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I am a combat veteran. So what?

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Something must finally change


In 2021, something will definitely happen for us - war veterans: either they will make us happy, or, on the contrary, they will simply upset us. I will not engage in predictions, not talking about that.


Recently, the leaders of the veteran movement of Russia asked to expand measures of social support for those who had a chance to visit hot spots. They expressed their proposals on behalf of the participants in local wars and armed conflicts in a letter to Russian Prime Minister Mikhail Mishustin.

Having studied it, Mikhail Vladimirovich immediately instructed Deputy Prime Minister Tatyana Golikova to analyze the provisions and requests set out in the message. Having learned about this, you begin to think that, at last, the requests of ordinary guys, once sent by the Motherland to fight, have reached the high offices.

And at the same time you think, why should we veterans even ask for this? Indeed, in these local wars and in various military conflicts, we all did not find ourselves on our own. What, took the suitcase and went?

So, and there is evidence of this, we made our way to Spain:

"... I left the land, went to fight, to give the land in Grenada to the peasants ...".

And they fought there, as Colonel Ilya Starinov did. So, unfortunately, he was not awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union.

But this man was the number 1 bomber in the Soviet Union. But he, who derailed 12 thousand enemy echelons during the Great Patriotic War, was ignored, as if they did not notice.

He lived for a long time according to modern concepts after that war. And they fought for him, so that there, in large offices where fateful decisions are made, they would pay at least some attention to his exploits and these requests. No, so they gave due importance to the numerous petitions. Probably the wrong people were bothering him.

More than once, faced with how people who fought in our country are awarded, we had to think about it. Everything seems to be simple - you accomplished a feat and died. Hence, it must be noted with dignity. But this is the whole hitch.

After all, those who will represent you for the award will surely remember how you were before when you went into battle. Was everything okay in your relationship to everyone around you?

Homeland remembers, homeland knows?


You think that everything is not at all so, well, at least - not quite so. You are wrong.

It is necessary not only to accomplish a feat, but also to survive. At any cost, without thinking about rewards, but because your family and friends are waiting for you at home. And they, and only they, will truly grieve and grieve if you suddenly die.

And the Motherland. What is Homeland? She will only look at you from the sidelines condescendingly.

More than forty years have passed since that memorable December 1979, when we entered Afghanistan. The guys were called by the Fatherland, and they responded, flew, drove off, then to return and already at home to receive that same stray bullet that did not finish them off in the Afghan mountains.

"Why were you there?"

This is what they got when they thought of making a vital, necessary request to officials.

Or then, having knocked out small benefits for yourself, over time, you will feel that all the privileges in the form of a miserable pension or no one now unnecessary landline telephone is simply ridiculous by modern concepts.

We are writing letters, we hope.

To begin with, I will recall the exploits of our compatriots whom Catherine II sent to the Archipelago expedition 250 years ago. Then Russian sailors and soldiers led by Admiral Grigory Spiridov, other naval commanders, ship captains and officers won the Chesme battle and utterly routed the Turks.

This has already been forgotten. They turn away from this. They don't know that.

And what about Spiridov? Yes, I was. He fought with the Turks - he fought. There is one street with his last name in the country, one grave, one monument, a bust in Kronstadt and another temple that he managed to build during his lifetime. And it's all.

And is it more than enough to talk about it?

How many years do you need to remember?


And if only Spiridov was forgotten?

Two and a half centuries separate us from his exploits.

But fast forward to 1941.

The first day of the war. In a battle on the border, having shot all the ammunition and destroying five dozen Nazis, border guard Pavel Kapinos dies.

For a year now, the veterans of the Stavropol Territory, in their petitions, have been hoping to make at least some hole in the minds of officials of various instances. Unsuccessfully. They are told that if right after that fight a performance was written on him and it would still be preserved, then, perhaps, your question about his awarding would be considered ...

Let's go further. 1943 year. Kursk Bulge.

In a fierce battle, a platoon of border guards of Lieutenant Alexander Romanovsky is killed. Every one fell. The fighters were presented posthumously to the title of Hero of the Soviet Union.

It is commendable that the command of the 70th army of the NKVD troops so appreciated their feat. But other authorities decided otherwise. And already General of the Army Konstantin Rokossovsky signed a submission to award them with the Orders of the Patriotic War of the XNUMXst degree.

But if the guys survived that battle, then everyone would be Heroes. Not only I think so.

Border guard Vladimir Korolev and his associates, veterans of local wars, never tire of talking about this. They have already done so much so that this feat somehow drew attention to the higher authorities.

To no avail.

All requests and pleas go nowhere, like water to sand.

But they began to talk about the fact that the guys from the legendary platoon were awarded the wrong way back in the sixties of the last century. When the war was not forgotten yet.

Now they prefer to remember the Patriotic War in their offices only on holidays.

"No guys, it's not like that, it's not like that guys"

- it was not in vain that our classic Vladimir Vysotsky sang about this.

Forget Afghan, forget Chechnya too?


Afghanistan also walked zinc coffins through the Union. And they are already beginning to forget about it. You can already form your own "Immortal Afghan Regiment" here.


But how gloriously the voices "sing" that there was nothing in that war that Pavel Lungin presented in his last Afghan film "Brotherhood".

Dear people, he did not invent all this, but only artistically reproduced what he was told.

The director dared to convey to us only a few details of everything that happened then across the river. And they didn’t forgive him. For a long time they sneered and hooted until they achieved that the film they spat remained unclaimed.

But what did those who started this whole tumult think that war is planting trees in villages, laying roads and building housing?

War is an abomination. And everyone who has passed through it will say it. Or just once touched her, heading on a business trip to the combat zone. And there you don't need much: zip is a sniper bullet, or a splinter from a mine overtakes you, and you are already covered in zinc.

All veterans have certificates confirming their personal participation in hostilities. But this is not enough. Often, at the suggestion of those who have never been there and doubts it in every possible way, total checks are arranged.

After all, such a document from us, it turns out, can be easily bought, like everything else: diplomas, awards, certificates, badges confirming the fact of your vaccination against coronavirus. So the office controllers are checking: go to the archive, bring a document confirming the fact of your personal participation, almost deliver a certificate that you are this you.

Well, we will pay you some kind of bonus for the next anniversary, or we will bring firewood, but not those that burn, but damp and rotten. And if you don't bring a certificate, you won't get this either.

Or a veteran gets in line. They are like that everywhere. And suddenly he sees a sign above the window in front and on it simple words that he, as a warrior, should turn out of turn. He goes, so timidly, fearfully, barely audibly addressing everyone standing that he is a veteran.

The line buzzes with displeasure. And usually two tough pink-cheeked guys appear right next to them, testifying that they are also disabled and a hysterically howling woman, more precisely - an aunt, it's good if she's really pregnant, or with small children. The veteran walks out and leaves. Or rolls back to the very end of a long, long line.

