The sixth minesweeper "Pyotr Ilyichev" of project 12700 "Alexandrite" is removed from the shop

The sixth mine defense ship (minesweeper) "Pyotr Ilyichev" of project 12700 "Alexandrite" has been withdrawn from the shop of the Sredne-Nevsky shipyard. This was reported by the SNSZ press service.

According to the report, the company's specialists completed work on the formation of the hull and part of the ship's superstructure, carried out work on their saturation with systems and mechanisms. All further outfitting work will be carried out outside the workshop.

Now the plant's specialists have to install the second tier of the superstructure, carry out the installation of the tower-mast device, antenna equipment and general ship systems, after which the ship will be launched. According to SNSZ plans, the minesweeper will be launched in February 2021.

Pyotr Ilyichev is the sixth Project 12700 Alexandrite minesweeper, laid down at the Sredne-Nevsky shipyard in July 2018. The transfer of the minesweeper to the customer is scheduled for the summer of 2021; the ship will become part of the Pacific Fleet.

By order of the Commander-in-Chief of the Navy, during the laying down of the ship, the name "Pyotr Ilyichev" was given in honor of the Hero of the Soviet Union, Red Navy sailor of the Pacific Fleet Pyotr Ivanovich Ilyichev, who closed the embrasure of the Japanese bunker on August 18, 1945, during the Kuril operation in the battles for the Shumshu Island.

Project 12700 minesweepers are capable of using the latest hydroacoustic stations located both on the ship itself and on remote-controlled and autonomous underwater vehicles, and have an automated mine action control system. They are also capable of using traditional trawling weapons.

Comments

[svp67]

Well done, keep it up.

[Machito]

Quote: svp67

Well done, keep it up.

Certainly great. At least minesweepers are mass-produced. Although the authors of VO, specializing in naval topics, have already criticized the project 12700 to smithereens. I hope that later it will be possible to modernize them and turn them into real combat units, and not, as now, into ceremonial toys.

[venik]

Quote: Bearded

Although the authors of VO, specializing in naval topics, have already criticized the project 12700 to smithereens.

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And since when, "authors on VO" - are "ultimate truth"???
PS There are some "authors" - sometimes such "blunders"publish .... Mom - do not cry !!!

[Machito]

I read the correspondence between Maxim Klimov and his colleagues at the Power of Russia forum regarding torpedo armament and 12700, and somehow it became completely alarming. This is not a Military Reception on TV to watch. Hooray patriotism is fun. And men really risk their heads so that we have combat-ready weapons. Rospil will be worse than the Americans.

[Alien From]

The reality is even worse ... plus for you!

[g1v2]

These authors are, to put it mildly, biased. And some are hard at knives with the hands of our Navy. Pt poop-throwing and finger-picking in any fleet problem is common. As a matter of fact, Alexandrite is primarily a platform. They will be built in series for many years. The set of equipment will change from series to series. That is, 12700 years from now, in 15, they will probably be very different in terms of filling from the modern 2nd series. I'm not even talking about the fact that the first series is generally with a French unmanned boat and partial filling. Alexandrite is a project that we can build for a couple of decades and replace it with a zoo of a large number of mismatched and obsolete minesweepers. Just for replacement, we need about 40 pieces, which was announced in due time by the commander-in-chief. Now 4 are in service, 2 are due to be commissioned this year, a couple more are under construction. Plus, 4 more have been contracted, in total 12 - the purely most mine-hazardous directions (Black Sea Fleet and Pacific Fleet) to close, plus two each in the Baltic Sea Fleet and the Northern Fleet. I think the next contract will be signed in 22.

[Machito]

Are you talking about the fact that Klimov is drowning for Dagestan? It's not obvious at all. And the fact that he is worried about the combat effectiveness of the fleet is indisputable.

[antivirus]

there is no Russian fleet without AB.
I'm waiting for the minuses from all moremans.
according to GAU there were a lot from experts - there is nothing new, and there is no point in putting old stuff

[hirurg]

Great news, of course. Moreover, minesweepers are now made from composite, non-magnetic materials. According to some reports, Russia is in the forefront here as well. At least in terms of displacement.
Taking into account the recently conducted NATO exercises with the laying of mines from the air in the Baltic, this is a significant strengthening of the fleet. Fine. I am glad.

