            Quote: 7,62x54
            Now fans of Nicholas the Bloody rejoice that Russia is becoming an agrarian power.

            The agrarian power is a strong saying .. even to it we do not become and will not become, until we have our own seed fund .. and its own manufacturing industry is 100% independent of the West ..
            But the fact of course is that we are degrading .. and sliding back to the days of the kings ..
          2. ccsr
            ccsr 28 January 2021 12: 25
            -6
            Quote: 7,62x54
            Now fans of Nicholas the Bloody rejoice that Russia is becoming an agrarian power.

            I have never been a fan of Tsarist Russia, if only due to the fact that with age I began to look at it as a historical stage of my Fatherland, i.e. without ideological strain.
            I have to disappoint you, but not even the fans of Nicholas II are sincerely happy that we fulfill the conditions of the country's food security thanks to the developed agricultural sector. If you remember something from the history of the USSR, then you should know that even then it was the most important condition for the country's mob plans, for which large quantities of various products were laid for long-term storage.
            Why are the current agrarian successes straining you if they generate more income from sales on international markets than we get from the sale of weapons?
            1. apro
              apro 28 January 2021 13: 39
              0
              Quote: ccsr
              Why are the current agrarian successes straining you if they generate more income from sales on international markets than we get from the sale of weapons?

              And the fact that these successes are strongly reflected in the well-being of the population, prices will soar into heaven.
              1. ccsr
                ccsr 28 January 2021 13: 47
                -4
                Quote: apro
                And the fact that these successes are strongly reflected in the well-being of the population, prices will soar into heaven.

                Yesterday one politician said that saury had jumped in price from 100 rubles to 180 rubles per can. I was not too lazy, I went not to the Pyaterochka store, but next to it, to the Fix-Price store, where saury, mackerel, etc. in ordinary banks were sold at 55 rubles, and sprat - at 27 rubles. for the can. There were also higher prices, but none of them reached 100 rubles or even close. And who should I believe?
                I do not make excuses for the current rulers, but there is too much propaganda on VO from both sides, and therefore I have not taken everything that is written here at face value for a long time.
                1. apro
                  apro 28 January 2021 13: 53
                  -1
                  Quote: ccsr
                  and therefore I have long ceased to take everything that is written here at face value.

                  And therefore, you have no faith either? Boldly ...
                  But you can't get away from the prices. And the growth is obvious. Sugar and oil jumped up not badly. But the rest are slowly moving in the same direction. Here is a success .. I am not growing so.
                  1. ccsr
                    ccsr 28 January 2021 14: 08
                    -4
                    Quote: apro
                    And therefore, you have no faith either? Boldly ...

                    And why you are OBLIGED to believe, if only due to the fact that we can have completely different life experiences. Here, everyone chooses for himself who to believe and who does not, based on their ideas about a particular subject of discussion.
                    Quote: apro
                    But you can't get away from the prices. And the growth is obvious. Sugar and oil jumped up not badly. But the rest are slowly moving in the same direction. Here is a success .. I am not growing so.

                    As one character said - "Life is generally harmful." So do not think that this is happening only now, and it did not happen before, or will not happen in the future. So far I do not see the situation in the nineties, and at least for that I am grateful to the current government.
                    1. apro
                      apro 28 January 2021 14: 27
                      -2
                      Quote: ccsr
                      As one character said - "Life is generally harmful."

                      And they die from her ...
                      Quote: ccsr
                      So far I do not see the situation in the nineties, and at least for that I am grateful to the current government.

                      It is thanks to the current government that the nineties are returning ...
                      Quote: ccsr
                      And why you are OBLIGED to believe, if only due to the fact that we can have completely different life experiences.

                      And the knowledge of mathematics. We are able to add prices and subtract from the salary. And there is still a memory. To remember how it was yesterday.
                      1. ccsr
                        ccsr 28 January 2021 14: 47
                        -2
                        Quote: apro
                        It is thanks to the current government that the nineties are returning ...

                        This is a stretch - you seem to have not lived then.
                        Quote: apro
                        to remember how it was yesterday.

                        Write from the poor from your smartphone?
                      2. apro
                        apro 28 January 2021 14: 51
                        -2
                        Quote: ccsr
                        This is a stretch - you seem to have not lived then.

                        ???? Where did you get it .. I also remember the Moscow Olympics.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Write from the poor from your smartphone?

                        Is this an indicator?
                      3. ccsr
                        ccsr 28 January 2021 14: 53
                        -2
                        Quote: apro
                        where did you get it .. I also remember the Moscow Olympics.

                        Didn't participate?
                        Quote: apro
                        Is this an indicator?

                        For some reason, all the indignant latest models always have.
                      4. apro
                        apro 28 January 2021 15: 02
                        -2
                        Quote: ccsr
                        Didn't participate?

                        On the couch watching the TV.
                        Quote: ccsr
                        For some reason, all the indignant latest models always have.

                        I am not indignant. I state the facts. And they do not make me happy. I have an average sex salary with a smartphone.
          3. Foul skeptic
            Foul skeptic 28 January 2021 16: 51
            -2
            Yesterday one politician said that saury had jumped in price from 100 rubles to 180 rubles per can. I was not too lazy, I went not to the Pyaterochka store, but next to it, to the Fix-Price store, where saury, mackerel, etc. in ordinary banks were sold at 55 rubles, and sprat - at 27 rubles. for the can.

            Prices from a fixed-price list are strong. Your saury costs 55 rubles just because it has been there for a couple of years and no one takes it. And a couple of years ago it was 55 and bought. And also show me the Dobroflot in the fixed-price list, if my memory serves me, it was about him.
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 28 January 2021 18: 19
              -1
              Quote: Nefarious skeptic
              Prices from a fixed-price list are strong. Your saury costs 55 rubles just because it has been there for a couple of years and no one takes it.

              Well, you're lying, because there are a lot of people buying food, because they are cheaper than in chain stores, and nothing lingers there.
              Quote: Nefarious skeptic
              And also show me the Dobroflot in the fixed-price list, if my memory serves me, it was about him.

              And what is important for the buyer what is produced by Dobroflot or someone else? Well, don't be ridiculous, but rather tell us where is this store, where saury is 180 rubles, so that you can understand where the legs of this information grow from. If the store is on Rublevka, then it will go there for 500 rubles.
              1. Foul skeptic
                Foul skeptic 29 January 2021 09: 28
                -1
                And what is important for the buyer what is produced by Dobroflot or someone else?

