Events in the US information environment called "digital inquisition"

In the year of the 230th anniversary of the ratification of the Bill of Rights in the US Constitution, a fundamental amendment ceased to apply in this country. This is the 1st Amendment, which guarantees Americans various rights and freedoms, including freedom of speech.

Now, with freedom of speech in the United States, things are very bad. The largest media and digital information giants allow themselves to produce without trial and investigation what is called "digital mortification" in the modern media world. We are talking about blocking accounts on social networks, banning performances on the air, removing materials from publication.

The Western press says that the West has not seen anything like it for many centuries. One expert compares this kind of persecution of free speech to the days of the Inquisition in Medieval Europe. Back then, books and people declared heretics were burning on bonfires, now the bonfires are “digital”: there was an account on the social network, and then it was gone - “burned down in a digital fire” after the decision of the “digital inquisition”. Moreover, such "bonfires" are kindled by persons who at one time spoke most of all about what a great American achievement today is freedom of speech.

Today, there is no freedom of speech in the United States.

Mikhail Leontyev reflects on this in the plot of the program "However". Plot:

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[Bykov.]

The Amerigos are on the right path.

[Maki maki]

And this is just the beginning

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Maki Maki

And this is just the beginning

Then let them put on the "Iron Curtain" and cook in their own juice!
And the main thing is not to get into the affairs of other countries with your pig's snout!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Starover_Z

And the main thing is not to get into the affairs of other countries with your pig's snout!

Climb
It's in their blood

[Vladimir Mashkov]

EVERYTHING is extremely simple: the "democrats" -inquisitors prove to their fellow citizens and the whole world that - actually - democracy in the USA no and they not democratic country. That will not prevent them from allegedly "fighting for democracy in the whole world" with their inherent impudence, but - in fact - from subjugating the countries of the world.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Bulls.

The Amerigos are on the right path.

Flag in their hands, a drum on their neck and a locomotive to meet

[Lipchanin]

Two defenders of zashtatniks have already appeared

[Dodikson]

now they will heap more.
here the topic is more painful than the topic with anal.
there they beat them, and here they beat them.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Dodikson

now they will heap more.

I know
How the locusts will swoop

[Dodikson]

they have already begun to spoil our zhist.
it seems that even this site began to be DDoS, and how interesting, after the appearance of articles on censorship in the states.
well they do not like this topic.

[Finches]

The realities of Ukraine are such, rogue need to pay off the IMF debts!

[prior]

So Gref in Russia insists on complete digitalization. Everything in the smartphone - and the license, and the passport, and SNILS, and an electronic work book ...
Every coin, every medal has a reverse side.
I wonder how Gref will prove that he is Gref if the battery in the smartphone runs out?
Can they imagine a collapse in the event of a power outage or other natural or man-made cataclysm?
They stole a smartphone, forgot the password - and you're dead.
You see, they don't like paper.

[nsm1]

Why write such an absurdity?
The banking system has been working in this way for a long time.
And nothing somehow, all problems can be solved.

[prior]

And never in the banking environment has there been such theft as in the era of digitalization ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: prior

And never in the banking environment has there been such theft as in the era of digitalization ...

And do they steal a little on a mobile phone?
Ready to give up your mobile phone?

[Dodikson]

tell me, could you steal money from a savings bank without having this savings bank, but knowing only its number?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Dodikson

and it was possible to steal money from a savings bank without having this savings bank, but knowing only its number?

And you can steal from the card without knowing the pin code?

[Dodikson]

can . through the Internet .

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Dodikson

can . through the Internet .

Until you get to the Internet, I will block it 40 times

[nsm1]

You can, up to a thousand at a time.
But since cameras everywhere - at once unhooked.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: nsm1

You can, up to a thousand at a time.

Transfer the card to the pin code and all the cases

[nsm1]

It seems impossible to contactless ...
Although it may only be in our bank.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: nsm1

It seems impossible to contactless ...
Although it may only be in our bank.

Can. Go to your bank on the internet and see.
Well, or at the bank office

[sniperino]

Quote: Lipchanin

And you can steal from the card without knowing the pin code?

The post-bank card must be inserted into the terminal and entered the pin-code, and the Sberbank card must be applied and spent without a pin-code. I have so.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: nsm1

And nothing somehow, all problems can be solved.

I went to the bank office and all problems were solved
I solve almost all problems at SberBank through a mobile application on my computer, laptop and tablet

[Dodikson]

luck that you did not catch the Trojan.
and then after that you would not want to have any more online at all.