[venik]

Quote: hirurg

Moreover, minesweepers are now made of composite, non-magnetic materials. According to some reports, Russia is in the forefront here as well.

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Well, it’s not quite true! Although the minesweepers were made of fiberglass, we started building back in 1964 (project 1252 "Izumrud"), but only 3 of them were built, and the displacement was small ..... The next series (project 1265 "Yakhont") had to be built made of wood, due to technological problems - outdated equipment) .....
Today, the problem of technology and equipment, in general, has been resolved, and not only composite hulls are being built, but also superstructures for corvettes - also composite (based on fiberglass)! So that today in this area, we if and "not ahead of the rest", then at least - for sure far from the last ranks! It is a fact!!!
In short: We can!

[frog]

In short: We can!

Shaw is mogem? Build a composite trough? This is not quite a trawler, and the constructed building is depressing. I don’t know how they are molded now, but the first one delivered.
But with the filling, everything is sad there, if not to say obscenities (but I don't want to upset the moderator)))

[venik]

Quote: frog

I don’t know how they are molded now, but the first one delivered.

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And you can be more specific: WHO delivered? What did you deliver? Where did you deliver it?
And then some (sorry!) "Compost" turns out!
Although I was taught the Russian language (by age - well, I just can't be a "victim of the exam!), But to understand your" pearls "- somehow it does not work!

[frog]

Sorry))) lurkoyaz, what would it be ...
I will not read a lecture on composite dishbuilding here, so sorry)) Razi that in a personal. And so .... Judging by the official pictures, they sculpted it like metal. What is absurdity in a cube. Or generally to the nth power. It's like casting bricks from concrete, and then building a house out of them. Moreover, the bricks are immediately insulated ...

[venik]

Quote: frog

Sorry))) lurkoyaz, what would it be ...

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Quote: frog

I will not read a lecture on composite dishbuilding here, so sorry)) Razi that in a personal.

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Well, in a "personal", so in a "personal" .... Only if without a "give a damn" !!

[frog]

Yes, it's easy, especially since it's not a fenya at all)))

[Machito]

The filling is there - up to the first or second Defender and to the bottom. There is not even a pressure chamber for decompression of divers.
But at least something is better than nothing.

[frog]

Sorry, but there is practically no filling there, from the PMO point of view. And why then is it better ?? How to use a breaker?

[Machito]

Well, he will definitely defuse three modern mines. On the first, a mine detector drone will be blown up due to its size and electromagnetic field. On the second, an unmanned boat will blow up. Well, the third is for the minesweeper. You can also try to start the divers if they bring the pressure chamber on board with them.

[frog]

He does not have a boat)) And there are problems with the drone ...

[Vadim237]

For that there is a GUGI.

[Real Pilot]

And this is a truly unique ship!

To construct a body of this size from monolithic glass-plastic (by the method of vacuum infusion) is a great technological achievement and a most difficult engineering task. A whole 61 meters of hi-tech ... This is a world record holder, by the way!
And for the minesweeper, a non-metallic hull is the key to survival and successful work for its intended purpose. Non-magnetic.
Yes, fiberglass hulls were already created in the 60s in the USSR, but less and a little.

So our shipbuilding industry is alive, development is going on step by step. New technologies are being introduced, specialists are being trained ...
In general, this is a strengthening of the Navy, which is very encouraging!

[Machito]

I agree with you that the ship's hull is amazing, although there are questions about the design. And when will the hull be tested for durability to explosions of underwater mines, at least 50 meters from the ship? Then, when will the mines be removed?

[WingCat]

Who in the know are going to modernize them?

[Escobar]

And why "maybe there will be no war"

[ZEMCH]

Hello Pash! I look minus))) You are all right, as always, we think about the past and prepare for yesterday's war!

[Vadim237]

They are already quite coping with their functions, they are already looking for old mines, ships and are engaged in demining.

[lucul]

Who in the know are going to modernize them?

Why not ? ))))
Frequent practice.

[venik]

Quote: WingCat

Who in the know are going to modernize them?

