EU concerned about Russia's withdrawal from the Open Skies treaty

The European Union is concerned about Russia's withdrawal from the Open Skies Treaty. According to the EU press service, Russia's withdrawal from the Don "will damage the security of Europe."

Brussels expressed the hope that Russia will reconsider its decision and will not withdraw from the "open skies" treaty, since the OON is "a key element of arms control."

It will undermine confidence-building efforts and damage European security (...) this agreement is a key element of the arms control architecture and a vital confidence and security building measure

- declared in Europe.

In turn, NATO accused Russia of not fulfilling its obligations under the treaty, which led to the withdrawal.

Russia's selective adherence to its obligations under the OST has for some time undermined the contribution of this important treaty to security and stability in the Euro-Atlantic region.

- said NATO spokesman Pierce Kazalet.

Recall that on Friday the Russian Foreign Ministry announced the start of domestic procedures for Russia's withdrawal from the "open skies" treaty. The decision to withdraw from the treaty was made after the European countries refused to give a guarantee not to transfer the information they received during flights over Russian territory to the United States, which withdrew from the treaty at the end of November 2020.

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[Proton]

Please send all these concerns by registered mail to Washington. Don't forget to apologize for bothering you.

[Yang yangov]

I think with the exit of Russia from the Don. for the EU, nothing will change .. The EU can continue to inspect its own countries) inspect each other. but if it is said seriously and there is nothing to add.

- "" The Europeans tell us: let the US leave, but you don't. I say: "Hello, this is a good movie. You are all NATO members, so you will fly, transmit all this information to the Americans, and we cannot do this, because we will remain in this treaty. So let's not play the fool, but let's talk honestly with each other, "said Vladimir Putin."

[krot]

and harm the security of Europe

In my opinion, the security of Russia is more important to us, not Europe)

[marchcat]

In general, the EU should think about: Russia's withdrawal from the Don, speaks of a complete distrust of the European Union, in terms of the secrecy of the information received.

[fruc]

The European Union is concerned about Russia's withdrawal from the Open Skies Treaty. According to the EU press service, Russia's withdrawal from the Don "will damage the security of Europe."

When Trump withdrew from DON, did the EU forget to worry ?. Clowns.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: frruc

When Trump withdrew from DON, did the EU forget to worry ?. Clowns.

Pretend to be rubber products, shorter hoses! They say the States came out, but they are not in Europe and do no harm to this very Europe. Sharing information is how they are friends. And Russia comes out in response, so it will not allow inspectors to visit, and this is bad for them ...
So we are again to blame for everything ... And they are "in white"

[Vladimir Mashkov]

Quote: Starover_Z

So we are again to blame for everything ... And they are "in white"

Totally agree with you! The usual ordinary brazen Western two-faced trick: the United States left the Don, which actually ruined it, and it is announced that Russia is destroying the Don, which, as it turns out, according to the "honest" NATO, did not comply with it, violated it!

[Jaromir]

Quote: frruc

When Trump withdrew from DON, did the EU forget to worry ?. Clowns.

No, they are not clowns, they are just "LGBT supporters"

[major147]

Quote: marchcat

Russia's withdrawal from the Don, speaks of complete distrust of the European Union, in terms of the secrecy of the information received.

And what confidence can there be in their words after so many "scams" on their part !? And they don't want to sign a piece of paper ...

[Insurgent]

Quote: Proton

Please send all these concerns by registered mail to Washington. Don't forget to apologize for bothering you.

Yes, somehow it is not noticeable "European concern"to the United States, which directly broke the preexisting treaty ...

[ioan-e]

Quote: Insurgent

Quote: Proton

Please send all these concerns by registered mail to Washington. Don't forget to apologize for bothering you.

Yes, somehow it is not noticeable "European concern"to the United States, which directly broke the preexisting treaty ...

How can you bark at the owner? So it won't take long to get a boot in the face.

[military_cat]

Moscow. 22nd of May. INTERFAX.RU - Foreign ministries of 10 EU countries in a joint statement on Friday expressed regret at the announcement of the United States to withdraw from the Open Skies Treaty.

