"And once they accused Nicholas II": a view from the West at Navalny's film and Putin's comments

The foreign press is actively discussing the answers of the Russian president to questions from students about the latest events in the country.

Recall that the day before, on Student's Day, Vladimir Putin answered questions, among which there were questions about what the head of state has to do with the "palace" near Gelendzhik, to which Navalny (or, rather, the one who stands behind him) dedicated the whole movie. According to the President of Russia, the "object" in question in this film does not belong and has never belonged either to him or to his family members.

Putin:

Well, at least some documents should have remained, contracts certified by a notary, in the end. But nothing is presented, because it is nothing. I will say with the phrase of a famous character from the classics "Boring, girls ..." If only they came up with something else.

Putin recalled that talk about this "palace near Gelendzhik" has been going on for at least ten years.

Putin:

And now we decided to collect everything in one heap ...

Putin's responses are commented on in the Western press and the blogosphere. Let's imagine a view from the West.

Readers of the Greek edition of Pentapostagma.

Cookies:

This video (about the palace) doesn't say much. Is there anything else besides the video?

Pαπαγάλος:

For ten years they have been trying to prove something, but it does not work out. It turns out, perhaps, fakes. Navalny is unlikely to be able to seriously convince anyone.

Grenadiers:

History repeats in Russia. Previously, they chased Romanov (Nicholas II), accused him. The accusations were about family ties with the villain Rasputin. And he shouldn't have paid attention to those snakes that bit him. Now they are trying to repeat it with Putin.

Polish observer Marek Budzisch, meanwhile, believes that Navalny "was able to expose Putin." According to him, “something similar to the February revolution” happened in Russia (talking about the 1917 revolution). Apparently, in Poland they continue to dream of a big coup on Russian soil.

In the British press, as always, there is unanimity in relation to the Russian Federation. The authors call for the imposition of sanctions against the president, punishing Navalny's arrest.

The Italian edition IFQ notes that in Navalny's film it is worth paying attention to the statement about "Putin's construction of his palace on the Black Sea coast within 15 years." Italian readers note that Putin “built a bridge to Crimea in 3 years”, stadiums for the 2018 FIFA World Cup and facilities for the Sochi Olympics in 5-7 years.

One of the comments:

Does this mean that Putin manages to build huge sports facilities faster than a villa by the sea? Kind of weird…

Comments

[Svarog]

I watched the answers .. well, of course, the student read the written instructions .. but the answers did not impress .. Well, I would answer then, who we still have so rich and whom the FSO and FSB are protecting.

[Volodin]

Quote: Svarog

I watched the answers .. well, of course

Well, what a movie, such questions and answers ...

[Pilot]

Quote: Volodin

Quote: Svarog

I watched the answers .. well, of course

Well, what a movie, such questions and answers ...

Indeed, one must answer simply and intelligibly for the deep people))

[military_cat]

I will say the phrase of the famous character from the classics "Boring, girls ..."

Yes, it’s either at the aquadiskotheque.

[Orange bigg]

... "And once they accused Nicholas II": a view from the West at Navalny's film and Putin's comments

Someone in the West is already burning in one place as they want to make Nicholas II out of Putin, and out of present-day Russia the Russian Empire since its collapse. This is what they want. And they don't even hide it. And fairy tales about the palace are nothing more than an attempt to manipulate the public consciousness of Russians in order to add fuel to the fire. An attempt to set the country on fire. Such arson was widely used in Ukraine in 2014, during the Arab Spring of 2011. It is known how it all ended. There were the same charges of embezzlement.

[paul3390]

There were the same charges of embezzlement.

I understand correctly - you assure that there was no embezzlement anywhere ?? Or were they - but people around are wrong, indignant at their scale? And from here the conclusion - if you want to save the country, you must definitely come to terms with the unlimited theft of the ruling class? Like - it is impossible for any cattle to rock the luxury yacht of the state?

[mikh-korsakov]

Paul. As a matter of fact, why is everyone so excited? The fact that in 1991 the restoration of capitalism took place in the USSR, which led, among other things, to the collapse of the country - I hope no one denies. If there is private property and the exploitation of man by man, then the concentration of the money masses in the hands of a group of individuals is inevitable. Many are accustomed to beating themselves in the chest with the constitution, claiming that according to the constitution in the Russian Federation, power belongs to the people. Haha. But the constitution contains a lot of things, in particular, that private property in the Russian Federation is sacred and inviolable, and if so, excuse our business, that a group of comrades threw off there and decided to build a palace, even if they are friends of Putin, they are for friendship with Putin did not sign up to live in a communal apartment. Someone built a dacha for themselves, and someone a palace "as much as possible." To avoid this, it was necessary in 1991 not to shout "Yeltsin, Yeltsin", but to preserve the Soviet regime, under which they also stole, but were shy for show. As for the perimeter security, this question should be addressed to the FSB. A group of comrades could well afford to conclude a security agreement with the FSB. Now, if Navalny and his team were not just cheap demagogues, but fighters for justice, it would be worth checking this agreement with lawyers "is there a composition ..." As for the protection from the sea, I admit that either Putin himself or someone I also visited this palace by invitation - they have the right. Then, and at the time of the visit, security from the sea is set up - I saw it myself in Sochi.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

A group of comrades could well afford to conclude a security agreement with the FSB.

In the federal law on the FSB, in article 13, which says what is allowed by the FSB, they somehow forgot to prescribe a point - to protect, for a small amount of money, pure kancrety guys. So ... A group of comrades, which they could quite afford, should have already mastered bunks, next to another group of comrades, already from the FSB. Be Russia really a legal state.

[Stas157]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

A group of comrades could well afford conclude a security agreement with the FSB.

And how not that !!)) If someone needs a watchman, well, there is a guard - call the FSB, you won't be mistaken. Their activity is wide! They can also wash their panties.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

It's funny: for TWENTY years you and the West have been trying to "dig up" something on Putin and accuse him of stealing! And all 20 years you have a bummer and NOTHING, except for muddy nonsense, ничем, except for the high-likes NOT confirmed, no! "Saw, Shura, saw ..."

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

It's funny: for TWENTY years you and the West have been trying to "dig up" something on Putin and accuse him of stealing! And for all 20 years you have been a bummer and NOTHING, except for muddy nonsense, nothing, except for a high-level-like, NOT confirmed, no! "Saw, Shura, saw ...

I also say that he is a holy schema and has nothing to do with his billions of friends.

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: Stroporez

I also say that he is a holy schema and has nothing to do with his billions of friends.

Will you present data or simply ?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Vladimir Mashkov

Will you present facts or just?

Gee, in this case, are you acting as a tro-lo-lo, or will you begin to deny the fact that such friends of a citizen of Putin as Timchenko, Rotenbergs, Shamalov's father and son (the president's son-in-law) are not billionaires?

[BastaKarapuzik And]

Have you listed all your friends, or maybe there are mere mortals?

[BastaKarapuzik And]

We talked about it all day today. Putin has nothing to do with this building at all.
Bulk material is completely sucked out of the finger, as always.
But then he crossed the line.

[paul3390]

private property in the Russian Federation is sacred and inviolable

It is a pity that in our constitution it is not written down that it is impossible to steal ... And property is, like, sacred until there is no criminal case against it ..

[Sling cutter]

Quote: mikh-korsakov

what, excuse our business, that there a group of comrades threw off and decided to build a palace, even if they are friends of Putin, they did not sign for friendship with Putin to live in a communal apartment. Someone built a dacha for themselves, and someone a palace "as much as possible."

The thing is that the country is being mercilessly robbed and a friend of friends not only allows this, but encourages these actions.

[BastaKarapuzik And]

The cotton business of the times of the USSR as an example of the fact that there is and was and will be theft.
It is not necessary to put up with it, as well as to think in terms of classes.
However, count the governors, mayors or officials who were or are still in prison. Type in the request directly into the search engine

governor mayor official convicted arrested charged

And what, the fight against corruption is not visible at all?
In principle, it will never stop, as long as there is state property, they will encroach on it.
There will be no state property, there will be no corruption.
But that's not what we are trying to achieve?

[Essex62]

These sitting governors, mayors, officials are just victims of internal squabbles within the organized criminal group. All this grew out of the 90s and remains there, lacquered. In such matters, dear fellow, the class composition and social order are of paramount importance. This is what you need to measure.
In Uzbekistan and in general in the Central Asian republics, Soviet power was effective only in the capitals, partly in large cities. One of the factors of the collapse of the empire, but with the other, the Islamic world, the communists could not do anything, it is not trained and we do not assimilate en masse, in principle.
In the USSR, while he was fighting, the elders scored - he died. The class struggle should never stop for a minute, even in developed socialism.

[BastaKarapuzik And]

There is no class struggle per se, no socialism, no capitalism.
"She's in ruins." (FROM)
So it is here.

Regarding the Central Asian republics, the mentality is indeed different from the average "homo sovetikus". but nevertheless this is not the obstacle in the fight against which it is necessary
"we will destroy to the ground" and bruise your head.

[Essex62]

There is also a class struggle and socialism against capitalism, as it is. What kind of game? And a quote from a book, albeit a talented counterpart of Bulgakov, is not at all an argument. It's not about the system, it's about sloppiness and laziness. "Comrade" Shvonder, although he put on a "komisar's jacket", does not look like a Bolshevik much. Those, from the beginning of the century, were very active and intelligent people. They scraped off the millennial power of the backward, got him into the Civil, restored the country from devastation, real and not in heads, and built a society of equals with a ban on the paradigm - money is power.

[BastaKarapuzik And]

There is no socialism with capitalism. The USSR was so different over the years of its existence. Heaven and earth! Do you mean to say that under Trotsky, Stalin, Khrushchev and Gorbachev, everything was the same? Khrushchev so departed from the Stalinist way, one might say, he broke everything! The changes are dramatic, the consequences are still felt!
China is ruled by the Communist Party, formally! In fact, it differs in its policy from the Communist Party of the USSR, nothing in common except for the name.
The desire to put labels on everything like classes, socialism and capitalism is a purely sectarian form of simplification. The real world is as rich and varied as an applique cut from colored paper differs from the original!
The real world is constantly changing, this is not a frozen picture, but a raging stream!

[Essex62]

Already, under Ulyanov, Bronstein and others, the main principle existed and prevailed - a ban on personal enrichment. This is the fundamental difference that defines the two systems. And the society of the USSR used this basis for decades, until it relaxed and allowed the hucksters to restore their system. The world is, of course, raging and diverse, but in this respect it is black and white. Or a comrade, i.e. an equal, or a gentleman who has the right to bend one who has little colored, cut paper. The world is changing, it is unchanging. Or either. Therefore, the class struggle is necessary and inevitable. A man of labor, not a huckster, should dictate conditions and order in society.

[BastaKarapuzik And]

Quote: Essex62

ban on personal enrichment.

This is sectarianism.
Is a private baker and beekeeper also personal enrichment?

[lucul]

This is sectarianism.
Is a private baker and beekeeper also personal enrichment?

You are confusing here, between enrichment as a result of your labor, and enrichment as a result of deception, manipulation of others, that is, at the expense of deceiving other people.

[BastaKarapuzik And]

Quote: lucul

enrichment as a result of deception, manipulation of others, i.e. at the expense of deceiving other people

All this should be described in the criminal code.
You can deservedly criticize the existing system, which includes usury, etc. This is disgusting and unworthy. But not everyone is like that among the rich.
Who, for example, did Henry Ford deceive? And why should a person be limited, his freedom of will, by what RIGHT? And who will then create these factories and so on?
There were brilliant leaders in the USSR, but over the years, for some reason, they were crushed with a caliber. I wonder why? Why, for example, should the boss receive fewer subordinates? And then who will go to these bosses? And most importantly, why?
To come to a leadership position with a low salary, to abuse, enjoy privileges, take bribes and steal? Why do we need such leaders?

[Essex62]

And the boss has other preferences and incentives. He monotonously, on the conveyor does not fasten the same nut to Ford, does not grind fifteen hundred identical blanks on a lathe, does not pull on the excavator levers for 8 hours in a row, he sits in a warm office, in a white collar and "leads". If a baker and a baker are allowed to enrich themselves, without a "ceiling", then the prerequisites for enrichment in other areas will arise. A socially oriented society can only be built on strict control and restrictions. The pie is always finite, to prevent a bunch of inhumans from eating in three throats, the main function of the socialist state.
This can only be changed by full robotization, the ability to create an unlimited number of products. But even in this abundance, morality should self-restrict citizens. And why does one person need five Mercedes or space shuttles? One ass, you can't ride five at once.

[BastaKarapuzik And]

The cost of a boss's mistakes is much higher.

Quote: Essex62

he sits in a warm office, in a white collar and "leads"

Nobody needs such a boss for nothing.
Well, the idea that robotization, machines and mechanisms can change the person himself, is not working in principle.

Quote: Essex62

And why does one person need five Mercedes or space shuttles?

Ask if there was egalitarianism under Stalin? These are years of rather intensive construction. Ask how much the top leaders of that time received.
Stalin himself wore the same tunic, but that was an exception.

[Essex62]

It was such a chief that was, is and will be, unless he is, of course, a bump on timber rafting or a squad leader in defense. There is no warm office there, or there is no small house on the edge It is not robotization and technical progress that should change a person, but the realization driven by the proletarian dictatorship that it is impossible to row under oneself and consider that grandmother is power. Cut paper is just a necessary regulator, until the time of unlimited number of products and services, as a result of this tech. progress. He who does not work does not eat unless he is a child, disabled or on a well-deserved pension. What you are promoting is selfishness and the law of the jungle.
The IVS was building a new, unique, in the history of mankind, society and used all available, effective methods for its rapid construction. And he cleaned, cleaned from the hoard's eliment, uprooted the psychology of a private trader, a backer. And they did. It's a pity our not intelligent generation of niggas let go of the noose. It allowed to break what was obtained with such blood.

[businessv]

Quote: paul3390

Like - it is impossible for any cattle to rock the luxury yacht of the state?

They swing usually with one purpose - to turn over. Would you like to go back to the 90s, colleague? Or just don't know how you can change the government in another way? The oligarchs with their lackeys in power have already annoyed everyone and everyone, but this does not mean that you need to go to illegal rallies, it is enough just to come to the polls and vote, only now everyone will start talking about the fact that everything was decided in advance, and so on. ! Even in the Square they voted for whoever they wanted, despite the fact that the clown had no resource in power! There will be elections in the fall, so that's how to wander around the squares, you just need to go to them!

[paul3390]

come to the polls and vote

The Duma is an ugly parliament. It will only have a decisive voice in word, but in reality it will only have an advisory vote, for the upper chamber and the government, armed to the teeth, will stand over it as censors. The manifesto directly states that not a single resolution of the Duma can be implemented if it is not approved by the upper house and the tsar.
The Duma is not a people's parliament, it is the parliament of the enemies of the people, for the elections to the Duma will not be universal, nor equal, nor direct, nor secret.