It could have been much easier


Why do we have such anger and hatred for people who have gone through the military crucible? They see that the state does not need us, they remember us only on major holidays, and even then not all of them. First, of course, the inner circle is gifted, then, like waves on water, further and further.

But for some reason, everyone never gets it. Lacks. This is how we even send invitations to concerts for dates. Those who are simpler - those, please, go to the club where there are simply artists, and only people with great regalia go to the Palaces to listen to the stars.

And we are silent. We hope they will remember us sometime. And we are already hiding our awards away, we are not proud of them and do not wear them. And what are they really for? If you were already in that war, regardless of when and where, you protected, protected, saved someone, but they simply spit on you.

Or they ask you to pay attention to you. Thank you, of course, this is a great initiative. But I think that they will still have to wait a long, long time, but what if they really have mercy?

And how simple it would be: once a person fulfilled an order, and he already has a special sign with the state: he is honored, privileges and remembered after he finds himself in another world. Here he is - a real citizen of the Fatherland.

And not that moral monster who drives the old man - the veteran out of the office and contemptuously reminds him:

“We have no privileges for you. We did not send you there. "

After all, we have this everywhere.

I will be happy to know that I am mistaken.

Let them prove the opposite to all of us, veterans!
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  1. Crowe
    Crowe 20 January 2021 11: 18
    +44
    “We have no privileges for you. We did not send you there. "

    You yourself should be sent somewhere. I really want to send all these "the state shouldn't you anything."
    We all bow low to the veterans of all wars, you won't wait for the impudent officials and the deputies who are snuffed.
    1. begemot20091
      begemot20091 20 January 2021 11: 40
      +20
      But for the "liquidators" who were sent to training camps,
      From 01.02.2020, the size of the monthly monetary compensation for the purchase of food products is: (note) - annual, that is, once a year. I took the first one that fell out in Google, I got across the Rostov region. (Grounds by the Decree of the Government of the Russian Federation dated January 1, 29.01.2020 No. 61 "On approval of the indexation coefficient of payments, benefits and compensations in 2020")

      for disabled people of groups 1,2, 3 and 970,38 - XNUMX rubles;
      for liquidators - 646,88 rubles;
      From 01.02.2020, the amount of annual compensation for harm caused to health as a result of the Chernobyl disaster, compensation for health improvement are:

      for disabled people of groups 1, 2 - 1 rubles;
      for disabled people of the 3rd group - 1 rubles;
      for liquidators 86-87 - 970,38 rubles;
      for liquidators in 88 - 646,88 rubles;
      for liquidators 89-90. - 323,47 rubles.
      1. Machito
        Machito 20 January 2021 12: 09
        +13
        The homeland will not forget its Heroes. But he won't remember either.
        1. Aleks tv
          Aleks tv 20 January 2021 14: 30
          +35
          Quote: Bearded
          The homeland will not forget its Heroes. But he won't remember either.

          I will correct you a little, Bearded.
          Sorry I don’t know your name.

          I introduce myself about a long absence from the forum - Aleks TV. Tank forces. Greetings to all my friends. I report - alive. The stroke has patted a little, the radish is crandel-nappy.

          I touched the article a bit, so I am writing.
          A little bit about yourself:
          Hereditary military man.
          5 business trips.
          2 contusions.
          Writing off by military horsemen to the reserve.
          Recovery in service. Getting a lt. colonel. Full write-off into retirement with the diagnosis "the lemon is squeezed out completely."
          Do I have grudges? No.
          Do I have any claims to the authorities? Train.
          But we were not taught to complain.
          In the first year, the company commander said:
          - I will completely break you, schoolgirls, and then assemble it as it should and as it should be.
          So they taught what you NEED. There was no complaint in the course of preparation.
          Who am I now? Wasted junk with a disability?
          Khrenushki.
          I have no steel in my character, I am a Tankman, I have Armor inside me. I am a TANK myself. And like my own T-72B, which is always hit and broken, but ALWAYS ON THE MOVE AND READY FOR BATTLE.
          I do not boast of this comment, but I write to people like me - our war will never end, it is within us. And it will always be so.
          The government sent us to the war, but we defended the Motherland... These are different concepts. Homeland does not send to war.
          Condemn the government? There is no such article in the Statutes. The military follows the order.
          This is what we are strong. You won't be able to defeat us. We were taught THAT.
          So don't whine about your strengths.

          Raise your children the way our parents did.
          This is our mission.
          The goal is clear.
          The task is set.
          Forward.
          TURNOVER !!!

          Sincerely
          Alex.
          1. bubalik
            bubalik 20 January 2021 15: 55
            +7
            Aleks tv (Alexey)
            Alexey, I am sincerely glad to see you again. yes
            1. Aleks tv
              Aleks tv 20 January 2021 16: 05
              +6
              Sergey (bubalik)
              Greetings to the old guard!
              We'll smoke more))
              hi
          2. Ingvar 72
            Ingvar 72 21 January 2021 08: 12
            +5
            Greetings, Alex! drinks
            Quote: Aleks tv
            The stroke has patted a little, the radish is crandel-nappy.

            Give it up, hold on. The most important thing for stroke is not to smoke. drinks
            1. Aleks tv
              Aleks tv 21 January 2021 09: 55
              +3
              ... The most important thing for stroke is not to smoke.

              Hello Igor!
              hi
              Hit the very point.
              It was easier to agree with a glass on this issue, well, two relatives will always understand each other))
              yes repeat
              But the cigarette did not agree to a temporary truce. It turned out to be stoned, a radish. We fight on an equal footing with varying degrees of success.

              Do not drink, do not smoke, do not turn on in the tank - and how can one live here in civilian life?
              We urgently need to change something.))
              laughing
          3. major071
            major071 22 January 2021 12: 10
            +1
            Our regiment arrived! good drinks
            Glad, very glad, hello, fuel oil!

            By the road with a crossroads
            It was not easy for us yesterday
            Bradley pinned us to the ground
            And we would die heroically
            But the native "semyasa"
            Pushed back the ending
            Oh, you dear swallow,
            I've known you for thirty years
            I've been in love with you for a long time
            I'm a mechanic and a gunner
            Well, you are my working horse
            That armor is fortified
            What are we Abrams, Leclairs?
            Well, scary ... that's not the point
            There are no roads in Russia
            And in our directions
            NATO tanks on the offensive?
            I could be on the "semyasa" two!
            I'll look into the sighting complex
            Hello Abrams! I will meet
            The right button froze
            Do you want a subcaliber one?
            Under the cut of the tower, with all the urine!
            And from position to career!
            NATO praises their tanks
            Slavic tank not rival
            Well, we don't care about them
            We burned and burn these tanks
            Only the yankee stands screeching
            Nefig to fight with us
            Who will say, they say it is outdated
            All peeled off, faded
            Just don't believe in this
            There are cats in the names of the tanks
            There are few generals
            Well, the "semyasa" is a beast!
            wink
            1. Aleks tv
              Aleks tv 22 January 2021 12: 40
              +1
              .There are a few generals
              Well, the "semyasa" is a beast!

