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Liberal irritation. License for "educational activities"

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Source: duma.gov.ru


Lectures under strict accountability


The lectures of foreign scientists will be subject to strict censorship, which will lead to the restriction of the freedom of scientific thought and the oppression of any dissent. Approximately such an emotional background was painted by the oppositional public by the bill №1057895-7, officially consolidating the concept of "educational activity". In this not the longest text of the parliamentarians, it seems, all the main fears of Russian liberals are concentrated.

History with licensing of lectures and educational events began on November 18 last year, when several senators and deputies of the State Duma introduced amendments to the Federal Law "On Education in the Russian Federation" for consideration. Among the authors of the bill, one could see the name of the deputy Natalia Poklonskaya, but six days after the presentation of the bill on November 24, she excludes herself from the list of authors.

Unfortunately, in a written appeal to the Chairman of the State Duma Viacheslav Volodin, Deputy Poklonskaya did not explain the reasons for such a turn. Perhaps Natalya Vladimirovna does not agree with the main ideas of the bill, or perhaps there are other reasons for this, not visible at first glance. Be that as it may, among some scientists and defenders of democratic values, there is constant irritation with the legislative initiative.


Source: TsAGI website

The most interesting thing is that in all the critical materials there is practically not a word about the very essence of the bill. For some unknown reason, commentators only talk about the illegal application of the law, not about it. Meanwhile, it will not be superfluous to understand the essence of the initiative.

The main feature of the bill was the term

"Educational activities carried out outside the framework of educational programs, activities aimed at disseminating knowledge, skills, attitudes, values, experience and competence for the purpose of intellectual, spiritual, moral, creative, physical and professional development of a person, to meet his educational needs and interests, and affecting relations regulated by this law ”.

Behind this cumbersome bureaucratic formulation, there is only a harmless definition of a completely peaceful phenomenon of enlightenment. It's simple - if there is a term, it would be very nice to give it an official understanding.

Further, lawmakers regulate what is forbidden to educators.

First, incite all kinds of hatred and promote the superiority or inferiority of citizens on a variety of grounds.

Secondly, it is forbidden to induce actions against the Constitution of the Russian Federation at lectures.

Quite adequate requirements - any activity should be regulated in some way and, in case of violation of the norm, somehow limited. Try in a lecture somewhere at Princeton University to say something obscene to African Americans. In a "primordially democratic" country, they will at least be deprived of a visa for this, or even go to jail. Always and everywhere, the rule of good manners was to be responsible for the words that are intended for the fragile minds of schoolchildren and students.

The subject of indignation


At the beginning of 2021, scientists in Russia unexpectedly turned out to be enemies of the state - this was the reaction of a part of the domestic intellectual elite to the actual adoption by the State Duma of the above amendments.

It's all about addendum 4 to Article 105 of the Law "On Education", which requires lecturers to obtain preliminary opinions before signing contracts with educational organizations. Conclusions on "suitability" for educators are issued by the relevant executive authorities. It is interesting that such a rule does not apply to educational (or educational, you can get confused) services for foreign citizens. This innovation is certainly controversial, but let's take a closer look at it.

Quite a certain norm of reality is the qualification for conducting educational activities. Everyone cannot stand around the corner at the blackboard or hold a seminar on higher mathematics at Moscow State University. To do this, you need to study and study again, to receive qualification categories, academic degrees and titles. In this situation, the state puts certain obstacles to attracting destructive impostors to educational institutions.

By the way, now in universities, teachers have to prove their innocence almost once a semester with police clearance certificates. Why are numerous liberal critics not indignant at this norm? In the end, the Nobel Prize laureate Lev Landau was tried and he was not the only one among the outstanding scientists of the USSR.

The main threat to the authors of the bill was propaganda activities among schoolchildren and students aimed at discrediting the policy pursued in Russia, revising history and undermining the constitutional order. This is especially true for educational events funded from abroad. It is to suppress such attempts that the institution of licensing educational activities is being introduced.


A typical example is required for illustration.

It is no secret that the research activities of some Russian scientists are funded by foreign grants. Historians of the Second World War are very much loved in Germany, where they strongly encourage a very peculiar view of the events of 75 years ago. Several months, or even years, spent in a foreign land, the immature intellect of a historian is capable of assuring the truthfulness of the horrors that Soviet soldiers perpetrated in Nazi Germany. About millions of raped German women, for example.

It is clear what view of the history of the war will be broadcast by such a scientist to his students. But he can also create a scientific school with followers. An example, of course, is exaggerated, but there are such candidate-doctors of history in higher education. Do such "educators" need a license? And if a lecturer invited from abroad arrives with such heresy?

The times are gone


Higher education, along with secondary educational institutions, are no longer the masters of the minds and souls of the younger generation. The days when revolutionary free-thinking roamed among students are long gone. Pandemic reality has shown that in some cases it is quite possible to get by with remote technologies and independent work. At least, officials of ministries and departments speak about this from the stands.

YouTube has become a real scientific mainstream, where various educators, scientists and teachers create truly popular lecture halls for the general public. It is here that the opinion of new generations is formed. Liberal commentators of the new bill simply forget about this or do not want to remember.

Imagine that the disgraced economist, Sergei Guriev, is not given a license to lecture at the Higher School of Economics. The situation, by the way, is more than plausible. Guriev will immediately post his speech on the worldwide network and gather even more viewers. Which, in fact, he does.

Based on this, two main conclusions arise.

First, liberal commentators diligently deduce an all-devouring monster from each new state control procedure. The logic is very simple - if the law can be applied purely hypothetically against free thought, then it will certainly be so.

The second conclusion is that the authorities, unfortunately, are clumsily trying not to overlook the channels of destructive influence on the country. Lawmakers work with old proven methods, forgetting that social progress has already gone very far.

Any serious lecturer who is not licensed to "educate" the Ministry of Education or the Ministry of Science and Higher Education automatically becomes infamous.

And this threatens with millions of views on YouTube.
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  1. Deniska999
    Deniska999 25 January 2021 15: 06
    +7
    On paper, as always, everything is perfect, but on this is how they will actually apply ...
    1. credo
      credo 25 January 2021 15: 16
      -1
      Quote: Deniska999
      On paper, as always, everything is perfect, but on this is how they will actually apply ...

      It is, of course, difficult to analyze amendments to the law that I have not read, but the author's conclusion that the absence of a license in itself is not an obstacle for lecturers of liberal propagandists working for foreign grandees to clog the fragile brains of Russian youth and doubting citizens of a more mature age , has long been confirmed by the prevailing world practice of the Internet trash heap, through which tubs of dirt and lies are poured in relation to countries, governments and just individuals that are unwanted by the Anglo-Saxons.
      State Duma deputies need to discuss such amendments to the laws with knowledgeable people so that the law does not get out of hand.
      1. Machito
        Machito 25 January 2021 15: 24
        +10
        Kolya is from Urengoy. Alternatives. Svidomites did not fall from the sky. This is a long work on reformatting the consciousness and cultural values ​​of the nation. Students first need to learn about traditional imperial values. And then, let the graduate students dig Arkaim and rethink our history.
        Etruscan means Russian. It's a joke, but every joke has a grain of ... joke. hi
        1. A_Lex
          A_Lex 25 January 2021 16: 04
          +10
          Students first need to learn about traditional imperial values.


          The tradition of imperial values ​​lies in the one-man rule of the Emperor, who is infallible. In order to fully restore these values ​​among the people, mass education must be sequestered to the level of a parish school, which is no longer possible at present.
          1. Pilot
            Pilot 25 January 2021 16: 10
            +5
            Quote: A_Lex
            Students first need to learn about traditional imperial values.


            The tradition of imperial values ​​lies in the one-man rule of the Emperor, who is infallible. In order to fully restore these values ​​among the people, mass education must be sequestered to the level of a parish school, which is no longer possible at present.
            So the emperor is fake, and what about infallibility is generally ridiculous ..
          2. lucul
            lucul 25 January 2021 16: 12
            -12%
            The tradition of imperial values ​​lies in the one-man rule of the Emperor, who is infallible.

            I meant the imperial values ​​for the people, as values ​​of life.
            1. aleksejkabanets
              aleksejkabanets 25 January 2021 17: 55
              +18
              Quote: lucul
              I meant the imperial values ​​for the people, as values ​​of life.

              Here, for the people, some values, for the emperor, with his retinue - others. Is it wrong with us today?
              1. lucul
                lucul 25 January 2021 17: 58
                -13%
                Here, for the people, some values, for the emperor, with his retinue - others. Is it wrong with us today?

                Imperialism - she is brought up with mother's milk, she either is, or she is not))))
                1. aleksejkabanets
                  aleksejkabanets 25 January 2021 18: 13
                  +15
                  Quote: lucul
                  Imperialism - she is brought up with mother's milk, they either have it or not))))

                  I look at some of the characters and see that slavery and cretinism are brought up with mother's milk. Do you even understand what an empire is? Are you proposing that Russia live off the robbery of colonies, wage colonial wars? Any "Papuans" to democratize and live at their expense? "Every person should be free and have three slaves," according to Aristotle? Is this in your "Great Civilizational Russian Way"?
                  1. lucul
                    lucul 25 January 2021 18: 22
                    -7
                    Do you even understand what an empire is? Are you proposing that Russia live off the robbery of colonies, wage colonial wars? Any "Papuans" to democratize and live at their expense?

                    Understand )))
                    But you only understand in the sense of the Western paradigm)))
                    1. aleksejkabanets
                      aleksejkabanets 25 January 2021 18: 56
                      +9
                      Quote: lucul
                      Understand )))
                      But you only understand in the sense of the Western paradigm)))

                      "There it is, Mikhalych." Well, enlighten me, do not refuse the courtesy, what is the empire in the "non-Western paradigm"?
                      1. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 25 January 2021 21: 03
                        -3
                        Yes, stupid people in power who misinterpret the law are bad. But after all, every unrighteous decision can be appealed? And bad people are afraid of good laws, against whom these laws are directed!
                      2. bk316
                        bk316 26 January 2021 11: 02
                        -4
                        Well, enlighten me, do not refuse the courtesy, what is the empire in the "non-Western paradigm"?

                        I can enlighten.
                        An empire is a supranational state with a strong, preferably personified central government.
                        All the point, no colonies, no monarchies. And do not confuse the system (slave, feudal, capitalist, socialist ....) and the form of government (monarchy, republic, empire). This is of course taught at school, but you never know ...
                        For example, the USSR under Stalin was in this definition a one hundred percent empire.

                        I argue that only Russia can exist only as an empire, and actually existed 90% of its time.
                      3. A_Lex
                        A_Lex 26 January 2021 14: 06
                        0
                        An empire is a supranational state with a strong, preferably personified central government.


                        What's the idea of ​​an empire? And what is the goal?
                        And as for the "personified central authority". Is it about a strong independent emperor who personally rules, or more about an institutionalized image, like, for example, a monarch in Great Britain or a president in the United States?
                      4. Obliterator
                        Obliterator 27 January 2021 12: 35
                        -2
                        Quote: A_Lex
                        What's the idea of ​​an empire? And what is the goal?
                        And as for the "personified central authority". Is it about a strong independent emperor who personally rules, or more about an institutionalized image, like, for example, a monarch in Great Britain or a president in the United States?