I.V. Stalin


“Once every few years, deciding which member of the ruling class will suppress, crush the people in parliament is the real essence of bourgeois parliamentarism, not only in parliamentary-constitutional monarchies, but also in the most democratic republics.”

“… Real“ state ”work is done behind the scenes and is done by departments, offices, headquarters. They only talk in parliaments with the special purpose of fooling the "common people" "


“... Any state in which there is private ownership of land and the means of production, where capital reigns, no matter how democratic it may be, is a capitalist state, it is a machine in the hands of the capitalists to keep the working class and the poorest peasantry under control ... And universal suffrage, the Constituent Assembly, parliament are only a form, a kind of bill of exchange, which does not in the least change matters in essence "


VI Lenin

Well - and so on and so on ... Hoping for the best by participating in the current elections is like dreaming of finding a lamp with Khattabych ..

[businessv]

Quote: paul3390

Well - and so on and so on ... Hoping for the best by participating in the current elections is like dreaming of finding a lamp with Khattabych ..

So I wrote about it! Nobody goes to choose, and then resent the chosen ones! The Duma deals with laws and their adoption, so nothing can depend on it! At least start with this, it will be easier further.

[paul3390]

Who are you going to choose there? EP or LDPR? None of the nonesh kosher political parties represent the interests of the people. Others will not be admitted to the elections. And then what is the point of participating in this booth?

[businessv]

Quote: paul3390

Others will not be admitted to the elections. And then what is the point of participating in this booth?

When they are not allowed, then you can register meeting points in municipalities and take to the streets!

[Essex62]

This endless discussion "in a circle" about choices and choices "does not make any sense. The whole existence of mankind shows us that any changes in the existing systems occur by force, as a result of existing objective or random circumstances. Who staked out a sweet life, would never agree to change it for the worse. In this sense, socialism is the ideal form of human relations. But to achieve this, legislatively, will not work, the mentality's need to change.
And there are no real candidates - devotees in the current political field of Russia. All "parties" have occupied comfortable, warm niches and will be verbiage.

[businessv]

Quote: Essex62

Those who have staked out a sweet life for themselves will never agree to change it for a worse one. In this sense, socialism is the ideal form of human relations. But to achieve this, legally, it will not work, the mentality needs to be changed.

It's hard to disagree! Regarding the candidacies, it is also correct, there are no others, and those are far away ... sitting.

[loki565]

Yes, take at least a fake about Yanukovych's golden toilet)))

[Captain45]

Quote: loki565

Yes, take at least a fake about Yanukovych's golden toilet)))

Speaking of gold toilets, yesterday on TV (well, what can you do, I'm so retarded - I watch TV, unlike some very advanced ones) they showed a story about a golden toilet. It was actually made of gold by an Italian decorator (I did not remember his last name), named the creation "America" ​​and exhibited at the opening day in London and it (the toilet) could be used for its intended purpose. So there was a queue to go to "America". Then the masterpiece was transferred to the Guggenheim Museum in New York, and when Trump, being president, asked the museum for a Van Gogh painting to the Oval Office for show-off and beauty, he was offered to take a gold toilet bowl, but he refused. Apparently he sensed that they would push him out of the presidency, and then he would really, unlike Yanyk, be presented with a golden toilet bowl. Here he would not have gotten away

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Captain45

when Trump, being president, asked the museum for a Van Gogh painting in the Oval Office for show-off and beauty, he was offered to take a gold toilet

I have never understood such show-off ... The toilet bowl suits me quite well with faience. And Van Gogh ... At home there are two very high-quality reproductions on canvas (in any digital printing salon they are now slapped for 2-3 thousand) - and I am quite happy.

[Captain45]

Quote: Zoldat_A

I have never understood such show-off ... The toilet bowl suits me quite well with faience. And Van Gogh ..

Well, their rich, you will not understand ... And the toilet, no matter what it is, from my point of view, should be in a warm room. I, after living and working in the Arctic, know this for sure.

[Mini Mokik]

America, then what? (((He would have called the USA. And then America is big ...

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: OrangeBigg

And fairy tales about the palace are nothing more than an attempt to manipulate the public consciousness of Russians in order to add fuel to the fire.

Well, what can not normally refute? Whose palace? Why is the FSO guarding him? Why is there a useless zone? And there are a lot of questions. And the most important questions are not related to the palace. The main questions are the involvement of Putin and his entourage in the collapse of the USSR and the ways of his relatives and acquaintances obtaining their assets. And these questions are not raised, but they are carefully avoided.

[Roman123567]

Well, what can not normally refute? Whose palace? Why is the FSO guarding him? Why is there a useless zone?

Why is some girl, whose mother has made a career from a cleaning lady to an oligarch, like two peas in a pod looks like not Putin ..))

[alexmach]

The main questions are the involvement of Putin and his entourage in the collapse of the USSR

Are you crazy or what? Where in general and who was Putin in those days?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: alexmach

Are you crazy or what? Where in general and who was Putin in those days?

In the first 30 minutes of the video, this is exactly what he was and what he did. And V.V. Putin, as an honest man and head of state, is obliged to dispel all doubts, since he is the face of our state.

[Icarus]

as an honest person and head of state, he must dispel all doubts, since he is the face of our state

Completeness to you. Doubts can be dispelled in different ways. He said that there was no property there and that was all, and he was not going to prove anything. In fact, after a report in the media (and this is a video posted on the network) about the crime committed by the head of state, there are not enough explanations, but an investigation should be carried out in one form or another and in the manner prescribed by law (we do not have such a law, for example, on the appointment of a parliamentary commission or a special prosecutor). And if during the investigation the guilt of the head of state is not proved, there are grounds for initiating a case against the person who disseminated slander. In the meantime, there is no such investigation, all doubts are interpreted not in favor of the head of state, IMHO.

[alexmach]

In fact, after a report in the media (and this is a video posted on the network) about the crime committed by the head of state, there are not enough explanations, but an investigation should be conducted in one form or another and in order

In order to conduct an investigation, you actually need some kind of veil. What facts are there in that video?

[Icarus]

These are the facts to be established if bribery of the president is declared (preparation for bribery).

[alexmach]

You can say anything you want, and you don't need much intelligence for this. There are people who claim that they were abducted by aliens, someone starts an investigation according to their statements?
With people who claim that they are being poisoned by the special services with chemical warfare agents, things are about the same.

[Kisa]

Quote: Icarus

In the meantime, there is no such investigation

here is a question of faith - said Vova not mine and that's enough for patriots. but in that movie there even such a question was not raised whose palace legally ... would give an explanation for such a huckster hired by the FSB on the state budget ... more than 100 million views already ... the same Dimona's karma deteriorated after the kin with his participation
well, or a symbolic ruble was sued for libel ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: alexmach

Are you crazy or what? Where in general and who was Putin in those days?

I came from Germany.

[alexmach]

I came from Germany. laughing

not in a sealed carriage by accident?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: alexmach

not in a sealed carriage by accident?

No, we did not fight with them.

[Dart2027]

Quote: alexmach

Where in general and who was Putin in those days?

According to some, Putin is some kind of superman, with the abilities of Sauron.

[Cosm22]

These comrades cannot be understood.
They have one argument - and you will prove that this palace belongs to Putin!
True, several things remain incomprehensible.
What document exactly are these comrades eager to see?
Putin's personal order on official paper with an official stamp? Like, in Gelendzhik, I order to build a palace for me, indicating the number of rooms, their footage, layouts, breakdown of the surrounding area, etc.?
Or a certificate from the BTI stating that the palace belongs to V.V. and there are corresponding papers for this?
Or a similar certificate with a seal from the Presidential Administration or the Administrative Department of the President of the Russian Federation?
Or, in the opinion of the comrades, data on the ownership of the palace to the leader of Russia must be displayed on the website of the Federal Property Management Agency without fail?
Or will they only be satisfied with an official document stating that a specific amount of Roldugin's cellos was spent for the construction of this particular palace (we will not recall the rest now)?
It is curious, on what basis do these comrades consider all the stupidest themselves?

[Mordvin 3]

“Indeed, this is a large object, it is well known in Gelendzhik. And one or more [entrepreneurs] directly or indirectly own this object, ”said Peskov.

https://lenta.ru/news/2021/01/26/palazzo/?utm_campaign=breaking-news&utm_medium=browser-notification&utm_source=push-notification
Fresh "news".

[Icarus]

“Indeed, this is a large object, it is well known in Gelendzhik, and one or several businessmen directly or indirectly own this object. But you must agree that, probably, the Kremlin has no right to disclose the names of these owners, and we are not going to do this, it would simply be incorrect, "Peskov said.

I can't understand why several "businessmen" from different businesses should arrange a communal palace with outbuildings? And on what basis is the property of a "businessman" protected by state structures that do not have the right to conduct such activities? Does he hold people for idi_ots?

[Dart2027]

Quote: Cosm22

They have one argument - and you will prove that this palace belongs to Putin!

Does it belong or not?

[Jaromir]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Whose palace?

The link https://www.yuga.ru/news/219988/ contains an article from 2011. In it, the former co-owner of the "Novorossiysk Commercial Sea Port" Alexander Ponomarenko claims that this "palace" belongs to him.

[krops777]

Well, what can not normally refute? Whose palace?

And what should Putin refute? If Provalny has already undertaken, it is his prerogative to prove, to back it up with facts, but for now it's just nothing, so the collected video sequence of pictures under the correct speech of Sisyan.

Why is the FSO guarding him? Why is there a useless zone? ...

And who told you that the FSO was guarding him? again all the same. If he was really guarded by the FSO, Sisyan and his accomplices would have sat down, even at the stage of plans, or do you seriously think that amateurs work there.

The main questions are the involvement of Putin and his entourage in the collapse of the USSR and the ways of his relatives and acquaintances obtaining their assets.

Well, be a realist already, what Putin was at that time, a kid without family and tribe, and tomorrow Sisyan will tell you that he served in Kolchak's detachment and believe him not 67 but 127 years old.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: krops777

Well, be a realist already, what Putin was at that time, a kid without family and tribe,

Can you remember who carried the briefcase to the "perestroika" Sobchak? Can you remember what Sobchak's "portfolio porter" did?

Quote: krops777

And who told you that the FSO was guarding him? again all the same.

That is, "vyvsevrete"? Why then is Navalny not imprisoned for libel yet? Why didn't they start a case against him for this? "Not really a lie" comes out?

[krops777]

Can you remember who carried the briefcase to the "perestroika" Sobchak? Can you remember what Sobchak's "portfolio porter" did?

Even Sobchak has nothing to do with the collapse of the union, it was destroyed by the first persons of the USSR, those who were part of the Plenum of the Central Committee of the CPSU at the time of 1991. Well, and a control shot from the EBN in Belovezhskaya Pushcha.

Why then is Navalny not imprisoned for slander yet?

I am certainly not a lawyer, but in my opinion no one has ever been jailed for cartoons and fictional films.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: krops777

Even Sobchak has nothing to do with the collapse of the union,

Well, since Sobchak does not have, then Yeltsin does not. It itself)))).

Quote: krops777

Why then is Navalny not imprisoned for slander yet?


I am certainly not a lawyer, but in my opinion no one has ever been jailed for cartoons and fictional films.

This is called slander against the top officials of the state. And since the case was not started, it means "a stigma in the gun."

[victor50]

Quote: krops777

you seriously think that amateurs work there.

Well, well, I will not talk about the FSO, but the rest of the power failures are too much. Amicable to ridiculous. True, such fun makes you want to cry.

[krops777]

Well, well, I won't talk about the FSO

Even in the most seedy country, the security service for the first persons of the state is at a very high level, and even our FSO with a rich history with vast experience and legacy from the tsarist guard, the protection of the first persons of the USSR, and ending with today's best practices, is one of the best services in the world. There are plenty of examples in the public domain, which is why I do not believe that some frostbitten oppositionist dilettante filmed everything, showed everything and even filmed it from a quadrocopter.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: krops777

There are plenty of examples in the public domain, which is why I do not believe that some frostbitten oppositionist dilettante filmed everything, showed everything and even filmed it from a quadrocopter.

And I don't believe it, most likely someone just leaked information to him.

[victor50]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

And I don't believe it, most likely someone just leaked information to him.

How did this someone get it?

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: victor50

How did this someone get it?

Well, who in our country has access to such information?

[victor50]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Well, who in our country has access to such information?

Is there someone who should stop it? And how then did the impeccable FSO allow this? If it's there at all.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: victor50

And how then did the impeccable FSO allow this?

Wasn't it the FSO or what other special services leaked this information? In your opinion, this option is excluded? In my opinion there they had several suicides in the FSO recently. At least they wrote and talked about it.

[Stas157]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Well, what can not normally refute? Whose palace? Why is the FSO guarding him?

Putin said: - "Not mine." All. What more do you want? He's a gentleman who takes his word for it! At least, apparently so he thinks.

[lis-ik]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Well, what can not normally refute? Whose palace? Why is the FSO guarding him? Why is there a useless zone? And there are a lot of questions.

Most likely, this dacha is intended for the rest of a group of gentlemen, namely the president and friends, such a bachelor party.

[user1212]

Quote: lis-ik

Most likely, this dacha is intended for the rest of a group of gentlemen, namely the president and friends,

For this, Putin has, for example, the Konstantinovsky Palace. I will notice much cooler wretched shack in Gelendzhik

[D16]

Well, what can not normally refute? Whose palace?

No one will tell you whose palace this is. And I shouldn't speak. Formally, this is someone's property and information about the owners is probably confidential. By the way, the no-fly zone was installed there by the FSB, not the FSO. Unlike all presidential facilities in Russia. So I wouldn't be surprised if this is an FSB dacha, registered in the name of some Pound chairman.

[2 Level Advisor]

Perhaps I will tell you something new, but .. information about the owners of real estate - any, is not confidential and is obtained as an extract from the USRN in the Russian Federation, with the ability to make a request - in a day .. and if someone is hidden, then questions arise .. FSB, so you can say about it - FSB sanatoriums are not secret ..

[D16]

information about the owners of real estate - any, is not confidential and is obtained by an extract from the USRN in the Russian Federation, if you know how to make a request - in a day .. and if someone is hidden, this is where questions arise ..

From this extract you will get the name of the chairman of the Pound. Navalny found out, so what? You still won't recognize the real owners, and the Kremlin won't tell you. I repeat that the no-fly zone over the presidential facilities is controlled by the FSO, not the FSB.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Someone in the West already burns in one place as they want to make Nicholas II out of Putin, and out of present-day Russia the Russian Empire since its collapse.

Has our Kremlin been transported to the west long ago? In the morning it seemed to be on the spot ... And so ... A full copy, in terms of social and economic relations, from the very Republic of Ingushetia, is molded in the Kremlin. And the west has nothing to do with it.

[Plastmaster]

Quote: OrangeBigg

An attempt to set the country on fire.