                It is important for the buyer to maintain the price / quality ratio.
                Well, don't be ridiculous, but rather tell us where is this store, where saury is 180 rubles, so that you can understand where the legs of this information grow from.

                Sayre Dobroflot in Lenta and Zelgros costs so much. Somehow you also wrote interestingly in the last message
                I was not too lazy did NOT go to the Pyaterochka store, and next to him in the store "Fix-Price"

                Why did you decide not to go there? Has it become expensive?
                1. ccsr
                  ccsr 29 January 2021 12: 29
                  -1
                  Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                  It is important for the buyer to maintain the price / quality ratio.

                  I gave you the price of a standard can - 55 rubles. What quality is there, I do not know, but since they are allowed to trade, it means they meet sanitary standards.
                  Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                  Why did you decide not to go there? Has it become expensive?

                  No, I sometimes buy small things for the car there - napkins, detergents, some tools, water, that's why I paid attention to canned food at the exit.
                  Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                  Sayre Dobroflot in Lenta and Zelgros costs so much.

                  I was in Lente in January during a long vacation, but I can't remember that there are exorbitant prices. By the way, here are the prices for canned food in Lenta, and, as is typical for cardholders, discounts starting from 35 percent. So you are doing a little propaganda, "forgetting" to report it
                  https://lenta.com/catalog/ryba-i-moreprodukty/delikatesy-iz-ryby-i-moreproduktov/rybnye-preservy/
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                3. ccsr
                  ccsr 29 January 2021 13: 58
                  -1
                  Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                  Who are you keeping people here for? The average cost of a can of 240-250 grams is 132,55 rubles. And this is taking into account the Lenta card.

                  Well, on your own link, saury Neptune - 39 rubles, saury doroflot - 79 rubles. at a discount. Do you yourself look at everything, or do you only snatch out what is beneficial to you? And what does the quality have to do with it? I don’t like it, don’t buy, but choose the best if you can afford it. Only I did not see where the growth is reflected here from 100 to 180 rubles - maybe the retailer initially bought them at this price before the New Year, and now does not know how to sell?
                  Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                  Moreover, it is clear that the price in different Lenta stores is different.

                  Who would doubt it ... So look for the store where the prices for these products will suit you.
                  I have no other advice.
                  Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                  You know, Dixie also sells its stew. For 19 (!!!) rubles a tin can. I would like to see how you would eat what I saw when I bought one for fun and opened it at home.

                  This is a matter of your choice - no one forced you to do it, and for example I would not buy this product. To do this, at least occasionally watch something like "Our Consumer Supervision" on TV, and you will quickly figure out what you can buy and what not. You will not be so disappointed in life ...
                4. Foul skeptic
                  Foul skeptic 29 January 2021 14: 49
                  -1
                  Well, on your own link, saury Neptune - 39 rubles, saury doroflot - 79 rubles. at a discount. Do you yourself look at everything, or do you only snatch out what is beneficial to you?

                  Are you normal
                  Firstly, saury - 39,89 this is
                  Of all the positions, only one is cheap - 40 rubles (she also lowered the average price)

                  Secondly, Dobroflot for 79 does not fit into
                  can cost 240-250 trophy

                  She is smaller than the others. This time. It is promotional, it is two. We are considering a general increase in prices. Action is not binding on the seller. If you look specifically at this product on the market, you will see its average price (140-160 rubles). And three - this is another type of product - SPROTS, roughly speaking.
                  And what does the quality have to do with it? I don’t like it, don’t buy

                  belay Quality has nothing to do with it ?!
                5. ccsr
                  ccsr 29 January 2021 17: 26
                  -1
                  Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                  We are considering a general rise in prices.

                  Well, if there is official inflation in the country, then there cannot be a rise in prices - at least you can take it calmly, without strain? This is happening all over the world, and not just here. By the way, we also periodically index pensions, so they are trying to take care of the most disadvantaged by raising their pensions.
                  Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                  It is promotional, it is two.

                  Are you persuaded to buy such a product? By the way, in all chain stores there are a lot of goods with reduced prices - you probably rarely buy something yourself, and do not know about it. Go to the same fix-price and buy saury for 55 rubles, not 180 - and all your problems will be immediately solved.
                  Quote: Nefarious skeptic
                  Quality has nothing to do with it ?!

                  Affects the price - what does not suit you in this?
    2. nnm
      nnm 28 January 2021 18: 38
      -1
      I decided not to be smart and just look on the Internet. Below 100 is not:

      https://online.globus.ru/catalog/bakaleya/konservy-i-myed/rybnye-konservy/saira/
      1. kalibr
        kalibr 29 January 2021 11: 51
        0
        I once wrote here that in Penza, in the Magnit store near my house, red caviar in jars cost 340 rubles before the new year. with that ... On the market, the same caviar - 150 rubles. and in the Avocado store (again next to my house) - 102 rubles. Moreover, it was fresh and tasty. But the price difference is palpable, isn't it?
      2. ccsr
        ccsr 29 January 2021 12: 35
        -1
        Quote: nnm
        I decided not to be smart and just look on the Internet. Below 100 is not:

        Yes, you did not notice a can of saury for 99 rubles. But you also modestly kept silent about the discounts in the Globe on the card, and it sometimes reaches 15-30% of the value indicated on the price tag. I visit Globus from time to time and if you take goods for seven thousand, then fifteen hundred you get a discount for the card holder. I can be a little mistaken with some products, but on average it turns out that way.
  • Stirbjorn
    Stirbjorn 28 January 2021 08: 26
    +11
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    We are waiting for rr-disclosures of Olgovich!

    he will say that all this was already done under the tsar, but in Soviet times it was only crookedly used and by the 80s nothing remained of the tsar-father's inheritance, since the wild Bolsheviks did not know how to properly exploit wassat
  • tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 28 January 2021 09: 12
    +9
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Excellent, but how little, the topic is unbroken !! Thanks to the author!