                        The idea is quite understandable - the accumulation of power and wealth, the achievement of world leadership. The main empire can only have this idea, and it does not matter under what sauce it is presented to the public - the building of communism, democracy or the gathering of Slavic peoples under the rule of the Russian Tsar. For Russia, only the type with a strong independent emperor is characteristic.
                      5. A_Lex
                        A_Lex 27 January 2021 12: 47
                        +2
                        The idea is quite clear - the accumulation of power and wealth


                        For what purpose? Power and wealth are not goals in and of themselves.

                        For Russia, only the type with a strong independent emperor is characteristic.


                        Good. The post of the Emperor was taken by a fool or a betrayer. The empire is in danger. What to do?

                        The main empire can only have this idea, and it does not matter under what sauce it is presented to the public - the building of communism, democracy or the gathering of Slavic peoples under the rule of the Russian Tsar.


                        Within the framework of the Republic of Ingushetia, the USSR and the Russian Federation, the average person has a very different life. Those. "sauce" directly determines the life of the public.
                      6. Obliterator
                        Obliterator 27 January 2021 13: 55
                        -2
                        Quote: A_Lex
                        For what purpose? Power and wealth are not goals in and of themselves.

                        In fact, this is precisely the goal of all empires. As the saying goes, it is better to be healthy and rich than poor and sick.
                        Quote: A_Lex
                        Good. The post of the Emperor was taken by a fool or a betrayer. The empire is in danger. What to do?

                        The post of emperor may take, but hardly a traitor. The emperor is all the more convenient for the temporary workers from the democratic republics because he has no reason to betray, since the country is entirely his economy. In principle, he does not need accounts in offshore and foreign banks.
                        Quote: A_Lex
                        Within the framework of the Republic of Ingushetia, the USSR and the Russian Federation, the average person has a very different life. Those. "sauce" directly determines the life of the public.

                        To a much greater extent, the quality of governance in a particular state affects. With a competent policy of the authorities, the population will grow richer under any type of regime.
                      7. A_Lex
                        A_Lex 27 January 2021 14: 40
                        +2
                        it is better to be healthy and rich than poor and sick ... he has no reason to betray ... With a competent policy of the authorities, the population will get richer under any type of regime.


                        Storytellers who ignore reality are uninteresting.
                      8. Obliterator
                        Obliterator 27 January 2021 17: 34
                        -2
                        Quote: A_Lex
                        Storytellers who ignore reality are uninteresting.

                        Substantively to object weakly means ...
                    2. Simargl
                      Simargl 29 January 2021 19: 00
                      0
                      Quote: Obliterator
                      The emperor is all the more convenient for the temporary workers from the democratic republics because he has no reason to betray, since the country is entirely his economy. In principle, he does not need accounts in offshore and foreign banks.
                      Once correlated with ...
                      Quote: bk316
                      For example, the USSR under Stalin was in this definition a one hundred percent empire.
                      ... shed a tear ...
                      And after Stalin, the empire collapsed?
                      Offshore accounts are not needed, but all the descendants of the general secretaries ended up in a foreign country ... strange ...
  2. Dart2027
    Dart2027 25 January 2021 19: 14
    -4
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Here, for the people, some values, for the emperor, with his retinue - others.

    For enemies of the people, the third.
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 25 January 2021 19: 52
      +7
      Quote: Dart2027
      For enemies of the people, the third.

      Who do you consider the enemies of the people?
      1. Dart2027
        Dart2027 25 January 2021 20: 39
        -4
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Who do you consider the enemies of the people?

        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 25 January 2021 20: 45
          +3
          Can't you do it without agitation? I can understand from your commentary on another topic that that woman is an enemy of the people? And our liberals "Kudrino-Chubais" are the people?
          1. Dart2027
            Dart2027 25 January 2021 20: 52
            -5
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            Can't you do it without agitation?

            And what is the obstacle?
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            I can understand from your commentary on another topic that that woman is an enemy of the people?

            Emancipation. If a woman does her own thing, then no, but if she takes part in actions organized by those who want to make a second Ukraine, then she is an enemy, and there is nothing to rassle about.
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            And our liberals "Kudrino-Chubais" are the people?

            Who work for the same for whom and all these protesters. And the consequences of losing the Cold War will eventually end.
          2. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 25 January 2021 21: 35
            +5
            Quote: Dart2027
            Who work for the same for whom and all these protesters. And the consequences of losing the Cold War will eventually end.

            The world, and these performances in particular, are somewhat more complicated than you imagine. You correctly wrote that Navalny and our Kudrino-Chubais feed from the same trough. But didn't you think that the cheese from a mousetrap always goes to the second mouse? I am skeptical about ElMurid, but there is something to think about.
          3. aybolyt678
            aybolyt678 26 January 2021 07: 41
            0
            Quote: aleksejkabanets
            I am skeptical about ElMurid, but there is something to think about.

            It was noted very accurately that there are no social requirements. Some videos show very well-trained young people provocateurs. What is their motivation? for it will be a shame when bankers' henchmen come on the wave of protests against social disregard.
          4. aleksejkabanets
            aleksejkabanets 26 January 2021 09: 51
            +3
            Quote: aybolyt678
            Some videos show very well-trained young people provocateurs. What is their motivation?

            Well, what motivation can provocateurs have? I believe that mercantile interests. Another question is what their owners want. I think that the owners of provocateurs from both sides want aggravation. I believe that those oligarchs who stand behind Navalny and those who stand behind Putin solve their economic issues in this way and negotiate between themselves behind the scenes, and they just try to use people. Navalny promised another high-profile investigative film last Thursday, but has not released it yet. Hence, they are traded.
            Quote: aybolyt678
            for it will be a shame when bankers' henchmen come on the wave of protests against social disregard.

            Yes, and the situation can be as in Ukraine, that is, the power of the oligarchs has increased, nationalists are working in their interests, and the people have lost again. The massacres between protesters and riot police serve this very purpose. If you do not "swing the pendulum to the left," the people will be enslaved even more. I think we need to work in this direction. Something like this.
        2. Dart2027
          Dart2027 26 January 2021 19: 21
          0
          Quote: aleksejkabanets
          The world, and these performances in particular, are somewhat more complicated than you imagine.

          If something looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then this is probably a duck.
        3. Simargl
          Simargl 29 January 2021 19: 03
          0
          Quote: Dart2027
          this is probably the duck.
          Have you heard of convergent evolution?
          And about mimicry?
        4. Dart2027
          Dart2027 29 January 2021 20: 09
          0
          Quote: Simargl
          Have you heard of convergent evolution?

          Only it does not give an absolute similarity.
        5. Simargl
          Simargl 29 January 2021 22: 42
          0
          Quote: Dart2027
          she doesn't give absolute similarities.
          But you must? The main thing is that you believed.
        6. Dart2027
          Dart2027 30 January 2021 06: 32
          0
          Quote: Simargl
          The main thing is that you believe.

          What duck is a duck? So she is a duck.
        7. Simargl
          Simargl 30 January 2021 19: 34
          0
          Quote: Dart2027
          So she is a duck.
          Of course! You believe.
          But you don't even understand that You said ...
          Quote: Dart2027
          probablyand there is a duck.
        8. Dart2027
          Dart2027 30 January 2021 20: 16
          0
          Quote: Simargl
          But you don't even understand what you said ...

          The fact that
          Quote: Dart2027
          If something looks like a duck, swims like a duck and quacks like a duck, then this is probably a duck.
          ? Well, replace the duck with the enemy of the people.
  3. Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 27 January 2021 13: 12
    -3
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Can't you do it without agitation? I can understand from your commentary on another topic that that woman is an enemy of the people? And our liberals "Kudrino-Chubais" are the people?

    Yes, I responsibly declare to you that she is an enemy of the people.
  4. aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 29 January 2021 16: 38
    0
    Quote: Narak-zempo
    Yes, I responsibly declare to you that she is an enemy of the people.

    If your people are grfo-kudrino-chubais, then yes - the enemy.
  • aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 25 January 2021 20: 42
    +5
    Quote: aleksejkabanets
    Here, for the people, some values, for the emperor, with his retinue - others. Is it wrong with us today?

    spiritual bonds for the people, for a retinue or a handful of "elites" material ... dialectics request laughing
    1. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 25 January 2021 20: 49
      +8
      Quote: aybolyt678
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      Here, for the people, some values, for the emperor, with his retinue - others. Is it wrong with us today?

      spiritual bonds for the people, for a retinue or a handful of "elites" material ... dialectics request laughing

      Yes, yes, like there: "It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for a rich man to enter the kingdom of heaven" Gospel of Matthew. Since then, nothing has changed.
      1. indy424
        indy424 27 January 2021 08: 09
        0
        to be honest. there was no camel in nz
        1. aleksejkabanets
          aleksejkabanets 27 January 2021 09: 38
          +2
          Quote: indy424
          to be honest. there was no camel in nz

          Take a look here: https://bible.by/verse/40/19/24/
          1. indy424
            indy424 27 January 2021 12: 12
            +2
            yes, I know, but this is a translation. the Greek “camelos” has two meanings. and much more logical in this case is the rope.
  • Machito
    Machito 25 January 2021 16: 15
    +3
    The emperor is only an instrument of the empire.
    1. A_Lex
      A_Lex 25 January 2021 16: 19
      +8
      The emperor is only an instrument of the empire.


      Tool means object. Who is the subject then? If the people, then this is wrong, because the people have no leverage over the situation. If not the people, then the aristocracy or the oligarchs, which in their noble essence are the same.
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r 25 January 2021 17: 16
        +1
        Quote: A_Lex
        Tool means object.

        Something with your logic, not that! An instrument is an object with which the subject affects the object! For example, Ukraine is an instrument with which the West (subject) influences Russia (object).
        1. A_Lex
          A_Lex 25 January 2021 17: 26
          +5
          An instrument is an object with which the subject affects the object!


          Neither the instrument nor the object has an impact based on personal intent. Therefore, there is no fundamental difference between the tool and the object. The subject, on the other hand, acts in accordance with his own intentions, implementing which he uses the tools that he sees fit. Including objects that can act as tools.

          For example - Ukraine is a tool with which the West (subject) influences Russia (object)


          Hence, of these three the subject, and therefore not the colony, is the West.
          1. neri73-r
            neri73-r 25 January 2021 17: 41
            -4
            Quote: A_Lex
            An instrument is an object with which the subject affects the object!


            Neither the instrument nor the object has an impact based on personal intent. Therefore, there is no fundamental difference between the tool and the object. The subject, on the other hand, acts in accordance with his own intentions, implementing which he uses the tools that he sees fit. Including objects that can act as tools.

            For example - Ukraine is a tool with which the West (subject) influences Russia (object)


            Hence, of these three the subject, and therefore not the colony, is the West.

            Everything is clear with you, you drink. laughing Let me remind you one more rule, it is true already from physics, but it also works in sociology - each force of influence causes a force of reaction! It's about -
            neither the object is influenced based on personal intention.
            hi
            1. A_Lex
              A_Lex 25 January 2021 18: 08
              +2
              Everything is clear with you, you drink


              Rudeness is a typical reaction when there are no arguments on the merits of the question, but the desire to answer is still present.

              the truth is already from physics, but it also works in sociology - each force of influence causes a force of reaction!