Puchinegi will set themselves on fire. And if it is not ethical to name the owner of this house. How ethical is it to build this? Let's estimate what would have happened to this house after the Socialist Revolution of 17. Well, first of all, they would have plundered. This is no question. And in 3 years we would have made a "republic of SHKID". In another 5 years, they would make a sanatorium for children. This is all under Stalin, by the way.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Someone in the West already burns in one place as he wants to make Nicholas II out of Putin,

What does the west have to do with it? It's just that many fellow citizens, completely unreasonably, try in their imagination to make a scribe out of an ordinary club manager, forgetting that he is just a manager hired by the people.

[Anatoly 288]

Tell me, power, did the cops come from Mars? Or are they neighbors, friends, acquaintances? Society deserves its rulers, and who is not satisfied, look in the mirror, you have to start with yourself!

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Anatoly 288

and who is not satisfied, look in the mirror, you have to start with yourself!

And I, for example, started with myself long ago, now I would like our authorities to do the same. Since they love the Russian Orthodox Church so much, then let them begin with the observance of the commandments. In the Sermon on the Mount in the Gospel of Matthew, they are beautifully described.

[Anatoly 288]

Well done, honor and respect!

[Plastmaster]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

If they love the Russian Orthodox Church so much, then let them begin with the observance of the commandments. In the Sermon on the Mount in the Gospel of Matthew, they are beautifully described.

This is really harmful. All earthly troubles, global wars have gone from there.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Plastmaster

All earthly troubles, global wars went just from there.

If we dig deeper, then behind any of the "crusades" we will see someone's economic interests.

[Gardamir]

you have to start with yourself!

the same songs were sung in the late 80s

[sleeve]

And what is this Aqua disco then? And then all hands do not reach the movie.

[military_cat]

Nobody knows for sure. So far, people are trying to determine at the level of sensations what it is. But even their most timid attempts to get closer to the answer show that this is an abyss, into which it is better not to look:

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[sleeve]

... otherwise the aquadisco will look into you?

[Incvizitor]

Are people a couple percent anal? I don't give a damn about this palace, as it is obvious to most people, it is and is.

[military_cat]

You are so angry and insulting people because you don't have an aquadiskotheque.

[Incvizitor]

That you do not write specifically "a small number of people" because it turns out that "you" have no country in fact.

[loki565]

Well, at least they made free advertising for winemaking)))

Shares of "Abrau-Durso" jumped by 10% after Putin's words about interest in winemaking

[Vadim_888]

Not much, we only have our own moonshine recognized by men as a quality drink

[Zoldat_A]

Quote: Vadim_888

Not much, we only have our own moonshine recognized by men as a quality drink

It was always interesting - why is the moonshine necessarily muddy in the movies? How much moonshine in his life he saw (both good and bad), the father himself, for his own consumption, drove - he NEVER saw cloudy. Always transparent. And I have never seen transparent in the cinema ...

[Pilot]

Quote: Zoldat_A

It was always interesting - why is the moonshine in the cinema necessarily muddy? ...

Well, how else can the viewer show that this is not water or official vodka? Stick labels on bottles, like, Pervach Petrovich,?

[sleeve]

You understand the stereotypes ...

[Captain45]

Quote: Zoldat_A

It was always interesting - why is the moonshine necessarily muddy in the movies? How much moonshine in his life he saw (both good and bad), the father himself, for his own consumption, drove - he NEVER saw cloudy. Always transparent. And I have never seen transparent in the cinema ...

I would venture to suggest that such moonshine in the cinema is shown on the basis of the stories of the Nobel laureate in literature M. Sholokhov. in one of the "Don stories" there was a phrase (I quote from memory): "that is why from time immemorial, moonshine is driven on the Don, like the Don fog in the morning, and on the coat of arms of the Don Army there is a Cossack sitting on a barrel of wine with a telesh". Perhaps Sholokhov's authority in matters of the color of moonshine played a role in his portrayal in cinema.

[Antidote]

https://ru.investing.com/equities/abrau-durso-oao
both jumped and bounced.

[Svarog]

Quote: Volodin

Quote: Svarog

I watched the answers .. well, of course

Well, what a movie, such questions and answers ...

What's wrong with the movie? Yes, he is not surprising ... for me at least .. He only shows that we are constantly being lied to and the most unpleasant thing is that the first person is lying. But there were enough examples of lies without the film.

[Cosm22]

The movie is just fine.
At the moment, almost 91 million views with 4,1 million likes and 142 thousand dislikes.
Russians are Zelo actively interested in the personal life of their leader.

[krops777]

At the moment, almost 91 million views with 4,1 million likes and 142 thousand dislikes.
Russians are Zelo actively interested in the personal life of their leader.

Do not even hesitate, tomorrow there will be 140-160 million views, they will see a mustache, including babies, and even those who are still sitting in the womb will like it.

[sleeve]

Hmm. And it seemed to me that lies cannot be cured with lies ...

[Bar1]

It's easy for Putin to refute everything, but for some reason the people do not believe Putin, but Navalny, why would that be?
Probably because Putin's friends the oligarchs do not at all hide their luxury in which they spend their idleness, for example, yachts, are there such facts or not? Of course there is, and it looks especially striking in comparison with the Russian military fleet.
Usmanov's yacht, length 155m, while frigate 22350, for example, has only 136 meters.

Abramovich's yacht is 160 meters long.

Melnichenko's yacht costs only 27 billion rubles.

Rashnikov's yacht, even the name is disgusting Russian Victory, such as Russian victory, but in English.

there are many such yachts, much more than new ships from Russia.

[tralflot1832]

People live! Cool boats for fishing!

[Bar1]

Quote: tralflot1832

People live! Cool boats for fishing

Such yachts can be equipped with ANY weapons from torpedoes to Zircon missiles, and then Russia will have the largest fleet in the world.
By the way, can you name those who rob their country and leave their people beggars? These geeks have no conscience, which means they are NON-HUMAN.

[tralflot1832]

And send to chase aircraft carriers and at the same time solve the problem with target designation.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Bar1

By the way, can you name those who rob their country and leave their people beggars?

Here another question is already more important - can we call this state our state.

[Bar1]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Another question is already more important - can we call this state our state.

yes, we have already called this state the correct definition
-Russia - a colony of the west
-putin's government-colonial administration.

[Roman123567]

This is the state of Putin's mafia ..

[lis-ik]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

Quote: Bar1

By the way, can you name those who rob their country and leave their people beggars?

Here another question is already more important - can we call this state our state.

I decided for myself a long time ago and clearly divided. My homeland, their state and for them. The question is in which case, what and from whom to protect? I definitely don’t want these grabbers!

[Cron]

Quote: Bar1

It's easy for Putin to refute everything, but for some reason the people do not believe Putin, but Navalny, why would that be?

"People" is a stupid fact. Why? And therefore. Here are the people and that's it. The loudest shouting means people.
Well, the "people" at one time believed in Yanukovych's "golden toilet". What does this indicate? About the degradation of the population, or the skillful manipulation of a part of it?

[Bar1]

Quote: Cron

About the degradation of the population, or the skillful manipulation of a part of it?

what the people believe Navalny is the degradation of the population? But the people shouted: "Putin is a thief," so that everything is in order with the people, and not order with us with the authorities, which got drunk and cheated.

[Cron]

what the people believe Navalny is the degradation of the population?

Well, he cited in the same example the "golden toilet" in which they believed. And he asked is degradation, or manipulation? But no, you bustle again Navalny and write once they believe him - is this degradation? Why are you twisting all the time?
I’ll answer right away, if they believe everything he says, then of course this is degradation, and total.

But the people shouted: "Putin is a thief"

Who shouted? Where did you shout? And why is it all the people at once? And you mean that pitiful handful that you have collected, despite the "unparalleled" PR?
These are the "shame of garbage of Russia" shouted:

One kid was beaten for an alternative opinion, this is your "people". What should this be talking about ?:

[Bar1]

Quote: Cron

But no, you bustle again Navalny and write once they believe him - is this degradation? Why are you twisting all the time?

people went out to protests not FOR Putin, but AGAINST Putin, and this is your "twisting"? You are one of those looking, but does not see, who hears, but hears only his own.

Quote: Cron

Who shouted? Where did you shout?

you can calm down, for you "did not shout".

[Cron]

the people went out to protests not for Putin, but against Putin, and this is your "twisting"? You are one of those looking, but does not see, who hears, but hears only his own

Well, of course, where did you see the people there? A certain part of it came out, and for some reason it was not very significant. They came out with their demands, expressed their opinion, showed their dissatisfaction and they have every right to all this, well, if it is within the law, it's over. But nothing more, this is clearly not the kind of drama that you are trying to present

[Bar1]

Quote: Cron

They came out with their demands, expressed their opinion, showed their dissatisfaction and they have every right to all this, well, if it is within the law, it's over.

RIGHT is the power of those in power denounced in the law.
Lenin

so that type "according to the law" - you will not get rights.

and the "part" of the people, those who DO NOT HAVE for some reason were very dissatisfied with those who had palaces and armchairs for 600 thousand. Euro.

[Cron]

RIGHT is the power of those in power denounced in the law. Lenin

All is fair in the struggle for power. Lenin

A revolution is like a war in which all means are good, especially terror. Trotsky

Want to create a collection of quotes?

[Bar1]

Quote: Cron

Want to create a collection of quotes?

you are probably one of those, then he lives at the expense of others, so everything suits you, but there are people who are not satisfied with THIS LIFE during Putin's reign. This is called ANTAGONISTIC points of view and we personally will not come to an agreement with you.

[Cron]

Quote: Bar1

you are probably one of those, then he lives at the expense of others, so everything suits you

I, apparently, just one of those who at least sometimes uses the brain. He does not go to the square for some kind of association without reading a single page of the document, but tries to understand at least something to begin with.

but there are people who do not like THIS LIFE during Putin's reign.

Of course have. They are everywhere, 15% of them are always dissatisfied with something, so even a special reason is not needed. In our country, the more they are. and there are a lot of them, well, if you count them over their heads. There are tens of millions of them. Just what should this talk about?

[Roman123567]

but trying to understand at least something to begin with.

Nothing of the kind ..)) You just stubbornly, and you are not going to change your point of view for anything ..
I used to like Putin too in many ways .. and my opinion changed just on the basis of attempts to understand something ..

There are tens of millions of them. Just what should this talk about?

That only an insignificant part is able not to be a thoughtless crowd ..
And everyone else is ready to vote at least for Yeltsin, at least for Medvedev, at least for Putin ...

[Cron]

Quote: Roman123567

Nothing of the kind ..)) You just stubbornly, and you are not going to change your point of view for anything ..

And in what point of view could I rest if I had not expressed it at all?

I used to like Putin too in many ways .. and my opinion changed just on the basis of attempts to understand something ..

My congratulations to you for trying something there. Well done! Really handsome. That's just just for trying

[Roman123567]

And in what point of view could I rest if I had not expressed it at all?

But I (and I'm not alone) understood her perfectly ..

Well done! Really handsome.

I know..

[Cron]

Quote: Roman123567

But I (and I'm not alone) understood her perfectly ..

Well, you never know what you understood there. Someone realized yesterday that I generally sit on a salary.

[Roman123567]

Well, you never know what you understood there

Apparently, you are sitting here so that no one you have written will understand anything ..))

[Cron]

Quote: Roman123567

Apparently, you are sitting here so that no one you have written will understand anything ..))

Well, everyone is free to understand everything in their own way. And I just comment on what I want and how I want.

[Roman123567]

And I just read this, and I take note ..))

And if you write that you swam with Putin in the aquadiskotheque, and I say that I understood you .. it will be strange for me to answer with "you never know what I understood"

Shl .. well, you understand ..))

[Vadim237]

"About the fact that only an insignificant part is capable of not being a mindless crowd .." They are just a mindless herd of sheep and believe in any blizzard. In the next elections in 2024 we will vote for Mishustin as we know our own people as flaky, but yours are not.

[Stas157]

Quote: Vadim237

In the next election 2024 we will be for Mishustin vote

You are. Nominated by a LADY, you will vote for him too!

[Bar1]

Quote: Cron

Of course have. They are everywhere, 15% of them are always dissatisfied with something, so even a special reason is not needed.

Well, what else can you say?
Only to belittle the real state of affairs.
In Russia, the gap between the rich and the poor is the largest in the world. The oligarchs, Putin's friends, openly eat at the expense of the people and do not hide it. What do you think, everyone is blind and deaf like you?
-The country destroys THOUSANDS of small towns and villages. Is this or is it a lie?
-The country has a skewed national policy, when the titular nation -Ruskih were wiped out from governing the country, and Jews rule. Is there such a thing or not?
- Forests are cut down in the country for the profit of alligarchs. Is there such a fact or not?
-Rivers are shallow in the country. Last year they showed the Kuban river WITHOUT WATER. No, I didn't bother.
-We are told: Russia has the most powerful army ready to repulse NATO. But this is a LIE, because the most important production of computer technology in this Putin's Russia does not exist, and almost all electronics are imported. Therefore, if a war starts, it is a lost war. ...
Yes, it will not be - this war, after all, Russia is a colony of the West, capital is exported, grain is sold for cheap, and their people are fed with fodder grain like cattle.
Officials all live abroad, they come here to work, what kind of war?

[Cron]

Quote: Bar1

Quote: Cron

Of course have. They are everywhere, 15% of them are always dissatisfied with something, so even a special reason is not needed.

Well, what else can you say?
Only to belittle the real state of affairs.
In Russia, the gap between the rich and the poor is the largest in the world. The oligarchs, Putin's friends, openly eat at the expense of the people and do not hide it. What do you think, everyone is blind and deaf like you?
-The country destroys THOUSANDS of small towns and villages. Is this or is it a lie?
-The country has a skewed national policy, when the titular nation -Ruskih were wiped out from governing the country, and Jews rule. Is there such a thing or not?
- Forests are cut down in the country for the profit of alligarchs. Is there such a fact or not?
-Rivers are shallow in the country. Last year they showed the Kuban river WITHOUT WATER. No, I didn't bother.
-We are told: Russia has the most powerful army ready to repulse NATO. But this is a LIE, because the most important production of computer technology in this Putin's Russia does not exist, and almost all electronics are imported. Therefore, if a war starts, it is a lost war. ...
Yes, it will not be - this war, after all, Russia is a colony of the West, capital is exported, grain is sold for cheap, and their people are fed with fodder grain like cattle.
Officials all live abroad, they come here to work, what kind of war?

So you love to smear snot on the table and throw questions. Each of which requires large and detailed answers.
If you would have given it to me in 2013 in Ukraine, what was it supposed to mean? I had to immediately put a pot on my head and go to ride?
And I have only one question, where does Navalny have to do with all this?

[Bar1]

Quote: Cron

And I have only one question, where does Navalny have to do with all this?

you fell from the moon. Navalny has been talking about the theft of Zolotov, Dimon, Usmanov, Zhirinovsky and other bastards for MANY years. What is not clear?

[Cron]

Quote: Bar1

you fell from the moon. Navalny has been talking about the theft of Zolotov, Dimon, Usmanov, Zhirinovsky and other bastards for MANY years. What is not clear?