[ioan-e]

Quote: military_cat

Moscow. 22nd of May. INTERFAX.RU - Foreign ministries of 10 EU countries in a joint statement on Friday expressed regret at the announcement of the United States to withdraw from the Open Skies Treaty.

But no one forbade whining

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Proton

Please send all these concerns by registered mail to Washington. ...

Those. to the "World League for Sexual Reform"?

[iturup]

Quote: Proton

Please send all these concerns by registered mail to Washington. Don't forget to apologize for bothering you.

And to pay a couple of million for the parcel))))) Are the jackals moving? And what to do, who is now easy. Enough already over Russia to scoff and use her kindness. This is only the beginning of the "gentlemen."

[Cowbra]

Yes, actually it was predictable to nausea. Agreements of this kind are precisely anti-Russian. Initially, there was no place for Russia's interests there, but even now, when the United States left the DON and the rest of NATO refused not to drain the information to the States, even officially (unofficially - one dog, the slaves would be dumped) - Russia is still to blame for them. It was high time to get out of there.

[paul3390]

Quote: Cowbra

It was high time to get out of there.

Another thing is interesting - when will we finally begin to leave PACE and other idiotic European institutions? There, after all, they only throw mud at us for our own money .. Or is there no way to cover the type of business trips of the servants of the people to take a walk in Europe?

[semenov]

Quote: paul3390

Or not to cover the type of business trips of servants of the people for a walk in Europe?

Well ... Servants of the people are all worried about security and transparency, but you took them out into the open ...

[Lipchanin]

The decision to withdraw from the treaty was made after the European countries refused to give a guarantee not to transfer information received by them during flights over Russian territory to the United States.

How not to transfer this?
Yes, they will take it away anyway

[cniza]

This was the whole calculation of the "wise" ones ...

[iturup]

Quote: cniza

This was the whole calculation of the "wise" ones ...

To the point Victor !!!

[Ros 56]

Responding to EU concerns.

[Lech from Android.]

Delicious however.

[iturup]

Quote: Lech from Android.

Delicious however.

Well, if for the majority in Russia, then it will look like this .. !!!!

[Mykhalych]

We were worried that there would be nothing to report overseas. The owner will scold.

[Poetry]

"We, he says, are gentlemen. We are accustomed to take our word for it."
Then it flooded my suit! ..
For some reason, all these naive European people want to see some kind of imbeciles in us. Why don't they run to Big Brother?

[krops777]

For some reason, all these naive European people want to see some kind of imbeciles in us.

This is the trouble that they put themselves higher in position (fascism flourishes there to one degree or another) and do not consider it necessary to negotiate with us, well, as they say, get your signature and express further concern.

[Poetry]

About the same as according to Kipling: "we are British, noble and beautiful, and everyone else is Mowgli."

[tralflot1832]

Schaz, we run back, as much as our hair is back. All pritenzii to the country where the "Blue Oyster" won! We will somehow manage with the Bashirovs and Petrovs.

[Gardamir]

All claims to the country where "Blue Oyster" won

https://www.tripadvisor.ru/Attraction_Review-g298507-d3321991-Reviews-The_Blue_Oyster_Bar-St_Petersburg_Northwestern_District.html

[tralflot1832]

As if it is not clear? Did you watch the police academy? At first the Americans laughed, but now there is one parent and two. We do not need to strive for such a democratic society, it was not for nothing that the Constitution was amended in the summer.

[Gardamir]

We do not need to strive for such a democratic society

Here I agree with you. I just forgot this film, typed in the search for what kind of oysters, I was given this. So, unfortunately, we also have this.
As for the article. Personally, I was worried that we did not react in any way to the exit of the United States from the open sky. Now I am satisfied with the reaction of the President of Russia.

[tralflot1832]

So, last year, he said with good intonation: “What are you taking us for fools!” It became clear to everyone that we would leave the DON, but we would mock our partners!

[Insurgent]

Quote: tralflot1832

Did you watch the police academy?

By the way, actress Marion Ramsey (May 10, 1947 - January 7, 2021) died in the USA, playing one of the roles in this film.