              Hello Volodya.
              Very glad to hear from you, buddy !!!
              hi
              Pleased with the verse))
              Already the soul has become warmer)))
              Thank!!!!!!
              crying good
              I remember him, if my memory serves, the first version of this verse was 4,5 years ago.))
              Talent, your division !!!
              fellow drinks
          4. Sergey79
            Sergey79 22 January 2021 18: 37
            +1
            I agree completely. Here are just bad rumors about the increase in the terms of pension. This is one of the most important reasons for the retirement of 40-year-old officers. I myself think more and more often. Also a veteran of the database. Correctly you noticed no anger at the benefits. There is irony and healthy humor in my soul about this.
            1. Aleks tv
              Aleks tv 22 January 2021 19: 41
              +3
              ... There is irony and healthy humor in my soul about this.

              Hello, Sergey.
              Well, what about without this in the native Red Army?
              Without this it is absolutely impossible. This is dangerous to health - you can go crazy.
              You mean raising the retirement age?
              Maybe. But not directly.
              They can play with the concepts of "age", "calendars", "seniority" and so on.
              That is, to come out with a good "net" and a decent pension, you will need to serve more, ahem ... a little.
              Good luck with the Service.
              1. Sergey79
                Sergey79 25 January 2021 01: 19
                +1
                Thank you. I suspect. You voiced all my fears ..
                1. Aleks tv
                  Aleks tv 25 January 2021 09: 49
                  +1
                  ... You voiced all my fears ..

                  Each has its own "service fatigue" ...
                  I hope that fifty dollars will hit me this year, but everything hasn't calmed down.))
                  And my former subordinate somehow calls and says:
                  - I can't take it anymore, EVERYTHING. I can't, I don't want to. Burnt to the ground. Not even a spark ...

                  And in civilian life ... Not everyone finds themselves. Many ... Uncomfortable.
                  Good luck Sergey.
                  Sincerely.
      2. faiver
        faiver 20 January 2021 12: 23
        +8
        The numbers you quoted are natural mockery ...
      3. TRex
        TRex 20 January 2021 13: 58
        +21
        No, no, no ... I am a "veteran of special risk units"; every month from my Motherland I receive a supplement to my pension of 2782 rubles. 67 kopecks And "Afghans" generally rake more than three thousand. So - we live, brothers!
        True, now, being a pensioner, I have to work. I work officially, with a good salary, the FIU regularly receives transfers from me to ITS fund, but it does not index MY pension ... There is a stupid appropriation of my money in favor of the fat-faced FIU.
        Does the Motherland hear? Does the Motherland know?
    2. Pete mitchell
      Pete mitchell 20 January 2021 12: 42
      +16
      Quote: Crowe
      Veterans of all wars, a deep bow from us all;you will not wait for the impudent officials and the deputies who have become snickering.
      How good, how fresh the roses will be, thrown into my coffin by my Country ...
      1. marchcat
        marchcat 20 January 2021 13: 14
        +7
        This is how officials, by their actions and inaction, instill patriotism among the people of the country. They are not tires, ungrateful ...
        1. Pete mitchell
          Pete mitchell 20 January 2021 13: 18
          +9
          Quote: marchcat
          Here are the officials ... Not a single bottom for them tires, ungrateful ...

          Nettle seed, everywhere like that - sticks on the heels ...
  2. 7,62x54
    7,62x54 20 January 2021 11: 26
    +39
    Both my grandfathers fought, he was alone in captivity, after captivity he managed to fight again. The second hit the Japanese in the Far East at 45m. After demobilization, they worked in the national economy, raised children, and then grandchildren. And somehow I did not hear either from them or from my parents that grandfathers would knock down thresholds, write inquiries, shake them with awards. Apparently this time was such a different time.
    1. credo
      credo 20 January 2021 12: 49
      +5
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Both my grandfathers fought, he was alone in captivity, after captivity he managed to fight again. The second hit the Japanese in the Far East at 45m. After demobilization, they worked in the national economy, raised children, and then grandchildren. And somehow I did not hear either from them or from my parents that grandfathers would knock down thresholds, write inquiries, shake them with awards. Apparently this time was such a different time.

      Join.
      Maybe the Author of the article is boiling in something, in particular, but I have not seen this about the widespread disregard for veterans.
      My people, who have already gone to another world, close and dear to me, survived both the occupation and the blockade and participation in hostilities, becoming after them both veterans and invalids, but they received care of themselves from the state, without insults and humiliations, and were grateful to her , despite the fact that none of them was not a Hero of the USSR, or a Hero of Russia, or a Hero of Socialist Labor.
      1. Doccor18
        Doccor18 20 January 2021 14: 06
        +7
        I remembered a case (about 3 years ago it was), a woman turned to me with a request for help for her husband (as it turned out later, the issue was not particularly difficult and was resolved in a working order). And so that the matter would get under way faster and could impress me, she handed me a document ... I opened it, read: Hero of the Soviet Union ... It struck me very much then. The Hero is sitting in front of me in an old jacket, in a wheelchair. First of all, I was surprised that such documents (about the award) have to be shown to relatives to solve everyday problems. All this is outraged. Such Heroes of their Motherland must be provided with everything necessary, otherwise it will be a shame for the conscience of such a country ...
    2. DrEng527
      DrEng527 20 January 2021 13: 01
      +2
      Quote: 7,62x54
      Apparently this time was such a different time.

      or people knew what they were fighting for ... request
      1. 7,62x54
        7,62x54 20 January 2021 13: 09
        +2
        What do you think they fought for?
        1. DrEng527
          DrEng527 20 January 2021 13: 13
          +3
          Quote: 7,62x54
          What do you think they fought for?