Well, he says, and what's next? What's next?
Is he really going to restore "thousands" of "destroyed" small towns?)) Or what?
Well, yes, well done, that does not allow those in power to sit in a warm bath, but no more.
Why should people suddenly take to the streets for Navalny?

[Bar1]

Quote: Cron

Why should people suddenly take to the streets for Navalny?

the have-nots are not satisfied with the state of affairs in Putin's Russia, so the people are protesting.

[Cron]

Quote: Bar1

the have-nots are not satisfied with the state of affairs in Putin's Russia, so the people are protesting.

Judging by the faces of the protesters, those who do not have to make claims to the mother with a folder, for not giving out pocket money))

[Bar1]

Quote: Cron

Judging by the faces of the protesters, those who do not have to make claims to the mother with a folder for not giving out pocket money)

read The Adventures of Buratino Tolstoy.
-... and where does this money come from?
- from thick wallets, boy.

[Igoresha]

which kind of hints at the correctness of Bar1. But the vile CIA officers could have photographed a collage to slander

[builder]

Bar1.
You have an interesting text. The questions seem to be correct, but the answers are according to the American training manual. Are you on a salary, or do you really think so?

[Bar1]

Quote: builder

The questions seem to be correct, but the answers are according to the American training manual

and bring this "American manual" let's see what it is.

[alekseykabanets]

Quote: Cron

Well, of course, where did you see the people there?

And for you only Kudrino-Chubais are the people? And the rest - byd-lo, whose opinion is not necessary to ask?

[krops777]

people went to protests not FOR Putin, but AGAINST Putin, and this is according to you

People? Really? Thousands of 10 all over the country, zero wholes and figs knows how many thousandths of a percent of this people, half of them paid for and the rest so gawk, then sit at home on the weekend. He asked about what the rally, no one really can say.

[Roman123567]

I'll answer right away if they believe everything that he says, then of course this is degradation, and total.

And if he is Putin ?? And they stopped believing him ..
So this is a step from degradation to sanity ..

[Cron]

Quote: Roman123567

And if he is Putin ?? And they stopped believing him ..

In general, nobody can be completely trusted. It is clear that you need to think critically.

So this is a step from degradation to sanity ..

Usually, all of these steps towards sanity, the usual roll from one degradation to another

[Roman123567]

In general, no one can be completely trusted.

Well, at least I agree with you on something.

[Roman123567]

Usually, all of these steps towards sanity, the usual roll from one degradation to another

Well, from Yeltsin to Putin, then to Medvedev, and again to Putin (building museums Yeltsin), I was not at all rolling ..
And the fact that all these are links of one degradation - everything is true here !!

[Cron]

Quote: Roman123567

Well, from Yeltsin to Putin, then to Medvedev, and again to Putin (building museums Yeltsin), I was not at all rolling ..
And the fact that all these are links of one degradation - everything is true here !!

Everything, calm down? Gave it out, so it did. It is immediately evident that a thinking person. I can't even believe that I myself have come to this. It really took a big attempt to understand all this. It is understandable why at first Putin was cute, and then suddenly not. I did some serious research.
And if you go on to understand? What will happen in the end? And if you get to the Young Reformers? Nemtsov and KO. KO and Nemtsov. They shout about KO from every iron. And Gaidars, and Chubais, and Yeltsins, but if you vilify power, then immediately a saint. But if you go to dig in earnest, and not just one and the same record you will twist, posing as your opinion? What will happen? Would you crawl into a corner and start crying that life isn't fair? That there is not only black, and only white? By killing a dragon, you yourself become a dragon.

You dig, dig. Maybe you dig up on Navalny and share with me. It is interesting to find out what kind of saints he belongs to.

[sleeve]

Really? That is, what do you like sanity, but not degradation? And what is so personal about Putin that you have everything to do with him? We are not talking about the system, about the economic model. In the end, about the real mood of the people. Putin, Putin, Putin. In terms of "citation" of references, it seems to me that he is in the lead thanks to "apazization" "The cat abandoned the kittens, it's Putin's fault." And this is Marvel's razvodilovo about the supervillain infuriates most of all. And the arguments are the same Marvel's, that is, none. Bestiality in relation to the country is the case of the Russian intelligentsia cattle, subject to a "flash mob" since the French Revolution. Alien, alien, but fashionable. That's the whole content of the protest - hatred of one person out of a sense of their own failure. You have to be wider, wider. Thinking about the whole country, browsing history, offering something positive and necessary to people not at their expense. That's what the people need. And that's why there will be a loss. Personal needs to be added. And by the way, the look will be cleared if the envy disappears.

[Wertgan]

The results of the referendum suggest otherwise. They believe him

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Bar1

But the people shouted

It's quite a disaster ...

[Cron]

Quote: Bar1

Probably because Putin's friends the oligarchs do not at all hide their luxury in which they spend their idleness, for example, yachts, are there such facts or not?

And what is Navalny going to do with them? Transplant? Take away? How do you imagine it?
For some reason this "people" of yours is honoring Hodor's utyrka. They do not like these "oligarchs", but the "people's" one is offended at once. So it's not the people, it's just some kind of internet misunderstanding

[Bar1]

Quote: Cron

And what is Navalny going to do with them? Transplant? Take away? How do you imagine it?

I think to shoot for this, as in the USSR: he stole 50 thousand-tower.

[Cron]

Quote: Bar1

I think to shoot for this, as in the USSR: he stole 50 thousand-tower.

Not everything was so rosy there, even under Stalin. When means when, and not Stalin, how it got to chew everything. Well, if without slogans.

[nsm1]

Nationalization absolutely is required.

[vitvit123]

Right !!! Take everything and share !!! ...

[Vadim237]

It is already impossible - since the owners have already changed several times and hundreds of thousands of shareholders have appeared, no one will sell the enterprise to the state, and the state itself has no extra money to buy all this and by force to take everything away, this is 100% blockage of the entire economy because the enterprises will stop and the customers will break the contracts, the shareholders will throw lawsuits like all other investors.

[nsm1]

Everything is nowhere easier - the courts do not accept claims for nationalization, shoot a couple of investors.
And of course - no compensation to the owners.
The people will approve with both hands.

[Roman123567]

the cost is only 27 billion rubles.

Well, if the retirement age is raised to 70 .. then why not ..))

[sleeve]

So they will raise it. The same Navalny. Or any other "militant liberal".

[common man]

Quote: Bar1

It's easy for Putin to refute everything, but for some reason the people do not believe Putin

How you love to speak for the whole people! They would say "part of the population", and then immediately the PEOPLE. You have to be more modest.
Yes, yachts are bigger than frigates. Yes, acquired in an unjust way. Yes, they steal.
Are you suggesting that everyone be imprisoned and shot at once? These oligarchs will buy you first in order to remove Putin and rule on even more lawless. By the way, why not suppose. that these stuffing is done at the request of one of the offended owners of these yachts?

[Bar1]

Quote: man in the street

These oligarchs will buy you first in order to remove Putin and continue to rule even more illegal

The basis of propaganda is to present black as white and vice versa. You can not try, I am not for sale.
You cannot serve the god mammon at the same time.
Christ.

[Bar1]

Quote: Bar1

You cannot serve the god mammon at the same time.
Christ.

as we do not love Christ, well, Christian values: do not acquire, not about this Russia.

[Bar1]

Quote: Bar1

Quote: man in the street

These oligarchs will buy you first in order to remove Putin and continue to rule even more illegal

The basis of propaganda is to present black as white and vice versa. You can not try, I am not for sale.
You cannot serve the god mammon at the same time.
Christ.

you cannot serve God and mammon at the same time.

[Wertgan]

Therefore, the church is separated from the state. Everything is logical.

[common man]

Quote: Bar1

You cannot serve God and mammon at the same time.

And who lights the thickest candles in our church? Entrepreneurs, including the owners of those yachts. And they are praying not so that the poor would become richer, but that they would not lose their (no matter which way) what they acquired.
PS I am not a militant atheist and I have nothing against the restoration of churches, including at the expense of the rich. You just don't need to idealize, neither the oligarchs, nor the religion.

[sleeve]

The boats are great. This is yes. It would be like that.

[Stas157]

Quote: Bar1

It's easy for Putin to refute everything, but the people for some reason do not believe Putin, but Navalny, why is that?

But really! Come out with documents and facts in hand, tell me whose palace. And that's it! But why doesn't he do it?

[Svarog]

Quote: Stas157

Quote: Bar1

It's easy for Putin to refute everything, but the people for some reason do not believe Putin, but Navalny, why is that?

But really! Come out with documents and facts in hand, tell me whose palace. And that's it! But why doesn't he do it?

Stas .... just for this reason ..

[Wertgan]

This is capitalism. There is nothing to be done. And who voted in support of Yeltsin's course at the time? The answer is that the people voted. What are the stupid questions to ask about yachts now ... They can buy such yachts, yes.

[user1212]

Let's say these yachts belong to the specified people (which I have never seen a proof of) Remind me which of them is a civil servant and which of the yachts was bought with budget money?
And then a strange picture turns out, in the country there is officially capitalism, for which, by the way, in the early 90s the people even climbed under the bullets, so they wanted, and now suddenly it is impossible. How does it work?
Under capitalism it will be this way and nothing else, whoever has the means of production lives as he wants, accumulating profit can buy yachts, and whoever has bread at the machine, it’s good if it is with butter. Where do you see a violation of any laws or principles?

[Bar1]

Quote: Svarog

I watched the answers .. well, of course, the student clearly read what he had written.

but you can not give a link?

[Cron]

Well, then I would answer who we still have so rich and whom the FSO and FSB are protecting.

And here is the factual approach. Especially about the FSO.
The FSB already asked about this in 2011. And why is it impossible to put an ordinary private security company there? And what exactly does the FSB need? What's the point of this?
And they are so tightly guarded that all sorts of drones can fly there.
"They raised it several times. - ©.
Yes Yes

[halpat]

I saw yesterday how VVP said about the palace that nothing belongs to him or his relatives. It is easy and pleasant to tell the truth. This is the case. De jure. 100% or even 200%.
But this is also evidenced by Navalny's film. Black and white. Designed for loyal people. Friends / colleagues are thrown off and so on.

It was unpleasant to see both.

The student Danila Chemezov asked the question. Same name? Or maybe the grandson of one of your best friends?
If he has the same name, then who allowed a student with such a name to ask such a question?
Made on purpose? Or frankly set up? Somehow I can't believe in chance

Navalny's film ... Fake? Lie in the style of Goebbels propaganda? Provocation?
Yes. It stinks a mile away, given the twisted life of a Berlin patient.
So it is necessary to directly show who owns this long-term construction.
Expose to the bones what is heaped up there. Give an assignment to journalists, lawyers ...
And it turns out somehow awkwardly.



Excuse me

[Bar1]

Quote: Halpat

The student Danila Chemezov asked the question. Same name? Or maybe the grandson of one of your best friends?

Yes? Even then, the screech came out, if so

[Andrew 40]

Putin's best response to theft is the adoption of a law on the absence of criminal responsibility for himself after the presidential term.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: Svarog

Well, then I would answer who we still have so rich and whom the FSO and FSB are protecting.

And the FSO and FSB should not protect the rich. Not any chops, tea. Those. this fact alone, already behind the eyes. Or state. the offices of kalymyat in black, like I got a pistol and spin as I can, for which the heads of the FSB and FSO must be removed. Or ... They again need to be removed, because they don't catch flies at all, but this time on the topic of officials' corruption.
And who exactly are they guarding ... The point is, in general, the tenth.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Quote: Svarog

Well, then I would answer who we still have so rich and whom the FSO and FSB are protecting.

Yes, that's something that is imperceptibly guarded. Postanov removed a cheap one. Try to launch a drone over the Kremlin Immediately feel the difference

[zenion]

As Kozma Prutkov said, there are people who do not understand, not because they do not understand, but only because it is not included in the circle of their concepts. About the FSB or someone there. Where did you see a construction site without security? What will happen to the construction site if it is not guarded? So you will be the first to run to pick nails.

[Wertgan]

What kind of infantilism is in your words? Any rich person who is able to buy a "roof" will be guarded by an appropriate structure. Matching its capabilities.

[user1212]

Quote: Svarog

whom the FSO and FSB are protecting

Does it guard? Are there any proofs?

[Flooding]

No, you can't figure it out without Navalny's help.
Rather, he would have already registered on VO.

[loki565]

No, you can't figure it out without Navalny's help.
Rather, he would have already registered on VO.

No thanks, there are a lot of his followers here)))

[Flooding]

Quote: loki565

No thanks, there are a lot of his followers here)))

Well, don't tell me. For me personally, such communication would give great pleasure.

[Vadim_888]

.
Well, don't tell me. For me personally, such communication would give great pleasure.

It won't work, they will be banned almost immediately, there is one with a rating for minus 20000

[paul3390]

Actually - I do not understand the essence of the problem. You just have to say WHAT this palace is. And why the hell is he protected by the FSB and a no-fly zone above him. What loot is built on. And that is all. Bulk knocked out. But for some reason - our guarantor stubbornly evades this simple step, instead demanding to take his word for it that the palace is not his, and not his CLOSE relatives .. Strange slip of the tongue. That is - perhaps the distant ones? Well - and what is the word of the author of the promises not to touch the constitution, not to increase the retirement age, to lead us to prosperity in 2020, etc., etc. - we all know very well .. We studied it in 20 years ..

[Pereira]

Putin has nothing to do with it. Nobody's palace. Whoever comes in will be.

[Bar1]

Quote: Pereira

Putin has nothing to do with it. Nobody's palace. Whoever comes in will be.

if you shoot the guards, and this is ALL of the FSB.

[Vadim237]

They showed you the documents or maybe they showed them in the film - if not, there is no court.

[Quadro]

Tell you everything and show me, are you taking on a lot? I keep in touch - in this villa in general it may not live on a permanent basis, it may well be a residence for meetings and other matters. And why shouldn't the president have a villa? Envy? Do you want to live in a cardboard box? There is a skyscraper at the Trump and nothing, but here they whine, I see there is no sight.

[Vadim_888]

... Trump has his skyscraper

Trump had it before the presidency

[paul3390]

You see, what a crap - the new government has one, but insoluble problem, the people of Russia still have a very weighty standard for comparison. And nothing can be done about it ..

[nsm1]

And the dachas of the nomenclature in a later period are usually a wooden house on 2 floors of 150-170 sq. meters.
This is at the top leadership of the USSR.
No fur stores, huge palaces, etc.

[paul3390]

When you remember how we yelled in the 80s against the type of privileges of the nomenklatura, it becomes so embarrassing, right up to tears .. Well, they were holy people, ascetics-ascetics, ideological beggars and unmercenaries .. Compared with the current Putin guard ..

[VORON538]

That is, you admit that you supported those liars who led the USSR to the slaughter! Masterpiece! However, the mistakes of your youth did not teach you anything, again you found yourself a louse and a fighter in the form of a deer

[paul3390]

What does it mean - supported? I listened as I do now. It's not a sin to listen. But forgive me - you seriously interpret that noneshnaya power is sinless and does not steal wildly ???