    True, the topic has been very little touched upon. After 1953, under Khrushchev, it was not raised, but after the democrats and capitalists came to power, this topic, like all Soviet achievements, is under "taboo". Continue Olgovich, we are waiting.
    1. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 28 January 2021 09: 42
      +6
      After 1953, a lot of dissertations were defended on issues related to social policy in the 20s. And books were published and articles were published. This topic, on the contrary, was very popular both under Khrushchev and under Brezhnev.
    2. kalibr
      kalibr 29 January 2021 08: 18
      0
      Quote: tihonmarine
      After 1953, under Khrushchev, it was not raised, but after the democrats and capitalists came to power, this topic, like all Soviet achievements, is under "taboo".

      Who told you such nonsense. If you do not know something, this does not mean that it does not exist. Historical experience of the activity of the Soviet state in the formation of a system of social security of citizens: 1917-1941: on the materials of the Central Industrial Economic Region of the RSFSR
      the topic of the dissertation and the abstract for the Higher Attestation Commission of the Russian Federation 07.00.02, Candidate of Historical Sciences Kalyuzhnaya, Natalya Andreevna. 2011, Moscow Please, take and get acquainted.
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 29 January 2021 10: 03
        0
        Quote: kalibr
        1917-1941: Based on materials from the Central Industrial Economic Region of the RSFSR
        the topic of the dissertation and the abstract for the Higher Attestation Commission of the Russian Federation 07.00.02, Candidate of Historical Sciences Kalyuzhnaya, Natalya Andreevna. 2011, Moscow Please, take and get acquainted.

        Sorry, but with all due respect to you, a person who is well acquainted with the history of the party, for us common people this was practically not communicated by the media, and we have not read dissertations. I judge by the information that I could glean from print, radio and TV.
        1. kalibr
          kalibr 29 January 2021 11: 45
          +1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Sorry, but with all due respect to you, a person who is well acquainted with the history of the party, for us common people this was practically not communicated by the media, and we have not read dissertations. I judge by the information that I could glean from print, radio and TV.

          Vlad, excuse me too for the harshness. But ... now, you might have asked before writing about taboos? You were not informed THEN, but now everything is open. But you mean now, write "then", and this is a big difference.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 29 January 2021 10: 06
        0
        Quote: kalibr
        If you do not know something, this does not mean that it does not exist.

        And write on VO a good extensive article, we will all be grateful to you. We, the older generation, still know and remember something, but the younger generation does not know much.
        1. kalibr
          kalibr 29 January 2021 11: 53
          -1
          Quote: tihonmarine
          And write on VO a good extensive article, we will all be grateful to you.

          Okay I will try. But it won't be soon. I do not write with my finger to my forehead. I need to find reliable sources, read, look at cross-references. All this will take time.
  • Olgovich
    Olgovich 28 January 2021 12: 02
    -11%
    Quote: Vladimir_2U
    Excellent, but how little, the topic is unbroken !! Thanks to the author!

    Very few: there are tons of articles on the same topic on VO earlier.

    And this "article" is frankly small and simple ridiculous : the level of pension provision of the Republic of Ingushetia reached the following regime after many decades.

    In Russia
    overall, the pension system covered less 1/3 of the population.
    http://pfr.pba.su/Content/Read/271


    In the USSR, on the eve of the Second World War, only 7 (seven!)% Of the population who would be entitled to a pension by age received it (see VO articles)

    Collective farmers received a pension in general only in 1964-funny .... 12 rubles.

    And only 10-15% of collective farmers received pensions from collective farms until 1964

    Interestingly, the "humane" owls power came with various pre-revolutionary pension funds (funds of emerging, pension and other funds) - they simply robbed: what people and organizations have been collecting for their old age for decades was stolen

    And even more interestingly, she solved the issue with the pre-revolutionary pensioners: she simply stopped paying pension and they naturally (for the Bolsheviks, but not for normal people) died out from hunger .

    Because of their deaths, in particular, Petrograd and Moscow, etc., etc.
    1. DrEng527
      DrEng527 28 January 2021 12: 32
      -6
      Quote: Olgovich
      And this "article" is frankly small and simply ridiculous

      and not only in the matter of pensions! the author does not understand that initially the SV gave a split in society, giving privileges to one class, and this was a screen for the privileges of the party leadership request And the workers were deprived of the right to fight and their economic rights and surrendered to give handouts ... request
      1. kalibr
        kalibr 29 January 2021 11: 56
        0
        By the way, Sergey! Looking through the materials of the Penza archive of the OK KPSS, back in Soviet times, I found an interesting fact - the regional committee cleaner was given a bonus of 100 rubles for vacation. But such bonuses were not given to cleaning ladies in ordinary shops and institutions. Yes, the salary was the same! But the awards ... are different! But what was the difference between cleaning the floors at school and washing the floors in the regional committee?
        1. DrEng527
          DrEng527 29 January 2021 12: 01
          -1
          Quote: kalibr
          But what was the difference between cleaning the floors at school and washing the floors in the regional committee?

          This is the creation of a system, albeit a small screw, but it has superiority! wink Unfortunately, the neophytes of the USSR either did not live there and do not know the realities, or fell into insanity and remember only good things - youth, etc. ... request
        2. ccsr
          ccsr 29 January 2021 12: 41
          -1
          Quote: kalibr
          But what was the difference between cleaning the floors at school and washing the floors in the regional committee?

          First of all, it should have had a third form. Moreover, she could see or find some notes that some party slovens left on the table or even threw into the trash can. So it was not in vain that such a cleaner was paid bonuses - she had to sort the garbage before throwing it out of the basket.
    2. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 28 January 2021 12: 48
      +2
      Quote: Olgovich
      In Russia as a whole, the pension system covered less than 1/3 of the population.http: //pfr.pba.su/Content/Read/271

      laughing Here's an article from the same site, only much earlier.
      State pension insurance in Russia originated at the beginning of the twentieth century, which was much later than in most developed countries. In its development, it covered only a small part of the population of Russia, only the upper strata of the population could use it. But after the 1917 revolution, it was practically canceled.
      However, after a transitional period of economic instability, the socialist state began to create a fundamentally new pension system based on the principles of the constitutionally guaranteed state old-age pension, which was introduced in 1927. The pension system in force in the USSR functioned within the framework of the general system of social security and social insurance, which provided not only for the payment of pensions and benefits of various types, but also various forms of social, medical, sanatorium and resort services for workers, maintenance and services for the elderly and the disabled.
      http://pfr.pba.su/Content/Read/51
      Looks like they haven't managed to clean up modern crooks yet
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 28 January 2021 16: 11
        -3
        Quote: Stirbjorn
        Here's an article from the same site, only much earlier.