[Lipchanin]

Is there a Trojan in Sberbank ???
Yes, it's easier to catch AIDS in phone sex

[Dodikson]

The Trojan can be picked up not in Sberbank, but BEFORE Sberbank.
both on a computer and on a smart.
I am familiar with this topic firsthand, so I know what I'm saying.

[nsm1]

So you can lose cash, take out a pickpocket, etc.
And Trojans, especially on smartphones, are not that widespread ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: nsm1

Trojans, especially on smartphones, are not that widespread ..

Observe elementary protection rules and with a 90% probability you won't catch anything

[Dodikson]

there are holes in browsers too, and they are trojanized through them by the millions.
yes, if you sit on a couple of sites and do not put anything, then it is unlikely that you will catch something, but if you climb everywhere it is very possible to catch it.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Dodikson

and put nothing

I bet only from trusted sites.
About every two, three days I clean the computer.
I do not use antivirus programs on principle

[Dodikson]

there are more than enough of them. you can just pick them up on smart.
but if you use online on a computer, then it is not very difficult to put it on a smart one, and any SMS protection will not help you in any way.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Dodikson

The Trojan can be picked up not in Sberbank, but BEFORE Sberbank.

So how does this Trojan know the password?
So how does this Trojan know the one-time code?
And nothing, that as soon as I go to my page I immediately receive an SMS that I have entered my page and I can immediately block it?

[nsm1]

And my sms-in comes to another tablet, not the one from which I enter the bank ...
And on it the Internet is disabled.

[Dodikson]

and when you log into the online it will show that they say put a security application from the bank by that qr code and until you put it, you will not have access, then you will only put it in it will not be a security application.
everything that you described was bypassed 5 years ago. Now this is generally got the hang of that if you write that hell you believe that this is possible.

[nsm1]

So I do not install applications, none at all.
I just come in from the firefox.
PS: banking that is.
And the simple ones are just what you really need.

[Dodikson]

through the injection, your firefox will show you that for security purposes you need to enter your DOB, SSN and MMN (but what they want to know, even the length of the member). and then a window will come out that now you need to install this application and until you install it, neither firefox nor chrome nor edge nor opera will be allowed.
and you put it on.
PS I sleep, my eyes are already cutting.

[nsm1]

So I won't do it ...
And if the injection from a bank site, then this is absurd, then the bank was already surrounded ...
PS: if so, I'll go from another device and that's it.
And my passwords are not saved anywhere and are not written down on paper.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: nsm1

PS: if so, I'll go from another device

Yes, it's easier to call the bank and they will tell you everything

[Dodikson]

in, there is really one BUT. hidden call forwarding is called when you dial one number, but the call actually goes to another. and there you will be confirmed and convinced of everything. only then you will not see the money.
amendment, if you have 2-5 hundred bucks on your account, then no one will even be interested in you.

[Dodikson]

an injection puts a Trojan on you, and that you picked it up, you will find out last, because in 90% of cases neither aver nor a fire can see them, and everything looks very plausible, because whole teams are doing what they are doing so that hell you think that this is not a legal bank request .
Moreover, they can even write a tolfree phone there, and yes, this phone will work and there they will answer all your questions, only that phone will not belong to the bank.
I say again - everything that you are trying to tell me now is already 5 years passed stage.

[nsm1]

In principle, everything is possible, but there are a lot of difficulties and more.
Executing javascript in the context of the page is the simplest thing, but it won't work, and the additions are signed and it is unlikely that anyone will put the left one so easily.
Connect to process, patch, etc. is also extremely difficult due to the zoo of androids, phones, etc.
The waxing danger is exaggerated.
In practice, cryptocurrencies are more often stolen.

[Dodikson]

Believe me, all these injections into the process were back in 2008 on the Zeus Trojan, and they were there before Zeus, but I don't remember the name anymore. in 2003, the Germans introduced TANs to protect against carders, and even then there were injections that memorized the TAN but did not send it, giving an error that the TAN was used, and the holder introduced a new TAN giving the carder a suitable TAN through which he pulled everything.
now expensive Trojans are already working in automatic mode. moreover, the auto-fill mode was already in 2007, but then it was a separate topic. but now it is already an integrated system, when the trooper himself finds out which ban, looks for the balance, compares what percentage and amount can be withdrawn in this bank at a time without a palette, and if the amount is good, he himself informs the operator that there is a fat piece and it is already being sawed ... And so the auto-filling itself drains everything and you know the hell, all your SMS and stuff have long been bypassed, and add. data of the CLN DOB MMN type, the date of issue of the driver's license and passport is taken by injections.
yes damn, already built-in rdp in a good three as 10 years old standard theme, backconnects with proxies, smtp redirects, but damn it has more functions than windows.
in general, as I understand it, you don’t know a damn about Trojans.