[VORON538]

When you remember how we screamed against the type in the 80s(C)
paul3390
As you listened aloud, if you yelled "against", and other slogans of those years are probably not alien to you, as you can see, and still.

[paul3390]

And you - as I understand it, loyal moods are not alien to you? When is the main parameter of loyalty to lick the boss? There were a lot of you like that in those days, and there are many of you today too ..

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: nsm1

No fur stores, huge palaces, etc.

Right now, to Leonid Ilyich aquadiskothek. Or at least a backlit fountain. And then he only had two Czechoslovak chandeliers in the country.

[Pilot]

Quote: Quadro

Tell you everything and show me, are you taking on a lot? I keep in touch - in this villa in general it may not live on a permanent basis, it may well be a residence for meetings and other matters. And why shouldn't the president have a villa? Envy? Do you want to live in a cardboard box? There is a skyscraper at the Trump and nothing, but here they whine, I see there is no sight.

1. Putin is a civil servant and his salary does not allow him to accumulate 100 lard for such a shed and he cannot be engaged in business .. This is the question whether he can own a villa or not.
2. If this is a residence, then according to the docks it should be properly decorated, but in the answers there is silence on this score, like not mine and that's it. But the special communication and security are clearly Nechopov, and even with a no-fly zone, they correspond to the residence and this cannot be dismissed, and all this service is for the state. invoice (or black cash in envelopes ??).
3. Trump before the presidency was a big businessman and then got a skyscraper.

[Konnick]

There, under the mountain beach, it was squeezed out under the palace. Who is interested in such a thing under our legislation? And they built a small port. And you can't build up there - the coastal zone. A private person cannot do this if this private person, of course, is not Putin. When I was vacationing in Praskoveevka, then many hikers passed along this beach, there was an official route from Krinitsa to Dzhanhot, now there are barbed wire and fsooshniki on both sides. Everything for the people

[Bar1]

Quote: Quadro

And why shouldn't the president have a villa?

probably because between the poor and the rich in Russia is the BIGGEST abyss.

[Ka-52]

probably because between the poor and the rich in Russia the BIGGEST abyss.

return to reality from your alternate universe. Capitalism at its core brings about inequality between rich and poor. Or is the property difference between the Rothschilds and the blacks in the ghetto smaller in the United States?

[Bar1]

Quote: Ka-52

Capitalism at its core brings about inequality between rich and poor

Why then wonder why the people go out to protest against Putin?

Quote: Ka-52

Or in the United States between the Rothschilds and blacks in the ghetto the property difference is less

blacks in the USA live much better than people in Russia, they receive benefits and do not work. Pensions in the USA and Russia are not comparable at all, and even the pensions of Russia and the Baltics are NOT comparable, although the Baltics do not have natural resources. And our oligarchs, I think, are NOT POORER than the same Rothschild, they only change yachts one after another, and some generally collect yachts. And this is Putin's order.
And Putin himself is the "poorest and most unfortunate", just a galley slave, in his words.

[Ka-52]

Why then wonder why the people go out to protest against Putin?

that is, it is not the system that allows the exploitation of man by man to blame, but Putin? Something I did not see in Marx and in Nigeria, too, Putin?
by the way, I have not seen protests poor population. I saw crowds of teenagers with iPhones in their hands.

blacks in the usa live much better than people in Russia, receive benefits and do not work

do not disgrace yourself with such ratings. What do you mean better? What can they afford? Your argument from the manual breaks down on one single fact - most of your happy blacks cannot afford any kind of medical insurance. From the word at all.

And our alligarchs, I think, are NOT poorer than the same Rothschild, they only change yachts one after another, and some of them collect yachts. And this is Putin's order.

without justifying Putin for reference: in general, the oligarchy in Russia gave rise to Yeltsin's rule. And most of the macro capital was formed at that time. Although to whom I am writing this, you are on an armored car ...

[Bar1]

Putin is of course white and fluffy, 30 years in power, and he certainly does not prichem.Sistema in itself, and Putin by itself.

Ollifrenat was spawned by the Yeltsin government, the country was ruined by Gorbachev, theft came from Brezhnev, voluntarism from Nikita, and repression from Stalin.

[Ka-52]

Putin is of course white and fluffy, 30 years in power and he certainly has nothing to do with it. The system itself, and Putin itself

this is your statement, not mine.

Ollifrenat was spawned by the Yeltsin government, the country was ruined by Gorbachev, theft came from Brezhnev, voluntarism from Nikita, and repression from Stalin.

ollyphrenate?

[Bar1]

Quote: Ka-52

ollyphrenate?

oligorphrenate, sorry.

[Ka-52]

And our alligarchs, I think, are NOT poorer than the same Rothschild, they only change yachts one after another, and some of them collect yachts.

By the way, our oligarchs are just puppies compared to the American ones. Ours can afford to buy a football club or a yacht, while the Americans can afford to destroy such a state as Iraq. Or Libya (well, it's already the French have tried for the sake of their Total). So that's it

[Pilot]

Quote: Ka-52

return to reality from your alternate universe. Capitalism at its core brings about inequality between rich and poor. Or is the property difference between the Rothschilds and the blacks in the ghetto smaller in the United States?

Don't you understand that people's souls do not accept this capsvinism, people were not asked through a referendum for capitalism, the upper crooks arbitrarily dragged them into this swamp. So it seems that the apologists of this disgrace will have to return to reality, and leave the examples from the striped bucket to yourself!

[Ka-52]

Don't you understand that people's souls do not accept this capsvinism, people were not asked through a referendum, the upper crooks arbitrarily dragged them into this swamp. So it seems that the apologists of this disgrace will have to return to reality, and leave the examples from the striped bucket to yourself!

why are you smart in hindsight ??? Why did you and others like you applaud Gorbachev in 1985 for destroying the socialist economy? And then they applauded Yeltsin, who finally turned it into ruins and sold it for a pittance ??? Why are you raging now when the bottom is hot? Don't want inequality? But he is fucking capitalism, not just - slurp it enough. Or did you then think that everyone would suddenly become rich? Horseradish! Capitalism allows only exploiters to be rich.

[Roman123567]

And why shouldn't the president have a villa? Envy? Do you want to live in a cardboard box?

He has a bunch of residence and office apartments .. cars, clothes, food, and even on toilet paper has not been spent for 20 years .. While receiving a million-dollar salary .. Read how much it costs people a year !!
And after that, he steals from the same people, and you shout - why not ..
This country is really sick .. ((

[Ka-52]

Actually - I do not understand the essence of the problem. You just need to say WHAT this palace is. And why the hell is he protected by the FSB and a no-fly zone above him. What loot is built on.

that's the question of the millennium. Even if this is Putin's palace, what is so surprising about it? Putin is the hidden beneficiary of the largest Russian companies like Gazprom. And most likely he is one of the richest people. And why run, break spears, with this palace, is it not clear? Maybe this palace was taken away from Putin by his wife after the divorce? Here is the former shoe Abramovich for 70 billion rubles

[Bar1]

Quote: Ka-52

Putin is the hidden beneficiary of the largest Russian companies like Gazprom.

under the law of the Russian Federation, a government official CANNOT be the owner of private and state companies. The president's salary is NOT COMPARABLE with the cost of this palace. Therefore, the definition under which such acts fall is called CORRUPTION.

[Bar1]

Quote: Ka-52

the palace may belong to him (even if he is registered to another person)

It is very easy to trace the owner of the accounts, which is what Navalny is doing. And besides, such an order when funding comes from persons with unknown funds is a CRIMINAL order of doing business. Such order must be broken, but under Putin, that order is maintained.

[Ka-52]

what is Navalny doing

this is the one who survived after being poisoned with combat poison, and then why did he live on the money of a European country? Independent dissident say?

[Bar1]

Quote: Ka-52

this is the one who survived after being poisoned with combat poison, and then why did he live on the money of a European country? Independent dissident say?

Bulk is not a disembodied angel, but Putin is even worse.

[Ka-52]

Bulk is not a disembodied angel, but Putin is even worse.

I don't care. What are you whining to me here? I wasn't going to discuss good or bad Putin at all. Go through the forest. Look where the conversation started and don't massage my brain with Putin's characteristics. Go to the rally and speak there.

[Bar1]

Quote: Ka-52

I don't care. What are you whining to me here? I wasn't going to discuss good or bad Putin at all. Go through the forest. Look where the conversation started and don't massage my brain with Putin's characteristics. Go to the rally and speak there.

hysteria rolled? This is the logical outcome of the discussion about good and evil, and it should be so.

[Ka-52]

hysteria rolled? This is the logical outcome of the discussion about good and evil, and it should be so.

there was no discussion. There was no dispute about good and evil. There was my commentary assumption about the ownership of this cottage. And then came your slogans and revolutionary cries that have little to do with my words. And in general, they have little to do with intelligible speech

[Bar1]

Quote: Ka-52

there was no discussion. There was no dispute about good and evil. There was my commentary assumption about the ownership of this cottage. And then came your slogans and revolutionary cries that have little to do with my words.

God asked
-How many righteous people should remain in the city of Sodom, so as not to burn the city?
-At least 10 righteous.
But in THIS city there are no longer even 10 righteous.

[vitvit123]

If it is very simple to track the owner of the account, then you will probably tell us the whole truth about the theft without any problems ... who will you start with? Whose account owner will you track?

[Bar1]

Quote: vitvit123

If it is very simple to track the owner of the account, then you will probably tell us the whole truth about the theft without any problems ... who will you start with? Whose account owner will you track?

Look at Navalny, he tells everything.

[vitvit123]

I don't listen to scoundrels and try not to look ... I'll listen to you .. whose account will you track? Please name and when will you show the information?

[Roman123567]

and what prevents him from doing this through proxies?

In our country, where Putin's corruption is everywhere, nothing prevents him from doing it .. He can pour slop into anyone's ears ..
It is for this that he must be judged !!

Head of Samsung jailed for 2,5 years for bribing girlfriend of ex-head of South Korea
With the help of money, he tried to get the post of the head of the company.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Ka-52

And I personally am not surprised by this. Why - I wrote.

And that doesn't make you feel emotional. Do not care. So get a minus. Do you write from Israel?

[Roman123567]

Putin is the hidden beneficiary of the largest Russian companies like Gazprom.

Even if this is Putin's palace, what is so surprising about it?

This is not surprising for Russia ..
In the civilized world, of course, everything is different ..

Supreme Court upholds 22-year sentence for former South Korean president
The South Korean Supreme Court has put an end to Park Geun-hye's trial, which has lasted since 2017.

[Ka-52]

This is not surprising for Russia ..
In the civilized world, of course, everything is different ..

yeah, US presidents are the poorest people also write that the war in Iraq began precisely because of Powell's test tube with anthrax and there was nothing to do with oil

[Lech from Android.]

There are many questions to Navalny ... when he pours out his alleged compromising evidence, he does not confirm it with reliable documents ... therefore, he has no faith in principle.
The Charite clinic where Navalny was placed looks more like an unofficial office of the special services ... there they pumped Navalny with this very allegedly compromising evidence ... a lot of strange things happen there.
An attempt to carry out another revolution on January 23 failed miserably ... but I think this is just a prelude to the elections to the State Duma ... there will be a number of actions ahead by the opposition and its sponsors from the West.
I wonder what they will come up with this time.

[nsm1]

Quote: Lech from Android.

The Charite clinic where Navalny was placed looks more like an unofficial secret service office

It's too huge for an office.

[nsm1]

Does this mean that Putin manages to build huge sports facilities faster than a villa by the sea? Kind of weird…

This is just nothing strange!
A well-known Russian habit - many years of "repairs", perestroika, etc. etc.
I read - in America, our oligarch was sued for the fact that the builders worked for years in his apartment and disturbed neighbors with noise.
He himself obviously did not live there.
But "brought to mind" type.

[tasha]

"Nothing that is indicated there as my property, neither me, nor my close relatives belongs and never did," the Russian president said.
Unfortunately, this is not the answer. What kind of structure is it then, does it exist at all and to whom does it belong?

[Pereira]

Owned property.

[Stirbjorn]

So, such palaces directly belong to few people. All this must be indicated in the tax return. And so the question immediately arises from the public - "Whose work is the palace for?"

[Pilat2009]

Quote: tasha

"Nothing that is indicated there as my property, neither me, nor my close relatives belongs and never did," the Russian president said.
Unfortunately, this is not the answer. What kind of structure is it then, does it exist at all and to whom does it belong?

It can generally be recorded on the left face.

[Quadro]

Do you believe in Navalny's word? And yes, any of the fighters knows what secrecy is? Can I still divulge all the secrets? And then the students de demand

[tasha]

Didn't understand the essence of your comment. He's somehow ill-considered.

[Vadim_888]

A secret that is perfectly visible from satellites? Added to epl maps?
It is rather a target for a rocket in case of something

[Roman123567]

And yes, any of the fighters knows what secrecy is?

Of course..
Secrecy in our country is this:

[Roman123567]

Nothing that is indicated there as my property, neither me nor my close relatives belongs and never did "

No, well, if, suppose, it will be recorded on the next larva by the type of cabaeva / bow-legged .. then he seems to have not lied ..))

[Vladimir1155]

I am not very interested in how big the "president's palace" is and whether it is his palace at all. I am worried that Russia is an American colony, taxing its business and exporting billions of funds abroad both through the so-called "sovereign" funds and through offshore companies at the behest of the IMF. All this confusion with palaces and rallies is designed to distract the electorate from the pressing issue ... Why are the Russian government and the central bank destroying the economy with exorbitant taxes and withdrawing funds abroad?

[Lech from Android.]

All this confusion with palaces and rallies is designed to distract the electorate from the pressing issue ...

Why are the leaders of Western states so actively involved in this confusion? ... after all, they, as if on command, after Navalny's arrest, started talking about sanctions against Russia ... it is illogical how it turns out.

[Vladimir1155]

Quote: Lech from Android.

talked about sanctions against Russia

if a performance is being done, it is done carefully, for 4 hours there are Russian authorities demonstratively arresting Navalny, as well as foreign partners, loudly indignant, and the bulk arriving for arrest ... all the roles are painted as in the performance ... and you are not interested in the fact that several billion dollars are withdrawn from the Russian Federation every day for 30 years, are you not interested in the existence of a budget rule? so the play was written by talented directors and it was a success, you ate it .. as well as thousands who are ready to go out and shout there, but are not able to nominate a patriotic president for elections ... or at least raise questions about the daily robbery of their country. ... you can hook them for envy of a certain owner of the palace, but how can they put serious questions in the bushes ... when both the media and the authorities (allegedly forbidding them with a sly sly) and the "opposition" and the West call on them to go to the rally, but how serious cowardly .... every nation is worthy of the power that it has. sad in this world gentlemen

[Lech from Android.]

but you are not interested in the fact that several billion dollars are withdrawn from the Russian Federation every day for 30 years

For me, this is not news since the 90s ... the only question is how much is displayed for a certain period of time ... with this it is still unclear.