          I know that they fought in the Second World War for the Motherland! Of the real veterans, I know my uncle, Guards. Sergeant Major, Knight of the Orders of the Red Banner and the Order of the Patriotic War 2st, medals for Courage. He fought in the IPTA
    3. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 20 January 2021 13: 34
      +17
      Uncle Sasha lived in our yard during my childhood. Such an intelligent pensioner, the same age as my grandfather. He smoked a cigarette through the mouthpiece and his family was friends with ours.
      On May 9, he put on a jacket, and there are awards !!! Almost like Brezhnev's! Only the Hero's star was not there.
      And only after my death I found out that he was a combat pilot from the call "Komsomol member, on a plane!" He fought the entire war, and then took part in test flights.
      And he, his wife and two children lived in ... One-room "Khrushchev"!
      My grandfather, I remember, said to him, "Sasha, go to the city committee. You, as a veteran, will be given an apartment without queues!"
      And he answered:
      "I will not go. I see people live even worse than us. But we have enough ..."
      1. major147
        major147 20 January 2021 21: 28
        +6
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        He lived in our yard, during my childhood,
        grandfather and grandmother. They lived very poorly. The clothes are clean, but all in patches. I, then a preschool child, was very surprised to see these grandfather and grandmother in the club at the Victory Day with many medals for both ...
      2. Ingvar 72
        Ingvar 72 21 January 2021 08: 17
        +4
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        And only after death I found out that he was a combat pilot from the call "Komsomolets, on a plane

        Google the story of Maresyev's life, he also lived modestly after the war, without advertising his story. hi
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 21 January 2021 09: 07
          +1
          I didn't google it on purpose, but my grandfather Pyotr Ivanovich told me that somehow he ended up in the same sanatorium with him. Everyone who found out that MERESIEV ITSELF was with them organized a kind of party with a "glass of tea".
          He turned out to be a simple man. Not arrogant. He honestly admitted that he could not dance. This is, they say, an invention of the director.
    4. vitvit123
      vitvit123 20 January 2021 13: 36
      +7
      So while there were people like your grandfather, the whole country was (and women and children were at war), and now not everyone is tempted not only to go to a hot spot, but simply to give the Motherland a debt - 1 year ... maybe this is the difference between situations ...
      1. mole
        mole 21 January 2021 01: 02
        +3
        Yes, you are probably right.
        Now, for the readiness to die for the Motherland, the diagnosis of "suicidal tendencies" will soon be made.
    5. dauria
      dauria 21 January 2021 07: 08
      +4
      .... so that the grandfathers would knock on the doorstep, write requests, shake them with awards

      Uncle Kolya was in our village. "Kolya is stupid." He hooked his head thoroughly already in the 45th with the Japanese. I still remember. Small in stature, bald, with a silly face. Then he was over 60. She walks past grandma's house "Marus, can I get some water?" ... Will bring buckets, that sometimes a glass of moonshine to him "Just don't tell your Verka .." He died in 79th.
      I never told you how much we pestered. I brushed it off.
      And before whom was he to shake the awards? Peers who survived are the same. It's good if whole. And they were on a piece of wood, and with an empty sleeve in their pocket. In front of those who are younger? Why would he?
      Then I noticed by myself - it is necessary that "SVOY" was for conversation, so that there was no need to explain and explain. And then, what kind of conversation - "remember, you know that?" , or "have you been there, there?"
      Well, and the author ... What a devil to whine, it would be okay about the disabled ... And so the usual muzhik business. Why praise yourself, relatives? The women have to give birth.
  3. yuriy55
    yuriy55 20 January 2021 11: 27
    +12
    Let them prove the opposite to all of us, veterans!

    Nice man! Many thanks to you and a deep bow from all our people for your dedication to the Oath!
    They (officials) have already proven their attitude. They are an instrument of power: as they are ordered, so they will sing. It's time for us to prove that their songs are pretty boring.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 20 January 2021 11: 58
      +12
      Quote: yuriy55
      They (officials) have already proven their attitude.

      For us, the Motherland is what sounds in the Song "Where does the Motherland begin ....". And for bureaucrats there is no homeland, for them only his position, and his ambitions - "I decide here who is the hero."
      The same story that Alexei Botyan and Alexander Marinescu had with Starinov. And not only with them, and not only then, but now.
    2. Asad
      Asad 20 January 2021 11: 58
      +9
      In my opinion, the person has passed the hot spot, EVERYTHING is entered into the electronic database, and no parasites of officials, and veteran organizations! Maximum in the MFC to submit an application in electronic form! Learned how to calculate taxes quickly!
      1. vladimirvn
        vladimirvn 20 January 2021 12: 22
        +4
        Quote: ASAD
        In my opinion, the person has passed the hot spot, EVERYTHING is entered into the electronic database, and no parasites of officials, and veteran organizations! Maximum in the MFC to submit an application in electronic form! Learned how to calculate taxes quickly!

        They promise from this year, through the cabinet of public services, to provide information on benefits and even send information to the relevant organizations. We'll see.
      2. frog
        frog 21 January 2021 15: 19
        +1
        Do you think this will change something? The problem is in relation to the cogs of the very state machine, which regularly (albeit occasionally))) speaks of care, heroism and everything else, to these very veterans. Which do not need to prove belonging. A very simple case)) Does this make a big difference?
        Yes, theoretically, the veterans of, say, that very War have good pensions and so on ... But on the other hand, if you wish, find cases where these are thrown out of hospitals, then deprived of housing, then something else from this row is not a problem at all. Not an abstract state, but quite concrete people, by the way. True, the state does nothing with these people, as a rule ...
        1. Severok
          Severok 21 January 2021 23: 07
          0
          Not so long ago, such cogs from the state machine were sent for scrap for 10 years, after being worked out along the party line. This is when the Master was in the country. And now a temporary worker, but grasping power with all parts of the body, not the owner - a professional student, a huckster and a speculator who knows only his ass, kept warm and after leaving his post, not subject to jurisdiction, untouchable! This temporary worker will learn to make galoshes in the USSR!
          1. your1970
            your1970 26 January 2021 06: 39
            0
            Quote: Severok
            Not so long ago, such cogs from the state machine were sent for scrap for 10 years, after being worked out along the party line. This is when the Boss was in the country.

            Oh yeah!!!!! Only here is the troubles ... The formula: "I didn't send you there !!!" For example, I heard the first time at the military registration and enlistment office (while waiting for the medical board) in 1984.A guy came with ZBZ on a jacket - he was sent as a military commissar ...
            Neither Putin, nor the oligarchs, the people's power ...
            I don’t even want to remember the veterans of the Great Patriotic War: how they lived in barracks under the USSR, they still live, now the oligarchs do not need it, then the people's power ...
  4. Avior
    Avior 20 January 2021 11: 27
    +7
    I left the land, went to fight to give the land in Grenada to the peasants

    interesting evidence. 10 years before the events. smile
    For a long time, according to modern concepts, he lived after that war.

    By all accounts, a long time. 101 years old.
  5. Asad
    Asad 20 January 2021 11: 29
    +10
    Perhaps 12000 trains were blown up by the mines he invented? In any case, great man, bow to him!
    1. lwxx
      lwxx 20 January 2021 11: 39
      +12
      "under the leadership of Ilya Starinov, 256 bridges were blown up and more than 12 thousand enemy echelons were derailed" is meant as the organizer of the partisan movement. Contemporary journalism ...
  6. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 20 January 2021 11: 35
    +8
    Homeland remembers, homeland knows?