              The laws of physics do not apply to society. The laws of physics are therefore called laws, because they are obligatory for everyone and cannot be ignored.
            2. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 25 January 2021 20: 50
              0
              Quote: neri73-r
              Let me remind you one more rule, it is true already from physics, but it also works in sociology - each force of influence causes a force of reaction! It's about -

              Can i ask you? - if my million rubles a year loses 10% of purchasing power (power) and it is redistributed between my million and the newly printed green money, then when will there be opposition? When will the money lost in 30 years of constant inflation return? laughing
              1. Simargl
                Simargl 29 January 2021 19: 08
                +1
                Quote: aybolyt678
                When will the money lost in 30 years of constant inflation return?
                thirty?! She has always been.

                Quote: aybolyt678
                then when will there be opposition?
                If you think that you shine a flashlight on the wall long enough and it should already shine in response ... not soon: continue.
              2. aybolyt678
                aybolyt678 29 January 2021 20: 32
                0
                Quote: Simargl
                thirty?! She has always been.

                and how old are you? belay
                Quote: Simargl
                If you think that you shine a flashlight on the wall long enough and it should already shine in response ... not soon: continue.

                moonlight is the reflected sun ... a bullet spinning in the barrel pushes it slightly to the side ... jumping from a boat to the shore, for some reason you usually don't jump, because the boat goes back from the push smile in fact, the world is gradually accumulating a sum of contradictions that will rupture either the world or the system of relations. The dollar is a factor that breaks the world's financial system. He violated the nature of money, which is an expression of the amount of total labor, and became just instruments of financial war .... And in war, a shield is usually invented for each sword. If only the commanders did not betray
              3. Simargl
                Simargl 29 January 2021 22: 49
                0
                Quote: aybolyt678
                and how old are you?
                Don't worry: I am not immortal. I'm just a little interested in history.

                Quote: aybolyt678
                He violated the nature of money, which is an expression of the amount of total labor, and became simply instruments of financial war ...
                YY! It's like claiming that someone has broken the law of physics. Money, like a tool: you can use it for its intended purpose, or you can hammer nails with a microscope.
  • bk316
    bk316 26 January 2021 11: 10
    -1
    Tool means object. And who then is the subject

    Empire is a form of government.
    Emperor tool.
    There I outlined above a brief modern definition of empire.
    The answer to your question lies in the extended definition, it contains the concept of a pivot group. This is the part of the citizens who bears the main burden in solving the problems of the empire and at the same time determines the directions of the empire's development.
    In the USSR under Stalin, according to the Constitution, it was the AUCPB.
    In Russia, in general, in my opinion, it is the Russian people.
    1. A_Lex
      A_Lex 26 January 2021 14: 19
      +1
      The answer to your question lies in the extended definition, it contains the concept of a pivot group. This is the part of the citizens who bears the main burden in solving the problems of the empire and at the same time determines the directions of the empire's development.
      In the USSR under Stalin, according to the Constitution, it was the AUCPB.
      In Russia, in general, in my opinion, it is the Russian people.


      Why does the core group need the Emperor?
  • Narak-zempo
    Narak-zempo 27 January 2021 13: 20
    -1
    Quote: A_Lex
    Who is the subject then?

    God.
    And the emperor is the anointed of God.
    And therefore there can be only one empire. Once it was Rome, then Byzantium, and then, after its fall, the Moscow Kingdom became the Orthodox Empire. For, as you know, two Romes fell, and the third stands, and the fourth does not exist.
    1. A_Lex
      A_Lex 27 January 2021 13: 26
      0
      And the emperor is the anointed of God.


      And therefore the Emperor is infallible, since he directly fulfills the will. Such an idea will not take off.
      1. Narak-zempo
        Narak-zempo 27 January 2021 13: 28
        0
        Quote: A_Lex
        Such an idea will not take off.

        Take off.
        As a last resort, we will buy out one Falcon Heavy launch if it cannot take off itself laughing
        1. A_Lex
          A_Lex 27 January 2021 14: 10
          0
          we will redeem one launch of Falcon Heavy,


          Stupidity.
          1. Narak-zempo
            Narak-zempo 27 January 2021 14: 46
            0
            Quote: A_Lex
            Stupidity.

            But why? The idea is fundamental, obviously only superheavy will raise laughing wassat
  • aleksejkabanets
    aleksejkabanets 25 January 2021 17: 52
    +12
    Quote: A_Lex
    mass education must be sequestered to the level of a parish school, which is no longer possible at present.

    As much as possible, everything is done in this direction. Eleven years of study, but no knowledge. When asked who Othello was, they climb into Google.
    1. bk316
      bk316 26 January 2021 11: 13
      0
      ... When asked who Othello was, they climb into Google.

      For that, they already in the fourth grade know the oxalis meadow or forest flower.
      In my opinion, neither one nor the other makes a person educated.
    2. Narak-zempo
      Narak-zempo 27 January 2021 13: 23
      +1
      Quote: aleksejkabanets
      When asked who Othello was, they climb into Google.

      If Google. At best, to "Answers Mail.ru".
      And the younger generations do not perceive the smartphone as a source of information at all - stupidly as a device for games.
  • Flooding
    Flooding 26 January 2021 08: 19
    +1
    Quote: A_Lex
    The tradition of imperial values ​​is the one-man rule of the Emperor, who is infallible

    Historians will disagree with you. Read at your leisure https://cyberleninka.ru/article/n/imperiya-kak-forma-gosudarstva-ponyatie-i-priznaki
  • Moore
    Moore 27 January 2021 03: 42
    0
    Quote: A_Lex
    The tradition of imperial values ​​lies in the one-man rule of the Emperor, who is infallible.

    The concept of "imperial values", like the concept of "empire", is much broader and does not depend on the presence / absence of an "emperor".
  • ALARI
    ALARI 25 January 2021 19: 33
    +1
    And why imperial values, and not the values ​​of the primitive communal system? Why are they better? Several decades ago there was such a code of the builder of communism and that he helped in the education of a new person.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 25 January 2021 20: 59
      +3
      Quote: ALARI
      Several decades ago there was such a code of the builder of communism and that he helped in the education of a new person.

      Socialism fell because there was no mechanism for educating the Elite! education, training, control, and shooting the presumptuous "elite" was not. The average Soviet person was brought up normally! But the "elite" turned into a caste of untouchables, in whose hands there was a mechanism for the distribution of material wealth
      1. ALARI
        ALARI 25 January 2021 21: 11
        +4
        I say it is necessary not to write pieces of paper, but to painstakingly raise and promote people who are smart and literate, not loyal ones and relatives. The late USSR is a sinner of this and it does not exist.
        1. Akuzenka
          Akuzenka 26 January 2021 11: 44
          +1
          I say it is necessary not to write pieces of paper, but to painstakingly raise and promote people who are smart and literate, not loyal ones and relatives. The late USSR is a sinner of this and it does not exist.
          Then I found a scythe on a stone. This requires resources, teachers, money. Resources and money, capitalists always feel sorry for the fact that it will not bring quick benefits. The state apparatus also consists of capitalists and the worldview is appropriate. Those countries that have realized this are now in the lead. And the lessons of history, the capitalist, to the light bulb, he needs to "huddle heifers and cut the loot." Unfortunately.
          1. ALARI
            ALARI 26 January 2021 20: 27
            +1
            As long as they realize this, we will be so different (I have the whole society) that I'm afraid we won't need it anymore, unless of course we exist as a community.
            1. Akuzenka
              Akuzenka 27 January 2021 09: 17
              0
              I agree. "Our" capitalists will not have time to realize, or they will get involved in a war that the Russian Federation is not needed, or they will sell the country for the mythical recognition of them and "righteously acquired" by the West.
      2. A_Lex
        A_Lex 26 January 2021 14: 27
        0
        Socialism fell because there was no mechanism for educating the Elite! education, training, control, and shooting the presumptuous "elite" was not.


        If everything is so complicated and uncontrollable with the elite, so maybe the elite is not needed?
        1. aybolyt678
          aybolyt678 26 January 2021 14: 57
          0
          Quote: A_Lex
          so maybe the elite is not needed?

          "Elite" in our case is a self-name, self-promotion of plutocrats. Such an "elite" is really not needed, which is why there were so many people at these rallies. Not because of Navalny.
          The ranks of the Elite must be achieved, it must be brought up, selected. The social function of the elite is to show how to live and die. Elite, this is not the owner of the well, not the Duma functionary, the Elite is a special forces officer covering the body of a child in Beslan!
          1. A_Lex
            A_Lex 26 January 2021 15: 16
            +1
            The elite is a special forces officer covering a child in Beslan with a body!


            Those. an elite is one who faithfully fulfills his duty, even when it requires self-sacrifice. The elite is the one who proves by deed, not by word.
            Such an attitude towards business is incompatible with either capitalism or the consumer society.
            1. aybolyt678
              aybolyt678 26 January 2021 16: 48
              0
              Quote: A_Lex
              Such an attitude towards business is incompatible with either capitalism or the consumer society.

              + of course, but why not compatible with capitalism? if it's an army?
              1. A_Lex
                A_Lex 26 January 2021 17: 18
                +2
                why not compatible with capitalism?


                Because the essence of capitalism is to grab more for yourself, which in turn means sacrificing others. What, in fact, the plutocrats, who have seized the "elite" posts, are doing.

                if it's an army?


                Then the whole society should be in the army. And the commander, who made a mistake, is necessarily shot before the formation.
                1. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 26 January 2021 17: 26
                  0
                  Quote: A_Lex
                  Then the whole society should be in the army.

                  Well, not so categorically, but on the whole we understood each other .... I see another trouble in the fact that our language allows ambiguous interpretations of the terms used.
                2. A_Lex
                  A_Lex 26 January 2021 20: 04
                  +1
                  well, not so categorically


                  You know what? The phrase "not so categorically" has already frankly got out. With the help of this phrase, in principle, any innovations can be rejected and the surrounding fascism can be preserved for a long time to the delight of its beneficiaries. At the same time, if we recall the developed scientific theories, which fully describe reality to such an extent that it becomes possible not only a confident practical result, but also relatively accurate forecasting, then everything is extremely categorical there.

                  allows ambiguous interpretations of the terms used


                  So you don't need any terms. Special terms in sociology only confuse and mislead. The same democracy, for example, is interpreted as he wants. Some unique people regularly remember Ancient Greece as if democracy should be built exclusively on their model.
                3. aybolyt678
                  aybolyt678 27 January 2021 05: 27
                  +1
                  Quote: A_Lex
                  The phrase "not so categorically" has already frankly got out.

                  well, for example about the elite under capitalism. Suvorov, Kutuzov .... isn't it the elite? that they were under communism? when there is a factor uniting the nation - an enemy invasion, what does the social order have to do with it? The elite in politics is another matter. In addition to Stalin and De Gaulle, something else does not come to mind. The political "Elite" is the Elite in quotation marks.
                4. A_Lex
                  A_Lex 27 January 2021 12: 34
                  +1
                  Suvorov, Kutuzov .... isn't it the elite? The elite in politics is another matter.