[nsm1]

I agree.
Navalny is not an opposition, he is an accomplice of the authorities, a means of redirecting popular discontent into the channel of "laws", "rights", complaints ...
In a direction that is familiar to the authorities and safe for them.

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: vladimir1155

Why are the Russian government and the central bank destroying the economy with exorbitant taxes and withdrawing funds abroad?

So that you can live in such palaces, with 700 euros for each toilet - or do you think they are idealistic, silver-minded ?!

[Vladimir1155]

then you need to look at the root and understand that the matter is not so much in the palace as in the power for the sake of profit destroying their country and to suppress the budget rule, to demand an anti-offshore law

[Cron]

Quote: vladimir1155

I am worried that Russia is an American colony, taxing its business and exporting billions of funds abroad both through the so-called "sovereign" funds and through offshore companies at the behest of the IMF.

This is called capital outflow in a market economy. Well, if you sit down, drink Corvalol and calm down

[Vladimir1155]

Quote: Cron

capital outflow in a market economy

as you were taught, and you believed, you need to remove the noodles from your ears, you need to be able to recognize lies from the truth, be more critical of what you hear ... ... in a free market economy, there should be no capital outflow ... but if the government deliberately overstates taxes, then as a result not of a market economy, but as a result of overstatement of taxes, capital escapes, but if the government introduces a budgetary rule, then it has nothing to do with the market, but simply the withdrawal of oil and gas revenues of the Russian Federation in favor of Western partners (robbery is not a theft, but just a carve-up?) as directed by the Russian government received from the IMF.

[Cron]

as you were taught, and you believed, you need to remove noodles from your ears, you need to be able to recognize lies from the truth, be more critical of what you hear,

Dear, no one taught me this, I myself reached everything.

. in a free market economy there should be no capital outflow ...

What do you mean shouldn't? What is this nonsense? Capital is always looking for where it is most comfortable.

but if the government deliberately increases taxes, then capital flees as a result not of a market economy, but as a result of tax increases,

This is already a substantive conversation. There are, of course, reasons why this happens. And these reasons are within us, for the most part.
And I’m not so stupid as not to realize that this outflow includes, among other things, acquired by back-breaking labor, which just needs to be hidden in offshore.

but simply the seizure of oil and gas revenues of the Russian Federation in favor of Western partners (robbery is not theft, but just a carve-up?) on the instructions of the Russian government received from the IMF.

Well, you probably have some secret information on instructions from the IMF, I have no such information).
The seizure took place in the 90s, on a fairly large scale. Now, if there is anything, you probably mean those who have their share in various companies, but this is completely different.
You mentioned the budget rule correctly, see this information. The state sets a certain price, for example, per barrel, allowing the company to cover production costs and earn money. Everything else provides for the accumulation in reserves, if we assume the price is set at $ 40, then everything above goes to the state

[Vladimir1155]

Quote: Cron

the price was set at $ 40, then everything above goes to the state

exactly the opposite, it does not go to the state, but will fall under reorganization, that is, a ban on using it for the benefit of the country ..... a ban on the government or domestic entrepreneurs ... all this money goes to a special fund and is placed in the US and the EU until the end of the century.

[Cron]

Quote: vladimir1155

exactly the opposite, it does not go to the state, but will fall under reorganization, that is, a ban on using it for the benefit of the country ..... a ban on the government or domestic entrepreneurs ... all this money goes to a special fund and is placed in the US and the EU until the end of the century.

Again, you are carrying on some kind of nonsense, everyone is trying to look for something that does not exist. So the reptilians are not far away. Where can you find this prohibition? Yes, there is some kind of limitation, I'm too lazy to look now, otherwise, in my opinion, it can be spent above this.
I also disagree with this and consider such a policy to be outright sabotage, and that it would be possible to let some of it into the economy, but I think so from the couch.

Again, about the ban, our gold reserves during the crisis caused by the imposition of sanctions, starting in 2013, sank from 500, in my opinion, to 350 billion, since it was necessary to patch holes. Now they have increased again.

all this money goes to a special fund and is placed in the US and the EU until the end of the century

For all this, you do not need a special fund and put on a show with gold reserves. There would be an opportunity, Russia would simply be robbed, and no one would ask any people there.

[Vladimir1155]

Quote: Cron

Now they have increased again.

is there no crisis now? and the retirement age was raised from a good life ..... The budget rule provides for the accumulation of additional budget revenues from the sale of oil in reserves when its cost is higher than the cut-off price set in the budget (in 2020 it is $ 42,4 per barrel), .... .. "The point of the fiscal rule is not to waste oil and gas revenues." Siluanov Reserve funds are placed exclusively in foreign assets ... (In Russia, when the Stabilization Fund was created, a situation developed when the fund's profitability turned out to be significantly lower than the cost of servicing the country's external debt. This, at first glance, paradoxical situation is explained by the following. -first, not all countries were able to agree on early repayment of external debt (for example, Germany technically could not do this, since bonds were issued for the external debt of the Russian Federation, which had many owners).

[Cron]

Quote: vladimir1155

Quote: Cron

Now they have increased again.

is there no crisis now? and the retirement age was raised from a good life ..... The budget rule provides for the accumulation of additional budget revenues from the sale of oil in reserves when its cost is higher than the cut-off price set in the budget (in 2020 it is $ 42,4 per barrel), .... .. "The point of the fiscal rule is not to waste oil and gas revenues." Siluanov Reserve funds are placed exclusively in foreign assets ... (In Russia, when the Stabilization Fund was created, a situation developed when the fund's profitability turned out to be significantly lower than the cost of servicing the country's external debt. This, at first glance, paradoxical situation is explained by the following. -first, not all countries were able to agree on early repayment of external debt (for example, Germany technically could not do this, since bonds were issued for the external debt of the Russian Federation, which had many owners).

Where did I write that there is no crisis? Or something similar? He simply wrote that during the period when this money was needed, it was used. You wrote this about some kind of mythical prohibition on use:

a ban to the government or domestic entrepreneurs ... all this money goes into a special fund and is placed in the US and the EU until the end of the century.

And now you are trying to jump somewhere. So they would write that these funds are spent ineffectively, that the government is engaged in open sabotage borrowing at high interest rates, and investing gold reserves at low rates. Now this is a subject for conversation. This needs to be checked, counted, and so on. To be honest, I have not studied or studied this.

[Vladimir1155]

Quote: Cron

So they would write that these funds are spent ineffectively, that the government is engaged in open sabotage borrowing at high interest rates, and investing gold reserves at low rates.

right, just why does it do it and in whose interests?

[Vladimir1155]

Quote: Cron

And these reasons are within us, for the most part.

well, exactly what is not in me, it was not me who established such a level of taxes and levies (115 percent), I am a supporter of their total abolition and replacement by a doubling of the severance tax and a turnover tax of 3 percent .. then the capital will run to the Russian Federation

[Mavrikiy]

Polish observer Marek Budzisch, meanwhile, believes that Navalny "was able to expose Putin."

Mareks always have woodlice in their heads.

In the British press, as always, there is unanimity in relation to the Russian Federation. The authors call for the imposition of sanctions against the president, punishing Navalny's arrest.

Exactly. And we will impose sanctions against the queen's ikhai, for her media, let them humble themselves.

[Pereira]

The main thing is not to forget to inform the Queen about the imposed sanctions. Otherwise, he will die of old age and never know.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: Pereira

The main thing is not to forget to inform the Queen about the imposed sanctions. Otherwise, he will die of old age and never know.

Don't worry, it will know in 5 seconds, or even before signing.
Sanctions not only aim at deprivation of opportunities, but also deprivation of status ... which is offensive to the Queen.

[Pereira]

insulting to the queen.

Who can offend the Queen of England? A native king?
Do you know that she gave Siberia into the possession of some clown?
The fact that he will not go to Siberia is understandable. Although who knows, who knows.
The important thing is that she considers herself entitled to do this. Siberia gave it today. This is already a precedent. Tomorrow the Ural will give it.
And what are these Asian sanctions to her? If she did, she would laugh at breakfast.

[paul3390]

Do you know that she gave Siberia into the possession of some clown?

If our leadership had Faberge - in response to this impudent trick, they would appoint, say, the Governor-General of Scotland .. Or the Procurator of Wales ..

[Vadim_888]

Just offset

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Mavrikiy

And we will impose sanctions against the queen's ikhai, for her media, let them humble themselves.

Sadist You are my friend. "Kandraty" will visit Granny at once, and Britain will remain without a mother and without a father.

[Horon]

Granny will survive all of us!

[sniperino]

Quote: Mavrikiy

we will impose sanctions on the queen

Sanctions - it will not be enough: to open a criminal case, collect all the nasty things of an Englishwoman during her reign, hold a public trial with a free lawyer and sentence in absentia to life in prison.

[Pereira]

She will die laughing.

[sniperino]

Quote: Pereira

She will die laughing.

It's not bad too.

[Stirbjorn]

"Putin's construction of his palace on the Black Sea coast for 15 years." Italian readers note that Putin "built a bridge to Crimea in 3 years", stadiums for the 2018 FIFA World Cup and facilities for the Sochi Olympics in 5-7 years.

So there is not one palace, but a whole complex with an underground hockey rink, vineyards, wineries, an oyster farm, and so on.
The stadium in St. Petersburg was built for 11 years, since 2007

I will say with the phrase of a famous character from the classics "Boring, girls ..." If only they came up with something else.

It happened before

[tralflot1832]

I can imagine how much a refrigeration driver at this underground hockey rink gets a day. I ought to send a questionnaire, I just wanted money!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tralflot1832

I can imagine how much a refrigeration driver at this underground hockey rink gets a day. I ought to send a questionnaire, I just wanted money!

The driver does not pull, only a refmechanic, and with a higher education or from KTI or KVIMU.

[tralflot1832]

The mechanic is in charge of the service, and the refmachinists work.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tralflot1832

The mechanic is in charge of the service, and the refmachinists work.

Managers will lead, and mechanics will work. And the refresher drivers will be assigned to paint and wash the equipment.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tralflot1832

The mechanic is in charge of the service, and the refmachinists work.

I really don't know how you are in the trawl fleet now, but I remember when there were 3 refmechanics and three refmechanics on the floating bases and transports, then they made one mechanic and two machinists. Well, when I went under the flag, there was one refmechanic, and also one electromech. At the DCK, it is true, as my classmates say, everything remained as in the Soviet Union.

[tralflot1832]

It all depends on the refrigerating capacity of the installation, hence the state. There is only one refrigeration technician on transports. There are refrigerators at Olymp facilities, three days later they work. There are no managers, there’s a mess!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tralflot1832

Managers unas no, disorder!

As soon as the managers appear, the fleet will immediately cease to exist.

[sniperino]

Quote: Stirbjorn

So there is not one palace, but a whole complex

Misery: there is not even a golden toilet. Would you build yourself a palace at the scene of state crimes, or where the beneficiaries of your criminal actions rule?

[Stirbjorn]

Quote: sniperino

Would you build yourself a palace at the scene of state crimes, or where the beneficiaries of your criminal actions rule?

I don't commit crimes, so the question is at the wrong place

[sniperino]

Quote: Stirbjorn

I don't commit crimes, so the question is at the wrong place

Such an excuse. I didn't expect anything else.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Stirbjorn

I don't commit crimes, so the question is at the wrong place

Nobody can excuse himself "from a bag and a prison". What a score.

[prior]

Navalny, how not to treat him, quite convincingly indicated the owner of the palace.
And here are the answers - a kindergarten, a nursery group.
I didn't take it, it's not me, whose I don't know .......

[vvvjak]

Quote: prior

Navalny, how not to treat him, quite convincingly indicated the owner of the palace.

About 7 years ago, one friend of the foreman claimed that he had participated in the construction of a racing track at Putin's dacha Valdai. Moreover, Kabaeva commanded everyone, but he did not see Putin at all. He even claimed that they had two children together - boys (the track was being built for them). What are very similar stories, don't you think?

[prior]

I find that there is Valdai, there is Zavidovo, there is the Konstantinovsky Palace ... and there are many other things that we do not know about.

[vvvjak]

Quote: prior

I find that there is Valdai, there is Zavidovo, there is the Konstantinovsky Palace ... and there are many other things that we do not know about.

Well, there is only one thing left to do. We call the story "The Palace of Putin's Children" and shoot a film for a couple of hours.

[sniperino]

Palace of Putin's illegitimate son in Germany. In the center is a statue of Putin. To collect a complete evidence base, send donations in a personal.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: sniperino

Palace of Putin's illegitimate son in Germany.

And how many sons did the next "Lieutenant Schmidt" have ???

[sniperino]

Quote: tihonmarine

And how many sons did the next "Lieutenant Schmidt" have ???

So far, I cannot name the exact number, there are not enough donations.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: prior

I find that there is Valdai, there is Zavidovo, there is the Konstantinovsky Palace ... and there are many other things that we do not know about.

Yes, a lot of things we know and do not know about their rulers. But it's not clear whether Putin personally needs a palace for his personal use. Judging by the fact that Stalin, Brezhnev, Yeltsin died in dachas, but at state dachas. Only the first two are in office, and the last is retired. And the same GDP will retire, but the dacha will be for it for life, well, four dachas in old age are no longer needed, I don’t know what to do with one, I’m too lazy to go, and I don’t show up for the second one for three years.

[sniperino]

Quote: tihonmarine

four summer cottages in old age are no longer needed, here I no longer know what to do with one

Similarly.

[sniperino]

Quote: vvvjak

participated in the construction of a racing track at Putin's dacha

Self-powered dacha based on a mini-nuclear reactor?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: vvvjak

About 7 years ago, one friend of the foreman claimed that he had participated in the construction of a racing track at Putin's dacha Valdai.

Well, my friend, a builder, also told me how they built a metro line branch to the house of Dmitry Medvedev. And if you believe everyone, then your head will go "Oh, what's going on in the world." Therefore, I always listen about the fox Alice and the Cat Basilio, and about the construction of Castles-palaces, but until I touch it myself, I don’t believe anyone, as my great-grandfather used to say, “Granddaughter don’t trust people, trust only yourself.”

[vvvjak]

Quote: tihonmarine

Well, my friend also told a builder

This is how the builders will plug Lech in the belt. All the glory will be taken away

Quote: tihonmarine

until I touch it myself, I don't believe anyone

Yes, I, too, am not at the age to believe in fairy tales.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: vvvjak

This is how the builders will plug Lech in the belt. All the glory will be taken away

The fact is that the "builders" started talking 5 years before Lyokha, and Lyokha stole their brand, introduced it through the media, and threw the "builders" away. It's time for him to "builders" pay dividends for the brand.

[sniperino]

Quote: prior

And here are the answers - kindergarten, nursery group

For questions are an acute department of a mental hospital.

[Roman123567]

And here are the answers - a kindergarten, a nursery group.
I didn't take it, it's not me, whose I don't know .......