[nsm1]

Quote: Dodikson

believe me, all these injections into the process were back in 2008 on the Zeus Trojan

It's on Windows, isn't it?

[Dodikson]

yes in sight. on android i saw this in 2017, the Loki Trojan.

[nsm1]

Yes, I know a little, I have never met.
I have debian on my laptops, but I don’t put everything on the tablet, so there’s never been a virus or a Trojan ...

[Dodikson]

Well, you have it. and ordinary people have Windows, neither uac nor smart screens, nor avers with fires help. SMS is bypassed by smart Trojan and the user does it
now I stupidly read the description of the capabilities of the three and fucking, at the time of Zeus it seemed fantastic, but now the usual functionality of the three is of the middle hand. and there are also private trois with rootkits and zyrodey. there the price tag is true from 100k. but there is generally something with something that will happen.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Dodikson

and when you enter online it will show that they say put a security application from the bank by that qr code and until you put it, you will not have access,

I can always call the bank and find out whether there was such an offer or not.
As a rule, tanks do not offer to install anything extra
Well, by analogy with cash.
Can I tell you how gypsies take money away?
In completely sober and adequate people

[Dodikson]

the call to the bank will be forwarded to others.

[nsm1]

I go to the bank from the tablet, I call from the push-button phone, always.
Not from paranoia, the tablet is large, not convenient.
You can redirect the call if you have access to SS # 7
But this is already to the FSB

[Dodikson]

SS7 can be anyone with $ 10K.
although it was as of 2017, now the price tag is most likely more expensive, but not by much.
and no, to transfer the call access to SS7 is not needed. everything is done by means of the telephone itself. Have you ever transferred a call to another number? this feature was even on push-button telephones.

[nsm1]

Yes, the same is not a problem.
And if from the other?
However, I agree, they usually don't bother with this ...

[Lipchanin]

Quote: nsm1

And my sms-in comes to another tablet, not the one from which I enter the bank ...
And on it the Internet is disabled

It comes to me on a push-button phone on which there is no Internet either
Let at least a regiment of Trojans be launched

[Dodikson]

substitution of DNS on the router will ensure the substitution of data from ANY device in your house, except for those that do not go out through the home network.But at home even smartphones work through Wi-Fi, because the SIM Internet is connected outside the Wi-Fi access zone, and ALL devices will show you that you just need to install such is the application. if you have a push-button telephone. then fuck you and not online until you install this application. and you can call the support service to the shit, because these phones are automatically changed by the injectors to the ones needed by the attackers and they have a tolfree phone, which is allegedly in the states / RF but by ip telephony it is located somewhere in Nicaragua / Kazakhstan

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Lipchanin

Quote: nsm1

And nothing somehow, all problems can be solved.

I went to the bank office and all problems were solved
I solve almost all problems at SberBank through a mobile application on my computer, laptop and tablet

How many people have so many opinions, an old axiom. But really, suppose there was a cataclysm the power supply went out for 2-3 weeks !
Banks, shops, cash registers, and most importantly salary and pension cards "to the light".
And what will happen then ?!

[Lipchanin]

Quote: Starover_Z

And what will happen then ?!

And then you won't do anything with your passport, because your account is still in electronic form
Well, what can happen that the power supply is lost for 2-3 weeks?
I just can't imagine

[Lipchanin]

Quote: prior

... Everything in the smartphone - and the license, and the passport, and SNILS, and an electronic work book ...

Yes, no one makes you do it
All this is voluntary
I do not have a smartphone and no one will force me to buy it and enter data there

Can they imagine a collapse in the event of a power outage or other natural or man-made cataclysm?
They stole a smartphone, forgot the password - and you're dead.

And if you lost the entire set of documents, or, for example, God forbid, they burned out in a fire, then how?

[prior]

A statement of loss - and to the passport office for a new passport, because there is a paper questionnaire filled out upon issue. But what if the server crashes?
I am not against electronic assistants, I am for a reasonable balance. For many years I have been dealing with the reliability of electronic systems and I know firsthand how hopeless they are.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: prior

But what if the server crashes?

And where did you get the idea that your data will only be on one server and not copied anywhere?
If I lose my bank card, I can always get a new one at the bank's office

[prior]

Try to solve something in the bank without a paper passport.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: prior

Try to solve something in the bank without a paper passport.

And your passport will be taken away after the data is entered into the smartphone?

[prior]

I do not know. Nothing is impossible. But new work books are already only in electronic form.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: prior

But new work books are already only in electronic form.