        Quote: Stirbjorn
        Looks like they haven't managed to clean up modern crooks yet


        Crooks and criminals are those who selected pensioners earned their pension in 1918

        Open the VO articles, where it is written, for WHAT percentage of the elderly, the Soviet system worked in 1937 - for SEVEN percent.

        This is ridiculous.
        1. Stirbjorn
          Stirbjorn 28 January 2021 19: 12
          +1
          Quote: Olgovich

          Open the VO articles, where it is written, for WHAT percentage of the elderly, the Soviet system worked in 1937 - for SEVEN percent.

          Well, give me a link - I hope not Samsonov author lol
    3. paul3390
      paul3390 28 January 2021 13: 07
      +6
      The "humane" owl authorities acted interestingly with various pre-revolutionary pension funds (funds of emerging, pension and other funds) - they simply robbed them: what people and organizations had been collecting for decades for their old age was stolen

      Who stole something? By 1917, deposits in tsarist rubles were worth little, and only after the revolution .. Nicholas were glued over toilets .. So your funds were either taken over by the bourgeoisie themselves, or they stupidly dissolved in the whirlwinds of inflation and changes in banknotes .. There was no there are no valuables before the arrival of the Bolsheviks - at best, a bunch of papers to kindle ..

      It's not even funny. Your government has refused to pay savings deposits in Soviet rubles? Although - received from the USSR property orders of magnitude more than the USSR from RI ...
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 28 January 2021 16: 44
        -6
        Quote: paul3390
        Who stole something? By 1917, deposits in tsarist rubles were worth little, and only after the revolution. They pasted over the toilets with Nikolashki.

        And after the VOR, they paid off with Nikolaev and Kerens: right up to 1919 at the so-called. There was no money of their own in power.

        And in 1922, the toilets were already abundantly pasted over with Soviet signs of the 1919 model.
        Quote: paul3390
        So your funds are either taken over by the bourgeois themselves, or they stupidly disappeared in the whirlwinds of inflation and changes in banknotes ..

        Funds of pensioners who worked for them all their lives-STEALED by the Bolsheviks-see. IN
        Quote: paul3390
        It's not even funny. Your government has refused to pay savings deposits in Soviet rubles? ..

        Here I agree: all the Bolsheviks had to be paid in conscientious rubles. And then let them paste over ...
        1. nnm
          nnm 28 January 2021 18: 45
          +1
          Quote: Olgovich
          And after the VOR, they paid off with Nikolaev and Kerens: right up to 1919 at the so-called. There was no money of their own in power.

          Colleague, you are twisting. Initially, there was an attempt to give up money circulation AT ALL.
    4. Foul skeptic
      Foul skeptic 28 January 2021 13: 16
      +2
      in general, the pension system covered less than 1/3 of the population

      And less than 1/3 is how much? ))
      Because your link directly says that the peasants, of course, did not have a pension. And there were 85% of them, that is, 1/3 is already being reduced from 33% to "no more than 15%." Pension legislation for employees, due to restrictions in the legislation itself, also extended not to 12 million, but to 2,5 million. At the same time, one must understand that 2,5 million is not so many people who will receive, but how much they could receive. In case of disability. So continue in the same vein to subtract 1/3 from yours and how much will you have left?
      In the USSR, on the eve of the Second World War, only 7 (seven!)% Of the population, which by age

      And why do you consider all categories of pension provision for RI, and for the USSR - only by age?
      funds of emerging, pension and other cash offices) - she just robbed them

      Could you, please, name how many pension deposits were on the accounts of these funds in 1918? And the number of contributors. And then let's see what inflation left of them.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 28 January 2021 14: 48
        +3
        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
        And less than 1/3 is how much? ))
        Because your link directly says that the peasants, of course, did not have a pension.

        so it says that retired officials and officers. And taking into account the fact that women were not taken as employees in the Republic of Ingushetia, it turns out that the pension was minuscule for the people! But of course less than 1/3, you can't argue here wassat
      2. Olgovich
        Olgovich 28 January 2021 17: 18
        -5
        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
        Because your link directly says that the peasants, of course, did not have a pension.

        The peasants had access to pensions through the zemstvo emerging funds.
        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
        Pension legislation for hired employees, due to restrictions in the legislation itself, also extended not to 12 million, but to 2,5 million.

        What does the 12-year Illness Provision Act have to do with it? Almost all estates participated in the emerging funds: there were pension funds for the military, railway employees, industrial workers, etc.

        Quote: Nefarious skeptic
        Could you, please, name how many pension deposits were on the accounts of these funds in 1918? And the number of contributors. And then let's see what inflation left of them.

        People in retirement LIVED before the thief, and after the funds were stolen from these millions of pensioners, they were doomed to painful death from hunger in the conditions of GW.

        What happened.

        And yes - hyperinflation - since 1918

        1. Foul skeptic
          Foul skeptic 29 January 2021 09: 50
          0
          The peasants had access to pensions through the zemstvo emerging funds.

          Of course not.
          And yes - hyperinflation - since 1918

          We'll deal with inflation later. You answer
          Could you, please, name how many pension deposits were on the accounts of these funds in 1918? And the number of contributors.
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    6. nnm
      nnm 28 January 2021 18: 39
      0
      Honestly, I thought that you would start with the fact that Napoleon III was the first to attend to this problem.
    7. nnm
      nnm 28 January 2021 18: 41
      +1
      Quote: Olgovich
      And even more interestingly, she resolved the issue with the pre-revolutionary pensioners: she simply stopped paying them a pension and they naturally (for the Bolsheviks, but not for normal people) died of hunger.

      Excuse me, but you can find out how many percent of citizens from this age category received a pension before 1917?
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 28 January 2021 20: 02
        -6
        Quote: nnm
        Excuse me, but you can find out how many percent of citizens from this age category received a pension before 1917?

        Several million people
        Quote: nnm
        Is it okay that state pensions in the USSR were introduced only in 1956?

        "Nothing" is little said: it is a shame for the so-called "people's" government
        And before that, the deductions were only for least wealthy segments of the population?

        Are these workers in the mining industry, teachers, etc.? belay
        Most likely, you are confusing the value of the pension from the collective farmer's earnings - 15%. Can you see reliable statistics on your words?