                  An elite is one who occupies a high position and thus can influence society. In fact, the elite does not have to be a professional, but the elite cannot but occupy a high position. A doctor, a military man, an electrician, a pilot, a cook, who do not occupy high positions - in any case, not the elite, regardless of their degree of professionalism. Elitism is always derived from high office. In the event that there is no absolute guarantee that only those "worthy" in terms of their professional and moral qualities will occupy a high post, such an elite will only harm, because its representatives will use the powers of high posts not to work for society, but for benefiting themselves and their families.
  • lucul
    lucul 25 January 2021 16: 17
    0
    It is, of course, difficult to analyze the amendments to the law that I have not read, but the author's conclusion that the lack of a license in itself is not an obstacle for lecturers of liberal propagandists working for foreign grandees in order to clog the fragile brains of Russian youth

    Well, take Turkey, there, after the failed coup, they uproot EVERYONE who is against the existing government, they clean up the universities in batches. The number of repressed has already exceeded 100.
  • Vend
    Vend 25 January 2021 16: 09
    +3
    Those who need to be licensed are foreign educators, as well as Russian educators who have received training abroad.
    1. lucul
      lucul 25 January 2021 16: 25
      -3
      Those who need to be licensed are foreign educators, as well as Russian educators who have received training abroad.

      I feel as a result of this law there will again be an influx of immigrants to Israel)))
      1. Quadro
        Quadro 25 January 2021 16: 40
        +5
        Quote: lucul
        Those who need to be licensed are foreign educators, as well as Russian educators who have received training abroad.

        I feel as a result of this law there will again be an influx of immigrants to Israel)))

        Do not write nonsense. If they were needed there - already in the process of studying in a foreign land they would be taken to themselves.
        1. lucul
          lucul 25 January 2021 16: 40
          -8
          Do not write nonsense. If they were needed there - already in the process of studying in a foreign land they would be taken to themselves.

          You will see.)))
    2. aleksejkabanets
      aleksejkabanets 25 January 2021 18: 03
      +8
      Quote: Wend
      Those who need to be licensed are foreign educators, as well as Russian educators who have received training abroad.

      On the one hand, it seems to be so, but liberals of all stripes who have received their education abroad will be licensed. Or do you, for some reason, believe that licensing will be carried out by people like Zhores Alferov?
      1. Vend
        Vend 25 January 2021 18: 28
        +2
        Quote: aleksejkabanets
        Quote: Wend
        Those who need to be licensed are foreign educators, as well as Russian educators who have received training abroad.

        On the one hand, it seems to be so, but liberals of all stripes who have received their education abroad will be licensed. Or do you, for some reason, believe that licensing will be carried out by people like Zhores Alferov?

        This is the danger to education.
    3. Antidote
      Antidote 30 January 2021 11: 55
      -1
      According to this "law", any post / video on how someone does something (tying shoelaces, changing the oil in the car, etc., etc.) will be an enlightenment, and therefore subject to licensing. The point is not in the law as such, but in the dimensionlessness of the formulations.
  • Pessimist22
    Pessimist22 25 January 2021 15: 08
    +16
    I wonder if it will be possible to educate people about the class struggle and about the ruling class of the bourgeoisie? Or just to work for his friends and take out slave loans from the banks of his friends?
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 25 January 2021 15: 13
      +12
      What are you, what are you! This is a firing squad!
      The very term "class struggle" demeans the dignity of the exploiting class. And if you dig deeper, you can also find an attempt on the Constitutional system through allusions to the October Revolution.
    2. Thrifty
      Thrifty 25 January 2021 15: 23
      +6
      Pessimist 22 - power suits everything, we are always whining lol like it's not all glory to the Kremlin crying lol , therefore, the National Guard will soon be armed with locks, which they will begin to hang on their mouths en masse, having at least something against the government! !! am
    3. Svarog
      Svarog 25 January 2021 15: 27
      +16
      Quote: Pessimist22
      Interestingly, it will be possible to educate people about the class struggle and about the ruling class of the bourgeoisie

      Education in today's reality is not profitable. The more such enlightened people there are, the more the chair will stagger, under the fifth point in power.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 25 January 2021 15: 35
        +14
        "We need to educate a competent consumer"! good
        Plan "Ost" in action. I am against the revolution, but it seems that the government does not leave people with an alternative. hi
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 25 January 2021 15: 41
          +15
          hi
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          "We need to educate a competent consumer"!
          Plan "Ost" in action. I am against the revolution, but it seems that the government does not leave people with an alternative.

          I am also against revolution and degradation .. But it amazes me that the main "patriot" does not want to do anything useful for the country .. It's time to find our own vector of development, without looking to the West .. we have a colossal positive experience in education .. why change good ... you need to leave the Soviet education. Why, and most importantly why, with such persistence they make the citizens of a country rich and self-sufficient in every respect beggars?
          Why not just take all the best from the USSR and transfer to modern Russia ... the best, which, not in words, but in deeds, proved that it is the best. hi
          1. lucul
            lucul 25 January 2021 16: 02
            -13%
            It's time to find our own vector of development, without looking back to the West .. we have a colossal positive experience in education .. why change the good .. we need to leave Soviet education. Why, and most importantly why, with such persistence they make the citizens of a country rich and self-sufficient in every respect beggars?

            Well, the USSR was also looking for its own path of development, and then ran with an outstretched hand to the West.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 25 January 2021 16: 07
              +13
              Quote: lucul
              Well, the USSR was also looking for its own path of development, and then ran with an outstretched hand to the West.

              The elite of the USSR ran with an outstretched hand .. and now she still pulls her handles there ..
              1. lucul
                lucul 25 January 2021 16: 10
                -11%
                The elite of the USSR ran with an outstretched hand ..

                Well, if such an elite ruled an entire people, then what can be said about the people? )))
          2. A_Lex
            A_Lex 25 January 2021 16: 11
            +6
            I am also against revolution and degradation ...
            Why, and most importantly why, with such persistence they make the citizens of the country beggars ...
            Why not just take all the best from the USSR and transfer it to modern Russia ...


            On the one hand, man is against degradation. On the other hand, he also declares a complete lack of understanding of the goals pursued by the regime.
          3. paul3390
            paul3390 25 January 2021 16: 17
            +16
            Why not just take all the best from the USSR and transfer it to modern Russia.

            Because the best in the USSR automatically implies the highest measure of social protection for all Putin's sidekicks, accomplices and nukers .. Without this, alas, nothing can happen .. Nothing better will happen.
          4. lucul
            lucul 25 January 2021 16: 38
            -8
            Why not just take all the best from the USSR and transfer to modern Russia ... the best, which, not in words, but in deeds, proved that it is the best.

            What does not suit me personally in the USSR is egalitarianism, and the common property - no one is responsible for anything - is not mine, I do not mind.
            These two insoluble contradictions of socialism will prevent it from developing.
            On the other hand, what are the biggest disadvantages of capitalism?
            This is an oligarchy and interest on loans - do not let the novice capitalist develop into an oligarch and that's it - the system will be stable. The maximum average capital (the impossibility of creating TNCs), and the limitation of interest on loans - these are the two cornerstones of the country's development under capitalism.
            This is much easier than eliminating the irreparable contradictions of socialism.
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 25 January 2021 16: 43
              +16
              Quote: lucul
              This is much easier than eliminating the irreparable contradictions of socialism.

              I believe that the opposite is true.
              What does not suit me personally in the USSR is egalitarianism, and the common property - no one is responsible for anything - is not mine, I do not mind.

              What exactly was leveling?
              As for the responsibility, it was an order of magnitude higher than it is now.
              And these shortcomings are just removable.
              But the disadvantages of capitalism, alas .. it is impossible to do anything about it.
              1. lucul
                lucul 25 January 2021 16: 54
                -10%
                What exactly was leveling?

                Do you not understand the very concept of egalitarianism? Let me remind you - if you want to live, but if you want to strike, you will still get equalization ...
                Those who have not seen egalitarianism simply did not work in industry.
                But the disadvantages of capitalism, alas .. it is impossible to do anything about it.

                Come on, there would be a desire)))
                1. A_Lex
                  A_Lex 25 January 2021 17: 00
                  +14
                  Let me remind you - if you want to live, but if you want to strike, you will still get equalization ...


                  It's a lie. Salaries did not differ by orders of magnitude, but there was a difference within the same order. Those. against the background of 100 rubles, there were also salaries of 200, 250, 300, 400, etc.

                  common property - no one is responsible for anything - not mine, not sorry.


                  This is also a lie. And this lie is especially clearly manifested in the current, bourgeois reality, when the owner does not care about everything that is not his property.
                  1. lucul
                    lucul 25 January 2021 17: 07
                    -11%
                    It's a lie. Salaries did not differ by orders of magnitude, but there was a difference within the same order. Those. against the background of 100 rubles, there were also salaries of 200, 250, 300, 400, etc.

                    I repeat, everyone who says that there was no leveling, simply did not work in industry.
                    This is also a lie. And this lie is especially clearly manifested in the current, bourgeois reality, when the owner does not care about everything that is not his property.

                    Where did you work ? Or should I chew like for children?
                    1. A_Lex
                      A_Lex 25 January 2021 17: 19
                      +11
                      I repeat, everyone who says that there was no leveling, simply did not work in industry.


                      You can repeat as many times as you like. You regularly broadcast the usual bourgeois propaganda, which is based on lies and nothing else.

                      Or should I chew like for children?


                      You are unable to chew anything. You can only hint at such an ability and actively simulate it. You have nothing to actually confirm your lie. Therefore, there remains only the standard - to distribute without reflecting.
                      1. lucul
                        lucul 25 January 2021 17: 27
                        -12%
                        Therefore, only the standard remains - to distribute without reflecting

                        It just confirms once again that you are not familiar with the production.
                        The efficiency of workers can be compared to a football or hockey team. If everyone works in unison, that is, all forces are applied in one direction, then there will be a result. And when seven with a spoon, and one with a bipod, then there will be no result. There is no incentive for people to work in unison, because there is equalization.
                      2. A_Lex
                        A_Lex 25 January 2021 17: 37
                        +9
                        It just confirms once again that you are not familiar with the production.
                        The efficiency of workers can be compared to a football or hockey team. If everyone works in unison, that is, all forces are applied in one direction, then there will be a result. And when seven with a spoon, and one with a bipod, then there will be no result. There is no incentive for people to work in unison, because there is equalization.


                        Again a lie mixed with inappropriate comparisons, hints and sayings. The specific meaning in your message is exactly 0, since you, of course, have nothing to factually prove your lie with. Therefore, over and over again one has to simply repeat the thesis about "leveling", acting on the principle "the more often a lie is mentioned, the better the lie is remembered."
                      3. lucul
                        lucul 25 January 2021 17: 47
                        -10%
                        Again a lie mixed with inappropriate comparisons, hints and sayings. The specific meaning in your message is exactly 0, since you, of course, have nothing to factually prove your lie with. Therefore, over and over again one has to simply repeat the thesis about "leveling", acting on the principle "the more often a lie is mentioned, the better the lie is remembered."

                        Complete isolation from reality with you)))
                        People like you believe that the USSR collapsed from external influences, not from internal contradictions. If the hard workers were for the USSR, it would still exist.
                      4. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 25 January 2021 18: 23
                        +9
                        Quote: lucul
                        People like you believe that the USSR collapsed from external influences, not from internal contradictions

                        People like us know that those who destroyed the USSR today are building palaces for themselves and talk about what they consider the collapse of the USSR to be "the greatest geopolitical catastrophe."
                      5. lucul
                        lucul 25 January 2021 18: 25
                        -11%
                        People like us know that those who destroyed the USSR today are building palaces for themselves and talk about what they consider the collapse of the USSR to be "the greatest geopolitical catastrophe."