Well, no one took away the old ones, and in the same pension fund you can always use it.

[nsm1]

Do you know about backups too?
And do you know how they are made in banks?
Every day, one remains, and two are immediately transported to different places.
This is not necessarily the case, but a server crash is not so critical, in a cluster it is generally a normal situation.

[prior]

You are considering a peacetime work situation in the absence of force majeure in a separate bank. And I consider it somewhat broader.

[nsm1]

At least the fire is not at all terrible.
The bank may burst, of course, but this is regardless of cards and passports.

[Lipchanin]

Quote: prior

You are considering a peacetime work situation

During the war, no one will care about smartphones

[nsm1]

Aha, and I have a button one!
And no one will force me to buy a smartphone (the button holds the charge for a week).

[Lipchanin]

Quote: nsm1

And no one will force me to buy a smartphone (the button holds the charge for a week).

Moreover, young people all have smartphones and the law is largely imprisoned on them

[vitvit123]

As far as I remember, in addition to the phone, all this information should also be on a plastic card, and in the phone .., this is for convenience, who forgot, etc. plastic ID ...?

[Lipchanin]

Quote: vitvit123

As far as I remember, in addition to the phone, all this information should also be on a plastic card, and in the phone .., this is for convenience, who forgot, etc. plastic ID ...?

Yes, they started panic out of the blue, it seems like someone forcibly forces

[Don karleone]

It smacks of a global crisis and war, it gets scary when a monkey (USA) has a grenade

[tihonmarine]

This is the 1st Amendment, which guarantees Americans various rights and freedoms, including freedom of speech.

On paper, you can guarantee everything, but in fact, even the insurance policy does not give guarantees.

[vladimirvn]

Google has decided to blackmail Australia. This country will be turned off the search engine if the Australian parliament passes a law that could deprive the IT corporation of a considerable share of its income. Facebook also joined the ultimatum. This is a precedent in world history. From now on, no one knows which next sovereign country the IT giants will present an ultimatum to tomorrow. Is Russia waiting for a similar scenario and how can it respond? Https: //vz.ru/politics/2021/1/24/1081440.html

[nsm1]

So let them turn it off!
Australians will start using Yandex!

[Avior]

Yandex, it seems, will also be turned off in Australia :) The link says that companies must pay to the local electronic media, if users followed the link to the local media page.
Such a clever idea came to the mind of the Australian government.

[Dodikson]

what happens if Yandez doesn't pay?

[Avior]

it says that if the resource itself does not set the amount of payment, then the locals will set it forcibly. Follow the link, read. A very witty law

[Dodikson]

How do the local people plan to take this money if the American court sends it through the forest?
and in Australia they do not hold an account and services?
PS I will answer tomorrow, the night did not sleep my eyes are already cutting. i sleep

[Avior]

I do not know, but where did you get the idea that you will send?
there is a law, if Google agrees to work on it, Google will pay. If you don't agree, it won't work. This is a commercial enterprise, its business, where to work.
If in some region the local authorities take money from you for the delivery of the newspaper, then you simply will not distribute it in this area, this is obvious.

[Avior]

Google has threatened to shut down its search engine across Australia. The threat will be enforced if a law comes into force there, obliging multinational Internet companies to pay local media if the user clicks on links to the pages of publications. If the corporation does not voluntarily determine the amount of deductions, then the price tag will be forcibly set by the arbitrator appointed by the state. ....

Australians are such resourceful people. The whole world froze in anticipation, "Why, was that possible?"

[unaha]

What does blackmail have to do with it? If the company is not satisfied with the operating conditions as a result of the adoption of new laws, it declares this. Nobody cancels the alternative.

[Dodikson]

if it closes access to a service that the country has not prohibited, then this is exactly blackmail.
Now, if Australia, like China, blocked a googel for non-compliance with the law, this is one thing. and so this is blackmailing googel

[unaha]

Those. if the company becomes unprofitable to work in a country due to changes in legislation, should it work at a loss?

[Dodikson]

no, it just won't work there.
but don't block it.
although blocking is the simplest thing than suing Australia for the fact that its citizens climb wherever they were asked.