        Most likely, you did not understand the meaning of what you read, I repeat:
        But only 10-15% of collective farmers received pensions from collective farms until 1964:

        Source; monograph by L.N. Denisova "Disappearing village of Russia"
        1. nnm
          nnm 28 January 2021 20: 03
          +2
          Sorry colleague, but this is not the answer.
          Can you tell us the percentage of recipients or not? And the total number of citizens of the specified age category.
          1. Olgovich
            Olgovich 29 January 2021 10: 05
            -2
            Quote: nnm
            Sorry colleague, but this is not the answer.

            I do not forgive, colleague, but this is not a question.

            And about the quantity and the percentage, see. above.
    8. nnm
      nnm 28 January 2021 18: 47
      0
      Quote: Olgovich
      In the USSR, on the eve of the Second World War, only 7 (seven!)% Of the population who would be entitled to a pension by age received it (see VO articles)

      Is it okay that state pensions in the USSR were introduced only in 1956? And before that, the deductions were only for the poorest segments of the population?
    9. nnm
      nnm 28 January 2021 18: 49
      0
      Quote: Olgovich
      And only 10-15% of collective farmers received pensions from collective farms until 1964

      Most likely, you are confusing the value of the pension from the collective farmer's earnings - 15%. Can you see reliable statistics on your words?
    10. sniperino
      sniperino 29 January 2021 10: 55
      0
      Quote: Olgovich
      for the Bolsheviks, but not for normal people
      1. In support of your point of view on the Bolsheviks. The author gives out a super-cynical maxim
      a full-fledged system of social protection of the population, which covered all the inhabitants of the country, was formed only after the victory of the Bolsheviks
      To call a "full-fledged system of social protection of the population" the destruction of 10-15 million clergy, noblemen and Cossacks, who for centuries defended the country, peasants who fed the country, but did not fit into the idea of ​​the rural poor, taken from Bolshevik propaganda, workers and burghers who dared oppose such a system of "social protection of the population."
      2. Against your anti-Stalinism. Stalin put an end to this kind word "the son does not answer for the father" in 1935, which meant the curtailment of the class struggle in the country, and very quickly, resetting and sending to the camps the most influential and active Bolsheviks and those who sympathize with their system of "social protection of the population" in 1937, thereby creating conditions for the rallying of the country in the face of the fascist threat and victory in the Second World War.
  • Konnick
    Konnick 28 January 2021 20: 43
    0
    He's still a crunchy one. For some reason, the author did not mention in the article about one of the first decrees of the Soviet government, this achievement of social protection and the name of the corresponding DECRETARY VACATION.
  • kalibr
    kalibr 29 January 2021 08: 15
    +1
    What's great? Where are at least some figures by which it is possible - and not by head statements to judge the achievements? It would be decent to give at least a little comparison - then - it was - now - it is. So don't expose! Expose with specific data!
  • apro
    apro 28 January 2021 07: 47
    +12
    The successes of the world's first welfare state always arouses the righteous anger of highly efficient owners when huge state funds passed their pockets ...
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 28 January 2021 07: 50
    +4
    An eaten topic, everything is in the past, I'm interested in the privatization of the 90s, names, surnames, company names, or is this not welcome on the site?
    1. Far B
      Far B 28 January 2021 08: 22
      +2
      Truncated is in tyrnet. Unfortunately, these are only the first and last names of the dolls. Personally, I am interested in the names of the puppeteers.
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        1. Pessimist22
          Pessimist22 28 January 2021 10: 11
          +7
          I would shoot Chubais first.
          1. Mordvin 3
            Mordvin 3 28 January 2021 10: 27
            +2
            Quote: Pessimist22
            I would shoot Chubais first.

            There was also Gaidar.
            Finance Minister Alexei Kudrin shared:

            - Few people know about this, but Yegor Gaidar worked with us in close contact until the last days. We constantly called each other and met - he gave his expert assessments of our decisions. True, understanding how this could be perceived by a part of society, I did not want to advertise this. We will miss him.

            - Yegor left us a solid legacy - to take the same tax system, in the development and formation of which he took an active part, - said Gaidar's institute comrade and current Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Zhukov.

            - We bury the righteous, we bury the saint, - as always, Valeria Novodvorskaya spoke emotionally. - Yegor Gaidar was a real Decembrist, Mozart of reforms.

            Read on WWW.KP.RU: https://www.kp.ru/daily/24414/587208/

            They will say the same about Chubais.
            1. DrEng527
              DrEng527 28 January 2021 12: 30
              -2
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              They will say the same about Chubais.

              they say about Lenin and others - why is this redhead worse?
            2. Jaromir
              Jaromir 28 January 2021 22: 49
              +5
              Quote: Mordvin 3
              There was also Gaidar.

              There was, only this chubby-cheeked one escaped the people's court, like the ebn, Novodvorskaya ...
          2. paul3390
            paul3390 28 January 2021 12: 58
            +1
            Do not think economically. Proletarian bullet - still need to be earned .. First, let the investigators tell about his affairs in detail, hand over all accomplices, return the loot stolen to the people, then let him repent publicly for his immeasurable guilt, and only then can the highest measure of social protection be possible ..
          3. nnm
            nnm 28 January 2021 18: 51
            0
            What's the point? Ozh is just one of many. Moreover, he is, in essence, just a tool ...
            The question is in those who stood and are behind people like Chubais.
            And so .... as a change of prime ministers and ministers in our government. The faces are new, and as there was no time to swing, there is still no ...
          4. Jaromir
            Jaromir 28 January 2021 22: 47
            +2
            Quote: Pessimist22
            I would shoot Chubais first.

            Do not, do not shoot, as with traitors, the gallows.
    2. apro
      apro 28 January 2021 08: 26
      -11%
      Quote: Pessimist22
      , I am interested in the privatization of the 90s, names, surnames, company names

      And I do not. The will of the Russian people. By elections. Chose just such a path of development. This is his right.
      1. nnm
        nnm 28 January 2021 18: 57
        +2
        And you compare what they promised the people before the elections - from small, cosmetic changes in the format of the union and to the bowels of the people, with what they did. Perhaps you will stop talking about the people choosing this path.
        1. apro
          apro 28 January 2021 19: 03
          0
          Quote: nnm
          Perhaps you will stop talking about the people choosing this path.