                        Remind me - what's the point of a palace? )))
                      6. aleksejkabanets
                        aleksejkabanets 25 January 2021 18: 58
                        +10
                        Quote: lucul
                        Remind me - what's the point of a palace? )))

                        What are you talking about? What should I remind you?
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 25 January 2021 17: 21
    +2
    Another evil of capitalism is uncontrollable speculation. And it also gives rise to crises of the capsystem.
  • Maki maki
    Maki maki 26 January 2021 11: 52
    +17
    Quote: Svarog
    we have a colossal positive experience in education .. why change the good .. you need to leave the Soviet education

    Educated people are dangerous if the government is rotten.
  • Pereira
    Pereira 25 January 2021 15: 48
    +2
    I am against the revolution, but it seems that the government does not leave an alternative to people.

    On other sites, howl is now. Many are already calling to cripple the shkolota, so that it is discordant.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 25 January 2021 15: 53
      +13
      Quote: Pereira
      I am against the revolution, but it seems that the government does not leave an alternative to people.

      On other sites, howl is now. Many are already calling to cripple the shkolota, so that it is discordant.

      Stupidity is everywhere .. what can I say .. This shkolota, in a couple of years will turn into a voter ..
      The protest will only grow ... if the government does not offer anything to society. But it is clear that apart from not letting go and prohibiting, they are not capable of anything.
      1. lucul
        lucul 25 January 2021 16: 04
        -15%
        The protest will only grow ... if the government does not offer anything to society

        What do you need to offer? $ 1 million each? So the resources are not enough for everyone physically, for such a standard of living.
        Anyone should understand this, if he is not a child in thinking.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 25 January 2021 16: 06
          +16
          Quote: lucul
          What do you need to offer?

          The idea must be proposed and followed by a development plan. The idea is based on social justice.
          1. lucul
            lucul 25 January 2021 16: 09
            -12%
            The idea must be proposed and followed by a development plan. An idea based on social justice

            Do you have such an idea?
            1. Svarog
              Svarog 25 January 2021 16: 14
              +8
              Quote: lucul
              The idea must be proposed and followed by a development plan. An idea based on social justice

              Do you have such an idea?

              Platoshkin has it and I like it.
              1. lucul
                lucul 25 January 2021 16: 19
                -13%
                Platoshkin has it and I like it.

                Platoshkin has his childhood in ... one place.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 25 January 2021 17: 27
                  +10
                  You have nothing in that place either ...
                2. Fan-fan
                  Fan-fan 25 January 2021 18: 15
                  +9
                  And what wrong did Platoshkin do, did he take pensions from the people?
                3. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 25 January 2021 18: 37
                  +9
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  And what wrong did Platoshkin do,

                  He dared to criticize the authorities. request
                4. Svarog
                  Svarog 25 January 2021 19: 18
                  +7
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Quote: Fan-Fan
                  And what wrong did Platoshkin do,

                  He dared to criticize the authorities. request

                  Platoshkin became dangerous precisely for the reason that he tried to make a compromise version of socialism .. at the same time, he created a party, where supporters began to actively join, but most importantly, he began to claim the throne .. and then of course the rower immediately found an article. because he is afraid of competition. A person is many times more erudite and smarter, and even with an idea for society, and not just for "friends" and relatives.
                5. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 25 January 2021 19: 31
                  +6
                  Yes, Volodya, the authorities are afraid of uniting people around leaders who declare a change in the system, and not just the displacement of a handful of thieves at the helm. That is why the West supports Navalny, and even here he is more forgiven.
                  But the country will be saved only by a change in the system, at least according to the Grudinin version (symbiosis of social and capital systems). hi
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 25 January 2021 16: 23
      +6
      Do you have such an idea?

      And yak ... As I already wrote - an alternative system of values, where, in addition to moral values, there are also quite material alternative values ​​.. Something that under no circumstances can be bought for loot. And only to earn it by hard work or heroic deed .. But at the same time - quite tangible and valuable ..
  • paul3390
    paul3390 25 January 2021 16: 20
    +6
    What do you need to offer?

    An alternative system of social and personal values ​​to the dough .. Where, for example, the Hero of the Soviet Union is an order of magnitude more respected, famous and worthy than any millionaire or singing mouth ..
    1. A_Lex
      A_Lex 25 January 2021 16: 27
      +5
      Where, for example, the Hero of the Soviet Union is an order of magnitude more respected, famous and worthy than any millionaire or singing mouth


      They took place in the same USSR, in which, as a result, the singers became idols. If a system of statuses has been created in a society that makes it possible to extract authority and privileges from it, it is impossible to protect this system from the violent attack of balabols and crooks, who thus seek to convert posts and titles into authority and privileges.
      1. paul3390
        paul3390 25 January 2021 16: 32
        +7
        As much as possible. It was just under Khrushchev that the purposeful demolition of the Soviet alternative ideology began. And under Brezhnev, it continued. For it was she who constituted the power of the Stalinist USSR, and without breaking it, it was impossible to prepare for the restoration of capitalism .. And with crooks, you can fight the only way, the active participation of the literate masses in the process of assessing authority. This is exactly what happened during the early Union.
        1. A_Lex
          A_Lex 25 January 2021 16: 44
          +6
          It's just that under Khrushchev, a purposeful scrapping began ... with the active participation of the literate masses


          You contradict yourself. If the system, in which the people are an active participant, is actively broken, and the people do not resist, then the people are not an active participant.

          The system was not broken. It was simply reformatted for themselves by balabolians and crooks, who got to the posts from where they could exert influence. And the masses could not do anything, because they did not have an instrument of influence.
          1. paul3390
            paul3390 25 January 2021 17: 35
            +8
            Naturally. For first, they excluded the active participation of the people in the lower cells. Remember all the films of the Stalinist era - they constantly and stubbornly drummed into everyone that a citizen cannot be indifferent to the injustice that is happening. And as a communist or a Komsomol member - they simply have to go to the end of such questions. Reaching the very top. Remember? This is what taught the people to true democracy. It was the primary cells and councils that constituted the real strength of Soviet power. And after the death of Comrade Stalin - as cut off. Why did it happen? I have repeatedly stated my point of view - the reason for the collapse of the Union in the loss of the Second World War .. When we lost a supercritical number of literate and convinced communists who, being alive, would certainly not have allowed Khrushchev's reaction to occur .. So there was a tool. Alas, there were no people who could use it ..
          2. A_Lex
            A_Lex 25 January 2021 17: 47
            +2
            For first, they excluded the active participation of the people in the lower cells.


            What year was that?

            Remember all the films of the Stalinist era - they constantly and persistently drummed into everyone that a citizen cannot be indifferent to the injustice that is happening.


            What films exactly? Please list at least a few.

            cannot be indifferent to the ongoing injustice


            What do you mean "can not be indifferent"? Does a citizen have to work long and hard to get the problem noticed above, or has the authority to solve it himself below?

            When we lost a supercritical number of literate and committed communists


            It turns out that by the end of the 30s there was already a supercritical number of literate and convinced communists? Why, in this case, the arbitrariness initiated by Yagoda and Yezhov was not suppressed? Why were they not eliminated by literate and convinced communists?
  • ALARI
    ALARI 25 January 2021 19: 45
    +1
    Do not distort, but you can only offer a niche in society according to the mind, education and skills, and not whose sidekick you are, relative, lover, etc. And we do not observe this, the majority did not come out of the palace, but seeing hopelessness and their unnecessaryness.
  • Cron
    Cron 25 January 2021 15: 31
    -8
    Quote: Pessimist22
    I wonder if it will be possible to educate people about the class struggle and about the ruling class of the bourgeoisie? Or just to work for his friends and take out slave loans from the banks of his friends?

    It seems to me that you just need to give a good education and teach you to think critically. Otherwise, everything will slide into banal propaganda. People already have access to almost any information.
    1. Ingvar 72
      Ingvar 72 25 January 2021 15: 41
      +3
      Quote: Cron
      It seems to me that you just need to give a good education and teach you to think critically.

      Then why does education degrade under the power you support? wink what do even government officials admit?
      1. Cron
        Cron 25 January 2021 16: 02
        -5
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Then why does education degrade under the power you support? what do even government officials admit?

        How do you know my views, and all the more to whom do I provide real support? For me personally, any loudmouth criticizing the authorities is not equal at once - high-quality education, etc., as well as power for me is not just a subject of pouring out slops and breeding whining, or vice versa endless praise. For white, I say white, and for black, black. Everywhere has its pros and cons. I just look at what is more at the moment, from one side or the other, personally for my reasons... Someone may fundamentally disagree with me, and that's okay
        1. Ingvar 72
          Ingvar 72 25 January 2021 17: 25
          +9
          Quote: Cron
          How do you know my views, and all the more to whom do I provide real support? For me personally, any loudmouth who criticizes the authorities does not immediately equal

          The authorities' politics are full of holes, but for some reason you always (!) Try to justify them with something. You always get involved in the dialogue on the side of the authorities, no matter what byaka they do. So don’t be flattered! wink
          And from my point of view, you are here at work, like several other "comrades". bully
          PS Is there anything to say about the degradation of education? wink
          1. sniperino
            sniperino 25 January 2021 17: 35
            -7
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            The government's politics are full of holes, but for some reason you always (!) Try to justify them with something
            Go to the mirror with this text and read
            The authorities' politics are full of successes, but for some reason you are always (!) Trying to screw them up with something
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 25 January 2021 17: 47
              +8
              And you're at work! good And a little man with an avatar of Beria, but with pronounced Zaputin views.
              Guys, would you even share how much they are paying for your hard work now? wink
              PS The list of successes with the list of failures is weak to compare? According to the results?
              1. sniperino
                sniperino 25 January 2021 17: 48
                -11%
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                Would you share how much is being paid now for your hard work?
                You never dreamed so much. Locked up with their greedy employer.
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 25 January 2021 17: 55
                  +8
                  Then it is understandable why life is getting harder and harder every year. Naturally, if you increase the rating with the help of people like you, and the purchase of votes (during the election of the governor of the Samara region, the United Russia paid 500 rubles to sign the intention to vote for the candidate from the United Russia.) I dare to remind you that the state has no other money except taxpayer money.
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          2. Cron
            Cron 25 January 2021 17: 55
            -2
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            The authorities' politics are full of holes, but for some reason you always (!) Try to justify them with something. You always get involved in the dialogue on the side of the authorities, no matter what byaka they do. So don’t be flattered!

            Come on, come on. Maybe it is specifically here on the site such a bias. It's just that they pour a lot of slop here and without me, I just try to look at some things from a different angle. If you noticed I have the same bias in the USSR. But this does not mean that I am some kind of anti-communist there, I do not recognize the positive things that have been achieved with this system, etc. And not just some things, there were really huge achievements. And I would be in the forefront for the preservation of the Union in the 90s, just the age was not quite the same then. And he would have been for reforms, only without any collapse, restructuring, etc.
            And from my point of view, you are here at work, like several other "comrades". bully

            Of course, I get 15 rubles. per comment. Anyone who has a different opinion gets paid. It is obvious. As one figure said there: these are the machinations of the Nashists.
            But the more correct version would be that I'm just working from home and for some reason I'm distracted by scribbling on this site. Maybe it's time to stop and do something more useful.) Most likely it is.
            PS Is there anything to say about the degradation of education? wink

            What specifically interests you? For example, I don't like the exam. In general, I think that this area remains extremely underfunded.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 25 January 2021 18: 05
              +10
              Quote: Cron
              For example, I don't like the exam. In general, I think that this area remains extremely underfunded.