    - So what about the Motherland?
    - Motherland remembers, Motherland knows
    Who walks with her out of step in life
    And she hardly remembers those.

    And he gave Mr. Mishustin a letter to Mr. Golikova. Well, then, as always ...
    1. tank64rus
      tank64rus 27 January 2021 11: 18
      0
      This is the one that health care has led to an almost complete collapse. The economist rules medicine. There are no further words, only letters.
  7. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 20 January 2021 11: 40
    +4
    And they fought there, as Colonel Ilya Starinov did. So, unfortunately, he was not awarded the title of Hero of the Soviet Union.
    The greatest man, our people's memory, human memory is always with him.
  8. vladimirvn
    vladimirvn 20 January 2021 11: 42
    +17
    Three thousand pays extra to the pension and thanks for that. Transport tax is not taken. You can not pay for land up to 6 acres. For the garage it seems too. Not enough already. And it is not convenient to walk around waving an ID. Thank God not disabled. We are not alone in life.
    1. WIKI
      WIKI 20 January 2021 11: 49
      -8
      Quote: vladimirvn
      We are not alone in life

      Poor outlook. Therefore, we suddenly appear from nowhere such as Crooked Legs, and others like him.
      1. vladimirvn
        vladimirvn 20 January 2021 11: 52
        +9
        Quote: WIKI
        Poor outlook.

        Well, go to the same line with disabled, pregnant women, proving that you are more preferential than them. Wretched outlook!
        1. WIKI
          WIKI 20 January 2021 11: 54
          -4
          You have different preferential categories. You can only be ashamed in front of those who fought like you.
          1. Evil543
            Evil543 20 January 2021 12: 03
            +5
            And what do you say to your conscience? Get under the bench I need more?
            1. WIKI
              WIKI 20 January 2021 12: 20
              0
              I repeat once again, you have different preferential categories and, accordingly, different financing items. You can only pinch off people like you. I do not urge you to go with your fists on pregnant women.
            2. major147
              major147 20 January 2021 21: 33
              +4
              Quote: Evil543
              And what do you say to your conscience? Get under the bench I need more?

              Personally, it's easier for me to stand in line.
          2. begemot20091
            begemot20091 20 January 2021 22: 35
            +5
            Now many privileged categories have been combined. By law, a Chernobyl survivor, a veteran of military operations ... Every year he can go to a sanatorium. Come to social protection: everything is in one queue - no vouchers = little - not reached. But still to go, say from Novokuznetsk or Novosibirsk only by train - 4 days. On the plane, no, no, no. Something Aeroflot did not share with social protection even under Golikova.
      2. Evil543
        Evil543 20 January 2021 11: 56
        +4
        Unlike 70-80 year olds, we can still earn. And I can stand in line, I won't break.
        1. yuriy55
          yuriy55 20 January 2021 14: 31
          +5
          Quote: Evil543
          And I can stand in line, I won't break.

          This is why all the anger towards those who, without a queue, crawls into power, in order to then force people to stand in line for evidence for the right ...
          An incurable disease ... No drugs are produced in Russia. There is no treatment or supportive therapy. Physical limitations ... But every year you need to collect certificates and undergo an examination for confirmation of the III group ... What impudence, what cynicism ... What do they want to know? What resolved itself?
    2. major147
      major147 20 January 2021 21: 31
      +4
      Quote: vladimirvn
      Transport tax is not taken.

      They take it from us in the Rostov region. Everything is not enough for them ...
  9. Galleon
    Galleon 20 January 2021 11: 44
    +15
    Russia is 1000 years old, and the attitude towards veterans has always been the same as the author of the article describes. This is how Fedor Fedorovich Ushakov lived, and tens of thousands of veterans and invalids lived like this. There were times even worse for the servicemen, not so long ago, after a big and difficult War, they took out and removed all the disabled out of sight, to the island.
    At the beginning of the XNUMXs, my friend, not a veteran, transferred to Moscow to serve. He lived for a year and a half on the floating barracks, waiting for housing, in winter the hair froze to the pillow. So with him on the floating barracks for about a year lived the Hero of Russia, the commander of the nuclear submarine, who was transferred to the capital, who was also not given the apartment required by the norms. Moreover, even the administration of SamogO, where he wrote complaints, came to this cap to "talk on good terms". Caps are a strong people, in the end they got their way. But, probably, this is not such a frequent positive case.
    Eh, Russia ...
    1. Simargl
      Simargl 20 January 2021 13: 15
      -3
      Quote: Galleon
      after a big and difficult War, they took out and removed all the disabled from their eyes away, to the island
      More?
      1. Galleon
        Galleon 20 January 2021 13: 36
        +8
        Namesake, you did not understand my hint of how after the Great Patriotic War they removed all the crippled front-line soldiers out of sight in 1949? Let’s do this: look for the details yourself, and I’ll show you only one document.

        1. Simargl
          Simargl 20 January 2021 15: 48
          -4
          Quote: Galleon
          Namesake, you did not understand my hint about how after the Great Patriotic War they removed all the crippled front-line soldiers out of sight in 1949?
          As I understand it, you have an overdose of Kuznetsov?
          Well, let's count: amputees (an obvious manifestation in the form of the absence of a limb or several) were but half a million somewhere, and in the same Valaam monastery they were housed about 1000 people. If we estimate that on average there were about the same amount per monastery, then it turns out that they needed (500 / 000 = ...) 1000? But where can we get so many of them?
          I was not going to deny the fact that there was a demand to remove beggars from the street. Who will be given more money? Right! Disabled person. Most of them were among the beggars. Do you think "worked" without the so-called "roof"? So since then, practically nothing has changed in the criminal world!

          And how do you explain the fact that my mother had at least three amputees? Did they let you go to lessons from the islands?
          Believe it or not, disabled people also work for a good state! For example, they collect not very complicated household appliances. Now such production is also established. Even the blind work.
          Do you see many disabled people now? No? People work.