[Thrifty]

Well, yes, they used to spy on us with our permission, from our same plane, but now there is such a free opportunity to count all the tanks near Rostov-on-Don "before their invasion of the Ukrainian army." covered with a basin. ..rusty

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: Thrifty

, and now such a free opportunity to count all the tanks near Rostov-on-Don "before their invasion of the Ukrainian-Roin" is covered with a basin. ..rusty

And I did not understand a fig. What kind of contract? By the way, hundreds of tanks were burnt at Grozny.

[nnm]

Colleague, I didn't quite understand your passage about hundreds of tanks. As far as I remember, the first assault - 49 tanks were lost (by 26.3) + 5 tanks from March to August, and in the second company - much less, since they did not massively pull equipment into the cities. Perhaps you meant not only tanks, but also infantry fighting vehicles, armored personnel carriers.
DON:
https://ru.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%94%D0%BE%D0%B3%D0%BE%D0%B2%D0%BE%D1%80_%D0%BF%D0%BE_%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%BA%D1%80%D1%8B%D1%82%D0%BE%D0%BC%D1%83_%D0%BD%D0%B5%D0%B1%D1%83

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: nnm

As far as I remember, the first assault - 49 tanks were lost,

This is zvizdezh. Read Alik Zaripov.

[nnm]

Colleague, with all due respect to you and the Hero, I must admit that he was not in the position to be able to assess the losses of the entire group. Objectively. The brigade officer by no means can know the number of cumulative losses. I will definitely read his memoirs. Thanks for the tip
In response, I can recommend, probably, the most honest description of the war from the officer-operator of the Siberian makhra - Mokhov "I was in this war."

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: nnm

that he was not in the position to be able to assess the losses of the entire group.

He is a Hero of Russia. Lost his sight at Pervomaisk. I respect his opinion.

[nnm]

I know and I will repeat myself - great respect for the Hero. But I'm writing about something else - due to the limited access to information by the brigade officer's official powers, he physically cannot own data on the combined losses of the group. Not because he is good or bad, but because this information is not available to him due to his position. Look at the calculation of the forces and means of the grouping in the first Chechen one. It was a corps-scale grouping. There were not many more than 200 tanks in total. I could be wrong in the numbers, but not much. Now I will look for more accurate information.
Supplemented. Found: https://topwar.ru/26962-tanki-v-chechenskoy-voyne.html

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: nnm

Now I will look for more accurate information.

But where exactly? As Zaripov wrote, in a couple of months, 15 thousand people were killed. And the official media are silent.

[nnm]

Sorry, but the entire grouping at the first Chechen during the assault was about 15 thousand people. A little later, on duty, he had access to data on losses. And I can say that the official figure of 6 dead and wounded (!!!) is most likely true.

[Turist1996]

Mokhova read a work that was serious and emotionally difficult.
I also liked The City in 2 parts by Andrey Zagortsev. Written with horrible punctuation errors, but the gist is extremely interesting.

[major147]

Quote: nnm

the most honest description of the war from the officer-operator of the Siberian makhra - Mokhov "I was in this war."

Vyacheslav Mironov?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: major147

Vyacheslav Mironov?

Yes, including.

[nnm]

Yes of course. I apologize. V.Mironov

[Turist1996]

Yes, that's right, Mironov. I reacted to the title of the work, but forgot the author's surname, and confirmed it automatically.

[dmmyak40]

Do not hesitate, speak openly how many: 200, 800, 4 tanks? This is also hundreds? I wonder why so throw words?

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: dmmyak40

Do not hesitate, speak openly how many: 200, 800, 4 tanks? This is also hundreds? I wonder why so throw words

I am speaking openly. There was a tank graveyard near Grozny.

[lucul]

I am speaking openly. There was a tank graveyard near Grozny.

Even then, oppas, they would not have passed by such a tasty morsel for propaganda, but they would have taken a picture and posted it on the net. And the disposal of hundreds of tanks is simply impossible to hide - witnesses would have remained anyway.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: lucul

but they would definitely take a picture and put it on the network.

What is the network in the 90s? Are you ready?

[dmmyak40]

You said:

And I did not understand a fig. What kind of contract? By the way, hundreds of tanks were burnt at Grozny.

And now hundreds have turned into a graveyard. Lord sovramshi? Or a gentleman - a gentleman: wanted - gave the word, wanted - took?

[major147]

Quote: Mordvin 3

There was a tank cemetery near Grozny.