              As you can imagine, it didn't start yesterday. The failure of the education reform was clear already ten years ago, but for some reason everything remains the same, contrary to the laws of logic. Why? After all, when you realize that you are going in the wrong direction, the only correct decision is to go back to the point of choosing the direction of movement. Why does the government, which for several years have recognized the flawed education reform, continues to follow the wrong path?
              But you can have absolutely the same claims on health care reform. And a lot for some other industries.
              But for some reason the mice prick, but continue to eat the cactus. So maybe the goals are?
          3. Cron
            Cron 25 January 2021 18: 02
            -6
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            And from my point of view, you are here at work, like several other "comrades".

            And where should you go and where to get money? So that, for sure, the time does not pass in vain, but at least brings some benefit
            1. sniperino
              sniperino 25 January 2021 20: 49
              -3
              Quote: Cron
              where to get money?
              drinks
          4. A_Lex
            A_Lex 25 January 2021 20: 09
            +4
            And from my point of view, you are here at work, like several other "comrades".


            It is not excluded. But this is not an argument. Because it is in no way possible to prove this in each specific case, regardless of what is known about the existence of such a practice. Whereas the inadequacy of the stated point of view is easily revealed both by errors in the logic of reasoning, and by the inconsistency of the point of view with the real state of affairs.

            The key problem is not that, for some reason, someone "supports the authorities." The key problem is that society allows an inadequate point of view to exist. I ask you to note that it allows the existence of a non-alternative point of view, i.e. one that, albeit partially, but correlates with reality, but one that, in principle, does not correspond to reality.

            Those. society is brazenly lying right in the face, which means that they are actually openly rude, since a lie is at least disrespect, and at most an attempt, and society perceives this as a "point of view that has the right to exist, like any point of view" Generally idiocy.
            1. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 25 January 2021 21: 28
              +4
              It's nice to read the comments of smart people, although I don't always agree with you. hi
    2. Pereira
      Pereira 25 January 2021 15: 46
      +3
      It seems to me that you just need to give a good education and teach you to think critically.

      It's impossible. Then the authorities will not be able to manipulate us.
      1. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 25 January 2021 15: 57
        +3
        Quote: Pereira
        Then the authorities will not be able to manipulate us.

        Yes, just watch Gref's speech.
    3. lucul
      lucul 25 January 2021 16: 05
      -1
      It seems to me that you just need to give a good education and teach you to think critically.

      For a start - to clean the universities from the foreign agents of the teachers.
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 25 January 2021 16: 15
        +5
        It would be good. Only who will clean? Here commissars are needed. Where can I find people, where can I get the evaluation criteria?
        1. lucul
          lucul 25 January 2021 16: 20
          -3
          It would be good. Only who will clean? Here commissars are needed. Where can I find people, where can I get the evaluation criteria?

          Look at Turkey, how Gulen's followers are being cleaned up there in universities and throughout the entire vertical of power. They don't chew snot.
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 25 January 2021 16: 25
            +4
            There is a command to the special services to clean up from Erdogan's side.
            Who in Russia will give an order to clean up the Sobchakites - Chubais, Gref, Kudrin, Miller and others? What is your last name?
            1. lucul
              lucul 25 January 2021 16: 27
              -3
              Who in Russia will give an order to clean up the Sobchakites - Chubais, Gref, Kudrin, Miller and others? What is your last name?

              Recently, one "untouchable" minister was imprisoned there, have you forgotten?
              1. Pereira
                Pereira 25 January 2021 16: 57
                +6
                Are you talking about Ulyukaev? Do you think this is enough for the health of the country?
                1. lucul
                  lucul 25 January 2021 16: 59
                  -5
                  Are you talking about Ulyukaev? Do you think this is enough for the health of the country?

                  A path that is thousands of steps long, always starts with the first step ...
                  1. Pereira
                    Pereira 25 January 2021 17: 00
                    +5
                    Until the next step takes place, many of the walkers will either die of old age or twist to the side.
                    Chubais is no longer in business.
                    1. lucul
                      lucul 25 January 2021 17: 10
                      -5
                      Until the next step takes place, many of the walkers will either die of old age or twist to the side.
                      Chubais is no longer in business.

                      Let's see, everything will depend on the state of relations with amers, worsening even more - there will be landings.
                    2. Pereira
                      Pereira 25 January 2021 18: 22
                      +7
                      Landing whom? Do you hope that due to a decrease in the food supply, the number of eaters will decrease for the cannibal?
                2. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 25 January 2021 18: 21
                  +6
                  Quote: lucul
                  always starts with the first step ...

                  Yes, if it is a path, not a step forward and two steps back.
            2. The eye of the crying
              The eye of the crying 26 January 2021 01: 17
              0
              Quote: lucul
              Recently, one "untouchable" minister was imprisoned there, have you forgotten?


              "Recently"? It was 3-4 years ago (depending on how you count).

              Quote: lucul
              A path that is thousands of steps long, always starts with the first step ...


              The path will take only 3-4 thousand years smile
  • BAI
    BAI 25 January 2021 15: 17
    +13
    Lectures by foreign scholars will be subject to strict censorship,

    Do not confuse scientists and employees of foreign (in particular, American) embassies. They have become insolent to the point that they set their own conditions - there should be no representatives of the Russian authorities at the lecture. Those. they can broadcast whatever they want to students, absolutely uncontrollably. And this lecture will clearly not be about love for Russia. Can anyone imagine that Russian embassy officials are giving anti-American lectures at US universities?
    And scientists are also different. Brzezinski is a well-known, so to speak, scientist, political scientist. It is not hard to guess what he would broadcast to Russian students if given the opportunity.
    The law was very late.
  • orcinus
    orcinus 25 January 2021 15: 18
    +4
    It is immediately evident that the authors of such a law do not understand a centimeter in the education system or simply pretend to be a "good goal". Insanity grows stronger. I will not delve into the options when, under the cover of this law, they will free up places in universities under "their own", how it will be possible to keep especially "competent" young people on a short leash with principled teachers who give "bad." on exams, etc. I have a different question: what will they do with social networks, where absolutely any lecture is freely available? Or the next "life hack" blocking segments in the same YouTube, as in some countries of the "people's democracy"?
    1. Pereira
      Pereira 25 January 2021 16: 26
      +2
      Here. You have already thought of everything for them.
  • Thrifty
    Thrifty 25 January 2021 15: 20
    +11
    Throw at least a hundred minuses at me, but in Russia it is necessary to ban the exam, return to the Soviet education system, or we will definitely become a third-rate, semi-scientific and semi-literate country!
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 25 January 2021 15: 25
      +7
      Quote: Thrifty
      Throw at least a hundred minuses at me, but in Russia it is necessary to ban the exam, return to the Soviet education system, or we will definitely become a third-rate, semi-scientific and semi-literate country!

      Why is there a hundred cons? I would also add a planned economy and social justice. And also the nationalization of the largest enterprises and those related to raw materials and energy.
      1. GTYCBJYTH2021
        GTYCBJYTH2021 25 January 2021 15: 40
        -1
        Quote: Svarog
        Quote: Thrifty
        Throw at least a hundred minuses at me, but in Russia it is necessary to ban the exam, return to the Soviet education system, or we will definitely become a third-rate, semi-scientific and semi-literate country!

        Why is there a hundred cons? I would also add a planned economy and social justice. And also the nationalization of the largest enterprises and those related to raw materials and energy.

        Adding your interesting good , but who will be the main NATIONALIZER, who will be able to convince the PEOPLE that they are right, who will be able to become a leader?
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 25 January 2021 15: 47
          +6
          Quote: GTYCBJYTH2021
          Your addition is interesting, but who will be the main NATIONALIZER, who can convince the PEOPLE that they are right, who can become a leader?

          Many can become leaders ... in theory. The same Platoshkin, with his own program, could be a leader. But definitely, the leader should be a person with leftist views. And I think that the natural heritage of the country needs to be nationalized, the people will not have to be convinced.
          There is one problem, the rower cannot be taken away from the oars, and the oligarchs, of course, will not want to part with the stolen goods. And this problem can be solved only from the top .. if we do not want revolutions and upheavals.
          1. Akuzenka
            Akuzenka 26 January 2021 12: 14
            0
            Many can become leaders ... in theory. The same Platoshkin, with his own program, could be a leader. But definitely, the leader should be a person with leftist views.
            With your lips, and drink honey. But this will not be allowed. It is the same, according to the law, most capitalists will have to go to places not so distant. After all, all the landings that have been made at the moment are legal, and who said that those who planted on are involved in the same? Nobody. And those who were imprisoned also imprisoned their predecessors.
  • Svarog
    Svarog 25 January 2021 15: 22
    +9
    Quote: Deniska999
    On paper, as always, everything is perfect, but on this is how they will actually apply ...

    In fact, everything will look sad as always.
    With the speed of a printer, laws are issued one after another, all of them are aimed at the good .. But good for whom?
    The authorities are trying to protect themselves in every possible way, but to put it mildly they are not smart. Instead of solving obvious problems, the authorities try to use laws to silence these problems.
    Instead of raising the standard of living and doing everything to be economically, technologically independent from the West, all sorts of restrictive measures are being taken. This suggests that the authorities understand that they will not be able to do real things. Well, not capable. Your own safety remains.
    1. ALARI
      ALARI 25 January 2021 19: 59
      +4
      It seems to me that the main blow is directed at YouTube channels, any channel falls under this law, from how to repair a car to any game channel where it is shown how to play. This is how the law will be applied. It is similar as always the law that the drawbar turned where it turned out.
  • nsm1
    nsm1 25 January 2021 15: 28
    +8
    Nobel laureate Lev Landau was tried
    According to the political article.
    Not for fraud or gross bodily harm.
    Not for pedophilia.
    Here you have to distinguish, not to lump everything together.
    1. GTYCBJYTH2021
      GTYCBJYTH2021 25 January 2021 15: 42
      -1
      Quote: nsm1
      Nobel laureate Lev Landau was tried
      According to the political article.
      Not for fraud or gross bodily harm.
      Not for pedophilia.
      Here you have to distinguish, not to lump everything together.

      good hi
    2. Avior
      Avior 25 January 2021 15: 59
      +8
      Landau was not tried. He was accused, but Kapitsa interceded and the case was closed.
  • Pilot
    Pilot 25 January 2021 15: 40
    +5
    Further, lawmakers regulate what is forbidden to educators.

    First, incite all kinds of hatred and promote the superiority or inferiority of citizens on a variety of grounds.

    Secondly, it is forbidden to induce actions against the Constitution of the Russian Federation at lectures.
    I wonder how these “patriotic” figures will control enemy universities, where children live and study with many bureaucrats and deputies, businessmen of all stripes. Patriotically, will they not let children go abroad? wassat
    1. Akuzenka
      Akuzenka 26 January 2021 12: 16
      +1
      Patriotically, will they not let children go abroad?
      It would be better not to be allowed back into the Russian Federation !!!!!! There will be more benefits!
  • Cowbra
    Cowbra 25 January 2021 15: 43
    +1
    It is high time. And then the devil knows what. Anti-state activity, by the way. still half the trouble. What is it all about when natural sectarians lecture at the biology department of Moscow State University? Creationists, I got into this way back in the early 90s ... This is just fooling future researchers, liquidation of the higher school performed by the State Department staff. Read tripods, tripods ...
    1. lucul
      lucul 25 January 2021 16: 08
      -3
      It is high time. And then the devil knows what.