          So do not drive a wave of sewage about "everyone"!
          Quote: Galleon
          removed all disabled out of sight, to the island
          They removed those who could not adapt or led an anti-social lifestyle.
          And not in the sense - they killed, locked up in a concentration camp, but settled in a sanatorium, including on the basis of a monastery, after rehabilitation (or earlier) from which one could leave at will.
  10. Dimide
    Dimide 20 January 2021 12: 00
    +4
    "Motherland will not forget you, but it will not remember" (military folklore)
    1. Evil543
      Evil543 20 January 2021 12: 14
      +3
      Life truth
  11. rocket757
    rocket757 20 January 2021 12: 13
    +6
    Shaw to say, sho to say ... so there is nothing.
    I just want to remember that by the way the state treats veterans and the elderly, one can safely assess the same "servants of the people" and others, who are leading !!!
  12. faiver
    faiver 20 January 2021 12: 30
    +8
    Unfortunately, he himself witnessed how the second person of the financial service of the region told the disabled of the first Chechen war, "I didn't send you there," cabinet rot ...
  13. Owl
    Owl 20 January 2021 12: 45
    +12
    Veterans are a waste and dangerous "material" for this government. One veteran from the Irkutsk region (Markhaev) was put in the State Duma - so he “politely lowered Minister Nurgaliyev” there at parliamentary hour, then began to work in the upper chamber, so he goes against the “line of the herd Matvienko” all the time, he votes against all the time. I saw Markhaev near Grozny in 2000, he performed his tasks and brought all his subordinates back alive. After the war, we largely believe in God and believe in the Truth. Those who "bought", they sold ...
    1. Severok
      Severok 21 January 2021 23: 02
      0
      Exactly. Shake your hand.
  14. saygon66
    saygon66 20 January 2021 13: 06
    +5
    - Isn't it all based on a phenomenon from a past life? "Mass heroism" ...
    - After all, during the Great Patriotic War, nearly 35 million people fought in regular units ... and they fought partisans, and they strained themselves at defense enterprises ... and you can't count them. And often the person sitting on the other side of the desk turned out to be both fought and awarded ... And a policeman or a janitor, a locksmith, a teacher ... Too many went through the war ... what a lie - they all drank ... ledиka!
    - Since those years, it has probably been customary to wear awards on major holidays ... And modesty became almost a duty ... which the later generation of managers did not fail to take advantage of.
    - And among the veterans themselves there is no consensus! Somehow he called a friend to go to the parade - he served, fought, was awarded ... But he refused - they say, all the awards for participation in conflicts within the country.
  15. Kushka
    Kushka 20 January 2021 14: 10
    +8
    Regarding the author's remark "buy crusts".
    I had a history in Ukraine (until 2014).
    Wife's grandfather, born in 1910, sniper, was shot in the face
    in the battles for Bulgaria. I took out a bullet through the nyobo
    famous facial surgeon in Gorky. reference
    about this operation in a military hospital is in the archives of the family.
    Poorly saw, poorly heard, mouth without nyoba, disabled WWII
    1st group for vision. Lived with us in love and care until
    96 years old. So, once a letter comes from ZHEO, what if he does not
    come with the documents 01.01., benefits for housing and communal services will be canceled.
    I took all the papers, a red book with a gold star
    disabled WWII and went. I was told that "this is a document of the USSR"
    and serve them with a trident. I went to the Military Commissariat, they said -
    he fought for this country, this country gave him this document-
    it is valid for life! Then I went to the Prosecutor -
    do we have its own Verkhovna Rada in every SAME? Who canceled
    Soviet documents? Then I am not married, not educated, etc.
    The prosecutor "knocked me down" - you were offended, go to court!
    I went to the Deputy, they called the head of this ZHEU (district
    deputy). She asks what Mr. R. - 10th, I say. Is calling
    to your office - girls, arrange everything as it was. I ask-
    what's the matter?. Answers - these years do not interest us. But 70-80-90
    we check everything. Synchronization of databases of Russia and Ukraine has passed.
    And now it turns out - Ryazan, Penza (conditionally), like Kharkov,
    Lutsk (conditionally) guys came to our city and got married,
    They presented "Afghan" crusts and received benefits. Now we check-
    Kursk military registration and enlistment office - "name (name) was called up, served - in Afghanistan
    has never been, we have not issued a certificate number ........ "
    so we take cases to court for the return of illegally obtained discounts.
    And your grandfather, born in 1910, well, excuse me, my girls overdid it.
  16. evgen1221
    evgen1221 20 January 2021 14: 51
    +4
    Well, on the other hand, singers are regularly rewarded with their mouths at their every request.
    1. major147
      major147 20 January 2021 21: 40
      +4
      Quote: evgen1221
      Well, on the other hand, singers are regularly rewarded with their mouths at their every request.

      There they come up with "awards" among themselves and then "reward" themselves.
  17. dragon_13364
    dragon_13364 20 January 2021 15: 32
    +2
    One question to the author: What about the heroes of the First World War?
    have you forgotten them? or they decided to support the communist tradition and renounce all the heroes of Tsarist Russia ...
    but then the statement about Spiridonov is hypocritical.
  18. tank64rus
    tank64rus 20 January 2021 16: 05
    +7
    We award: officials, artists, friends, businessmen, showmen, deputies, etc. All orders, money, will soon begin or have already begun to distribute estates, the case for the service staff.
    1. major147
      major147 20 January 2021 21: 49
      +5
      Quote: tank64rus
      We award: officials, artists, friends, businessmen, showmen, deputies, etc. All orders, money, will soon begin or have already begun to distribute estates, the case for the service staff.

      After retiring from work in one organization, fate brought me together with a man, an officer-helicopter pilot, who accomplished a real feat. I saw a movie about this Hero. A hero in our understanding, and the title corresponding to his feat, competent people offered him to buy for 1 rubles .......
      He refused.
  19. Galleon
    Galleon 20 January 2021 17: 17
    +7
    Quote: Simargl
    As I understand it, you have an overdose of Kuznetsov?

    Who are you to diagnose me? I haven't made an appointment with you. Who is your Kuznetsov? For myself, I did not raise the topic of disabled front-line soldiers deeply and I cannot discuss it, therefore, instead of details, I showed you only one document. Why are you coming to me with accusations sucked out of my finger that I am pouring mud on someone? Removed the disabled, beggar front-line soldiers from the streets? Were they veterans? Veterans, just young veterans who were unable to return to a peaceful life. An article about attitudes towards veterans, gave an example.
    The topic is difficult. If you want to dig deeper, here's an article I found especially for you. And don't pounce on people as enemies. It's a wise job - to look for enemies.http: //bsk.nios.ru/content/problemy-obespecheniya-invalidov-otechestvennoy-voyny-protezami-v-pervye-poslevoennye-gody-v
    1. Simargl
      Simargl 20 January 2021 22: 03
      -3
      Quote: Galleon
      Who is your Kuznetsov?
      Those. You offer me to "google", but you yourself do not know how to use search engines? Forward to the "mines"! Your pearl, raking everyone under the same size, is very similar to the howl of liberoids, in particular - the false "Valaam notebook" by E.P. Kuznetsova.
      Quote: Galleon
      For myself, I did not raise the topic of disabled front-line soldiers deeply and I cannot discuss it, therefore, instead of details, I showed you only one document.
      It's strange. You cannot discuss, but you do. What's in that document?

      Quote: Galleon
      Why are you coming to me with accusations, sucked out of my finger, that I'm pouring mud on someone?
      You are throwing mud at honest workers who, despite their injuries, have managed to find their place in life; you are throwing mud at the country, which has tried to socialize those who could not do it on their own. And finally, you are playing a lie.