          I chose ... I chose ... I remember throwing party tickets, how they branded the planning system, how they wanted the market, the abolition of censorship, and no one hid it.
          And what does it mean cosmetically? If they proposed to completely destroy the Soviet economy and the backbone of the USSR, the communist ideology ..
          1. nnm
            nnm 28 January 2021 19: 06
            +1
            Are you talking about people or power? I don’t remember that the party cards tearing up in the stands say that soon they will not promise the preservation of a strong union in the CIS format, but will even offer the regions of Russia to take away sovereignty as much as they can. I do not remember stories about loans-for-shares auctions before the "choice" of the people. I don’t remember what the new guarantor would promise to drink like a pig and give away the country's property to the oligarchs .... so what the people demanded and what they promised differs from what they received as heaven and earth.
            1. apro
              apro 28 January 2021 19: 08
              -2
              Quote: nnm
              Are you talking about people or power?

              About the population.
              1. nnm
                nnm 28 January 2021 19: 10
                +1
                Above answered. It is foolish, of course, to deny that the stagnation has gotten everyone. But now we are proud to call the same period stability. But what happened next, as if no one chose from the people. We tried exactly the opposite. And they made us just like suckers.
                1. apro
                  apro 28 January 2021 19: 42
                  -4
                  Quote: nnm
                  And made us just like suckers

                  Do not be pity. No one will regret it. It was a conscious choice of the majority. Communist attitudes are too heavy for society. They limit animal instincts. And how I wanted to fight. To show my greed. To national exclusivity. In capitalism, it’s easier. Everything is possible for loot.
                  And educating society in the mainstream of civilization is not a rewarding job. Howls about repressions do not subside today.
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 January 2021 09: 25
      +1
      Quote: Pessimist22
      I am interested in the privatization of the 90s, names, surnames, company names, or is this not welcome on the site?

      Yes, it will not fit into any article, this is the volume of the ITU.
      1. nnm
        nnm 28 January 2021 18: 57
        +1
        More precisely the volumes of the criminal case ...
    4. Sergej1972
      Sergej1972 28 January 2021 09: 45
      +3
      Since then, most of the objects have been resold many times, corporatized, etc., and some have come under the control of state corporations such as Rostec.
      1. Pessimist22
        Pessimist22 28 January 2021 10: 13
        +5
        So they were privatized for nothing, and sold and resold later, and the money was withdrawn abroad, kapets in general, I will never forgive this robbing of the people and I also bring up children.
  • Dimy4
    Dimy4 28 January 2021 08: 09
    +12
    But thanks to the grandiose Soviet experiment, we now have a relatively developed system of social protection of the population.

    Alas, we will soon turn into had.
  • Pilot
    Pilot 28 January 2021 08: 17
    +2
    Great article, except for this one ..
    But thanks to the grandiose Soviet experiment, we now have a relatively developed system of social protection of the population.
    Even the word "relatively" does not correspond to reality, all this today is just crumbs from the master's table.
  • prior
    prior 28 January 2021 08: 17
    +11
    No matter how eaten away this topic may seem, it will always remain relevant.
    None of the parents and teachers teach their children to lie, steal, or cheat.
    But these children grow up and what they see - lies, theft, nepotism of those in power ... and further down the list, that is, a complete lack of social justice.
    We, adults, have exchanged ourselves, have overgrown with property and some real estate, as well as experience, how you can easily lose this property. So we sit on sofas and on websites, splashing discontent, without any exhaust.
    So, young people and schoolchildren did not even marry for Navalny, but in search of justice, in search of their future.
    And the palaces ?! Is it only in Gelendzhik palaces? All the suburbs are built up with them and not only.
    So, there will be no social justice - January 23 will surely repeat itself, will repeat itself on an ever larger scale.
    And yet, when young people in uniform and helmets understand that they have no future just like those whom they care for with clubs, then real fun will begin ...
    Give us the return of socialism in Russia!
    1. dauria
      dauria 28 January 2021 11: 57
      -8
      Give us the return of socialism in Russia!

      Build capitalism first. At least with trade unions and strikes. Where an organized strike is part of the country's governing system, and not "senseless and merciless." And where the state (the very oligarchs) understand the need and inevitability of trade unions in the normal functioning of the country. A kind of feedback in the control loop. The USA, the Germans and even the Finns are on strike. And no one does a damn thing to their postmen, teachers, railroad workers and dispatchers.
      Of course, up to reasonable limits. So after all, pogroms are a sign of a controlled parameter leaving the "direction finding zone" of regulation.
      Do you think the "communist" Chinese will not face this? Give a deadline - the entire track will be completed.
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 January 2021 20: 30
      +3
      Quote: prior
      Give the return of socialism

      It is impossible, there is no force that unites the people - a progressive party, the people are not ready for this, and instead of the desired one, there will be another Maidan, as in 1993.
      Dreams, dreams, where are your sweets.
      1. Jaromir
        Jaromir 28 January 2021 22: 58
        +5
        Quote: tihonmarine
        there is no force uniting the people - a progressive party

        I think the point here is not so much in the party as in the fact that no one is working with the population. Nobody communicates his thoughts, ideas, programs to the people. If we recall the history of Russia at the beginning of the 20th century, then there we will see the work of political parties and movements with people. Then the party representatives went to the people, to the people, explaining their ideas.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 January 2021 23: 48
          +1
          Quote: Jaromir
          I think the point here is not so much in the party as in the fact that no one is working with the population.

          And I mean what? Who will work with the population - if not the party. But there is no such party. There is even no one to resist the tumbler riffraff. Well, you write "Party representatives went to the people." This is how the party comes out. And the power was taken by the party, which was workers' and tough, and not some Cadets or Socialist-Revolutionaries.
          1. Jaromir
            Jaromir 28 January 2021 23: 53
            +1
            Quote: tihonmarine
            This is how the party comes out

            Yes, you are probably right ... But the party consists of people plus an idea. Now there are parties, there are ideas, but party members do not go to the people. This is how it turns out not in the party, but in those who represent it.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 29 January 2021 00: 00
              +1
              Quote: Jaromir
              But the party consists of people plus an idea. Now there are parties, there are ideas, but party members do not go to the people.