      I agree that this law had to be passed 30 years ago.
  • Fan-fan
    Fan-fan 25 January 2021 15: 54
    +4
    And this author Yevgeny Fyodorov is not by chance that Fyodorov is a State Duma deputy and the leader of some GCD?
  • A_Lex
    A_Lex 25 January 2021 15: 55
    +3
    First, incite all kinds of hatred and promote the superiority or inferiority of citizens on a variety of grounds.
    Secondly, it is forbidden to induce actions against the Constitution of the Russian Federation at lectures.


    There is already a contradiction here. According to the Constitution of the Russian Federation, it is a bourgeois state, and under a bourgeois system, superiority belongs to the one who has more resources. So, with all the desire, neither on paper, nor even more so in reality, it will not be possible to pretend that there is a society of equal people around. And where there is still no real equality, there is already inferiority.

    YouTube has become a real scientific mainstream, where all sorts of educators, scientists and teachers create truly popular lecture halls for the general public. It is here that the opinion of new generations is formed.


    Opinion can be and is formed. But a real scientist is formed only through direct, live contact with other students and teachers. No new remote sensing technology can replace this process. The stake on distance education will lead to a massive spread of what was previously contemptuously called "education". By the way, which, by the way, is already clearly seen in the example of the culture of production that has moved down.

    The logic is very simple - if the law can be applied purely hypothetically against free thought, then it will certainly be so.


    Lovers of free thinking often forget that absolute free thinking is inadequate. Any adequate, i.e. corresponding to reality, thinking is based on limitations, since reality itself only does what limits the thinker. Fans of absolute free thinking, who do not recognize any restrictions, can be strongly recommended to jump from the Federation tower, counting either on a soft landing, or on the fact that in the process of free fall, the free thinker will grow wings, which, of course, is certainly possible in reality. in which, according to the free opinion of the free thinker, there are no restrictions.
  • nsm1
    nsm1 25 January 2021 15: 58
    +2
    I'm wondering: will any "business coaches", "personal growth coaches" be licensed?
    1. Avior
      Avior 25 January 2021 16: 34
      +6
      Judging by the text, yes.
  • shinobi
    shinobi 25 January 2021 16: 01
    +1
    Education should be outside of politics. It is in this category that censorship should be carried out. Inspired something in physics about political views, excommunicated from the profession for a month or two. Freeze accounts at a living wage. An empty refrigerator and debts on communal services like no one puts brains in place. .As my dad says, taking a belt in his hands -What does not reach through the head, will reach through ... you understand. Foreigners are simply expelled. The time of courtesies and ceremonies ended in 98. An open war is going on against us.
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  • rocket757
    rocket757 25 January 2021 16: 09
    +1
    ... Be that as it may, among some scientists and defenders of democratic values, there is persistent irritation with the legislative initiative

    Yes, let them ride for such education there, and even at their own expense! No problem.
    Let's see where their righteous fervor goes.
  • yehat2
    yehat2 25 January 2021 16: 24
    +2
    It seems to me that the problem was approached from the wrong side.
    In my opinion, if someone teaches knowledge, then at points that are considered officially controversial and not obvious, he should voice that there are other points of view and describe them.
    This is the reason for the controversy, and it is being replaced by some strange construction of censorship.
    1. evgen1221
      evgen1221 25 January 2021 17: 18
      +2
      Here, more likely to counter destructive sects and other civilizers at the expense of the State Department, they put a barrier. In the university, and so other points of view are considered. But it will be more difficult for uncles, coaches, koekakalam to toil with garbage.
      1. yehat2
        yehat2 25 January 2021 17: 22
        +5
        it is similar to treating an infection with head amputation.
        Very effective, but too much harm.
    2. Usher
      Usher 25 January 2021 21: 51
      -3
      Quote: yehat2
      It seems to me that the problem was approached from the wrong side.
      In my opinion, if someone teaches knowledge, then at points that are considered officially controversial and not obvious, he should voice that there are other points of view and describe them.
      This is the reason for the controversy, and it is being replaced by some strange construction of censorship.

      Normal scientists and educators say so. But the liars and obscurantists claim that only their point of view is correct. You yourself do not stand aside.
      1. yehat2
        yehat2 25 January 2021 22: 35
        +4
        why? What is worse in my proposal than what the authorities offer?
        1. Usher
          Usher 26 January 2021 02: 15
          0
          Quote: yehat2
          why? What is worse in my proposal than what the authorities offer?

          Not worse, but your so-called. "The proposal" is useless and trite, it is voiced by all normal teachers and scientists, popularizers of science, as well as educated and erudite bloggers who are not scientists, but are savvy in their topics. For example "stubborn paleontologist", "Bushwacker", "Shklovskogo Street", "Physics from Pobedinsky", "Space is simple", "Space Room", etc. If the question is controversial, they always indicate it.
          1. yehat2
            yehat2 26 January 2021 02: 21
            +5
            this is how this practice proves the uselessness, redundancy and, therefore, even harmfulness of the law under discussion.
            1. Usher
              Usher 26 January 2021 11: 12
              -1
              Quote: yehat2
              this is how this practice proves the uselessness, redundancy and, therefore, even harmfulness of the law under discussion.

              on the contrary, all pseudoscience and swindlers must be banned at once. I'm just shocked by some content, the same channel "Kramola". And in greater shock from subscribers and likes, there are millions of them. These channels must be banned and closed without discussion about freedom, as they are harmful.
              1. yehat2
                yehat2 26 January 2021 12: 29
                0
                why forbid? This is a simple method, but not the best one.
                They will forbid themselves when they have something to compare with.
                A simple example - in the United States, the culture of homosexuals and all kinds of same-sex perversions did not have a chance, while the idea of ​​the American Dream was actually working.
                But the income of the households fell threefold, the marriage began to live tensely and began.
                As long as there is a healthy alternative, people will choose it themselves.
                And you start to force them to choose what they react to by protests and looking for alternatives. What is all this bummer for?
                The more natural the process, the more reliable it is. It is not necessary to introduce censorship, but to show the good.
                1. Usher
                  Usher 26 January 2021 13: 58
                  -1
                  Quote: yehat2
                  why forbid? This is a simple method, but not the best one.
                  They will forbid themselves when they have something to compare with.
                  A simple example - in the United States, the culture of homosexuals and all kinds of same-sex perversions did not have a chance, while the idea of ​​the American Dream was actually working.
                  But the income of the households fell threefold, the marriage began to live tensely and began.
                  As long as there is a healthy alternative, people will choose it themselves.
                  And you start to force them to choose what they react to by protests and looking for alternatives. What is all this bummer for?
                  The more natural the process, the more reliable it is. It is not necessary to introduce censorship, but to show the good.

                  You are mistaken, this should be stopped in the bud. The fact of the matter is that children and adolescents lack critical thinking, experience and knowledge. And these scammers paint them a false picture of the world. Where is it more natural here? They draw on the basis of their sick imagination and it turns out more colorful. And science is serious and rather boring, but it is reality. And who will the young fools follow?
  • Avior
    Avior 25 January 2021 16: 38
    +4
    The author mixes outreach and educational activities
    The law itself on the licensing of educational activities is another reason for corruption and arbitrariness.
    Educational is already licensed, and educational is sheer stupidity, and even with such a definition.
    And if you write an article in VO, does the author need a license?
    Not far before that already ....
  • evgen1221
    evgen1221 25 January 2021 16: 40
    +4
    Still with all sorts of magicians and sorcerers figured out, it would be a little easier with obscurantism in Russia. I unequivocally support the undertaking, if only iron eggs should be used en masse and without looking back at connections to add and in general there will be norms. For once, the printer gave out a worthwhile thing!
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 25 January 2021 16: 48
    -2
    Lectures by foreign scientists will be subject to strict censorship, which will lead to the limitation of freedom of scientific thought and the oppression of any dissent.
    Foreign lecturers on the history of Russia and any other topic of history have nothing to do here, all the same they will twist everything. And rigor will lead to quality and responsibility, what's wrong?
  • alien308
    alien308 25 January 2021 17: 02
    +7
    1) Bill on amendments to the law on education. At the same time, the amendments have nothing to do with education.
    2) The amendments do not establish specific rules, but transfer unlimited powers to arbitrary state and municipal bodies. They provide complete lack of control and the absence of any protection of citizens from arbitrariness.
    3) Arbitrary restriction of freedom of speech.
    4) State regulation in education, and in particular the law on education, led to the destruction of the Soviet education system, which guaranteed a decent world level and in many respects the best level of school graduates in the world. Now who does not want to be a victim of the exam will not be able to study the subject from informative sources if the source has not received a license or certificate?
    5) There is no need for state regulation (control, prohibition and restriction) of education to reduce foreign influence to an acceptable level. There are other laws for this, including the law on foreign agents, the law on education. Instead of concrete work to suppress the financing of traitors and remove them from state institutions, primarily educational ones, direct sabotage and suppression of socially useful work. The authors and supporters of the amendments in the legislative and executive bodies are the same traitors as Navalny and the company, only much more dangerous.
    6) On the forum they complain about the victims of the exam. Now there will be more of them. And in fact, apart from them, there will be no one, except for individual renegades who, due to their small numbers, do not affect the scientific and technical level of the country and the economy. These amendments are part of the program for the final transformation of Russia into a third world country that is incapable of producing and developing high-tech products and does not have its own science. See the IL-112 saga.
    7) Read the amendments themselves https://sozd.duma.gov.ru/download/9176A55A-F768-48EC-AD4C-EC32481595B8
    1. A_Lex
      A_Lex 25 January 2021 17: 35
      +4
      These amendments are part of the program for the final transformation of Russia into a third world country that is incapable of producing and developing high-tech products and does not have its own science.


      So this is the ultimate goal of the regime. And all actions for almost 30 years have been persistently and methodically pursuing the achievement of this very goal.
      1. Usher
        Usher 25 January 2021 21: 46
        -4
        Quote: A_Lex
        These amendments are part of the program for the final transformation of Russia into a third world country that is incapable of producing and developing high-tech products and does not have its own science.