[unaha]

Well, Google said it would stop providing the service if the law was passed. What are you arguing with? This is pure butting for money. It is not worth attaching politics to it. If you are surprised and outraged that a private company has the audacity to butt the state, it is a common thing in developed countries - a normal dispute between two business entities.
“Earlier, Australian authorities conducted an investigation that found the tech giant“ gets a disproportionate share of its online advertising revenue, although most of the content comes from the media. ”Meanwhile, the news and media industry has been hit hard during the pandemic. that more than 100 local newspapers in Australia were forced to lay off journalists and either close down as advertising revenues fell. "

[Reviews]

What nonsense ...

freedom of speech in the United States is very bad. The largest media and digital information giants allow themselves to produce without trial and investigation what is called "digital mortification" in the modern media world. We are talking about blocking accounts on social networks, banning performances on the air, removing materials from publication.

there was an account on the social network, and then it was gone - “burned down in the digital fire” after the decision of the “digital inquisition”.

So what? The constitution is an element of the state, and not a private shop, which, in fact, are the media and social networks. It's like shouting about "the abolition of freedom of movement" if someone is not allowed to enter a private apartment.

[Dodikson]

social networks have long been equated with the media, and moreover, just the media is NOT a private apartment, it is a public square. because these are PUBLIC editions.

[unaha]

You are greatly confusing concepts. Freedom of speech in the United States is guaranteed by the state i.e. state authorities do not prevent citizens from expressing their opinions (in contrast to the Russian Federation where it is the state that prevents them). No one can force a private company not to set its own rules for using the service. Accordingly, no one interferes with the use of other means of communication with their own rules.

[Dodikson]

once again for the gifted - the media are not ordinary citizens. this is the media.

[unaha]

"The media are not ordinary citizens. They are the media" - why project Russian local notions onto the rest of the world?

[Dodikson]

learn materiel and do not dishonor.
with your fiasco, as soon as you do not try to wriggle out.
take the abbreviation "media" and decode it.
cope with such a difficult task for you?

[unaha]

Do you put some sacred meaning into the concept of media? Perhaps you are not aware that there are no state-owned media in the United States, and private ones usually express the point of view of the owners?

[Dodikson]

Are you aware that even private media must first obtain permits and any accreditation?
and in return they are cherished, protected and given access.

[unaha]

What permission should a company developing a social network, messenger or cloud service obtain? Once again - do not project the legislation of the Russian Federation onto the other world.

[Dodikson]

social media permission and registration, and the cloud service is not media. he does not spread news.

[unaha]

So far, this is more likely Trump's wishlist. Although it is likely that in the future in the US social networks will be equated with the media. Too powerful tool of influence.

[Reviews]

Quote: unaha

there is no state media in the USA

Hehe ... :)
https://www.stripes.com/

But this is, of course, a niggle.

[Reviews]

Quote: Dodikson

social networks have long been equated with the media, and moreover, just the media is NOT a private apartment, it is a public square. because these are PUBLIC editions.

Stop talking nonsense.

[Dodikson]

stop carrying it yourself.
You are stupidly trying to justify your customer.
I remember you and I remember that you are an ordinary bot.

[Reviews]

Quote: Dodikson

You are stupidly trying to justify your customer.

Well, I said you were delusional. :)

[Dodikson]

You will tell this to your curator, and I remember you when you just appeared here. moreover, not one but with other accounts.

[Reviews]

Quote: Dodikson

to your curator
not alone but with other accounts.

Fig, behold, you are buggy. :) Would you tie up with drugs ...

[A. Privalov]

For ten years he told us how the dollar will collapse not today or tomorrow.
After that, does anyone else believe him?

[nsm1]

And now the Americans are telling us the same thing.
Not all at once.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: nsm1

And now the Americans are telling us the same thing.
Not all at once.

"Blessed is he who believes. Warmth to him in the world!" (C)

[nsm1]

Why believe?
Let's wait, no questions asked ...
The United States is clearly losing ground.
And that cannot be changed.

[rocket757]

Dermocracy has come to the apogee of the "triumph of dermocracy" !!!
Someone did not understand this yet ???

[NF68]

All in the name of the triumph of the true and only "correct" democracy.

[Jaromir]

Events in the US information environment called "digital inquisition"

American Democracy in Action

[Jaromir]

1st Amendment, which guarantees Americans various rights and freedoms, including freedom of speech.

I don’t remember when the first amendment worked in the states ...

[Jaromir]

The largest media and digital information giants allow themselves without trial and investigation to produce what in the modern media world is called "digital mortification"

As the saying goes: Who owns the information ... he is free to do as he pleases.

[Jaromir]

The Western press says that the West has not seen anything like it for many centuries. One expert compares this kind of persecution of free speech to the days of the Inquisition in Medieval Europe. Then books and people who were declared heretics burned at the stake

This expert is cheating. 90 years ago, in the very center of Europe, Germany, bookfires burned. And then there were concentration camps ...

[Jaromir]

There is no freedom of speech in the USA today

What does today mean? There has never been freedom of speech in the USA!