              Think correctly, party-idea-people. The party that will go to the people. And all these united Russia, and all the others, are parties of seats in parliament and portfolios. They do not bring progress, they have no ideas for building a society.
      2. prior
        prior 29 January 2021 09: 28
        0
        I would follow Natasha Poklonskaya. She would have read a full course on the history of the party and can be a president.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 29 January 2021 10: 11
          0
          Quote: prior
          I would follow Natasha Poklonskaya. She would have read a full course on the history of the party and can be a president.

          So at least she has ideas, but the opposition is only taking part in meetings, but they have no idea, no platform. Take Navalny, Sobol - what is their idea?
          1. prior
            prior 29 January 2021 10: 20
            0
            They have an idea, even an idea - to take the first places in the first ranks of the state "trough".
            But the trouble is, such a crush and bickering, God forbid ...
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 29 January 2021 10: 48
              +1
              Quote: prior
              They have an idea, even an idea - to take the first places in the first ranks of the state "trough".

              This idea is called - "grab a freebie" and fall into the trough.
        2. ccsr
          ccsr 29 January 2021 12: 49
          -1
          Quote: prior
          I would follow Natasha Poklonskaya. She would have read a full course on the history of the party and can be a president.

          Unfortunately, she has a disease that will prevent her from becoming the head of the country, and she is called "career speed disease." Because of this illness, people like her suddenly imagine that they have learned and figured out everything in life, and in the end they find themselves in the situation of Solzhenitsyn - he didn’t need him even nafig. Her finest hour has passed, and unfortunately she did not understand that such a chance happens once in a lifetime. So you hardly have to go after her.
  • Most polite
    Most polite 28 January 2021 08: 18
    +4
    Almost immediately after the revolution, the Soviet government began to organize a full-fledged system of social protection for the working class.


    In reality, this system started working only in the mid-60s. , when the country was able to more or less recover. Then all these social gains in the 90s were safely lost, now it remains only to be puzzled and envious of the same French or Scandinavians ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 January 2021 20: 35
      +2
      Quote: Most polite
      Then all these social conquests in the 90s were safely lost, now all that remains is to be perplexed and envious of the same French or Scandinavians ...

      Precisely, when the Scandinavians worked, we prayed at the stadiums to Kashpirovsky, shouted "Freedom to Mavrodi!" and alcohol "Royal" ate.
  • rocket757
    rocket757 28 January 2021 08: 35
    +6
    No matter how much admirers of pre-revolutionary Russia liked to talk about charity and good merchants and landowners - patrons, a full-fledged system of social protection of the population, which covered all the inhabitants of the country, was formed only after the victory of the Bolsheviks.

    That's right!
    What has the ruling class become? Working people, the main support of the state ... the state takes care of ITSELF, it turned out just about the working class.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 29 January 2021 10: 56
      +1
      Quote: rocket757
      No matter how much admirers of pre-revolutionary Russia liked to talk about charity and good merchants and landowners - patrons, a full-fledged system of social protection of the population, which covered all the inhabitants of the country, was formed only after the victory of the Bolsheviks.

      That's right!
      What has the ruling class become? Working people, the main support of the state ... the state takes care of ITSELF, it turned out just about the working class.

      Pak in the song "We all came out of the people, children of a working family, this is our motto and freedom ..."
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 29 January 2021 11: 03
        +1
        Such a song cannot be killed or forgotten!
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 29 January 2021 11: 22
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          Such a song cannot be killed or forgotten!

          Well, yes, only now everyone tries this song on to his beloved.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 29 January 2021 11: 35
            +1
            You can try it on ... just not for everyone.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 28 January 2021 08: 41
    +4
    The main achievements of Soviet power can be confidently considered the education of literate citizens, bearers of socialist morality, which made it possible to break (despite the collective efforts of the imperialists) the backbone of German fascism. What was done for citizens (and what was done through "thorns to the stars") can be written for a long time and in more detail. It can be pointed out that the construction of the world's first socialist country was not carried out smoothly and was not always fair, but here is what was said about the leader who was at the origins:

    It would be possible to ignore such statements, if not for the pace of development of the country, in which the speaker was the helmsman, and not a galley rower.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 28 January 2021 09: 01
      +7
      The main achievements of Soviet power

      The main achievement of the Soviet regime - I personally believe that people seriously believed in the possibility of a bright future. For his offensive - the Soviet government daily proved by concrete deeds to improve the life of the people .. And if you believe in something - and life is noticeably more fun and calmer ..

      Unlike the now vile times, when every day you are just waiting for what will once again protect you from your beloved state and adored guarantor .. About the bright future - even our great storyteller hasn’t stuttered for several years .. It’s not so real .. The reality is that it will only get worse.
      1. Stirbjorn
        Stirbjorn 28 January 2021 12: 55
        +1
        Quote: paul3390
        About the bright future - even our great storyteller hasn't stuttered for several years ..
        So it has already come for him, they have been living there for a long time according to the principle "Stop a beautiful moment"
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 28 January 2021 20: 46
        +1
        Quote: paul3390
        The main achievement of the Soviet regime - I personally believe that people seriously believed in the possibility of a bright future.

        It is said correctly, only suddenly at one moment, maybe for a short time this faith suddenly disappeared, and there was a return to capitalism. And we have not yet realized why it happened. Until we realize, everything will be as it is now.
        And besides everything else, reactionary forces appeared.
        1. paul3390
          paul3390 28 January 2021 22: 02
          +1
          faith suddenly disappeared and there was a return to capitalism

          Faith did not disappear, just at some point - we were very famously replaced by the criteria for a bright future .. And instead of starships, cloudy cities and general communist equality - there were jeans, chewing gum and colored Marlboro plastic bags .. But who and how did it - I haven't figured it out myself yet. However - and when exactly ..
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 28 January 2021 23: 30
            0
            Quote: paul3390
            But who and how did it - I have not yet understood myself. However - and when exactly ..