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WHOM? Minesweepers? They are "new" !? The series is not over yet!
But the equipment - YES! So far, some of the underwater unmanned aerial vehicles are Swiss (yes, yes!): A landlocked country is a recognized world leader in the development and production of underwater robotic demining systems (!!! ) ..... Madhouse !!!
But now domestic firms seem to have succeeded, and in the future, like Alexandrita, they will have completely domestic equipment.

[Machito]

Our drone has been frozen since 2008. And the French unmanned boat has poor seaworthiness. Alexandrite has a whole lot of opportunities to import substitution of its equipment in the future.

[WingCat]

It's just that the second contract is just around the corner, and the combat effectiveness is so-so. So it is interesting who knows.

[seregin-s1]

Do you have information about combat effectiveness?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: seregin-s1

Do you have information about combat effectiveness?

Apparently, Klimov has already published the corresponding article.

[seregin-s1]

Klimov read not respect yourself!

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: seregin-s1

Klimov read not respect yourself!

The local contingent does not recognize other authorities in the field of military shipbuilding. Or just doesn't know.

[Machito]

Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich

Quote: seregin-s1

Klimov read not respect yourself!

The local contingent does not recognize other authorities in the field of military shipbuilding. Or just doesn't know.

Write an article and reasonably refute Klimov. What is the problem? No information to dispute?

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Bearded

Write an article and reasonably refute Klimov. What is the problem? No information to dispute?

Indicate where I refute Klimov, or throw myself into an argument.

[Machito]

You write that VO readers do not know other authorities besides Klimov. Throw a link, enlighten. Maybe Maxim is rubbing us glasses? By the way, he deals with the topic of torpedo weapons and IGOs.

[lucul]

Write an article and reasonably refute Klimov. What is the problem? No information to dispute?

Klimov was kicked out from all sites on the Runet, if anything, from all of them. Here he is published thanks to the patronage of Timokhin.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: lucul

Klimov was kicked out from all sites on the Runet, if anything, from all of them.

For what, if not a secret?
I looked on the Internet, nothing at all. I only know that it was not quoted by anyone at all on the BMPD.

[lucul]

For what, if not a secret?

All-pervading.

[bayard]

Quote: lucul

All-pervading.

Yes, now in honor only laudatory odes to ships that have no analogues, which do not exist, but there are pictures. When the demand (from the authorities) is only for victorious fanfare, thoughtful, critical and reasoned music is not interesting for the officials.
There is a popular saying: "A pessimist, he is a well-informed optimist." But a conversation with a competent and well-informed person is much more interesting, useful and informative than with the duty and staff troubadour.
Before the RYAV, there were also many parades, enthusiastic plans and fiery promises ... But those who criticized the thoughtless, incompetent, and sometimes just stupid and sabotage plans to build the Fleet were right ... Tsushima put everything in its place.

Klimov is an author for those who are able to THINK.

[lucul]

Yes, now in honor only laudatory odes to ships that have no analogues, which do not exist, but there are pictures. When the demand (from the authorities) is only for victorious fanfare, thoughtful, critical and reasoned music is not interesting for the officials.

Interestingly, what would Klimov write (if he was allowed), if he were in 1941, in October, in Moscow, say? ))))
The same strong truth-womb, about "everything is gone", about Stalin's "bloody regime", which must be urgently overthrown, otherwise Hitler will not be defeated?
I even see what an unplowed field for creativity would have been for him in 1941. I would also raise the morale of soldiers and sailors with my articles))))
All is well in place ...

[Artyom Karagodin]

Is he calling for the overthrow of the current regime? I have not seen in his materials a single hint of this, but only the desire to deal with the mess in the fleet, which, frankly, is enough. What's wrong with that? And if you personally have come across calls for the overthrow of the government, then please be specific about the barrel, and not silly maxims about "how would he behave in ...". If only my grandmother had something and a beard, then there would be a grandfather, as you know.

And where is the comparison with the fall of 1941? So, for the catchphrase?

[bayard]

Do you think that troubadours cheer up?
Do you really think that all this cracking is for "mobilization and rallying"?
Alas.
Everything is much simpler and sadder - it is a smoke screen to distract attention and hide things that are glaring.
Any specialist will confirm this to you.
I hope that you really sincerely trusted and imbued with propaganda.
But it will pass.
I hope in your case - to "Tsushima".