This is the most revealing ..
That is, he doesn't bother to think about the answers at all.
The people will swallow any slop ..
How many lies it takes to be so unprincipled !!

[sniperino]

Quote: Roman123567

The people will swallow any slop ..

Roman, don't swallow the slop! Or are you not one of these people? Or, sorry, are you not from the people at all?

[tihonmarine]

And he shouldn't have paid attention to those snakes that bit him. Now they are trying to repeat it with Putin.

Here the commentator is right. It's time for snakes to pull out poisonous teeth and tongues, as well as unscrew their heads.

[yehat2]

Quote: vladimir1155

Why are the Russian government and the central bank destroying the economy with exorbitant taxes and withdrawing funds abroad?

the answer was given long ago by Peskov

Russia Nicholas 2 is our ideal

they are building a class society, and for this it is necessary to make a huge army of impoverished slaves and aristocracy. This is where the whole dance comes from. And they are already close to completion. Our standard of living is constantly falling, education has become a fiction. Almost all social services have already been thrown off by the state, and soon there will be no pensions at all. Half of the population pays loans for life. Not everyone is equal before the law. The obscurantism of the church is already everywhere. Mortality is growing at an accelerated pace, meat and milk have become food for the rich, and the rest are eating soy and coconut oil. It is unrealistic to defend your rights in court. We are already very similar to the very peasants whom Stolypin reformed so enthusiastically. It remains only to wait until everyone who remembers the USSR will die out. What does it give them? Unlimited power and complete irresponsibility. that's what it's all for.

[tatra]

The enemies of the communists, not just for the sake of profit to justify the capture of the USSR, praise "Russia that we have lost" in October 1917, they proved that RI is exactly the State that they need - with the richest power and the Church, rich and richest parasites on the neck of a beggar, powerless people. Therefore, for 30 years they have categorically refused to take responsibility for their seizure of the USSR, because they needed a country ONLY for the sake of personal enrichment at the expense of the country and the people.

[nsm1]

I remember a long time ago, when I was young, I listened to the speech of a communist, at work.
He spoke about the raw materials appendage, the loss of industry, etc.
But people, comrades, hinted, like a stupid commune, does not understand anything ...
Yeah.

[paul3390]

Now we finally understand - the Soviet government really lied to us all these years, telling about the horrors of capitalism. The reality turned out to be much, much worse ...

[Igoresha]

But people, comrades, hinted, like a stupid commune, does not understand anything ...
Yeah.

familiar ... at the research institute, at Papa's work, they did the same, the Soviet system was hated, and now the research institute is no longer there ... the first floor was bought by businessmen and they bake cookies, even though thanks for that

[tihonmarine]

the answer was given long ago by Peskov

Quote: yehat2

Russia Nicholas 2 is our ideal

I thought he was smarter. And he did not think what happened to the Empire of Nicholas II?

[rocket757]

For ten years they have been trying to prove something, but it does not work out. It turns out, perhaps, fakes.

So then they will not have to prove anything ... the situation WILL ADAPT their mistakes, assumptions, neglect, miscalculations of power, in relation to their citizens ... just the younger generation perceives everything sharper, sharper ... there is not a conversation about rationality, impulsiveness, hormones and the general atmosphere of distrust, dissatisfaction with the authorities, their lives ... they will grow up, become voters and ELECTED !!! if they are not offered, designated, shown a normal, worthy alternative to applying their strengths and skills, some part will not return to a constructive track, to ordinary life .... what will happen to them then ??? who, now, can say about it ???

[Baloo]

There is already 5 president in the USA. GDP is not Nicholas 2, .... and the navralny is not Kerensky and not even Sverdlov with Trotsky in one glass, and even more so not Parvus. So. petty crook, American-British-German uh ... you get the idea. For him, all this is a family business under the roof of Western intelligence services. By the way, why not publish their tax returns. And I'm also interested in what merits the father-in-law of Navralny, a former diplomat, received American citizenship, what he lives on. Really writes memoirs. And to earn money from what navralny supports his daughter in America. And what about the real estate behind the fence, for what and from what earnings. I really want the navralny to return to the treasury the booty from Kirovles and supplies of tomographs. After all, Stalin forced Trotsky (and not him alone) to give back what he had stolen from Gokhran before turning him out of the country. By the way, it would be very interesting to read an article about those events of 1927 .. Not so much about the attempt on Stalin's life on the platform of the mausoleum, but about the failed real coup of the Trotskyists, in which certain characters with understandable nationalities from the USSR special services were mixed up, which actually served as another impetus to repression.

[Bar1]

Quote: Balu

There is already 5 president in the USA. GDP is not Nicholas 2, .... and the navralny is not Kerensky and not even Sverdlov with Trotsky in one glass, and even more so not Parvus. So. petty crook, American-British-German uh ... you get the idea

and who do you prefer between "a petty swindler and a" big swindler "?

[Baloo]

Only those who do not wave to their sworn partners and do not live for babos because of the fence.

[Bar1]

Quote: Balu

Only those who do not wave to their sworn partners and do not live for babos because of the fence.

those. if you have bills over the hill, will you count all of them? But at the present time there are many of them and it was Putin who instituted such orders.

[paul3390]

Assign a petty crook to a big one, he will eat his fill and will also no longer take the money from behind the fence .. Why - if you can safely rob your own?

[sniperino]

Quote: Bar1

between "petty swindler and" big swindler "

This is your choice.

[Vadim_888]

... So. petty rogue, US-British-German

Tell me more precisely whose, or else how in '37: either Polish, or Japanese,
Working for several reconnaissance is a shame because the probability of failure increases dramatically

[Tagan]

Quote: Svarog

I watched the answers .. well, of course, the student read the written instructions .. but the answers did not impress .. Well, I would answer then, who we still have so rich and whom the FSO and FSB are protecting.

Resolution.
But you can't understand your fellows. Someone seemed to want Putin to comment on this issue. Not?
Impressed / not impressed is a matter of your personal faith.
There are some subtleties.
Just the same, "multiple poisonings" are not impressive.
If necessary, the great whistleblower was stopped / "pacified" long ago. As I understand it, with sixes this is done once or twice. Moreover, if all this was directed by Putin))) This should be applied to the rest of the participants in the "exposure". Has all this fuss gone unnoticed? Didn't stay, definitely.
Amused by the "navigators". Well, like, they're so cunning. called and sniffed for a long time about the restricted area, but no one guessed about it)))
There are many more funny moments, including about a hundred thousand transactions that these eccentrics "analyzed". If you are not aware of some of the technical nuances of banking and the fact that from some point on, Bank Rossiya has been operating in the ruble zone, then this will not tell you anything. There may be many banks, but Alyosha was pushing exactly on this bank.
Well, special thanks for the graphics. She certainly proves a lot))

[nsm1]

Quote: Tagan

If necessary, the great whistleblower was stopped / "pacified" a long time ago

By itself.
Watching the fight of the Nanai boys.

[Ross xnumx]

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“I want to answer your question right away: nothing of what is indicated there as my property, neither me nor my close relatives, belongs and never did. Never..."

And just before that, the respected gentleman assured the young talent that he had no time to watch these opuses. State affairs weigh on the shoulders. Then how did he (Mr Putin) know what was shown in the film? Maybe the "blizzard" again confused something? It would be simply ridiculous for me if it became known that the former KGB officer, the former head of the FSB of the Russian Federation did not know about responsibility for “property and real estate that did not fit into the declaration of income” ... Well, no, no, no. No, and no trial. Moreover, (I read somewhere) the ex-president is guaranteed complete immunity ... From those to whom he guarantees it today ...

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"Article 3. Immunity of the President of the Russian Federation who has terminated the exercise of his powers

1. The President of the Russian Federation, who has terminated the exercise of his powers, has immunity. He cannot be brought to criminal or administrative responsibility, as well as detained, arrested, subjected to a search, interrogation or body search.

2. The immunity of the President of the Russian Federation, who has terminated the exercise of his powers, extends to the residential and office premises he occupies, the vehicles used by him, communications equipment, documents and luggage belonging to him, and his correspondence.

3. The President of the Russian Federation, who has terminated the exercise of his powers, may be deprived of immunity by the Federation Council of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation (hereinafter - the Federation Council) only on the basis of an accusation of high treason or other committing by the State Duma of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation (hereinafter - the State Duma) a serious crime, confirmed by the conclusion of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation on the presence in the actions of the President of the Russian Federation, who has terminated the exercise of his powers, signs of a crime and the conclusion of the Constitutional Court of the Russian Federation on the observance of the established procedure for bringing charges.

4. The decision of the State Duma to bring charges and the decision of the Federation Council to deprive the President of the Russian Federation of immunity who has terminated the exercise of his powers must be adopted by two-thirds of the total number of senators of the Russian Federation and deputies of the State Duma, respectively, on the initiative of at least one-third of the State Duma deputies and subject to the conclusion of a special commission formed by the State Duma.

5. The decision of the Federation Council on depriving the immunity of the President of the Russian Federation who has terminated the exercise of his powers must be made no later than three months after the State Duma brings charges against the President of the Russian Federation who has ceased to exercise his powers. If within this period the decision of the Federation Council is not adopted, the accusation against the President of the Russian Federation, who has terminated the exercise of his powers, is considered rejected.

6. The President of the Russian Federation, who has terminated the performance of his powers, against whom the charge has been brought, shall have the right to participate in the consideration of the issue at a meeting of the corresponding chamber of the Federal Assembly of the Russian Federation. "

President of the Russian Federation V. Putin

"So. For 10 years, something should have remained, at least some registration of some land plots, some financial transactions, well, at least some registration by a notary ... "

Dear Vladimir Vladimirovich! We also thought that something would remain from our deposits, privatization checks and fund shares ... (There were also registers, passport numbers, licenses, etc., etc.) But, fuck it !!!
Therefore, if you yourself did not go to the notary, then he should have nothing left ...

[sniperino]

Quote: ROSS 42

Then how did he (Mr Putin) know that the film shows

Many have not looked, but they know what it says by hearsay. For example, I have enough comments on VO. For what time to spend, I do not know, although I am not the president, but a pensioner.

[rotmistr60]

Marek Budzis, meanwhile, believes that Navalny "was able to expose Putin"

It's not even funny anymore. With the Pole, everything is all right, but after all, a certain number of young Russian citizens perceive an outright lie as really "exposure." This is what the foreign curators were counting on creating this "masterpiece of disclosure" when Navalny was still allegedly coming to his senses under the supervision of German "doctors" from the BND.

[Alex66]

In fact, we are now faced with the choice of Putin or Navalny, both choices are false, and the right choice is hidden and hushed up. Putin has discredited himself with the pension reform, violating a non-public agreement between the people and the elite. Bulk 100% foreign agent does not hide it. Both the one and the other reflect the interests of the bourgeoisie, one part is already in power, the other is striving for it. For both people, this is a resource that must be exploited. Whom to choose? Platoshkin, Avksentiev may be someone else who is able to think of the people as people, just not Putin and Navalny.

[sniperino]

Quote: Alex66

Whom to choose? Platoshkina

Who podmakala Shevardnadze, Kozyrev, and now crawled under the Communist Party. This is your choice. If we compare these wolves with Kryuchkov, then the latter is a lamb: a conscientious, responsible leader who did not have the authority to investigate the activities of Politburo members.

[Radical]

Quote: Svarog

I watched the answers .. well, of course, the student read the written instructions .. but the answers did not impress .. Well, I would answer then, who we still have so rich and whom the FSO and FSB are protecting.

A student who asked a question about an object in the Gelendzhik area had a surname ... Chemezov.

[Radical]

Putin:

Well, at least some documents should have remained, contracts certified by a notary, in the end. But nothing is presented, because it is nothing. I will say the phrase of the famous character from the classics "Boring, girls ..."

The guarantor periodically uses this aphorism ... of his own "invention", passing off as the words of some mythical persona from some classics ... it's funny.

[Radical]

Quote: OrangeBigg

... "And once they accused Nicholas II": a view from the West at Navalny's film and Putin's comments

Someone in the West is already burning in one place as they want to make Nicholas II out of Putin, and out of present-day Russia the Russian Empire since its collapse. This is what they want. And they don't even hide it. And fairy tales about the palace are nothing more than an attempt to manipulate the public consciousness of Russians in order to add fuel to the fire. An attempt to set the country on fire. Such arson was widely used in Ukraine in 2014, during the Arab Spring of 2011. It is known how it all ended. There were the same charges of embezzlement.

A question for you - is there an object in the Gelendzhik area, or not?

[paul3390]

There is no question - the object glows on all maps like a beacon in the dark ..
https://yandex.ru/maps/?ll=38.208371%2C44.419965&pt=38.205306%2C44.419202&source=entity_search&z=15.8

[Radical]

Quote: Lech from Android.

There are many questions to Navalny ... when he pours out his alleged compromising evidence, he does not confirm it with reliable documents ... therefore, he has no faith in principle.
The Charite clinic where Navalny was placed is more like an unofficial office of the special services ... there they pumped Navalny with this very allegedly compromising evidence ... a lot of strange things happen there ...

Exactly! And in general, with this "Charite" we must ask for our radio operator Kat, whom they gave to the Gestapo!

[Roman123567]

Yes, yes .. the palace is not his .. and his daughter is also not his ..
Anyone can be convinced of this ..))

[impostor]

Louis Cators, loving comfort,
Versailles built for himself
I forgot the toilet, arranged everything for the ball
And our tourist is not so simple
He asked the guide a question:
"Where did the king put the urine and feces?"
(c) Victor Temnov.

[evgen1221]

The first rule of a businessman and just a rich person in the Russian Federation (well, or the second), No property for himself (all friends or distant relatives from very remote villages or offshore through an offshore. And I agree with Svarog, I could hint at least who it is FSO with FSB in such comfortable dungeons is going to rot.

[Abdallah]

From Russia with narcissism? Behold the madness of King Vlad in the palace mansions created for his pleasure "

[Carib]

Yes FSO with FSB does not smell there. At least they would have removed the slagbaum with the guard, the bearing, the uniform of the guard. Technical means of the post, slagbaum, anti-ram devices ... And on the phone anyone could answer.

[sniperino]

Quote: Carib

At least they would have removed the slagbaum with the guard, the bearing, the uniform of the guard.

They tried, but the guards immediately open fire to kill. How many unknown photographers were killed there, as if no one knows, but no less than a thousand.

[Radical]

Quote: paul3390

There is no question - the object glows on all maps like a beacon in the dark ..
https://yandex.ru/maps/?ll=38.208371%2C44.419965&pt=38.205306%2C44.419202&source=entity_search&z=15.8

Yes, I am aware, only my question to the author of the comment was preliminary, then it was supposed to be the second, but so far there has been no reaction from the citizen.

[Incvizitor]

Why was it necessary to stoop at all to answer the delirium of this creature? I would say "a typical Western lie" and that's it.

[Greenwood]

So whose palace is that?

[sniperino]

Quote: Greenwood

So whose palace is that?

Do you want to buy, or are you so interested?