      Quote: Galleon
      Removed the disabled, beggar front-line soldiers from the streets?
      So everyone, or those who were on the streets?

      Quote: Galleon
      Were they veterans?
      They were different people.

      Quote: Galleon
      An article about attitudes towards veterans, gave an example.
      What kind of example is that? What relation? They were taken to a sanatorium-not quite a resort stay, where they were fed, treated, no one forced them to engage in asocial activities or beg. If we are to give an example - then give the source, execution and result, and do not row one size fits all!

      Quote: Galleon
      If you want to dig deeper, here's an article for you.
      Something I did not find in her the pressure of the disabled. After any war, in any country there is a problem of rehabilitation of people, but here such a massacre happened. What do you want to say then?

      Quote: Galleon
      It's a wise thing to do - to look for enemies.
      What kind of enemies? I’m just painful for the lie.
      1. Konnick
        Konnick 22 January 2021 11: 11
        0
        Go to the site Feat of the People or Memory of the People and you will see the award lists for the post-war awards for disabled veterans of the Great Patriotic War. They were awarded medals for Courage and Military Merit, depending on the severity of the injury. And they collected beggars leading an asocial lifestyle from the streets for rehabilitation.
        1. Simargl
          Simargl 22 January 2021 12: 56
          0
          Quote: Konnick
          And they collected from the streets beggars leading an asocial lifestyle for rehabilitation
          Are you talking to me?

          Quote: Simargl
          They removed those who could not adapt or led an anti-social lifestyle.
          And not in the sense - they killed, locked up in a concentration camp, but settled in a sanatorium, including on the basis of a monastery, after rehabilitation (or earlier) from which one could leave at will.
          1. Konnick
            Konnick 22 January 2021 14: 24
            +1
            I just confirm your opinion. Nobody forgot the veterans after the war. At my grandmother's in the village, two invalids were awarded medals for Courage in 46, one lost a leg, the other was shot in the lung. The submission was written by the military enlistment office.
  20. Captain45
    Captain45 20 January 2021 17: 52
    +7
    What is interesting to me is that they do not forget to regularly increase housing and communal services tariffs by 4% every year, and they forget to fulfill the federal law on pension provision for people who have served in uniform in terms of annual indexation by 2%, soon housing and communal services tariffs are not that indexed, they the existing pension will be devoured. But how beautiful it began, at first they cut the pension, but it seemed like they reassured it - "we will add 54% to your 2% every year and will eventually bring it to 100% of the salary." True, it is necessary to wait for these 100% for 23 years, that not every pensioner who has served will live. Last year, 7 people from the department with whom he worked were buried, age from 57 to 68 years old, heart attacks, strokes, oncology, etc. diabetes. About veteran 3p. 62 kopecks I am already silent. Such veterans need a double portion to pay for the apartment. Ugh at you ..... Just please, don't explain under my comment that you need to call Platoshkin and Grudinin for help, and even more so a Berlin bastard. I have a personal dislike for them, "I can do it as much as I can"
  21. An K-s
    An K-s 20 January 2021 19: 08
    0
    My grandfather was not noticed until 1979. And then LI Brezhnev's book "Small Land" was published, and here grandfather was happy.
  22. Was mammoth
    Was mammoth 20 January 2021 22: 10
    +3
    "And how simple it would be: once a person fulfilled an order, and he already has a special sign with the state: he is honored, privileges and remembered after he finds himself in another world. Here he is - a real citizen of the Fatherland."
    I have great respect for the military. Here, just a question - are they the only real citizens of the Fatherland? Or, is there someone else?
    The author was greatly offended by someone. And it looks like the state.
    The question is on the moral side.
    The system of benefits itself, and not only for the military, is immoral. Decent allowance, pension, medical care are needed, not benefits. And, not only to the military, to everyone.
    Who is in the line ahead, the author or a young pregnant woman, is a matter of decency, if you will, honor. You let an old man, a woman, a disabled person pass ahead, and respect will be added.
    Pride.
  23. faterdom
    faterdom 20 January 2021 22: 39
    +2
    Quote: vladimirvn
    Three thousand pays extra to the pension and thanks for that. Transport tax is not taken.

    Three thousand sixty-two rubles (Three-six-two :))) is the so-called replacement of benefits with compensation. About 1700 more are paid in addition to the military pension (32% of the minimum social pension - before it was 5000, now I don't know for sure).
    As for the transport tax, it's at the discretion of the local authorities. In our country, for example, in the Arkhangelsk region it is -980r from the transport tax, that is, for my Largus 102 hp I paid 1570r instead of 2550 last year.
  24. faterdom
    faterdom 20 January 2021 22: 49
    +5
    Quote: Captain45
    But how beautiful it began, at first they cut the pension, but they seemed to reassure me - "we will add 54% to your 2% every year and will eventually bring it to 100% of the salary." True, it is necessary to wait for these 100% for 23 years, that not every pensioner who has served will live.

    Not certainly in that way. Not up to 100% of the salary.
    You will laugh, but our "two lawyers - Sobchakovich" have invented something different: in 23 years we must reach 100% of the amount of pensions under the "Law on Pensions for Servicemen and Equivalent ..."
    That is, according to the Law, pensions initially have a legal size, but the Guarantor and the Commander-in-Chief of ours annually with his brightest Decree cuts what is required by the Law. The shortening factor is called ..
    Because, the Law, he, apparently, is not the Law, or there, he does not like why, therefore - here you have a Decree, serving ... Instead of the Law. And so even these bashful 2% have stopped increasing in recent years, frozen at about 72% of the pension "under the Law"!
    This is the power of lawyers! Their Law, whatever they want, they will do with it. The main thing is to shove God with the Constitution, in half with zeroing, and then you can turn the Laws back and forth ... Why not?
    After all, the people approve on the stumps!
    1. Captain45
      Captain45 21 January 2021 10: 42
      +3
      Quote: faterdom
      And so even these bashful 2% have stopped increasing in recent years, frozen at about 72% of the pension "under the Law"!