A number of general designers and developers of domestic military equipment are in solidarity with Klimov.
Think about it and be more critical of information.
This will help.

[Alien From]

Sorry, but you are naturally delusional!

[frog]

Moreover, if I don't confuse anything, not entirely from here ...

[Artyom Karagodin]

Pass, comrade, Bayard!

[bayard]

I am very glad that Klimov finally got out of depression (at least it seemed to me) and again pleases me with good and very useful articles.

[Artyom Karagodin]

I agree. But here's what just amazes me. Our "pink ponies", as respected A. Timokhin calls them, do not see the main thing in the materials that Klimov, that Timokhin - it always says that we are quite capable of rectifying the situation in the very near future. And it is even noted exactly how (without pretensions to one's own infallibility). What kind of "all prophecy" is there ?! But "Military acceptance" competently brainwashes people!

[bayard]

"Pink Ponies" - victims of EG and propaganda of jingoistic patriotism. But there are quite a few and quite professional trolls who hounded Klimov and Timokhin on other resources, and migrated here. These troll not on the merits of the issue, but cling to reservations or inaccurate wording, but blabber the topic and clog the forums with their bile.
In fact, they have absolutely nothing to argue with.
And for common sense and the security of the Motherland, we must fight.

[Artyom Karagodin]

Amen comrade (I hope ) Bayard!

[bayard]

Quote: Artyom Karagodin

comrade (hopefully) Bayard!

Comrade.

[Artyom Karagodin]

As you wish!

[Vladimir1155]

Quote: lucul

Klimov was kicked out from all sites on the Runet, if anything, from all of them. Here he is published thanks to the patronage of Timokhin.

tell me, what if he was kicked out for the truth? if you do not like his articles, then write specifically in what he is wrong, but for now I see that he is right, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh3k0qEFVk0

[A_Lex]

tell me, what if he was kicked out for the truth?

Above, they clearly said what they kicked out for. For the lack of uncompromising optimism. Those. for the lack of faith in an unconditionally bright future. You see, when the dynamics in numbers and facts develops into an ambiguous tendency, only sincere faith, the unconditionality of which does not always correlate with the truth, can help to joyfully look into the future. Therefore, if the task is set to joyfully look into the future, but the truth interferes with this, then for the sake of fulfilling your duty you need to overcome yourself. As you know, telling the truth is easy and pleasant. Is it joyful and confident to lie, do you think that it is also easy and pleasant? Probably much more difficult. Not everyone will be able to handle such a responsible mission. And this, mind you, without any sarcasm.

[Machito]

Quote: vladimir1155

Quote: lucul

Klimov was kicked out from all sites on the Runet, if anything, from all of them. Here he is published thanks to the patronage of Timokhin.

tell me, what if he was kicked out for the truth? if you do not like his articles, then write specifically in what he is wrong, but for now I see that he is right, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rh3k0qEFVk0

He was most likely kicked out for the truth. For too many, he steps on corns, and money loves silence.

[Machito]

Quote: lucul

Write an article and reasonably refute Klimov. What is the problem? No information to dispute?

Klimov was kicked out from all sites on the Runet, if anything, from all of them. Here he is published thanks to the patronage of Timokhin.

It is strange that Klimov was not killed at all. In the 90s, it would have been killed long ago. Too many people, he interferes with sawing bablishko.

[Vladimir1155]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

local contingent

here I am a local authority, if anything ...... and support Uv Klimov and Timokhin when they burn the truth and respect them for the truth!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BHWYJI1YQwI
and respect for civic position
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R4LEN_v6tYU

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: vladimir1155

here I am a local authority, if anything ...... and support Uv Klimov and Timokhin when they burn the truth and respect them for the truth!

How do you know they are telling the truth? In your opinion, you can only lie about how good everything is?
Have you checked their information? Did you thoroughly study the problem? Weighed all the pros and cons?