[Vadim_888]

Now it's simple - state property

[Ugochaves]

Quote: Bar1

I'm not for sale

You just didn’t "make an offer that you cannot refuse" (c), but by and large, you are simply not needed by anyone

[Bar1]

Quote: UgoChaves

You just didn’t "make an offer that you cannot refuse" (c), but by and large, you are simply not needed by anyone

I accept only one proposal - the angel of death, to restore justice.

[APASUS]

The story is reminiscent of Yanukovych's "golden toilets".
The toilets were never found, but the country is gone !!!
And what is the crime, I do not understand? This money has been stolen, so why the bulk is rolling a barrel at Putin, there is evidence goes to court. If the oligarchs give this house to Putin, which proposes to abolish the donation institution
What is the essence of the crime?

[sniperino]

Quote: APASUS

The story is reminiscent of Yanukovych's "golden toilets".

The ideological and thematic basis of the script is the same. You can still use it to nag build and build.

[Vyatsky]

I looked at the comments, the conclusion suggests itself the following: no need to post such materials on VO! A resource with a military theme is rapidly turning yellow! I have a question for those drowning for Navalny and his investigation: Do you know this person? Have you encountered the results of his activities (except for investigations)? Frankly, I myself have a very negative attitude towards him, but not because of his "investigations" and not even because of the poisoning performance. The basis is his activity in my native Kirov region. After what he did with us, there is no trust in any of his investigations, even if they are at least three times true. It's my personal opinion.

[Prax1]

I personally know that he is a really decent and honest person. A true patriot of Russia. He did not steal any forest, matters are purely political.

[Vyatsky]

No, he did not steal the forest))) he simply shoved a gasket between KOGUP Kirovles and its end customers. Ask him (if you personally know) about the Vyatka Forestry Company and how the regional administration called General Kirovles about it. And how they twisted their hands so that sales would go through it ... At that time I worked in the Kirovles branch in Kotelnich. The guys were cutting the money shock))). You can also ask about the Yaransky SDZ, Kirovkhleb, for example.

[Vyatsky]

Together with Nikita, they brought this rot to us ... Until now, not all is well in the Kirov forest.

[APASUS]

Quote: Prax1

I personally know that he is a really decent and honest person. A true patriot of Russia. He did not steal any forest, matters are purely political.

Is this about Navalny?
I didn't understand his criminal cases, but I think there was a reason to stick it (this is a separate conversation)
But the story of the promised $ 10 thousand to everyone detained at the rally took place in front of my eyes. Children (15-16 years old) flooded to the rally, and then they wrote on the net and complained that they did not get money from Navalny. to have a rest, abroad, pictures were posted with lobsters!

[Max Lebedev]

And I think that Navalny is a Kremlin project. As well as the Liberal Democratic Party.

[sniperino]

Quote: Max Lebedev

Navalny is a Kremlin project.

HPP ?? And those fools in the Western governments are sending planes with steamers after him, the Boy Scouts swear by his name ... The world has gone crazy.

[Jaromir]

And once they accused Nicholas II

And it was by the way for what!

[Lord of the Sith]

In the British press, as always, there is unanimity in relation to the Russian Federation. The authors call for the introduction of sanctions against the president, punishing arrest Bulk.

The punishment of the small British has grown, or so, what a fart?

[Rusticolus]

An interesting observation. Thieves and their adherents shout loudest about theft. And as for the oligarchs who live at the expense of the people, those who themselves live at the expense of others, all sorts of dependents and parasites who in life have not earned more than a penny by their labor, shout about the oligarchs. It turns out that？ Bees against honey？ Now it is clear why they are so inadequate, they apparently have chronic insanity and porridge in their heads. They themselves do not understand what they are shouting about, if only it is louder.

[Strannik96]

Misinformation about the head of state of Russia and the Commander-in-Chief - in order to make a riot, if the majority have shoulder straps on their avatars, then somehow it does not agree. If Putin would be such as the West represents, he would be their best friend. But it is not possible to win by military force, then to make a rebellion from within. Vyatskys know firsthand what and how bulk did in Kirov and especially with the forest.

[Rusticolus]

Here I am about the same. And also about the absolute majority of "bulk". They themselves sit on the neck of dad and mom, and talk about how others live at someone else's expense, and who pays how much taxes and where they go, although they themselves have not paid a penny. It's like homeless people will discuss a developer. The same "experts" are the same.

[sniperino]

Quote: Rusticolus

They themselves sit on the neck of dad and mom, and talk about how others live at someone else's expense

Moreover, with such confidence, as if they themselves built those palaces, and Putin personally allowed them to play hockey in his basement, and once he went out on the ice in Armani's uniform.

[Vyatsky]

Yes, we know, and not only with the forest ...

[Vyatsky]

What's the minus is that I don't like the information from the places of "military glory" of the Berlin patient ???

[Konnick]

Italian readers note that Putin “built a bridge to Crimea in 3 years”, stadiums for the 2018 FIFA World Cup and facilities for the Sochi Olympics in 5-7 years.

Such phrases infuriate me. He built ??? ... And I say - I took part in the construction of the Crimean Bridge and the Olympic facilities in Sochi, but I never say what I built. What kind of participation did Putin take in the construction, did he put his signature or pointed his finger and waved a whip?
These objects were built by the whole country. A bunch of contractors and subcontractors from Moscow, Kurgan, Voronezh, Omsk, St. Petersburg and the list goes on. And this palace in Praskoveyevka, due to the preservation of secrecy, was built by only Spetsstroy, those are still specialists, they still cannot complete the cosmodrome in Svobodny. And which private trader will be allowed to seize a part of the coast, this is a protected area ... you see, it is tactless to name the owners.

[7,62x54]

People say that a person similar to the Respected Leader visited the construction site. He shook hands with the stunned hard workers, said thanks.
But that is probably a rumor. After all, the castle is not his.

[Konnick]

They only talk. With such a phobia, this is impossible, before its decorative appearance on the streets, these streets are cleaned, the public is represented by FSO officers and carefully trained people, and now after a 2-week quarantine. Even the ice cream shop assistant. Remember one of the inaugurations with the passage in an armored car along the devastated Moscow streets. Every time I pass along Rusakovskaya Street under the Mitkoa overpass, I recall the incident with V.I. Lenin, which occurred in this place in early January 1919. Then Lenin with his wife and sister, accompanied by ONE guard in a car with a driver, drove to the Forest School in Sokolniki Park. And under this very overpass, he was robbed by Koshelkov's gang. I will not describe in detail, everything is on the internet. The beginning of 1919, there is a Civil War, dark streets, and Lenin is driving without fear without a motorcade and without snipers on the roofs ... in a car without a roof ...

[Vyatsky]

It seems that you have never seen how boat garages are built on the coast with two or three residential floors on top.

[7,62x54]

There are young people in Russia who think soberly and can ask the right questions, but such are not allowed. They slipped a dummy.
The film stated that the Distinguished Leader owns the palace through dummies.
In general, he lies as usual.

[Vyatsky]

What if I say that you own "through dummies"?

[Cotton Colorado]

[Quote
-Rivers are shallow in the country. Last year they showed the Kuban river WITHOUT WATER. The Ob river was shallow.
[/ Quote]
If Kui is too short, Putin is also to blame! And he also relieves needs in entrances and on playgrounds.

[Kushka]

I heard that under Khrushchev, an aunt was brought to VDNKh from the wilderness,
milkmaid heroine. In the pavilion of the Central Asian republic
she was shown a two-humped camel. Eyes wide open
she said that there could be no such animal. They asked
why? Answered - because there are no such animals
(something like this).
Now that's the same on VO.

[BastaKarapuzik And]

Quote: aleksejkabanets

must dispel all doubts, since he is the face of our state

Well then, treat accordingly, humanly. This attack is not only on Vladimir Vladimirovich personally, it is a spit on the side of the Russian statehood as such.
You cannot make such unfounded statements about the top leadership of a great country.
This is a red line.

[BastaKarapuzik And]

Quote: 7,62x54

owns the palace through dummies

Well, that was not said there.

[BastaKarapuzik And]

Quote: Konnick

owners see them tactless to call

The owner has already been named.

[Konnick]

And who is this, who was allowed to chop off a piece of the beach and build a pier, fencing the beach with barbed wire, setting up a FSO guard post and blocking one of the most popular hiking tourist routes?

[BastaKarapuzik And]

Quote: Konnick

And who is it that was allowed to chop off a piece

https://www.yuga.ru/news/219988/
It is curious that this is generally originally 11th year material.
Everything has been known for a long time, read the link.

[Konnick]

You have not watched the video Palace ... there S. Kolesnikov exposes his property

[Konnick]

We looked ... Not the rector, but the vice-rector of Moscow State University for construction, but the rector of Plekhanovsky, his dad, immediately quit, I know them personally. Khinshtein took over them, and Navalny just mentioned them in one investigation 4 years ago. Those. You doubt that the palace in Praskoveevka is not Putin's. Everyone believes in something, someone believes that there is no God, someone believes that God exists ... so in my opinion the pastor from Beware of the Automobile said.

[BastaKarapuzik And]

This is fiction from start to finish. And I'm wondering why I don't see my comment here, which I wrote in reply the day before?
Well, think for yourself, the crime is almost perfect. Not a penny was lost from the budget, nothing can be proved, there are no documents. There is no trace of wiring money.
Shares, allegedly of Putin, to bearer, no documents confirming that the owner of this and that is not necessary, and that is, there is no way to confirm ownership.
Moreover, Kolesnikov himself did not experience any remorse and does not feel that he "participated in such schemes." He is not afraid of the Russian prosecutor's office either. Why should he be afraid?
The oligarchs have never written a statement to the police about the inappropriate use of the donation.
But Putin got dirty. We trust Kolesnikov, a schemer and a swindler who fled abroad.
But we don't trust Putin, one of the most prominent rulers of Russia ..
Shame and shame. Who among the great rulers of Russia has not been slandered or slandered?

[Vyatsky]

Quote: Konnick

They only talk. With such a phobia, this is impossible, before its decorative appearance on the streets, these streets are cleaned, the public is represented by FSO officers and carefully trained people, and now after a 2-week quarantine. Even the ice cream shop assistant. Remember one of the inaugurations with the passage in an armored car along the devastated Moscow streets. Every time I pass along Rusakovskaya Street under the Mitkoa overpass, I recall the incident with V.I. Lenin, which occurred in this place in early January 1919. Then Lenin with his wife and sister, accompanied by ONE guard in a car with a driver, drove to the Forest School in Sokolniki Park. And under this very overpass, he was robbed by Koshelkov's gang. I will not describe in detail, everything is on the internet. The beginning of 1919, there is a Civil War, dark streets, and Lenin is driving without fear without a motorcade and without snipers on the roofs ... in a car without a roof ...

Well, duck Lenin got a bullet from Fani Kaplan in the end. You see, now the risks are slightly different, at the beginning of the twentieth century, the country could not be destroyed in an hour ...

[Vyatsky]

Quote: Konnick

And who is this, who was allowed to chop off a piece of the beach and build a pier, fencing the beach with barbed wire, setting up a FSO guard post and blocking one of the most popular hiking tourist routes?

Make a request to the Regalat, if so interesting))) Oooh, the moderators began to delete comments, violate the right to freedom of speech)))

[Connor MacLeod]

$ 1 billion in 20 years is not much. That's $ 20 billion a year that's a lot -
so much will Russia lose if the Americans manage to block SP-2. We choose the lesser of two evils.

[Konnick]

Quote: Bar1

oligorphrenate, sorry

Another manifestation of oligorphicism, the son of the head of the Russian Guard Roman Zolotov is selling a pink marble palace for only 1,65 billion rubles at TsIAN. The beauty is indescribable, I almost got drunk, the gypsies gnash their teeth. Urgently, maybe there is not enough money for a palace in Gelendzhik. Look, maybe someone wants to buy this ... you can't call it architecture. This is an exquisite, understand, Armenian-Gypsy style for special connoisseurs https://odintsovo.cian.ru/sale/suburban/241652346/

[Konnick]

Quote: Ka-52

Capitalism allows only exploiters to be rich.

It also allows you to dream more, i.e. under socialism, young people dreamed of their own apartment and car, but now you can dream of your own palaces, yachts and airplanes, under capitalism dreams are not limited and we are taught that it can be earned by hard work

[1536]

I’m wondering, how many people are there in our country who know specifically where this very city of Gelendzhik is located? I mean, how many kilometers is it from Moscow or St. Petersburg? Apparently, the Poles assume that this very little town is somewhere within walking distance from the Moscow River, on the banks of which the Kremlin stands. But they can be forgiven, after all the Poles returned from exile from Siberia, Russia for them consists of Moscow and that very hated Siberia, which they, nevertheless, promised to all humanity as a gift, if again their “False Dmitry” has already The 5th in a row, it seems, will find himself on the throne of the Moscow kingdom.
But, for example, take the British. They are smarter and more educated, after all, they had Newton, and Paul McCartney lives. None of the British were in mass exile in Russia; all commands are repeated in their language in the Moscow metro. So why did they think and decide that immediately after the “pogrom of the Kremlin” planned for that day by American “diplomats” in uniform from the embassy in Moscow, the “rebellious” people would go to destroy the residence of the “tyrant” in Gelendzhik? Confused with Kiev, or what? Or did they mistakenly think that in Russia everything was done according to the same template, because the Italians built all of Russia in their time? Few made it to Matrosskaya Tishina Street, and the campaign against Gelendzhik would have ended with the capture of London out of anger, and not with the defeat of the notorious “residence.” They are a risky people, these British, and that’s why they probably live well, because whoever doesn’t take risks doesn’t drink champagne, and that’s why they’ve been muddying the waters with impunity for 700 years, that way.
In a word, what the hell!

[BastaKarapuzik And]

Britain is a pirate and colonialist state.

[Magnat231]

I read a comment here on the Internet, it roughly goes like this: Putin built a bridge in 3 years, in Sochi for the Olympics it took 5-6 years, but he’s been building his own palace for 15 years, but it’s complete nonsense

[Plastmaster]

Quote: Bar1

By the way, can you name those who rob their country and leave their people beggars?

This is why I am against Putin, but not for Navalny. Maybe I should go for Platoshkin? Maybe they keep him for this? For his people to free him.

[anclevalico]

It’s a no-brainer that it’s not Putin. This is not bad, but the fact that such palaces are even possible in a poor country. I’m not talking about construction, just maintaining such a facility is incredibly expensive. At whose expense is this holiday? I was embarrassed to answer. Why?

[BastaKarapuzik And]

Quote: Essex62

The IVS was building a new, unique society in the history of mankind and using all available effective methods for its rapid construction. And he cleaned it, cleaned it of the huckster element, uprooted the psychology of the private owner, the backyard owner.

Machines won’t help us, but cleaning out the psychology of the “backbone” will help? Practice has shown that it did not help, but gave rise to new problems. Methods that give effect during rapid construction are not suitable for capital construction. Khrushchev began to dismantle the system that worked under Stalin, and by the end of the life of the USSR there was little left of it at all.