In which place? I've been there a lot. I saw units in different places.

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: major147

In which place?

To the right of Grozny. On the way to Rostov. They were then quickly dragged away.

[bk316]

There was a tank cemetery near Grozny.

5 tanks are also a graveyard ...
and 100 cemetery .....
Long ago I noticed that people with gaps in education have everything over 100 - a million.

[tralflot1832]

A small amendment, they spied from their plane. All this cheese boron began after we upgraded our plane to Tu-204 and immediately began to press us for it, the Americans did not allow it to fly in their skies, so they got it. commercial satellite count.

[Lech from Android.]

Brussels expressed hope

Like Russian fuckers ...
The West does not abandon its attempts to warm us up like a gentleman.

[evgen1221]

And apparently there are no claims to the initiator of the exit and will never be. Well, since it will not be from you and will not lose.

[comradChe]

Two-faced jackals. However, everything is as always.

[Doccor18]

This will undermine confidence-building efforts and damage Europe's security (...)

What confidence, don't tell the barrel of a tank ...

[bairat]

I read why the Yankees left the DON.
1. They were not allowed to fly over Abkhazia and South Ossetia, such as independent states, negotiate yourself.
2. The refueling airfield was located in the Crimea (this is level 80 trolling))))
3. Well, they didn't let me fly over Kaliningrad.

[tralflot1832]

Tu 204 is not certified for flying over the USA, fly speak on your Tu154, from here starry striped fish soup grows. And the Crimea is too much for them, they do not like when their commands are not fulfilled. Well, just like children, they went to play in their sandbox.

[dmmyak40]

European "partners" refused to give written guarantees that the information they received on the OST will not be transferred to the United States. And now they are "surprised". DB.

[Prisoner]

Before you had to worry. When the United States went out, no one worried, and then diseases began to fuss. "It's too late to drink Borjomi when the kidneys have fallen off." (from)

[1536]

It is necessary to restore the work of the Russian radio-electronic center in Lourdes in Cuba. This will restore equality in obtaining information about the United States and its military activity. And never again leave from there, brushing aside all the accusations of the high cost and unjustifiedness of such a step on the part of various "critics" inside the country. This step is necessary, but if you play it honestly ...
The Americans would never have abandoned additional means of control over the enemy and intelligence against Russia if it had not been possible to control these processes from the territory of neighboring hostile countries, whose governments are ready to do anything to inflict irreparable damage on our state and people. For Americans, it is both cheaper, and therefore more profitable, and much more accurate than flying on routes.

[Kote Pan Kokhanka]

Quote: 1536

It is necessary to restore the work of the Russian radio-electronic center in Lourdes in Cuba.

They won't let us go there, the Chinese have settled down there.

[2 Level Advisor]

It is necessary. Has Cuba already allowed it? Is she ready to quarrel with the USA and its satellites again tough because of us? besides, that it has been actively reconciled for the last 10 years, diplomatic relations have been restored, Obama was on a visit .. trade turnover with us 280 million a year, with the USA 600 and the flow of money from Gaster in the USA to Cuba, as before from Russia to Ukraine .. I strongly doubt that they are waiting for us in Lourdes ..
https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D1%83%D0%B1%D0%B8%D0%BD%D1%81%D0%BA%D0%B0%D1%8F_%D0%BE%D1%82%D1%82%D0%B5%D0%BF%D0%B5%D0%BB%D1%8C

[major147]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

Is she ready to quarrel with the USA and its satellites again tough because of us?

The other day they were again declared "sponsors of terrorists"! So put up after that. Cuba's readiness to cooperate with the Russian Federation will depend on "the fullness of the glass poured."

[Vinnibuh]

Spotted. And especially you are right about the "glass".

[ximkim]

Why this treaty at all ?! If NATO is already breathing near the borders of the Russian Federation, so there will be no guarantees.

[cniza]

Brussels expressed the hope that Russia will reconsider its decision and will not withdraw from the "open skies" treaty, since the OON is "a key element of arms control."

Don't wait, look elsewhere ...

[aszzz888]

The European Union is concerned about Russia's withdrawal from the Open Skies Treaty. As stated in the press service of the EU, Russia's withdrawal from the Don "will harm the security of Europe."