        So this is the ultimate goal of the regime. And all actions for almost 30 years have been persistently and methodically pursuing the achievement of this very goal.

        please explain to me what is a mode?
    2. Odysseus
      Odysseus 25 January 2021 18: 00
      +7
      Quote: alien308
      And in fact, apart from them, there will be no one, except for individual renegades who, due to their small number, do not affect the scientific and technical level of the country and the economy. These amendments are part of the program for the final transformation of Russia into a third world country, incapable of producing and developing

      This is the ultimate goal of the "patriotic" authorities of the Russian Federation. In addition, this law is an element in the chain of laws that finally transforms the Russian Federation into a bourgeois dictatorship a la Pinochet's regime, where you can breathe strictly by order of the authorities surrounded by enemies.
      People who seized the power-property grabbed it with a stranglehold and are ready to shoot back guarding the loot.
      Education, especially mass education, is not necessary in such a system in principle.
    3. Usher
      Usher 25 January 2021 21: 49
      -3
      Quote: alien308
      1) Bill on amendments to the law on education. At the same time, the amendments have nothing to do with education.
      2) The amendments do not establish specific rules, but transfer unlimited powers to arbitrary state and municipal bodies. They provide complete lack of control and the absence of any protection of citizens from arbitrariness.
      3) Arbitrary restriction of freedom of speech.
      4) State regulation in education, and in particular the law on education, led to the destruction of the Soviet education system, which guaranteed a decent world level and in many respects the best level of school graduates in the world. Now who does not want to be a victim of the exam will not be able to study the subject from informative sources if the source has not received a license or certificate?
      5) There is no need for state regulation (control, prohibition and restriction) of education to reduce foreign influence to an acceptable level. There are other laws for this, including the law on foreign agents, the law on education. Instead of concrete work to suppress the financing of traitors and remove them from state institutions, primarily educational ones, direct sabotage and suppression of socially useful work. The authors and supporters of the amendments in the legislative and executive bodies are the same traitors as Navalny and the company, only much more dangerous.
      6) On the forum they complain about the victims of the exam. Now there will be more of them. And in fact, apart from them, there will be no one, except for individual renegades who, due to their small numbers, do not affect the scientific and technical level of the country and the economy. These amendments are part of the program for the final transformation of Russia into a third world country that is incapable of producing and developing high-tech products and does not have its own science. See the IL-112 saga.
      7) Read the amendments themselves https://sozd.duma.gov.ru/download/9176A55A-F768-48EC-AD4C-EC32481595B8

      Freedom of speech is not permissiveness to pour any garbage into the ears of children! We must immediately close obscurantists and charlatans. All sorts of "truth-tellers" and "shamans" in the third generation. bred. All sorts of fools who look at the Earth in Google maps and talk about careers that these are traces of nuclear strikes. And they believe!
      1. alien308
        alien308 26 January 2021 23: 00
        -1
        Freedom of speech is primarily an opportunity to receive information, knowledge and works of art. With restrictions, it is the content component that suffers first of all. And the fight against obscurantism is simple - publish and distribute high-quality, meaningful and relevant materials. What have you done for this?
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          1. alien308
            alien308 27 January 2021 16: 13
            -1
            "Freedom of speech is not permissiveness to pour any garbage into the ears of children!"
            So work with children! Teach children to spot nonsense. Excellent educational practice. Is a country worthy of existence where even parents do not want to pay minimal attention to their children? Pseudoscientific channels have divorced due to the lack of available meaningful knowledge and information. Interesting and fascinating materials, disclosing the essence of information waste and the driving forces behind its promotion will make its impact close to zero. This does not require state regulation, in fact, a ban. Since you usually say those who have not done anything, do not want to do anything and believe in the holy power of prohibitions.
            1. Usher
              Usher 27 January 2021 22: 06
              0
              Quote: alien308
              "Freedom of speech is not permissiveness to pour any garbage into the ears of children!"
              So work with children! Teach children to spot nonsense. Excellent educational practice. Is a country worthy of existence where even parents do not want to pay minimal attention to their children? Pseudoscientific channels have divorced due to the lack of available meaningful knowledge and information. Interesting and fascinating materials, disclosing the essence of information waste and the driving forces behind its promotion will make its impact close to zero. This does not require state regulation, in fact, a ban. Since you usually say those who have not done anything, do not want to do anything and believe in the holy power of prohibitions.

              You are again on the same rake over and over again. You mean Thomas, you mean Yarema. What am I to you a teacher? I'm not worried about mine, I'm worried about those millions of views and subscribers from charlatans.
              1. alien308
                alien308 28 January 2021 23: 05
                0
                Quote: Usher

                What am I to you a teacher?

                Do you think the teacher will give something useful? As a rule, he has no opportunity. By ourselves, only by ourselves. The education system is rapidly degrading. Do not assume that someone will do something. Small business practice. Not bans from the state, which destroyed the world's best mass education system.
  • Humpty
    Humpty 25 January 2021 17: 09
    +4
    I can't imagine how not to break the wood if you start to control the content of educational lectures.
    But the quality of lecturers varies. As an example of the sometimes illiterate, sometimes limited knowledge of the lecturer on the topic, you can find https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec2yW6ZkTAY
    Worst of all, there is not a single polite and critical commentary on the lecture. Everyone is delighted.
    Stupidity blooms, I'm sorry.
    1. Usher
      Usher 25 January 2021 21: 45
      -1
      Quote: Humpty
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ec2yW6ZkTAY

      And what did you not like here, I live nearby. And he seems to be telling the truth. What is the problem then?
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 26 January 2021 04: 13
        +1
        Quote: Usher
        And what did you not like here, I live nearby

        In PM.
  • Gardener91
    Gardener91 25 January 2021 17: 33
    +4
    Lack of educational upbringing is the result of "censorship" for "educational activities".
  • bandabas
    bandabas 25 January 2021 19: 29
    +4
    It is high time to sequester the State Duma and the Federation Council. How many worthless freeloaders. And add their families, assistants and other sycophants ... The name will be LEGION OF BEZDELNIKOV.
  • Usher
    Usher 25 January 2021 21: 43
    -1
    That's right, otherwise I remember a year ago one "streamer" was hanging noodles on the ears of a shkolota. Come on that she said that living in Italy is good, figs with her. Italy is really good. But as arguments, this "creature" brought lies, distortion of facts and all that. This must be stopped. Or a channel called sedition, this is a citadel of obscurantism! It must be closed.
  • Sergey-8848
    Sergey-8848 25 January 2021 22: 06
    +3
    Why should we dance around Natalia Poklonskaya from the first letter in the article? Is she a model and a beacon? No, an ordinary citizen of the Russian Federation. She has her own understanding of legislative quirks, other deputies have their own.
    Well, a person has a position, she promotes it, why cling?
  • samarin1969
    samarin1969 25 January 2021 22: 28
    +1
    An absolutely insane law! VO, for example, is quite an educational resource of a good class. The entire Internet community is engaged in enlightenment: historical versions, ethnographic sketches, economic projects, culinary delights, the entire palette of cultural heritage in music and cinema. Even primitive selfies express ideas and carry information. Does the State Duma really lack the Constitution for someone to fight extremism without violating freedom of speech? Why do you need to "license" everything and everyone?
    It turns out that several official academicians will decide the canonicity of patriotism and historical truth. It already smells like ... "Inquisition".
    1. Usher
      Usher 27 January 2021 01: 55
      0
      Quote: samarin1969
      An absolutely insane law! VO, for example, is quite an educational resource of a good class. The entire Internet community is engaged in enlightenment: historical versions, ethnographic sketches, economic projects, culinary delights, the entire palette of cultural heritage in music and cinema. Even primitive selfies express ideas and carry information. Does the State Duma really lack the Constitution for someone to fight extremism without violating freedom of speech? Why do you need to "license" everything and everyone?
      It turns out that several official academicians will decide the canonicity of patriotism and historical truth. It already smells like ... "Inquisition".

      Watch the channel "sedition". Everything will become clear why. What does the "inquisition" have to do with it? You probably don't know what that term is.
  • Yuri Stepanov
    Yuri Stepanov 25 January 2021 22: 56
    +2
    One thing is clear - the handles of the legs were shaking. The next stage is to close youtube. Then turn off the Internet. And return everything to the level of the 19th century. Well, like "God Save the Tsar ...."
    1. tasha
      tasha 26 January 2021 05: 54
      -1
      At the level of the 19th century, it is unlikely, after all, the gap is large. Maybe to the level of the 80s of the last century?
  • The eye of the crying
    The eye of the crying 26 January 2021 01: 14
    -1
    "If evil were to be suppressed, to take all the books and burn them" // Griboyedov
  • 9PA
    9PA 26 January 2021 08: 11
    -1
    Spiritual braces braces. How you don't want to go back to the dull Middle Ages
  • Akuzenka
    Akuzenka 26 January 2021 11: 28
    +1
    By the way, now at universities, teachers have to prove their innocence almost once a semester with police clearance certificates. Why are numerous liberal critics not indignant at this norm?
    If the liberals, for indignation on the aforementioned topic, begin to pay, then indignation about it will begin!
  • Stalker84
    Stalker84 26 January 2021 11: 53
    +1
    About "inciting hatred" here on the site there were articles about the slave trade in Kakvkaz and it was mentioned that a number of peoples quite cooperated with the Germans in the Second World War. In the heat of a dispute in one group in VK, I refer to these articles. You should have seen the indignation of people of Caucasian nationality. They are firmly convinced that takra can neither be spoken nor published because it infringes upon them, insults and destroys the bright image of the highlanders. And in general I should be jailed for inciting hatred.
  • yehat2
    yehat2 26 January 2021 14: 32
    +1
    Quote: Usher
    And who will the young fools follow?

    for parents and a teacher who should teach them to think critically.
    And before that there should be no censorship, but a complete ban of any materials.
    But when the subjects of religion and the native Russian language are introduced in parallel to Russian (apparently, not so native), it is somehow too late to discuss skills.
  • Max Lebedev
    Max Lebedev 26 January 2021 14: 33
    +17
    scientists in Russia unexpectedly turned out to be enemies of the state ... It's all about addendum 4 to Article 105 of the Law "On Education", which requires lecturers to obtain preliminary opinions before signing contracts with educational organizations

    It is interesting that such a rule does not apply to educational (or educational, you can get confused) services for foreign citizens

    It turns out that the law is being promoted either by enemies or "stupid people."
    1. alien308
      alien308 26 January 2021 23: 09
      0
      Do you admit the real participation of stupid people? Demonstrative stupidity hides a purposeful and evil will.
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    1. alien308
      alien308 27 January 2021 16: 19
      -1
      And you :) Navalny with the company and the current authorities are two ways to strip one and the same cat in favor of the West.
  • tank64rus
    tank64rus 28 January 2021 10: 00
    0
    The situation in the world is very bad. The country has declared war. Column 5 works out its money in full. We need an ideology that would unite people. Otherwise it will be bad.
  • Antidote
    Antidote 30 January 2021 12: 22
    -1
    Quote: evgen1221
    Still with all sorts of magicians and sorcerers figured out, it would be a little easier with obscurantism in Russia. I unequivocally support the undertaking, if only iron eggs should be used en masse and without looking back at connections to add and in general there will be norms. For once, the printer gave out a worthwhile thing!

    You will not believe
    https://lenta.ru/news/2017/02/13/legalize_magic/
  • Igor Igorevich Semirechensky
    Igor Igorevich Semirechensky 30 January 2021 12: 28
    0
    And then! Alas, in Russia and abroad there are more and more such enlighteners, Blokers and LoKhers, who put their selfish ego above state security, which once again confirms the timeliness of the law on licensing all those publications where the selfish interests of applicants for the largest possible number of subscribers for more profitable sale of oneself to the one who pays more, clearly at odds with the need to protect the public sovereignty of the country, which raised these hucksters from enlightenment, tea is not Newton's binomial to understand this? But we are in a war, which the United States and their accomplices are already quite openly waging against Russia, always ready to use any new developments of these to the detriment of Russia, who do not know kinship! Or would they be ready to beat their scientific loot in Hitler's magazines, sapienti sat, chy zrozumilo, alaverdy, du yu understand, ferstein zi, vu kompren, or will they all understand azohn wei more?