[Vladimir1155]

today there was a "star" at the factory, what a terrible marching, they demanded a passport, I and both of my drivers were photographed, and my friend was not allowed in without a passport .... are the diesel engine and gearboxes so important? ..... in general, there is a lot of visibility, how to figure out where the truth is? ... I really am not an expert in mine work and equipment, engine operator, I have to trust Maxim Klimov, from his articles I found out the obvious to a non-specialist. 1 modern minesweepers only 5 per 5 water areas wtch two oceans ... you do not need to be an expert to understand that this is not enough, that there are combat losses 2 on a minesweeper one imported trawling boat, you do not need to be an expert to understand that imported is unreliable, that this alone is not enough, taking into account the possible failure or loss .... the rest can be discussed if you prove that you are to the right of Klimov, I agree, but objectively he is right at least in the above, there is nothing to argue about. In addition, this respected person shows civic courage, writes for the sake of the country trying, this in itself causes respect for me and many, all honest and decent people, people of good will, patriots and specialists associated with the fleet or not connected

[Machito]

Quote: vladimir1155

today there was a "star" at the factory, what a terrible marching, they demanded a passport, I and both of my drivers were photographed, and my friend was not allowed in without a passport .... are the diesel engine and gearboxes so important? ..... in general, there is a lot of visibility, how to figure out where the truth is? ... I really am not an expert in mine work and equipment, engine operator, I have to trust Maxim Klimov, from his articles I found out the obvious to a non-specialist. 1 modern minesweepers only 5 per 5 water areas wtch two oceans ... you do not need to be an expert to understand that this is not enough, that there are combat losses 2 on a minesweeper one imported trawling boat, you do not need to be an expert to understand that imported is unreliable, that this alone is not enough, taking into account the possible failure or loss .... the rest can be discussed if you prove that you are to the right of Klimov, I agree, but objectively he is right at least in the above, there is nothing to argue about. In addition, this respected person shows civic courage, writes for the sake of the country trying, this in itself causes respect for me and many, all honest and decent people, people of good will, patriots and specialists associated with the fleet or not connected

And also imported underwater drones. Moreover, a mine detector is of such a size that its magnetic field will be blown up by the very first modern defender mine. There are only two imported exterminator drones. There is no pressure chamber for divers. And the ship turned out rather big.
Imported suede jacket. Three. (C) Ivan Vasilievich changes his profession.

[antivirus]

no other newspapers ............................................... .................................................. ...................................
and the shift to the right about real units always confuses readers, a doubt creeps in - is it necessary to build with such a lag?

[Asad]

Not at all good at shipbuilding, will superstructures and other equipment be installed in a month?

[Eldorado]

The saturation of the main equipment and weapons will be carried out already on the water.
Launching in February. In a month they will completely prepare the boat for descent.

[Asad]

Thanks for the detailed answer!

[Vladimir1155]

the boat is small, although very necessary

[Eldorado]

Seven feet under the keel!

[Ros 56]

Well, as usual, all the feet he needs under the keel.

[prior]

They rolled out the hull of the minesweeper from the shop and what, is this already a breakthrough?
We, that now we will announce the release of each aircraft, each inflatable boat?
Crushed to the utmost ...

[faiver]

that now we will announce the release of each plane, each inflatable boat?

- Well, I don’t know about inflatable boats, but about the Il-76 or Be-200 airplanes it has been practiced for a long time, piece goods ...

[S. Viktorovich]

A little push up, and minesweepers will appear - seekers that were conceived 40 years ago. It's good that there are new ones.

[faiver]

At the same pace, at least corvettes should be built, I am not talking about frigates ...

[Vladimir1155]

good fellows need more minesweepers! but we need to work in parallel on their search and kill systems, .....

[Ryaruav]

filmed like a straight battleship bismarck

[Lord of the Sith]

The release of warships pleases, keep it up

Russia has an allied army and navy, as well as the Strategic Missile Forces and the Aerospace Forces)))

[Vadim Ananyin]

If you don’t do shit at all, then there will be no shit at all. No experience, technology and everything else. In the 90's, the whole process was overloaded, which you don't like now. Comments should also be adequate!

[aszzz888]

The transfer of the minesweeper to the customer is scheduled for the summer of 2021, the ship will become part of the Pacific Fleet.

Of course, I'm not at all against the transfer according to the plan. But judging by the list of upcoming works, there are deep doubts about the date of commissioning.