And to hell with you. But by and large, ask your owners why such an outcome.

[cniza]

Quote: aszzz888

But by and large, ask your owners why such an outcome.

The owner forbade asking ...

[rocket757]

Everything is logical ... we will take care of ourselves!
Hi

[cniza]

Good time!

Sometimes I am amazed at their determination to regard us as stupid people ...

[rocket757]

They can count in different ways, but here are the actions, the chorus of their voices, in unison with their big brother because of the okey.
So it was, is and will be.

[cniza]

Unfortunately, this will continue as long as the US is strong ...

[rotmistr60]

Russia's withdrawal from the Don "will harm the security of Europe."

We would say directly that the damage will be caused to NATO by the lack of additional information. They are worried about the exit, but they did not give guarantees that they would not share information with the United States who had withdrawn from the treaty unilaterally. The most cunning or what? How they miss Gorbachev with EBN today.

[rocket757]

This will undermine confidence-building efforts and damage European security

So geyrope should be .... you will express your concern to your boss.

[cniza]

They will miss flying over Russia ...

[rocket757]

This, of course, was more of a symbolic action, but it was better this way than nothing.

[cniza]

Soon everything will start to change rapidly, we are on the verge of a big redistribution ...

[rocket757]

Yes, how many limits can you create, thresholds ???
Continuous shortages .... space, food, water, energy and more on the list !!!

[arhPavel]

Another portion "You don't understand, this is different"

Let them fly and monitor themselves, transmit data to each other. The process is important for them, but the result is for us.
This shows either how stupid they think we are.
Or how much they don't care about our opinion.

[Zaurbek]

Well, if the United States withdrew from the treaty, then it should at least be revised.

[agond]

With the constant growth in the number of satellites, the open skies treaty became irrelevant and the United States understood this.

[aleks700]

Well done! Without a twinge of conscience.

[iturup]

Watching all this happening, I always remember Pushkin, our Alexander Sergeevich! And the son of our difficult mistakes and the genius of enlightenment spirit!
And as if I wrote about the EU now ..

[RVAPatriot]

Before that, no violations were noticed, but then suddenly they remembered something like that ... As usual, blame Russia for what they themselves were doing

[voronin]

Europe's selectivity about concerns is surprising.

[Metallurg_2]

It is high time for Russia to withdraw from all unequal treaties concluded under a popularly elected drunk, and in the first years after his departure. And also from all international organizations where Russia does not have the right of a decisive or blocking vote.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Europe is concerned ... They don't want bread and butter, they will eat horseradish with mustard.

[Gennady Fomkin]

Wai-wai. How all concerned. Like you are the only one and carry it out, and fuck that the United States left it for almost a year now.

 

Britain expressed disappointment with Russia's decision to withdraw from the Open Skies Treaty (OST) and urged the country to reconsider this decision. This was announced on Friday, January 15, by a representative of the British Foreign Office.

As explained in the department, the agreement allows to ensure European security and helps to increase the level of transparency in military activities. This, according to the interlocutor, strengthens trust between states.

“The United Kingdom is disappointed with Russia's decision to begin implementation of the procedures necessary to withdraw from the Open Skies Treaty after prolonged non-compliance with its terms. The United Kingdom calls on Russia to reconsider this decision, to return to full compliance with the treaty and to interact constructively with its other participants, ”the British Foreign Office TASS reports.

The German diplomatic service added that they also regret the withdrawal of the Russian Federation from the Don and called it a blow to the arms control system, stressing that Russia's initiative plays an important role in relations with the countries of the northern hemisphere.

[mark_rod]

This is from the series "What for us?"

[Jaromir]

EU concerned about Russia's withdrawal from the Open Skies treaty

You should have worried earlier. Now it's already "late to rush"

[Jaromir]

NATO accused Russia of not fulfilling its obligations under the treaty, which led to the withdrawal.

It would be surprising if NATO didn't say such nonsense.

[zwlad]

Well, well, clean up now gentlemen of NATO. I am glad that the mistakes made by the previous leaders of the Russian Federation are slowly but surely being corrected.

[aleks700]

Have you expressed the hope that the United States will return to the treaty?