            Let's just say, when they put on the first jeans, chewed the first chewing gum, faith changed, and then off we go.
  • Van 16
    Van 16 28 January 2021 09: 01
    +8
    Then, in conditions of war and devastation, laws were passed and everything was done to improve the life of the people. Now, in the conditions of "stability", when there is neither war nor devastation, laws are being adopted to improve the life of a very narrow circle of people, at the expense of worsening the life of the overwhelming majority of the people. The difference, as they say, is obvious.
  • Van 16
    Van 16 28 January 2021 09: 29
    +8
    Not quite the topic, but the feeling that we live in some time of absurdity. The news flashed about the renaming of TOZ. Considering that at one time it was awarded orders, now its name will sound in full - the Imperial Order of Lenin and the Red Banner of Labor Tula Armory Plant.
    Oxymoron, damn it ..
  • Alt 22
    Alt 22 28 January 2021 09: 49
    +7
    Yes, there were a lot of social guarantees under the USSR - the Russian Federation is still reducing them, it can not finish it off, although there are not so many of them left ...
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 28 January 2021 10: 16
    +6
    Of course, there was nothing to do with social security, the country was built, then restored, but there was concern ... Free milk for babies, dairy kitchens. there is a lot to say. And such a moment, the sanatorium-resort provision was carried out without conditions. Now, according to the collective agreement, like the employer will give you money for treatment if you do not go on strike ..
  • Gardamir
    Gardamir 28 January 2021 10: 27
    +5
    Already on November 14, 1917, the People's Commissariat of State Charity was established, whose duties included taking care of the elderly, minors, protecting mothers and infants, helping war invalids and their families.
    And now, in 20 years, I only ask for understanding.
    1. Stirbjorn
      Stirbjorn 28 January 2021 12: 56
      +1
      rather "no money, but you hold on"
  • smaug78
    smaug78 28 January 2021 10: 40
    +3
    Polonsky ...
  • Dmitry Potapov
    Dmitry Potapov 28 January 2021 11: 09
    0
    Describe it in textbooks. It is necessary to poke liberese in the face
  • A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 28 January 2021 12: 19
    +1
    For those interested in the topic of social protection.

    The first kindergartens were created in Germany in the middle of the XNUMXth century.
    The first state pension system was also created in Germany at the end of the 70th century. It was created on the initiative of the "iron chancellor" Otto von Bismarck for those "who cannot work because of their age" - then people left for a well-deserved rest after XNUMX years.

    In 1916, despite the war, the retirement age in Germany was reduced to 65 years and remained so for almost 100 years.

    Following Germany, in 1891, Denmark introduced the pension system, in 1898 New Zealand, in 1908 Great Britain, and in 1910 France. It introduced compulsory pension insurance of employees for old age, disability and loss of breadwinner.

    Only in 1930, the USSR adopted the “Regulation on Pensions and Benefits for Social Insurance”, and in 1932, the legislatively established age for retirement was 55 years for women and 60 for men. Finally, the pension system in the Soviet Union was established only in 1956, together with the adoption of the law "On state pensions."

    I'm not talking about the notorious American food stamps - food stamps that are issued to citizens who have no income or have low income. This program worked in the 30s and 40s and began to work again in 1961 and is valid to this day.
    With the card you can buy meat, fish, bread, cereals, vegetables, fruits, almost any food. You cannot buy hot food with Food Stamp Benefits, for example, hot fried chicken (and you can cold!), Alcohol, cigarettes, dog food, washing powder, medicines. There is not very much money on this card, that is, using only food stamps, you cannot feed yourself. As a matter of fact, the program is called SNAP, Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program - that is, additional assistance in nutrition, and not complete provision of food). So, the maximum that you can get per month is $ 194 per person. A family of four will be given a maximum of $ 646 per month.

    hi
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 28 January 2021 12: 54
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      In the USSR, it was only in 1930 that the "Regulations on Pensions and Social Insurance Benefits" was adopted, and in 1932 the retirement age for old age was legally established: 55 for women and 60 for men.

      I don’t think that after WWI and Civil War, the USSR had the physical ability to pay massive pensions for the first 10 years of its existence .. Pokaaaa, at least somehow everything that was ruined was put in order. Yes, and the inheritance from RI got - let's just say, not very great .. The Union of the new Russian Federation left just orders of magnitude more .. And in 30 years they did not manage to gobble up ..
    2. apro
      apro 28 January 2021 13: 47
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      Quote: A. Privalov
      In the USSR, only 1930 was adopted "Regulations on pensions and social insurance benefits",

      How bad everything is. Only the economic fire of the USSR in comparison with the leading capitalist countries do not announce? That per capita income? Natural conditions in the main territory.?
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 28 January 2021 14: 00
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        Quote: apro
        How bad everything is. Only the economic fire of the USSR in comparison with the leading capitalist countries do not announce? That per capita income? Natural conditions in the main territory.?


        I brought the material for reference only. hi

        Compared to the capitalist countries, everything was great.
        good




        1. apro
          apro 28 January 2021 14: 22
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          Quote: A. Privalov
          I brought the material for reference only.

          Of course ... there is an elder in the garden. And in Kiev there is an old man.
          And thanks for the posters. I remembered where I live. And the communists did not lie about capitalism.
  • Konnick
    Konnick 28 January 2021 20: 32
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    Quote: apro
    Quote: ccsr
    Why are the current agrarian successes straining you if they generate more income from sales on international markets than we get from the sale of weapons?

    And the fact that these successes are strongly reflected in the well-being of the population, prices will soar into heaven.

    And the quality of the food is deteriorating. Can be shown using the example of white bread. During my work in the autumn in the Kuban, I enjoyed the local white bread. There is no such thing in Moscow for a long time. Many people remember cakes, bagels and other names of bread products of the era of stagnation. We are now boasting - under the Communists, we bought grain and made only galoshes, and now we are the largest grain exporters. Only then, in stagnation, we bought the best wheat in the USA, Canada and Italy, the so-called hard varieties, specifically for premium flour and, accordingly, baking, such wheat is ripening now in the Stavropol Territory, in the Krasnodar Territory and, in my opinion, in Altai. There is not enough for everyone, well, the climate is not the same for such wheat, if previously imported elite wheat was used for the production of white bread and the quality of the bread was excellent, now bread is baked from ordinary wheat using various bleaches and baking powder. And we export mainly grain for livestock feed and durum wheat, which we ourselves are lacking. So, in order to eat good bread, one has to go to the southern villages and buy bread from local bakeries, which are stocked with flour from local grain. In Moscow, bread, for example, quickly grows moldy and there is practically no bread without the use of improvers. Some victories, only galoshes with a red calico lining have already forgotten how to make.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 29 January 2021 10: 03
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      Yes, and in Altai, good wheat is raked for export. Basically, rubber-baked goods in chains, with the rare exception of rare kfk in regional centers.