      I asked for a certificate from the pension last year, so 68,8% was written there.
      1. faterdom
        faterdom 21 January 2021 16: 55
        +2
        Approved by the Federation Council and sent for signature to the President of the Russian Federation, draft law No. 18-2020, adopted by the State Duma on November 1027752, 7 (introduced by the Government of the Russian Federation), provides for the preservation of the reduction coefficient in the "military pension" at 2021 percent in 73,68.
  25. nikvic46
    nikvic46 21 January 2021 06: 44
    +1
    You can't write everything down in the laws, but it must be done. People are all different. One, returning from a war, can hit the military commissar's desk with his fist. The other is not. And now they are in different situations, and this is everywhere, from free prescriptions to receiving apartments. And this has been going on since time immemorial. Or flattery, or a fist in the chest.
  26. AB
    AB 21 January 2021 16: 29
    +1
    For a long time now I have no words about the state, only interjections have remained ...
  27. Dmitriy444
    Dmitriy444 21 January 2021 16: 51
    +2
    "instructed Deputy Prime Minister Tatyana Golikova" - this official is a professional in reduction and optimization. Get ready. WBD needs one party of its own, an organization, in order not to ask, but to demand. Real, alive. What is there now? Local public veteran organizations, headed by former generals and political officers, who in 90% of cases received the title of veteran, because they stood nearby. These are the chairmen and leaders who hang the medals for the anniversary, and so little help is provided to themselves and those close to them, and not to those who really need it. After all, not only senior officers fought, but also officers, warrant officers and conscripts. And it is necessary to start helping with the soldiers of veterans, who today, now need help, improve their lives. conditions, expensive medical services, medicines.
    1. Severok
      Severok 21 January 2021 22: 55
      0
      So that's why she and Golikova, will leave anyone without pants! ))
  28. nikolaj1703
    nikolaj1703 21 January 2021 18: 11
    +2
    Afghan, Chechnya are famous wars. And how many unknown wars: Angola, Cuba, Somalia, Egypt and many more conflicts that no one will know about for a long time.
  29. Alexfly
    Alexfly 21 January 2021 18: 16
    0
    The company commander used to say, at one time: "Forward the eagles, the Motherland will not forget you !!" And then so, to the side, into the mustache: "She just will never remember us ..." This bike remained in her brain for the rest of her life, although I still love the Motherland ...
    1. Severok
      Severok 21 January 2021 22: 54
      0
      As one old "hydromayor" used to say - "She went to *****, such a Motherland!" After 15 years of service, I began to understand this expression, previously I just laughed.
  30. fiberboard
    fiberboard 21 January 2021 19: 54
    +1
    Now they are organizing a movement-Veterans for social justice. Those who are in the State Duma: Shamanov, Klintsevich, say they are doing nothing. In Zen infa. I don’t know about the awards, they came from a business trip, they asked for information on the most distinguished ones from a higher headquarters. The chief financial officer almost did not have enough blow, he ran screaming that we had enough money. The deputy for educational work also said that there was no one to reward, he gathered and sent on a business trip all the rabble from the unit, they would perform such deeds, it is still not worth rewarding them. And in the unit there are a lot of really worthy people who don't go anywhere, but without various violations. Comrade three times to the Order of Courage was presented, Zhirik personally promised to break through. And laughter and sin. Spit I say.
  31. stas-xnumx
    stas-xnumx 21 January 2021 20: 59
    +3
    The article is serious, very true from and to ... Veterans of all wars are treated disgustingly, and from that it is disgusting at heart, once a year to remember different wars and everything, until next year, who will live ...
  32. Severok
    Severok 21 January 2021 22: 52
    +2
    Here the question really arises: who are these creatures in human form, on which it depends whether the heroes will be given their due or not ??? Immediately, a categorical one arises: the son / daughter of an influential dad / mom, who has sat down from an early age in the power to decide the fate of people, who have never passed through a gunpowder. The bureaucrats, about whom during this time they said "nettle seed", weeds, that is. But in fact - stupid, soulless, shameless numbers in high positions, fulfilling the working day and looking into their own selfish interest.

    If there are standing people in officials, such as the mayor of Yakutsk, who resigned, it is unfortunately not a rule for Russia, but an exception, such as a platinum nugget in geology.
  33. Revival
    Revival 22 January 2021 04: 11
    +1
    "And we are silent." ...
    Hope, hope
  34. Evgeny Kelpsh
    Evgeny Kelpsh 22 January 2021 22: 38
    0
    Combat veteran,
    Fleeting Fortune Soldier,
    It's very difficult to stay alive for so long
    And wander into the void at random ...
    Commissioned in 2007, I'm living out my only life. Painfully.
  35. Kunduz
    Kunduz 22 January 2021 23: 27
    0
    Salam, bacha! Nobody will do anything for us! Moreover, this power. They even manage to tyrit what they have. And the memory of the Afghan war as well. As long as you have the strength, you must try to do something yourself for a decent life. I think that none of the veterans likes to go to bureaucrats and ask for what is often just required for you by existing laws. As long as there are forces ... And them, ... uk! less and less! To be honest, I would like to retire at least at 60! A worthy veteran's pension! And treated for free! But damn dreams, dreams ...
    1. Evgeny Nikolaevich S.
      Evgeny Nikolaevich S. 23 January 2021 13: 05
      0
      Salam in half! Health to you and your loved ones!
  36. Evgeny Nikolaevich S.
    Evgeny Nikolaevich S. 23 January 2021 12: 43
    0
    Well, I don’t know, brothers. It doesn't really matter to me what and how officials think of me. Yes, an allowance of 3067 rubles. not impressive. But I never hoped for them. It's hard for me to judge this money. I have been shell-shocked at least three times, but I have no special disorders, except for a memory disorder. I went into the army of my own free will. In 1987, I was expelled from the Lugansk Machine Institute. The dean of my faculty accepted me as a laboratory assistant at the Department of Mechanical Engineering Technology. And from there I was sent to the military registration and enlistment office to work in the draft board. So I wrote out a summons for myself. These are the cases in life.
    Served urgently, recovered at the institute, graduated in 1993. And by that time, engineers were no longer needed by anyone. As a result, there was a choice, in bandits with meat, in cops werewolf, and in the army as a contract soldier. So I chose the army. Now I am a military pensioner. WBD. I have the honor!
  37. UltraRed
    UltraRed 24 January 2021 23: 07
    0
    dedication
    veterans of local wars

    I was not killed
    Turned out to be alive
    But now in this world,
    - He became forever a stranger.
    I won't tell you this
    Try to forget
    That I only lived there
    It remains here - to survive.

    Live in peace
    Before my grandson’s wedding,
    Not know what is
    Pain, death and separation.
    But night and day
    I see a slope
    Where lay under fire
    Our second battalion.

    Inaccessible spring
    I don't need flowers
    In memory of dreams
    Like the severity of the shackles.
    Bends the heart in an arc
    The silence of the nights
    I can’t forget
    Non-friends.

    From what is around
    Better back,
    From numb hands
    Pick up a machine ..........
  38. Andycomm
    Andycomm 26 January 2021 14: 30
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    Both grandfathers constantly wore only Stripes, they wore everything combat as if not twice a year. I don’t remember that at least once they swore, like, "I, my blood, and you tell me ...!", And they simply disdained to download their "veteran" rights.
    At least in this he went to them
  39. Pavel Shirshov
    Pavel Shirshov April 13 2021 11: 02
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    It is because of this attitude towards veterans, and the authorities (first of all), and people, the movement "Veterans of military actions for justice" appeared.